Enlightened Rastafari

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Submitted by Grenville Phillips II, Leader of Solutions Barbados

Like many who were teenagers in the 1970s, the Rastafarian idea, promoted through reggae music, was popular. Their claim to follow the teachings of the Bible convinced me that they were not only brothers in humanity, but brothers in faith.

I researched their claims, and was shocked to see “Jah” written in my Bible. During that period of my life, I talked about changing my name from Grenville to I-ville. However, I could not reconcile the idea of Haile Selassie (Ras Tafari) being Christ. So, we diverged on that one, but critical point of faith.

During that time, I used to walk from Combermere School to the QEH after school. My mother worked as a nurse in the paediatrics department, caring for babies. I would sit among the patients waiting for her to finish her work. She would often tell me about the babies of the Rastafarians, who would needlessly suffer because they were fed nuts.

What distressed her was the Rastas’ insistence on feeding their babies nuts, despite the obvious and apparent harm. I think that they have now wised-up, but their current state of enlightenment was no comfort to the babies who suffered unnecessarily, through their stubborn ignorance.

The Rastafarians have made smoking marijuana part of their religious tradition. My primary concern is the safety of their children.

Our lungs are not designed for smoke. That is why we tend to cough it out when exposed. Our bodies are designed to adapt to different environments, even smoke-filled ones. However, we normally pay a health price that may increase with increased exposure to a harmful environment.

Some like to justify unpopular decisions by claiming that we are going where the science takes us. Well, science has proven, beyond doubt, that smoking is very unhealthy for humans. Further, it is extremely harmful to our children.

To have our children exposed to either first-hand or second-hand smoke, is even more irresponsible than feeding babies nuts. It was previously done through pure ignorance. It is now to be done through the irresponsible encouragement of our politicians, whose main goal is a lucrative lifetime pension at the public’s expense.

The decision it legalise marijuana for religious purposes is not a Rastafarian issue, it is one that affects us all. Rastas get to smoke, but the public is burdened with increased taxes to pay for their children’s health costs, and all of the other social costs associated with the abuse of the marijuana plant.

There are two options for addressing this issue. The first is to prostitute for the Rastafarian vote by forcing through poorly thought-out legislation. That seems to be the preferred option for irresponsible politicians.

The second option is to encourage and participate in an honest discussion on achieving a win-win situation, wherever possible. But that will require both sides to be honest.

Some topics that can be put on the table are: Is it mandatory for the marijuana plant to be smoked as part of the ritual – if so, then why? Can it be made into a tea – if not, then why not? Can it be diluted sufficiently so that everyone can drink it without any harmful health effects – if not, then why not?

If our desire is to know the truth, then we should submit claims of truth to honest research. Truth should be able to withstand rigorous scrutiny. I love the Rastafarian community too much to blindly support badly thought out ideas. That they are promoting this as a Rastafarian-only issue means that neither they, not the Attorney General, have properly thought this through.

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer and President of Solutions Barbados. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

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  • One thing we do know, no one is putting you in that parliament to act out all that shite…no one has the time or inclination to educate anyone who has paper knowledge and very little else.

    ya made yaself famous on Medical Marijuana Barbados last night, ya should be proud and can now join the ranks of the ignoramuses who now reside in the parliament…who are not getting anywhere either…and ya know why…because yall are dumb as shite, all of you..

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  • The issue whether to legalize marijuana is contentious all across the globe. It is a Brexit issue, it will split the country down the middle for several well documented reasons. We should debate the issue in a civilized manner. We should respect the opinions of everyone.

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  • Legalize marijuana for medicinal issue has been debated across the globe after much research and medical input
    Legalizing marijuana for ritual or recreational issue gives a concern to how our social enviroment overall would be impacted
    The now debated issue of marijuana for Ritual purpose is a red herring tossed out in barbados society and might also be a political reward given to Rastafarian for their support to govt during the last election
    One day coming soon the whole of barbados socially and economically would pay for this hot and sweaty piece of legislation
    God help us all

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  • How many Rastas number in the voting population of Barbados?

    May God help you to remove your political scales.

    Mia like many in the political class likes to pull in the good stuff, she has the political capital to make it fly.

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  • It’s one thing to debate marijuana , it is quite another to be totally CLUELESS about the Rasta Community, totally CLUELESS about marijuana …confusing both issues with socialized biases, discriminatory attitudes, personal black on black prejudices, condescending utterances …and downright…LACK OF KNOWLEDGE…aka…IGNORANCE…which is and will CONTINUE to be displayed by both Grenville and the jokers in parliament…because that is all they have ever known..the slave mind continues to be a VERY DANGEROUS WEAPON..

    ignorance IS NO EXCUSE…and has NEVER been a reason to respect those who practice such BACKWARDNESS..

    many may not be able to see now, but because of all of the above THERE WILL BE BIGGER PROBLEMS ARISING in these small islands riddled with DELIBRATELY INSTITUED lack of knowledge….a direct spinoff of both governments keeping themselves and the citizens…MISINFORMED and MISEDUCATED…but that’s on them….am only here to point it out..

    Can’t compare this and what is unfolding in UK etc because DESPITE their own level of idiocy..they will be operating from …a knowledegable, FULLY INFORMED BASE….and make sure that they and ALL THEIR CITIZENS are the ones benefitting from the plant…in direct contrast…one has to be very careful STILL…and i mean the vulnerable black populi…with these public nuisances called politicians, lawyers, pretend professionals etc..

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  • Well said.

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  • One vote can make a difference
    Dont come talking political bull sh.ite this morning
    There is yet a law passed in barbados that takes overall society in context without having a political angle attached
    What does this law involved does it have the necessary legal protection that give a right of overall society to be protected from any health risk associated from the smoking of marijuana
    In USA certain religiuos groups are given the right legally to use rituals as part of their cermony
    However govt laws are written within rules and guidlens regulatef to protect society from any negative fall out that these rituals might impact on the social and economic enviroment of the state.
    It is as if these churches can move around society smoking and have a God given right to used the Ritual as a protection against laws written in the protection of the best interest of the country

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  • State laws and goverance in the USA

    Under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), a person / religious entity (claimant) can raise a defense against federal charges for possession of a controlled substance, as well as gain injunctive relief to prevent future charges or governmental seizure of the substance. For a successful RFRA defense, the claimants must demonstrate that they have both a sincere religious practice and that it is being substantially burdened. If the claimant cannot satisfy these two elements, then they can receive no relief under RFRA. However, even if the claimant can satisfy these two elements, they can still be denied relief under RFRA if the government can show that the substantial burden is done in the furtherance of a compelling governmental interest AND the government is using the least restrictive means possible. If the government can satisfy its two elements, then the claimant is denied relief under RFRA.

    READ How the Michigan State
    Sincere Religious Practice

    That raises the question: what is a “sincere religious practice”? According to the statute, a religious practice is any activity that is compelled by or central to a religious belief or any activity engaged in for religious reasons. Given these broad definitions, a claimant is usually able to satisfy this element through some kind of documentation of use of the substance for religious purposes. For example, there is a long history of certain Native American tribes using substances like peyote as part of spiritual ceremonies. The historical record of such practices could be attested to by both group members as well as scholarly anthropological sources. Often though, the sincerity of the religious practice is not even challenged by the government.

    Substantial Burden
    The Supreme Court has said that a religious practice is substantially burdened when one is forced, “under threat of criminal sanction, to perform acts undeniably at odds with fundamental tenets of their religious beliefs.” In cases involving the use of controlled substances, it must be argued that the use of the drug is necessary to the practice of the religion. For example, if the religious organization believes that use of the substance is required in order to connect with the deity, then the believers are in the position where it is necessary to use the controlled substance to practice their religion.

    Compelling Governmental Interest
    The most common governmental interest is protection of public health and safety. This can apply to protecting the health and safety of members of the church, however, preventing the substance from being diverted for use outside of the religious practice often becomes the government’s primary compelling interest. The government then argues that diversion of the controlled substance poses a significant risk to children. Often it is near impossible to refute the government’s interest in protecting public health, especially when it concerns minors.

    Least Restrictive Means
    The government must further its compelling interest through the least restrictive means possible. This means that if the government can further its compelling interest in some way other than enforcing full compliance with the CSA, then the claimant is granted an exception. Often, the nature of the religious organization, the substance and the organization’s practice with the controlled substance will determine if full enforcement is the least restrictive means. In the 2016 RFRA claim by the Hawaii Cannabis Ministry and their use of marijuana, the court decided full compliance with the CSA was the least restrictive means because the church’s fundamental tenets were to celebrate marijuana as a sacrament and to dispense marijuana to church members to use as a sacrament.

    Another factor is the popularity of the substance. Marijuana has a high demand on the black market and that fact makes it much more difficult to win a RFRA claim. In the court’s eyes, the high demand for marijuana increases the likelihood that marijuana could be sold to non-church members or stolen from the church and diverted to the general public. The courts have said that substances like peyote, which do not have as strong of a demand on the black market, are less likely to be diverted to the public which increases the chances of a successful RFRA claim.

    If the government’s compelling interest is to prevent marijuana from reaching the general public, there is often no alternative way of promoting that other than full compliance with the Controlled Substances Act.

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  • Grenvillle wants to play in the big leagues, well ya in the big leagues now, so get on with it.

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  • This is a law purposed with a political angle which will have the same uncontrollable effect as that which thrives within the squatting community
    One concern of certainty would be those in the rasta community in neighbouring islands looking at this law as as opportunity to ply their trade of “ritual marijuana” in barbados
    This law can open many unwanted doors with negative effects on barbados social enviroment

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  • Listen…ya done know if i did not catch those two words Adriel Nitwit let slip when he was LOOKING DOWN on the Rastas like Adonijah and those guys he did not even want to meet with 2 years ago, he did not even want to be seen with any Rastas…he totally disrespected them and in public. …that yall with ya funky selves would still be sitting on that 28 year old AMENDED MARIJUANA LEGISLATION…

    STILL not saying a word to the people..

    .. still pretending marijuana was the worse thing in the world

    … STILL locking up ya own people for it, while smoking it and some selling it too..

    …..then yall and Verla and all the OTHER HYPOCRITES…once US, UK, Canada etc legalized and let your slave minds off the hook…would then RUSH OUT to pretend ya are halfassed heros and heroines, doing the Black population A HUGE FAVOR..as Mia is now miserably attempting…BUT SPECTACULARLY FAILING..

    …yall would have done the same low crawling thing…remember…the dangerous slave mind..

    Ya ask Verla yet WHY she still have not honored what she said she would do when Adriel Nitwit was AG and she a Senator….ya should ask her what made her backtrack.

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  • And Grenville can’t even say i don’t like him, because i warned him first..lol

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  • Even as one branch of the Abrahamic religious community seeks legal sanction for ritual cannabis use, Christian evangelical leaders have denounced the move, declaring it a ‘gateway’ to full legalisation.
    Pentecostal preachers declared they were not in support of Attorney General Dale Marshall’s announcement in Parliament on Tuesday that the legislation was coming because it was the right of the Rastafarian community to use the drug for sacramental purposes, in accordance with guarantees under the Bill of Rights in the Constitution of Barbados that protect religious freedom.(Quote)

    This is the unqualified nonsense that passes as knowledge in Barbados. Plse tell me, as I obviously missed it, when did Rastafari become an Abrahamic religion?
    That was written by Anesta Henry and was passed by the subs, assistant editors and editor. Some people will say just scroll by and ignore it. Welcome to Barbados, with 98 per cent literacy.

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  • All yuh too funny! The rastas smoking gine kill them children but all yuh say naffin bout the carbon emissions pizuning children daily, because all yuh love all yuh big rides. A comedyfest! Not to mention Former Senior Editor lambasting Ms.Henry for calling Rastafarianism an Abrahamic religion.🤣🤣

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  • But then again, one of the resident experts thinks redeveloping land along one of Bridgetown’s busiest streets for housing is a spectacular idea.🤣🤣

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  • @ Enuff

    I know your great career achievement so far has been chairing a meeting when you were the only black person in the room (presumably apart from the cleaners, waiters, and messengers). Wow!
    Are you now saying that Rastafarianism is an Abrahamic religion? Yes or no. For the record, I was not ‘lambasting’ Anesta Henry, but was pouring scorn on her line managers, including the editor. In case you do not know, copy has to go through a number of hands before it is published.

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  • @ Nextparty246:
    “If our desire is to know the truth, then we should submit claims of truth to honest research. Truth should be able to withstand rigorous scrutiny…”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So why are you not calling for the banning and criminalization of the smoking of tobacco?

    It’s a well researched ‘fact’ that smoking tobacco is bad for human health and a major burden on some countries’ health services.

    So what’s your position on tobacco which can be easily bought by any adult from most retail outlets in Barbados?

    Why not call for equal treatment for both ‘sins’?

    We will leave the alcohol debate for another occasion.

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  • Rastafarianism is an “Afro-Caribbean” offshoot of Judaism; just like Christianity and Islam in all their various expressions aka schisms and cults.

    After all Abraham, himself a married man, impregnated an Egyptian slave girl who produced Ishmael (the father of Islam) and was never punished by YHWH or Jah for this awful sin.

    If we can accept Islam as a ‘legitimate’ Abrahamic faith why not the Caribbean bastard Rastafarianism.

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  • Have you ever gone to a doctor for help and left feeling more confused or hopeless than you did before the appointment?

    Maybe:
    • The doctor didn’t really listen to what you were saying.
    • You felt rushed, like the doctor didn’t really have time to answer your questions.
    • Your concerns about medication or diagnosis were dismissed.
    • You didn’t get to the root cause of the issue—you just got a prescription.

    WELL THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL WHEN I READ THE RUBBISH THAT GPII WRITES LOT OF WORDS, BUT AS USUAL, NO SOLUTIONS FROM MR SOLUTIONS WITH NO SOLUTIONS FOR BARBADOS

    And this is why more and more people are turning away AWAY FROM FROM MR SOLUTIONS WITH NO SOLUTIONS FOR BARBADOS

    If you’ve been let down by THE BLP DLP DUOPOLY, I WARN YOU THAT MR SOLUTIONS HAS NO SOLUTIONS FOR BARBADOS

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  • IT IS WRITTEN IN Jeremiah 2:13

    For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

    FOLLOWING GRENVILLE PHILLIPS WHOSE SOLUTIONS BARBADOS HAS NO SOLUTIONS FOR BARBADOS IS LIKE HEWING broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

    I HAVE TO AGREE WITH WARU
    HERE

    One thing we do know, no one is putting you in that parliament …no one has the time or inclination to ELECT anyone who has paper knowledge and very little else

    IT SEEMS MY DEAR FRIEND GRENVILLE PHILLIPS THAT THE :WRITING IS ON THE WALL!”
    YOU ARE BEING WEIGHED IN THE BALANCE AND YOU ARE CONSISTENTLY BEING FOUND TO BE WANTING

    watch now friends
    give a drum roll for the entrance of his attack dog and only apologist stage right

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  • Hal
    I never said one word about whether you or Miss Henry is right. I just found it funny. Now carry on with your exposition on what is Abrahamic and why rastafarianism isn’t Christianity and therefore does not qualify as being Abrahamic.

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  • @ Enuff November 8, 2019 9:28 AM

    We are seeing eye-to-eye on this one even though we serve different gods.

    Of course Rastafarianism is not Christianity. But both are rooted in the Old Testament of Judaism where Yahweh or Jah is the focal point of adoration and worship

    That makes them either brothers or cousins (like Islam or even the Bahá’í Faith) on the wheel of religions of the world.

    Rastafarianism is to Judaism as Mormonism is to Catholicism.

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  • Hal
    “I know your great career achievement so far has been chairing a meeting…”

    MeetingS, plural!! If you’re gonna be condescending at least be factual.🤣🤣🤣

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  • Enuff

    Apologies. Meetings. So quite clearly you must have been very good at what you did. By the way, to lambast is to be highly critical of someone……you still have not answered the question: Is Rastafarianism an Abrahamic religion, yes or no?
    Plse take time out to consult the all-white delegates at your meetings.

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  • Always diving to the trivial.

    Steuspe

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ Grenville II ,

    A well argued case for consideration of the downsides of decriminalization of Marijuana for medicinal and sacramental purposes.
    What is the State doing legislating what is sacramental? Is not the State forbidden to legislate on matters religious? Especially harmful sacraments?

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  • The only sensible solution is to legalize marijuana and allow the market forces and other entities to dictate the peculiarities of the legalization.
    There is no empirical evidence that marijuana does more societal damage than rum drinking or cigarette smoking. Also, there is no empirical evidence that marijuana smoking costs the health services anymore than rum drinking, pollution and cigarette smoking.
    We have political parties serving alcohol to minors at their political gatherings. We have young people who cannot vote going to fetes and drinking hundreds of gallons of rum and other alcoholic beverages.
    Once more politicians who have no philosophy or strength of any convictions are refusing to give proper leadership on this issue.The usual symptoms of the Duopoly.
    Legalize it and let the market take care of the rest. Let the farmers decide if they want to plant and make it profitable. Don’t allow this most viable cash crop to be controlled by a select few
    Legalize it now!!!

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  • Vincent Codrington

    Mariposa at 6:26 AM

    What an erudite submission! Can we depend on more submissions from you at this level?

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ William Skinner

    Do you not know that Marijuana is only valuable because of its scarcity?
    Have you not paid attention to President Obama’s advice to his Jamaican brethren some 3 years ago on where the profitability of this plant will accrue? Which countries have rushed to plant and process this holy weed? Backed up by advanced technology,equipment and marketing?
    William, you need to walk circumspectly. I thought you understood the Game Plan.

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  • @ Vincent Codrington

    I know the “ game plan” that’s why I am not into their games- just legalize the marijuana .

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  • FREEDOM BELIEVES THE RASTAFARIANS ARE BEING USED AS A PLOY TO OPEN THE GATE TO THE RECREATIONAL USE OF MARIJUANA UNDER THE GUISE OF A SPIRITUAL RITUAL. I IMAGINE THAT THE SMALL PERCENTAGE OF RASTAFARIANS WILL INCREASE DRAMATICALLY IN THAT CASE.

    THAT SAID I DO BELIEVE 100 % IN MEDICINAL MARIJUANA IN THE FORM OF CANNABIS OIL!

    RATIONAL OBSERVATION ARE THE HARMFUL CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS BY THE SECOND HAND SMOKE TO CHILDREN … GP11,“Some like to justify unpopular decisions by claiming that we are going where the science takes us. Well, science has proven, beyond doubt, that smoking is very unhealthy for humans. Further, it is extremely harmful to our children.”…

    PRESCRIPTION DRUGS KILL ABOUT 100,000 PEOPLE IN THE WORLD EACH YEAR. OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY USING MARIJUANA MEDICINALLY?

    “There are no deaths from cannabis use. Anywhere. You can’t find one,” said Dr. Lester Grinspoon, professor emeritus at Harvard Medical School.

    Yet, the facts remain: Prescription drugs, while legal, are experimental, dangerous and often toxic. Prescription drugs continue to kill tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, each year; meanwhile, marijuana has never been the direct contributor to a single death. Maybe we should focus less on making natural plants extinct and focus more on controlling the drugs that we’re actually responsible for.

    Medical marijuana may be beneficial for everyone’s health, but it’s not very healthy for the pockets of the pharmaceutical companies. The pharmaceutical industry is the biggest industry with powerful connections in high places. Pharmaceutical companies don’t want you growing your own medicine.”

    “The prime motivation behind any drug company is to make money, and as much money as possible. In the case of a synthetic compound, if it’s only an ingredient from the cannabis, they can formulate that as a drug and make a lot more money off of it.”

    Since no company can patent a plant, pharmaceutical industries are incentivized to keep cannabis and industrial hemp illegal as they try to recreate the same drug with the same effects. Obviously, there is a great deal of “double talk” in this argument – How can the government prohibit marijuana but allow an identical drug with identical effects? – but ultimately, it comes down to money.

    Medical Marijuana:

    Marijuana will grow well in the type of soil and conditions we have. Medical marijuana is the plant without the THC the ingredient that makes one high. To grow this we will need to process it to the stage of the oil and tablet form, not export the raw material. We want the value add to remain in Barbados. This type of item will be in greater demand all over the world while the rest of the world concerns itself with decriminalising the use of high THC marijuana for smoking. The medical uses for this type of marijuana have greater access to the world for a host of illnesses. This is the plant with great future use in the medical industry and would have a premium value attached to it.

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  • SINCE 2003, RICK SIMPSON FREELY PROPOSED HIS CANNABIS OIL TO MORE THAN 5000 PATIENTS WHICH SUFFERED FROM DIVERSE DISEASES such as cancer, diabetes, melanoma, leukaemia, chronic pain, warts, viral and bacterial infections…with convincing results. Rick stated that 70% of the patients that followed his treatment were healed from cancer, by consuming 60g of high-quality cannabis oil.

    HEMP OIL IS THE PUREST FORM OF CONCENTRATED CANNABIS. Taken by drops orally, unlike Cannabis that is Smoked, it is not Carcinogenic or Addictive.

    THE TREVOR SMITH STORY: HOW HE BEAT BLADDER CANCER NATURALLY WITH CANNABIS OIL

    Trevor Smith, 54, was diagnosed with bladder cancer in 2012. After learning about cannabis oil online he began taking it along with diet changes for his cancer.

    http://www.cureyourowncancer.org/trevor-smiths-story-how-he-beat-bladder-cancer-naturally-with-cannabis-oil.html

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  • @ MR SOLUTIONS WITH NO SOLLUTIONS

    I WASTED A FEW MINUTES READING ENLIGHTENED RASTAFARI, BUT CAN MAKE LITTLE SENSE OF THIS DIATRIBE AND VERBAL DIARHHOEA BY MR SOLUTIONS WITH NO SOLUTIONS FOR BARBADOS.

    RE During that time, I used to walk from Combermere School to the QEH after school. My mother worked as a nurse in the paediatrics department, caring for babies.

    SO YOUR MOTHER IS A NURSE? SO WHAT? HOW IS THAT RELEVANT TO ANYTHING?

    RE What distressed her was the Rastas’ insistence on feeding their babies nuts, despite the obvious and apparent harm.

    PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS THE obvious and apparent harm HERE. ENLIGHTEN US.

    RE I think that they have now wised-up, but their current state of enlightenment was no comfort to the babies who suffered unnecessarily, through their stubborn ignorance.

    DID YOU ACTUALLY RESEARCH AND DOCUMENT THIS?
    CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE THIS RESEARCH?

    RE To have our children exposed to either first-hand or second-hand smoke, is even more irresponsible than feeding babies nuts. It was previously done through pure ignorance. It is now to be done through the irresponsible encouragement of our politicians, whose main goal is a lucrative lifetime pension at the public’s expense.

    IS THIS WHY YOU GOT INTO POLITICS? PLEASE KINDLY INDICATE HOW YOU DIFFER FROM OTHER POLITICIANS IN THIS REGARD. JUST ASKING POLITELY

    RE There are two options for addressing this issue. The first is to prostitute for the Rastafarian vote by forcing through poorly thought-out legislation. That seems to be the preferred option for irresponsible politicians. WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT WHEN THE PERCENTAGE OF RASTAFARIANS IN THE POPULACE IS VERY SMALL?

    RE That they are promoting this as a Rastafarian-only issue means that neither they, not the Attorney General, have properly thought this through.
    IT SEEMS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT I AM PERCEIVING POVERTY OF THOUGHT

    LOT OF WORDS, BUT AS USUAL, NO SOLUTIONS FROM MR SOLUTIONS WITH NO SOLUTIONS FOR BARBADOS

    LOT OF WORDS, BUT AS USUAL, NOT MUCH REAL USEFUL CONTENT FOR ONE SEEKING to play in the big leagues, AS WURA OPINES well ya in the big leagues now, so get on with it. LOL murdah

    one of your two ardent apologists has already come to work today here today…….where is the other one?

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  • Hal
    Let me saaaaaay ittttt sloooooowlllllly, I don’t give 2 RHs if it is Abrahamic or not. Go annoy Anesta Henry. Like Miller, however, I believe it is of Judaic origins, after all don’t they reference the Christian Bible. Stupse!

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  • David:

    You wrote: “We should debate the issue in a civilized manner. We should respect the opinions of everyone.”

    That is to ask an impossibility, for a bad tree evidently cannot bear good fruit.

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  • Grenville…despite numerous warnings, even from those on MMB..you are the one blew yourself up, you were WARNED by myself and OTHERS…to do more research before coming out with ya chest all puffed up …bedroom bully style to spew discriminatory. degrading and demeaning shite at people who look JUST LIKE YOU…and ya refused…that’s on you…

    …..so blame no one else..

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  • RE “We should debate the issue in a civilized manner. We should respect the opinions of everyone.”
    SO WHY CANT MY OPINIONS BE RESPECTED, BECAUSE I AS AN EDUCATED MAN CAN REASON AND DEBATE TOO, AND
    NOT NECESSARILY ACCEPT YOUR BOVINE EXCREMENT?

    RE That is to ask an impossibility, for a bad tree evidently cannot bear good fruit.

    WHAT IS BAD FRUIT? OPINIONS THAT CONTRADICT YOURS? YOU SOUND LIKE A CRY BABY!

    IS THE BOWLING TOO FAST? ARE TOO MANY YORKERS AND BOUNCERS BEING BOWLED?
    CAN YOU PLAY SPIN THEN?

    DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT WHEN YOU COME ON BU YOU MAY BE CHALLENGED?
    WHY COME IN THE LION’S DEN UNLESS YOU ARE DANIEL?
    WHY JUMP IN THE FIERY FURNACE WITH OUT AN ADEQUATE DEFENSE?
    WHY PULL THE TAIL OF A TIGER?

    IF YOU CANT MANAGE THE HEAT……..RUN OFF TO MUMMY LIKKLE BOY
    YOU ARE IN THE BU RUM SHOP
    SHARE A MALT OR A PLUS WID ME CAUSE I DONT DRINK

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  • PROVERBS 8:13 KJV

    THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS TO HATE EVIL: PRIDE, AND ARROGANCY, AND THE EVIL WAY, AND THE FROWARD MOUTH, DO I HATE.

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  • fortyacresandamule

    Too much unprotected sex brings with it a huge cost and burden to the society than marijuana smoking to say the least. Go figure.

    The one thing I admire the most about the rasta, is at least, their god is a black man and in their own imagine. And not your white looking european saviour that adorned all the black churches on the continent and in the diaspora.

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  • @ nextparty246 November 8, 2019 12:06 PM
    “That is to ask an impossibility, for a bad tree evidently cannot bear good fruit.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So how then do you explain or rationalize the conversion of Saul to Paul?

    Even GPs can see the Light and find workable and curable solutions to the myriad problems plaguing Barbados.

    You cannot be so hypocritical as to condemn the use of cannabis while turning a blind eye to the widespread sale and use of alcohol and tobacco in the ‘Christian’ country called Barbadoes.

    Why not call for the criminalization of alcohol similar to what pertains to devout Muslim societies with the same zealous approach you took in your evangelical proposal to control the watching of porn by adult Bajans.

    You are nothing but a church-going hypocrite with a bedroom police mentality, Grenville!

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  • BE WATCHFUL AND BEWARE AS EVIL/DECEPTION/LIES/UNBRIDLED EMOTIONS ABOUND.

    A WORD OF CAUTION AND HOPE:

    When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
    And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
    Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. (Luke 11:24–26)

    When we have repented of evil it is not enough to say I have cleaned myself up. We must fill our lives with good things, His spirit etc., otherwise the other spirit/actions/behaviours/beliefs that we have cleansed from ourselves may return and bring even greater evils on ourselves, times seven.

    WE ARE WITNESSING THIS CORRUPT FRUIT DISPLAYED HERE RELENTLESSLY!

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  • @Enuff

    Plse cool down. White delegates at your all-white conferences, your great career achievement, will not like a negro getting hysterical. You know what they say about black men and their temper – and cut out the obscenity. So they reference the Christian Bible, so they are Abrahamic; is that your answer? Say it politely.

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  • Muhammad your bête noire

    (Quote):
    So they reference the Christian Bible, so they are Abrahamic; is that your answer? Say it politely. (Unquote)
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It is precisely the ‘fact’ that the Rastafarian religion adheres to the precepts of the Judean Old Testament that makes them Abrahamic in origin.

    Even the white British Christian people recognize that and celebrate such through the publications of the “Festival Shop” and other media promoting the universality of mankind.

    So why can’t you, a mock black Englishman?

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  • “The one thing I admire the most about the rasta, is at least, their god is a black man and in their own imagine. And not your white looking european saviour that adorned all the black churches on the continent and in the diaspora.”

    wuh i am here sincerely hoping that the UK and Europe are paying attention if not admiring their CENTURIES OLD handiwork of DESTRUCTION of the BLACK MIND….which is so clear for everyone to see…

    with BarbadosFOR CENTURIES being the clearing house for slaves where it is STRONGEST AND EVEN MORE EVIDENT……..for those who can see we are actually SEEING…what they did.

    the other DAMAGED MINDS in the minority community are nothing more than collateral damage, not even worth caring about, too few of them……but look at the monsters the UK and Europe created in the majority black population…and the irony is that they mostly present themselves as the damn leaders…..all of which needs to be DISMANTLED…that is the best reparations that can be offered to the African descendant in the Caribbean to date….REVERSING THE DESTRUCTION OF THE BLACK MIND.

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  • The most serious problem associated with recreational use of Marijuana is the criminal activities and resultant violence. Decriminalisation may help to reduce these problems. That said I very strongly advise persons to stay away from recreational use of marijuana. It is clear to me that such use is very likely to be harmful to one’s health.

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  • On Barbados Today in an article entitled Evangelical wrath by Anesta Henry (cf
    http://epaper.barbadostoday.bb/html5/reader/production/default.aspx?pubname=&pubid=87ad6005-1972-4d63-92b0-8927eda53c7a) we read the interesting opinions of a number of the Christian evangelical leaders in our religious community, who have denounced the move that seeks legal sanction for ritual cannabis use

    Of course none of these Christian evangelical leaders are seeking the favour of the populace at the polls, so one assumes that they feel free to preach the word, in season and out of season, and to do so fearlessly, faithfully and fervently. After all THEY NOT BEGGING NUH BODY FUH DEM VOTE (no pun intended).

    That being the case one can fully understand their stand or position. You may disagree with them, but their positions are clear.

    We read that “Pentecostal preachers declared they were not in support of Attorney General Dale Marshall’s announcement in Parliament on Tuesday that the legislation was coming because it was the right of the Rastafarian community to use the drug for sacramental purposes, in accordance with guarantees under the Bill of Rights in the Constitution of Barbados that protect religious freedom.” We read also that “The evangelists were united in the view that the move was a gateway to legalising marijuana for recreational purposes.”

    Is not Mr Solutions with NO SOLUTIONS FOR BARBADOS A Christian evangelical leader or a Pentecostal preacher too? How is it then that he is talking rubbish and does not have a crystal clear position like Pastor Hal Cumberbatch, of Restoration Ministries who asserts that “We have to go by the word of God if we claim that Christ is in us.
    “And I don’t see anywhere in the word of God that we should indulge in marijuana or smoking. “Smoking [abuses] the body to begin with and we are not to abuse the body.
    “Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit and we must keep our bodies holy.”

    You may not agree with Pastor Hal Cumberbatch, but he is A MAN, who has made his position clear based on his understanding of the Bible for he is not a WIMP seeking the favour of the populace at the polls, and therefore not afraid to offend the voters. Uh lie?

    Apostle Elesius Joseph, senior pastor at Apostolic Teaching Centre, declared there was no scientific evidence that suggested that using marijuana for sacramental purposes would provide medicinal benefits for Rastafarians, and that the community has long considered cannabis as an integral part of their sacramental rites.
    He also said that “ he believed that marijuana use also led to other illicit drugs.” And that: “Once you open it for religious use, who can define that the person who is using it, is using it for religious use and not for recreational purpose?
    “Once you do that, there are obviously no barriers to control it, or no opportunities to regulate it.“Once you open it for religious use you remove all regulations.”
    He further asserted that “ that marijuana was a troublesome drug for young people that has affected their lives in several ways, including their neurological and psychological growth” and that “When it is used for medicinal purposes it is regulated by a doctor.
    “The amount and how often it is prescribed will be regulated.“But when somebody uses it for religious and recreational purposes there is no monitoring process.”

    You may not agree with Apostle Elesius Joseph, but he is A MAN, who has made his position clear based on his understanding of the Bible, and even science for he is not a WIMP seeking the favour of the populace at the polls, and therefore not afraid to offend the voters. Uh lie?

    Apostle Dr David Durant of Restoration Ministries, a former senator, declared he was not only opposed to Rastafarians using the drug for religious purposes, but added that he would strongly advocate against “any other religion using it”.“So I would ask that we be very cautious in going ahead.

    Here is another Christian evangelical leader and Pentecostal preachers who is very clear about the issue, and who because they are not seeking the favour of the populace at the polls, feels free to preach the word, in season and out of season, and to do so fearlessly, faithfully and fervently, since THEY NOT BEGGING NUH BODY FUH DEM VOTE (no pun intended).

    You may disagree with all of these BIBLE MEN, but their positions are clear.

    In the article, we even had the opinion of a female preacher- something Granville endorses. This is her crystal clear opinion.

    Reverend Thelma Greaves from Deliverance Temple House of Prayer said that while marijuana’s medicinal benefits had been proven scientifically, it should also be acknowledged that “it has bad effects too”.

    Reverend Greaves said what bothered her most was how would it be determined that marijuana would be used for religious beliefs, and not misused.
    She said: “I very much fear actually that this is a gateway to the legalisation of recreational marijuana and that is going to be devastating for the youth.
    “Recent research has shown that if you take marijuana before the age of 16, it has the capacity and the ability to damage your brain cells for ever.

    Why is it that all these Christian evangelical leaders in our religious community who are not seeking votes have spoken out clearly, but would be MOSES, GP II rambling and vacillating and talking nonsense as though he has a blockage some where in the area of his circle of Willis?

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  • Ah take it UK and Europe should at THIS POINT be saying how they really feel about their brainwashed IDIOTS in the churches making an already VERY BAD SITUATION..even WORSE…

    …..these particular ones or even TOO DUMB TO BE CALLED NEGROS….or even to exist

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  • fortyacresandamule

    “Reversing the destructing of the black mind, the best reparation” couldn’t agree with you more WARU. A profound statement indeed.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal AustinNovember 8, 2019 1:21 PM “so they are Abrahamic.”

    Yup.

    Rastafari is an Abrahamic religion, born in the Middle East and like all Abrahamic religions, Roman Catholicism, the various “Prostestant” faiths, Islam, Rastafari; ALL these religions born in the Middle East of the Abrahamic tradition are ALL misogynistic as hell.

    I try to steer clear, especially of male believers of the Abrahamic traditions.

    Because typically they, especially the true-true male believers act as though we are all still back in the day of Abraham, and truthfully I have no wish to live the way people lived 5,000 or more years ago.

    That is my truth.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Grenville Phillips “Is it mandatory for the marijuana plant to be smoked as part of the ritual – if so, then why?”

    I hope that you know that we Anglicans not only have alcohol in church every Sunday, but we also have smoke (incense) at our services.

    I don’t know if this combination of alcohol and smoke (something like in an old time rum shop) is good for Anglican health.

    Is it?

    If alcohol+smoke is bad, should we ban them or would that be unconstitutional?

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @EnuffNovember 8, 2019 7:53 AM “but all yuh say naffin bout the carbon emissions pizuning children daily, because all yuh love all yuh big rides.”

    Take note: No big ride here. I walk most places, or do a little business with my good ZR men.
    Don’t smoke neither. Tried tobacco once and said to myself “Self, why you taking good money and burning it?” Never smoked since. Yes I am cheap. Never tried herb, was never curious enough to do so, although I once found a bigable 10 foot marijuana plant growing on my premises.

    But I do enjoy my little incense smoke pun Sundays.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @MillerNovember 8, 2019 8:30 AM “If we can accept Islam as a ‘legitimate’ Abrahamic faith why not the Caribbean bastard Rastafarianism.”

    So you think that i will let you get away with calling Rastafari a bastard?

    Rastafari is no more a bastard than any other Middle Eastern religion, including Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

    None are bastard religions.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @DavidNovember 8, 2019 10:35 AM “Always diving to the trivial. Steuspe.”

    Ya killin’ me den.

    Lol

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  • SS WHICH ANGLICAN CHURCH DO YOU ATTEND?
    ARE THE SERVICES “HIGH CHURCH”

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @fortyacresandamuleNovember 8, 2019 1:03 PM “Too much unprotected sex brings with it a huge cost and burden to the society.”

    Two HEALTHY people having unprotected sex do not cost society anything, nor is it burdensome to society. The “worse” that can happen when two people have unprotected sex is that a pregnancy may occur. Isn’t pregnancy a good thing, especially in Barbados where both the DLP and the BLP believe that our population is growing too slowly?

    Didn’t we ALL come here as a result of “unprotected” sex between our parents?

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @GPNovember 8, 2019 5:29 PM “SS WHICH ANGLICAN CHURCH DO YOU ATTEND?
    ARE THE SERVICES “HIGH CHURCH”

    I won’t say.

    But “yes” high church.

    I like high church, even though I cannot sing.

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  • @ Freedom Crier November 8, 2019 11:22 AM

    “There are no deaths from cannabis use. Anywhere. You can’t find one,” said Dr. Lester Grinspoon, professor emeritus at Harvard Medical School.”

    Where is the proof for the above by the goodly gentleman? In science one never makes dogmatic statements, The goodly doctor is saying that because he is unaware of a fact, then that fact doesn’t exist. I hope you presented the above statement in a tongue-in-cheek manner, because basically, the statement is pure bs.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    Simple Simon

    GP asked about High Church NOT high notes? What does singing have to do with it?

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  • fortyacresandamule

    @SS. Every action has negative consequences. There is no free lunch. Engaging in unprotected sex can lead to:

    contracting STDs
    Question of paternity-who is your daddy?
    Birthing unwanted children
    Increase in the single parent household population

    All of the above has a cost to the society .

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  • I am totally against the feeble excuse about legalizing weed for “religious purposes.”

    Who will dictate what is deemed as religious purposes?

    Secondly who will dictate who is or is not a religious rasta?

    Will there be an island wide register kept for who is a church going Rasta?

    How long will it take for non Rasta weed smokers to challenge this new law in the high court as being prejudicial to their rights?

    Honest to God it wouldn’t hurt for some to think little bit before they open the blasted mouth and put both feet in it!

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  • The desire to increase the population is for the country to have a larger workforce. It will eventually lead to cheaper Labour. Once more we are jumping into comparing our country with other countries, in this case Singapore. We are constantly throwing ill-conceived policies at the wall and hoping for something to stick.
    Simple question: What is the real end game in pushing for a larger population?
    There is a perennial policy madness running amok in the Duopoly.

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  • Q re Simple Simon GP asked about High Church NOT high notes? What does singing have to do with it?

    A everything!

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  • Hemp is better than cannabis .
    Reasons:
    1)very low levels of THC(0.2-0.3%) compared to cannabis.
    2) Hemp can have up to about 20% level of cannabidiol (CBD), CBD can be extracted for medicinal purposes.
    3) Food :Hemp seeds are very nutritious. One seed contains 25% more protein and more omega-3 oils than walnuts.
    4) Clothings can be made from hemp.
    5) Animal Feeds.
    6) biofuel for cars.
    7) Building Materials- hemp is toxin free, virtually fireproof, and pest resistant.
    8) hemp plastics.
    9) hemp can be used to make paper.

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  • Marijuana is the female species of the cannabis plant and has a concentration of THC that provides
    the “high” that recreational drug users are seeking. Hemp however, is the male species of the cannabis plant and has a minute level of THC that cannot make a person feel high after consumption. In fact, if male hemp plants are grown too close to female marijuana
    plants fertilization will occur resulting in a sharp decline of THC content in the marijuana plants. Thus, making it impossible to successfully hide marijuana in hemp crops

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  • Educate, educate, educate..

    forget the useless fame and wealth seeking politicians and the even more useless sheeple and money collecting church leaders…they are imps and frauds created/sent to distract you and SPECIFICALLY TO keep the Black populi from RISING TO AND REALIZING THEIR FULL POTENTIAL..

    The volumes of information out there on the plant is truly impressive….don’t allow misinformed KNOW-IT-ALLS…..with their cast in concrete enslaved minds to mislead you with their hypocrisy and DECEIT…chase them away from you and your future generations…seek the truth and knowledge, it is available.

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  • As i said, anything the UK and other leading countries do regarding Marijuana will be DONE from a WELL INFORMED POWER BASE…and not just on any adhoc nuisance displays of know it all ism and stupidity based SOLELY on some kinda BACKWARD INGRAINED brainwash philosophy….oozing out of the useless churches and ignorant uninformed people

    Just look at these beautiful plants…let’s see if the public nuisances in governemnt copy this POSITIVE from UK and Europe or try to twist it into some kinda punishment and discrimination against their own Black people.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/nov/03/medical-cannabis-uk-clinical-trial-patients-nhs?fbclid=IwAR1XfqSdPw7Wa6CY75crjkLAHAWJiRYkbFN4uEqKBWc1qeUDO72lT2NUkFo

    “Up to 20,000 patients in the UK are to be given medical cannabis over a two-year period in an initiative that aims to create the largest body of evidence on the drug in Europe.”

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  • There is going to be a referendum on the matter. I expect the result will be no.

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  • That is how you start…YOU CLOWNS…you make sure you are ARMED WITH EVIDENCE of what marijuana can do to help people …you do not try to guess…even if it takes 2 years of clinical trials..but you will have your PROOF..

    it is ya only STARTING POINT…wuh if UK did not publish that info, ah would never have said anything just like yall love to do YOUR people.

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  • “There is going to be a referendum on the matter. I expect the result will be no.”

    If it is a no, this stupid goevrnment will rue the day…because ya cannot hold a true referendum..UNLESS YA EDUCATE THE PEOPLE FIRST…about what they have ALREADY BEEN MISEDUCATED ABOUT…..we already know that they know that the people will vote no a referendum…based SOLELY on all the decades of lies and misinformation government is responsible, both of them, for releasing into the public about the plant…but let them bring it on..

    it will just give me another go at them..

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  • @Dr Lucas

    A good guess. The younger segment will vote yes. The concern of this blogmaster is how do we manage the social element that comes from decriminalization given the fact we are an undisciplined society.

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  • @ SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife November 8, 2019 5:17 PM
    “So you think that i will let you get away with calling Rastafari a bastard?
    Rastafari is no more a bastard than any other Middle Eastern religion, including Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
    None are bastard religions.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So you agree, then, that Rastafarianism is a ‘legitimate’ member of the Abrahamic family of faiths?

    Good! Now go and preach that to the ‘idiot’ living in London pretending to be the No.1 ‘know-it-all of BU’.

    Btw way, when are you going to include Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Shinto and other religions from the East, North, South and West of God’s ‘blue’ planet called Earth in your pantheon of religions to sit at the table as those of Abraham?

    “Enuff” of that religious mumbo jumbo and look to science for your salvation from global warming!

    Why not start with Genesis according to Darwin?

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  • @ robert lucas November 9, 2019 6:08 AM
    “There is going to be a referendum on the matter. I expect the result will be no.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Was there a referendum when the plant was deemed an untouchable criminal?

    How about a referendum also on the abolition of the death penalty?
    What do you think would be the “result”?

    As it stands the government is in constant breach of the Constitutionally-approved requirement of carrying out the death penalty on those deemed by the Court to be so desirous.

    Why this ‘urgent’ move to place such importance on a god-made plant which can be abused (like many other things) by silly people unless Judeo-Christian Bajans consider the plant cannabis to be that forbidden tree of good and evil which their god placed in the middle of the mythical garden of Eden?

    Why not hold first the referendum on the abolition of the ‘dead’ death penalty along with the right of same sex couples to marry legally even if not in the sight of some preacher person?

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  • For those still confused..Barbados is not the first to be decriminalizing or legalizing, numerous countries and states with hundreds of millions of people amd even more diverse societies have already walked that route..

    … as with everything there will be teething problems, but these countries never had the issue of governments maliciously and with deliberate intent brainwashing its citizens to HATE FOR DECADES, look down on, discriminate against and destroy the very people with the knowledge to take the marijuana industry to ITS ZENITH…the Rasta Community…

    Those other countries don’t have that problem….but the useless Caribbean governments do.

    Barbados government has a lot of damage that they themselves CREATED IN THE MINDS OF THE POPULATION…to undo….but that’s on them..,bunch of fools.

    Ah hope they know that not fella has any sympathy for them and their wicked actions that has returned to bite them in their asses…bien

    surtout moi.

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  • Oh shiiirt Abigail mekkin SOME sense. Seems she is about to depart Salem or Tituba is delivering her. 🤣🤣🤣

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  • I could afford to make sense…because my friend, am not the one who now has to reverse all the shite that yall pollutted each other’s minds with FOR DECADES..re Rasta and Marijuana…

    in case yall have not yet noticed so let me point it out, it will be a GINORMOUS task…

    cause ah DONE KNOW that not one of you even THOUGHT OF IT…lol

    see…ah even trying to help…but do not pout when i START TO CRITIQUE..

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  • @ David November 9, 2019 6:39 AM

    “The concern of this blogmaster is how do we manage the social element that comes from decriminalization given the fact we are an undisciplined society”.

    It won’t be managed. Too much freedom is as equally as bad as not enough freedom. In the western world ,there is a lot of S,,T going on. There gender fluidity( pure bs) among other things. I will predict,(I will be dead and gone by then), there is going to be a vicious backlash against this excessive freedom, which is epitomized by the killing that took place yesterday ( remember I used to be a teacher and should know of what I am speaking). In the animal kingdom,( humans are animals, who do not like to admit the fact).there are strict guidelines of behavior handed down from generation to generation for cohesion of the animal unit.. Those animals who deviate are driven out.

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  • Now GPII has gone and made an insensitive post on Facebook about the young man’s tragic death and is rightfully getting catspraddled by the comments. The man is a real idjut.

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  • @ WURA
    Amazingly theses visionless people have not even cashed in on the amazing tamarind both varieties- the one we grow up eating and the wild variety. We have chatter boxes not leaders.
    This entire marijuana debate is nothing more than political hypocrisy. We don’t need any referendum. All we need to do is legalize it. Now!

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  • @Dr. Lucas

    Legalizing the drug will put drug dealers out of work.

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  • @ robert lucas November 9, 2019 11:00 AM

    So Bricky, what would you prefer?

    The regimented religiously initiative-stifling environment of ‘modern-day’ communistic-leaning Islam or the more libertine ‘West’ with all its flaws, warts and all but offering endless opportunities to the world of scientific breakthroughs and unimaginable Artistic creativity?

    The future of mankind lies not in a controlled petri dish of moral religiosity but in the wild open fields of scientific experimentation.

    The God of mankind has already shown the way by providing a spotlight of acceptance of variation in the world.

    Why not accept it as our guide to a ‘better’ future the same way we accept the Rainbow as a sign of better we(a)ther to come?

    “Que sera, sera!”

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  • @ Miller November 9, 2019 8:54 AM

    I am not particularly interested in whether or not it is legalized. In my younger days I smoked some of the stuff and also drank tea made from it.( the tea has a similar taste to ginger tea). In those days I preferred consuming liquor and smoking tobacco ( I did both in what one may say to excess). You want to juxtapose the death penalty with the use of cannabis. My position on the death penalty is quite clear. I prefer life in jail ( no parole) which is a worse punishment than the death penalty, since there is the possibility of innocent people being executed . It is twenty-five years ago that I decided to stop smoking ( the choice was food or smoking): it was an abrupt stop. My lungs must be looking pink again GP should be in position to say how pink. I still sample the drinks.

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  • @ David November 9, 2019 11:14 AM
    What can I say, apart from the fact that you seem to be a die hard capitalist..

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  • Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Good Point Mr Blogmaster

    How is the government going to regularized the two nomenclatures: medical marijuana and religious marijuana. In a society like Barbados, the larger group of marijuana smokers are neither medical or religious. They represent a segment of the population that one can say are the abusers, not the control users. Also, we have been enlightened by those in the know that substance abuse is now hitting age brackets under 10. Your point is well taken because it constitutes a concern that should not be overlooked.

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  • ENUFF
    re Now GPII has gone and made an insensitive post on Facebook about the young man’s tragic death and is rightfully getting catspraddled by the comments. The man is a real idjut.

    COULD YOU PLEASE KINDLY REPOST THIS INSENSITIVE POST FROM FACEBOOK HERE ON BU FOR OUR ENLIGHTENMENT?

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  • Grenville Phillips
    15 hrs ·

    All he should be worrying about is his homework. Now his life has changed forever, and the other one’s time on this Earth has ended.

    It is time to start asking the hard questions.

    1. How many persons incarcerated at HMP Dodds smoked marijuana?

    2. What proportion of them blame the drug for their bad decisions that got them incarcerated?

    3. How many wished they had never started smoking?

    4. Did the fellow who stabbed his fellow student smoke marijuana regularly?

    5. How many of our youth that were sentenced to Summervale (for girls) and Dodds (for boys) smoked marijuana?

    If the answers to these questions are favourable, then go ahead and legalise it. Otherwise, we owe it to the next generation to be more responsible.

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  • Let them go on
    They will reap what they sow
    A country that have shown their abilty to be unmanageable would learn the hard way

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  • @ WURA-WAR-on-U November 9, 2019 10:52 AM

    From being the Salemite Abigail look alike you are now likened to the obeah woman Titubu taken from Barbados by the go(o)dly Reverend Parris the Puritan.

    It’s truly amazing how the likes of your former enemy “Enuff’ now converted to your fair-weather friend have suddenly jumped on this Marijuana bandwagon of decriminalization and social acceptance especially in the business of medicine.

    What has happened to Big Pharma?
    Has it followed the same path as the former money-making tobacco and alcohol once promoted as the cure-for-all of mankind’s physical ills?

    Everybody is now an expert on the pros and cons of the ex-convict Mary Jane;
    from University-trained professors to preachers.

    Mary Jane is a real whore isn’t she? Everybody now wants piece of the action either for profit or for fun.

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  • @ robert lucas November 9, 2019 11:25 AM

    D’accord in toto!

    Our individual paths and positions are conjoint.

    However, still cannot understand, in any moral or political way, why anyone should have a criminal record for using cannabis.

    So let us ‘fight’ for its decriminalization and help take some of the mystique out of it by removing the profit incentive.

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  • Miller…reality is seeping in.

    but wait…they think that is all.

    baby steps..

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  • Grenville just don’t know when to stop, my good heart warned him, do ya research first before spewing shite…ah got told how bad i am, never mind he was soundly cussed for his marijuana tirade by many people, now there he is making a proper ass of himself …again..

    “This entire marijuana debate is nothing more than political hypocrisy. We don’t need any referendum. All we need to do is legalize it. Now!”

    William…let them run with it, ah happy to beat them with their mistakes.

    you are right, Barbados has never had any leaders who are REAL THINKERS…only talkers lacking vision..

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  • My one thought is that at the time governments started issuing licenses and collecting fees, they should have started emptying jails and expunging/sealing the records of those whose crime was possession.

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  • PEOPLE ALL

    HEAR THE “HARD QUESTIONS” FROM THE SAGE GRENVILLE PHILLIPS WHO SEEKS TO LEAD OUR COUNTRY.

    It is time to start asking the hard questions.
    Q WHICH OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE HARD QUESTIONS?
    NONE OF THE QUESTIONS BELOW ARE LIKE SAY THE HENDERSON HASSELBACH EQUATION OR THE Schrodinger equation.

    How many persons incarcerated at HMP Dodds smoked marijuana?
    THIS IS A CLEAR NON SEQUITUR
    SO MANY PERSONS HAVE BEEN INCAREATED IN BARBADOS WHO HAVE NOT EVER SMOKED MARIJUANA.

    PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STABBING PEOPLE IN BARBADOS LONG BEFORE THE ADVENT OF MARIJUANA.SMOKING IN BARBADOS

    ONE REMEMBERS WELL THE LITTLE GIRL WHO STABBED ANOTHER GIRL TO DEATH AT THE FOUNDATION SCHOOL A LITTLE OVER 30 YEARS AGO.

    What proportion of them blame the drug for their bad decisions that got them incarcerated?
    THIS IS ANOTHER CLEAR NON SEQUITUR
    BAD DECISIONS THAT GET FOLK INCARCERATED ARE DIRECTLY DUE TO THE
    INCARCERATED HAVING WITHIN THEMSELVES THE “SIN” NATURE, NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE THEY SMOKED MARIJUANA.

    SINNERS SIN. SOME SINNERS GET INCARCERATED

    3 How many wished they had never started smoking?

    ANOTHER CLEAR NON SEQUITUR

    WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS QUESTION? WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SMOKING AND STABBING (KILLING) YOUR SCHOOLMATES?
    4. Did the fellow who stabbed his fellow student smoke marijuana regularly?
    ANOTHER CLEAR NON SEQUITUR
    IF HE ONLY SMOKED MARIJUANA OCASIONALY OR IF HE DID NOT SMOKE MARIJUANA AT ALL, WOULD HE NOT BE JUST AS LIKELY TO HAVE STABBED ANOTHER, SINCE LIKE ALL OF US, HE HAS THE SIN NATURE, AND IS PRONE TO SIN?
    5. How many of our youth that were sentenced to Summervale (for girls) and Dodds (for boys) smoked marijuana?
    ANOTHER CLEAR NON SEQUITUR
    How many of our youth that were sentenced to Summervale (for girls) and Dodds (for boys) HAVE NEVER ONCE smoked marijuana, OR SMOKED AT ALL?
    IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL THAT THIS LAD EVER SMOKED MARIJUANA OR EVEN ONCE PASSED BY A MARIJUANA SCHRUB?

    If the answers to these questions are favourable, then go ahead and legalise it.
    MORE RUBBISH! WHAT IS FAVOURABLE?
    WHAT ARE MORE SENSIBLE ON WHICH TO DETERMINE OR NOT DETERMINE LEGALISATION?

    Otherwise, we owe it to the next generation to be more responsible.

    DON’T , we owe it to the next generation to be more responsible IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES.
    NOW MR SOLUTIONS BARBADOS WITH NO REAL SOLUTIONS FOR BARBADOS, CANT YOU DO BETTER THAN THIS?
    DO YOU THINK THAT A PERSON WHO POSE PETTY PUERILE PITHY POINTS LIKE THIS IS PUTRID?

    NOTE I ONLY ASKING EASY QUESTIONS

    now watch for apologist I & 2 to enter stage right

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  • @ GP November 9, 2019 12:38 PM
    “4. Did the fellow who stabbed his fellow student smoke marijuana regularly?
    ANOTHER CLEAR NON SEQUITUR
    IF HE ONLY SMOKED MARIJUANA OCASIONALY OR IF HE DID NOT SMOKE MARIJUANA AT ALL, WOULD HE NOT BE JUST AS LIKELY TO HAVE STABBED ANOTHER, SINCE LIKE ALL OF US, HE HAS THE SIN NATURE, AND IS PRONE TO SIN?”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Never thought that the day would come when a ‘born-again sinner’ like the miller would support a Dr. GP in exposing another GP as a downright intellectual fraud.

    Marijuana has been on this Earth and in the garden of Eden long before the sinful primate called Man.

    Is GP therefore blaming Marijuana for Cain a tiller of the land (cultivator of herb) for killing his brother Cain a sheep farmer?

    Did Hitler or Pol Pot smoke marijuana and which created their distorted personalities?

    Only if that jack riding the ass of a knave called GP No.2 knew the many politicians, lawyers and judges in Barbados who have smoked or are still smoking mary jane behind closed recreational doors he would immediately turn into an alcoholic mule of downright disappointment.

    Why doesn’t he attribute the failure of the judiciary to function competently in compliance with his ISO 9001 standard to the excessive smoking of marijuana; not by those in the dock but on the bench?

    Has the GP No.2 the Bedroom Policeman now turned into a law enforcement drug lord to put the Temperance Movement and McCarthyism to shame?

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    MillerNovember 9, 2019 7:42 AM “So you agree, then, that Rastafarianism is a ‘legitimate’ member of the Abrahamic family of faiths? Btw way, when are you going to include Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Shinto and other religions from the East, North, South and West of God’s ‘blue’ planet called Earth in your pantheon of religions to sit at the table as those of Abraham?”

    I don’t concern myself overmuch with male centric Abrahamic religions.

    I wonder about God’s people who long, long before Abraham was born lived right here on this very spot of land where i now live.

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  • Miller
    Stop telling lies on muh! I always supported the legalisation of weed. Check the BU archives. Recently I questioned how one would police sacramental use and I remain curious. Get yuh facts straight.

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  • I got news for unna! Whether marijuana is legalized or not makes no difference. The Rastas are using it all like now and I doubt the police bother with them.

    Whether recreational use is legalized or not will make very little difference to its use. Those who are inclined to smoke it already do so. Some do it more boldly than others.

    The only difference for me would be the public smoking issue and that may be controlled as is tobacco smoking, and also smoking in apartment buildings or in homes that are in close proximity to each other where the second hand smoke would affect non-smoking neighbours.

    I over-nighted at a friend’s house one Old Year’s Night after a party. We both woke up feeling quite weird. We realized that the neighbourhood boys had had their own party under a tree a short distance from her house. It took all day to overcome the effects of inhaling that second hand marijuana smoke.

    The devil is as usual in the details.

    PS. A cousin of mine (a sorta Rasta) went to prison for a short while many years ago for growing and using marijuana. He also had to pay a fine at some point in time. He told me he grew more weed and sold it in order to pay that fine.

    The ship has sailed on marijuana use as it has on tobacco smoking and alcohol use. A different approach is needed.

    Decriminalization, legalization, medicinal use, religious use, recreational use, something else must be tried.

    But always education and protection for children and non-users and punishment for driving etc under the influence if this is deemed a hazard.

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  • At least the jokers in the parliament are consistent, they still believe they are dealing with fools..

    http://ow.ly/JAcz50x702y?fbclid=IwAR3IYEb3ktROLgE6RRtXgwB9NDzrJWPEN7dUtElqF7npePQJ3fxHz3KPPsg

    “Earlier this week in the House of Parliament, the AG said legislation is being drafted to allow sacramental use of cannabis, however Ras Simba said the proposal “does not change anything” and the plans to bring a court case against government still stand.

    He noted “Rastafari has always been the champion of the people” and the AHF will continue to fight for those who have been “disadvantaged by cannabis laws” in Barbados.

    He said the court case will be asking government to pass legislation to allow for the adult use of cannabis and will also be seeking compensation for those persons who were incarcerated for possession and use of marijuana.”

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