Barbados Goes on Partial LOCKDOWN

Prime Minister Mia Mottley  advised the country tonight that Barbados will impose a curfew from 8PM to 6AM starting on Saturday 28 March 2020  until 14 April 2020. On a personal note the Prime Minister also shared she will be MIA for a while because her medical team advised her to undergo a medical procedure this coming weekend. Minister of Education Santia Bradshaw will act as prime minister. The blogmaster wishes her well.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @ac
    “Govt owes Mariposa money which was unilaterally taken from me”
    gather your powerful observation skills failed you here? Even though I warned both you and alvin cummins when you were touting GoB paper products. Surely Chris will cover your loss?

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  • I know of a company that sells a similar mask use in hospitals KN95
    Ptl i u are interested i can post it here or u can give relevant info

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  • @ John March 31, 2020 12:23 PM

    No thanks!!!!!

    I’ll use my ↓ key for this on as well.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    “Why r u baited by this man’s insanity?”

    @ dPd

    I’m going to use the ↓ key when it comes to that guy.

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  • March 31, 2020 2:37 PM

    @ac
    “Govt owes Mariposa money which was unilaterally taken from me”
    gather your powerful observation skills failed you here? Even though I warned both you and alvin cummins when you were touting GoB paper products. Surely Chris will cover your loss?

    Northern observer
    Maybe mariposa used her humanitarian skills similar to those that this govt is using to get barbados through the corona problems

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Mariposa March 31, 2020 2:53 PM
    Yes, please post.

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  • Lawd it has gone from more than 50 masks to exactly 50. I repeat, not one RH mask or pair of gloves the lady bought. In here must be the annex to Jenkins.

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  • “Lawd it has gone from more than 50 masks to exactly 50. I repeat, not one RH mask or pair of gloves the lady bought. In here must be the annex to Jenkins.”

    @ Enuff

    Aren’t the words her fan club’s president somewhat appropriate here?

    “Do you know what she drinks? How is security at Jenkins? It is a human right abuse not to get her proper treatment.”

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  • NO NO logic flawed

    I note you have avoided some larger gatherings….one of the largest early in the calendar year is the Daytona 500 and associated races, the two PGA events held in Fla (third was cancelled) and Bike week which was held in early March.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Virus came from China.

    How many Chinese are interested in stock car racing or golf compared with Chinese New Year?

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  • Besides, Tiger woods is from Thailand, not mainland China

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    Someone just sent me this:

    Embassy of the People’s Republic of China in Barbados is at Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Bridgetown.
    March 29 at 3:25 PM · Bridgetown ·
    #HandInHandWeStand

    China Donate Medical Supplies to QEH

    A batch of medical supplies donated by the Government of the People’s Republic of China, valuing more than BD$160,000, has arrived in Barbados and been handed over to Queen Elizabeth Hospital (QEH). The medical supplies, including a ventilator, two infant incubators, two monitors, one electrocardiograph, one cardiac defibrillator and surgical masks, medical goggles, surgical gloves, etc.,are desperately needed for Barbados in the fight against COVID-19 virus.

    Major infectious disease is the enemy of all. The COVID-19 outbreak is spreading worldwide, posing enormous threat to life and health and bringing formidable challenge to global public health security. Under the strong leadership of President Xi Jinping, the Chinese people have obtained great success in the war against COVID-19 virus. Just as President Xi Jinping remarked at the recent Extraordinary G20 Leaders’ Summit on COVID-19, “guided by the vision of building a community with a shared future for mankind, China will be more than ready to share its good practices, conduct joint research and development of drugs and vaccines, and provide assistance where we can to countries hit by the growing outbreak.”

    At the most difficult moment in its fight against the outbreak, China received firm solidarity and support from Barbados government and people which was reflected in the letter Prime Minister Mia Mottley wrote to President Xi Jinping. Such expressions of friendship will always be remembered and cherished by the Chinese people.

    This is a virus that respects no borders, no races. In the time of Barbados government and people are making great efforts to contain the spread of the virus, Chinese government and people will render firm support and do what we can to help Barbados in the fight against COVID-19, including more medical supplies among experience and knowledge sharing in the epidemic prevention and treatment. The Chinese people are standing side by side with the people of Barbados in this crucial moment, and we truly believe that with the great courage, Barbados government and people will defeat the COVID-19 virus soon.

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  • NorthernObserver
    March 31, 2020 2:27 PM

    @John
    by the time this pandemic has waned, you will have examined so many theories, one of them has to ‘righter’ than others?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Only one major theory advanced!!

    Spread is from close contact at street parades.

    Just looked at trying to explain spread from street parades to older folk, suggested it is through their children and grand children.

    Been fitting known facts using the data available which no one seems to be doing.

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  • Artax March 31, 2020 4:10 PM

    “Lawd it has gone from more than 50 masks to exactly 50. I repeat, not one RH mask or pair of gloves the lady bought. In here must be the annex to Jenkins

    xxxccxccccxccccccccccccc

    Wait bosy i was expecting to hear your noise on the issue
    Like u always never to disappoint
    xxxcccxxcccccccccvvvv”
    So what is your problem u want me to give all of my property to Mia
    Well thank God on this issue there is no law written(yet) that entilties govt to become owners of peoples personnel essentials in times of health crisis
    Be it one or 21
    Bro not entitlement rights to force mari to give up one shit to govt
    Back off negro and go mind yuh own business
    What is mine is mine and have every god dam right to share with whoever i dam pleases
    You and others who are stomping up and down BU corridors like ram goat needs to get a life or better yet help govt get their prioritise in standing orders
    I dont rice at any nobody therefore mariposa owes no one a dam thing
    Now get a stepping and leave me alone
    Yuh dirty yardfowl

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    “The 2nd batch of medical supplies donated by the Government of the People’s Republic of China to Barbados is ON THE WAY.

    Surgical Face Masks–5000 pieces
    KN95 Respirators–4000 pieces
    Surgical Protective Gloves– 4000 pieces
    Medical Protective Gowns–3500 pieces
    Medical Protective Goggles–3500 pieces

    The shipment is being carried by DHL through its Air Express Service.”

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  • Why are people harassing Mariposa? She is right. Look out for self. To besides, the masks she probably bought are those cheap surgical masks. I am doubtful if pharmacies in Barbados would stock the more expensive N95 masks, which is what front line workers would need. I have three N95 from the Sars crisis, but only one is still sterilized (in its original cellophane wrapper). I don’t use them and instead use the cloth ones I bought years ago in Viet Nam. I use latex gloves for opening doors and pumping gas, etc. I always keep latex gloves in the bathrooms and kitchen and laundry room. This morning I went and got a box of 100 vinyl ones to keep in the car. Only one store in Ottawa had some……Home Hardware. Costco, Shoppers, Jean Coutu, etc., all sold out.
    My neighbour down the street told me last night he was looking all over for gloves to take to his mother at the Nursing Home as they were running out. I told him about the supply at HH and he went and got a couple boxes for her and some for himself.
    I find the latex fits snugly and I use them for chopping onions, hot peppers and cleaning fish and removing chicken fat.
    A hospital that does not have medicine will hardly have stocked PPE.
    Mariposa girl, keep your supplies. They say you are not smart, but you know what Bajans say: too smart died at one smart door.

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  • @ PLT

    All that at a value of US$80000? Wow.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    In the US doctors and nurses are being fired if they talk about the lack of facemasks or other protective equipment.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/hospitals-tell-doctors-they-ll-be-fired-if-they-talk-to-press

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  • @ PLT March 31, 2020 4:37 PM

    I suggest you temper your euphoria. Equipment sent to Spain and Italy by China ( was sub-standard) did not work.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @ac
    u mek me laff…..u spend an entire morning, and a continuance of prior days, not boasting mind ya, about your powerful observational skills, and now like a racing car driver, you switching gears coming out of the bend, to humanitarian skills, the said skills other are criticizing you for, relevant to ‘preservation of self’. Anyhow your main objective is to create negative opinions of the GoB (only when the D’s aint governing) and on that you are at least relentless.

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  • @ peterlawrencethompson March 31, 2020 4:37 PM

    Hungary is in the process of abolishing democracy after the parliament has passed a kind of empowerment act that delegates legislation to the government.

    Fortunately, we do not need this in Barbados at all, because our Prime Minister is a political genius: since she has made all parliamentarians into ministers or something similar, the government and the legislature are one. Barbados has thus been following the principle of the unity of powers since May 2018. We therefore do not need an empowerment act at all, because we already live in a one-party state without separation of powers. Even the Chinese admire us for this.

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  • To be continued:

    I wonder why PLT is here praising the “generosity” of Chinese Communists with medical equipment. The communists, not the Chinese people, are responsible for the unchecked spread of the disease from early November 2019 to January 2020. The epidemic could have easily been contained if they had acted in time. Instead, the Communists had blood samples destroyed in the laboratories.

    PLT, hence my question: Are the communists actually paying for the economic damage, the massive loss of taxes and the mass unemployment in Barbados? I do not believe that the international community will simply go back to normal once the epidemic is over.

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  • @ Tron

    She is the best leader in the world and can punch above her weight. Be thankful you have such a smart leader – and this in a nation that tells the world how clever it is, a nation incapable of thinking critically. They will buy packaged sunshine from an eskimo..

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Tron March 31, 2020 5:02 PM
    “I wonder why PLT is here praising the “generosity” of Chinese Communists…”
    ++++++++++++++++++
    I did not utter a word of praise. I simply posted press releases from the Chinese Embassy. I’m very aware of the quality control problems of medical equipment that China has been sending around the world in recent weeks.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @John
    so if…”Spread is from close contact at street parades.”……and…….”Virus came from China”
    how could Mardi Gras be effected? How many Chinese have you ever seen at Mardi Gras?

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  • Peter
    hakima
    @hakima70477643
    kn95 masks1.05$ available
    WeChat:15807086825
    WhatsApp:+008618413370932

    I don’t know if it works but u can do your research

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kenbensinger/coronavirus-kn95-masks-us-wont-import-china

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  • Hal,

    we are the first democracy that can react efficiently like a dictatorship to Corona thanks to a one-party state and unity of power. We don’t even need a formal empowerment law or a major emergency law. Mia Mottley just needs to snap her finger (like Thanos) to make everything work out the way she wants.

    Barbadians can relax on a deckchair on the beach, while in Little Britain the corpses pile up in the backyards of hospitals. Little Britain is no longer a role model for us. Once the Grim Reaper has raced through Europe and all the bodies are buried, WHO will praise Barbados and Taiwan as international role models in the fight against Corona.

    We should stop constantly criticising the government and Barbadian culture. Aside from low productivity, everything on the island is (nearly) perfect.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    Thanks Mariposa, but the Chinese government has just shipped us 4,000 of those. I hope they work and I hope that some of them find their way to QEH A&E.

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  • @ peterlawrencethompson March 31, 2020 5:14 PM

    Thank you very much for your clarification.

    After all, we are stuck with our multi-billion-dollar loss and have to foot the bill. We all agree that the epidemic hit Barbados at the worst possible moment. The next IMF programme, which I call STARVE, will be very tough.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Tron March 31, 2020 4:58 PM
    “Hungary is in the process of abolishing democracy…”
    +++++++++++++++
    Right wing regimes all over the world are exploiting the public health crisis to consolidate political power in anti-democratic ways. It’s happening in the USA, in Brazil, in Hungary, in Russia… I expect it also in India, Belarus, Italy and France. There should probably be a discussion on BU of the alterations to emergency legislation in Barbados, but I expect it would generate more heat than light.

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  • Earlier I wrote the following

    “Does Barbados have any chips to call in with China?” as the surest way that Bim could persuade China to gift it with some medical supplies.

    Now I read that the PM wrote a nice letter to President Xi Jinping at the height of the Wuhan outbreak and the island has been rewarded in its time of need.

    I leave it to Tron to gush the PM with superlatives.

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  • No need for ac’s generosity. Keep the gloves and prosper. Remember the fight against a pandemic requires a herd effort and behaviour to combat.

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  • @R Lucas

    I suggest you temper your euphoria. Equipment sent to Spain and Italy by China ( was sub-standard) did not work
    ++++++++++++++++
    Now you are worried about Quality Assurance? The Chinese just sent 80 tons of medical equipment to the US and more is on the way I don’t hear that the wealthiest country in the world is going to return any of it.

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  • @Hal A
    In Hungary, the prime minister can now rule by decree.
    ++++++++++++++
    60 minutes recently carried a segment on Hungary, whatever front the Gov’t is showing the rest of the world I couldn’t help but think it was very Third Reichs.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/video/hungary-paying-citizens-to-have-babies-60-minutes-2020-03-22/

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  • Enuff the gloves were 2 boxes of 40 each and 50 each according to sizes
    The mask run from 10 to various amounts upwards to fifty

    Have u every heard the story of the 10 virgins five wise and five foolish
    The foolish ones took their lamps with no oil
    Five wise took their lamps and oil
    When the moment of truth came the foolish said to the wise give me your lamps the wise said no go buy your own
    At midnight when the bridegroom came it was too late for the five foolish virgins to participate in the ceremony but because of their inability to be prepared for the wedding and was rejected
    Foolish virgins remind me of govt.

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  • Why bother with John when we can simply play this great song and dedicate it to his very stable genius who predicted weeks ago that pretty soon the number of cases would go from fifteen to zero?!

    #185270andcounting

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  • @ Sargeant March 31, 2020 5:35 PM
    It remains to be seen. I also do not trust the NYT much either. It always has sources that it claims tells it x,y and z. When the truth is revealed it is always not quite what the NYT claims. Track record lately not one to promote much trust.

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  • AN ADVANCED FORM OF THE VIRUS OF SOCIALIST INFECTION WILL LEAD TO THE COMMUNIST LETHAL INFESTATION!

    The Goal of Socialism is Communism”, Vladimir Lenin.

    Tell the PM who is in the process of bringing in Cuban Doctors to Barbados, to Stop Borrowing or Excepting Gifts from the Chinese…

    Barbados is already a Socialist Country as the other Caribbean Countries…This is More Lethal DIS-Ease than Covid, it will lead to a Loss of Freedom…Barbados will end up like Cuba and Venezuela.

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  • @ Dr.Lucas Something to Consider…

    Mar 20, 2020 – Dr Thomas Cowan – Virus et électrification de la Terre.

    The video shows a presentation by Dr. Thomas Cowan, M.D, who claims that, because Africa was not as affected by the coronavirus outbreak at first, there was reason to believe 5G could be the cause of the virus. His argument was, “Africa is not a 5G region.”

    5G is a new internet technology launched by mobile companies in 2020. It operates on the same concept as a 4G smartphone but is expected to be faster and more reliable when it comes to internet speeds.

    Some people agreed with Cowan’s point in the comments section of the video featuring his presentation. “As they put 60+ more satellites in our sky 4 MONTHS ago, and before CORVID19…. This guy is SPOT ON,” wrote user C K.

    Even musician Keri Hilton joined in the conversation. “People have been trying to warn us about 5G for YEARS,” she wrote in a now-deleted tweet captured by HuffPost. “Petitions, organizations, studies…what we’re going thru is the affects [sic] of radiation. 5G launched in CHINA. Nov 1, 2019. People dropped dead.

    “It’s an even bigger horror than this virus. I am seeing photos out of the UK where 5G poles have gone up and dogs are dead in the streets as well as burnt trees. I didn’t think that UK would go ahead with this killing field!!!!”

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  • @ Hal March 31, 2020 9:10 AM

    “My paternal grandparents, bless their souls, owned a rum shop and bakery in Nelson Street ”

    Was the bakery operated by the Norvilles ? If not, was it the one near juncture of Nelson Street and Wellington Street? My mother used to send me as a boy to buy bread hot from the oven at either bakery. every morning. Buy a dozen and most times you got thirteen or fourteen.

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  • For anyone who wants to understand “the why” behind some of teh COVID-19 measures we see internationally.
    Put aside all the guesswork and braying on BU and try to get a sense of what is going on.

    https://www.wired.com/story/the-mathematics-of-predicting-the-course-of-the-coronavirus/

    Dullard PhD

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  • @ Hal March 31, 2020 9:10 AM

    The so-called Czar apparently made a tour of Bridgetown yesterday, for the first time to see things for himself. He has concluded that the social distancing thing is not working. That the crowds at the supermarkets were too close and that can cause problems. If you go back to my first or second stroll, you will see that I immediately identified the lines at the supermarkets to be cause for concern : “one carrier in the lines would cause havoc. The government needs to take drastic action.” That was since early last week. He has now come to that conclusion. I would not be surprised if there is a 24hr curfew.

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  • Joan Armatrading – “Down to Zero.”

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    An appropriate song for the ‘Trumpster.’

    Looks like Trump is going to take advice from Fauci after all and will extend social distancing until the end of April.

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  • @ Dullard March 31, 2020 6:58 PM
    I do not need you to direct me to a link to understand what is going on I also have PH.D and have done post doctoral research in microbiology and recombinant DNA. Have been teaching public health courses. So cut the sarcasm.

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  • A 40pr and 50pr box….hmmm sounds mek up. Send a pic of the gloves and masks to the blogmaster. Not one masks or pair of gloves, not RH one. 🤣🤣🤣

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  • @ Artax March 31, 2020 7:36 PM

    Trump was always going to follow the advice : he is a pragmatist. Stop your gloating.

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  • peterlawrencethompson
    March 31, 2020 4:52 PM

    In the US doctors and nurses are being fired if they talk about the lack of facemasks or other protective equipment.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/hospitals-tell-doctors-they-ll-be-fired-if-they-talk-to-press

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Which state, all states?

    This is a rubbish article, a rubbish contribution.

    In Wyoming there have so far been ZERO, as in ZERO deaths.

    It has 120 cases.

    There are about 30 hospitals in Wyoming.

    Which Hospitals?

    Use the data sensibly and you will realise you are being led up a garden path and trying to lead others!!

    Must be Washington since there are a couple of mentions of that state.

    Washington has had 210 deaths and 4,550 cases.

    There are about 100 hospitals in Washington State, which ones?

    The writer was probably watching CBS which now admits it was showing footage of an Italian Hospital claiming it was in New York.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-news-admits-mistake-after-airing-footage-of-overcrowded-nyc-hospital-that-was-actually-in-Italy

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  • The supermarket at which I shop has painted lines both inside and outside of the supermarket at the recommended distance, Only saw one man getting a little too close on the outside..Everybody else was following the lines. The supermarket has erected barriers for all the cashiers and equipped them with disinfectant to wipe down the counter after every customer. One door has been closed and someone sprays your hands with alcohol when you enter. Of course, the staff stood up and made it happen. More power to them!

    There is almost nobody walking around in my neighbourhood. The watering holes are closed. The small shops and mini marts are closed and the boys seem not to be gathering under their shed.

    Who are these foolish people and where do they live? I am not seeing them my side of the 2 x 3 rock to which some of us, in the minds of some “escapees” are doomed to live. Strange how they tell us how much they care about Barbados and Barbadians but at the drop of a hat resort to insulting ALL OF US by labelling us “Les Miserables”. (Insert accent). But for all their bragging about their wonderful life they don’t come across as happy! And in the meantime Hal is out there worried that the white man will treat the white man first and leave the likes of him to die.

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  • @ robert lucas March 31, 2020 7:41 PM

    Perhaps you should have directed that comment to John. He was the individual who said Trump wouldn’t take advice from Fauci (please note, I’m not quoting him verbatim).

    And, I don’t where you got the idea I’m gloating.

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  • Dont have to prove anything to blog master a wise decision was made on my part
    Simple done
    But this i will tell u they were not purchased in barbados

    Btw i bought carbolic soap here at a huge price about 6 of them
    Yeap was getting myself prepared
    I guess govt can use that ( carbolic soap)as a tip unless those are already sold out

    Any how it seems that in order to get govt transparent loud noises have to be made
    Yes indeed loud noises were made towards govt because of govt lack.of judgement and poor vision by not having medical supplies for the frontline workers
    Then just like magic the news broke that China sent barbados a couple thousands masses and gloves
    Oh btw would those couple thousand mask and gloves be enough for the pharmacies or they dont count
    Anyhow something is better than nothing
    Ta ta

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  • robert lucas
    March 31, 2020 7:41 PM

    @ Artax March 31, 2020 7:36 PM
    Trump was always going to follow the advice : he is a pragmatist. Stop your gloating.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Fauci reckons there could be upwards of 100K deaths.

    As of today, there are 3,860 cases,

    In 30 days Fauci predicts there COULD be another 97,000 plus deaths.

    The experts also claim the deaths will peak in 2 weeks.

    One or more of the experts is crazy given these simple numbers.

    Like I said, the experts and the press need to be called to account.

    The only person who will is Trump.

    Fauci’s neck is out as are the experts.

    An amenable Trump has to be extremely worrying for the experts!!

    Fauci and the experts I reckon will soon get the runnings if they are smart enough realise they are being set up.

    Trump loses nothing in going along for a couple of weeks but I suspect the hammer will soon fall.

    If the experts think Trump is too dumb to appreciate the numbers as they are they are going to be in for a big surprise.
    .

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  • But looka muh crosses after a day of being beat down because of not sharing this is what i found

    The Queen Elizabeth Hospital (QEH) has an adequate supply of Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) for staff who will be working on the frontline to combat the COVID-19 outbreak.
    This assurance came from QEH’s Executive Chairman Juliette Bynoe-Sutherland who said that ensuring the hospital has at least three months’ supply in stock is just one of the steps taken to ensure that staff welfare is maintained throughout the journey.

    Well uh tell wunna people dangerous fuh trute

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  • Pelosi … “Come to Chinatown … safe … join us”

    Back in February!!

    In other words don’t mind Trump the virus is not an issue!!

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  • Pelosi is 80.

    She must have the lungs of a horse.

    Wonder if she smokes?

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Going back some five years or more ago one man invested his political capital in a lie about the nationality of Barack Obama… He lied and lied and lied and it has served him well.

    Here on BU the same thing applies handily… Lie, after lie after lie.

    For the record the US expert De Fauci said this: (my emphasis)

    “Whenever the models come in, they give a worst-case scenario and a best-case scenario. Generally, the reality is somewhere in the middle. I’ve never seen a model of the diseases that I’ve dealt with where the worst case actually came out. They always overshoot,”

    “I mean, looking at what we’re seeing now, you know, I would say between 100 and 200,000 (deaths). But I don’t want to be held to that.”

    The joys of being Christian…I imagine… the ability to lie and go to ur priest for regular penance and forgiveness…

    I will see u again tomorrow, my son, said the priest!

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  • We should look at SWEDEN.

    Let it run its course.

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  • The topic here is Trump, not Pelosi. Nobody ever said that Pelosi is a very stable genius. One cannot be a very stable genius and vacillate from one extreme to the other. One cannot be a very stable GENIUS and predict that the cases would peak at fifteen and quickly plummet to zero and find yourself out by 188,530 with 3,889 deaths and counting.

    That being said that does not mean that he is totally wrong about everything. The mortality rate could still turn out to be no more than the flu. That all depends, as you have said, on the denominator. This virus appears to be more dramatic because it seems to transmit more easily and when it kills, it kills quickly.

    We shall all have to wait and see as will Dr. Fauci AND Donald Trump because none of us have got a clue really.

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  • Donna

    Numbers are not your forte!!

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  • Trump was not the first world leader to close his country’s border in January.

    Another country did it a week earlier and has 5 deaths so far!!

    It’s population is 23.8 million.

    Let’s see if you can figure out the puzzle of the numbers.

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  • @ Robert

    It was opposite King William Street. It was called The Olde Grogge Shoppe.

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  • Should I wear a mask to protect myself?

    Only wear a mask if you are ill with COVID-19 symptoms (especially coughing) or looking after someone who may have COVID-19. Disposable face mask can only be used once. If you are not ill or looking after someone who is ill then you are wasting a mask. There is a world-wide shortage of masks, so WHO urges people to use masks wisely.

    WHO advises rational use of medical masks to avoid unnecessary wastage of precious resources and mis-use of masks (see Advice on the use of masks).

    The most effective ways to protect yourself and others against COVID-19 are to frequently clean your hands, cover your cough with the bend of elbow or tissue and maintain a distance of at least 1 meter (3 feet) from people who are coughing or sneezing. See basic protective measures against the new coronavirus for more information.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses

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  • I do not need you to direct me to a link to understand what is going on I also have PH.D and have done post doctoral research in microbiology and recombinant DNA. Have been teaching public health courses. So cut the sarcasm.

    Hey Dr Robert Lucas, thanks again for reminding us of your background in microbiology. I promise we will try not to forget this time.
    The Dullard is not interested in what you did in the 1970s. Why do you feel the need to share your CV on an anonymous virtual rum shop?
    The Dullard is just a simple guy, no fancy academic titles nor “post doctoral research in microbiology and recombinant DNA”.
    He is not impressed by certificates (only the green, honest type) but actions and truth.

    In any case the comment was not directed at you but at others who continue to mislead the blog.

    Did I tingle your fragile ego?

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  • WHO also said that the virus only infects people in certain categories most the elderly and people who are sick
    Now we are seeing people much younger being infected and dying
    The truth about the mask stems from shortages which is understandable but the authorities including Trump has proven themselves to be bold faced liars on the issue
    I listen to a clip of Carlson Tucker take on the story of the mask and the confusing explanations given by leading authorities and i had to agree with every word he said

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  • Tucker Carlson: We understand there’s a shortage of medical masks. Stop lying to us and tell the truth

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-shortage-medical-masks-stop-lying

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    David, the problem with the WHO guideline in wearing masks is the ‘fragility’ of its core intent.

    It’s not that wearing a mask by others will NOT generally be beneficial to prevent infection but simply because they need to focus on the gear of masks for medical pros due to the shortages.

    In that the WHO et al are being disengenuous … They will do us all a GRAVE injustice WHEN they then start to advise the wearing of masks by the masses….

    Which they WILL eventually as the issue of supply becomes a NON-ISSUE… Soon enough.

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  • Just as truth is not yours. Just saw your very stable genius changing his mind yet again. Apparently HE has a friend who is critically ill with complications from CO VID 19 . And so NOW the virus is NOT like the flu.

    And if you are referring to the fact that I did not subtract the fifteen cases from the number it is because by now they should have recovered and the number should have been ZERO.

    Now I will leave your rabbit holes to Bugs Bunny and return to THE CHILL ROOM.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Mariposa, there are occassions you make reasonable points but you are so often boldly imprecise that it’s difficult to accept you as ‘legitimate’ even when that happens.

    Case in point above… Your remarks about use of masks are in ball park of my views of the matter…

    But then you accompany that reality with the completely INACCURATE “WHO also said that the virus ONLY infects people in certain categories most the elderly and people who are sick”!

    I have read (like many) heavily if this subject matter and I NEVER read that bit of disinformation.

    Can’t YOU do yourself a big favour by being more careful or do you deliberately intend to be careless just like others you condemn!

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  • “One or more of the experts is crazy given these simple numbers.

    Like I said, the experts and the press need to be called to account.”

    Just as we followed the pattern to see how Covid survives…follow the pattern to see where everything leads…..the frontline workers are the ones seeing everything play out in real time..

    we done know Dr. GP is not doctor Enuff to tell us what he knows and/or suspects…too busy hiding.

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  • The Bronx.

    “Nurses and doctors at Jacobi Medical Center are on a “suicide mission” — exposed, along with their patients, to coronavirus because of inadequate protective equipment, a veteran nurse at the Bronx facility told the Daily News.

    “We just had a nurse who passed away over the weekend from this,” said Kelley Cabrera, who’s worked at Jacobi for five years. “We are starting to see our own fall sick. Who’s going to replace us?”

    Kelley Cabrera, a health care worker at Jacobi Medical Center, is pictured with makeshift protective wear on Tuesday.
    Kelley Cabrera, a health care worker at Jacobi Medical Center, is pictured with makeshift protective wear on Tuesday.

    Cabrera spoke through tears as she told The News that a physician colleague at Jacobi admitted himself to the city-run hospital Tuesday with symptoms of COVID-19, including difficulty breathing.

    “He waited at home. He did what we’re telling people to do. He didn’t come in until he needed care,” she said. “He can’t breathe. It’s hard enough watching patients go through it. It is so hard watching one of your own go through this.”

    New York State..

    “Gov. Cuomo offered grim numbers at his daily presser in Albany on Tuesday as an additional 332 New Yorkers died of coronavirus in the past day as the pandemic keeps ravaging NYC and its suburbs.

    The number of positive cases soared over 75,000 and the total death toll rose to 1,550 in the state.”

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  • Taiwan was the country.

    Closed its borders with Wuhan on 24th January, a week before Trump.

    Today it has 329 cases and only 5 deaths.

    Its population is 27.8 million and is also Chinese except not Communist Chinese.

    It has strong links with mainland China.

    It has the same population that should have celebrated Chinese New Year.

    On February 8th here are some of its other actions following its severing of contacts.

    Most important are its actions to prevent the young from catching and spreading the virus.

    https://thediplomat.com/2020/02/taiwan-delays-spring-semester-tightens-travel-rules-over-coronavirus-worries/

    You see the lunacy of Pelosi in Chinatown at a time when she should have been backing up her president’s actions!!

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  • @Dee Word

    What informs your “fragility” thesis of yours?

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  • There could have been NO frontline after Trump’s ban.

    No pandemic.

    Look at Taiwan.

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  • WHO had ZERO input into the unparalleled success of Taiwan!!

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  • We get it John. How many times do you want to make the same point?

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  • Pedantic
    Fo yourself a favour and scroll by comments
    You would save yourself a big headache
    As to my comment about WHO and statements on how the virus is spread i stand by what i said

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, Informed by my closing comment that the WHO will likely change guidance of masks usage to advise their wearing by the masses as initial protection.

    I thus used the word ‘fragility’ to highlight their current stance.

    I get it that front line professionals caring for the sick are in dire circumstances but that does not mean that WHO and the other experts themselves should be propagating bunkum that citizens using masks is non-beneficial… That’s callously ridiculous.

    One pertinent series of quotes:

    “During the early days of the coronavirus pandemic, experts and officials cautioned against widespread public use of face masks. US Surgeon General Jerome Adams tweeted, “STOP BUYING MASKS!” He added that masks “are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!”

    Ok…we got that! And then we get THIS…

    “But as the outbreak has worsened, experts have increasingly acknowledged that public use of masks could help prevent the spread of Covid-19, the disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), previously resistant to encouraging mask use by the general public, is now reportedly considering it.”

    It is COUNTERFACTUAL to state masks cannot be useful for everyday users… yet obviously we need them for the pros…

    … now when you get to this point below then someone is simply playing on our ‘fragile’ emotions!

    “The shift in expert guidance has come in the past couple of weeks — as the coronavirus has spread throughout the US. A recent report by public health experts for the conservative-leaning American Enterprise Institute (AEI) was unequivocal: “everyone, including people without symptoms, should be encouraged to wear nonmedical fabric face masks while in public.”

    I gone.

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  • Demographics explain how the virus was spread from young to old.

    See if you can decipher the simple fact in the available data below.

    Masks won’t help.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/07/02/living-at-home-states-where-millenials-stay-with-parents/39627465/

    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/EDN-20190514-1

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  • “John” keeps reminding us that Trump issued a ban on flights from China in January, he doesn’t tell us that South Korea and the US had their first COVID19 patient on virtually the same date in January, South Korea’s death count is under 200, what is the death count in the US ? Trump is like a man who told his family that a hurricane is coming but neglected to board up the windows and doors and didn’t replenish his supplies now that the hurricane has struck and the roof has blown off and the windows and doors are smashed and everything has collapsed around the residents who are huddled trying to escape the elements he is trying to repair the home but anyone would know that you can’t repair a house in a hurricane all you can do is wait and hope for it to blow over.

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  • @Dee Word

    You should read the top blog to appreciate how important mask handling is.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Mariposa, as with John or Hal or anyone else who makes outlandish claims I will at times respond.

    There is a response generally common to you all who are so absolutely convinced of your accuracy: you simply REFUSE to reexamine what you wrote and clarify the misspeak.

    YOUR comment about WHO I would gently say was carelessly misstated… that you would redouble to ”stand by what [you] said” and thus repeat it is to be bluntly dishonest.

    That statement “WHO also said that the virus ONLY infects people in certain categories most the elderly and people who are sick”!” …clearly shows your level of integrity and desire for accuracy.

    Carry on smartly. It takes all to make the world spin!

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  • The young are infecting the old in their own homes.

    Like children in kindergarten who routinely take sicknesses home young adults also took home the COVID-19 virus to their parent’s homes and their grandparents homes.

    It is the North east of America where the biggest problems lie.

    The authorities, Pelosi in California, de Blasio and Cuomo in New York are culpable.

    The Lord Mayor of London is culpable.

    The boss of Milan is culpable.

    The boss of Madrid is culpable.

    etc. etc. etc.

    The only sensible adult actions taken to prevent the spread were taken in Taiwan and by Trump (against expert advice).

    Taiwan was barely affected.

    We are in that boat as well by accident, not by design.

    The virus is neither as contagious or as deadly as believed.

    It however can be made to be so through childish actions.

    Sweden, like Taiwan may well be doing the right thing.

    My bet is they are.

    Let it run its course.

    No gatherings, especially young adults.

    Social distancing.

    Common sense.

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  • The president does not have the power to direct states to follow his orders.

    Left to Trump, a curfew would be on New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.

    Howls of protest from Cuomo!!

    States have rights that can’t be easily breached by presidents and the Fed.

    Pelosi, de Blasio and Cuomo behaved like petulant little children when the situation cried out for an adult approach.

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  • “Take what you want and pay for it.”

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  • Responsibility for the disaster in New York and California lies squarely at the feet of those three!!

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  • Here are some numbers expressed pictorially.

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  • China shut it down!!

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  • @John March 31, 2020 10:16 PM
    “We should look at SWEDEN.
    Let it run its course.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Why not proffer that advice to your example of the epitome of leadership and statesmanship.

    Wouldn’t it be a welcoming suggestion coming from the Quaker pacifist Sir John to Il Duce Donald the wacky ducky?

    By turning America into a quarantine camp your Fuhrer has finally declared the war he has been fighting for all along.

    The Trojan immigrant horse called Covid has jumped over the ‘white-washed’ wall of cordon sanitaire and has entered the camp of homeland security.

    Let us see how the trumpeter, el Presidente with his uniquely outstanding leadership qualities, ‘blows away’ the invisible enemy now contained within an imaginary wall.

    Maybe he should blow his own trumpet by seeking the BU GP’s advice and let the biblically-predicted Rapture begin to signal the return of Jesus on Easter coming.

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  • “In here must be the annex to Jenkins.”

    lol……ya won’t be picking up anybody under the guise of Corona though, stick with ya Beggars Charity as a COV-er..

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  • “Right wing regimes all over the world are exploiting the public health crisis to consolidate political power in anti-democratic ways.”

    exploiters and opportunists are out and about to use COV…..er up….all types of crimes and buy time to COV…er their TRACKS..

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  • It is the secondary infections from young to old, healthy to unhealthy, that makes this virus so horrible.

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  • … and the young and healthy can be imbeciles!!

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  • Especially the ones who go to university and are indoctrinated by the “experts”!!

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  • Miller
    April 1, 2020 9:37 AM

    @John March 31, 2020 10:16 PM
    “We should look at SWEDEN.
    Let it run its course.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Why not proffer that advice to your example of the epitome of leadership and statesmanship.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If you had any brain in your head you would realise that is exactly what will happen, with or without his help.

    But, he already knows!!

    The virus will run its course.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @John, you have very intense soliloquys and I wanted to see what are the things you are telling yourself… so if you will please clarify…

    “It is the secondary infections from young to old, healthy to unhealthy, that makes this virus so horrible.”

    Is there a DIFFERENT method in your deep dive analysis of history which has proven more horrible at anytime in spreading sickness/plague/virus? Your point here being what exactly?

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  • @ Dullard April 1, 2020 7:01 AM
    You even got the time wrong. I suggest you re-read the post that resulted in my comment. Maybe a remedial course in English comprehension is required . You sarcasm was quite evident. It does not affect my ego. People in glass houses should not throw stones,:thus your reply.

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