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In recent weeks Barbadians have been greeted with the good news our credit rating for local debt was upgraded by two credit rating agencies S&P and CariCRIS.

In recent weeks Barbadians have been greeted with the bad news that violent and gun crime appear to be on the increase.

The question we must answer is whether the solutions to our problems are to be found with our political masters only. The blogmaster shouts NO!

We have the political games being played depending on which side of the fence one sits that credit rating agencies are deemed to be important. There is sufficient evidence to show that not having an investment grade rating does more harm than good as it affects financial decision-making. The previous government was heavily criticized because of the unprecedented number of downgrades Barbados notched during its tenure.  The expectation is that when the foreign debt restructure is completed inyternational credit rating agencies will respond favourably as well. It is important to achieve an investment grade for the financial and intangible benefits it lends to any country.

However one spins it, an inching upwards of the credit rating is good news for a country  gripped in the throes of economic fatigue for more than a decade.

The good news about the northward movement of the credit rating has been tempered by the public perception that crime is on the increase. In recent weeks there has been a spate of gun crime linked to drug activity and a lawlessness element. Some will say to ignore the lawless while they shoot at each other. However commonsense supports the view that a country must maintain law and order to accrue obvious benefits.

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Attorney General Dale Marshall

The rising crime activity has seen minister Edmund Hinkson being demoted with responsibility for the Royal Barbados Police Force, Forensic Services Centre, Criminal Justice Research Unit and the Police Complaints Authority reassigned to Attorney General Dale Marshall. Hinkson’s diminished portfolio he has responsibilty for the Barbados Fire Service, Immigration, Post Office, Government Industrial School, National Council on Substance Abuse and the Prison Service – creates the opportunity to resign from the Cabinet in the coming weeks. It signals to others in the large Cabinet that the prime minister will jettison non performers soon once the ‘opportunity’ appears on the political radar.

The reassignment is an admission by government that it has to improve in the area of law enforcement and delivering justice. Our slothful court system has been a bane for both political parties in government. Coincidentally, the Attorney General has responsibility for Barbados Courts, he now has responsibility for the Police and support units. What should be obvious is that an incrementalist approach has been shown not to be effective over the years.

The blogmaster has been critical of the large Cabinet appointed by the Prime Minister. Her defence of the large Cabinet will not resonate in a climate where workers are being retrenched from the Public and Private sectors.  It does not matter how hard the prime minister and Cabinet are working, commanding the support of the public requires she adopts leadership positions which co-opt the support of the public.

The blogmaster was also critical of the prime minister when videos surfaced on social media during the last political campaign with her ‘styling’ with certain actors. It is important our leaders appreciate the importance of leading by public example.

 

A word to the wise should be enough!

 


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708 responses to “Crime and Credit Ratings”

  1. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    ya need to stop ya shit too…your intent is not exactly different to John’s…do not be telling grown ass people what to stick to, not all of us are ya politics or bible enslaved..grow the hell up..

    both DLP and BLP needs to be wiped off the island’s political landscape in order to get rid of their BRIBERS in the minority community with their blighted corruption….completely and finally out of the people’s lives…

    so what have you done so far to successfully accomplish this…outside of nothing.


  2. John

    And before his first term ends … he will be doing hard time in the federal penitentiary for treason against the United States of America …

    What a disgrace to the office of the presidency and an embarrassment to the American people …


  3. Further comments about Trump will be deleted.

    Have some adherence to blog etiquette.

    Type TRUMP in the BU search field at the top of the page and post there. How difficult is that to do?

  4. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    There is a movement to get rid of both BLP AND DLP out of Barbados…unfortunately, outside of the blogmaster and a few others….most people on this blog CANNOT BE TRUSTED to help or participate because they come with nefarious agendas…but want to tell others what to think and post….not going to happen.


  5. I am watching the turn of events because of the recent increase of violent crime in barbados
    What barbados is witnessing is the front end of forceful and determined action by waring factions in the drug world which has brought military action to the forefront and ( as) to how barbados would be spotlighted across the global world in its fight against drug
    The question to be asked is how did we get here?


  6. What is also interesting are the reponses given by those people living in the drug torn areas when police intervention took place a few days ago
    Voices not of welcome but voices to place blame on the police which brings to mind a strategy which have been heard many times in countries when police intervention was necessary to confront the criminal element
    Also a stragety put in place to protect warlords
    Also a strategy that would put commuinties at risk as gangs move out lookin for places to hid out in avoidance of police activity


  7. David

    Well done.


  8. Mariposa

    Maybe the practice of combining the military with the police is a new phenomenon in Barbados, but this front against crime has been going in on Jamaica, Trinidad, and Guyana for quite sometime …I can tell you that it has been going in Jamaica since you the 80s …

  9. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    It does not change anything Inniss…the blogmaster is the one accepting posts or not..it is not your place to tell others what to post, just because you think it will help DLP…the GOAL..is to take down both CORRUPT POLITICAL PARTIES…and…THE MINORITIES WHO BRIBE THEM ALLL…

    not wanting to hear anything about trump…is not going to change that goal…John is well aware that it pisses bloggers off when he starts on his trump racist spiel….the goal is always to CHASE HIM…

    now the goal is to CHASE YOU…when ya think ya have us in a position that ya can FORCE us promote DLP agendas..


  10. Lexicon

    What is “new” is that barbados has now joined the ranks of countries they laughed at now being forced to use military action to fight crime
    Barbados a once peaceful country is caught in the spotlight like deers in the headlights fighting violent crime as the outside world looks on in stunned amazement
    How did we get here is the question inquring minds want to know


  11. Govt intervention in those highly crime risked areas as govt peeped around and asked questions gives concern as to where would these gangs move onward to pitching their tents looking for safer hideouts

  12. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Told yall already this is not a joke, each and every one of you scum are being watched…very carefully.


  13. There is no hope for that Lorenzo. SMH. No hope whatsoever. He is a symptom of what is wrong in Barbados. It makes my stomach sick to see his posts. What is wrong with him?

    Is he hooked on scratch grain?

    Is he hooked on Kool Aid?

    or

    Is he really that stupid?

    Boy, he makes Mariposa look smart! Even she gave up attacking me for being a BLP yardfowl. Last thing she told me was to stop whining about the years I voted DLP and vote Bee if it suited me. Never said a word to me since.

    This Lorenzo fella is a different breed of yardfowl. The kind that makes one love Mariposa.

    The kind that could resurrect the Dead Dees.

  14. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Donna…most people are MISSING REALITY…I was not inclined to say anything until later in the year…but Inniss’ desperation..preempted that plan..


  15. “What barbados is witnessing is the front end of forceful and determined action by waring factions in the drug world which has brought military action to the forefront and ( as) to how barbados would be spotlighted across the global world in its fight against drug. The question to be asked is how did we get here?”

    It would be desirable if people were a bit more “fair and balanced” in their comments or criticisms.

    Since you have developed retrograde amnesia, i.e. a loss of memory of events that occurred before the injury of May 24, 2018…….

    ………I’m sure you won’t remember that, on Saturday, August 19, 2017, while delivering the feature address at the BDF’s 38th anniversary parade and sunset ceremony, former AG Adriel Brathwaite expressed CONCERN about the increasing gun violence and gun-related crime……….

    ……….and told the BDF members they would be called upon more to assist the RBPF in ensuring public safety and conducting general anti-crime patrols.

    Yes, I agree “the question to be asked is how did we get here?”

    …..….we got here as a result of successive BLP and DLP administrations “knee jerk” reactions to crime and introducing INEFFECTIVE anti-crime policies.

    In other words, the BLP & DLP are the reasons why we got here.


  16. And now back to the topic.

    I looked at the Sunday Sun picture of Dale Marshall, flanked by the “Royal Baygon Police Force” (all they target is the flies, Piece) and the Camouflaged Brigade and I laughed.

    It was not the kind of laughter that is the best medicine.

    I laughed at this “recurring decimal” of an operation that does nothing to solve the real problem of gun violence in this country.

    How many times are governments in Barbados going to pull this public relations stunt on the sheeple whilst winking and nodding at the chief facilitators and instigators of the violence in the ‘ghettos”?

    When are they going to get to the root of the problem?

    Do they even want to get to the root of the problem?

    I admit that I will feel a little safer in Bridgetown and its environs for just a few months perhaps but we all know (or should know) that it will be temporary. Maybe until the end of tourist season.

    And then the cease fire order will be lifted.

    The question is – BY WHOM?


  17. @Donna

    It is a militaristic approach which has failed in the Jamaica garrisons, Latin American barrios and other similarly labeled llareas.


  18. Barbados does not have enough policemen to conduct raids in drug snd gun infested areas.

    The Defence force should be used to protect the police.

    The fight against gangs drugs and guns should be an ongoing process.

  19. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “Do they even want to get to the root of the problem?”

    How do they get to the root of the problem when both DLP AND BLP AND THEIR BRIBERS THE MINORITIES…FACILITATED the importation and distribution of guns and drugs in the depressed areas…then got the nerve to send their police…MANY OF WHOM are also involved in the distribution of guns and drugs into the deposed areas..

    wuh if I buy guns from the police and then shortly after they roll into my house r on the block with search warrants to CONFISCATE THE GUNS THEY SOLD ME…then attempt to arrest me…wuh I too would want to know what the fu*k they been smoking..

    both governments and the police have played this stinking game with generations of young misguided youth in the depressed areas for decades…

    then their clowns want to appear on the blogs acting as If there is nothing wrong with that..


  20. Artax i really dont see the need for your intereference by way of attacks on the crime issue that is becoming increasingly alarmingly.
    Your agenda demonstrates your woeful need to defend this govt
    What i presented in my comments goes way beyond attacks of a political nature .
    Pressing or laying out a political agenda is not the solution
    Take a look at Jamaica as an example
    The people have become collateral damage paying a very high price all attributed to gang violence
    What should disturb u or any other bajan is how was it possible for so many guns and drugs to enter our country by way of unprotected borders
    Is it unfair or unreasonable to asked such a question
    By all means most know the answers and the answers lies in a corrupt system where the laws of this country are demoted to lower ranking and selfishness and greed takes foothold
    I also remember Unions display of despicable arrogrance when asked to help fight the war on drugs and guns coming across the borders
    I also remember Commisiong fight against measures to put a strong hold on suspected criminal activity before it entered rhis country
    Now barbados has reached a cross road seemingly to become unmanageable in ways barbadians never envisioned


  21. Employers in England and Wales must offer a new employee a CONTRACT of employment within two month of starting the job. The contract must state the place of work, the job title, hours of work, salary, annual holiday and other terms and benefits. No to is illegal.
    As to the contract of service and contract for service, this issue is still going through the high courts. For years the BBC has been trying to avoid making the salaries of it high earners public by encouraging them to form limited liability companies and working through the companies. The tax man has rightly challenged this.
    The test must be where the person works, his/her duties and reporting, and where the most of his/her earnings come from. If to all extents and purposes the person is performing the functions of an employee ie a contract of service, then that person would be and should be treated as an employee.
    We cannot allow tax law to be used continually as a get out clause for professionals and high earners. Financial Times Group offers its new executives a 14-A four page list of benefits, ranging from child care, subsiding canteens, subsidising or paying in full children’s education costs, interest-free travel loans, etc. The one that used to kill me was the company paid 25 per cent and part of the telephone landline costs and 100 per cent of mobile phones. But the mobile phones were company phones and most people used their mobiles to make professional and private calls.
    The other one was entertainment cost. Some professionals knew the game. For example, if you asked a public servant for off the record background information, they would agree and arrange to meet at an expensive restaurant. While you looked through the file, they were ordering the most expensive drinks on the list. No skin off the reporters’ nose: they get their information and the public servant got a decent drink.
    I said all that to day that the lower down you are on the employment food chaining the less you get. Executives get company cars, petrol paid etc. They rarely touch their salaries. This is an area for immediate reforms.


  22. The militaristic approach is the only option when you don’t have enough policemen to conduct raids.

    Caswell suggested reducing the BDF and training some soldiers to become policemen. Great idea but in the meantime the BDF should be used as protection for the police.

  23. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Hants…first…they gotta ARREST THE POLICE..who ALSO sell guns and drugs TO THE VULNERABLE.. in the depressed areas..


  24. @Hants

    There is evidence it does not work in the medium and long term. Let us agree that in the short term we must have the heavy handed intervention, we need to hear a cogent strategy from all areas of civil society a more relevant approach. We are a small country, we should be able to arrest the problem once the will is there.


  25. Agree David it is a miltaristic approach with many flaws which leads to failure and more innocent lives caught in the cross fire
    The fact that barbados borders would left wide open as political gang warfare in many forms took foot hold speak as to why we are hear
    The many voices against stronger measures placed at our borders says enough .


  26. @Hants,

    The reason why I do not believe in the mob. The mob wants blood, shoot them, lock them up, sack them. Forget analysis or explanations, jail them.
    If we were ruled by the mob we will still have mass hangings, abortions would be murder, etc. Throughout history the mobs have ben savage. There is nothing popular or democratic about it. Glendairy always had a waiting list of men who wanted to be hangmen.



  27. That video of Mottley hob nobbing with alleged drug dealers is an eye opener and one that sends a woeful message as to self interest pitted against countries interest

  28. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    That is what will keep happening, round and around you go…unless the police who distribute guns and drugs, the ministers et their bribers in the business community who also distribute guns and drugs into the volatile, maliciously and deliberately IMPOVERISHED depressed chapman lane, Orleans, Greenfield’s and other equally struggling areas …areas WICKEDLY created by both governments …..and unless all these culprits are arrested…it will not end..they know that, it is the reason they continue to play these games and bullshit the public with photo ops that go nowhere….AND LONG TALK..DESIGNED TO GO NOWHERE.


  29. Exactly, David! The smallness of Barbados ALWAYS SAID TO ME that the problem could be arrested if there was the will.

    And so I conclude –

    THERE IS NO WILL!

    And the question then is –

    WHY IS THERE NO WILL?

    And the pursuit of an answer leads me to borrow Piece’s tin foil hat because I can think of no other reason.


  30. The resulting trauma from this level of homicide in a small society is inestimable. It is also costly to the economy. The Inter-American Development Bank conducted a 2014 study, which estimated that crime-related costs for Jamaica amounted to four per cent of gross domestic product. According to former Minister of National Security Robert Montague, the $68 billion per annum crime costs Jamaica could build 16 new schools.

    The implications of continued high rates of crime and violence for governance, justice and civil liberties are worrying. The Latin America Public Opinion Project, based on a survey it conducted last January, reported that 27.9 per cent of respondents agreed that the authorities could “cross the lines” to catch criminal suspects. Some public officials and commentators, including Public Defender Arlene Harrison-Henry, have observed that already there has been crossing of the lines in the implementation of zones of special operations and limited states of emergency. It’s easy for even well-intentioned policymakers to cross the lines when getting tough on crime.

    Take the war against gangs, for instance. The November 13, 2015 Jamaica Observer quoted then Commissioner of Police Dr Carl Williams that from police intelligence estimates there are 266 criminal gangs operating islandwide, with half of them committing murders. The Criminal Justice Act 2010, popularly called the anti-gang legislation, provides the following definition in part: Criminal organisations means any gang, group, alliance, network among three or more people that has as one of its purposes the commission of one or more serious offences.

    In a January 27, 2017 The Gleaner article, entitled ‘Here’s why boys join gangs’, anthropologist Herbert Gayle wrote the following: “I wish to distinguish between gangs and corner crews. Inner-city boys join crews as a rite of passage and because they need food and protection. I shall, therefore, define a corner crew as a protective brotherhood. Corner crews are not formed for the purpose of them committing violent crimes or fighting another such group.”

    In the Jamaican context, the predominance of unattached men on the corner causes definitional problems. This has led to charges of extrajudicial killings by the police and cries of “We want justice!”
    ……..

    Taken from the Jamaica observer an eye opener as to how. Drugs and high level of crime impacts a society and economy


  31. “Artax i really dont see the need for your intereference by way of attacks on the crime issue that is becoming increasingly alarmingly. Your agenda demonstrates your woeful need to defend this govt…”

    Mariposa

    What have you been smoking this morning?

    How have I been attacking the crime issue?

    Do you really UNDERSTAND what you read or it is when you see certain names, you automatically assume their contributions are defending the BLP and spew the first set of NONSENSE that comes out of your silly head?

    You implied that Barbados is now in the spotlight because the military maybe assisting the police, when you know that is NOT TRUE…..the BDF has been assisting the police in combating crime under BOTH BLP & DLP administrations.

    Don’t the BDF assist in counter narcotics operations, beach patrols, praedial larceny, security during the Crop Over Festival? Don’t the Coast Guard and RBPF’s Marine Unit do joint patrols?
    What about the time when the police staged a “sick out,” was the BDF’s mandate altered so they could assume police duties?

    And how could any sane individual interpret my comments as defending this government…… when I specifically stated, in reply to your question, successive BLP & DLP administrations are the reasons “why we are where we are?”

    Don’t you think it’s about time you took off those blue and yellow blinkers?


  32. @Maariposa,

    The idea of being tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime (Tony Blair silly mantra) cannot be applied in Barbados. It takes 30 minutes to drive from one end of Barbados to the other. Everybody know the police and defence force personnel, or their mothers and father, cousins, children, etc, or knows someone who does.
    As a young man I worked in the criminal justice system, and one of the first things we were taught was how to be vigilant; even to this day I sit in a certain way in restaurants etc. and move in a certain ay on public transport. The habits do not leave you.
    We must not allow Canadians, Brits and Yankees to tell us what our law and order policy should be. We need a policy fit for a small island.


  33. Sometime ago I said that the army patrolled the beaches (on the West Coast) and was called out. I was asked to provide evidence as if my eye sight was not enough. Glad to see this improper use of the armed forces is now more widely recognised.

  34. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    But don’t worry..DLP can now join Grenville…or he join them, whatever floats their empty boats…. so that people can get on with the business of removing the current blights in the lives of the people, out of the parliament….

    always be careful for what ya wish ……


  35. David BU

    Anytime there is an apparent upsurge in crime, people shout “bring out the BDF to shoot these criminals.”

    Soldiers assuming police duties is not the answer.

    What about the work done by Cheryl Willoughby and het team at the Criminal Justice Research and Planning Unit (formerly the National Task Force on Crime Prevention)?

    What about research done by criminologist Yolande Forde?

    Do you know the RBPF is understaffed by 200 officers…..and when officers pursue their degrees they leave the force at the first opportunity presented to them?

    Why are officers not remaining in the force, or why young men are reluctant to join the force?

    Recently, a number of police officers were charged for various offences. For one officer in particular who is on bail for wounding, this was his THIRD charge…..the others include indecent assault.


  36. @Artax

    It is all about the will. The interlocking relationships, the corrupt practices complicate the issue.


  37. I also recall someone saying they saw the BDF patrolling the West Coast.

    If that person had mentioned they saw the RBPF patrolling the West Coast ACCOMPANIED by BDF soldiers…….then that’s a different story.

    The BDF CANNOT conduct patrols of the West Coast or anywhere in Barbados, unless such patrols are done in conjunction with and under the COMMAND of the police.


  38. Artax

    “The military assuming police duties is not the answer”

    Show us empirical evidence to the contrary…

    It is the duty of government to ensure the safety and security of its law-abiding citizens, and if it takes the military and law enforcement to make it happen then government is will within its right to do so ….

    Joint operations between law enforcement and the military have always been the appropriately response to an escalating crime rate… In the Caribbean and the wider world…


  39. The BDF has been co-opted by the police for years now; one area is patrolling the cane fields when there is a spate of fires. We have to stop politicalcizing some issues; crime is one. Bear in mind crime is a symptom of a bigger problem and has been a challenge for both political parties. The politicos will deal with reported crime, others will read the tea leaves which point to a trending upwards given the lack of will to arrest the problem The fact we look to the political class to improve the problem speaks volumes.

    On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:08 PM Barbados Underground wrote:

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  40. Too.much s.hit in the system that needs to be flushed out ( first) before govt can talk tough about tackling crime
    Example The finding of drugs on a big up boat.
    One can easily assumed that was not the first boat loaded with drugs to enter our borders and it is a high possibility that the boat was used before for such deliveries only to be caught

    The question remains to be asked to whom those drugs were being delivered and in whose hands were these drugs would be given as the first step of being allowed on the street


  41. Artax

    During 9/11 the governor of my state called up the national guard to assumed some of the duties of the state police, and I vividly remember pulling security at the airport as a member of state national guard who had not too long came off of active duty …


  42. “The BDF has been co-opted by the police for years now; one area is patrolling the cane fields when there is a spate of fires. We have to stop politicalcizing some issues; crime is one.”

    David BU

    Excellent!!!

    ++++++++++++++++

    Mr. Lexicon

    Okay, I concede…..you are correct.

    Now, please don’t make it such a big issue that you have to post 45 contributions to make your point.

    Why not now focus on the topic.


  43. Lexicon is a real Caribbean man.

    He has at least eleven jobs.

    And he still finds time for BU..

    Wunnah gun kill muh


  44. Apparently nobody wants to hear from either Yolande or Cheryl. That to me means that the efforts to deal with these problems are not serious attempts.



  45. 🙂


  46. Crime is a political issue – so is how we tackle it. Just ask Emile Durkheim, or Stuart Hall, the brilliant Jamaican social theorist, in his magnificent Policing the Crisis.
    Crime is a social construct. Homosexuality used to be a crime, to oppose it now runs the risk of committing a hate crime. Violence by the state is not a crime, violence by private individuals is largely considered a crime; but there are caveats such as self defence. Why is working class crimes (shop lifting, burglary, etc) more serious than cooking company books, middle class domestic violence, etc. And, of course, why is black crime more serious than white crime in Barbados?
    We got to be careful of the narrative. Why do we discuss drug offences in supply terms and not demand; if there was not a market the little boys and girls would not be selling marijuana by the spliff while the Mr Bigs run their front businesses. Many of them sell drugs because they lack jobs; the middle classes use drugs, but do not have to sell it.
    Why do our working-class hating magistrates think it is fine to remand ordinary people in custody for petty offences, regardless of the impact of their jobs, families and futures, while bending over backward to dismiss charges against the middle classes? What about drinking and driving, which is as common in Barbados as vulgarities? Whatever happened to the man who assaulted Ninja man?
    We got to be careful of the law and order narrative and the way it is couched. We also got to look at the privatising of policing in Barbados, with one private so-called security force armed to the high Heavens while delivering and collecting cash from private businesses. If a little lad from the Pine had a gun on display like that they would be jailed. Every little supermarket in Barbados now has its own private police, all this with not a single word from the public or our politicians.
    Of course, the conservative-minded Bajan just wants blood, kill the buggers; forget innocence until proven guilty. Remanding someone for ten years is just a technicality, they do not deserve justice. This is the Bajan idea of rule of law.


  47. On a related matter there is the Shaw lady who was replaced with Freundel Stuart’s lady Yolande at Substance Abuse.

    We need the will and stop the silly political games.


  48. Whatever happened to the police office with an MA/MSc from the Cambridge Institute of Criminology? Was Yolande Forde our ‘first’ criminologist or is that an exaggeration? Maybe she was the first to be employed by the Barbadian public sector (attorney general David Simmonds), but in the UK alone there have been a number of Bajans with criminology degrees..

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