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Responding to the vote, European Council President Donald Tusk tweeted: “In view of the rejection of the Withdrawal Agreement by the House of Commons, I have decided to call a European Council on 10 April – Brexit: MPs reject May’s EU withdrawal agreement

Some of us have been observing an amazing event playing out in the United Kingdom triggered by the June 23, 2016 Brexit referendum. The result of the vote was the UK people voted to leave the European Union 53% to 47%.

Post Brexit one can accurately state that the British government has become consumed with the Brexit issue to the extent it has been largely ineffective implementing other policies to move the country forward.

Through the eyes of a blogmaster domiciled in a former colony, it forces one to reflect on what the post Brexit chaos portends for Barbados. The Westminster system is one we attempt to model and as it stands our working committees of parliament are continually being exposed to be ineffective – the Public Accounts Committee, Committee of Privileges to name two.

What conclusion can we make in light of what we know? Are citizens of Barbados in a position to observe what is playing out in the ‘mother country’ to stridently demand changes to the governance system?

What do we have: Theresa May’s Brexit plan rejected for the umpteenth time. 344 votes to 286. Before the labourites start to crow, Jeremy Corbyn’s plan has not gained traction either. A right old mess in old Blighty.

While the focus is on if the UK government will be able to do a houdini to save an orderly Brexit. The blogmaster is reminded to ask what triggered the leave campaign? The answer to this question exposes a dormant concern of citizens everywhere.

 

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107 responses to “Brexit, Bullocks!”

  1. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff
    March 30, 2019 at 7:58 pm

    FreedomCrier
    Stop talking piss!!

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  2. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson
    March 30, 2019 at 8:10 pm

    @Freedom Crier
    “PTL let me point out to you how you are thinking…”
    +++++++++++
    You are wrong in every respect: I hate authoritarian regimes of every sort and I love wisdom. I also have great respect for democracy, which is why I think there should be a second referendum about Brexit now that people know that the leave campaign was fraudulent.

    The investment climate in Britain has indeed changed… foreign investment has fallen by 92% since 2016. Those are the facts.

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  3. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife
    March 30, 2019 at 8:32 pm

    @Enuff March 30, 2019 7:58 PM “FreedomCrier. Stop talking piss!!”

    Thanks Enuff.

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  4. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife
    March 30, 2019 at 8:50 pm

    @SirFuzzy (Former Sheep) March 30, 2019 5:04 PM. “As a parent you have the right to do what u think is best for your child.”

    Parents doNOT own their children.

    Parents do not have the right to expose their children to a dangerous disease which can be easily prevented by vaccination.

    I first came on this blog when the late ROK was arguing for Barbados to conduct a study by not vaccinating some children, while vaccinating others to see the outcome.

    I vociferously argued that the effectiveness of vaccines had long been proven, and that it would be both foolish and wrong for government to do such a useless study, and for parents to permit their children to be part of such a study.

    Now here we are maybe a decade later and it seems young parents have become more vaccine hesitant, and children are becoming sick needlessly. Just yesterday in the media the Ministry of health in Trinidad has expressed its concern.

    Meanwhile in New York according to the BBC”New York county declares measles outbreak emergency. A county in New York state has declared a state of emergency following a severe outbreak of measles. Rockland County, on the Hudson river north of New York City, has barred unvaccinated children from public spaces after 153 cases were confirmed.”

    Parents must take their medical advice from proper doctors and nurses, and not from silly social media celebrities.

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  5. David Avatar
    David
    March 30, 2019 at 10:06 pm

    @Sid Boyce

    Is it about party be it Tories or Labour or more about how England defines its relationship with neighbours the EU.

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  6. Freedom Crier Avatar
    Freedom Crier
    March 31, 2019 at 8:05 am

    That there was a Big Hugh and Cry after the BREXIT movement and everybody was predicting Doom & Gloom. Since then in 2018 things changed, PLT you are talking about the Business Investment that shrank but you are Not looking at the Production side…You are Cherry picking Data to support your Doom and Gloom as you have stated several times that Brittan is a failed State…Far From…The Economy is doing fine although unevenly…Some sectors are doing better than others.

    UK Q3 GDP Growth Confirmed at Near 2-Year High

    UK economy grows at fastest rate since late 2016. The UK economy grew by 0.6% in the three months to September, with warm weather boosting consumer spending, the Office for National Statistics said. The figure for the third quarter is in line with predictions from the Bank of England and other forecasters. Nov 9, 2018

    Britain’s quarterly economic growth was confirmed at 0.6 percent in the three months to September 2018, the strongest expansion since the last quarter of 2016 and compared to a 0.4 percent advance in the previous period. Household spending and exports were the main drivers of growth while business investment has fallen for three consecutive quarters, which has not been seen since the global financial crisis, in part due to Brexit-related economic and political uncertainty.

    From the production side, construction output growth picked up further to 2.3 percent in the three months to September from 0.5 percent in the second quarter following a weak start to the year that was affected by the heavy snowfall; while quarterly output in the manufacturing sector rose 0.4 percent, after two consecutive quarters of declines. Growth in services output slowed to 0.5 percent from 0.6 percent, following a strong summer, in part driven by buoyant food and drink sales as consumers took advantage of the warmer weather and the World Cup.

    https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/article.png?s=UKGRYBZQ%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&d2=2018-12-21

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  7. Freedom Crier Avatar
    Freedom Crier
    March 31, 2019 at 8:25 am

    PLT… “why I think there should be a second referendum about Brexit now that people know that the leave campaign was fraudulent.”

    Marxist/Socialist thinks everything is Fraudulent unless they get the Results they want…you have to look no further than Trump…

    PLT this is an Eye Witness Account…LEAVE MEANS LEAVE

    The Great Brexit Debate

    Freedom Day – March 29th, 2019

    The Atmosphere in London yesterday was incredible! Throughout the day, ten or more marches converged on Parliament Square until by 4pm the place was seething with humanity. It was the day that we were supposed to be leaving the European Union but instead we were demonstrating rather than celebrating.

    This is a montage of the day – I hope it captures the sense of energy and oaken hearted determination of tens of thousands of people who simply want the United Kingdom to be a free and independent country – thus I have called it ‘Freedom Day’.

    My day started early in Holborn, London where I met up with Olly Connelly (Daily Brexit) and Arron Brown (Fishing for Leave). Aaron had hired two marching bands who had been picked up by coach in Scotland at midnight and had driven south all through the night to be ready to march.

    After a few problems with the Metropolitan Police (supposed mistakes with the way paperwork had been completed) we headed off to Trafalgar Square where we were immediately picked up by the Mainstream Media who couldn’t help be captivated as the lads marched around the square as hundreds of tourist snapped pictures of them.

    We were only around a hundred in number but spontaneously people just started following the marching bands down Whitehall, past Downing Street and on to Parliament Square. I would guess there were closer to 500 in our throng of people by the time we arrived outside the House of Commons.

    For next few hours the area became ever more densely packed as different groups of marchers arrived including, finally, those fifty who had walked all the way from Sunderland over the last two weeks.

    At around 3.30pm I headed to the Westminster Arms (a favourite spot) with some friends and co-campaigners to see the result of the vote come in. The pub was jammed full of people with a couple of hundred spilling onto the pavement onside.

    The pub crowd fell silent as we all watched the TV screens intently. The numbers of votes were announced… ‘The Noes have it’, roared Speaker Bercow but just for a second or two you could have heard a pin drop. It literally took a second or two for it to sink-in. A result we thought could be perilously close had been won by a handsome margin – it was somehow difficult to compute.

    The pub erupted. A huge cheer went up, fists punched the air. And in that second, a great day became sublime!

    Back in Parliament Square there were now vast numbers of people tightly packed in front of the stage that Leave Means Leave had setup. As the speakers delivered their inspiring words there was an immense sense of pride and a sense of raw energy.

    There was deep anger at Members of Parliament, but a deep shared belief that we will win in the end – because we will never give up…

    I will remember that day forever.

    Robin Horsley

    https://www.facebook.com/GreatBrexitDebate/videos/407600940054135/

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  8. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa
    March 31, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Real News Folk
    The Reparations movement is in full swing in the USA and the democrats feet are being held to fire and a loud call is being asked for the democrats to show their hands for or against
    Already Bernie Sanders has been bushwahacked and weighed and found wanting on the issue if Reparations
    The Democrats might find out once again that they cannot play both sides of the fence and win the Presidency in the next general election

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  9. David Avatar
    David
    March 31, 2019 at 9:47 am

    The chaos coming out of the last referendum shows that another referendum will not solve the issues.

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  10. Bajan in NY Avatar
    Bajan in NY
    March 31, 2019 at 9:52 am

    @PLT/Hal, does th economic harm Brexit can potentially cause Ireland, Wales and Scotland make a break up of the UK union a possibility sometime in the future?

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  11. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin
    March 31, 2019 at 10:50 am

    The investment climate in Britain has indeed changed… foreign investment has fallen by 92% since 2016. Those are the facts.(Quote)

    Source plse.

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  12. Donna Avatar
    Donna
    March 31, 2019 at 11:22 am

    Read that Enoch Powell speech. That is why I come to BU. It makes me look up stuff I would not otherwise have got around to looking up.

    Seems like Britain is playing “Here we go round the Mulberry Bush” morphing into ‘Ring o’ Rosies” ending with “London Bridge is falling down”.

    It seems people will never learn.

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  13. Freedom Crier Avatar
    Freedom Crier
    March 31, 2019 at 12:10 pm

    @ Hal Austin March 31, 2019 10:50 AM

    Hal there are Statics however they are outdated. You have to understand that the English Contribute more money to the EU than it receives in Benefits and when Brittan EXITS and Knowing that the EU has Black listed Barbados, PLT obviously is concerned that he will Stand to Lose his Million Dollar Berry from the EU. So his is to Argue in Support of the EU!!

    ‘On 12 March, the Council of the 28-nations European Union (EU) placed 15 small territories on a list of what it calls “non-cooperative jurisdictions”. What the EC considers these territories to be “non-cooperative” about reveals the raw exercise of power by the strong over the weak. In this case, the firm intention of the EU is to impose its tax policies upon other nations through strong-arming’ and that includes Barbados.’

    The EU is an UN-elected Bureaucratic Body dictating to the Sovereign States within the EU their World View. The EU is in danger of being broken up and with the Advent of BREXIT they are looking for ways to get more money. They are Jealous that by the International Rules that were created by the Big Countries that some small States and that include Barbados have Out Manoeuvred these Big State Blocks in getting Revenue that the EU does Not Control.

    So please let’s put the Picture into Perspective consider looking at the EU trying to Rip Off our Nation for Taxes that is already Under Water and Drowning. Executive Taxation no matter by who is Thievery!

    So if EU can shut down the small states by labeling them Uncooperative, their hope is that these Companies HQ will move back to Europe.

    https://image.slidesharecdn.com/free-burma1536/95/free-burma-37-728.jpg?cb=1191446141

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  14. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant
    March 31, 2019 at 12:20 pm

    Straight out of Central Casting

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  15. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin
    March 31, 2019 at 12:35 pm

    @ Freedom Crier

    The investment climate in Britain has indeed changed… foreign investment has fallen by 92% since 2016. Those are the facts.(Quote)

    Plse post the outdated statistics.

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  16. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog
    March 31, 2019 at 12:40 pm

    He is such a despicable, pretentious, vile creature himself…he is a fine one to talk about the old dried up hunch back Brassierre-May.

    one Rass-Mugg…steuuppps..

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  17. David Avatar
    David
    March 31, 2019 at 3:00 pm

    Labour takes five-point lead over Tories in shock poll amid reports Theresa May could call general election this week

    • Katy Clifton
    Public support for the Labour party stands at 41 per cent, a poll has found

    Public support for the Labour party stands at 41 per cent, a poll has found ( PA/AFP )

    I would like to receive lunchtime headlines Monday – Friday plus breaking news alerts, by email

    Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour have taken a five-point lead over Theresa May’s Conservatives amid Brexit turmoil within the Tory party, according to a new poll.

    After weeks of internal conflict within the Government and three failed attempts by the Prime Minister to pass her Brexit deal, a Deltapoll survey commissioned by the Mail on Sunday has found that public support for Labour stands at 41 per cent, with the Tories on 36 per cent.

    The poll found that Labour would be on course to win 307 seats in a General Election – 19 seats short of a majority – while the Conservative party would claim 264.

    Although Labour would be short of a majority, a General Election with these results could see Mr Corbyn in Downing Street if he makes a deal with the Scottish National Party (SNP).

    It comes amid reports that Mrs May’s aides are at loggerheads over whether to accept a soft Brexit or call a general election if her deal fails again.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/shock-poll-finds-public-support-for-labour-has-soared-amid-brexit-turmoil-with-jeremy-corbyn-taking-a4105301.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0XOPyjrSXyjFg7pTAv6xQYXamIBe72PlWrkBSlcSYXCgF9EcNFXcUm68A#Echobox=1554023940

     

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  18. Bajan in NY Avatar
    Bajan in NY
    March 31, 2019 at 3:07 pm

    https://youtu.be/KMTSJ8_hMRM

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  19. Bajan in NY Avatar
    Bajan in NY
    March 31, 2019 at 3:16 pm

    https://youtu.be/WnwhfdZmydw

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  20. Freedom Crier Avatar
    Freedom Crier
    March 31, 2019 at 5:26 pm

    Jeremy Corbin is the UK’s Equivalent to Bernie Sanders of the U.S.A. Both are Socialist/Communist and if either should get in at any time their Countries will head towards Venezuela in a short time. Their view like Chavez is “full-throated advocacy of Socialism and Redistribution-ism” in Venezuela as an “economic miracle” – just before Venezuela’s economy collapsed into total chaos.

    Both Corbin and Sanders is Socialists/Communist, and Socialism is Communism with Patience, at best, a Well-intentioned Tyranny!

    However, history has proven repeatedly that the collective ownership and management of property eventually leads to Death, Destruction, Coercion, and Tyranny. More than 167 million people have been killed, exiled, or imprisoned by Socialist and Communist Regimes in the twentieth and twenty-first centuries.

    Whenever Socialism is tried, it fails miserably – whether it’s in China, Nazi Germany, North Korea, Russia, Venezuela, or Zimbabwe. Yet, despite the mountains of evidence against collectively owning and managing property, they are those who continue to allege that anyone who argues against socialism is nothing more than an untrustworthy right-wing propagandist and that all people like Corbin and Sanders really want is to tweak the current system to make things better for the poor.

    Sanders have said… “What I mean by Democratic Socialism is that I want a vibrant democracy.”

    Socialists are deeply concerned about “wealth gaps” between different classes. They want to create a society in which wealth is equitably redistributed so that everyone has what they need, but not necessarily what they want. They don’t care about Private Property Rights, Individual Liberty, Free Enterprise, or, in many cases, Even Religious Freedom. Their primary concern is one thing and one thing only: TAKING PROPERTY AND WEALH AWAY FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE EARNED IT. They don’t support creating a truly Free Society, because they believe freedom leads to wealth gaps, and that can never be tolerated in Socialism. They think the “rights” of the collective – which continuously shift and inevitably become whatever the majority of people in society wants – Trumps all Individual Rights.

    Or, put more simply, Socialists want to Create a Democratic Tyranny of the majority.

    In a Free market, all of these decisions are made by individuals, who voluntarily choose to exchange money, goods, and services with each other, as well as to create or support charities that help those who need assistance. In Socialism, the answer is the majority of people in society determine the answers to all of these questions, and those who Disagree are Forced to go along with those choices, even if it violates their deeply held beliefs.

    In Socialism on Steroids, whatever the majority wants, the majority gets – even if that means hurting others in the process or stealing their property simply because most voters think they would benefit from having it.

    That is their interpretation of Democracy = Promise anything! It is the money of the people we are promising to give back to them anyhow with a Big Slice for us, Our Friends and the Government. We deserve it we are ruling now and we will deal with how to fix things to always win IF we have elections.

    Image…https://i0.wp.com/socialismtoday.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/socialism-defined-750.jpg?fit=750%2C750

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  21. Freedom Crier Avatar
    Freedom Crier
    March 31, 2019 at 5:56 pm

    https://i0.wp.com/socialismtoday.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/socialism-defined-750.jpg?fit=750%2C750

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  22. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin
    April 1, 2019 at 9:11 am

    @ Freedom Crier

    The investment climate in Britain has indeed changed… foreign investment has fallen by 92% since 2016. Those are the facts.(Quote)

    Plse do not forget to post the statistics on which this view is based, no matter how old. Thanks. It should make for interesting reading.

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  23. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin
    April 1, 2019 at 9:30 am

    @ Freedom Crier

    The investment climate in Britain has indeed changed… foreign investment has fallen by 92% since 2016. Those are the facts.(Quote)

    Plse do not forget to post the source of the above report, no matter how old. Should make interesting reading.

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  24. Dame Bajans Avatar
    Dame Bajans
    April 1, 2019 at 3:48 pm

    Only in Great Britain. I wonder what Mr. Austin will say about this spectacle. hahaha. What class, in their Parliament. hahaha.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6874105/Semi-naked-climate-change-protesters-interrupt-Commons-debate-Brexit.html

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  25. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin
    April 1, 2019 at 4:09 pm

    @ Dame Bajans,

    Am I the explainer of Brexit to BU? I am told Britain is a failed state, but the author of that claim has not yet explained himself.

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  26. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin
    April 1, 2019 at 4:34 pm

    Here is Britain’s leading constitutional expert.

    Britain’s Crisis Isn’t Constitutional. It’s Political.
    A Remain Parliament is confronting a Brexit electorate—and none of the solutions on offer is likely to resolve the stalemate anytime soon.

    By Vernon Bogdanor | April 1, 2019, 3:51 PM

    In June 2016, the British people voted in a referendum to leave the European Union by 52 percent to 48 percent. Party leaders declared that they would abide by the outcome.
    In the 2017 general election, both major parties—the Conservatives and Labour—promised to implement the referendum decision, and in 2018, Parliament passed the European Union Withdrawal Act providing for Brexit on March 29, 2019. It still hasn’t happened though.
    Remainers dominate Parliament—almost 75 percent of the House of Commons, 80 percent of the House of Lords, and a majority of the cabinet are Remainers.
    And that arithmetic is the source of Britain’s current political crisis: A Remain Parliament is confronting a Brexit electorate. A supposedly sovereign Parliament is being required to do something that it does not want to do. That is unprecedented in the country’s constitutional history, and it is why Takis Tridimas, a colleague of mine at King’s College London, suggested that the 2016 referendum was the most important constitutional event in Britain since the restoration of the monarchy in 1660.
    After much difficulty, Prime Minister Theresa May succeeded in securing a deal with Brussels. That deal has two elements. The first is a withdrawal agreement that provides for a transition or implementation period until December 2020. That is an essential gateway to the final relationship to be negotiated with the EU. It is legally binding, and the European Council has confirmed that it cannot be renegotiated.
    The second element is a political declaration. That, unlike the withdrawal agreement, is not legally binding but lays out a set of aspirations for the negotiators. It points the way to a bespoke free trade and internal market agreement in goods while allowing Britain to negotiate independent trade agreements with other countries.
    The agreement is perhaps better than Britain had a right to expect. But it has aroused ferocious criticism both from Brexiteers, who argued that it tied Britain too closely to the European Union, and Remainers, who sought either a closer relationship or a further referendum so as to give the people second thoughts.
    The House of Commons rejected the composite deal twice by some of the largest majorities in British parliamentary history, making it impossible for Parliament to meet the March 29 deadline for withdrawal.
    The EU then extended the exit date to May 22, just before the European Parliament elections—on the condition that the British government pass a withdrawal deal. But on Friday, the withdrawal agreement alone—severed from the political declaration—was rejected for a third time by 58 votes.
    For most of Britain’s history, one defeat of that magnitude—let alone three—would be enough to bring down a government.
    Until 2011, any government defeated on a major policy matter would have had to treat it as a matter of confidence and either resign or seek a dissolution of Parliament.
    Theresa May could, therefore, have told members of Parliament that if they did not support her, they might face a far-left government led by Labour head Jeremy Corbyn. That might have brought them into line.
    Prime Minister Edward Heath used that tactic in 1972 to secure passage of the European Communities Act, taking Britain into the European Community, as the EU then was known. By using a threat of dissolution, he brought rebel MPs into line and won the crucial vote by 309-301.
    But, in 2011, the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act required that a confidence motion could not be attached to any other legislation; it had to be a no-confidence vote and nothing more. Consequently, Britain’s current minority government remains in office but hobbled in its attempt to pass major legislation.
    As May flounders, MPs have sought to take control by voting on a series of possible alternatives. That procedure is constitutionally dubious for two reasons. First, almost every alternative proposal has public expenditure implications.
    But the standing orders of the House of Commons require that, as in any parliamentary system, public spending can be authorized only by a minister responsible to Parliament, not by backbenchers.
    Second, the EU can negotiate only with the government, not with a motley collection of backbenchers. And the government cannot be forced to negotiate an agreement that it does not itself support. If it were to do so, it could not be expected to negotiate with much enthusiasm. That is why Parliament has never in its history negotiated a treaty.
    So far, the attempt by MPs to take control has not helped. Last week, the House of Commons rejected every single option presented to it. Its stance resembled that of Groucho Marx in the classic Marx Brothers film Horse Feathers, when Groucho, playing Professor Quincy Adams Wagstaff, tells his fellow academics: “I don’t know what they have to say/It makes no difference anyway/Whatever it is, I’m against it.”

    MPs will vote again this week. The option most likely to achieve majority support is for Britain to remain in a customs union with the EU. But that idea has, so far, been dismissed as unacceptable by May’s government and the vast majority of Conservative MPs since it would prevent Britain from negotiating independent trade deals with other countries and make Brexit, in their view, pointless.
    Rather than agree to it, May might seek a general election. But even if Britain were to adopt the customs union option, she would still need a withdrawal agreement in order to achieve Brexit on May 22.
    It is not clear what will happen next. It is possible that May’s thrice-defeated withdrawal agreement could be put to a vote yet again
    . But if it is not, or if it is again defeated, there are just two alternatives.
    The first is for Britain to leave the EU without a deal. Although a majority of MPs are opposed to it, that is the legal default position, unless Parliament legislates to alter it, since the withdrawal act remains on the statute book.
    Even if one rejects the much-discussed terrifying scenarios of food and medicine shortages, there would be an immediate impact in that the EU would be required to treat Britain as it does all nonmember states by immediately imposing tariffs and regulations on British exports.
    Since Ireland remains a member of the EU, there would be a hard border on the island of Ireland, and this would contravene the spirit of the 1998 Good Friday Agreement, which has brought peace there. A no-deal Brexit, therefore, is not a happy prospect. It would force many hard-pressed companies into bankruptcy and unemployment.
    The second alternative is to seek from the EU, by April 12, a longer extension to avoid a no-deal scenario. But the EU is not required to grant Britain’s request. It needs unanimous agreement from all 27 member states; any member state could veto it.
    They would certainly not be eager to grant a further extension since it would require Britain to participate in the European Parliament elections. The European Charter of Fundamental Rights gives every EU citizen the right to stand and vote in these elections; if May’s government sought to deny this right, it could be sued in the courts.
    Were Britain to take part in the European Parliament elections, there might well be large gains for Nigel Farage’s new Brexit Party, fueled by voters frustrated with the failure of the Conservative government to deliver Brexit.
    In the 2014 European elections, two years before the Brexit referendum, the UK Independence Party, then led by Farage, won more votes than any other British party. Other member states, already plagued by their own populist parties, would hardly welcome the accession of a British contingent in addition to their own.
    They might decide they have had enough of British dithering and that no further extension is possible. And if the EU does grant a longer extension, it has declared that it will do so only if the government presents it with a viable alternative strategy. Presumably a request for an extension because Parliament cannot make up its mind would not count.
    There are three possible strategies. The first is for Parliament to call a general election. “I fear that we are reaching the limits of this process in this House,” May declared on Friday, after her deal was defeated for the third time. But May can’t call an early election herself; that requires either a no-confidence vote in the government or a two-thirds vote by Parliament.
    In practice, if the government seeks an election, the opposition could hardly declare that it was opposed to one, and a two-thirds majority triggered an early election in 2017. But Conservative MPs are unlikely to vote for it today. In 2017, they were 20 percent ahead in the polls, but the party lost its overall majority resulting in the current hung Parliament. Currently, the Conservatives are trailing Labour in many polls or barely ahead.
    Another general election is unlikely to break the deadlock because both parties are deeply divided.
    The Conservatives are divided between those who favour the prime minister’s agreement and those who favour a no-deal Brexit. The latter is particularly strongly represented among the constituency associations whose members would choose the next Tory leader after May’s resignation, which is likely to occur soon. Labour is divided between predominantly middle-class Remainers and predominantly working-class Leavers.
    Furthermore, it is rarely possible to deduce from the outcome of a general election which issues determined the result. The parties might declare Europe to be the overriding issue. But Labour voters might choose to support the party not because of its European policy but because of concerns about austerity and the National Health Service.
    And Conservative voters might be voting out of fear of a Corbyn government rather than out of support for May’s Brexit policy. That is why it is so difficult to regard a general election as providing a specific mandate for any particular course of policy. Only a referendum can yield such a mandate.
    A second strategy would be to hold a second Brexit referendum. But it would take Parliament some time to agree on the enabling legislation. The act providing for the 2016 referendum took seven months to draft and pass. It could take even longer today since there would be disputes about the options to be presented and about who should be entitled to vote.
    Meanwhile businesses would be in limbo, with investment plans on hold, and jobs at risk. And if a referendum led to a narrow Remain majority with a lower turnout than in 2016, which is a possible outcome, it would lack legitimacy.
    A third strategy would be to remain in the EU, renegotiate the political declaration so as to achieve a softer form of Brexit with a closer relationship to the EU or even full membership of the customs union and internal market, and then, once again, seek to pass the withdrawal agreement—the essential gateway to the negotiation on the final relationship. But under this strategy, Britain could remain in the EU for a very long time, perhaps even forever, since, whatever the virtues of the EU, speedy negotiation is not one of them.
    All of these strategies, therefore, put Brexit at risk. As Liam Fox, the pro-Brexit international trade secretary, predicted, the Tory hard-liners—by voting against the prime minister’s deal—may have succeeded in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
    Some have suggested that Britain faces a constitutional crisis. It does not. It faces a political crisis because MPs will not follow through on the logic of their decisions. Having passed the EU Withdrawal Act, they have consistently rejected the means of implementing it—nor have they been willing to repeal it. So they have willed the end without willing the means. They are, as Winston Churchill characterized the governments of the 1930s, “decided only to be undecided, resolved to be irresolute, adamant for drift, solid for fluidity, all-powerful to be impotent.”

    Vernon Bogdanor is a professor of government at King’s College, London and the author of Brexit and the Constitution. In April 2019, he will be giving the Henry L. Stimson lectures at Yale University on the consequences of Brexit for Britain and the European Union.

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    Dame Bajans
    April 1, 2019 at 4:54 pm

    Mr. Austin, I was looking to hear your opinion on the naked bottoms in the British Parliament, not to mention the droopy boobs. hahaha.

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  28. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie
    April 1, 2019 at 5:17 pm

    RE The investment climate in Britain has indeed changed… foreign investment has fallen by 92% since 2016. Those are the facts.(Quote)

    Plse do not forget to post the source of the above report, no matter how old. Should make interesting reading.

    MUSCLE BRAIN HAS FLIPPED HIS LID!

    HE IS NOW POSTING THE SAME LINES OVER AND OVER
    IT SEEMS THAT THE DYSPLASIA OF HIS BETZPAENIC BRAIN IS TENDING TOWARDS ITS ZENITH

    I DONT KNOW HOW THE DAME FIGURES THAT HE WOULD BE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH naked bottoms in the British Parliament, FROM droopy boobs.

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    Hal Austin
    April 1, 2019 at 5:56 pm

    @ Dame Bajans,

    I leave that to the old alcoholic. A bit of entertainment.

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  30. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie
    April 1, 2019 at 6:01 pm

    ASSTIN
    ARE YOU THE OLD ALCOHOLIC?
    IS THAT WHAT CAUSED YOUR BRAIN TO TURN TO MUSCLE
    YA TOO STUPID
    DRINK WATER WITH LEMON LIME EXTRACT IN IT MAN

    WHY ARE YOU POSTING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER MAN?
    ARE YOU HAVING TREMORS IN YOUR BRAIN?

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    Freedom Crier
    April 1, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    What an incredible speech, Alice Weidel is a Breath of Fresh Air Compared to the Gassiness of Merkel… “The EU will go the same way of the Soviet Union. In fact that is what the EU is now being called, The New Soviet Union and it is an accurate name. The sooner it collapses the healthier Europe will be.”

    Well worth reading the Subtitles

    AfD co-leader speech on Brexit in Bundestag, Alice Weidel, English subtitles (March 2019)

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    Bajan in NY
    April 1, 2019 at 8:57 pm

    @Hal Austin April 1, 2019 4:34 PM

    Here is Britain’s leading constitutional expert.

    Britain’s Crisis Isn’t Constitutional. It’s Political.
    A Remain Parliament is confronting a Brexit electorate—and none of the solutions on offer is likely to resolve the stalemate anytime soon.

    By Vernon Bogdanor | April 1, 2019, 3:51 PM

    Very good article…thanks

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  33. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife
    April 1, 2019 at 9:13 pm

    @Hal Austin April 1, 2019 4:34 PM “A Remain Parliament is confronting a Brexit electorate.”

    But we don’t know that the electorate is still Brexit.

    Plenty of people have changed their minds about plenty of things since 2016.

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    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife
    April 1, 2019 at 9:19 pm

    Zenith means the time at which something is most powerful or successful. synonyms: highest point, high point, crowning point, height, top, acme, peak, pinnacle, apex, apogee, vertex, tip, crown, crest, summit, climax, culmination, maximum, optimum,

    Nadir means the lowest point in the fortunes of a person or organization. synonyms: the lowest point, the all-time low, the lowest level, low-water mark, the bottom, as low as one can get, rock-bottom, the depths, the pits.

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  35. David Avatar
    David
    April 1, 2019 at 10:05 pm

    In the face of having to leave the EU in 10 days with empty pockets the British parliament is unable to deliver responsible government to the people. An inability to build consensus. An inability to demonstrate that the Westminster style of government is the best on offer.

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  36. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie
    April 1, 2019 at 10:09 pm

    A FAILED STATE IT SEEMS
    ONCE GREAT BRITAIN IS GREAT NO MORE
    LONDON BRIDGE IS BROKEN DOWN

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  37. David Avatar
    David
    April 2, 2019 at 5:31 am

    A picture is worth a thousand words. Are we witnessing a Westminster system suffering from con constipation?

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  38. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin
    April 2, 2019 at 6:35 am

    Can someone plse explain: Barbados has had constitutional independence for over 50 years; since that time we have had governments of all colours, including the latest reincarnation, a 30-nil (subsequently 29-1) BLP majority.
    This is more than is necessary to change the constitution, which the Mottley-led government has done in order to appoint childhood friends as senators. At no time has it complained about the Westminster/Whitehall system of government.
    Yet, frequently on BU, we see people – many of whom were not born in 1966, spme were toddlers, and many teenagers – complain about the system of government we inherited, including the illogic of a democratic Republic with a foreign Monarch. I am sure the majority of our parliamentarians were born after independence.
    We have had a hysterical so-called political science lecturer from UWI calling for an alternative to the Westminster system, but she declined to say what was wrong with the system and what she would replace it with.
    Can those opposing the Westminster system plse list its faults and propose an alternative?,

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  39. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson
    April 2, 2019 at 7:21 am

    @Hal
    Here is one source: https://unctad.org/en/PublicationsLibrary/wir2018_overview_en.pdf

    Britain is a failed state.

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  40. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson
    April 2, 2019 at 7:31 am

    “Speaking in Brussels Tuesday, the bloc’s chief negotiator Michel Barnier said a no-deal departure was becoming more likely “by the day,” and that a strong justification would be needed for the EU to agree to a longer Brexit delay.”
    —CNBC

    So having voted with the strongest majority of any of the recent votes to rule out a no-deal Brexit, the British parliament blunders towards exactly that outcome.

    Britain is a failed state.

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  41. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie
    April 2, 2019 at 8:33 am

    ASSTIN, THE MUSCLE BRAINED

    ONCE GREAT BRITAIN IS GREAT NO MORE
    LONDON BRIDGE IS BROKEN DOWN
    Britain is a failed state.

    RE Can those opposing the Westminster system plse list its faults and propose an alternative?,
    WHY?
    WHO CARES?
    IF THE ONCE GREAT BRITAIN THAT IS GREAT NO MORE CAN NOT FIXED ITS FAILED STATE AND KNOW ITS FAULTS WHY SHOULD ANY ONE PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE, DUMMY?

    LONDON BRIDGE IS BROKEN DOWN
    Britain is a failed state.

    COMING SOON WILL BE THE ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT OF ANTICHRIST WHEN THE US FINALLY FALLS AFTER THE DEPARTURE OF TRUMP AKA KING JOSIAH

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  42. Freedom Crier Avatar
    Freedom Crier
    April 2, 2019 at 8:39 am

    Excellent statement from Steve Baker MP (1)

    “On Thursday evening, I decided to support the Prime Minister’s Brexit deal. By the grace of God, I changed my mind with the help of friends.

    Now I see how my noble and brave colleague Richard Drax feels about backing this awful deal. He said in a television interview, “I personally feel utterly ashamed of myself for betraying everything I believed in, that this deal was a rotten deal.”

    I could not be more proud of my Parliamentary colleague, both for the way he was willing to put his name to a proposition for the sake of the stability of the government and for the astonishing courage he has shown in revealing how he feels about it afterwards.

    A gun was put to all our heads. Members of Parliament have been deliberately and systematically bullied by the British state towards a deal which is widely understood to be a betrayal of the fundamental principle of the referendum: a deal which converts a clear instruction to take back control into a surrender of our capacity for self-government with no voice, no vote and no escape.
    That this would be done was announced in advance, at least twice. I recall reading in the press a Number 10 briefing that we would vote as many times as necessary to get the deal through, setting up a merciless battle of attrition. And Olly Robbins’ Brussels bar comments are well known: he was clear we would be made to believe our choice would be between the deal or a long extension.

    He also confirmed what we knew: that the backstop is considered a bridge to the future relationship, not an insurance policy. Those of us who want an independent trade and regulatory policy for a free UK cannot accept a deal based on a customs union with a high degree of mandatory regulatory alignment. It would amount to a reversal of the referendum result, risking a Corn Laws-scale split in the Conservatives.

    On top of the indefinite threat to the union, that’s why some of us could not swallow this shocking withdrawal agreement. And using the contemptuous phrase that the choice should “focus MPs’ minds” merely adds to the outrage. Our minds are now and ever focussed on the national interest of the UK.

    And yet the situation we face this week is worse still. The Prime Minister now threatens a general election if we will not surrender at a fourth attempt. Yet it is a deal which every member of the public who approached me on Friday knew was a stinking repudiation of their vote. In principle and with practical foresight, it cannot be allowed to go through at any cost.

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  43. Freedom Crier Avatar
    Freedom Crier
    April 2, 2019 at 8:39 am

    Excellent statement from Steve Baker MP (2)

    So the plan reveals two things about those who would be our masters. They are so confident of MPs’ cowardice that they believe we will capitulate in our opinion of the national interest, not stand firm. And they are willing – as the Prime Minister’s horrible speech showed – to turn people on one another to get what they want: they presumably now anticipate that MPs facing an election will savage “recalcitrant” MPs into submission.

    They can think again: I will revisit once more the question of whether I can retain the Whip before I submit to a life of regret and shame after failing in a struggle for the rights of a free people in which others have literally fought and died.

    Events today are no longer about Europe or the European Union. By failing to accept a lawful democratic instruction, by constructing an exit deal which is a prison in which to await our defeated return to “The Project”, officialdom has made this a question of who governs and by what authority. It is now of little consequence whether you voted Leave or Remain, Conservative or Labour, Liberal Democrat or Green. Does your vote count?

    The spite, pride, mendacity and pitiless commitment to trampling democracy with which we are governed today leads me to describe the situation without hesitation as wrong: deeply, profoundly, intolerably wrong. The entire nation, and especially Members of Parliament, have a duty to defeat this constitutionally in the division lobbies and at the ballot box with an unyielding resolve, a restrained wrath and a ruthless commitment to the principles of a free and open society.

    I hope everyone will stand with us so that from this descent, our country and our institutions can arise renewed, without fear of falling into the same fate for generations.”

    Steve Baker
    Conservative MP for Wycombe

    “THANK YOU STEVE BAKER…
    WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES SOMETIMES …
    BUT IT TAKES A COURAGEOUS PERSON TO ADMIT TO HAVING HAD THE WOOL PULLED OVER THEIR EYES 👀 THANK GOODNESS 😅 YOU REALISED WHAT 17.4million VOTERS SAW OVER NEARLY 3YRS AGO”

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  44. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin
    April 2, 2019 at 8:47 am

    @ PLT

    I got your answer, but am not sure of the question. By the way, Barnier’s title is chief negotiator….what he says must be seen in that context. When you are negotiating you do not let the other side know your hand.

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  45. Freedom Crier Avatar
    Freedom Crier
    April 2, 2019 at 9:09 am

    There are people who want Freedom and those who Cry Submit, Submit, Submit and PLT is one who calls for Submission by shouting Britain is a Failed State by wanting people to remain.

    PLT, do you remember your peoples History, would you advise your Ancestors to Submit, Submit, Submit or would you say like Bussa, “It is better to fight for Freedom than to Submit!”

    Emancipation was enacted in 1834/1838

    https://www.barbadosadvocate.com/sites/barbadosadvocate.com/files/styles/large/public/field/image/WEB-DSC_0325.jpg?itok=I-UtW4-X

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  46. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie
    April 2, 2019 at 9:10 am

    ASSTIN THE MUSCLE BRAINED
    Medical Definition of dysplasia
    1 : variation in somatotype (as in degree of ectomorphy, endomorphy, or mesomorphy) from one part of a human body to another
    2 : abnormal growth or development (as of organs or cells)
    broadly : abnormal anatomic structure due to such growth

    ASSTIN THE MUSCLE BRAINED

    THIS MIGHT EXPLAIN HOW YOUR BRAIN ( IF YOU EVER HAD ONE) UNDERWENT ABNORMAL ANATOMICAL TRANSFORMATION TO SMOOTH MUSCLE TISSUE

    TREATMENT IS COCONUT WATER WITH PINEAPPLE AND DASHENE FROM LAGON NEAR PORTSMOUTH DOMINICA

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  47. Freedom Crier Avatar
    Freedom Crier
    April 2, 2019 at 9:47 am

    Why liberty-loving Americans back a no-deal Brexit

    2 April 2019 • 6:00am

    The liberal US media might sneer at Brexit, but millions of Americans see it as a great and transformative event

    As April 12 approaches, the UK faces a clear choice: leave the EU without a deal, or seek a long extension to Article 50, with the possibility that Britain stays in forever.

    For the United States, it’s a no-brainer. A no-deal Brexit would be infinitely preferable to Britain being stuck inside the EU. As National Security Adviser John Bolton recently said: “People who worry about the UK crashing out of the European Union – they are going to crash right into the United States. We are standing here waiting to make a trade deal with a United Kingdom independent of the EU.”

    Bolton, who has the ear of President Trump, has been a robust critic of the EU and is a strong believer in National Sovereignty….

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/business/2017/04/25/US-UK-flag_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqPnPGcv2KHVyXi0h6Vw6tFBhIhIifmF03lLNBE9srGQA.JPG?imwidth=1400

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    peterlawrencethompson
    April 2, 2019 at 9:54 am

    @Hal
    “I got your answer, but am not sure of the question.”
    +++++++++++++++++
    Sorry, you had asked for the source of my statement that foreign investment in Britain has fallen by 92% since 2016.

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    Hal Austin
    April 2, 2019 at 10:44 am

    @PLT

    Global foreign direct investment (FDI) flows fell by 23 per cent to $1.43 trillion. This is in stark contrast to the accelerated growth in GDP and trade. The fall was caused in part by a 22 per cent decrease in the value of crossborder mergers and acquisitions (M&As). But even discounting the large one-off deals and corporate restructurings that inflated FDI numbers in 2016, the 2017 decline remained significant. The value of announced greenfield investment – an indicator of future trends – also decreased by 14 per cent.
    FDI flows to developing economies remained stable at $671 billion, seeing no recovery following the 10 per cent drop in 2016. • FDI flows to Africa continued to slide, reaching $42 billion, down 21 per cent from 2016. The decline was concentrated in the larger commodity exporters.
    • Flows to developing Asia remained stable, at $476 billion. The region regained its position as the largest FDI recipient in the world.
    • FDI to Latin America and the Caribbean rose 8 per cent to reach $151 billion, lifted by that region’s economic recovery. This was the first rise in six years, but inflows remain well below the 2011 peak during the commodities boom.
    • FDI in structurally weak and vulnerable economies remained fragile. Flows to the least developed countries fell by 17 per cent, to $26 billion. Those to landlocked developing countries increased moderately, by 3 per cent, to $23 billion. Small island developing States saw their inflows increase by 4 per cent, to $4.1 billion.
    Inward FDI flows to developed economies fell sharply, by 37 per cent, to $712 billion. Cross-border M&As registered a 29 per cent decrease, with fewer of the megadeals and corporate restructurings that shaped global investment………..(Quote)

    Global foreign direct investment (FDI) flows fell by 23 per cent in 2017, to $1.43 trillion from $1.87 trillion in 2016 (figure 1). The decline is in stark contrast to other macroeconomic variables, such as GDP and trade, which saw substantial improvement in 2017. The fall was caused in part by a 22 per cent decrease in the value of net cross-border mergers and acquisitions (M&As). But even discounting the large one-off deals and corporate reconfigurations that inflated FDI in 2016, the 2017 decline remained significant. The value of announced greenfield investment – an indicator of future trends – also fell by 14 per cent, to $720 billion.(Quote)

    Large reductions in FDI flows to the United Kingdom, following an exceptionally high value of M&As in 2016, and to the United States, where authorities clamped down on tax inversions, were the major factors behind the decline. Outflows from developed economies remained similar to the levels observed in 2016. Increases from the United States, due to reinvested earnings, and Japan, where MNEs continued to seek growth abroad, offset an aggregate decline…….(Quote)

    In Europe, combined outflows fell by 21 per cent to $418 billion. Outflows from Germany and the United Kingdom rose sharply. Those from France maintained their high level. FDI outflows from the Netherlands – the largest source country in Europe in 2016 – declined by $149 billion to just $23 billion, mainly due to declining M&A purchases. …(Quote)

    @ PLT
    Plse give the page numbers in the report where it states that FDI in to the UK fell by 92 per cent at any time since 2016?

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  50. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson
    April 2, 2019 at 12:58 pm

    Oh come on Hal, it’s only a brief 45 page report. It’s at the top of page 3.

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