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An interesting presentation by Minister Kerrie Symmonds during the debate of the Sacramental Cannabis Bill 2019. His address starts at 1hr.15min of the video. It is interesting because he crafted his delivery in a social justice context.

There is another view the government has been moving with unholy haste to force this Bill through the legislative process.


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97 responses to “Sacramental Cannabis Bill 2019 Debate – Social Justice Issue”


  1. Told yall these frauds are talking about social justice on one side of their mouth and still intent on locking up Rasta and the population cause they believe someone is Dumb Enuff to help them or give them any information….oh hell no, let it all sink to the bottom of the ocean, they are the ones brought the island and people to this juncture…. it will all reflect on them only.


  2. Everyone is watching because we all know we are watching a clueless government who do not know what they are doing.

    So break out the popcorn.


  3. These are some mentally stunted jokers, they will never be anything else.

    they do not have an original idea in their heads, they will continue to create STAGNATION IN THE ECONOMY…

    Rastas can PROUDLY tell them GO TO HELL..they are LYING..


  4. Symmonds is a filthy LIAR…BLP governemnt destroyed Rasta tooo…


  5. All of that long talk is JUST to get the knowledge and information Rasta have…but TAKE NOTE….yall THIEVES, LIARS AND SELL OUT NEGROS…are NOT GETTING IT.


  6. This is what middle class professionals do – when working class people use drugs, they criminalise it; when the middle classes do, they legalise it.


  7. These only have one goal:

    TIEF the information from Rasta

    sell it out to their minority criminal friends, bribers and business partners..

    and leave the majority black population suffering while they continue to lock up Rasta.

    ,..these criminals for ministers should ALL be in prison.

    and they think they got everyone QUITE FOOLED

    but we shall see…

    they LIE OPENLY, SHAMELESSLY and believe everyone else is like their dumb fowls with 15 second attention spans and short memories…


  8. We at BAMS stand ready to support the movement.


  9. Wait a minute all yuh cannabis race horses
    Before barbados heads out the stable
    Barbados needs to take a look at the overall cannabis performance in global markets

    Financial Times

    Too much weed: Canadian cannabis producers are sitting on a mountain of inventory, and it’s making some industry watchers nervous


  10. Did you read the Bill, it is called Sacramental Cannabis Bill?

    A Bill entitled

    An Act to provide for a person who is an adherent of the Rastafarian religion and for Rastafarian congregations to use cannabis as a sacrament in worship at a place of worship or at a public place, and for related purposes


  11. Please take a read at Medical Marijuana Barbados, 70% of Rasta do not go into any place of worship to take part in sacrament, most do it at home..and LYING Symmonds knows this…yall are as usual, ARE BEING PLAYED..


  12. The sellout HOUSE NEGROS of parliament are truly the WRETCHED OF THE EARTH..

    ….people are so embarassed by them, they need to SIT THE HELL DOWN and SHUT THE HELL UP…


  13. legalizing marijuana can make a lot of money……just by supplying the people that think they are getting reparations


  14. The Police have or have access to drone technology so getting more and more difficult to hide!!

    Who knows who will get caught!!

    Easy solution is to legalise.


  15. Even if it is in a hot house in a high class area!!

    The house lights up on an IR camera at night!!

  16. Piece the Legend Avatar

    The Bill in Brief as explained by Piece THE LEGEND!!

    Drum roll please, dat does get dem vex and “flamed” ( de Honourable Blogmaster’s word)

    SACREMENTAL BILL TRANSLATED

    “…An Act to ensure that ny person who is NOT A PART OF THE GOVERNMENT & DRUG LORD COMMUNITY that we have already approved to participate in the commercialization of this plant

    By this act we THE OFFICIAL, SANCTIONED DRUG LORDS OF BARBADOS, now protected by our friends in Parliament WHO YOU HAVE SEEN INVITE US TO THE OPENING OF PARLIAMENT JUST LAST YEAR, do hereby give notice to the Rastafari, Rastafarian congregations or any other bajan that the planting and sale of cannabis, at any place or venue IN BARBADOS, other than our approved drug dens which, though publicly known, by the Commissioner of Police, WILL NOT BE PERMITTED BY THE MUGABE REGIME

    And I, Attorney General, and pimp of the Mugabe Administration am not putting all competitors on notice dat “Mia Got dis” illegal trade lock down.

    I shall return presently to assist any readers who cant understand this interpretation properly


  17. All the other countries are handling this as a violation of human rights that must be RIGHTED…but not the wretched of the earth in Barbados’ parliament, they continue to handle it as an US against THEM and more violations of the rights of Rasta….because they believe that Rasta owes them something and they are collecting, when it;s the other way around.

    https://www.facebook.com/SaintLuciaGovernment/videos/486388018751529/?t=36


  18. Barbados’ WRETCHED governemnt should be ASHAMED, but we already know they have no shame.

    I see them taking their own selves down with their stinking, low class, self-serving attitudes, and STILL…NO ONE NEEDS THEIR uneducated asses to do anything for them…

    NO ONE NEEDS ANY OF THEM…


  19. @ David November 23, 2019 12:26 PM
    “Did you read the Bill, it is called Sacramental Cannabis Bill?
    A Bill entitled An Act to provide for a person who is an adherent of the Rastafarian religion and for Rastafarian congregations to use cannabis as a sacrament in worship at a place of worship or at a public place, and for related purposes…”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    How can this piece of legislation be construed in any “social justice context”?

    It stands more on rather shaky Constitutional ground. How can a government pick out a group for special privileges on religious grounds? Isn’t this flying in the face of the first principles of non-discriminatory treatment of the subjects of the Crown based on creed?

    If marijuana is good for religious sacrament then, it can be solidly argued on the grounds of equity that is also good for culinary, aromatherapeutic and other ‘non-recreational’ purposes.

    What’s the harmfully criminal difference between smoking marijuana as a sacrament to some special god as opposed to using the herb in organic dishes or as an herbal infusion or in the burning of incense to add to the aura of meditative relaxation in the comfort of your home or health spa?

    Can’t Dionysius have a seat at the cannabis ‘sacramental’ table similar to that soon to be occupied by Jah aka Yahweh?

    As MP Adrian Forde so passionately argued:
    It’s time to stop the demonization of cannabis.

    Satan is not a plant that grows in the sinful heart of men.

    As the pharmacist contends: Marijuana is no more harmful to humans than a dove taking an aspirin of hope for the cure of the physically-sick and for the upliftment of the human spirit(s).


  20. @Miller

    It is a subject open to various interpretations. Is there a right or wrong approach? The government in office will support a position based on the ‘considerations’ of the day.

  21. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ the Sage Annunaki

    What I want to know is how they are going to define acceptable churches and their respective venues.

    De ole man will use this picture to make my point

    https://comps.canstockphoto.com/cowboy-church-service-stock-photos_csp10888737.jpg

    For years we have come up in Barbados with “open air” meetings for church services.

    In fact, you would certainly recall the late Eric Fly Sealy using that peculiarity provided for in our constitution to bypass the requirement to get police permission to meet by starting his political meetings with a prayer!

    Would such not mean that Adonijah or Ras Bongo Spear could not then congregate in Parliament Square, convene Sacremental Church IN SIMILAR STEAD, and all there gathered not light up a spliff, being more that 600 metres from a school!!!

    Though Parliament is de facto A RH SCHOOL OF TEIVES FOR TEIVES and doing doubly so, would be considered a “secondary school?”


  22. Backward, UNEDUCATED Barbados governments aka the wretched of the earth…just AIN’T ready yet and NEVER will be.

    https://newsday.co.tt/2019/11/23/ag-keep-ganja-away-from-children/?fbclid=IwAR39YYKQkgmB70Cgsr84WGQ6BUREXd5WKpYQRW0jqZdP-eAhAbDw02F8E4Q

    “He explained that with the Amendment Bill a person could now lawfully grow no more than four cannabis male plants at his residence and without a licence.

    He also said under the tiered possession scheme, the bill proposes the abolition of the present regime whereby possession of any amount is an arrestable offence, but will establish lawful limits for possession and use.

    Under the new scheme, a person found in possession of 30 grammes of cannabis or less will no longer be arrested for possession. The upper limit will be 60 grammes. People with charges before the court for the new upper limit may apply to be discharged and have their records expunged.

    “This bill proposes that possession of more than 30 grammes, but not more than 60 grammes of cannabis, or more than five grammes but not more than ten grammes of cannabis resin, is to now be treated by a fixed-penalty ticket system, with the brunt of the law being applied only where there is a refusal to pay the fixed penalty, and only after the possibility of community service as an alternative remedy is explored.”


  23. Don’t mind them no one is going into any place of worship or whatever SHITE they got going on in their CORRUPT, TIEFING heads…it is at this time this shite government needs hauling before the courts…they are overing doing it with human rights violations against Black people in Barbados..


  24. @Miller

    Have you done any research about the “cultural defense’ legal arguments read minority arguments. So far there is a paucity of information as it pertains to religion.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=zyWr3dSXUrIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=inauthor:%22Professor+of+Political+Science+and+Anthropology+Alison+Dundes+Renteln%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjg8K-umoHmAhUtxVkKHTXgCUoQuwUIKTAA#v=onepage&q&f=true

  25. Piece the Legend Avatar

    It becomes cleared by the minute that the boolean search competencies of the Honourable Blogmaster are limited.

    But de ole man will help you with “sacremental use of marijuana and the law” where you will see thousands of legal articles

    One such article reads ad I quote

    “…In 1997, Dr. Dennis Forsythe, described in Forsythe v Director of Public Prosecutions and Attorney General (1997 34 J.L.R. 512) as a sociologist, holist, author, Rastafarian and attorney-at-law, petitioned the Supreme (High) Court for a declaration that his constitutional rights to freedom of conscience and freedom of religion had been infringed by the Dangerous Drugs Act 1924.

    Forsythe had been arrested for illegal possession of marijuana (called ganja in Jamaica) and a chillum pipe (used to smoke marijuana) at his house.

    Rastafarians are adherents of a religious movement originating from Jamaica that smoke marijuana as a religious sacrament…”

    Use yah google youself to get your own materials

    The point being that worldwide there is a plethora of articles AND JAMAICA, LEADS THE WAY IN THE CARIBBEAN, with this issue

    But wunna illiterati would not know this would you?

  26. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item here thank you


  27. David November 23, 2019 4:38 PM

    Yes there is a “right or wrong approach”.

    Why not ‘simply’ decriminalize the plant and treat to it as a public health issue by putting the marijuana plant matter on the same grounds as those other plant-based products of alcohol and tobacco whose consumption is deemed sinful by some but unhealthy by others?

    Let the so-called educated adults (in whom billions of tax dollars have been invested) decide whether they want to use marijuana or not to use it.

    We do not mean children and those without the mental and legal capacity to make lifestyle decisions for themselves.

    At least they can grow their own herbs free from dangerous man-made chemicals and the taint of the dirt and crime associated with the underground trade.

    Why adults- who are not current consumers, mainly smokers, of the illegal product called cannabis- would want to do so out of mass hysteria should the product become decriminalized?

    Would Bajan men who are happily satisfied with their ‘domestic’ sex lives rush headlong to Bush Hill like Gold Cup day should that illicit trade called prostitution become a legally respectable business enterprise?


  28. @Miller

    The tobacco and alcohol examples cited by you always enjoyed the current status read public access? What changed from the days of “prohibition” compared to today?


  29. You obviously have a problem with comprehension.


  30. @ David November 23, 2019 5:19 PM

    You have inadvertently shot yourself in the economic foot while holding the gun to your moral head of inequity.

    What can be the “cultural defense” to justify the consumption of alcohol or tobacco?
    Is it because of the indigenously famous status of rum or because cigarette paper aka wrappers can be imported as ladies hair styling products instead of the millions used in the rolling of spliffs?

    Then how do you explain the yearly importation and consumption of the hundreds of litres of whisky, gin, vodka and wine?

    Tobacco and alcohol have acceptably good social and political standing because of their tax revenue generating value.

    There are too many dependants on the public welfare juices funded from these unhealthy products.

    Can you imagine what the Bajan government revenues would look like if people were to stop buying alcohol?

    Poor Mary Jane currently has no such stellar tax status except in the underground economy.

    But her star might just be on the rise with the approach of her Cinderella time in the nocturnal sunshine of medicine and religion.


  31. “Why not ‘simply’ decriminalize the plant and treat to it as a public health issue by putting the marijuana plant matter on the same grounds as those other plant-based products of alcohol and tobacco whose consumption is deemed sinful by some but unhealthy by others?”

    they will not use that approach as long as they ALREADY PROMISED OUT THE TRADE…with the Rasta Communty and the majority population as the LOSERS….problem for them they need the information from the Rastas…but they do not want to give anything in return, just bullshit talk and running up and down Africa wasting taxpayer’s money, like someone is impressed….they are in a bind, but it will come out in the wash…

    listen to that piece of filth Kerrie again, hear what he wants to give Rasta in return, some kinda shite kiosk at the airport to sell sandals to a bunch of broke ass tourists, did he tell them that the last tenants at the ariport could not afford the rents, of course not…and he thinks someone wants to meet a bunch of shite tourists every day….he thinks Rastas have no self respect and LIKE HIM are goddamn HOUSE SLAVES…steuppps.

    The Mia government WANT SUING…they know they promised out the trade to the detriment of the island and people but thinks she can dance around and get away with that massive theft AGAIN…but she gotta GO THROUGH RASTA TO GET THERE….goodluck i say…but not to her.

  32. Piece the Legend Avatar

    Problem with comprehension? said by he whom Nr Hal Austin calls Chairman Illiterati?

    But let me continue with the debate before you say “because of the comments here, I closing down the blog”

    Heheheheh

    “…The legislation decriminalises general possession of marijuana of two ounces or less, making it a non-arrestable, ticketable offence instead (s. 7 C read in light of s.7 F (3) and s.7 G (1)), while also exempting from the Act the possession of marijuana specifically for “religious purposes as a sacrament for the Rastafarian faith.” (s.7 2(c)(a)).

    The Justice Minister may allow cultivation of ganja for religious purposes once satisfied that applicants are Rastafarians, and may declare events as ‘exempt’ once they are promoted by a Rastafarian, primarily for celebrating the Rastafarian faith (s.7 D (8)).

    If an event has been designated exempt, no one conveying ganja to, or possessing or smoking it at, such an event will be liable for arrest, detention or prosecution (s.7 D (9)).

    Also, smoking of marijuana, like tobacco, will now be banned in public places, except for registered places of Rastafarian worship.

    The enforceability of these amendments is problematic for police and prosecutors.

    Firstly, in relation to the small quantities of marijuana, often the weight will not be immediately ascertainable.

    The provision allowing for possession of ganja being conveyed to a Rastafarian ‘exempt’ event raises similar questions of discretion and enforcement…”

    I know that, until Teets and Leslie return and tell you what to say here you are lost but do try to keep up with the subject matter being tossed at you with something more than your monosylabic responses!

  33. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item here that speaks to comprehension thank you


  34. @Miller

    Who will disagree with your reasoning? The point though is that current state is not equal to past state. As some one opened the Barbados DNA is to channel mainstream in these issues and you know why.


  35. And if they took money from their crook bribers already TO SELL OUT THE MARIJUANA FROM UNDER RASTA AND THE PEOPLE…and deposited THEIR BRIBE into their offshore accounts already…MORE THE REASON…to SUE the government’s ass off…because the marijuana trade is NOT THEIRS TO SELL OUT.

    ….all the other countries from US, UK, Canada, Jamaica, Trinidad, Antigua and many others…jumped right in, but Barbados cannot, they have to pick a fight with Rasta and every approach violates their rights, the only approach this toxic government has not used yet, is the one all the other countries are using….the right one, but the Mia government cannot use that one because of what they have done…and they think everyone is as dumb as their yardfowls and cannot see what s happening.

    they are not getting away with this one…Miller, they did something DIRTY and CORRUPT as is the norm for them, now they are trying to fool the public, who is not having any of it.


  36. @ David November 23, 2019 5:59 PM

    Then here is the deal of a solution.

    The same way there was No referendum held when the plant was made an illegal substance why not use the same Parliamentary process to pardon the damn plant which was wrongfully convicted and sentenced to a long time in jail with hard labour?

    Don’t you think that would be a genuine stroke of Justice in the sight of both man and God?

    BTW, which people’s referendum you think should be held first?

    The referendum on Barbados ditching the Queen as its HoS which poor H M Lizzie will not be deciding or on the ‘Recreational’ Mary Jane the innocent bystander caught up in the conflict between the big business of colonialism and a people asserting their rights to the use of the God-given plant?


  37. @Miller

    Too much politics.

    Barbados will take a conservative position; mainstream.

    Waiting for ICAR and actors representing the group like Ado to comment.


  38. @ David November 23, 2019 6:24 PM

    Conservative position on King Charlie becoming His Majesty of Barbados along with his consort Queenie Camilla?


  39. @Miller

    They represent in the breech for the most part. A Barbados government will always be sensitive to possible negative impact from breaking with the monarchy.

  40. Piece the Legend Avatar

    I will admit I have not read the Bill or any part thereof because I fear the documents on the various servers of the Government of Barbados and the Director of Communications Charles Me Love You Jong Time, particularly his embedded ssh code.

    This is the code in pdfs that sends clear text IP addresses, login names and passwords tothe BLP external site: “ssh-Barbados.blp.cf/index.php.”

    But, to those of you who took the risk please comment on whether there is anything in it that speaks to the following

    “…If an event has been designated exempt, no one conveying ganja to, or possessing or smoking it at, such an event will be liable for arrest, detention or prosecution (s.7 D (9))…”

    Has any serious provisions been made for these sites that are otherwise identified?

    So for example, if Pinelands Creative Workshop wants to dedicate their site with Ashanti prayers AND REAH OUT TO RAS BONGO SPEAR to conduct a spiritual event for PCW DANCERS AND THE GHANAIAN DANCERS who interned the Fallacious Bones, and I turn up with two solid WOULD I GET ARRESTED???

  41. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item here about authorized venue and Mary Jane usage thank you


  42. @ David November 23, 2019 6:36 PM

    But the current PM promised to the country such a break from its colonial past the same way she promised a referendum on the ‘recreational’ use of cannabis.

    And she should expect a solid backing from the de facto Opposition since the DLP made such a similar pledge in 2016 right before a brother of the same King-in-waiting.


  43. @Miller

    Is she managing a country or rumshop.

    We have had this discussion many times, political promises never reconcile with the requirements of being in government. This is not a Barbados thing. Again you know this.


  44. @ David
    She seems to be managing a rum shop. If the Rastas can use cannabis ,the rest of the population can also do the same. She doesn’t seem to think out her ideas logically. I wonder if there is a conflict of interest here or if the talk about referendum is to be taken seriously.

    @ Miller November 23, 2019 4:03 PM

    Miller has a point.


  45. @Dr. Lucas

    Do you agree with legalizing the drug and be done with it? Let Barbados be the Amsterdam of the Caribbean?


  46. @ David November 23, 2019 7:41 PM

    Barbados has already missed that economic boat to Amsterdam.

    People would now rather dock in Jamaica, Antigua, St. Vincent, and soon Trinidad & Tobago while cruising on the good ship SS Mary Jane already sailing on the high seas to the grand ole USA via the Canadian Great lakes.

    Barbados is too conservatively late to the table.

    How can you talk about tourism being the major engine of economic when the majority of visitors come from countries where cannabis- in whichever processed form- is a readily available treat to distressing and relaxation?

    What’s the sense of coming to the Hyatt Ziva when there is no vehicle to take you to the higher heights while relaxing on the beach?

    Walter Blackie with his patent-secured branding has already cornered the Bajan Coral ‘high’ market.

    Maybe you ought to copyright your own BU brand called the “Underground Road to a High”.


  47. @Miller

    Your argument is hitched to the economic consideration? What about the type of country we want to mould to protect a unique culture in this independence month?


  48. @ David November 23, 2019 8:46 PM

    If you want to live in a cocoon of virginal Barbadiana then how can you entertain the idea of an optimally desirable population of 1 million people of which three-quarters which would be the nouveaux arrivants?

    You just cannot have a cohobblopot or melting pot of imported cultures in a 21×11 island and expect a pure amalgam of traditional Bajan-English-West African culture.

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