Gathering to Remember or Forget

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Submitted by Grenville Phillips II, Leader of Solutions Barbados

The Government is encouraging Barbadians overseas to remember their roots, and gather in Barbados next year.  This is a good initiative.  However, we should correct a fatal flaw in our culture before they arrive.  If we do not, then we risk reminding them of why they left.

We have a conscience to guide us in deciding what is just and unjust.  When we see injustice, we can either participate in, oppose, or ignore it.  To prevent us from acting on our conscience, oppressors tend to define places of self-preservation in our minds, where they hope we will remain – for their benefit.

During slavery, our fore-parents were ‘kept in their place’ with the threat of being sold.  After emancipation, they were ‘kept in their place’ with the threat of being deprived of work.  After independence, it was not the planters or merchants who wanted to keep us in our place, it was our politicians.

Our place was to be at the feet of one of their approved political parties.  To keep us in this place, they increased taxes at will to keep us living pay-cheque to pay-cheque, and dependent on their good graces.  People in that state are normally too afraid to do or say anything that will risk them losing their jobs.

Any Barbadian should be able to publicly comment on their ideas to improve Barbados.  However, if those comments are interpreted as a criticism of the Minister or the governing Party, then that person will not likely get appointed, promoted, or contracted during that political administration.

If the fellow offers the same advice during the other political administration, and it is similarly interpreted as a criticism of the Party, then his ‘goose is cooked’.  Therefore, Barbadians have learnt to resist their conscience to avoid becoming a political target.  The sustainable options for people who felt compelled to follow their conscience, was to either start their own business, or leave Barbados.

To keep us in our place, we are constantly reminded of how vulnerable our position is in Barbados.  This is the normally the role of dangerous political operatives.  However, sometimes politicians reveal more than they intend.  Consider a BLP Minister of Labour’s comments in Parliament, during a parliamentary debate in 1978.

“Now let me tell you this.  Anything with D L P, if you breathe, you cannot eat as far as I am concerned.  It is as simple as that.  This is war.  If your name is Douglas Leopold Phillips, by accident DLP, and you miss and approach me and I see it just in your face; no dice.”

He continued.  “Hitler would never feed the Americans to fight him.  Hitler would feed the Germans to fight the Americans, and this will be the ball game or the Prime Minister can take his instrument.  It is as simple as that.”

This intention seems to be demonstrated with every change of Government, where we expect public workers and contractors who supported the losing party to be dismissed (cannot eat), and those who supported the winning party to be rewarded (fed).

The Minister of Education recently noted that the cost of the schools summer maintenance program had increased from the initial estimate of $1.8M to $6.6M.  On 30 August 2019 in Parliament, she described the lucky 39 contractors who were given these contracts.

“We’ve been fortunate that we had a mix of contractors this year … we had some who were new, some who had been in existence for some time, and some who had, you know, who had not been given a fair share of the pie in previous years, for one reason or the other.  We have therefore attempted to try to share the work across the landscape, to ensure that there is greater application of the resources available to the Ministry.”

While it sounds good, sharing the ministry’s resources across the landscape does not correct past wrongs, but sustains them.  When contractors are given no-bid public contracts, they seem to produce poor-quality, high-maintenance, and over-priced work, that attracts complaints from the users.

The best way to right past wrongs is by doing right things.  The best way of growing Barbados’ economy is to allow all Barbadians to fairly participate, and allow all ideas to contend.  Barbadians need to be freed to present their ideas, without fear of being excluded from participating in Barbados’ economy.

Forcing Barbadians to consistently oppose their conscience can only damage them emotionally, spiritually and physically.  Before Barbadians gather in 2020, our politicians need to break those chains that they have placed on all Barbadians.  If those who have escaped this political intimidation, are forced to relive that pain, they will likely be too ashamed to introduce their children to an enslaved people.

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer and President of Solutions Barbados.  He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

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  • My dear Sir, you are one fortunate man, for you recognized that we as a people are flawed culturally and even in other ways not mentioned. One day, maybe, you’ll be accorded the recognition now given to sister Harriet who could have freed a lot more had they wanted to or realized they were slaves.

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  • Excellent contribution from GP2.

    There are tremendous forces out there that have no desire to see our region develop.

    We have to accept that there exists a tacit agreement between our leaders and larger powers to keep us in our place.

    Gaddafi was called a “mad dog” by President Reagan for having the audacity to offer an alternative to rampant capitalism.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/20/libya-from-africas-wealthiest-democracy-under-gaddafi-to-terrorist-haven-after-us-intervention/

    https://www.africanexponent.com/post/new-evidence-the-real-reason-gaddafi-was-killed-2706p

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  • “The sustainable options for people who felt compelled to follow their conscience, was to either start their own business, or leave Barbados”

    True words. I am curious about this gathering next year. It seems that it is hoped that there will be a fount of patriotism which will rise to the occasion to save Barbados’ bacon. Why should one who has experienced the facts outlined above be dying to render saccour ? The gathering seems to be an exercise in legerdemain by Mia (a sleight of hand move to bamboozle the populace in having a feel good experience). I may be wrong in my assessment.

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  • @Dr. Lucas

    What is wrong with the government implementing measures to create a good experience?

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  • What experience is that? Can u David explain more
    What plans does govt have in place that when the dispora return home they will be greeted by an”experience”
    Where will govt generate the money for the “experience”
    Mia said Barbados is broke

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  • @David October 16, 2019 5:02 AM

    One cannot live by “feel good experiences” alone( just like man cannot live by eating bread alone). It is necessary to have a mixture of both. At present the bread bit is wanting if one goes by the utterances of the populace.

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  • @Dr. Lucas What you are saying is true but it is a factor that must be factored in the rebuild of the Bajan brand. The government must be given a chance to rollout its policies. It is a reasonable position for reasonable people to have. And yes it has made mistakes. If you do an informal scan of Bajans living overseas and with other stakeholders, many Bajans in the Diaspora are planning to coming home next year. When the dust is settles they are Bajans and have an intrinsic and other desire to see Barbados do well.

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  • Great debate so far, gentlemen…… however, I worry that when the Diaspora return in 2020 their expectations of ‘improvement’, since leaving, will be crushed by the attitude & service they receive.

    We all know they will return hoping to see improvement in many areas so they can return and boast about the ‘wow’ factor to their friends …. and be proud to be Bajans BUT…. Inefficiency still abounds … successive governments and the private sector can’t seem to reverse the situation.

    Painting a few buildings, patching a few potholes, and staging a bunch of cultural events won’t do the job …… serious change must come!

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  • @ks

    Barbadians living in the diaspora should be aware by now there reentry or visit has to be with realistic expectation. Barbadians who have been returning often usually do not have such an unpleasant experience.

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  • “After independence, it was not the planters or merchants who wanted to keep us in our place, it was our politicians.”

    you are lying AGAIN Grenville, it was and still are both,.

    you have nothing to gain by that false narrative, the descendants of the planter class have been payng BRIBES to the idiots in parliament for decades, money that the thieves in parliament help them ROB THE PEOPLE to keep you in your place.

    you need to stop misleading the youth or they will forever believe they owe the criminal minorities on the island something, as is the popular sentiment now..

    there are not enuff minotirities on the island to elect you and never will be, so you need to stop kissing up to, kissing ass and trying to kowtow to these damn parasites in the lives of the majority black population…it makes you no better than the sell outs in parliament and bar association, no one will trust you.

    when other bloggers see this damn nonsense from wannabe leaders, they need to call it out…stop allowing politicians to get away with lies cause if they get into the parliament with these clear misleading statements, they will do even worse.

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  • David

    How de RH a government could so try to reorganize the Customs Department and the most innocuous of items will be ensnared in these interminable delays, for months now, packages sent by UPS at great expense, for example.

    Our information technology package which costs tens and thousands, with every day’s delay also costing additional thousands. and not a RH word as to how long this shiiite will last.

    And the point is that we do not detect any urgency to resolve this disgraceful situation any time soon.

    Do Bajans really still think that people doing business internationally got time or patience with this RH.

    Barbados is not opened for business or anything else and maybe never will.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    The Bard from Stratford on the river Avon in England,almost 5 centuries ago penned : ” All the world is a stage and all the men and women merely players . They have their exits and their entrances etc ,,”.

    GPII has given an interpretation/ exposition of this perfect 20/20 Vision.

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  • GP2, It is impossible to build an equitable country where a political party relies on the patronage of business enterprises in order to get elected.

    Barbados is perceived as been backwards by the majority of those from the diaspora. The infrastructure of the country is on the point of collapse and is probably beyond repair.

    I have just been reading up on the late great Colonel Gaddafi. He was responsible for the building of the Great Man River in Libya. An extraordinary feat of engineering which brought life to a region where there life would have been a struggle. With your disciplined engineering background you will appreciate the link below.

    Compare this to Barbados where access to water has become increasingly difficult.

    We had the vision to build our port in the early seventies, I believe; but we have seen little of merit since then.

    Mia’s idea to set up a gathering is good in principle. However it has come too late. Barbados is perceived as been a country that is unstable. Too high risk and not a safe place to move to.

    I have an alternative bolt hole in Europe outside of the UK which offers me a comfortable alternative to Barbados.

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  • Not really understanding the importance of the “Gathering” every year the dispora returns for crop over folliwed by Independence
    This so call gathering sums up to a smoke and mirror event to drain the dispora pockets with govt having nothing to offer them in return
    Steupse
    Mia belives that a few trips into the dispora and by leaving them with a feel good attitude would be enough to encourage them to spend money
    However the dispora not foolish enough to empty their pockets in high priced destinations.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    My interpretation is that somebody is taking the part of the donkey too seriously.

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  • @David
    If you do an informal scan of Bajans living overseas and with other stakeholders, many Bajans in the Diaspora are planning to coming home next year
    +++++++++++++++++++
    That may be true on the surface but none of my friends are planning to come home for the “Gathering”, they are making arrangements for their usual visits irrespective of when their Parishes are having a celebration. In my case I was there twice this year and will visit for part of the winter next year as usual.

    Gathering,Smathering don’t care.

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  • After 16 months of to-ing and fro-ing, this government’s magical economic policy is the gathering. How sad.

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  • The mindset that needs changing from the clowns in parliament on down to the man in the street is that somehow UK left these riffraff bajan wihites ..and then a gaggle of their fellow criminal minorities …cocaine and gun traffickers…from india, syria and trinidad in charge of the majority black population, they are nothing but bottomfeeding parasites being maintained at the people’s expense by stupid, greedy negros in the parliament and bar association…no one left them in charge of the population or the island, it’s only your stupid leaders feel that way because the belief lines their pockets…..all they do is steal..commit multiple crimes and practice their disenfranchisement, discrimination and racism against the people.

    IT HAS TO END….and Grenville better not think for one moment that he will be allowed in the parliament to perpetrate the continuation of same.

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  • I am returning next year but i return 3-4 times each year. i share the sentiments some expressed above. you have to be returning to Bim regularly to be not shocked at the level of service especially in Govt.

    i must admit over the years it has improved a lot on a one and one level but bureaucracy still rules and that is where the problem lies.

    it seems as though we always choose the most complicated path and you sometimes wonder whether govt services was set up to thwart progress and not to facilitate it. we have to do better.

    i remember that 1978 speech quoted by Grenville v well and it is one of the reasons why i dont fancy the BLP and it is in that same period that Tom Adams told a cawmerian at a hotel (i could be exact if i wanted to) that he would never work in Bim again and he didnt.

    yes i am returning and it wont be because of the call for a gathering by MAM. not a bad effort on her part tho. she is good at such things and seem to really enjoy them. she should change the laws to give bajans overseas the right to vote by mail and then hold a big registration drive when we gather. that way she would have a certain voting block locked down

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  • @David BU, what has informed you that Bajans returning often don’t have a bad experience? Because we can been seen laughing and skinning our teets don’t be fooled.

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  • Waru: I can always depend on you, and the supporters of Atherley’s ppfdd to try to harm my reputation. Be assured that you will always fail – always.

    Prior to our independence, the planters and merchants wanted to control the masses if they got ‘out of hand’. During slavery, they used the military. After slavery they used the police.

    After our independence, controlling Barbadians was no longer their responsibility, but that of our politicians. They simply wanted to make money. Many business persons do not want to pay bribes. However, they see it as a cost of doing business. If they do not pay, they will not get the job.

    I have never paid (or received) a bribe. That meant that I could not work in Barbados for 7 years. But being a senior structural engineer, I had options. Some simply have no option but bankruptcy – which can be a career ender in a politicized unforgiving Barbados. That is why destroying corruption in Barbados was one of our main pillars.

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  • Correction. Ii was actually being a Chartered Structural Engineers that gave me options – Chartership is almost like an international passport. Which is why I encourage, and actively facilitated, Barbadian professionals becoming Chartered.

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  • Chartership is almost like an international passport…????? So chartered accountants…chartered insurers…? Wow. Have charter will travel.…..

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  • “Prior to our independence, the planters and merchants wanted to control the masses if they got ‘out of hand’. During slavery, they used the military. After slavery they used the police.

    After our independence, controlling Barbadians was no longer their responsibility, but that of our politicians. They simply wanted to make money. Many business persons do not want to pay bribes. However, they see it as a cost of doing business. If they do not pay, they will not get the job.”

    and that made the planter class so damn honest..me thinks not, they paid BRIBES,.they did it because of GREED….why did they not REPORT all these crimes committed by the sell outs in parliament to international agencies, this has been happening for decades….most of them paid to play…so they are no different..

    you STILL MISS the part where, the planter class and new age minorities…CONTROL THE SELL OUTS IN THE PARLIAMENT…and have for all of over 50 years…they did not need to control the population…control the corrupt leaders..and they will control the population and keep them in misery to line their pockets BECAUSE THEY ARE PAID BRIBES.

    And why DID YOU…not report any of this to international agencies yourself…but sat your backside down saying nothing until the blogs had to expose all of this…and you even attacked us for exposing certain things, so now you want to fix the narrative to fit your ambitions…steupss.

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  • @ Pachamama October 16, 2019 7:48 AM
    “And the point is that we do not detect any urgency to resolve this disgraceful situation any time soon.
    Do Bajans really still think that people doing business internationally got time or patience with this RH.”
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    And all of this is taking place against a background where so-called experts have been included in the current fat-cheques administration obesely extended cabinet as ministers and czars.

    Didn’t the CoC give an iron-clad assurance to the Chamber of Commerce and other stakeholders in the import/export game that this fiasco would have sorted some two weeks ago?

    These bureaucratic bunglers and politically-appointed bullshitters can be deserving of only one thing; a good ole Bajan Right Honourable “bewsing”.

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  • You are sidestepping the fact that these are the same DEMONS..who have WAY TOO MUCH SAY in how the island is managed…now mismanged….for the past 50 plus years…AND THEY GOT THE NERVE…to have been for decades telling the sell out negros what and what not to do with the majority population whom they ROB…now they are bending themselves in half…trying to STEAL THE WATER SUPPLY..

    and here you are talking SHITE.

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  • @Pacha

    If we take the word of the president of the brokers association many of the issues were resolved. In fact she complimented the CoC for his vigorous hands on approach to problem solving. They seem to have broken the back of the initial problem.

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  • @Sargeant

    Of course many will be here for routine visits, nothing to do with We Garherin- the more the merrier!

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  • @WhiteHill

    Not sure where the blogmaster intimated such was the case.

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  • @Grenville

    You are too thinskin. Sometimes you ignore and keep focus on the substantive point.

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  • I LOVE TO WATCH HORSE RACING ON TV, WHERE ON A SPLIT SCREEN THERE ARE THREE WAYS TO FOCUS ON A PARTICULAR HORSE.

    SOMETIMES A CERTAIN HORSE SEEMS TO RUN BACKWARDS.

    THAT IS HOW I THINK OF BARBADOS…….LIKE A HORSE RUNNING BACKWARDS

    MANY OF YOU, ON ENTERING SECONDARY SCHOOL IN THE LATE 50’S OR EARLY 60’S HAD TO LEARN POEMS FROM “A POETRY BOOK FOR BOYS AND GIRLS.”

    I AM SURE YOU ALL WILL RECALL THE ONE THAT BEGUN ” I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER THE HOUSE WHERE I WAS BORN, THE LITTLE WINDOW WHERE THE SUN, CAME PEEPING AT MORN”

    WHY SHOULD BAJANS ABROAD OF SUCH VINTAGE RETURN EN MASSE, OR AT ALL TO ENDURE THE SITE OF BARBADOS…….LIKE A HORSE RUNNING BACKWARDS AIMLESSLY?

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  • David

    That’s good to hear.

    Could these problems not have been foreseen with a pilot project in the first place.

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  • Miller

    We are unsure whether any amount uh ‘bewsing’ could cut this from the body politic.

    And we say cut deliberately, for you will be well aware of our much favoured device for social transformation. LOL

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  • David:

    You allow unrestrained discussion. That is good. I do the same on the various sites that I manage. However, there is one difference. I moderate the parts of comments which attack persons’ reputations. Why? Because I want commenters to learn to be more responsible, and I do not want to attract a claim of defamation.

    Since you allow personal attacks to go un-moderated on this site, every once in a while, I must expose the political operatives so that their personal attacks can be placed in context. That is not being thin skinned. It is being responsible.

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  • @ Pachamama October 16, 2019 9:36 AM

    Right on the RH money!

    If the ‘IT’ czars in the new government were worth their cotton-picking ‘salarium’ that is the ‘obviously basic’ approach they should have recommended and managed.

    That’s Element 101 in the ICT training manual.

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  • Cant help but remember the big stink Mia snd her flatfooted koolaid drinking minions made when past govt reached out to the dispora to celebrate barbados 50th independence celebration
    What a bunch of hypocrites all now shown to be
    Tax papers money would be handed to friends and associates in 2020 under a fake event called “gathering”
    Watch me Now was Mia motto
    Hell yes all is watching as the dispora gets a first hand red wash as Mia siphoned there money from their pockets
    What a belly laugh

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  • Yes Hal. Chartership is a recognized objectively verified international professional designation. In the US and Canada, they have the PEng (Professional Engineer) designation. However, you need to be resident in those countries to obtain that. Chartership allows persons from any country in the world to have an internationally recognized professional designation – of the highest standard.

    While I was actively facilitating Chartership, there were others who were irresponsibly discouraging this initiative.

    So, yes Hal. Your ‘have charter, will travel’ is correct – and proven.

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  • GP 2

    AS YOU WELL KNOW YOU ARE ENJOINED IN HEBREWS 12 TO RUN WITH PATIENCE OR ENDURANCE THE RACE THAT IS SET BEFORE YOU

    CONTINUE TO DO SO AS BEST YOU CAN DESPITE ATTACKS AND ASSAULTS

    I DONT THINK YOU HAVE ALL THE SOLUTIONS OR THE CHARISMA, BUT YOU HAVE GUTS AND THE COURAGE OF YOUR CONVICTIONS

    BUT EXPECT TO BE ASSAULTED AND ATTACKED BY THOSE OF LESSER MERIT AND LOWER STANDING

    AFTER ALL THAT IS THE BAJAN WAY AND ONE OF THE REASONS BARBADOS IS RUNNING BACKWARDS AIMLESSLY

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  • it is well known by us living overseas that all Bajans want from us is a couple of barrels a year, a lil all inclusive visit by them and their family whenever, some money monthly or whenever we can, some money to buy land and build a house that they will put in their name because you already got, a visit by us once a year at most and more money and clothes, and then guh bac wuh yuh come frum.

    anything beyond that is an inconvenience. i dont think this we gathering thing is anything different.

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  • So what about now Grenville..have any of the business people in the last 24 years REPORTED to international agencies……the ministers/lawyers/politicians who are ALSO clearly CULPABLE in EXTORTING BRIBES from business people as many of them have complained for YEARS has happened to them if they want to do business on the island..

    There have been many instances where many people complained how difficult it is to do business if u do not pay to play…how about more exposure for those on both sides who practice this crime….both the business people and those who facility bribery/extortion….

    If it is not CONTINUALLY exposed…they will ALL make sure it continues, to the detriment of everyone and the already destroyed economy.

    Just remember it takes two to commit corrupt crimes againt people and country, the leaders AND the business community.

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  • @Greene, of course they will deny such is the case, but it is evident that what you have stated is the case and has been from time immemorial .

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  • Grenville don’t want to ignore, he wants to CONTROL..

    he is another one quick to holler defamation….

    ..just imagine him in the parliament with small island power and anyone says something he does not like….that does not fit into his fantasies and delusions.

    …if ya keep posting UNTRUTHS to futher confuse the POPULI..and keep that rotten, backward status quo intact…….expect to be CALLED OUT.

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  • @ Greene

    Spot on. You have forgotten one thing: if you have property and squatters (so-called adverse possessors) of property owned by overseas Bajans then from the top down, including an army of dodgy lawyers, conspire to deny the rightful owners access to their property.
    Mafia capitalism.

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  • This govt is just like the one before. And the one before. And the one before. And…
    Which means that and the end of the cycle of this version of the BLP we will be in the same position or worse.

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  • @ WURA-WAR-on-U October 16, 2019 7:46 AM

    “the descendants of the planter class have been payng BRIBES to the idiots in parliament for decades, money that the thieves in parliament help them ROB THE PEOPLE to keep you in your place”.

    You have a point with the above statement.

    “there are not enuff minotirities on the island to elect you and never will be, so you need to stop kissing up to”

    A very dogmatic statement, which on reviewing you may want to modify. The indigenous Fijians adopted a similar attitude until prior to one election when the realization came home that the East Indians, who Australia had imported to harvest sugar cane, had been out breeding them and were poised to have a majority in parliament( all in the space of less than a hundred years). A coup ensued to prevent that from happening. Given the fact that the Barbados Family Planning Unit has high-lighted the problem of declining birth rates, it might be wise to ponder on the topic.

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  • @ Robert

    Demographics, dear boy, demographics. That is why say we should have a two-child policy, a third child must be fully paid for by the parents (health, education, etc) and four or more should be taken in to care and put up for adoption.
    The biggest climate change threat is over-population.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Grenville Phillips “During slavery, our fore-parents were ‘kept in their place’ with the threat of being sold.”

    Nope. If you are enslaved it does not matter if you live at Rock Hall, St. Phillip or Rock Hall St. Peter, so “no” our foreparents were not kept in place by the “threats of being sold”. They were kept in their place by VIOLENCE by BEATINGS. I was born long after 1838, but my childhood next door neighbour, about 80 at the time had spent her life being a driver of a “gang” of child labourers. At the time I was at secondary school she still had the leather whip with which she used to beat the children.

    @Grenville Phillips “Our place was to be at the feet of one of their approved political parties. To keep us in this place, they increased taxes at will to keep us living pay-cheque to pay-cheque, and dependent on their good graces. People in that state are normally too afraid to do or say anything that will risk them losing their jobs.”

    I’ve tried and succeeded at staying far, far from the plantation class, and the political class. When i was young and did not know any better worked for 6 years for a parastatal. i left because there was not enough work for me to do, and my conscience would not permit me to accept a pay cheque for very little work. Not lazy.

    @Grenville Phillips “Any Barbadian should be able to publicly comment on their ideas to improve Barbados. However, if those comments are interpreted as a criticism of the Minister or the governing Party.”

    I agree that politicians and public servants WHO ALL GET PAID FROM OUR TAX MONEY should be vigorously criticized; and such people ought not to be thin skinned.

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  • @ Hal
    “and four or more should be taken in to care and put up for adoption.”‘
    Not a bad idea at all. there will be push-back from certain sectors, but with firm leadership only a few problems should occur.

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  • Robert…we visited this topic already…in the last 300 plus years, taking into account the birth rate of the minority population, even when they were warned about the inbreeding and had to import females, even with migration here and there which is not more than 50,000 across various countries…the minority population remains…under 10,000 on the island …in over 300 years..

    …..but yet want to continue controlling the parliament, the economy, all the land, all economic activity, all the criminal activities and now the water supply, something is not right with that picture.

    I asked that question years ago on the blog, why does the birth rate for minoritie bajan “whites” remain so low….hundreds of years later after the indentured experience …and even with migration in other much larger countries, the birth rate is still very, very low, compared to real caucausoid groups and others.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @GrenvillePhillips “Before Barbadians gather in 2020, our politicians need to break those chains that they have placed on all Barbadians.”

    If we wait on the politicians to break our chains we will be forever chained. People who benefit from chaining up others will never voluntarily relinquish that power.

    I go with brother Bob “liberate yourself from mental [or political] slavery.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @TLSN “Barbados is perceived as been a country that is unstable. Too high risk and not a safe place to move to.”

    Perceived as being unstable by whom?

    Too high risk? Explain please.

    Not a safe place. Who says so besides you?

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  • @ robert lucas October 16, 2019 12:06 PM
    “Given the fact that the Barbados Family Planning Unit has high-lighted the problem of declining birth rates, it might be wise to ponder on the topic.”
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    Such a project to remake the Bajan population in an ‘Indian’ indigenous image is already under way; just like what happened in Trinidad and Guyana.

    Maybe Columbus had more foresight than we give him credit for by prematurely, if not preemptively, labeling the Caribbean the “West Indies”.

    Just check out the current fast growing dominant colour of ethnic diversity of the Kensington/Fontabelle area the former bedrock of ‘white on top of black’ miscegenation.

    Soon you will have to put up with the change of name of places like Husbands & Wanstead to Kashmir and Karachi.

    In the race of the survival of the ‘populous’ fittest, fecundity in the numbers game is the highest card in the pack of sex.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @TLSN “We had the vision to build our port in the early seventies.”

    The Bridgetown Port was officially opened in 1961. The build started in the late to mid fifties.

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  • .but yet want to continue controlling the parliament, the economy, all the land, all economic activity, all the criminal activities and now the water supply, something is not right with that picture…and the ugliness in all of that, they are allowed to by the sell outs in the parliament, who look just like the majority population.

    We should be hearing wannabe leaders talking about DISMANTLING this destructive status quo…not dancing around it with flimsy excuses to keep it in place…because they got parasites to impress…..that is why i am so not impressed with any of thrpem and will call them out if they think they can hoodwink the people to get into the parliament…if ya can’t stand the heat, get lost.

    I am yet to hear even one politician or minister speak about getting rid of this blight and curse in the lives of the majority population, bloodsucking, parasitic minorities..that continues to drag the economy further and further down into the abyss…..and the people deeper and deeper into poverty and modern day enslavement..

    ..the only thing ya hear on that topic is about libel and defamation lawsuits…if ya dare to broach the subject…that is why it must be aired, just like i asked years ago about the low birth rates in the minority group, not a fella answered….same thing with getting rid of those damned minority parasites, no one wants to address it.

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  • re in Today’s NATION WE READ
    The Queen Elizabeth Hospital (QEH) appears to be teetering on a razor’s edge.

    Staff told THE NATION that a myriad of complaints resulted in a brief walkout last week. The complaints ranged from the physical condition of the plant, safety of staff and patients, to overcrowding on wards.

    They received support from the floor of the House of Assembly yesterday when Government MP Dr Sonia Browne, as well as Opposition Leader Bishop Joseph Atherley, rapped conditions at the state-run facility.

    Browne, a physician who once worked at the QEH, said her phone “has been lit up for weeks and months” with reports about overworked and unmotivated employees, patient overloads, supply shortages, insufficient nurses and malfunctioning equipment. (CA)

    IS THIS WHAT WE MUST REGATHER NEXT YEAR TO OBSERVE AND EXPERIENCE AND POSSIBLY ENDURE?

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  • @ WURA-War-on-U October 16, 2019 12:34 PM
    “I asked that question years ago on the blog, why does the birth rate for minoritie bajan “whites” remain so low….hundreds of years later after the indentured experience …and even with migration in other much larger countries, the birth rate is still very, very low, compared to real caucausoid groups and others.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    How can there be high fecundity rates among an ethnically-isolated small group of hominids which has been characterized by widespread in-breeding over the past 300 years?

    Within the next 100 years the classification of residents called “Bajan whites” would be as rare as an Arawak, a Bajan raccoon, pelican or even a rod of sugarcane.

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  • “Just check out the current fast growing dominant colour of ethnic diversity of the Kensington/Fontabelle area the former bedrock of ‘white on top of black’ miscegenation.”

    Those are the ones you have to watch out for, both governments continue to give them way too much leeway …while the majority population can no longer afford children due to being REDUCED into poverty by both governments, so that these other minorities TOO can enrich themselves off the black populi..

    .these southeast asian descended are taking full advantage to breed and increase…because they are given access to everything and no controls or enforcement of the law.. over how they make money, whether it’s legal or illegal.

    This too needs to be aired, but don’t be surprised if ya hear defamation for exposing another series of crimes stagnating the economy and majority population….another topic nit one politician wants to address.

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  • “Within the next 100 years the classification of residents called “Bajan whites” would be as rare as an Arawak, a Bajan raccoon, pelican or even a rod of sugarcane.”

    which will be a good thing for the majority population, a group of them are despicable parasites, the smarter ones not inclined to live off the backs of black people will migrate and dilute that inbred bloodline.

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  • GP…a direct result of the corruption we have been exposing for years when we were called, liars, frauds, etc….same hospital the ones who cussed us will now have to endure should they get ill..if they cannot afford private heathcare or overseas medical trips.

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  • @TLSN

    We had the vision to build our port in the early seventies, I believe; but we have seen little of merit since then…(Quote)

    You have made a small mistake, in that the Deep Water Harbour was built in the 1950s by Costain under Sir Grantley Adams, and opened under the first DLP government. Adams built the port and Barrow got the praise, as he did for the QEH.
    Bu that is not all, at the time, the Deep Water Harbour was one of the first container ports in the world and we were genuinely punching above our weight.
    At the same time the Adams government built the Pine, Grazettes and Deacons to re-house the slums of the City; they also built the Parkinson, Princess Margaret, and St Joseph’s secondary schools.
    It was a period of remarkable post-war infrastructural development the like of which we have not seen in Barbados since, apart from the tinkering at the airport. Barrow’s answer to all this was so-called free education. Now we have squatters.

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  • @ WURA-War-on-U October 16, 2019 12:34 PM

    Expand your observations to include other ethnic groups. If you had paid careful attention to my October 16, 2019 12:06 PM posting, you would have gotten the drift of the message. There is a new scourge on the market that is worse than the accustom punching bag.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @SargeantOctober 16, 2019 7:58 AM ” In my case I was there twice this year and will visit for part of the winter next year as usual.”

    Thanks Sarge.

    I trust that we treat you well whenever you are here.

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  • @ Simple Simon,
    I stand to be corrected with regard to the opening of the port. The important point will not be lost by those who follow BU. It took audacity and vision back then to conceive and to build the port.

    Apart from one or two projects since 1961, such as the development of Harrison Cave, the Kensington Oval, et al.; what have been the legacy projects that we can look back on with any sense of pride? Those projects that will endure and bring prosperity to all. And please do not mention the poorly constructed Highway routes.

    Take a look at the visionary infrastructure projects that are been carried out by Ethiopia and in other developing countries.

    With our limited finances we should have been maintaining and refurbishing our built environment rather then building shit constructions that have been poorly designed and built.

    You are going to quibble over a date but you are too short sighted to see the bigger picture.

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  • @TLSN

    Kensington Oval was a total disaster as a project. Remember the World Cup final?.

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  • Robert…there are only so many minority groups on the island, the ones who are foremost in stealing everything and stagnating the majority population, pushing the island into poverty and enslavement… are the usual suspects in the bajan “white” group, who are the most dangerous because they were given rope for years to enrich themselves at the expense of the population, and are by far the largest group….. compared to the muslim/indian/syrian groups, they too are very dangerous and out of control….but number much less than 4,000 each.

    the asian group…not south east asian like indian/muslim….are very tiny but can grow real fast because they are very ambitious and handson.

    in all of that, if they are not controlled with the EXISTING laws and are enabled as they have been for the last 50 plus years post independence… enslavement and poverty will be an every day staple in the lives of the majority, very shortly…

    we must account for which of them have the most control over the sell out leaders and lawyers, that is where the REAL problems lie…

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  • The We Gathering Crowd from the Diaspora have to watch themselves no matter what. I am sure they are well aware of that, they are NOT the PREFERRED CROWD by this government…they are the LAST RESORT CROWD…and am sure they know it only too well..

    cause as is the norm, the parasites have closed ranks and locked off what they stole and will only crawl out of their cockroach holes when they see the majority population once again generating billions in taxes, billions in pension fund money, billions in VAT, billions in loans…then and only then will they once again jump out to TIEF…to DEMAND …and to COMMAND..

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  • David

    Our associates just heard from UPS. Apparently, they now have access and hope to clear backlog by next week.

    Thanks

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  • @ Hal,
    Thanks for filling in the blanks in my lack of knowledge.

    The period of which you referenced were the halcyon days. And should have been the building blocks for a new Barbados.

    When I travel through Barbados there is little that inspires me. The only thing that has merit are the constructions left behind by our slave ancestors who were skilled and inventive.

    I have been reading snippets of Gaddafi’s Green book. I had no idea that the man was such a visionary. A man of his mindset is what we require in the Caribbean to shake us out of our lethargy. Not some woman who remains loud, animated and of little substance.

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  • https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/10/15/lashley-knocks-welfare-department/

    the degradation is real, the slide into reenslavement for the most vulnerable in the population is real..no one wants to hear empty words from poiticians, do something and soon…or many ministers will find themselves on the international front accused of modern day slavery, but that is their business…we have been warning for years..

    Pacha..these jokers are not serious, they never were, they still believe this is some joke because they tell themselves their salaries are secure.. so they can make fun of the people like nuisance Lowe.

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  • @TLSN

    Gaddafi was murdered as he was progressing with African unity. Look at his Green Revolution. It was the attack on Tripoli that led to my getting a staff job on the Daly Mail.

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  • Theme song for We Gatherin ?

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  • This one is better. Definitely worth paying Rupee to make this the We Gatherin theme song.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @GreeneOctober 16, 2019 10:22 AM “it is well known by us living overseas that all Bajans want from us is a couple of barrels a year, a lil all inclusive visit by them and their family whenever, some money monthly or whenever we can, some money to buy land and build a house that they will put in their name because you already got, a visit by us once a year at most and more money and clothes, and then guh bac wuh yuh come frum.”

    Not true.

    I am always happy to see my family when they visit here. And I am happy to visit them there. I always pay my own way. I always treat visiting family to a traditional Bajan dinner. Nuff, nuff food and drink (cooked with my own loving hands of course) nuff ole talk. I have NEVER asked anybody, nor even hinted to anybody that they should send me a barrell or money. Bought my own house with my own hard earned money. Spent many years helping to raise neices and nephews when the parents over in away ran into matrimonial or social difficulties. Was happy to do so. Never asked for and never received any money, or goods in return. Looked after OUR aging parents, while holding down a full time job and raising children so that the siblings over in away could go to work and go on vacations without worrying if mum or dad was bathed or fed that day. Yes they were bathed twice a day and fed three or more times a day. I don’t know what sort of family you have in Barbados, but please, please I beg you do not malign all of us.

    I hope that you come to and that you enjoy the gathering.

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  • As the self appointed Czar and consultant to the minister in the ministry of We Gatherin I suggest a We Gatherin play list that includes

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    r@obert lucasOctober 16, 2019 12:06 PM “Given the fact that the Barbados Family Planning Unit has high-lighted the problem of declining birth rates, it might be wise to ponder on the topic.”

    So how many children have you begotten and contributed to the Barbados genetic pool?

    If only one or two why not more?

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal AustinOctober 16, 2019 12:19 PM “and four or more should be taken in to care and put up for adoption.”

    Adopted by whom? By you? By Lucas?

    Talk is cheap. Child rearing is both time consuming and expensive.

    And “yes” I am a biological and an adoptive parent.

    Don’t just talk the talk. Walk the walk.

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  • You Bajan people who love to criticize. If Jamaica or Bahamas had planned a similar We Gatherin it would have been spoken favorably by you lot.

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  • Hopefully neither Jamaica nor Bahamas rob their elderly people’s estates, rob their beneficiaries or wipe out their bank accounts, then no one will have anything to say..

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  • Simple:

    Please review the historical record and do not be so quick to oppose. The threat of being sold and separated from one’s family, was a real threat that was used to ‘keep slaves in their place’.

    You wrote: “I’ve tried and succeeded at staying far, far from the plantation class, and the political class.”

    Perhaps, but despite your bluster, you still chose the self-preservation option of staying ‘in your place’.

    Answer me three questions.

    Why do some who have: retired, do not live in Barbados, are outside of the reach of the dangerous BLP/DLP political operatives, and have nothing to lose, remain so terrified of the consequences that they feel compelled to use fake names?

    Why do some who: live in Barbados, are not retired, are targeted weekly by these dangerous political operatives, and have everything to lose, choose to comment using their real names and without fear?

    Why is it that those who cower behind fake names tend to criticise those who use their real names, for not being as rude, defamatory, and reckless in their comments as themselves?

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  • @SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife October 16, 2019 3:34 PM

    Two. My dad must be turning in his grave at my small contribution, bearing in mind how prolific he was .Any how being one of eighteen should make up for my short-fall.

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  • @ David October 16, 2019 3:48 PM

    That’s not a very ‘fair’ comment, Blogmaster!

    Of course ‘decent’ Bajans want to welcome the brothers and sisters from overseas especially for the little ‘trah-la’ in foreign currency or a barrel of big-country goodies.

    But why invite people to your place- whether family friends or guests- with your house in one hell of a mess?

    Would you invite people accustomed to all kinds of mod-cons to your house when the two WC’s are broken because of the unreliability of water supply and with only a pit toilet and dry towel in the yard to ease the discomfort?

    Let Bajans, starting with the government, clean up the nasty stinking foul smelling island and show people from overseas that they still possess a modicum of old fashioned pride and industry and a healthy respect for their private and public hygiene practices.

    And don’t talk about lack of resources! Cleaning up the place does not require and significant use of foreign exchange; just the effective deployment of the existing materiel and underutilized manpower resources.

    Why take unnecessary risks with the health and safety of the nation with its one-cylinder economy call tourism?

    An ounce of prevention of communicable diseases is worth a billion dollars in forex savings.

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  • “Why is it that those who cower behind fake names tend to criticise those who use their real names, for not being as rude, defamatory, and reckless in their comments as themselves?”

    Is this the same Grenville last election when i used my real name on Facebook to critique his utter shite…BLOCKED ME…lol..then we heard he was actually violating his own member’s CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS..and they had to run from him to Atherley’s party…

    and got the NERVE…to actually POST THIS SHITE…

    “are outside of the reach of the dangerous BLP/DLP political operatives, and have nothing to lose, remain so terrified of the consequences that they feel compelled to use fake names?”

    so see, you are not any damn different to the two loser political parties….how could you be…yall went to the same schools and drank the same backward, arrogant poison.

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  • Grenville…stay in ya lane, ya don’t know who is who..lol

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  • Miller

    It is the barbados family planning ass which singlehandedly and forever altered the reproductive rates in barbados.

    That this same organization could now be talking about the effectiveness of their hedonic activities by gollop et al should be seen as a criminal pleading guilty.

    Gollop and his pals did not want to know about the devil, the eugenecist movement, whose agenda they were implementing.

    How come nobody in barbados makes these arguments. Mugabe is a family friend. Gollop dead and gone but these familial cleaverges can’t die.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Grenville Phillips “Answer me three questions.”

    I have no idea.

    That said I have truly never met a BLP/DLP operative, or if I have I did not recognize them as such.

    Why do I not use my real name? ONE: It is more fun to use a fake name. TWO: If I use my real name, people generally will look at who said what, instead of looking at what was said.

    Please note as well that while I have criticised your ideas i have never criticised you, because I don’t know you. I only know the bit of you that you have chosen to reveal on this blog and on the Solutions Barbados webpage.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @robert lucasOctober 16, 2019 5:08 PM

    Since you dad was so ahhh!!! dutiful, I will give you a pass.

    You are hereby relieved of any obligation to add to the humas species.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @PachamamaOctober 16, 2019 6:18 PM “It is the barbados family planning ass which singlehandedly and forever altered the reproductive rates in barbados.”

    So haw many children have you contributed to Barbados? And did you raise them in a loving home.

    if you have contributed 0 or 1 or 2, then shut up.

    If you haven’t walked the walk, you have lost your right to talk the talk.

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  • ” WATER

    The water service in Barbados is reliable and the water supply is safe and refreshing to drink straight from the tap.”

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Pachamama it was you, not the BFPA that drove of walked to the store, bought the extra large pack of condoms, the one containing 144 rubbers, and it was you, not the BFPA who each time put one on your pen is, because sex is fun, but raising children is brutal hard labour, and YOU decided that you liked fun more than you liked hard labour.

    You were and are free to be like Lucas’ father, beget and raise 18 children well.

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  • Sir, whoever you are

    We suspect you will have a problem with women doing anything but wicking and being butch

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  • WARU: I rarely block persons on Facebook. Only those who repeatedly post recklessly proven false and highly defamatory comments are even considered. Once that person is confirmed as a yardfowl, whose only interest is in trying to trap me in a defamation claim, they are blocked.

    I am very tolerant of any view, regardless of how rudely it is given, as anyone who reads my Facebook sites can verify. I also do not mind engaging in extremely vigorous discussion, regardless of how rude or reckless the commenter is. You have to be a truly despicable individual to be blocked my me.

    Yardfowls (extreme politically partisan supporters), who have sacrificed their integrity, and sold their soul to their political party, are the worst of us.

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  • @Miller

    There is constructive criticism and then there is the partisan BS the usual suspects post.

    Do you think the government will be motivated to slap a coat of paint on the walls of Barbados? before We Gatherin?

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Grenville
    This is one of your better contributions. Thank you.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Grenville October 16, 2019 8:32 AM
    “Prior to our independence, the planters and merchants wanted to control the masses if they got ‘out of hand’. During slavery, they used the military. After slavery they used the police.”
    +++++++++++++
    All very true… but you forgot the most important means of control, the Church. Why did the Bishop of London in 1808 urge that enslaved people in Barbados be converted to Christianity??
    In order to develop “… a race of young Christian negroes…” who would be exemplary for their “… humility, submission, and obedience to their masters;”*
    It certainly seems to have worked like a charm.

    *Beilby Porteous, Bishop of London, “A Letter to the Governors, Legislatures, and Proprietors of Plantations in the British West India Islands.” (London, 1808).

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  • Hi Peter:

    Jesus explained to those who wanted to follow Him, that God alone should be feared, not other people.

    “And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” (Matthew 10:28)

    It is mostly for this reason that the Church is normally feared by despots, because it can facilitate people being connected to their Creator. People connected to their Creator find their place as sons and daughters of God, and are unlikely to be intimidated by other people, including leaders.

    At that time, the planters were discouraging slaves from attending Church (where they were also taught to read). The Bishop was writing to planters and leaders to convince them to allow slaves to be taught by the Church – and he was laying it on thick.

    Connecting to your Creator is like taking the red pill – and following the narrow path that relatively few are on because it is difficult. Here is Jesus again.

    “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. BECAUSE narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.” (Matthew 7:13-14)

    Unfortunately, most choose the blue pill, and encourage others to do the same.

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  • @ David,

    Can we have a blog for those of us who want to make suggestions ?

    Suggested title.

    We Gatherin..Wuh we gine do.

    I would like to see some of the musicians currently living in the Diaspora returning and performing.

    A few old time themed ” Dance at de Drill Hall or YMPC” fetes….rice an stew and pork chops.lol

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  • @PLT

    Have a look at flatironschool.com. Right up your street.

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