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Two of the most newsworthy and jaw dropping events to have rocked the local political scene in the last 18 months were – the decimation of the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) in the last general election, AND, the arrest of former DLP minister Donville Inniss in the United States.

BU pages must record Donville Inniss entered a plea of NOT GUILTY and the case is scheduled to be heard in October 28, 2019. He is charged with laundering USD36,000 derived from a bribe offered by former employees of Insurance Corporation of Barbados Limited (ICBL) Alex Tasker and Ingrid Innes. Said monies were wired by ICBL to the principal of a dental company domiciled in New York with Inniss the beneficiary. Disclosures in documents filed by the United States Attorney Office revealed Inniss’ troubles were said to be linked to political rivals trying to frame him.

Since the news of Inniss arrest there is a sub story that has not been subjected to the full glare of public scrutiny. We have our moribund traditional media to hold accountable for reneging on its mandate to pursue truth. A reminder the media is referred to as the guardian of truth:-

The purpose, ‘raison d’être’, of this fourth element is to act as an counterbalance, a systemically opposite force that is to report, verify and question matters of governance, public matters as well as commercial ones, conducted by the powers, we the people, have entrusted it with and bestowed upon – On the role of journalism: facts vs

The Commissioner of Police (CoP) Tyrone Griffith is on the record he will not investigate the matter involving ICBL – a company incorporated in Barbados – identified as the source of Donville’s legal trouble. The CoP’s position was supported by Assistant Commissioner of Police (ACoP) in charge of crime Eucklyn Thompson who was also quoted in the press:

We can only deal with what is available to us. We can’t go by any speculation or that kind of thing. We will deal [with] whatever comes before us in terms of evidence… and the investigative process . . . . We will definitely do our part. But in terms of names mentioned and that kind of thing so being put on the table, that’s not what it is – Barbados police won’t touch case involving former gov’t minister Inniss

Alex Tasker

The substance of the police position is that they must have a complaint lodged in order to pursue any matter. The idiocy of the CoP and the ACoP declared position is that AG Dale Marshall urged the police chief to launch an investigation into bribery allegations involving Inniss and the Bermudian-owned, Barbados-based ICBL. However, as an independent body, the RBPF cannot be legally instructed by a Cabinet minister to undertake investigations; that role is reserved for the Crown’s Director of Public Prosecutions. Another WTF moment.

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We know that US court documents implicate former ICBL employees Alex Tasker and Ingrid Innes. We know that the local employee implicated in the alleged bribing of Donville Inniss  was fired by ICBL and also had to part ways from Digicel as Executive Chairman. To the blogmaster’s simple way of thinking there is enough for the police to initiate an investigation. Instead what we have is business as usual with the authority class closing ranks in BIM.

 


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226 responses to “The Donville Inniss Sub Story”

  1. Barbados Underground Whilstelblower Avatar
    Barbados Underground Whilstelblower

    How did it take 15 years to bring to court a case involving an allegstion of sexual assault against a minor.

    What was everybody in the system doing?
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    COLLUDING


  2. Simple Simon,

    The only satisfaction we can have is that he couldn’t have been comfortable for any of those fifteen years with the case hanging over his head.

    This is an indication of how seriously our government takes its responsibility to our children. No wonder so many young people have no respect for “authority”.

    We are told by the government that we MUST send our children to school unless we can prove that we are able to match the standards of this failing educational system. We send our daughter to school,. She is raped and then the self same government does nothing to seek justice for the child for fifteen years.

    But if I as a parent accost the criminal on the school premises and take matters into my own hands I would be the wrongest person in Barbados.

    Thank God I did not have a daughter.


  3. “The educator, who was 43 years old at the time of the alleged offence, had been accused of having sexual intercourse with a 13-year-old girl, sometime between November 1 and 30, 2002.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    How can so wide a period be used in the prosecution of the alleged crime?

    What hour of the day or night did it happen?

    When was the charge brought?

    Does the victim know where the alleged crime was committed?

    Are they witnesses?

    Something very weird about this one.

    Seems like we been through all this already with Judge Kavanaugh.


  4. The only satisfaction we can have is that he couldn’t have been comfortable for any of those fifteen years with the case hanging over his head.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Like any of us present in Barbados he was constitutionally due a speedy trial!!

    Can he sue the GOB for damages now?

    If he wins (assuming he not she) the taxpayers will foot the bill!!


  5. “How is it that we have never heard that justice delayed is justice denied?

    How did it take 15 years to bring to court a case involving an allegstion of sexual assault against a minor.”

    they are evil minded like that, even other teachers helped cover up the rape of that child, they have no moral core, none of them…let’s hope Karma touches each and every one of these beasts..


  6. “My question is “how far is it from slow to stop?”

    “And “do we really want to move from slow to stop.”

    ya have already stopped…

    and you need look no further than the corrupt in the parliament, the tiefing lawyers and the minority criminals they collude with….for culprits, no one else is protected Enuff to commit those levels of crimes against the people and country.


  7. So wait with all the accusations and allegations and filed charges flying left and right
    Wasn’t an acussed / charged rapist /Roy Morris hired by Mia Mottley to be a spoke person for govt
    There is no one in present govt or their supporters who can point fingers against any one about moral misconduct
    A friendly reminder people living in glass houses should not throw stone


  8. Having survived the horror, the victim may be made to relive it again.
    I can imagine a thoughtless approaching the victim with an opening line…”I hope that you get justice,. It was such a long time I almost forgot that you got **** by a teacher,

    Victimized again. Let the case die. Stop pretending you have a working legal system. It is doing more harm than good.


  9. by the talk here Bim is the most corrupt place on earth. everyone in authority involved in a conspiracy (no word in law called collusion) against the people of Barbados. who are crooks are rapists or hate black people.

    in reality Bim is no more corrupt that first world countries. i dear some of the posters here to carry on with US police like how we carry on with Bim police. and dont talk american justice system tell that to afro americans who come up against this justice on a daily basis?

    someone here posted that the police only need probable cause or some american mumbo jumbo to investigate a matter. wrong. crimes against the person and crimes against property need someone to complain.

    the police may do something if an offence of this nature takes place in their presence but ultimately if a person who is assaulted or a person whose property is criminally damaged does not make a complaint or give a statement there is nothing the police can do. or if the police hears about a crime of this nature after the fact (on video) should they go and arrest the perpetrator without a complaint?

    in this matter with Inniss in Bim even if we conclude that the police should investigate without a complaint (a view i dont share) why (and i re-iterate) hasnt Marshall direct someone from the civil service to complain or why hasnt ICBL who cooperated with the Feds not do the right thing and go to the police with the same documents they handed over to the Feds and admit to bribery?

    wouldnt that solve the issue of a complaint and or a confession?


  10. @ Greene September 23, 2019 8:05 AM

    Does your scenario of ‘needing someone to complain before the police can take action apply when the perceived crime involves a minor (or minors)?

    Who makes complaints when sexual acts involving minors are circulated over the internet? The Public?

    Should we guess that you have never heard about the criminal law governing “Online Child Sexual Exploitation (OCSE)?


  11. How can a person with an allegation as bad a rape where charges were filed sits in high position in govt as a spokes person
    What does such a justification lead by govt says about a society


  12. @ Greene

    Barbados may not be more corrupt than some developed nations, although personally I think incompetence is a bigger problem, but as a small nation the impact of ‘corruption’ and character assassination is greater.
    We are badly in need or moral leadership and the church is failing us. Just read the contributions on BU, especially from a regular gang whose only contributions are to criticise and smear, never a positive contribution, from men (and they are nearly all men) in their late middle aged or pensioners.
    There are a set of behaviours which I term collectively the Bajan Condition which explains all this. Read the Civilising Process by Norbert Elias, although it is about Western Europe, it has a message for Barbados.


  13. Miller what do u expect from these backward, miseducated ignoramuses PRETENDING to be knowldgeable..

    Wuh it was just a few years ago 2 or 3beditors from Nationnews, me thinks if i remember that an accused child rapist was one…posted on the newspaper 2 minor children having sex…for the world to see…and no one, especially the CORRUPT judiciary saw anything wrong with that….ya done know that child rape is not only CONDONED…but ENCOURAGED…

    …..a corrupt system with corrupt likeminded beasts = a CORRUPT UNCARING SOCIETY..

    None of that can ever be cleaned up….


  14. @ Greene September 23, 2019 8:05 AM
    ” in this matter with Inniss in Bim even if we conclude that the police should investigate without a complaint (a view i dont share) why (and i re-iterate) hasnt Marshall direct someone from the civil service to complain or why hasnt ICBL who cooperated with the Feds not do the right thing and go to the police with the same documents they handed over to the Feds and admit to bribery?”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Agree 100 %!

    It’s all about doing or returning favours to political friends pretending to be opponents.
    As William Skinner always points out, it’s a mere exchange of actors in the great theatre performance called the ‘Rule of the Duopoly’ whose motto is “One for All and All for One”.

    The same Pornville guy tried to breach the motto and like a Judas was instrumental in undermining his political boss thereby weakening his administration leading to MAM’s exploitation of this internal coup.

    Thing is the Don got hoisted by his own power-hungry petard; never believed he would have lost his SJS seat shattering his expectations of becoming the LoO and, now impossible, the next PM after his first school girlfriend demits office.


  15. the law recognises a person which can be a body corporate or a person over a certain age and with a certain mental capacity.

    where there i a child not of age that person is either represented by an appropriate adult or the state where there is none.

    this is so when under age child is assaulted sexually or otherwise. sometimes the matter never gets to court because the appropriate adults does not want to embarrass the child or bring attention to the matter or cannot get the child to cooperate or gets paid off by the prep.

    sometimes the state force the matter to court but the victim either says nothing on the stand, recant or say they want nothing further to do with the matter.

    crimes like drugs, murder etc for obvious reasons have the crown, state as the complainant / victim


  16. Yes John, he could sue the government for the lack of a speedy trial, but how long would it take for that case to be completed?

  17. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @JohnSeptember 22, 2019 11:39 PM “How can so wide a period be used in the prosecution of the alleged crime? When was the charge brought? Are they witnesses? Seems like we been through all this already with Judge Kavanaugh.”

    It seems that the charges were brought at the beginning n the century, but 15 years passed between the bringing of the charges and the time the case got to court.

    There are almost never witnesses to rape. But there is almost always biological evidence. So you believe that Judge Kavanaugh is as innocent as the driven snow? What if it was your 13 year old daughter who came home and said “daddy the teacher, my neighbour, my step father, the pastor had sex with me.”


  18. “Thing is the Don got hoisted by his own power-hungry petard; never believed he would have lost his SJS seat shattering his expectations of becoming the LoO and, now impossible, the next PM after his first school girlfriend demits office.”

    Lol..


  19. he can only sue the govt if speedy trial rules exist in Bim. do they? abuse of process is the better option or the legal phrase to be used in our jurisdiction


  20. @SirSimple “What if it was your 13 year old daughter who came home and said “daddy the teacher, my neighbour, my step father, the pastor had sex with me.”

    Dear Sir, That is when FearPlay would PlayFear into the hearts of the ungodly and go on to enjoying a carefree life while the courts dillyed and dallyed. And therein lies the problem that we are creating. When the citizen no longer has faith in the courts delivering justice, then the citizen will take justice into their own hands.

    Have you ever heard of a drug dealer taking a foot soldier to court because he is owed money?


  21. The majority of commenters on this blog are likely to be black Bajans.

    Two people were accused of bribery and one of accepting a bribe.

    Yet there is a relentless attack on the ” one ” and a free pass is given to the ” two “.

    Is it the lighter skin and the ” pretty hair ” of the female of the accused briber ?

    Or maybe receiving bribes is a bigger crime than paying them.

    Buh doan mine me.

    In my ” home and native land ‘ I trying to decide if to vote for a PM who was racially insensitive enough to wear black and brown face.


  22. @ Fearplay

    You have to be very careful with statements like these where you said and I quote

    “…And therein lies the problem that we are creating.

    When the citizen no longer has faith in the courts delivering justice, then the citizen will take justice into their own hands…”

    The last time something like that was said it happened during the Fumble Stewart administration

    It was during the Michael Carry-away-a-ton of money incident.

    And the suggestion of alternative solutions by citizens who get dem money teif by lawyers, utilizing their own justice, cause de courts ENT DOING ONE SHY$E, invoked the wrath of ManyPussy and colleagues.

    Dem even talk bout “killing lawyers being sedition and ting”

    Just as an academic question de ole man wonders what quantity of these lawyers need to get killed, to stop the practice of them teifing client funds?

    Would 4 be a nice round number?

    Here is a Stoopid Cartoon that brings the disturbing practice of commingling client funds to mind.

    http://imgur.com/qV7vxv8


  23. @ Greene September 23, 2019 8:48 AM

    We recognize your argument(s) regarding the role of the State in certain criminal matters and in the case of minors acting in loco parentis.

    So what would be the factor(s) which would trigger a mandatory investigation by the police where a minor is involved and the parent(s) / guardian refuse to make a formal complaint?

    By monitoring discussions over the Internet/social media?

    The State has a ‘mandatory’ duty of care to minors.

    Along with its ratification of the UNICEF Charter of the Rights of the Child’ its local child care laws require that the relevant agencies exercise this duty in cases where there are allegations of criminal ‘wrong’ against children; even if the parents refuse to make a formal complaint (to avoid embarrassment) or are paid off by the alleged perpetrator(s) to keep their mouths shut.

    Any deviation from this duty of care should result in prosecution of the parent/guardian and even the principals of the agencies tasked with the legal responsibility to protect the rights of the child victim.

    What we would like to hear from you is your position of the Bribery Act and Anti-Money Laundering legislation.

    Whom would you expect to be the ‘complainant(s)’?

    The people involved in the bribe/ money-laundering or the officers ‘manning’ the FIU whose responsibility it is to examine all information on any alleged criminal activity of a financial nature?

    Isn’t that what is done by other crime fighting arms of the same law enforcement agency as is preached by the promoters of the Crimestoppers programme?
    Who are the complainants in these cases involving drug pushing, ‘illegal possession of firearms or even the handling stolen goods?

    The anonymous civic minded person called Joe Bloggs?

  24. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @GreeneSeptember 23, 2019 8:05 AM “someone here posted that the police only need probable cause or some american mumbo jumbo to investigate a matter. wrong. crimes against the person and crimes against property need someone to complain.”

    REASONABLE and PROBABLE cause is NOT American mumbo-jumbo.

    It is is long established legal principle. Much older than 1776, therefore older than the United States of America.

    And as I also pointed out murder victims only rarely lay a complaint.

    Yet murderers are convicted even though the victim has not complained.


  25. Miller…same stinking child rapist the wicked miseducated ministry put him back in contact with vulnerable child victims. Parents should be actively agitating, not just warning other parents..to have that 2 legged animal removed and not sent to another school to rape another child.

    “I got wind of this a couple month back when a past student (now a parent) raised the alarm after seeing him at an orientation session at Foundation school for a new crop of Common Entrance students, and was truly astounded. If this is, indeed, the same case, this “teacher” about 20 years ago intimidated and impregnated at least at one girl and somehow got – away with it. She subsequently suffered a nervous breakdown. The poster said she was a good friend of the victim, who had to leave school, and said it significantly hampered her friend’s life. Meanwhile, incredibly, the teacher suffered no repercussions. The person in question was warning parents about what to expect with him back among the teaching staff.”

  26. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    But maybe you think that the British House of Lords are also repeating AMERICAN mumbo-jumbo.

    No wonder Hal Austin does havta come on here all the time and tell wunna that wunna learnt by rote.


  27. Thought a little more about this John and it has occurred to me that if had been in the position of that teacher and the evidence had been that flimsy and if I KNEW MYSELF TO BE INNOCENT I would have been agitating most visibly and consistently for a trial to clear my name.

    Just saying……….

  28. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @GreeneSeptember 23, 2019 8:05 AM “in reality Bim is no more corrupt that first world countries. i dear [CORRECTION dare} some of the posters here to carry on with US police like how we carry on with Bim police. and dont talk american justice system tell that to afro americans who come up against this justice on a daily basis? someone here posted that the police only need probable cause or some american mumbo jumbo to investigate a matter. wrong. crimes against the person and crimes against property need someone to complain.”

    And before you come here “educating” me on important legal principles, learn what I learnt in Infants B.

    Dear is what you call your spouse. it is also what you call expensive goods. Eg. My dear I love you. The tomatoes are dear today

    Dare is when I challenge you. I dare you to jump off the Golden Gate bridge.

    If the U.S. police and justice systems are corrupt, and “yes” they are corrupt, do we have to follow along? Can’t we do better? Must we not do better?

    Nobody is claiming the Bajans are the most corrupt people on the face of the earth, but any corruption is bad, and must be rooted out.

  29. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    According to the Sunday Sun, a statement by an official of the Ministry of Education “we have to follow the General Orders”

    I have some questions for ths official

    One: are the General Orders DEFECTIVE?

    Two: If the General Orders defective, what is your plan for having the orders fixed so that they are an effective means of regulating the tax paid servants of the people, including your tax paid self?

    Three: This government has a 2/3 majority in both Houses, right?


  30. simple simon

    i have no issues with you correcting my english whatsoever. i would not even submit a defence. knock yourself out.

    in our law we talk about reasonable suspicion or reasonable grounds to suspect for the most part not probable cause. probable cause is american legal lingo that probably amounts to the same thing.

    i (dear or it is dare) challenge you to find more than one appearance of reasonable or probable cause in our law


  31. @ Greene September 23, 2019 10:45 AM

    We (Simple Simon et al) ‘dare’ you, Sleuth Greene, to address the issue involving tips made to the police via the local Crimestoppers programme.

    Why not tell us who would be the needed “complainants” when the police carry out investigations and in some case raids based on ‘tips’ (unsubstantiated hearsay evidence) received via this so-called crime fighting programme?

    In the absence of any ‘known complainant’ on what basis does the police apply for search warrants where suspected evidence is being concealed?

    Of course, My ‘Dear’ Greene, you would avoid (and quite ‘daringly’ so) these questions like how your old boss “Shun A Frog” avoided a pothole by killing a pedestrian.

  32. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @HantsSeptember 23, 2019 9:35 AM “The majority of commenters on this blog are likely to be black Bajans. Two people were accused of bribery and one of accepting a bribe. Yet there is a relentless attack on the ” one ” and a free pass is given to the ” two “. Is it the lighter skin and the ” pretty hair ” of the female.”

    One of the accused was on the taxpayers payroll. Being aud wid we tax money. Very likely still being paid a pension outta we money. That is why he is being given a hard time. We know that we was paying he good good.

    Most people likely do not do any business with ICBL so those non-ICBL people don’t care one way or the other about the hairy woman and the other chappie . Personally I am not into hairy females.


  33. simple simon

    wrt murder- how can a victim complain when he she is dead. that is why i said this in a previous post-crimes like drugs, murder etc for obvious reasons have the crown, state as the complainant / victim

    wrt reasonable grounds to suspect or reasonable grounds for suspecting- this pertains to police powers in searching or arresting a suspect of a crime or to carry out some act pursuant to a suspect. this is where something unlawful may have occurred in the presence of the police or when the police are investigating a crime and encounter the suspect .

    it has v little if anything to do with the commencement of an investigation

  34. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @GreeneSeptember 23, 2019 11:20 AM “simple simon. wrt murder- how can a victim complain when he she is dead.”

    People do not always die on the same day they are injured. And sometimes the injured party lays a complaint, and then dies minutes, hours, days, weeks, or months later.


  35. miller

    who is shun a frog?

    listen man, are you really a Cawmerian?

    when police get tips they are developed. meaning the police go and collect evidence to corroborate the tips. this can come in the form of witness statements or documents.

    same for search warrants- there must be something to base them on. and in any case a search warrant is to get evidence pursuant to a crime

    wrt your previous question re FIU- the FIU in Bim is an intelligence collecting body and in some jurisdictions there is a reporting of any suspicious activity in the FIU’s mandate. the FIU in Bim is not an investigative and any suspicions they have is passed onto the police for action

    as afar as i am aware the Bribery Act at least the one in the UK imposes a condition that if you suspect that a bribe is taking place you must report it to the police. in addition companies must ensure that they have effective and up to date anti bribery policies

    has it not dawned on you that i may be a lawyer and or a DI?


  36. Ahem, that unfortunately is not likely to elicit any trust in your pronouncements, Greene. How many lawyers are in the House of Assembly? Some would now be more convinced that you are not really Greene but red or yellow.

  37. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @MrGreene you offer interesting comments filled with details…the fact that you may also mistate or obfuscate those details on occassion is annoying but realitically par for course in blogging. It is misleading (misstated!) To say: “someone here posted that the police only need probable cause or some american mumbo jumbo to investigate a matter.”

    NO. The fact was made that probable cause or suspicion is only needed to investigate a PERSON’s actions NOT a MATTER as in the context of this Donville affair. You can ONLY have a suspicion or deem probanle cause in a MATTER like this based on a preponderance of circumstantial evidence … quite similar yet differing sides of the same criminal law investigation coin!

    The issue of “probable cause” in US or “suspicion of a possible crime” in UK is taught in criminal Law 101(depending on where you are) …that you would label such a BASIC tenent mumbo jumbo is strange, to say the least!

    This conflating of a murder investigation when a body is evident with other criminal matters like fraud and bribery is nonsensical…. the police MUST act when there is clear evidence of a crime being committed (like a homicide)…that’s obvious and its the LAW.

  38. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Aha @Simple at 957AM above…I missed your post…well in fact I started mine prior to your posting and was distracted on other matters before completing and posting …you had already clarified the strange remarks re probable cause from the blogger @Greene!

    It amazes me that although we have (had) a law Dean regularly educating us on the law and drawing our attention to legel dictums in US jurisprudence which had persuasive power on our English common law (from which US laws were also based) that we continue to speak of US legal practices as if there are orphan children totally unrelated to our legal discourse.


  39. Why just recently my attorney, taking me for a fool, told me two crazy “interpretations” of my rights which could easily be debunked with a simple internet search, if I had in fact needed it.

    And the reason why he thought I should listen to him was because “I am speaking to you as an ATTORNEY!” That was supposed to intimidate me so I would not challenge his lies purposely told in his own interests.


  40. Donna
    September 23, 2019 8:58 AM

    Yes John, he could sue the government for the lack of a speedy trial, but how long would it take for that case to be completed?

    Thought a little more about this John and it has occurred to me that if had been in the position of that teacher and the evidence had been that flimsy and if I KNEW MYSELF TO BE INNOCENT I would have been agitating most visibly and consistently for a trial to clear my name.
    Just saying……….

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Guilty or innocent, why not just sit tight, receive the monthly salary for doing nothing and let the failure that is the justice system fail in this individual case.

    Then, work out a deal with the GOB to avoid suing and embarrassing the State!!

    If the educator is guilty, the only loser is the child.

    If innocent, everybody wins!!

    “In his first speech as Chancellor, Hitler emphasized the core value of National Socialism: the individual is nothing outside the State.”

    Socialism sucks!!


  41. let me restate this. the police do not need probable cause or any of the american mumbo jumbo to investigate any offence. reasonable grounds for suspecting pertains to the committing of an offence or to police carrying out an action pertaining to a suspect or some activity of a suspicious nature that has taken place in police presence.

    the reason to investigate comes mostly from some complaint verbally or in writing to police. a person may call the police and report a crime or go to the police and report a crime.

    or the police on patrol may see something that draw their attention like a drug deal or a person with housebreaking implements and their actions may cause police to have reasonable grounds to suspect.

    in the case of a reported crime, from the outcome of talking to the victim and or gathering further evidence police may have rounds for suspecting a crime has been committed and go out searching for the suspect.

    corruption, bribery, fraud are not on the face it matters that readily lend themselves to an investigation without a complaint spelling out what actually happened or was suspected to have have happened by a victim or a complainant- not always the same.

    in a complex matter like inniss’s where there is a suspected payment to a govt minister to facilitate a contract, how would the police know what to look out for without knowing the details of the matter. some say the US case tell us what it is about. yes it does but how can police use it? can they then go to ICBL and ask them to talk when they are the bribers or suspect? can they go to a govt department and ask for records? of course but will said govt department readily hand over such docs and who is going to speak to those documents and tell what they are about?

    wouldnt it be better for a govt official who no doubt have heard the same stories gather the documents, compile the story around the documents and report the matter to the police?


  42. @Greene

    We have reached a point where we are being played for fools by the authority class. The ICBL have shown themselves to be cooperative in this matter. We need our authority figures to act in the interest of the public.


  43. @ Greene September 23, 2019 11:39 AM
    “wrt your previous question re FIU- the FIU in Bim is an intelligence collecting body and in some jurisdictions there is a reporting of any suspicious activity in the FIU’s mandate. the FIU in Bim is not an investigative and any suspicions they have is passed onto the police for action…”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Forget about the “Cawmerian” red herring! Aren’t both you and Hal “cawmerians”?

    Your reference to the local FIU is clear evidence that you have shot yourself in your foot. Who is expecting the FIU to investigate?

    We see it in the same light as the Auditor General’s office. That is, to draw to the attention of the formal investigating agency any financial irregularities that fall under the ambit of the anti-money laundering legislation.

    Isn’t there evidence in the public space that an ‘alleged act’ of money laundering has taken place wrt ICBL and two of its former employees and involving a former minister of the Crown?

    So why not pass on the “suspicions” of money laundering to the “police for action”?

    Can’t you see ‘some’ parallel between the FIU and the de facto police informant called Crimestoppers?

    BTW, do you know if any investigations were carried out with respect to the alleged gun matter (involving a threat to limb and life) between a member of the then Opposition and a former minister of the Crown in the precincts of the HoA despite a formal complaint being made to the police by one of the parties?

    Why can’t you just do what Barbados Undeground Whistleblower does rather well and call a spade a spade even if it involves ‘fingering’ some of your fellow members of the local Bill?


  44. “Why just recently my attorney, taking me for a fool, told me two crazy “interpretations” of my rights which could easily be debunked with a simple internet search, if I had in fact needed it.”

    sigh!!!

    just tell them..look i am on the internet and if you fcuk around, am taking your ass right there with me,…that pretty much cures tham of that shite..

    don’t waste any energy..


  45. miller

    you are all over the place man. i dont see the relevance of any of your submissions. they are tenuous at best and incoherent in the end


  46. @ Greene September 23, 2019 12:30 PM
    “..in a complex matter like inniss’s where there is a suspected payment to a govt minister to facilitate a contract, how would the police know what to look out for without knowing the details of the matter. some say the US case tell us what it is about. yes it does but how can police use it? can they then go to ICBL and ask them to talk when they are the bribers or suspect? can they go to a govt department and ask for records? of course but will said govt department readily hand over such docs and who is going to speak to those documents and tell what they are about?

    wouldnt it be better for a govt official who no doubt have heard the same stories gather the documents, compile the story around the documents and report the matter to the police?”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    There you go again not really knowing what you are trying to sell.

    In other words not knowing your legislation elbow from your bullshitting arse.

    Why don’t you have a read of the local Anti-Money Laundering Act and see what are the duties and responsibilities of the Anti-Money Laundering Authority and its executive body the FIU?

    If you were to play a ‘get-out-of-jail’ card by arguing that the FIU and the official investigating agency do not currently possess the technical expertise -or even esprit de coeur in crime fighting- to perform such work in solving such a sophisticated white collar criminal act, allegedly, (unlike pushing drugs in the Orleans) then we would be prepared to sympathize with your rather weak position.


  47. @ Greene September 23, 2019 1:02 PM

    Of course you would retort in such a manner. Fire back ad hominems instead of plausible replies.

    But remind us the wandering folks, what’s the difference between taking a bribe by a minister of the crown and accepting gifts of surveillance cameras to assist in fighting crime?


  48. Miller

    the Bim FIU is not an investigative body. are you disagreeing with this?


  49. It is not. The unit collects info identify trends and will forward to the police/DPP when required.

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