The followings documents were received from an anonymous source. The blogmaster is of the view there is enough to warrant sharing with the public to elicit comment – David, blogmaster
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David
We have read the document, nearly fully
All it does is to present another example of official corruption which we well know is going on as we speak, maybe even to increasing levels given that a new set of hungry people would have assumed office.
It also tells us that as a population we should be organized on the presumption that all legal practitioners are criminals. And as a ‘profession’ we should be charging treason to this class of fish. Fish, rotting from the head.
Of course, that you still possess the courage to highlight official corruption, with official documents, sets you apart from all those who have or will pretend to be editors. Generations of editors, who never have found a higher courage than that require for the protection of fellow elites.
In this regard you, David, are the embodiment of the best journalistic traditions.
We trust you will now see why the power to recall a government or high official is by orders of magnitude much more important than notions about integrity legislation.
Ralph Thorne and his ilk are the ones so well-protected from archaic libel and slander laws. Thanks to the internet, a semblance to social justice can be rightly meted out. The fruits of treason are an entirely different matter.
The old saying still holds true – that those in glass houses should not throw stones.
Ralph Thorne was out front with the pack only this week,and often after 24th May,braying with the rest of BLP politicians about,Corruption,Corruption,Corruption with the last government.
That is why I made an earlier post on another blog – that any investigations need to AT LEAST start from 1994 – because that was a time of unprecedented corruption under the Owen Arthur administration – and some of the same players are still there salivating at the thought of eating some more of the fatted calf.
But they fool a lot of iggrunt people that only the dems were so corrupt and they were whiter than the snow – and therefore they should be put in charge.
Gimme a brassbowl break yuh.
@ Pachamama
It also tells us that as a population we should be organized on the presumption that all legal practitioners are criminals. And as a ‘profession’ we should be charging treason to this class of fish. Fish, rotting from the head.
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You are so correct that is how it is roll in Barbados.
I have dealt with the following and should be avoided at ALL cost in Barbados:
Arthur Holder Law Chambers
George Walton Payne & Co
Ralph Thorne
T Inniss
You can keep that line of argument …it is NOT helpful.
The FACTS ARE (as Bushie has stipulated now for YEARS) that with the possible exception of three persons – one of whom is well known to BU, ….ALL lawyers are crooks. It seems to be par for the course.
ANY kind of serious look at – ANY of them …will result in serious charges needing to be brought against them.
The thing that keeps these crooks going is that they KNOW that the others DARE NOT pursue them, and in fact, the others WILL BE FORCED to come to their aid when challenges arise. …as happened when a House Speaker was caught with his hands in a pensioner’s pot… in EVERY ONE OF them’s self interest.
Since these crooks control ALL of the seats of power in the country, they are able to pull this scam off…. and thee brass bowls pay the price.
What we need to do is bring PRESSURE on the OFFICIALS who hide up these things and REFUSED to do their jobs…
The DPP
The AG
The Boards of the various agencies that pay the bribes
SPECIFIC NAMES…
etc…
@ David
Bushie concurs with Pacha as to your VERY SPECIAL level of integrity …and BALLS…..
David
Yet the same Mr.Cummins won his case against the UDC for wrongful dismissal after this letter? Go figure.
Who were the judges in that case enuff ?
@ Enuff
Yet the same Mr.Cummins won his case against the UDC for wrongful dismissal after this letter? Go figure.
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What go figure what??!!
Just go read the comments on Jeff latest blog….
As Dipper warned, one ONLY needs to fear the courts if one is looking for justice and righteousness.
Cummins was well covered.
Mr Blogmaster, you focus on Thorne and justifiably so but this is a case of severely lax control at the UDC at the time.
@Inniss, so is one to interpret from your remarks to wit “But they fool a lot of iggrunt people that only the dems were so corrupt and they were whiter than the snow” that in fact the DLP was NOT IN FACT VERY CORRUPT!
Bajans were ANNOYED that your party operatives displayed abysmal INCOMPETENCE (sewerage in streets, Bills presented and defeated by court challenge, to name two glaring examples) and that you were ALSO blatantly and so publicly corrupt .
Please note there is ABSOLUTELY no doubt in the minds of rationale Bajans that MAM and her crew are as dangerously corrupt as you guys were and yet there was NO WAY on this lil rock that you guys were going to be elected again this year because of your outlandish mode of corrupt, incompetent acts….
…will the BLP do much of the same…very likely…will you guys have a chance again..also very likely.
So the question we should ask is WHY the badword do Bajans continue this absurd election of corrupt, self interested pols…simple answer: because unfortunately too many Bajans are corrupt, self interested people …that you can come and pompesette for your party as you do and folks like Enuff for his while looking past the greivous perfidy is ample validity of that.
Yet the same Mr.Cummins won his case against the UDC for wrongful dismissal after this letter? Go figure.
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That would only go to show how fucked up and backward Barbados legal system is.
Mr Cummins had a suspect CV, clearly involved in deception, theft and COLLUSION with Ralph Thorne who together misappropriated TAX PAYERS monies.
Barbados is indeed a failed island.
To tell you how far out to sea we are – we have a politician – now an elected member of parliament, Ralph Thorne – whose wife is a judge.
She has never recused herself on any case with political implications brought against the last government – yet almost every one of these cases which came before that Judge – Jackie Cornelius – went against the last government.
Pure coincidence you say ? hmmmmmm.
Bushie
One of the requirements of being a lawyer is never to bring a case against another lawyer. Some lawyers have said that they will never bring a case against another professional.
This represents a vicious type of social monopoly as if a mandate from a lodge, a secret society, or mafia cult – which the profession still is, in some ways.
Well, what can I say????????!!!!!!!!!!
T. Inniss
You are quite right but the reverse could and was also true. With DLP judges in place.
@enuff
What is the point you are trying to make?
Connect the dots for us, are you making a leap?
I REPEAT FROM PAST PERSONAL EXPERIENCE NO ONE LOCAL OR FOREIGN SHOULD HAVE ANY DEALING WITH THE FOLLOWING FOR ANY LEGAL MATTERS.
Arthur Holder Law Chambers
George Walton Payne & Co
Ralph Thorne
T. INNISS
Who were the judges in that case enuff ?
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It would be nice to know.
David – Pick sense from nonsense.
TInniss – I don’t who the judges were, but clearly Guyson was one of the lawyers representing UDC. Whatever became of this project:
http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/81162/usd300-adviser
@ DPD
So the question we should ask is WHY the badword do Bajans continue this absurd election of corrupt, self interested pols…simple answer: because unfortunately too many Bajans are corrupt, self interested people …that you can come and pompesette for your party as you do and folks like Enuff for his while looking past the greivous perfidy is ample validity of that.
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NAILED IT
@T.Inniss December 15, 2018 2:24 PM “But they fool a lot of iggrunt people.”
Who you calling iggrunt people?
Do you mean the same people that you asked to vote for you on May 24th?
Were those people iggrunt people before May 24th too?
Words have meaning.
@Barbados Underground Whistleblower December 15, 2018 2:34 PM “I have dealt with the following
Arthur Holder Law Chambers, George Walton Payne & Co, Ralph Thorne”
Arthur has done legal work for me and he was competent, efficient, courteous, and his fee was reasonable.. I’ve know Arthur long before he was a lawyer. But he is NOT a friend nor relative, nor my MP, nor a political associate. I do NOT have any political associates. Have never had any. Don’t want any.
I’ve know “Nice Legs” George from the time he was a lil boy in short pants, That is how I know that he has nice legs, but I’ve never given him any legal work.
I don’t know Ralphie, nor his madam.
So a report was made to the police in 2009.
Wha’ happen since then?
A fella claim to have a bachelor’s. Did he or did he not? It should not be hard to find our one way or another. Ask the fella to ask the university to send the transcript directly to you. Looking at a degree paper is foolishness. The only road to go is to see the transcript yourself. A transcript which has NEVER passed through the hands of the student. I did this all of the time on my job and I have NEVER been fooled.
Stupseee!!!
Let me line up the DUCKS
RALPH THORNE’S WIFE WAS THEN AND STILL IS A BARBADOS HIGH COURT JUDGE.
RALPH THORNE WAS REPRESENTING AT LEAST 14 POLICEMEN WHO WERE BY PASS FOR PROMOTION MOST OF THEM SENIOR RANK AROUND THIS TIME SHORTLY AFTER COP DOTTIN WAS REMOVED BY DLP.
RALPH THORNE HAD BOTH THE BARBADOS JUDICIARY AND POLICE FORCE IN HIS POCKETS SO THE CASE AGAINST THIS DISHONEST EMPLOYEE WAS GOING NOWHERE EITHER LEGALLY OR CRIMINALLY.
THAT IS HOW IT IS DONE ON THE FAILED ISLAND OF BARBADOS BY THOSE WHO THINK THEY ARE UNTOUCHABLE.
@enuff
You said I told lies on you.
You were about to do your silly BDLP dance, but was warned to put on the brakes.
You still did a slight shuffle afterwards.
That island is going nowhere. On the opposite side is Mariposa just waiting her turn in 2023 to justify what is being done by pointing at the BLP 2018-2023 actions.
The race to the bottom.
@ Simple Simon
Arthur has done legal work for me and he was competent, efficient, courteous, and his fee was reasonable..
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Lucky for you …your ZR fare would not have attracted much interest.
What ZR fare what.
When I can enjoy “free” rides on the Transport Board?
Bye, bye ZR men.
@Barbados Underground Whistleblower December 15, 2018 6:27 PM.
Why do you believe that a married man has his wife in his pocket?
Clearly you must be a batchey man?
Wife in pocket?
lolll
TheoGaz
Wunna duz really mek me laff yes. So Ralph ran in an election and Derek Alleyne ain’t give a copy of the letter to John Boyce, all the while while SInckler was busy throwing up red herrings about Boko Haram? Ah mean like Simple Simon asked, 2009 to 2018 nothing from the UDC but during that period the accused won a case against the UDC and I am made to understand it was summary judgement? PIMRP do!
A report made to the Police in 2009 is indicative of one thing i.e. A report was made to the Police in 2009. It doesn’t mean that they took action or even attempted to investigate, it shared the same fate as reports made in 2007;2008; and those made before and after those years. The Police investigate whom they want to investigate others they give an olé to similar to the way a matador waves his cape at an onrushing bull and the bull goes by…..
Olé case closed.
BTW the BLP must be cognizant of the way these investigation gather dust on the shelf, of late I hear them asking why the Police haven’t laid charges against their political opponents, someone should tell them to “make a report”.
Enuff
Wunna duz really mek me laff yes. So Ralph ran in an election and Derek Alleyne ain’t give a copy of the letter to John Boyce
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Every skin test ain’t a laff yuh hear boss…?
You keep playing that you ain’t know…
So what would John Boyce do with the letter …if Alleyne gave it to him…?
Do you know what ‘letters’ are held on John?
You play that you STILL don’t know why NO LAWYERS spill the beans on other lawyers…
…and why No politicians spill the beans on other politicians (unless in jest)…
It is only yardfowls that walk bout crowing and scratching…
When the first one falls … the WHOLE pile will tumble .. they all know this…
…and no one knows it better than you.
When I was in short pants there was a message written on most surfaces announcing ..KILROY WAS HERE.There was also a pithy saying ……I CRY.
When I saw the names Derek Alleyne and Guyson Mayers I remembered……I CRY. I might add…FOR MY COUNTRY.These 2 in their own way have massively contributed to the decline in this country Barbados by their allegiance to the Fatted Calf Brigade.,…The message of May 24th is valid for people like you two….GET EFFING LOST…wunna chuckers.
@Enuff
TInniss – I don’t who the judges were, but clearly Guyson was one of the lawyers representing UDC. Whatever became of this project:
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I see what you did there, in effect why look at the dim QC bulb here when over there a bright LED floodlight is escaping scrutiny.
It is ALWAYS amazing how the low-lives like Enuff and Gabriel raise their heads wheneve BLP corruption is exposed ESPECIALLY AMONG THIS CURRENT BUNCH OF DISHONEST POLITICIANS.
ONLY MISSING IS PRODIGAL.
De ole man is still reading de blog as The Honourable Blogmaster ‘s heatsignatures will attest.
I have said to you people that Mugabe s government is going to be one term
In the interim a third party will rise up and all these effers will be no more
Mark de ole man’s words
“Some lawyers have said that they will never bring a case against another professional.”
Why do you think am always in a RAGE…they do not bring cases against each other…but handle cases WITH each other as opposing sides…CASES THAT ARE NEVER RESOLVED…somehow they are ALWAYS the ones to benefit financially and their clients always end up being RIPPED OFF..or..the cases are NEVER CLOSED and out of SPITE…left to linger in the supreme court for DECADES..
These lawyers are a CURSE on the land…were they in some OTHER countries…they would be executed for that level of corruption by governments like China who do not play those nasty games……and they do not even appreciate that, they act like they are ENTITLED TO BE CORRUPT…HENCE THEIR BIG RUSH TO LEGISLATE CORRUPTION INTO LAW..
with Thorne as one of the lawmakers…..drafting the integrity legislation.
I don’t know Jackie Cornelius’ background…but I have seen her on more than one occasion trying to help the vulnerable and unaware who traverse that pit of vipers supreme court….when she KNOWS they will be eaten alive by lowlife lawyers they trust…it is that bad and even worse in that den of thieves.
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“You are quite right but the reverse could and was also true. With DLP judges in place.”
I spent years giving these Judges the benefit of the doubt, hoping they were not as heartless and corrupt as judges as they were as lawyers, turns out too many of them, just like the lawyers, are THE PROBLEM…at the Supreme Court…some of them should be REMOVED from the bench.
They play this nasty ORCHESTRATED game that DESTROYS clients and their cases..
David
Where’s page 1 of the report?
@enuff
Updated, thanks.
Piece aka old fogy
Old man, why haven’t you given voice to what was said about you above by Mr. Blackman ? The BU readership enjoys the comedic response you often give to elicit a laugh here and there, but no such response to Mr. Blackman attack on your person, are we to assume that validity of Mr. Black statement bears truth in regards to the unscrupulous magniloquence which you cloak at comedy?
Thanks, page 1 confirms what I suspected when I initially read page 2. Innuendo! 😂😂
Enuff…don’t laugh too hard..Thorne was raised in the Gazettes area…some of his classmates are still around…there are people with loads of information on him, it’s been many years that many of US have known certain things.., just because you have not seen it on the blog YET…does not mean it does not exist..
Fortunately for him, he has no personal injury cases that I am aware of, and he is a criminal lawyer, but don’t for one minute think there is nothing out there on Thorne that he would much prefer… is never revealed…
WARU
That is Thorne’s business, as Bajans would say, not mine. I have no horse in the race.
Waru
You got that right !
That is why they sound like jackasses braying in the Parliament this week talking about corruption.Which one of them not carrying baggage.
He who is without sin cast the first stone.
The Dems politicians cover for the Bees and the Bees expose the Dems but frighten to make a move on the Dems else all dey panties will be exposed.
I have surmised that the Bees are even more corrupt than the Dems and are extremely bold and without shame in their corruption.
Almost everyone of Arthur’s cabinet engaged in Graft.ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
There were also a number of them in the last government who were equally greedy and bold but there were also a lot in that last cabinet who did not engage in that sort of behavior.
The bottom line is that when you see these politicians coming around your door – asking for you to elect them to the House of Assembly because they want to serve the country – keep a bucket of cold,cold water – or better yet some week’s old pee – and throw the bucket at them.
They have sullied what should have been an honourable calling – and this has been done mostly by those politicians who can be found in the Bar.
Yuh know which bar right ? Of course – the Bar of Association for lawyers
Thiefs and vipers – the lot.
Why are we still paying over $60,000. every year to pay economic costs for these people to go and study law and then come back and rip us off.
Then we call them the Honourable …
The Honourable Ralph Thorne – yeah right.
Remember how the High Court Judge in the Caymans this year cussed Ralph Thorne going and coming for his behavior in a case he had there ? Steupse.
Mia is Head of the list – she can’t tell Payne,Dale Marshall,Thorne,Suderland,Prescod – nobody to stop that behavior.
Yuh dun know Satan can’t correct Sin. Ha ha ha Wuhloss.
If these politicians and Lawyers don’t change their wicked ways – they will be a big reservation waiting for them down in Hell.
And yuh know it so ingrained in them – that yuh know even down in hell they will be trying to lie their way out of hell.Ha, ha.
Imagine that nuh – trying to lie to the Father of lies himself – Satan.
Steupse.
Tinniss
The bottom-line is if we are to achieve a true democracy the rights of the individuals and responsibilities of the state must be openly defined and ardently defended … and this should bring man’s passions and desires under subjective … but without these clear rules of constraint man is led away by his passions and desires …
TInniss, yet pre 24 May you were nowhere to be found on BU condemning corruption. I duz caant wid wunna.
Enuff precisely,here we have a Dem hyprocrite every day talking shite about a six month old Government but before May 24th voice could not be heard when the ex speaker was,ordered to repay an old man,s money but was told apparently to get a lawyer.then there was an instance where another person was found to be apparently involved in dealings connected to Clico matters and not a word from this Dem ,as it seems he only got a conscience since May 24th,a total J/A.
We need to read the police statement by the two parties. To repeat an earlier question, was the matter escalated BT the UDC.
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