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“You are not to wrong or oppress an alien, because you were aliens in the land of Egypt. –Exodus 22:21 (ISV)

There appears to be an irrefutable presumption in the collective mind of governing administrations in Barbados that a substantial majority of our citizens are firmly in favour of the ongoing regional project in all its iterations. Hence, there is no need to consult the populace on any measure proposed by that project to which the State might be inclined to accede.

However, if I am to judge from certain views expressed in various quarters over the years, I am not so sure that this presumption might not be seriously flawed. Of course, our Constitution does not mandate the holding of a referendum in order to ascertain the public sentiment with regard to these or, indeed, any treaty matters. These are solely within the executive prerogative so officialdom is nonetheless entitled to base its international relations on this presumption without fear of legal recrimination.

We saw the application of this presumption with regard to our accession to the appellate jurisdiction of the Caribbean Court of Justice and we are now witnessing it anew with the recent enactment of legislation, the Caribbean Community (Amendment) Act 2019, intended to give municipal effect to our regional obligations under the Protocol on Contingent Rights to which the Honourable Prime Minister affixed her signature on Barbados’s behalf on July 6 2018 in Montego Bay, Jamaica.

To my mind, the presumption is founded on the popular anecdotal expression that for the people of the region, true integration is a daily-lived experience ever frustrated by the actions of the political leaders who care not one whit for any cession of their sovereignty in their several bailiwicks. The first part of this opinion was echoed by the Right Excellent Errol Barrow, sometime Prime Minister of Barbados in his speech at the 1986 CARICOM Heads of Government Conference where he declaimed, “If we have sometimes failed to comprehend the essence of the regional integration movement, the truth is that thousands of ordinary Caribbean people do, in fact, live that reality every day. In Barbados, our families are no longer exclusively Barbadian by island origin. We have Barbadian children of Jamaican mothers, Barbadian children of Antiguan and St. Lucian fathers. We are a family of islands.”

As Mr Barrow appeared to be, I, too, am a committed regionalist. Yet, it may be argued and is submitted that the reality of which he spoke is experienced by only a few in the region, and that there are numerous CARICOM nationals that have had or will have no contact with the other states in the region or their inhabitants. For these people locally, Barbados is their oyster, the self proclaimed “gem of the Caribbean” whose imagined pristine environment of low crime, harmonious race relations, and general law and order would only be sullied by an invasion of foreigners from other regional jurisdictions.

His Right Excellency would have been referring to those of us who, whether by marriage, romantic relationship, occupation, trade or otherwise are compelled to be Caribbean men and women. But there are also significant numbers who, as a caller to David Ellis last week, have never even visited a neighbouring island and whose experience of other CARICOM nationals is either based on generalized hearsay (“the violent Jamaican”, “the smart-man Guyanese”, “the poor small- islander”, or “the party-minded Trinidadian”) or on some random adverse encounter with one such person. And then there are the unrepentant xenophobes or latter-day “nationalists” who will brook no strangers at all within their gates.

As for the legislation itself, I have perused a copy of this from the Barbados Parliament website –Bills before the Senate- <https://www.barbadosparliament.com/site> (last accessed March 9 2019). My first comment is the rather esoteric one of dissatisfaction with its form. The language of treaties is ordinarily less rigorously crafted than that of public statutes, thereby permitting the ratifying jurisdiction to fashion its complying law in accordance with its perceived national interest while still respecting the intendment of the international obligation. However, on this occasion, the state has taken the “easy “ way out by simply appending the Revised Treaty of Chaguaramas [RTC] and the relevant Protocols thereto as Schedules to the body of the Act that does not itself make any substantive provision. It has been done elsewhere before, it must be conceded, and I am unaware at the time of writing of any revision to the electronic document.

The Protocol on Contingent Rights, the Third Schedule to the Act, is the only one reproduced on the electronic copy referred to above and it repays reading. What is immediately striking is that certain jurisdictions are not signatories to the original document so that if the rights and obligations under the Protocol are intended to be reciprocal, these jurisdictions are not privy to them. Indeed, I have learnt subsequently that some of these jurisdictions have asked for a deferral of their accession to the Protocol for varying reasons.

According to the Recitals to the Protocol, the States Parties to the RTC that establishes the Caribbean Community, including the CSME, declare themselves “convinced that the primary rights accorded by Member States to nationals of the Caribbean Community in respect of the CSME must be supported by other enforceable rights operating to render them exercisable and effective. Interestingly, while they acknowledge the differential institutional and resource capabilities of Member States of the Caribbean Community in ensuring the enjoyment by their nationals of internationally recognised (sic) rights” and, at the same time, “the importance of equality in the grant of Contingent Rights among the Member States”; they nevertheless are “committed to conferring the contingent rights as set out in this Protocol…” [Emphasis added]

I suspect that it is these italicized passages more than anything else that is the source of phthisic for most Barbadians opposed to the measure. After all, they reason, parties enter into agreements in order to secure mutual benefits and if the parties are not equally resourced, then the benefits (and the burdens) are likely to be disproportionate. So that while Barbados is able to provide social benefits such as taxpayer-funded bus transportation for schoolchildren, I am not aware of any regional jurisdiction that does this. It is similar with regard to undergraduate tertiary education.

By the same token though, Barbados, with its comparatively high cost of living and levels of taxation might not be that alluring to many individual wage earners, as assumed.

Essentially, the contingent rights to be afforded to the principal beneficiary – a national of a Member State exercising one or more primary rights under the RTC-; his or her spouse and their dependants as both these terms are defined in the Protocol, are detailed under Article II (a) to (f). These rights are minima only and Article IV permits a Member State to confer even more extensive rights than those in the Protocol, subject to Articles VII and VIII. In addition, there is, in Article III (a) to (g), a built-in agenda of potential rights that “shall only be recognised and applied as contingent rights at such time and upon such terms and conditions as the Conference may determine”.

To be continued…


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282 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – A Borderless Region”


  1. Skinner
    You are being disingenuous. We do not pretend to have any ideas as to how the region should go forward. For that is a complex task and should not be subjected to memes. That is not our remit, never has been.

    We have tried to problematize the issues of CARICOM and have long concluded that it has never worked and could never work. That evidence is so clear for even the blind to see. But yet you insist.

    It falls to you to justify the misdirection of the region for the last 70 years – an antidevelopment you still support to this day. For until a reckoning has been done by people like you who have and continue to mislead us, the creation of the conditions for a way forward will remain elusive.


  2. @Hants

    We living on the rock and others with an interest.

  3. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    What are the stats telling us? Sharing information is one thing but implementation always pose difficult challenges. We never had any real plan for improving agriculture, even the ministry of agriculture functions in limbo. If agriculture can be given a new lease on life from caricom nationals with the expertise then so be it. However, will it be a lucrative venture seeing that agriculture is deemed not to be a very profitable stream?


  4. *What are the stats telling us? *

    We don’t even have meaningful raw data far less meaningful stats. Therefore the step up towards meaningful analysis and insights will always be elusive.

    What I find funny is that no one, including the ambassador can point to any numbers and say, ” we had x number of Caricom nationals working here who would have contributed roughly $y “. There is absolutely no evidence-based reasoning, just anecdotes and feelings.


  5. @ David

    Back to your question:
    How can/will Barbados pay the social security bill being created by an ageing citizenry

    The issue is much more complex than importing workers of adult age. This would help but in the long term is not really a sound solution. In fact population ageing is driven more by low fertility than by falling mortality.

    Of course demographic factors are just one aspect of a PAYG scheme. The state of the overall economy within which the scheme operates is perhaps the most important. There is also the issue of scheme management.

    BUT, regardless of the health of the dependency ratio, if there are no jobs of if the scheme is being looted then we are back at square one.


  6. @Dullard

    The government should have shared the numbers ahead of the signing of the protocol to attempt to deflate the emotional discussion. It is about being proactive. What are the communications people doing?


  7. Low fertility is the cause but reversing it will not solve the problem facing us today.

  8. William Skinner Avatar

    @ Pacha
    I am not justifying the failure of the collective leadership. I am merely saying that with all its warts , a unified Caribbean Nation is our best goal.
    I am rather disappointed that you are only in the business of exposing problems but have admitted you have no ideas or solutions.
    Perhaps you should try new metrics rather than rely on the catastrophe now beleaguring the world economic system.
    The abundance of Caribbean talent needs to be unleashed for the benefits of our people. CARICOM is the current vehicle.
    Of course we may modify and improve it but that takes vision. Your stance is therefore defeatist and clearly shows a grounding in still looking up to the same metrics that you are attempting to dismantle.
    My quest is to continue to unearth that which has been downpressed. If I have to call upon the thinking of the elders, I am happy to so do.
    One of the major instruments of our African tradition is to always seek the counsel of the elders. You obviously cannot see the bigger picture because you have fallen intellectual victim to the exact system that you are claiming to be on the verge of collapse.

  9. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    David

    Rogue-Works has already demonstrated that 4 for the masses 20 for her. With that, no one can say that she is not communicating on the more mundane of things. Specifics will not come from this administration or her tricksy lips for decisions that will have the greatest impact that can change bajan lifes and their way of life for a lifetime to come. She knows that bajans will protest any FMP because of our existing vulnerabilities.

    Puff Enuff

    You are a piece of work, do you know that! I now read your little intelligent trap. Why draw me into intelligent discourse when you already said on here that I dumb and lack the ability to analyse? You want to know about the movements of the EU, there are plenty of websites that can tell you about the Pros and Cons, advantages and disadvantages, early headaches versus current migraines. Caricom needs a certain degree of stability throughout their economies of scale for it to work. Imbalances by any degree will result in the strong having to prop up the weak all the time. Take a peep at the Challenges of the European Union. Don’t take too long to respond, sweetie, I get agitated when I have to wait.

    Back to David

    Assuming that you do not believe that everyone who will seek the opportunity to come to Barbados will do so on the basis that agriculture is available for employment, what criteria will be set to promote an agriculture initiative as an important prime factor? And hopefully, we make determinants to get well knowledgeable livestock and not a bunch of posers and goats. How will we screen? And please do not tell me about qualifications. Qualifications without proof to show your knowledge base are like Trump making his millions of off scheming while telling the world he is legit but threatening any school or university that disclose his educational results.


  10. @SSS

    A valid concern. Skill workers in the agriculture category should not want to visit Barbados unless there is opportunity to earn a wage. Admittedly agriculture in Barbados is given lip service but what if the opportunity to readily access labour is there for those who want to grow in the sector?


  11. @ William,

    Without regional unity we are nothing.


  12. @ David,

    I still own a piece of the rock so I will remain ” interested ” until it is sold. lol


  13. A unified Caribbean based on the American Republican form of governance will probably work in the Caribbean, but the idea of pulling resources from the richer islands to support or sustain the poorer ones will I am sure be met with a lot of repudiation…

    Nevertheless, it is important to note that even though the states in America are unified … each and everyone of them retains their individual sovereignty or self-government with a minimum oversight by the Federal Government…


  14. Another important point we must consider when we embark upon this idea of a unified Caribbean … Is a Constitution which evolves to meet the contemplating challenges of the day like that of the US, and not one that is stagnant like most Constitutions in the Caribbean archipelago…

  15. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ Brother Hants

    Wuh ah go on?

    What it is you hearing dat I ent hear?

    Earlier you said and I quote

    ” March 11, 2019 11:39 AM

    @ David,

    I still own a piece of the rock so I will remain ” interested ” until it is sold…”

    And den you laughed! Lol

    Whu you and de Honourable Blogmaster hear?

    I thought slavery was dead Brogher Hants

    Who wunna selling me to?

    I hope it ent Mugabe causing I ent got no clitoris to bite out. I got man parts Hants man.

    have a heart Hants…

  16. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    David

    Then let them come. They might be able to stimulate interest in agriculture. All our leaders have done is paid lip service to it. Every time we talk about diversity and becoming self sufficient we only get to realise that their talk about take off speed meant slug pace and listening to speeches only intended to impress. If caricom nationals with an interest for progressing agriculture can move our practices from a substandard approach to an approach that can attract more business, then let them come. David, the long short of the matter is this. We have a tendency to approach those things not on the interest list of politicians with a touch of nay nay, a pinch of showing upfront indulgence, but no shortage of reluctance. This haste by which Rogue- Works plunged her interest into Caricom’s FMP minus the people is a red flag for me. A big, big ass red flag. Stay tune for a poster shortly.

  17. Jeff Cumberbacth Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbacth

    Another important point we must consider when we embark upon this idea of a unified Caribbean … Is a Constitution which evolves to meet the contemplating challenges of the day like that of the US, and not one that is stagnant like most Constitutions in the Caribbean archipelago…

    @Lexicon, surely this is a matter of judicial interpretation, whether purposive or originalist. The Constitution by itself is silent…


  18. Barrow thoughts as he speaks about a medicant mentality and a lack of Communication in the Carribbean

    While psychology was not one of Mr. Barrow’s professions, his speeches reveal his great thinking on the Caribbean psyche and its impact on the state of the region. Despairing over the slow process of regional integration, he spoke of the need to overcome our imbued sense of inadequacy if we are to progress as a region. He lamented that while Caribbean integration was a ‘fact of daily experience’, it was something that yet was not institutionalised. Indeed some of the reasons for the failings for Caribbean integration which he outlined in his speech ‘Caribbean Integration: The Reality and the Goal’ delivered to the CARICOM Heads of Governments Conference in Guyana in 1986 ring true today. To Barrow, one of the biggest shortcomings of the integration movement was the failure to communicate that the regional integration movement was more than trade. There was the need to better communicate the regional project to the peoples of the region, by emphasising the strong cultural ties which bind us, and educating them on “the meaning and purpose of all regional institutions”.


  19. @ac

    Leaders are fit for the times they lead. We can embrace positions espoused by leaders of the past but it must be tempered with a heavy dose of what are current realities.


  20. The West Indies need a strong, united voice when it comes to important matters such as reparations for slavery and other British crimes and the protection of our tax havens and offshore financial industry.

    The agricultural development aspects raised in the comments are quite meaningless in comparison.

    We must be able to activate the forthcoming financial boost in Guyana for projects throughout the region.

    I would not be surprised if the Guynese soon became richer than the crazy British after their BREXIT. It would be an irony of history if the British queued up in Guyana to serve as domestic servants. They deserved it.

  21. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Jeff Cumberbatch

    The Constitution by itself is silent, but when subject to the whims of fancies of those seeking change, it becomes loud is tail-hole for political expediencies. Remember our little tic for tac when you said it is not easy to change the constitution? You do not have to answer, sweetie, I is a practicing daredevil, and you are cum laude.


  22. Spurring the growth of agriculture should not be limited to the utilization of land space in Barbados.

  23. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Tron

    Clearly, you miss the bus. The discussion on agriculture surrounds employment opportunities re Barbados’ predicaments since the job market is at an all time low. You think the 285,000 on the rock gine jump the Barbados Trident to migrate to the island with the newfound black gold? If any of you think that bajans will find it easy to get into Guyana base on our past niceties, you bettas think again. With new found wealth and prosperity comes changes in mindset and business dealings. The Guyanese will go into surveillance mode to protect, create ground rules and look out for those who come to execute exploitation.


  24. SSS,

    You can’t win a flowerpot with agriculture. OK, self-sufficiency, but not more. The Barbadian middle class, on the other hand, is history if agriculture becomes the No. 1 industry in Barbados.

    Generally Barbadians are much more resistant and adaptable than many think. Or where do you think the Williams brothers and other Barbadian magnates are investing their money? I have also been told that many craftsmen have already moved from Barbados to Guyana. For the time being for a few months, but who knows?

    The so-called academic middle class is the only part of the population in Barbados that actually believes it is better than the rest of the Caribbean and has a right to live at the expense of other people. I’ll tell you something. In my estimation, this middle class will not exist in 10 years unless it adapts to the new era. The dinosaurs are also extinct.100,000 Barbadians who believe they belong to some kind of middle class will soon follow – unless they accept reality and change their behavior. But I don’t think they do. Too much arrogance and too much pride.

    Look at the constant whining as you implement long overdue reforms in Barbados. Totally ignorant. You’re lucky that the Prime Minister’s name is Mia Mottley. I think she shows far too much indulgence. We now need hardship, not softness. I am sure, however, that the Prime Minister will soon be pulling out all the stops to save Barbados.

  25. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ Dearest SSS

    My virtual darling we are going to have our second internet quarrel here today, but I hope not.

    You said to the Honourable Blogmaster and I quote

    “..David

    Then let them come. They might be able to stimulate interest in agriculture. All our leaders have done is paid lip service to it. Every time we talk about diversity and becoming self sufficient we only get to realise that their talk about take off speed meant slug pace and listening to speeches only intended to impress. If caricom nationals with an interest for progressing agriculture can move our practices from a substandard approach to an approach that can attract more business, then let them come…”

    That let them come mentality is what has our country Barbados in the state that it is!

    We have not vot one clue about the competencies of these invading? CARICOM residents, we do not know if they can use a hoe, or a garden fork, but here we are in biting these unknowns into our country , to cure our agricultural problems, much like we have done with the dingbats in our house of Assembly

    For 52 years!!!

    Guessing all the time.

    That has go stop dearest, I send you the internet equivalent of smooches so that you know that there is no acrimony in my gentle disagreement

    http://imgur.com/kdq7Yq3

  26. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item here thank you


  27. Piece,

    why are you criticizing the keylogger monitoring software? It’s a great way to catch lazy officers. I’m pretty sure that many Barbadian officials don’t even know what a computer keyboard looks like.

    This gives our Prime Minister at least the opportunity to see in real time who is sleeping in front of the desk and who is working hard for the common good.

    I have always been a follower of the Platonic enlightened dictatorship. 😉


  28. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Tron March 10, 2019 1:49 PM “We need a world government made up of international corporations to promote the welfare of humanity.”

    I thought that the reason international corporations exist is to increase the return on investment of the corporation’s shareholders.

    What are you trying to do now, turn global corporations into the Salvation Army?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wuhlaus!

    They are certainly not going to convince me that this will solve our immediate problems based on that argument.

    That sounds like the world government GP has been saying is predicted by the Bible. (See that now Greene?) And for what this World Government is supposed to be ushering in you had better ask him.

    Of course, if what he says is true all problems will EVENTUALLY be solved permanently. At least for some of us. The rest of us – not so much.


  29. “That sounds like the world government GP has been saying is predicted by the Bible.”

    And the angels will play their trumpets and announce the Last Judgment. The old Satan nation state and its corrupt brother called welfare state will be banished to the void of eternity and will never return.

    People will be united in happiness, harmony and justice. Their future lies in the stars, where they have to endure adventures for eons, not in the laziness and narrow-mindedness of the nation state.


  30. it seems to me that to take a firm position on this should not be done without facts and figures and projections and context.

    My concern is that if this is going to be such a good thing for Barbados why was it flown in under the radar? Surely the PM should trust her communication skills to be able to sell it to a public based on its merits? Surely public engagement would have smoothed the way and saved her some political headaches? What does she believe that this will do for Barbados? I have not heard it clearly articulated as yet in any more than a nebulous way.

    What’s the rush? Is it really the Guyana oil?

    Isn’t there a dispute with Venezuela concerning the ownership of the offshore “oil fields”?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-guyana-venezuela-oil/exxon-continues-drilling-offshore-guyana-as-venezuela-lodges-complaint-idUSKCN1OP0UB

    PS. I have some Guyanese friends who can put in a good word for me. I treated them as I would want to be treated when they were hiding away in Barbados. I even lent one of them hundreds of dollars to pay Comesingasong for representation after he sang a sweet tune on broadcast media.

    What happened, you ask? Dejected, my friend eventually lost hope, abandoned his beloved Barbadian grandchildren and returned to Guyana of his own volition.


  31. The oil bonanza in Guyana will surpass any other oil boom in the years after 1945. The entire Caribbean can become unimaginably rich under Guyana’s leadership. Now is the time to invest in Guyanese stocks and get rich. Very rich. It would be best if we invested the entire capital of the NIS in Guyana in order to get back tenfold in 20 years. What have we done so far? The NIS invested in a rotten plantation called Apes Hill. A crime, indeed.

    Prime Minister Mia Mottley once again shows her foresight. In contrast to the backward-looking middle class and the selfish upper class, she obviously has the necessary imagination that Barbados must economically adhere to Guyana in order to survive.

    The era of nation states is over, the Empire of the West Indies is on the brink of resurrection.


  32. How can it just be about an oil resource making the difference. How many African countries are oil rich?

    Guyana has a deep racial divide that does not engender confidence to see it as a dependable strategic partner.


  33. Ms.EU MM
    Mi lady, firstly it is not free movement in the context of the EU. There are specific categories of people. Secondly, if businesses are not going to flock why would skilled workers? Y’all behave like the other islands are war and famine stricken therefore people will just up and flock to Bim. Thirdly, one of the core objectives of economic integration is stability across all member states. It begins with clear imbalances, hence the existence of the CDF. I wouldn’t bother to get into territorial cohesion, spatial equity, centrigual forces etc cuz I too dumb to make it in the EU.🤣🤣🤣


  34. @David March 11, 2019 3:55 PM

    Just read this: https://oilnow.gy/news/guyana-barrels-oil-per-capita-country-world-rystad-analyst/

    You shouldn’t let horror tales fool you about race riots in Guyana. The rain of money will plaster all the differences.

    It’s time to wake up and acknowledge that Barbados must focus on Guyana in order to survive. 100% literacy rate and UWI for everyone are a thing of the past as a model of success. Either the Barbadian upper and middle class will adapt or they will end up in the garbage heap of history.

  35. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    That let them come mentality is what has our country Barbados in the state that it is!

    My Sweet Piece

    Surely you recognise that David provided agriculture as an alternative means of employment amidst the brown stuff that got Miss Barbados increasing hardships on the masses. I am sure that you are not in any real real opposition to the Caricom movement. Therefore, in response to David’s – agriculture as an option for meaningful employment – because I do not see where they are going to absorb any significant influxes into our population with work, let those who can promote agriculture in a meaningful way come. We need agriculture to wake up from the long slumber of one eye idiots to take up its rightful place as the main player in reducing our large food import bill. So there is no let them come mindset being propagated by me her so let us be clear! I am oppose to the move at this stage because the Caribbean initiative lacks the stabilities needed for there to be a successful Caribbean Community. Too many fragilities exist and I have not even drawn reference to the stupid insularity amongst braying idiots. The Rogue that is working to do so on the behalf of her need to expand her thirst to be ”THE FIRST,” is doing it at the cost of common sense because most bajans have lost there’s. I am telling you now, baby, she will not be able to absolve herself with a bunch of rhetoric and manipulation when the shit hits the fan with this thing.


  36. All this fronting by Mugabe is about money.

    She was taught about National Indicative Programming funding NIPs and she learnt well heheheheheh.

    Now she has learnt about RIPf – Reional Indicative Program Funding or appropriately “acronymed” RIP f and in “Requiescat in pace, fvcker”

    The last word is Latin too, check um out and wunna will see dat de word fvcker comes from the verb Foopo which means I foop you with its parts “Foopo, foopere, Foopsi, and foopsum (as in we are going to foop sum of wunna, possibly all of wunna soon enough)

    THis is about Regional Indicative Funding that has been dormant for some time and AS IS MOUTED BY the Nameless Ones #1, the only way that the Caribbean Development Funds can draw down on these EU millions of dollars is to “make it seem like if we are harmonizing our movement of citizens”

    I tell wunna to follow de $$,

    Mugabe does not give one ass bout Caricom Citizens other than de big botsie girls from Jam Town dat does hide out in the apartment building/motel dere pun Black Rock Main Road Opposite Kentucky

    Steupseee

    Information In War!!

  37. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Tron

    I believe you understand my no-brainer as I understood yours. Agriculture is never the may stay of any economy in the world. Show me any world economy that has agriculture as the number one domestic and forex earner. Agriculture is simply a meaningful staple that supports the economy while keeping ”industry” (food, mechanical, electronics, and whatever) in a stable first place. That is why developed countries nurture it, invest in it, develop it, and subsidize it. They know its benefits as a money saver because to do otherwise, it becomes an expensive ordeal to import all the time what you could easily grow and transform into VAP (Value Added Products). The only country that scoffs at it, look down on it, and treat it shabby, is all-knowing Barbados. That is why we will end up making Guyanan our best friend and hope that the Guyanese forgive us, for the way they were treated by us in the past.


  38. @SSS

    The movement of people will bring services; entrepreneurship and enterprise that will help to build all the countries in the union? The large countries have excess labour? We have Barbadians working across all the island chain right now? Is the disparity so great? Have you factored that the market will correct? Is it a case we need to protect the Bajan identity which maybe compromised by immigrants?


  39. Anyone stop and give pause that along with these immigrants their will be population growth which means land space for increased housing would be necessary
    All this jobby talk about agriculture is nothing more than political pie in the sky


  40. @ Sunshine Sunny Shine March 11, 2019 4:30 PM

    A noble statement. Agree.


  41. PIECE

    What you talking about man

    You mek me head hurt just reading them f-words LOL

  42. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David March 11, 2019 4:37 PM

    Isn’t this Bajan push to enhance the movement of goods, services and people a premature bridge too far over the CSME pond?

    Why not make the joining of the CCJ- at all its levels, from original jurisdiction to appellate- a sine qua non before any CSME member state can claim entitlement to full continent rights status?

    Why is so difficult for those ‘recalcitrant’ countries to get their governance ‘act’ together by demonstrating their political maturity since Independence and cut ties with the British Privy Council as their final court of judicature?

    What are they waiting on? For King Charlie to read the riot act and burn right before their very slavish eyes the vestige of their colonial umbilical cord?


  43. usually migrants flow into a country because of a need for people or workers in the host country or because they are running from something at home. a country doesnt just invite people in becos it thinks that their v presence will spur growth.

    it might but who would bet on that? posters are citing bajans years ago moving to guyana and Panama to justify free movement. 1. at the time the english caribbean was ran by the British and the British moved people where there was a need- guyana needed certain type of workers and Bim filled the need and vice versa and 2. the panama canal construction needed cheap manual labour and bajans with little prospect at home rushed there

    none of that is present in Bim today. in fact we have the opposite. we have a depressed economy with high unemployment.

    then there is the often cited agricultural pursuit.

    so a vincentian is going to leave his fertile island one day, ruck up in Bim and is going to be given some land to till or he is going to buy or lease some? so he will have some greater skill than a laid off bajan? or he will do aquaponics or introduce some new method of growing crops? why Bim? why would he do that at home where labour and production cost is cheaper? even if he overcomes all these challenges and trials how is agriculture in Bim going to spur the economic growth and recovery been bandied about? how will bajans react to other WIndians getting a seemingly unfair advantage assuming some incentives are granted?

    i am a small r regionalist and i believe that free movement can stand on its own without these adornments that have little basis in reality

    let the market determine the movement. in fact i believe it will


  44. “Anyone stop and give pause that along with these immigrants their will be population growth which means land space for increased housing would be necessary.”

    And this is how densification would be justified, which would engender a more profitable public transport system. Keep up!


  45. The integration movement as it does in the EU and elsewhere have contingent rights written into the agreements i.e. movement of people, trade, financial capital; settlement etc. There are other ways to establish areas of functional cooperation. We will always have some who will go early Miller, it is the nature of markets read people behaviour.

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    Bajan identity? What the so in so you talking about? No respect intended, David. What is the identity that is so important that we do not want to be muddled? You do know that our identity is but a mere shadow of its former glorious self and has been replaced by the adoption of the psuedo American lifestyle. We lost the vision, the sight beyond sight, the moment that modern leadership decided to take a definitive turn down tunnel vision road. Those who were visionaries and had the purpose for Barbados to excel despite its limitations resource wise sought to transform and not stagnate. Also, you know far too well that Caribbean people working in different Caribbean islands ain’t no new Columbus. That has been so since time immemorial. The only difference is that you did not have them in great numbers flocking like locust upon a single land accept during ‘ the got little’ era. Again I say to you, is there enough stability to bring into reality what you are purporting when you state ”The movement of people will bring services; entrepreneurship and enterprise that will help to build all the countries in the union?” This ain’t no pipe dream, David. There are existing realities of difficulty associated with a move such as Caricom, the results of which did not fare well under the same nuisances that keep the islands divided.


  47. @SSS

    You have rammed home the point for the blogmaster in your inimitable way. Can/do we arrest the assimilation or too far gone? Will Caribbean brothers and sisters dilute the Bajan identity?


  48. Enuuf

    And this is how densification would be justified, which would engender a more profitable public transport system. Keep up!

    But yuh not telling me where all this excess land for housing be found
    Unless wunna gonna use up.much needed agricultural land for housing


  49. Because you don’t understand the term densification.🤫


  50. Wunna talking as if all these immigrants gonna come to barbados and live in the agricultural fields
    Oh while trotting through the mud how about water supply for all this massive agriculture
    Already with global warming knocking at our door steps how about the possibilty of drought and its impact on agriculture

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