TRUMP: A Pre-mortem? Or, Death By A Thousand Cuts?

Submitted by Caleb Pilgrim

To return to Trump ….Today is day 1075 since President Trump’s inauguration in January 2017. According to the Washington Post, by December 16, 2019, he, Trump, had made a mere 15,413 false or misleading statements (otherwise known as lies). Some claim that he even lied about his father, Fred Trump’s place of birth.

Arguably, the Post’s figures might well have been inaccurate. We do not know and we will never know the exact number of lies Trump would have told family, friends, acquaintances, strangers, his Cabinet members individually or collectively, or even lies he might have told himself during the period. The Post’s figures might therefore have been limited to his “public” lies, and the Post’s estimate far too low.

Such has been POTUS’s achievement here – a far cry from President George Washington who allegedly never told a lie – that American social scientists have now developed a new category pertaining to lies: awarding politicians, such as Trump, “the bottomless Pinocchio”. He is clearly unable to control his lying; a medical condition sometimes known as “mythomania”.

By contrast, a pastor friend, a diehard Trump supporter and a black evangelical here in the N.E USA, like another friend and former Barbados unsuccessful political candidate in last year’s May 24, 2018 election; these see Trump, notwithstanding his “truthful hyperbole” as a great man of destiny. To be fair, the Pastor’s wife, more wise, more discerning, early intimated that as far as she could see “God is not the author of confusion”.

The die, however, has now been cast; the Mueller Report completed; the transcript made available; the Whistleblower’s report publicized; ditto the IG’s report; the respective House Committees have done their inquiries and Reports. and the House has voted its two Articles of Impeachment. The Senate reconvenes in short order.

It now remains for the Senate under Chief Justice Roberts to schedule and conduct its impeachment trial of the President, a rarity, in the context of looming Primaries and a 2020 Presidential election. Senators McConnell and Graham, prospective jurors in any impeachment trial, have said that they already decided the matter. What happens if or when Senator Schumer and the Democratic Senate minority somehow file with C.J Roberts a motion to disqualify McConnell and Graham and any other juror who has already prejudged the matter? And, witnesses such as Bolton and Mulvaney? Remember that for many Republicans Trump remains the only game in town.

It is therefore appropriate to essay some brief, if random, remarks on POTUS, his Administration, certain of its policies and his prospects at this juncture.

In using the term “pre-mortem”, I do not mean to suggest that Trump’s defeat this November is a foregone conclusion. We have been here before with disastrous consequences, as former Secretary of State Clinton belatedly discovered. In a sense, he must harp on the economy. and his apparent “success” …. the economy stupid”?

Yet, there is an inescapable law of diminishing returns. Just ask any older man. (Even King David, 1 Kings 1, when he was old and cold). This law, it seems, applies in almost every sphere, including politics.

Consider a politician, a man not unlike Trumpf who thinks one way. He then speaks a second way. He then acts a third way. He trifles, obfuscates, deflects, dissembles, even lies. Bullshit and trivia persist as standard, daily political fare. His public, usually fickle, often misinformed, uninformed or even dis-informed. But, as Lincoln remarked, you can trick them some of the time, but not all of them all of the time.

As reasonable people, we must therefore resist the idea of The Idiot Posing as Intellect, or some Trump (The Tramp-in-Chief), a renegade bolshevik businessman and Putin stooge masquerading and declaring himself (soi-disant) a man of high IQ and “a very stable” geni-ass. (Cf. his late Wharton School Professor, William T. Kelley, a nonagenarian, who described him as “the dumbest goddam student” he, Professor Kelley, ever had in more than 40 years teaching at Wharton; Kissinger’s reference to him as not having “a very orderly mind”; or Tillerson’s description of him – unretracted – as a “moron”; his former lawyer, Attorney Cohen’s testimony that he pressured Fordham and Wharton not to release Trump’s academic transcripts; his absence from the Dean’s list at Wharton despite his boast that he had graduated “top of his class” at Wharton; all in the context wherein he (Trump) demanded to see President Obama’s transcripts and academic materials). Truly, a man of seemingly impregnable, untouchable ignorance, with legions of rats of all varieties scurrying around upstairs.

Perhaps, Republican Senator Romney, when he was thinking more clearly, had Trump’s measure, when he counseled Trump against releasing his tax returns, and then subsequently described him as a “fraud” and a “conman”. Thus, by way of example, Trump has always proclaimed his love for the military. Yet, beyond his serial draft dodging, and whatever his personal demons, the only war he (Trump) seems ever to have fought may well have been limited to some gilded boudoir with relatively expensive “toys” such as “Stormy” Daniels and Karen McDougal, going rate between US $125K and $150K.

No one can say that he (Trump) had been in the US Air Force; then exiled himself to Canada, Sweden, Denmark, the U.K., or elsewhere, rather than kill so-called “gooks” in the “swamps” and muddy/paddy fields of Vietnam. He made the great escape. He now poses as a “chicken hawk”, like many another draft dodger.

The Reader might still note that in terms of re-election strategy, it is still open to Trump and his advisers to start a war, if necessary, and before the elections, if this will gee up his domestic support. E.g in the case of Iran. Many a red blooded American would then rally to “the cause”, with typical shouts of “USA” “USA”. The problem will be one of graduated response and escalation? In response, the Ayatollahs and the Iranian National Guard may have to decide on the feasibility of shutting down the Gulf – following up on their attack on Saudi oil infrastructure some time ago. Beyond profiteering by armaments manufacturers, the military-industrial complex, billionaire investors, what would be the implications for the world economy, OECD and LDC countries and the least developed countries?

As to the issue of race, Trump’s re-election strategy, the Black, Latino and minority vote.

Fortunately, many no longer deny the fact that POTUS is a racist. For too long, the naive denied this fact, despite the overwhelming evidence, (his spawning of birtherism, his notorious ads about the Central Park Five after their sentences had been vacated and all criminal charges against them withdrawn; the EEOC housing discrimination complaints against him – I would not be surprised if there was not at least one Barbadian family allegedly victim of his housing discrimination; his abuse of African countries and Haiti as “s—hole” countries; his attacks on the inner city as “rat and rodent infested”; his own admission that he is a “white nationalist”).

As to his palpable disdain for Mexicans, rumor once did percolate that his daughter, Tiffany, had dated a wealthy Mexican young man while at Wharton. Imagine some Mexican with his grubby paw on his beautiful, pristine, blonde, blue-eyed daughter! Enough to make a “nationalist” nauseous! Who knows the source(s) of his animus against Mexico and Mexicans?

To my mind, to deny that President Trump is a good old fashioned racist largely surrounded by white supremacist advisers, such as Stephen Miller, is like witnessing a man in a bank, pointing his gun at employees and customers on the bank’s floor, and denying that the gunman was a bank robber. What stupid poppy cock!

Yet, Trump can still make inroads into the Black Vote (with “Blacks For Trump” and some of his allies). What if Trump and his advisers, including Secretary Carson, following the reparations advocates decide to expend some political capital and give black families some sort of money (not “40 acres and a mule”, far less will do), or even Yang’s “Freedom Dividend”? Many a hungry belly black may well be seduced by such an obvious political ploy and vote for Trump.

As to his foreign policy, unlike the Kennedy Doctrine, the Johnson Doctrine, the Nixon Doctrine, and others, the Trump doctrine seems at best a series of ad hoc, incoherent, non-sequential non-points, never going beyond slogans such as “MAGA” and “America First”, reflecting Trump’s typical, torrential nonsensical tweets.

Several decades ago, the British Yearbook of International Law kindly published an article that I had written on some aspects of trade in the natural resources of Namibia (1990?). The French Revue des Revues subsequently dismissed the article in two words “tres interessante”. However, we all got it wrong. There was/is no such country as Namibia, per Trump in one of his recent addresses to the UNGA, He should be forgiven for not knowing the name of such a namby pamby “s–hole” country. And, thank God for small mercies insofar as he did not confuse Namibia with NAMBLA.

Imagine, also, that iyou were an immigrant, a green card holder, and a veteran who had been deployed to Iraq, Afghanistan or Syria. You return “home” to the USA. You find yourself in conflict with the law, felony or misdemeanor. You are convicted in a court of law. You are then deported to Mexico courtesy of a Commander-in-Chief who never served. (ICE officials who might never have served either). And, there are several hundreds such deported veterans in limbo in Mexico, a country they would have left in their very early childhood when their parents brought them to the US as minor children.

We need not speak of the moral obloquy involved in Trump’s policy of separating immigrant children from their parents and caging them, with resulting psychological problems.

In the final analysis, in Trump, we have a man singularly classless, embarrassingly clueless, uninformed and unfathomably uncouth. Bristling with hubris, fire and brimstone, he is more the common man’s” Lord Haw Haw”. But, give him credit. He has normalized the abnormal…He has successfully weaponized unspeakable, mass ignorance and intellectual dishonesty in the U.S. No wonder he says he loves “the poorly educated”). He has so consolidated his leadership of the Republican Party, and might yet demoralize his divided 2020 democratic opposition, all with untold implications.

Caveat: As I have said, always beware of any politician who promises that he will end corruption and “drain the swamp”. Experience teaches that he merely brings in his own new, personal swamp, a la Trump.

A second term, however, is no picnic. Just as Nixon defeated George McGovern overwhelmingly and was then driven from Office, early in his second term; just as Bill Clinton’s Presidency was almost derailed early in his second term by the Lewinsky affair, so too Trump’s chickens may come home to roost before any second term or early in his second term if he should win. Few, if any, at any rate, can indefinitely survive a thousand cuts.

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  • It would appear that the countries invited to meet Pompeo are Jamaica, Barbados, Bahamas, Belize, Dominican Republic, Haiti, St Kitts and Nevis, and St Lucia. Note Dominican Republic is not part of CARICOM.

    The Jamaica Observer (the voice of Sandals and the Jamaican private sector) certainly does not share Ms Mottley’s position.

    http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/editorial/mr-pompeo-s-visit-an-opportunity-for-our-region_185106

    @Hal
    Ms Mottley’s first order of business is to steer Barbados through shark infested waters. It is an impossible task to get policy alignment in CARICOM other than where next to wine and dine for the next summit.

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  • @Ping Pong

    The Jamaica Observer is parroting Holness and Government’s position vis a vis its relationship with big brother next door. No surprises.

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  • Do you consider the 17 year old Greta Thunberg to be a child-genius of a wacko?

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    Nope, just a sad victim of child abuse!!

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  • @ John January 21, 2020 11:02 AM
    Nope, just a sad victim of child abuse!!
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    So if Greta is now a “victim of child abuse” who then is the abuser or perpetrator?
    Sir David Attenborough?

    What you are effectively saying is that global warming is a big lie being told by a group of mad scientists with an anti-Trump anti-Christian agenda.

    Maybe what is happening in Australasia is your god’s way of telling the British white man (criminals, scum and land thieves) to return to the lands up North for which they have been zoologically and anthropologically adapted similar to the Biblical ‘white’ Jews (plagued with skin cancer) leaving Kemet and their exodus to the promised land of milk and honey.

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  • Google and you will see!!

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  • AUSSIE’S FIRESTORMS COME AFTER DECADES OF BAD FORESTRY, GREEN POLICIES…

    Christine Finlay has been sounding the alarm on bushfires in Australia for more than a decade after tracking the relationship ¬between reduced cool burning and the frequency of firestorms.

    And the Queensland-based fire ¬researcher, who charted a century of archival bushfire records for her Ph.D., has long been screaming danger.

    Finlay’s thesis examined problem bushfires between 1881 and 1981. What she found after plotting the historical data on a graph was that there was a marked increase in the size and frequency of fires after 1919.

    This was when bushfire-reduction operations increasingly moved away from traditional indigenous practices such as low-¬intensity cool burning.

    Finlay says this ¬detailed correlation between the accumulation of catastrophic fuel loads and the frequency of extreme bushfires made it possible to forecast the dramatic increase in firestorms we have seen in the 21st century.

    “For years, I energetically sent this predictive model to government agencies, in particular, bushfire services, the media, coronial and parliamentary inquiries and so on,” she says. “Horribly -ignored, it proved horribly accurate.”

    Finlay has the support of forester Vic Jurskis, who has written a book on fire stick ecology and how indigenous Australians managed the landscape with fire.

    In an open letter to the Prime Minister, premiers, chief ministers and opposition leaders in November, Jurskis said this season’s ¬bushfire situation was neither ¬unprecedented nor unexpected.

    “This latest holocaust is a direct consequence of unprecedented accumulation of 3D continuous fuels as a result of green influence on politics,” Jurskis says. “It’s all about fuel, not climate.”

    Half a century ago, Athol Hodgson, who later became chief fire officer of Victoria, explained the simple physics: doubling the available fuel usually doubles the rate of spread of the fire and -increases its intensity fourfold.

    Jurskis says control burning over large areas cheaply and effectively reduces the incidence of high-intensity wildfires and minimizes damage.

    When this year’s fire season ¬finally ends, Finlay’s research and Jurskis’s theories no doubt will be offered to a federal government review already proposed by Scott Morrison.

    All sides will have a big stake in any investigation: fire command, volunteer services, state government agencies and anyone who lives near the bush.

    Green groups are ready to battle demands that national parks be opened up to logging to reduce fuel loads. Politically, the Greens insist their environment policies adopted in November 2017 do not prohibit cool burns.

    Their policy puts climate change front and center but says “scientifically based, ecologically appropriate use of fire is a ¬important means to protect bio¬diversity and manage habitat -effectively.”

    The policy calls for “an effective and sustainable strategy for fuel-reduction management that will protect biodiversity and moderate the effects of wildfire for the protection of people and assets, developed in consultation with experts, custodians, and land managers.”

    The Greens have called on the Prime Minister to immediately ¬declare a royal commission into the bushfire crisis.

    Image… https://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/AiCzB4VqmYJMUfirK8QQiz/425262c8-a0dd-456a-8b96-119b8f5be99c.jpg/r0_0_1194_672_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

    PESKY FACTS GETTING IN THE WAY OF HER AGENDA! 😂

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  • Blogmaster:

    I recently raised in this blog the issue of the Trump Administration’s immigration policy and the deaths of children and adults in ICE detention, as well as catastrophic injuries suffered by some detainees prior to their deportation. It appears that the Trump Choir is, for whatever reason(s), unable to mount any meaningful moral or even legal defense of the Administration’s policy. Do you have any idea how and why those so vocal, so loud, (like the proverbial empty vessel(s), have now fallen so silent …. How bizarre!

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  • The USA is a racist place where capitalism must be protected at all cost. A pig in lipstick is still a Rh pig.

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  • The defenders’ apparent apathy and indifference to the plight of all immigrants, especially West Indians, is simply astounding.

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  • West Indians do not have a Guaranteed Right to go and live in America and Americans do not have a Guaranteed Right to Emigrate to the West Indies. Nevertheless, West Indians may Apply Legally to go to America and likewise Americans can Apply LEGALLY to live anywhere in the West Indies they desire.

    We who live in the Caribbean, still have to have Pass Ports to Visit other Caribbean Countries and we cannot work in those Countries unless we apply for work permits. Each Caribbean Country is a Sovereign Country just like America is a Sovereign Country and THE SAME WAY WE PROTECT OUR SOVEREIGN BORDERS AMERICA IS ENTITLED TO PROTECT THEIR SOVEREIGN BORDERS.

    The Americans and the West Indians all have ‘LEGAL IMMIGRATION’.

    FREEDOM LIVES IN BARBADOS AND HAVE SEEN OTHER WEST INDIAN PEOPLE BEING DEPORTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE LEGAL STATUS.

    America is NOT A RACIST Country. If you accuse America as being a Racist Country then you must also accuse Barbados as Being a Racist Country all ya have to do is read this Blog it as a True as what David thinks America is.

    One Question though, if America is such a Resist Country for Black people from the Caribbean why do so many people from Barbados and the Caribbean want to go and live in America. People run from trouble not too trouble. People are running from Venezuela they are not running to Venezuela. People are running to America from all the Countries of the world. Therefore, Somebody is Lying!

    Everyone Experiences Racism in his or her lives, Everyone Experiences Adversity in their Life we have to Rise above our Troubles and as the Famous lady said “Do the best you and when you have Know Better do Better”.

    THAT IS WHAT AMERICA REPRESENTS, CHOOSING BETTER AND BECOMING BETTER BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO SO.

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  • Caleb Pilgrim
    January 21, 2020 8:06 PM

    Blogmaster:
    I recently raised in this blog the issue of the Trump Administration’s immigration policy and the deaths of children and adults in ICE detention, as well as catastrophic injuries suffered by some detainees prior to their deportation. It appears that the Trump Choir is, for whatever reason(s), unable to mount any meaningful moral or even legal defense of the Administration’s policy. Do you have any idea how and why those so vocal, so loud, (like the proverbial empty vessel(s), have now fallen so silent …. How bizarre!

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    https://www.cato.org/blog/annual-death-rate-immigration-detention-rose-2017-fell-2018

    This may help you in dealing with your despondency.

    Check this too.

    https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/07/07/us-deaths-immigration-detention

    Can you let us know about deaths in custody in the cases of the Rohingya and the Uighurs?

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  • What about the deaths in custody in Barbados?

    Any stats?

    If there are 1000 persons incarcerated in Barbados and 1 dies, do you realise the chances of dying in custody in Barbados would be far higher than the chances of dying in ICE detention?

    You haven’t thought out your position very well.

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  • In 2016 for example, 3 people died in custody in Barbados.

    o Christopher Orlando Williams – 9th April 2016
    o Michael Fitzherbert Williams – 15th October 2016
    o David Christopher Clarke – 24th November 2016

    https://www.barbadosparliament.com/uploads/sittings/attachments/5ba354171872b1af4f1e9aa87f494404.pdf

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  • In 2016, there were 2.6 deaths in ICE custody per 100,000 detainees.

    Looks like it is 10 times more likely to die in custody in Barbados than in ICE detention centres.

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  • … actually more like 100 times more likely!!

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  • Anyway, we know Africa loves America and Trump.

    “MOTSEPE: All I wanted to say is that Africa loves America. Africa loves you.

    THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. That’s an honor. Thank you.
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    OTSEPE: And it’s very, very important. We want America to do well. We want you to do well. And the success of America is the success of the rest of the world.
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    USH: An African CEO, on the day after Martin Luther King Day praising Trump, praising America: Africa loves America. Africa loves Trump. Want both of you to do well.”

    https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/01/21/african-ceo-praises-trump-and-america/

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  • Africa loves Trump!!!

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  • @ John January 22, 2020 7:21 PM

    What do you expect from “SHTHOLE” countries? Doesn’t an ashole love its mouth to feed it sh**t(e)?

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  • As a proud member of the Trump choir, let me say that SoS Mike Pompeo did a good job today at a press conference in Jamaica defusing the hostility of CARICOM journalists.

    One guy asked a question of Pompeo that virtually accused him of dividing the region. Pompeo gave a gracious reply, bending over backwards to emphasize that the US was open to discussing all points of view on a host of disputed issues and was not interested in division.

    PM Holness made the same point, characterizing his talks with Pompeo as both FRANK and friendly.

    So Caleb, go take a shower and cool off.

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  • Re Freedom Crier:

    As to Trump & his Administration’s Anti-Immigrant Policies:

    Let us simply pass by on the other side of the grand buffet of nonsense that FC typically serves up. Isn’t there some more diligent Immigration Officer at Carlisle House, who can seize her “Pass Port” (sic)? Freedom thus does not even know that “Pass Port” is one word.

    Surely, there must be some mental, disability equivalent of moral turpitude in Barbados immigration law and policy, as with US immigration law and policy. Can’t tarry any longer. Gottogo!

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Miller, Not a pretty picture by any stretch of imagination but absolutely and hilariously noted @ 7:59 .

    Invariably ‘beggars’ in general also do not antagonize their benefactors…. John is so predictably ridiculous … wha anyone expect the African leader to say other than that!

    The beauty about POTUS can again be best pictured with more ‘shizzhole’ imagery: what sweet now in the mouth of this Republican choir is going to be extremely shizzy in dem bam-bam when the truths eventually come out .

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  • @ John:

    What is the logical relevance of the situation in Myanmar pertaining to that Government’s horrific treatment of the Rohingya minority and the PRC’s repression of the Uyghurs, and Trump’s Administration anti-immigrants policy.

    Both examples you cited represent horrendous human rights violations and must be condemned unequivocally. Bill Richardson, former Congressman and PRUN, thus rightly criticized Aung San Suu Kyi for said violations not too long ago. No sensible person defends the human rights violations and rampant atrocities perpetrated against these minorities.

    @ Your argument: How do such atrocities justify anti-immigrant atrocities in the USA, fueled by Trump’s xenophobia (except for immigrants from Norway)?

    Finally, as to your bogus, selective use of statistics, it reminds me of “Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics”, used to bolster your very feeble defense of the morally indefensible. But, there again, John, be careful lest some of your rather bizarre, bandit arguments confirm you as a linear descendant of Joanna, The Mad. Govern yourself.

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  • How an agency that purports to be news oriented not cover the full “trial” of the president of the United States??????

    They are deliberately keeping the Fox audience ignorant. The presentations are too damning. I know they will say that they don’t want to lend credence to the “witch hunt” but news is news. They could always spin later. Unfortunately the video and text message evidence is so damning that they fear they could lose a few of the supporters with half a brain. Trump cannot afford to lose ANY of them.

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  • @ Ewart:

    Re Pompeo today:

    Always remember to distinguish between what is important at the rhetorical, declaratory, (even aspirational level, e.g the nonsense about “friends of all, etc, etc) VS what is more important at the material, operational, real, substantive level.

    Some critics will therefore be singularly unimpressed by Pompeo’s sweet nothings, and compare them to bedroom talk intended to beguile the unwary. His actions will provide a far better measuring stick.

    Finally, re John and some of the other defenders who claim that Africans love Trump, I believe that it was the late C.L.R. James who said somewhere that every generation has its quislings.

    Ewart, get on the right side of history and cut out this nonsense about trying to defend this extraordinary gangster, who many Democrats, Independents and even some Republicans believe that he rightfully belongs behind bars.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @ Ewart, you engage practically with @John and ostensibly that’s a good thing as it exposes his “rather bizarre, bandit arguments” but as @Donna has succinctly noted he borders on lunancy at times.

    The other thing that comes to mind when I read some of bizarro world remarks is the Blogmaster’s oft repeated cry about wasted education expenditure over these 50 plus years… I marvel at the fact this guy had an excellent brain and used that education better than most of us and now has essentially ‘come back to the herd’ with some impossible to understand verbiage.

    I too had no damn idea what the Rohingya had to do with current US immigration policy; no idea why he went into a strange analysis of the speech and debate clause; nor why he would conflate deaths in custody on remand or otherwise in Bim with ICE detention deaths.

    No one of his mental acuity could be that irrationally ridiculous so surely he is making bare sport … and we follow him down his rabbit holes simply because of what he once achieved…. If someone had affirmed that ‘John’ was actually ‘Sharky’ or ‘Gearbox’ we would have dismissed his irrational remarks eva sense as the ramblings of an idiot!

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  • I figured that comment would get you!!!

    Just having some fun.

    Looks like an extra day will be added for case presentation in the senate but no witnesses to be allowed.

    I see Rand Paul says there are 45 Republican senators ready to toss with 5 to 8 wanting to hear more.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sen-paul-45-republicans-ready-to-dismiss-impeachment-charges-against-trump/ar-BBZdTid?li=BBnb7Kz

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  • @ John:

    As to the Cato Institute study, while I have used their studies, e.g on Criminal Justice Reform, their study on deaths (not inclusive of catastrophic, life threatening injuries) suffered while in detention is not dispositive in any way, shape or fashion.

    By way of example, an attorney friend advised me a year or two ago of a potential case involving a black West Indian who had suffered a truly horrendous, catastrophic injury – the sort of injury which leads one to question the individual’s will to go on – while in custody in a private, for profit prison.

    When the victim is deported in such a case (and promptly gets lost in the brush), how do we ever right such wrongs, as a supposedly decent civil society (perhaps a ton of hypocritical eyewash, in several instances) should.

    Such anecdotal evidence does not always make it into (is not captured in) the Cato studies, with a skewed result.

    Good try. Hopeless, losing case by any measure.

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  • @ John:

    I once favored Senator Rand Paul’s position against US interventions in Iraq, Libya, Syria and so on. More recently he seems to have been wined, dined and seduced by Trumpian nonsense.

    More to the issue of impeachment witnesses, I believe that to the extent that polls suggest that the majority of American voters would prefer to have witnesses testify, “Moscow Mitch” (McConnell), as he is called by some progressives, will have to compromise and allow witnesses and exhibits material to the issues.

    Finally, I believe that Biden’s blanket refusal again today to honor any Senate sub poena to testify was misplaced.

    The correct answer ought to have been: This matter involves Trump and his abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. He (Trump) is a material witness (in reality, he can/will never testify or any seasoned Democratic litigator will fry him like you fry an egg). Biden should thereafter say “I shall/will gladly testify beginning half an hour immediately Trump is finished his testimony”. That would crystallize/coalesce the issues for the voting public.

    As the late President Nixon said “The American People are entitled to know whether their President is a crook, and I am not a crook”. Could Trump say the same? Probably not!

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  • Re: Abuse of power

    Let us correct Caleb. Trump is NOT GUILTY of abusing the powers of his office.

    Why?
    Trump (who is responsible for helping enforce the laws of the United States) merely asked the president of Ukraine, the poorest and most corrupt country in Europe, to investigate Hunter Biden, who had no qualifications for a lucrative job on the board of a Ukrainian energy company — a job awarded at the time Obama had assigned Joe Biden the lead role in the management of US-Ukraine relations.

    Note that Trump did NOT ask the president of Ukraine to FABRICATE a charge against Hunter Biden or Joe Biden. Only to INVESTIGATE a situation that seemed to indicate wrongdoing by the Bidens.

    In any case, stepping away from legal issues for a moment, if the Bidens are corrupt, even the Democrats should want American voters to know about it.

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  • Abuse of power is about using the office for personal gain. Why did he asked for Biden to be investigated? Did he withhold aid as others have corroborated?

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  • @ Ewart:

    Dirt for $$$? Mulvaney, POTUS’s Chief of Staff, admits the quid pro ho.

    For Trump to deny aid to Ukraine, duly authorized by Congressional legislation, for his (Trump’s) personal gain – info has direct value to his re-election – constitutes an abuse of power.

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  • To repeat: President Trump asked Ukraine to investigate the Bidens because, as a law enforcement officer of the United States, he came across red flags that might indicate the Bidens acted corruptly in the previous Obama administration.

    President Trump was not required to say, “Because Joe Biden may one day run for president, I cannot enforce any laws that he or his son might have broken in Ukraine while Joe was in charge of the US file in Ukraine”.

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  • PS @ Ewart:

    I am always reticent about the “Right’s” demonization of others as “the most corrupt”, when they themselves carry a serious plank in their own eyes.

    BTW, I once taught Comparative Politics/Comparative Government here in the USA. Part of the basic course referred to the Soviet system of “blat” (translated as “favors”). Clearly, Trump knew what he was doing when he asked Zelensky — “I need you to do me a favor”. A rose by any other name is still a rose. Arrogance alone leads one to adjudge the Ukraine as the most corrupt country in Europe. Trump, by his words and deeds, is knowingly complicit in any such corruption.

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  • “I need you to do me a favor” is simply one of the conventional ways any kind of request, personal or impersonal, is phrased.

    Note: President Trump could not help the fact that, in seeking to enforce the laws of the United States in the Biden matter, he might realize an (inadvertent) benefit.

    At the time of President Trump’s telephone call to Ukraine, Joe Biden was not yet a candidate for president, and because of Joe’s advanced age, such a candidacy was by no means a sure thing.

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  • Caleb Pilgrim
    January 22, 2020 9:42 PM

    @ John:
    What is the logical relevance of the situation in Myanmar pertaining to that Government’s horrific treatment of the Rohingya minority and the PRC’s repression of the Uyghurs, and Trump’s Administration anti-immigrants policy.

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    I am just showing you areas where your moral outrage could be better directed, like this man from the Gambia, one of 18 children!!

    https://www.msn.com/en-xl/asia/asia-top-stories/the-man-who-took-aung-san-sui-kyi-to-the-world-court/ar-BBZeBnd?li=BBKxOeO&ocid=spartandhp

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  • Let’s take Hunter Biden’s behavior as being corrupt and worthy of being investigated as a given.

    Let’s also take as fact that Sleepy Joe, his father, is up to his neck in it.

    Sleepy Joe, in the unlikely event he becomes president of the US then becomes a prime candidate for blackmail by folks in the Ukraine.

    The investigation into Hunter Biden’s links to the Ukraine and by extension his father’s is a must.

    It has nothing to do with the personal political gain of Donald Trump but is a national imperative which a sitting president would be culpably negligent if he neglected.

    I see Barr and Durham are travelling the world.

    The best stuff is probably yet to come.

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  • What does Biden sitting on a Board is Directors – even if unqualified or otherwise- have to do with Trump abuse of power?

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  • @ Ewart:

    As to Biden’s “advanced age”, (77), I thought notwithstanding his apparent lackluster campaign, he still seemed younger and more intelligent than Trump (93?) who often seems to lumber or amble along with a most unsteady gait. Imagine POTUS had the audacity to claim that Romney walks “like a penguin”.

    I agree that Biden must fully address the issues surrounding Hunter Biden’s involvement in the Ukraine. When? Where?

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  • Some of the people who are DEMANDING Mia investigate and prosecute her predecessors in the Government of Barbados are somehow taking the position that it is an impeachable offense for Donsld Trump to investigate one of his predecessors in the Obsma administration for suspected wrongdoing.

    I would argue that Trump would have been neglecting his responsibilities as president if he had decided NOT to investigate Joe Biden, given the number of red flags in the Biden-Ukraine affair.

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  • I have said that rather than issue his blanket refusal to honor any Senate sub poena, Biden’s response should be that the matter concerns POTUS; POTUS is a material witness and should testify and clear the air; he (Biden) will gladly testify immediately after POTUS’s testimony.

    However, will never happen, despite POTUS’s bluster and bravado. Also b/c his lawyers cannot allow him to be exposed to a slightly withering cross-examination.

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  • @ Caleb

    Cut out the abbreviations and spell out what you mean. Is b/c because?

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  • David
    January 23, 2020 8:05 AM

    What does Biden sitting on a Board is Directors – even if unqualified or otherwise- have to do with Trump abuse of power?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wasn’t Biden sitting on a board of directors the purpose of the phone call?

    Somehow the phone call then morphed into an abuse of power.

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  • @ Hal: Yes. GM (meaning good morning).

    While we are at it, the others should also note that many observers consider the Trump Administration “the most corrupt in U.S history”. I have said previously that scandal ridden as his Administration is, it makes the Gilded Age look like an American Golden Age.

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  • John
    January 23, 2020 8:28 AM

    David
    January 23, 2020 8:05 AM
    What does Biden sitting on a Board is Directors – even if unqualified or otherwise- have to do with Trump abuse of power?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Wasn’t Biden sitting on a board of directors the purpose of the phone call?
    Somehow the phone call then morphed into an abuse of power.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So why would the Democrats create impeachment as a ruse to prevent the investigation of Biden?

    That’s the question to be answered!!

    Trump has to be cleanest (non-)politician in Washington for the simple reason that he has been investigated more than any (non-)politician in Washington and nothing has been found!!

    Even if he can be described as a politician then he has to be the cleanest!!

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  • Thanks

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Ewart Archer January 23, 2020 7:45 AM
    “At the time of President Trump’s telephone call to Ukraine, Joe Biden was not yet a candidate for president…”
    ++++++++++++

    This is a bare faced LIE.

    The 2020 presidential campaign of Joe Biden began on April 25 2019.
    Trump held up the previously approved military aid to Ukraine and in a phone call on July 25th 2019 asked Zelenskiy to announce an investigation into the company connected to Hunter Biden as a ‘favor’ while letting the Ukraine government know through back-channels that there would be no military aid until Zelenskiy complied. This is unambiguously confirmed by multiple sources including the Trump buddy Gordon Sondland appointed as US ambassador to the EU.

    Trump did call the Ukrainian President-elect on April 21 to congratulate him on winning the election that day. Zelenskiy had not yet taken office and Trump never mentioned either corruption or the Bidens; he spent the time talking about the Ukrainian beauties he met when he owned the Miss Universe competition,

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  • The law is not an ass but the people who administer it are

    If you are wondering why USA and UK are not paying reparations for their crimes to mankind

    the abuse of power in the Trump impeachment and Senate hearing is food for thought

    white supremacy racism is just a numbers game where whites are paranoid of being minority and treated like boers

    the whole US justice system is as bent as a Troll leader using Racial Psyops

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  • @ Dub Street

    You want black incompetency to be subsidised, why? 180 years after the abolition of slavery and 53 years after constitutional independence, you want reparations. What about the bad governments we have had since 1966 and still do? Who pays for that? Grow up.

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  • @PLT
    This is a bare faced LIE
    ++++++++++++++++
    Their leader trafficks in LIES and we shouldn’t be surprised when the disciples follow the same path.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    Ewart Archer January 23, 2020 7:28 AM
    “President Trump asked Ukraine to investigate the Bidens because, as a law enforcement officer of the United States, he came across red flags that might indicate the Bidens acted corruptly in the previous Obama administration.”
    ++++++++++++

    This is yet another completely despicable LIE.

    Trump notified Congress in February 2019 and May 2019 that it intended to release this aid to Ukraine, with the Defense Department certifying that Ukraine had made sufficient progress in fighting corruption.

    However, despite these notifications to Congress which had gone through all the due diligence and investigation of the US State Department and US Defence Department, in June 2019 the Trump administration placed military aid to Ukraine on hold without consulting either the State Department or the Defence Department. This month the US GAO (Government Accountability Office), concluded that the White House broke federal law by withholding Congress-approved military aid to Ukraine.

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  • “Her only possible misstep is to openly accuse the US of trying to divide CARICOM which is somewhat comedic since CARICOM was already divided and is not unified on much to start with.”

    Not misstep but ill advised rhetoric since we cannot even agree on LIAT.

    She should have asked those attending to lobby the USA to enter into reciprocal visa arrangements with the Caricom countries where no such arrangements exist so that the same way American citizens can enter our countries without visas so we should be ableto enter the USA. must be heart breaking to those persons from the Eastern Caribbean to have to pay all that money to travel here and pay to apply for a visa too and then to be denied.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    David, any points on offer for “What does Biden sitting on a Board is Directors – even if unqualified or otherwise- have to do with Trump abuse of power?”😂 …. Around and around the Mulberry bush with this specious, intellectually absurd moot that POTUS actually had justifiable reason to single out corruption in Ukraine as he did. A ROFLMHO line of BS!

    That gentlemen from the supposedly rigorous world of academia and other scholarly pursuits are so willing to subvert that supposedly rigorous thinking with BS as you noted is par for course: a slew of other ‘intellecuals’ have insulted commonsense and tickled the funny bone similarly.

    BTW, @Pilgrim I missed your point with “The American People are entitled to know whether their President is a crook, and I am not a crook”. Could Trump say the same? Probably not!”

    Nixon WAS a CROOK. Of course POTUS says the same thing. 16,000 plus different ways since inauguration actually: “I didn’t have anything to do with writing thevTrump tower memo in AF-One”; “So what if I don’t pay taxes, that’s what the system allowed me to do” … He too is a CROOK and denies it as ‘ Tricky Dick’ did….. so I don’t get this reference as a point! 🤣

    It was said: “Trump (who is responsible for helping enforce the laws of the United States) merely asked the president of Ukraine, the poorest and most corrupt country in Europe, to investigate Hunter Biden, who had no qualifications for a lucrative job on the board of a Ukrainian energy company — a job awarded at the time Obama had assigned Joe Biden the lead role in the management of US-Ukraine relations.”

    To repeat what @Pilgrim said: For Trump to deny aid to Ukraine, duly authorized by Congressional legislation, for his (Trump’s) personal gain – info has direct value to his re-election – constitutes an abuse of power.

    The US Defense Dept had CERTIFIED in May 2019 that Ukraine met the required benchmarks to receive the aid. So if this man who is laugingly described as seeking to enforce laws and root out corruption was serious then he would empower the duly assigned Ambassadors and FBI/DoJ officials to investigate or revisit that certification and NOT assign his PERSONAL lawyer and a posse of political muck-raking fixers to character assasinate an ambassador and make deals with a former, already exposed deeply corrupt Ukraine prosecutor.

    And he certainly would NOT keep all that a secret nor let his OMB political appointee instruct the Pentagon to (direct quote) keep the “sensitive nature of the request” under wraps…. if this is about safeguarding tax payer disbursements to corrupt nations what is so SENSITIVE!

    I completely agree that “The American People [and the world] are entitled to know whether [the] President [or the Bidens are] crooks…” … In reality we already know that one is a liar, cheat and a crooked tax schemer we simply need the withheld “tapes” to confirm the extent of his crookedness!

    BTW…re “Note that Trump did NOT ask the president of Ukraine to FABRICATE a charge against Hunter Biden or Joe Biden. Only to INVESTIGATE a situation that seemed to indicate wrongdoing by the Bidens.”

    Actually he DID. POTUS’ attorney did seek to FABRICATE a charge of wrong doing by soliciting and propagating the FABRICATED ‘indictment’ from the former Ukraine prosecutor re the Ambassador and use that to tie the Trump falsely accused ‘crooked ambassador to the supposed illegal play by the Biden’s.

    So let his fans create as many alternative facts desired and practice their mental gymnastics in preparation for Simon Biles expected masterclass displays at the Olympics this summer and even boast like Connor McGregor that the man is a “phenomenal President. Quite possibly the USA [greatest of all time]” …. but good Lord lets NOT simply dismiss ACTUAL FACTUALLY IRREFUTABLE DATA to satisfy our intellectually self pleasuring!

    I gone.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, any points on offer for “What does Biden sitting on a Board is Directors – even if unqualified or otherwise- have to do with Trump abuse of power?”😂 …. Around and around the Mulberry bush with this specious, intellectually absurd moot that POTUS actually had justifiable reason to single out corruption in Ukraine as he did. A ROFLMHO line of BS!

    That gentlemen from the supposedly rigorous world of academia and other scholarly pursuits are so willing to subvert that supposedly rigorous thinking with BS as you noted is par for course: a slew of other ‘intellecuals’ have insulted commonsense and tickled the funny bone similarly.

    BTW, @Pilgrim I missed your point with “The American People are entitled to know whether their President is a crook, and I am not a crook”. Could Trump say the same? Probably not!”

    Nixon WAS a CROOK. Of course POTUS says the same thing. 16,000 plus different ways since inauguration actually: “I didn’t have anything to do with writing thevTrump tower memo in AF-One”; “So what if I don’t pay taxes, that’s what the system allowed me to do” … He too is a CROOK and denies it as ‘ Tricky Dick’ did….. so I don’t get this reference as a point! 🤣

    It was said: “Trump (who is responsible for helping enforce the laws of the United States) merely asked the president of Ukraine, the poorest and most corrupt country in Europe, to investigate Hunter Biden, who had no qualifications for a lucrative job on the board of a Ukrainian energy company — a job awarded at the time Obama had assigned Joe Biden the lead role in the management of US-Ukraine relations.”

    To repeat what @Pilgrim said: For Trump to deny aid to Ukraine, duly authorized by Congressional legislation, for his (Trump’s) personal gain – info has direct value to his re-election – constitutes an abuse of power.

    The US Defense Dept had CERTIFIED in May 2019 that Ukraine met the required benchmarks to receive the aid. So if this man who is laugingly described as seeking to enforce laws and root out corruption was serious then he would empower the duly assigned Ambassadors and FBI/DoJ officials to investigate or revisit that certification and NOT assign his PERSONAL lawyer and a posse of political muck-raking fixers to character assasinate an ambassador and make deals with a former, already exposed deeply corrupt Ukraine prosecutor.

    And he certainly would NOT keep all that a secret nor let his OMB political appointee instruct the Pentagon to (direct quote) keep the “sensitive nature of the request” under wraps…. if this is about safeguarding tax payer disbursements to corrupt nations what is so SENSITIVE!

    I completely agree that “The American People [and the world] are entitled to know whether [the] President [or the Bidens are] crooks…” … In reality we already know that one is a liar, cheat and a crooked tax schemer we simply need the withheld “tapes” to confirm the extent of his crookedness!

    BTW…re “Note that Trump did NOT ask the president of Ukraine to FABRICATE a charge against Hunter Biden or Joe Biden. Only to INVESTIGATE a situation that seemed to indicate wrongdoing by the Bidens.”

    Actually he DID. POTUS’ attorney did seek to FABRICATE a charge of wrong doing by soliciting and propagating the FABRICATED ‘indictment’ from the former Ukraine prosecutor re the Ambassador and use that to tie the Trump falsely accused ‘crooked ambassador to the supposed illegal play by the Biden’s.

    So let his fans create as many alternative facts desired and practice their mental gymnastics in preparation for Simon Biles expected masterclass displays at the Olympics this summer and even boast like Connor McGregor that the man is a “phenomenal President. Quite possibly the USA [greatest of all time]” …. but good Lord lets NOT simply dismiss ACTUAL FACTUALLY IRREFUTABLE DATA to satisfy our intellectually self pleasuring!

    I gone.

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  • Sleepy Joe tried the old tactic described by Donna earlier … get out in front of the investigation of his son he knew was coming.

    His son is the subject, and the son sure ain’t running to be president!!

    How could investigating “Where’s Hunter” affect the presidential elections?

    The Ukraine corruption investigation stems from the Steele Dossier that failed the Mueller test.

    The Steele dossier stems from 2016, long before Trump was won and even longer before Sleepy Joe announced his candidacy.

    “Where’s Hunter” was always going to be a casualty.

    Just as Hilary who paid for the dossier could be another casualty.

    Expect Hilary to announce her candidacy soon.

    The chickens are coming home to roost!!

    The Democrats are watching Trump eviscerate their cushy way of life and not liking it.

    He said he would “DRAIN THE SWAMP” and this is what it looks like.

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  • WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT!
    AFTER ALL THESE ALMOST A THOUSAND CUTS WUNNA AINT KILL TRUMP YET?
    WUH BOUT THE IDIOTS FROM THE HOUSE BEFORE THE SENATE?
    HAS THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE CUT HIM UP YET AND KILL HE?
    JUST ASKING?

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  • Out of all the names called, Trump has to be the cleanest for the simple reason that he is the only one who has passed all investigations.

    The Democrats handed Trump that distinction!!!

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  • “You want black incompetency to be subsidised, why? 180 years after the abolition of slavery and 53 years after constitutional independence, you want reparations. What about the bad governments we have had since 1966 and still do? Who pays for that? Grow up.”

    1.Learn your manners if you want to engage
    2. ‘After slavery’ came colonisation of mama Africa, Asia, Opium Wars, Institutional Systemic Global White Supremacy, Third World Poverty, Lack of Employment Opportunities and progress for Blacks except for menial jobs.
    3. 53 years is a blink of the eye compared to 400 years of colonial rule and cut throat dog eat dog capitalism

    know your place in the world designated to be subordinated at the bottom of the bottom and carry your heavy heavy load and shut up and just take your licks with the beating stick.

    Blacks got the Blues
    If you’s white you’ll be alright
    If you’s Brown stick around
    As you Black brother get back get back get back

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  • The Blues Is A Woman

    Ball and Chain

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  • W hat will the reparation be for? Slavery? Colonialism? Bad post-independence government, or all?
    Look what you have said: “‘After slavery’ came colonisation of mama Africa, Asia, Opium Wars, Institutional Systemic Global White Supremacy, Third World Poverty, Lack of Employment Opportunities and progress for Blacks except for menial jobs.”

    An example of appalling ignorance. Blame 53 years of incompetent go governments.

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  • @ GP THE GULLIBLE:

    Someone once said, you will remember from your HC days, “the ides of March have come, but not yet gone”.

    There will be a reckoning sooner or later …

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  • Hal Austiin
    January 23, 2020 11:06 AM

    W hat will the reparation be for? Slavery? Colonialism? Bad post-independence government, or all?
    Look what you have said: “‘After slavery’ came colonisation of mama Africa, Asia, Opium Wars, Institutional Systemic Global White Supremacy, Third World Poverty, Lack of Employment Opportunities and progress for Blacks except for menial jobs.”
    An example of appalling ignorance. Blame 53 years of incompetent go governments.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I see you are now letting us know you have two i’s and can see well.

    Its a faulty education many today have received!!

    “Just as Europeans enslaved Africans, North Africans enslaved Europeans; more Europeans than there were Africans enslaved in the United States and in the 13 colonies from which it was formed.

    The treatment of white galley slaves was even worse than the treatment of black slaves picking cotton. But there are no movies or television dramas about it comparable to Roots, and our schools and colleges don’t pound it into the heads of students.”

    https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2010/05/01/thomas-sowell-poisoning-present-by-distorting-slavery-s-past/

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Ok…I really need to type faster. @PLT I see you succinctly covered those points i raised … or maybe i need to be write less 😎.

    You are also more direct that I am… I opt not to call folks like @Archer and @John liars despite their obvious disconnect with factual accuracy on most things POTUS…. John in particular amazes me…his line of reasoning boggles my limited mental capacity!

    @John, help me here…are you actually being serious to play this sequence of logical progression….

    1“Wasn’t Biden sitting on a board of directors the purpose of the phone call?”
    2“Somehow the phone call then morphed into an abuse of power.”
    3“So why would the Democrats create impeachment as a ruse to prevent the investigation of Biden?”

    Are you SERIOUS!. I never knew the purpose of the call was the directorship of a private US citizen on the Burisma board but THAT alone would make everything else you say null. That would be the impeachable act based on the withholding of congressional approved funds!

    Why do you persist is setting up inaccurate straw arguments and then building an illogical stream of words around it.

    😂 example…“Trump has to be cleanest (non-)politician in Washington for the simple reason that he has been investigated more than any (non-)politician in Washington and nothing has been found!!”

    You obviously have NOT read ANY OF THOSE investigations … 1. He was labelled a co-conspirator to campaign finance law irregularities in one report (the other conspirator was CONVICTED and is in jail) That’s YOUR illogical stream of words definition that “nothing has been found”. 2.He was definitively labelled as NOT absolved of obstructing justice in another…rules simply demanded that no charge be laid against him if prosecution could not be brought against a sitting POTUS… the report SPECIFICALLY did not say he was innocent!

    How do you twist your logic so? Don’t you get bad headaches or something from all that bending and synapse misfiring.. oh lordie. You are a riot!

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  • @ Quaker John

    I can’t even spell my own name. Went to school in Barbados. Seriously, a warped education is worse than imprisonment, in fact, it is imprisonment of the mind.
    From bad history of independence, celebrating Barrow as the so-called Father of Independence, to a hollow call for reparations, with many of the advocates not knowing why they want reparations and how much and what for, the debate is silly. At least UWI/Beckles got a deal with the University of Glasgow.

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  • PLT 10.04 AM

    The Government Accountability Office (GAO) is an office of auditors, with a few lawyers on staff. The lawyers are, to be frank, second-rate government lawyers. The auditors perform audits of financial and organizational controls.

    The GAO declares EVERY presidential administration to be in violation of the law. Because the U.S. has tens of thousands of laws, as a practical matter it is not possible to exercise the functions of the presidency without violating some laws, sooner or later.

    Previously, the GAO accused the Obama administration of multiple violations of the law. But the Republicans in Congress did not draft an impeachment resolution against Obama when the GAO made its accusations.

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  • PLT

    Let me acknowledge that I made a mistake in arguing that Joe Biden was not a presidential candidate at the time of the Trump telephone call to Ukraine. The call was made on July 25, 2019, and Joe had declared his candidacy three months earlier.

    However, that mistake, by itself, does not undermine my argument. Whether Joe was a rival candidate or not, Trump was obligated to investigate the red flags in the Ukraine file.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Ewart Archer

    Acknowledgement accepted. I understand why you made the mistake, because the White House has been spreading that lie with great enthusiasm.

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  • Chickens coming home to roost!!

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Ewart Archer
    “Trump was obligated to investigate the red flags in the Ukraine file.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++

    There were NO red flags in the Ukraine file.

    There is an official procedure for certifying the corruption or lack thereof of foreign aid recipients. This procedure was conducted by professionals at the US State Department and the US Defense Department who had expertise, security clearance, and access to ALL the evidence. They made an official ruling for the US Government that Ukraine had no red flags.

    Trump then subverted this entire process, and violated Federal law to try do dig up dirt on a political rival.

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  • “An example of appalling ignorance. Blame 53 years of incompetent go governments.”

    Where were you born. How old are you.

    53 years of incompetent Government has nothing to do with GB’s crimes against mankind.

    53 years of incompetent Government has nothing to do with me.

    Bajan folks like to claim they are smart asses it seems a trait of barbadosundregruond like a bad spell

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  • Dribbler

    You may believe Trump had an ulterior motive for investigating the Bidens.

    But it is common for law enforcement officials to have ulterior motives for investigating specific crimes and targeting specific individuals. In the United States, the most common way to advance a career is by successfully prosecuting a “big fish”. That is how Rudy Giuliani became mayor of New York.

    Since law enforcement does not have the resources to enforce all the laws all the time, police and prosecutors are allowed the discretion to pick their targets. If a defendant is prosecuted and found guilty, the judge will ignore any defence claim that the prosecutor was only interested in promoting his career.

    Conclusion: If the Bidens are corrupt, it should not matter that Trump would personally gain from targeting them for prosecution.

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  • What is the reparations for? You still have not said.

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  • PLT

    There were OBVIOUS red flags in the Ukraine file. I have told you what they are. Any good law enforcement official would have investigated the Bidens.

    The federal officials at the State Department and the Pentagon who refused to follow up on the Biden red flags — during and after the Obama administration — were either negligent or corrupt. That is one reason Team Trump has given for circumventing the bureaucracy in its attempt to investigate Joe Biden.

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  • If the senior editor of financial times cannot see the connection between the City of London aka the Shitty City of Iniquity and the slave trade funded by shares resulting in growth of investment banking, capitalism and global trade then he is seriously missing.

    he should not waste time on Underground and do some work instead

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Ewart
    Law enforcement did investigate the Bidens and the firm Burisma repeatedly going back to 2012.

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  • What is the reparations for? Is it for slavery, colonialism, bad post-independence government or all?

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Ewart
    At some point you will need to try taking off your tinfoil hat and swallowing the idiotic Trump conspiracy theories.

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  • I have not seen any innocent explanation for Hunter Biden’s lucrative job in Ukraine.

    Joe Biden is OBVIOUSLY corrupt, since he was obligated to PREVENT his son from enriching himself through his association with Daddy.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Senor Archer, I am sure u know a fallacy or in Bajan a ‘lotta long talk’ when u see it…

    Your post ending with “Conclusion: If the Bidens are corrupt, it should not matter that Trump would personally gain from targeting them for prosecution” is fallacious lot-of-long-talk.

    If the Bidens are corrupt then evidence can be pursued to that degree by any big fish hunting DA as u so euphemistically said.

    It is and has always ethically wrong for ANY POTUS to put his hands on the scale of justice on ANY US legal matter for ANY citizen… It is bordering on ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ or as said by one of those founders as offenses “…which proceed from the misconduct of public men [… or] from the abuse of violation of public trust” and THUS impeachable if that POTUS does that abuse of public trust for HIS personal gain.

    It is in line with Trumpian speak for you to say that “it should not matter that Trump would personally gain from targeting them for prosecution” but otherwise absurd, illegal and unacceptable in previously lawful US processes.

    The standard for any direct connection to a legal matter used to be an old fashioned standard called recusal … Now its “so what if I am involved…Im the President..I make the law”*.

    That works well…when u are the boss…he and you better be careful when he isn’t!

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  • Wasn’t the most recent Ukraine “corruption” made out of whole cloth that the Ukrainians were holding a DNC server which was Rudy’s attempt to shift the focus (and mollify Trump) that the Russians interfered in the 2016 Election to help Trump to an accusation that the Ukrainians interfered to help Hilary.

    Trump can’t shake the fact that that Putin was pushing buttons to help him so they have Durham (supported by Barr) leading investigations which have led nowhere. The Ukrainians were caught in the middle they wanted the aid that was promised and they also knew that there was no evidence of corruption by the Bidens and they stonewalled Trump and Rudy. They were ready to give in to what Trump wanted -an announcement (not prosecution) that they were investigating Biden so Trump could have his platform issue but the whistleblower saved the day.

    Nixon famously said “The American people should know that their President is not a crook”, they don’t have to wait on a similar announcement from Trump.

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  • Stephen Miller is Jewish, not white. He is ethnic.

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  • Hal Austin
    January 23, 2020 1:59 PM

    Stephen Miller is Jewish, not white. He is ethnic.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    CP is unaware of these concepts.

    Well over his pay grade.

    Wonder if he is teaching them too as he seems to be teaching everything!!

    I am considering razzing him about quantum physics to hear if he has taught that too!!

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  • @ PLT: Kudos re your accuracy. Trump minions like John typically have an extra large fog machine and they swallow up too much and are clearly blinded by the dense fog (Trump’s “alternative facts” and his fake news, i.e his habitual lies).

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  • @ John:

    Those who worked directly with S. Miller in the White Housevhave described him as “a white nationalist” or a white supremacist.

    Because he is Jewish, does not mean ipso facto that he cannot be “a white nationalist” or a white supremacist.

    There is plenty of false consciousness around. Someone named “John”, in a fit of madness, (temporary, hopefully), once described Trump as a “representative of the proletariat”, and then had the audacity to try to defend such a strange proposition. Trump, having stiffed many a worker, many a small businessman and any their employees. How ill-lucid! What ill-logic! Is it full moon down there in Barbados; or is the sun so hot that it has made John feverish as to deranged his “thinking”? It happens!

    Based on

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  • @ Caleb

    What do you call a black person who supports Miller and the Trump-supporting nationalists? A black nationalist or a white nationalist or just a nationalist?

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  • @All… I haven’t been following this thread; I prefer to get my Trump noise filtered through various online (text-based) news outlets. news.google.com is my friend.

    I invested the time to read this article: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/23/bloomberg-attacks-trump-102723

    I finally understand Bloomberg’s strategy. Brilliant! He can do damage using his own money (no need for a Super PAC), and if he doesn’t win the primary he continues with that momentum for whoever does win.

    IMHO, Trump is toast (but then, I said that approximately 45 months ago too…).

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    “IMHO, Trump is toast …” @Halsall you need to fix your toaster 😂

    The man will only be toast if he is impeached … meaning incriminating evidence is leaked (officially so) during the current trial forcing McConnell to modify his rulings on new evidence/witnesses , or even if that evidence comes out after the trial and forces Republicans to accept that they cannot reelect a Nixonian crook.

    Otherwise, he can very easily win reelection…

    But it is impossible that the US and world can sustain another four years of this POTUS turbulence of implusiveness, disinformation and disregard for rule of law…so you are right that he will be toasted to a crisp before he has to leave the WH before 2024.

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  • @. Hal:

    See “https://www.google.com/amp/s/barbadosunderground.net/2017/07/02/the-new-nationalism-whats-in-a-name-the-white-nationalist-and-the-strange-re-birth-of-humpty-dumpty/amp/”.

    The black Trump supporter, given Trump’s racist ideology, is like the blacks who fought for the Confederacy during the Civil War. If and when they were declared “free”, they would quarrel with their slave masters about being abandoned and being left to their own devices.

    There is nothing such as a “white nationalist”.

    Nationalism requires at a very minimum:

    People with a common history, culture, language and stock of memories;
    A well defined national territory, even e.g Kurdistan, Wales, Scotland, etc.

    What does English nationalism have in common with French nationalism? German nationalism with Polish nationalism, or even Slav nationalism? Most of these peoples are white; but their nationalisms and their national character(istics) are quite different.

    So-called “white nationalism” is euphemistically a dressed up ugly mongrel, indistinguishable from good, old-fashioned white supremacy and white, racist bigotry.

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  • @ Caleb

    So Trotsky got it wrong when he talked about Black Nationalism and Self-determination? By the way, the ‘Johnson’ he was talking to was CLR Jams.

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  • @ Hal:

    “Race” and “nationality” are separate and distinct concepts. There are literally tons of UK & USA writers on nationalism, e.g E. Kedourie, Minogue, Ernest Gellner, F.H Hinsley and others in the U.K., Carlton Hayes, Anthony Smith et al.

    I don’t believe that any serious scholars have adopted the notion of “white nationalism”. It may have crept into the language (to the extent that we are un-critical and beguiled by the sometimes sophistry by white supremacists and a dissident Yalie, like one Jared Taylor.

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  • It amazes me that CALEB PILGRIM can still live on the Democrat plantation.

    I lived in Chicago for nearly a decade. Typical big city with a Democrat mayor presiding over urban squalor with the help of a brutal police force with mostly white officers who casually murdered random black citizens.

    In the last three years alone, the Democrat-supported #MeToo feminist mobs have used flimsy charges of “sexual harassment” to destroy or severely damage the careers of the top black US economist (Prof. Roland Fryer), the top black physicist (Neil deGrasse Tyson), the dean of the Congressional Black Caucus (John Conyers), the top black TV host (Tavis Smiley), and two of the top black entertainers (Bill Cosby and Morgan Freeman).

    Meanwhile, most Democrat-sponsored anti-poverty programs have failed to lift living standards for urban blacks, and Democrat support for mass immigration has depressed the wages of working class blacks and flooded American cities with Hispanics, who have seized political power from blacks in dozens of cities across America.

    Good work, Caleb. Keep shooting yourself in the foot.

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  • @ Ewart

    Good job. At last you are exposing white racism (and their black fellow travellers).

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  • Looks like the Democrats are going to force an investigation of the Bidens!!!

    They keep saying nothing wrong with Biden but now Graham is asking says who?

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  • The Democrats have made Trump as clean as they possibly could through Mueller’s investigation.

    In so doing the idiots have exposed the Bidens.

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  • From the author of “Clinton Cash” here is “Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America’s Progressive Elite,”

    Looks like Sleepy Joe may not even need to be investigated!!

    https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/how-five-members-of-joe-bidens-family-got-rich-through-his-connections/

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  • Chris Halsall
    January 23, 2020 3:46 PM

    @All… I haven’t been following this thread; I prefer to get my Trump noise filtered through various online (text-based) news outlets. news.google.com is my friend.
    I invested the time to read this article: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/23/bloomberg-attacks-trump-102723
    I finally understand Bloomberg’s strategy. Brilliant! He can do damage using his own money (no need for a Super PAC), and if he doesn’t win the primary he continues with that momentum for whoever does win.
    IMHO, Trump is toast (but then, I said that approximately 45 months ago too…).

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This is the one you should be looking at!!

    Far easier on the eye!!

    We’ll see as the primaries unfold.

    Meanwhile Crazy Bernie, Pocahantas and Klobachar at stuck in the Senate impeachment.

    No PACs also!!

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  • Schiff and Pelosi are up for reelection in 40 days and Nadler in June.

    Wonder if their own party will primary them or if the Republicans can beat them and take 3 seats in Congress.

    Republicans have many incumbents retiring so they aren’t in good shape but we will see.

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  • @ Ewart;

    Re: Certain Women and the Me2 Movement which you describe as a “feminist mob” with their “flimsy charges” of “sexual harassment”.

    What insensitivity! You clearly do a disservice to all innocent, truthful victims of sexual harassment. You also betray an attitude more appropriate for Noah and the days of the Ark than to the present day.

    You also cite some unsavory characters, who are like jail house witnesses. How do these support your argument that I remain on the “DEMOCRATIC” plantation, and thus hostile to Trump. You cite:

    E.g. Cosby – accused by more than 60 women (predominantly white) of rape and sexual assault; convicted of multiple counts of sexual assault; classified as “a sexually violent predator”; compelled to register as a sex offender; a convicted felon currently serving time. Surely, you can cite more reputable sources.

    Morgan Freeman – The eight (8) women who accused him (Morgan Freeman) of sexual harassment among other things and maintaining a “toxic” work place at his production company as well as sexual assault. and sexual misconduct? Did he (80 years old) not have a lengthy affair with his late, murdered step grand daughter, almost 50 years younger?

    Neil Degrasse Tyson accused by 4 women or more of alleged sexual assault, rape, but allowed to keep his job with the American Museum of Natural History. One woman recounted receiving a drink from Tyson, passing out, waking up to find him having oral sex with her, passing out again, then awaking to his allegedly penetrating her, etc, etc. Perhaps, Neil dodged the bullet, unlike Cosby, Weinstein and others.

    Professor Roland Fryer (Harvard), an otherwise “proper negro”, was accused by several women of sexual harassment and seriously unwelcome conduct. Thereafter, Harvard suspended him for several years and closed his lab.

    Simple, Ewart, as your grandmother would have taught you: “don’t eat and sh-in the same place”.

    Ditto Tavis Smiley. Simply, don’t eat and. Shit in the same place. So much for workplace romances.

    I don’t see how these “authorities” help your argument in any way that I continue to reside on some “DEMOCRATIC” plantation. Rather, I have been an Independent for many years, consistent with my belief that we “pick and choose”.

    The bell tolls for Trump, even as it tolls for us lesser mortals. You may not be able to accept this fact, even if the craven Rebup Senate majority will March lock step to prevent his removal from Office. However, it is only a matter of time. Every dog, they say, has his day.

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