Non Exhaust and Exhaust Emissions a Problem

The blogmaster recognizes citizen advocate Kammie Holder the the tireless work championing issues of concern, especially in the role as Advocacy Director at the Future Trust of Barbados. The following was posted to the blogmaster’s Facebook timeline by Kammie Holder.

  • David, blogmaster

If we published our water quality we would not have a South Coast Sewage problem today. It would have allowed us to keep a high benchmark on quality. Here is the info as presented on PM10 /P2.5 in high trafficked areas for we all can identify with poor working diesel vehicles fumigating our lungs daily with impunity.  The GOB must act for we are more than an economy.

Here is a SUMMARY in text form of the report.

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  • Have we heard from Carl Moore recently as it relates to noise pollution? Did he miss a trick not co-opting the support of social media instead of being it worst critic? Sometimes one has to look at the good that can be done by setting aside inflated egos and sensibilities.

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  • What about the pervs parking by Pebbles beach in their SUVs/trucks jerking off with the windows rolled up/engine running polluting the place..Nuff freaky people bout this place.

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  • RE If we published our water quality we would not have a South Coast Sewage problem today. It would have allowed us to keep a high benchmark on quality.

    THIS STATEMENT IS A NON SEQUITUR AND THE STATEMENT OF AN IDIOT

    HOW WILL PUBLISHING OUR WATER QUALITY PREVENT US FROM HAVING A SOUTH COAST SEWAGE PROBLEM

    THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A SENSORY APHASIA

    IS SAMPLES OF OUR WATER TESTED WEEKLY AS IT USED TO BE?
    IF NOT WHY NOT?

    IF IT IS HOW WILL PUBLISHING THIS INFO HELP? AND HELP WHO?

    HOW WILL IT HELP BU BRIMBLERS?

    HOW WILL IT HELP IF THOSE EMPLOYED TO ACT DONT ACT APPROPRIATELY AND IN A TIMELY FASHION

    HOW WILL IT HELP IF THE SOUTH COAST SEWERAGE PROJECT IS POORLY DESIGNED AND POORLY MANAGED?

    YOU SEE THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS DOERS AND NOT ONLY THOSE WHO JUST ENGAGE IN MORONIC MOUTHINGS?

    YOU SEE THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS PEOPLE WHO DO THE RIGHT THINGS AND NOT ONLY JUST TALK SHITE?

    WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD PUBLIC HEALTH FOLK GONE?

    WHERE ARE THE HIGHLY CREDENTIALED BU COMMENTERS?

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  • Yet residential land beside the heavily used,and polluted ABC Highway cost an arm and leg,and is in high demand. And quite often we see some farmers harvesting grass in close proximity to the highway to feed their stock.

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  • @David King, never argue with any one who insults others for they are at their best cowardly using anonymity to emotionally jerk themselves off.

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  • HOLDER December 10, 2018 12:36 AM

    INSTEAD OF TALKING SHITE INDICATE WHERE ANYTHING THAT I HAVE SAID IS WRONG
    I WOULD STAND UP BEFORE YOU OR ANY LIKE YOU AND TALK ABOUT WHAT I KNOW

    WHAT HAVE YOU ADDED TO THE DEBATE?

    CAN YOU ANSWER ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS

    HOW WILL PUBLISHING OUR WATER QUALITY PREVENT US FROM HAVING A SOUTH COAST SEWAGE PROBLEM

    IS SAMPLES OF OUR WATER TESTED WEEKLY AS IT USED TO BE?
    IF NOT WHY NOT?

    IF IT IS HOW WILL PUBLISHING THIS INFO HELP? AND HELP WHO?

    HOW WILL IT HELP IF THOSE EMPLOYED TO ACT DONT ACT APPROPRIATELY AND IN A TIMELY FASHION

    HOW WILL IT HELP IF THE SOUTH COAST SEWERAGE PROJECT IS POORLY DESIGNED AND POORLY MANAGED?

    WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD PUBLIC HEALTH FOLK GONE?

    WHAT IS YOUR TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC HEALTH?

    ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE HIGHLY CREDENTIALED BU COMMENTERS?

    OR ARE YOU ANOTHER ONE WHO THINK YOU CAN MOCK ME?

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  • KAMMIE HOLDER

    YOU TINK U IS SOMEBODY BECAUSE YOU FOOL AROUND AT THE FUTURE CENTRE TRUST?

    MAN YOU IS A JOHHNY COME LATELY……..CAUSE YOU WERE NOT THERE AT THE INCEPTION…………..I WAS !

    JUST THAT I DIDNT GET MY NAME IN THE PAPER AND THOUGHT THAT I WAS SPECIAL.

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  • “@David King, never argue with any one who insults others for they are at their best cowardly using anonymity to emotionally jerk themselves off.”

    @ Kammie Holder

    Does your statement also apply to those who use their real names to excessively insult others?

    Hal Austin is the first person that comes to mind.

    He was behaving himself until recently I saw him refer to the blogmaster as a semi illiterate man with a blog.

    @ David King BU

    Why do you put up with Austin’s & Georgie Porgie’s childish behaviour? I can’t believe they are two old men behaving like arrogant 10 year olds.

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  • BU mirrors the good, bad and ugly of the society, to suppress it on BU would be to create a lie. Let us see the contributors for who and what they are and learn from the experience. The blogmaster does not hold enmity for any commenter. Until commenters contribution reach a point where in our judgement they have crossed a line let them post.

    We will know them by their fruit and be better for it.

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  • We have a new government, has the Future Trust been invited to the table to help shape policy? Can you share an assessment of how they have performed to date?

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  • David, you would do us all a favour if you told that GP moron to stop his shouting. Caps do NOT make his ranting better.

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  • @45colt

    Do you have anything constructive to add to the topic?

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  • Do you have anything constructive to add to the topic?
    THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION
    UNFORTUNATELY YOU WILL FIND THAT MANY HERE CAN NOT

    @Robert Goren December 10, 2018 3:47 AM
    RE Why do you put up with Austin’s & Georgie Porgie’s childish behaviour? I can’t believe they are two old men behaving like arrogant 10 year olds.
    TRUST ME SIR. WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS OF LITTLE IMPORTANCE?

    HAST THOU NEVER HEARD THE WORDS OF THE MASTER WHO SAID THAT”A LITTLE CHILD SHALL LEAD THEM?” LOL

    DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ON THIS TOPIC OR ANY TOPIC?

    CAN YOU IN YOUR GREAT GLORIOUS ADULTHOOD TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES RAISED AT THE TOP OF THE BLOG? CAN YOU OR ANYONE ANSWER ANY OF THE RELEVANT QUESTIONS I POSED?

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  • RE We have a new government, has the Future Trust been invited to the table to help shape policy?

    WHY? THE BRAIN AND WISDOM OF THE FTC DIED 14 YEARS AGO SIR!
    AT ITS INCEPTION THE BLP HATED HIM AND HIS VIEWS ABOUT LAND USE AND AGRICULTURE IN BARBADOS, INTER ALIA.

    THE BRAIN CHILD AND ORIGINAL WISDOM IN THE FTC HAVE EITHER DIED OR NO LONGER GIVE FINANCIAL SUPPORT—–I MEAN LOTS OF MONEY FROM OVERSEAS.

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  • Yes David I do. With the trade winds a pretty constant factor I have NEVER experienced air pollution outside of a still day in Broad St. This is an irrelevance in the broad panoply of Bim’s problems.
    Secondly, I see my interjection re the shouty GP has had the desired effect at least in regard to volume if not verbosity.

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  • I SEE THAT YOUR APHASIA HAS SUBSIDED A BIT TO ALLOW YOU TO WRITE MORE THAN ONE LINE

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  • GP should add color to his writings,
    if you want to see air pollution cut open one of the fire services scba you will find corrosion ,oils, if the filling station air intake is near exhausts etc they will be filled with contaminants. See if your firefighters have a lot of respitory problems like coughs, colds, and breathing problems judging by the sewage treatment plant maintenance is probably not done.

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  • lawson
    if I was still the medical officer for the fire dept I could attempt to do that
    but there is merit in your suggestions
    obviously–unlike many who opine here- you clearly know of what you speak
    i can imagine that such an exercise would be met with much resistance at the head of the fire service and in the ministry in charge thereof
    why?
    IGNORANCE
    UNWILLINGNESS TO LEARN

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  • GP we cut ours open years ago and the insides were black and filled with corrosion ..the air filling was not done in sanitary conditions or right temperatures etc guys were prone to sickness, they found the cylinders filled with cancer causing contaminants Eventually it was all swept under the rug but a system was put in place to fill monitor and replace equipment with a certain individual looking after it so there was consistency. and culpability. I would almost bet money your cylinders are filled at a dive shop.

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  • LAWSON
    WE CAN ONLY HOPE THAT ONE OF OUR FIRE FOLK READ THIS NUGGET OF TRUTH AND LOOK AFTER THEMSELVES AS YOU SUGGEST FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE
    I AM NO LONGER AROUND DOWN THERE AND NOT IN CONTACT

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  • The study has been presented as a scientific one. I have no problem with the fact that there is pollution caused by vehicular emissions. One doesn’t need to be a scientist to deduce such. In science , even observational studies (the study is basically observational) have to be executed rigorously . Under the heading of materials and methods, the authors of the article on at least four occasions used the plural noun data with the verb was. This can be done in an informal setting but not in a scientific paper. In a scientific paper one uses “data were” . Additionally, no statistical analyses of the results were presented to show a definitive correlation between emissions and asthma. One must remember that,in science, a life maybe in the balance and the manner in which an article is written up can be an indication of the efficacy of the study.

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  • @lawson

    Agree we have a big problem linked to a lack of a robust maintenance program. The young building of the Supreme Court in Whitepark is a good example. Isn’t a BOLT project suppose to have a built in maintenance program?

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  • @GP

    You are quite right sir, publishing water quality is of no value whatsoever. I stopped reading after that ridiculous claim. What he needs to ask is what is the system in place for managing water quality.

    Analysis of the water quality management system would reveal whether a thorough, appropriate and up to date risk assessment has been conducted. The findings and recommendations from the risk assessment are the foundation for a framework of policies, procedures and processes aimed at monitoring quality, managing risks, correcting mistakes and continually improving the system. Within the framework will be a requirement to conduct water quality tests as part of quality monitoring but never will there be a requirement to publish the results.

    To boldly claim that publishing the findings would solve the problem reveals a level of ignorance that is troubling and shows a clear lack of understanding of or disdain for science. Environmental activists who don’t or can’t understand environmental science should stick to organising beach cleaning

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  • Did anyone besides Lucas read the link?

    It is more like a newspaper article than science. In fact, it is not really scientific at all.

    @Blogmaster:
    Is it because it is Bajan that you posted that drivel?

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    Before I start I dun know it is going to be said dat one myope de ole man, kowtowing for favour from another myope Dr GP.

    But here goes anyways

    There are some questions that Dr. GP asked which, NOTWITHSTANDING HIS CAPS LOCK, bring some perspective to this discussion that might normally have conveniently skirted certain underlying issues.

    Dr GP said and I, in part quote

    “…HOW WILL PUBLISHING OUR WATER QUALITY PREVENT US FROM HAVING A SOUTH COAST SEWAGE PROBLEM

    Are SAMPLES OF OUR WATER TESTED WEEKLY AS IT USED TO BE?

    IF NOT WHY NOT?

    IF IT IS HOW WILL PUBLISHING THIS INFO HELP? AND HELP WHO?…”

    The first point that his first query brings to head is totally logical.

    How does publishing the one help the other? Is that not reasonable to ask?

    Mr William Skinner made the interesting observation a few weeks ago about why was it that, with the proposed reparations payment/bribery by the University of Glasgow, was the reparations money to be paid to UWI?

    It is a valid question and maybe de ole man is wrong for my extrapolation, but maybe Mr Holder means to say that the water content will indicate the quality of shite management but the extrapolation IS NOT OBVIOUS.

    Secondly.

    Were it not for the Doctor’s observation rather question I would not have known that this was once a weekly test!

    That being the case, it begs the question why there have not been any weekly tests.

    Which then points to the issue of who is responsible for these tests not being done ? or there not being any followup in their absence

    Finally even I an ingrunt ole man can see where the doc is pointing

    Namely to an inept phone salesman General Manager who is always pun a holiday

    Or a next African feller who when he come heah could not rub two pennies together but now is a bogolord millionaire at the expense of bajans.

    Wunna ignore all these preceding points to arrive at the Doctor’s questions about what is your certification and not annoyed by what is a non issue.

    Now we voing be hurled back and forth between the accustomed ad hominem

    While we bajans bathing and drinking shite daily

    A bridge too Effing Far

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  • @A.Dullard

    The understanding is that it is a summary report prepared for public consumption.

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  • Redguard December 10, 2018 8:52 AM

    @GP

    You are quite right sir, publishing water quality is of no value whatsoever.
    AS JJ WOULD SAY I KKKKKKKKKKKKKNOW
    AND AS BUSH SHIT SAYS
    LOL
    ha ha

    re Environmental activists who don’t or can’t understand environmental science should stick to organising beach cleaning

    TO THAT I SAY ” GOOD BALL!”

    @ A. Dullard December 10, 2018 9:09 AM

    Did anyone besides Lucas read the link? I DOUBT IT VERY MUCH
    BU BRIMBLERS CAN ONLY OPINE AND DRIVEL ABOUT POLITICS

    It is more like a newspaper article than science. In fact, it is not really scientific at all.
    I AGREE WITH YOU AND DR LUCAS WHO CORRECTLY POSITS THAT “no statistical analyses of the results were presented to show a definitive correlation between emissions and asthma.”
    ONE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AT LEAST ONE OBJECTIVE OF THE STUDY

    RE @Blogmaster:
    Is it because it is Bajan that you posted that drivel?
    NO BU IS DRIVEL ORIENTED
    WHAT I FOUND MOST LUDICROUS WAS THAT ABOVE A STUDY ON AIR POLLUTION THERE WAS THE BOLD STATEMENT ABOUT publishing water quality

    EXACTLY THE SORT OF CHILDISH NONSEQUITUR FOR WHICH BUSH SHITE IS FAMOUS

    LOL
    ha ha

    this is de word of the childish blog jester

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  • @PUDRYR

    At the minimum the topic can move the discussion. This is where the focus needs to be.

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  • Word on the ground. The fish at Greame Hall sanctuary has died/dying because if the daily deluge of toxins which have been deposited into the swamp from the sewer plant
    Where are the socalled enviromentalist like Kammie Holder and all the other enviromentalist mouths who had invaded the island three years ago
    Where are all them at a crucial time when Gods protectors of the enviroment are being killed through no fault of their own

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  • PIECE
    RE Were it not for the Doctor’s question I would not have known that this was once a weekly test!
    THE PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT (NOT BWA) USED TO COLLECT SAMPLES OF WATER FROM SEVERAL LOCATIONS ALL AROUND BARBADOS AND SUBJECT IT TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH LABORATORY , THEN AT ENMORE, FOR ANALYSIS INCLUDING A COLIFORM COUNT

    RE At the minimum the topic can move the discussion.
    BY WHOM? WHO WILL DO THIS?
    WHERE ARE THE HIGHLY CREDENTIALED BU COMMENTERS?
    WILL BUSH TEA THE BIG GOOGLE SCIENTIST?
    LOL
    ha ha
    WILL DPD THE NEUROLOGIST AND EXPERT IN UK APHASIA (what ever dat is)
    and WHO ALSO SPECIALISES IN EMERGENCY POST MORTEMS AND CERVICAL INJURIES

    OR WILL YOU GET Environmental activists who don’t or can’t understand environmental science should stick to organising beach cleaning?
    LOL
    ha ha

    this is de word of a myopic child and de blog jester

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  • @A.Dullard
    The understanding is that it is a summary report prepared for public consumption.
    ++++++++++++++
    Fair enough. But the summary suggests the original is sub-par.

    On a another note, does anyone here test their own tap water?

    When I am in the island I do, and in the past few years the results point to low quality water. We now always boil our drinking water.
    Has anyone else seen this or is the low quality just a south coast thing?

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  • re Kammie Holder December 10, 2018 12:36 AM

    @David King, never argue with any one who insults others for they are at their best cowardly using anonymity to emotionally jerk themselves off.

    KAMMIE WHEN ARE YOU COMING BACK HERE WITH REAL INFO IN ORDER TO “emotionally jerk YOURSELF off?

    I HAVE LOTS OF TIME TODAY TO MOCK THE recognizeD citizen advocate Kammie Holder the the tireless work champion OF issues of concern, especially in the role as Advocacy Director at the Future Trust of Barbados.
    IT WILL BE AN EASY MOCK AS A CHILD AN BLOG JESTER WOULD DO
    LOL
    ha ha
    i got dat BUSH TEA LOL ha ha down pat

    LOL
    ha ha

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  • A. Dullard December 10, 2018 10:31 AM
    re in the past few years the results point to low quality water

    WHICH PART OF THE ISLAND DO YOU STAY SIR?
    OFF COURSE THIS SHOULD NOT BE SO ANYWHERE………….IN 1972 WE FOUND VERY LOW COLIFORM COUNTS IN THE WATER WE TESTED

    NOTE THE WATER WAS NOT FROM THE SAME SOURCE EVERY WEEK
    BACK THEN WE HAD VAUGHAN WELLS AND SIR MAURICE BYER AROUND AT THE TOP
    AND MEN LIKE FLR FRANCIS IN THE LAB

    this is de word of a myopic child and de blog jester
    LOL
    ha ha

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  • When the South Coast mess broke it was reported water quality testing was done and it passed the smell test.

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  • CLEAN AIR IS GOOD. POLLUTED AIR IS BAD.

    I am an asthmatic who has not had a major attack since I started using corticosteroids 30 years ago.

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  • When the South Coast mess broke it was reported water quality testing was done and it passed the smell test.
    No comment. You are a boss.
    In the Barbados context, this comment is bursting with meaning.

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  • LOL
    ha ha

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  • Geogie Porgie

    This is our country he is talking about … and whether what he has stated is rightfully conceived or wrongfully interpreted … you with your scholarly background ought to have redirected him with words of wisdom rather than with your puerile display of sarcasm…

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  • It would appear that our shouty streak of verbal diarrhoea the Grand Poobah does not have a life. How sad.

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  • Donks Gripe and Josh

    [45govt
    December 10, 2018 6:39 AM

    . With the trade winds a pretty constant factor I have NEVER experienced air pollution outside of a still day in Broad St. This is an irrelevance in the broad panoply of Bim’s problems.]

    Couldn’t agree with you more was the jackass who posited this as a major issue the same nincompoop who questioned our water quality when a few persons died suddenly. People die suddenly all over the world. Others are born to take their place. That’s the essence of the continuity of life. With residents like that numbskull our sweet isle doesn’t need enemies.

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  • RE It would appear that our shouty streak of verbal diarrhoea the Grand Poobah does not have a life. How sad.
    LOL
    ha ha

    I HAVE DONE SO MUCH RESEARCH ALREADY THIS MORNING ALONG TO LISTENING TO MY FAVOURITE ENGLISH CHOIRS SINGING THE MUSIC OF THE SEASON IN THE BACKGROUND

    FOR ME THAT IS LIVING
    NOW WILL YOU…CAN YOU ADD ANYTHING TO THE DISCUSSION?

    this is de word of a myopic child and de blog jester
    LOL
    ha ha
    signed by the SAD Grand Poobah
    LOL
    ha ha

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  • Clearly lifeless! 😩😩

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  • But Where are the enviromentslist that fought tooth and nail against the waste to energy plant
    What is happening in the swamp is a natural disaster in the making that would cost govt millions of dollars to repair plus an enviromental hazard to our water system

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  • The government has communicated that the outfall will be completed by mid month and then the work begins to regenerate the swamp. You are reminded the former government was redirecting waste to the swamp as well albeit not in the same volume. Then again we have the problem today because the former government ignored the warning.

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  • I have often wondered how the government managed to enact legislation banning tobacco smoking in public places as a protection to our health while turning a blind eye to the many diesel powered public and private vehicles that drive along our highways belching out volumes of noxious fumes, sometimes in the faces of pedestrians (school-aged children included), without fear or hindrance. Maybe diesel fumes have been deemed less harmful than tobacco smoke.

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  • Why would government see the urgency when it would be the biggest culprit given the maintenance record of its fleet?

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  • I asked a question and your answer is to responsed by talking about past govt
    So here we go again

    Where are the mouths of the enviromentalist who spoke openly and had environmental concerns when the WTE plant was being proposed
    Why the silence now when a bigger enviromental disaster has occured and one which would affect the people and water system

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  • Apples and oranges madam. One was a scam proposal that could not even pass the proof of concept stage; the other is the failure of a management system.

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  • Mariposa alluded to hearing rumors about fish dying. As a matter of fact, one would expect fish to die as a result of a process called eutrophication. Where there is an increase in the organic matter content of a body of water the chemical and biological oxygen demands (BOD and COD) of the water are affected.As a result, there is rapid growth of algae and other micro-organisms presence: there is a depletion in the oxygen content of the body of the water and fish die basically of oxygen starvation. The propose outflow will also result in a localized depletion of oxygen at the site of discharge resulting in what can be called a temporary desert in the ocean.

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  • @Dr. Lucas

    Will the proposed regeneration exercise after the outfall is completed remedy the problem of the swamp?

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  • David
    Cry aloud: for either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.”

    Now that Satan’s son has arisen from his lair ask him that question; as you know hje is a google scientist!

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  • this is a good topic for Satan’s son
    this google scientist knows a lot about water!
    LOL
    ha ha

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  • Look out, the air quality and aquatic ecologists are out. I shall only be listening to Dr.Lucas though.

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  • ENUFF
    MAN YA GOT TO LISTEN TO THE EXPERT IN HYDROLOGY MAN
    BUSH SHITE IS A GOOGLE SCIENTIST PUN WATER
    HE IS A BU HIGHLY CREDENTIALED COMMENTER

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  • Yet one would expect govt not to be using a process to accelerate and magnify the problem which leads to the depletion of oxygen and further killing of animal and plant in the swamp
    But would rather err on the side of caution with a haste and intent for correction
    Also taking into consideration that apart from being a sanctuary for animal and plant life
    The swamp also has a valuable purpose as a cooling system for the enviroment
    Sooner or later the daily and excessive toxins and other harmful substances that are emptied in the swamp would choke the mechansim known as the lungs and lead to the death or the way the swamp was made to function in protection of our enviroment

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  • Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

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  • For dummies only if the shoe fits wear it
    ……………………………………….

    Wetland destruction
    All wetlands have great value as natural ecosystems, and they all support species of plants and animals that occur nowhere else. Their usefulness in providing essential habitat for fish, birds, and other wildlife cannot be overstated. Similarly, humans gain from wetlands, which control floods and erosion, cleanse the water that flows through them, and extend supplies of water for drinking or irrigation. In addition, wetlands have an aesthetic (beauty) value that is priceless.

    Unfortunately, most of the world’s wetlands are being lost rapidly. Land developers drain and fill them in. Since the beginning of European settlement in America, more than 65 million acres have been lost. Often, wetlands are used for the disposal of municipal solid wastes and sewage. Run-offs of chemical pollutants from farmland further pollute wetlands, disturbing their delicate soil-water balance and endangering their many plant and animal species.

    .

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  • LOL
    ha ha
    come ac tell me about my swamp known to me from 1958
    tell me about its lungs
    and its valuable purpose as a cooling system for the enviroment
    and the way the swamp was made to function in protection of our enviroment
    AC LEFT OUT THE SWAMP
    YA OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE HERE
    THERE ARE ENOUGH ISSUES TO CUSS THE BLP ABOUT
    LEARN TO PICK YOUR BATTLES
    YOU DONT HAVE TO PLAY AT EVERY BALL
    LOL
    ha ha
    LOL
    ha ha

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  • What happens when wetlands are destroyed?
    Small-scale wetlands destruction can also have far-reaching effects. As they disappear, so too do their abilities to recharge groundwater, collect sediment, and trap pollutants. In addition, isolated wetlands often serve as crucial habitat for small populations of rare birds, insects, and amphibians.

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  • Forests are nature’s lungs, taking in carbon dioxide and providing oxygen. Rivers are its circulatory system, moving water long distances. Wetlands are vital organs, too – they are nature’s kidneys. … Cattails, which are found in many wetland ecosys- tems, are a perfect example of this plant purification in action.

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  • “AC LEFT OUT THE SWAMP…..YA OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE HERE…..THERE ARE ENOUGH ISSUES TO CUSS THE BLP ABOUT…..LEARN TO PICK YOUR BATTLES…..YOU DONT HAVE TO PLAY AT EVERY BALL…..”

    Georgie Porgie

    Why don’t you leave Mariposa alone?

    She has chosen to let Google be her friend by posting information to BU she regurgitated from the following link, as though she was the original author:

    idahoptv.org/sciencetrek/topics/wetlands/facts.cfm

    But, it doesn’t matter…… because she’ll be “told”: “Mariposa, you correct again, keep the pressure on,” which gives her much needed encouragement.

    LOL
    Ha ha

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  • @ ARTAX
    I WILL OBEY YOU SIR
    LOL
    Ha ha

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  • Mariposa, you correct again, keep the pressure on,”

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  • Once my comments bring out Artax i know i am doing something right
    The fact remains that govt using the swamp and ocean as a dumping ground for toxins serves no one any good
    Laughter although it can be deemed good medicine would not stave off in the near future the damage that was done to the swamp a part of natures helping hand to protect the enviroment
    Those who laugh first never laugh last.
    In any case when what i have stated which would inevitably happen if drastic steps are not made to heed warnings and correct the problem
    Mariposa indeed would not be laughing .

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  • Yes i refer to google because of the Class A idiots on BU who thinks they are the rightful owners of knowledge
    We are all connected to nature. Human beings might belive that they possess all the intellect
    However for what it is worth nature always have the last word
    Mankind has a morbid way of inflecting horros on the enviroment that nature does not find amusing
    Take a look at all the devastion caused by floods fires and earthquakes most of which can be attributed to man selfinterst and nature in response rewards mankind with a rebellious form of punishment

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  • “Once my comments bring out Artax i know i am doing something right…”

    Please….

    Far from it, Mariposa……..don’t flatter yourself.

    What I pointed out was the fact you regurgitated information from a website, without identifying the source……and as though you were the original author.

    The last time I checked, plagiarism was wrong, but if you believe you’re “doing something right”…… then, so be it.

    But rather than focus on me, perhaps you should have concentrated more effort in addressing GP’s remarks re: “AC LEFT OUT THE SWAMP…..YA OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE HERE….” and “LEARN TO PICK YOUR BATTLES…..YOU DONT HAVE TO PLAY AT EVERY BALL…..”

    He seems to be of the opinion you’re not “doing something right.”

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  • “Yes i refer to google because of the Class A idiots on BU who thinks they are the rightful owners of knowledge..”

    Hmmmm……

    I hope you’re not referring to Dr. Georgie, because it would be disrespectful of you to include a man with his knowledge and expertise in “the Class A idiots on BU.”

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  • Artax December 10, 2018 9:00 PM
    RE I hope you’re not referring to Dr. Georgie, because it would be disrespectful of you to include a man with his knowledge and expertise in “the Class A idiots on BU.”

    YOU GWINE GET INTO TROUBLE BOY
    YOU ARE NOW AT VARIANCE WID DE BIG BOYS ON BU WHO REFER TO ME AS A CHILD AND BLOG JESTER
    LOL
    ha ha

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  • One does not need goggle to understand mankind negative behaviour towards the enviroment and its impact
    That should be basic common sense
    as basic as garbage in garbage out
    How does one expect to be poisoning any organism and expect it to response positively in a manner by which nature plan was that of being a mechanism for our well being
    I am not a scientist but a basic understanding of nature would be enough for any one to identify what is right or proper for the enviroment
    There is no one here on BU who in good conscience would agree or concede that govt role in helping to poision our underground water system and further destruction of the swamp with toxins is right.
    Good night let your conscience be your guide

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  • “YOU ARE NOW AT VARIANCE WID DE BIG BOYS ON BU WHO REFER TO ME AS A CHILD AND BLOG JESTER..”

    Georgie Porgie

    Wuh, dah en bad. Referring to you as “a child and blog jester” is “cake” compared to what I have been “called.” The bigger boys refer to me in much more unflattering and pejorative terms.

    The resident pantomath described me as “an appallingly ignorant retarded liar.” The resident sesquipedalian wrote I’m “a BLP retriever,” while a newly resurrected back-yard “gallus gallus domesticus” referred to me a “BLP stool pigeon and pure bred jackass,” and someone who has an unhealthy attachment to BU “says” I have “psychotic breaks and melt-downs.”

    So, GP wuh yuh worrying ’bout?

    LOL
    He He (not me an dah “Ha, Ha” t’ing…… a fella might get offended)

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  • No one seems to be laughing at present
    Last but not least..The seriousness and the long term sustainability and viability of the swamp would not be fixed with laughter when the chickens come home to roost
    Barbados does not have the financial leverage in correcting its problems therefore going forward we must handle with care those valuables assests that nature gave us for free and the same swamp is one of the few.

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  • So, GP wuh yuh worrying ’bout?
    NOT WORRIED……….EXCEPT THAT I MIGHT FALL OUT OF MY CHAIR CAUSE THEY MAKE ME LAUGH
    YOU SEE I KNOW WHO I AM WHERE I CAME FROM HOW I GOT HERE AND WHERE I AM GOING

    LOL
    He He (not me an dah “Ha, Ha” t’ing…… a fella might get offended) LET HIM
    AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED HE CAN GO TO THE ABYSS LITERALLY AND REMAIN THERE
    I SINCERELY BELIEVE THAT HE BELONGS THERE

    THESE FELLAS AND GIVE IT BUT DONT LIKE IT WHEN YOU RESPOND
    LOL
    ha ha

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  • ac
    the swamp was there since I knew myself
    no one cared a damn about it except some white men who shot migratory birds towards the end of the year………and dear donald the caretaker and jack cox who run us boys who traverse the banking road long unkept for more than 40 years—it was our short cut to school and church and the police station to play table tennis or to the beach

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  • so what is your point. although you might not be aware that during your younger years the swamp was in pristine condition in the manner and way nature had intended
    fast forward to your older years the swamp has been subjected to an uninvited neighbor known as a sewer plant having a landlord who spews garbage daily into its lungs and kidneys without having or giving respect
    but what de hell the people also laughed at Noah

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  • you more like Noah’s wife than Noah old girl
    LOL
    ha ha

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  • Lol
    Now go to sleep

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  • I give up! I shall prepare my ass for the grass or the rapture – whichever comes first.

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  • Barbados is in deep doo doo
    We have the mcgufee IMF looking after their own interest
    We have a govt changing policies at a drop at a hat at tge suffering of irs people
    And we have the people laughing at their own self inflicted demise
    And the one only assets(swamp) that nature gifted Barbados for the protection and well being of its people being destroyed
    Are we a nation of ignoramus or what?

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  • “And the one only assets(swamp) that nature gifted Barbados for the protection and well being of its people being destroyed…”

    Mariposa

    I’m curious, since, unlike you, I’m not an expert on swamps.

    Could you please explain the above comment……. without the use of your usual generalized statements and metaphors?

    How a swamp located in Graeme Hall, Christ Church assist in “the protection and well being of people” living in Connell Town, St. Lucy?

    By referring to Graeme Hall Swamp as “the one only asset that nature gifted Barbados,” it’s obvious you’re not aware of the Chancery Lane Swamp, near Inch Marlow, Christ Church…..and other wet lands across Barbados.

    This is where I have to question if your “fighting this cause” is genuine or politically motivated.

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  • @ Donna
    I give up! I shall prepare my ass for the grass or the rapture – whichever comes first.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    This is the most intelligent contribution in weeks.

    When all the weather reports predict a category 5 is imminent;
    When the satellite reports show the track is near to 100% certain to pass over your house…
    When you look around and see the ominous clouds … the strange behaviours of the animals and birds..
    When your gut tells you that some shiite is SERIOUSLY not right….

    …yours is a sensible, logical decision.

    Two small problems….

    1 – Forget the ‘rapture’ dogma… this is just wishful thinking on the part of people who have the ability to fool themselves about totally ridiculous religious concepts …. like the ‘Trinity’ for example…

    This ‘Rapture’ fallacy gives you the misleading idea that you can just sit around in a cheap apartment watching TV and eating fish cakes – while hatefully disparaging anyone that crosses your path, …and then when the shit hits the fan, you will somehow be miraculously hoisted to a land of milk and honey …to watch the others suffer….

    Lotta shiite….. Look out for the grass…!!!

    2 – Having come to your senses (…that a Cat 5 storm is inevitable), how do you plan to use the little time you have left before it hits…?
    Bushie strongly suggests finding a shelter that can protect you from such a storm…. and that you make sure that your shelter is secure.. not some ridiculous philosophical mumbo jumbo that cannot withstand simple critical analyses – such as why the chief spokesman went out of his way to hide the TRUTH from people who followed him around…
    ….or how one of the ‘Trinity’ could have been dead for three long days..

    Good luck D

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  • I am aware of that swamp however bodies of water are connected with underground inlets and outlets for many reasons which provides water form one body to another and in the process of interchange if one body is polluted it goes to reason that contamination can spread and negatively affect all

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  • @ Maripoka
    So you learn all about the importance of swamplands AFTER May 26th?

    When the Graeme Hall development was allowed to run to ruin for ten years were you ignorant?
    When the swamp was being contaminated (in secret) under the Dr. shiite hound (formerly pitBall) were you ignorant?

    If you had raised genuine concerns then, Bushie would be disposed to listening to you now…

    But to be honest … you just sound like another shitty yardfowl …talking your usual shiite…
    …even if it happens to be ‘good shiite’ in this particular instance.

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  • sATAN WAS A LIAR FROM THE BEGINNING SAYS JESUS IN JOHN 8:44
    SO ONE CAN EXPECT HIS SON AND REPRESENTATIVE ON BU TO LIE TODAY
    THE CONCEPT OF THE RAPTURE WAS INTRODUCED INTHE BIBLE BY NONE OTHER THAN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IN JOHN 11 THUS
    Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.

    24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

    25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

    26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

    AND JOHN 14 THUS
    Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

    2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

    4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

    5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

    6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    OTHER MAIN SCRIPTURES CONCERNING THE RAPTURE ARE FOUND AT I CORINTHIANS 15:51-54 THUS
    Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

    52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

    54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
    AND I THESSALONIANS 4
    But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

    14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

    15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

    SATAN CONTINUES TO SLANDER INEFFECTIVELY
    This ‘Rapture’ fallacy gives you the misleading idea that you can just sit around in a cheap apartment watching TV and eating fish cakes –
    NO WE OWN A 3 BR 2.5 B HOME AND HAVE AN EXPANSIVE DIET
    THANK GOD

    EARLIER IN THE YEAR IN THE BODY OF WORK FOR SCRUTINY I POSTED A COMPREHENSIVE NOTE ON THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH
    WE SANG A LITTLE CHORUS IN SUNDAY SCHOOL THAT WENT LIKE THIS

    I MET JESUS AT THE CROSSROADS
    WHERE THE TWO ROADS MET

    SATAN TOO WAS STANDING THERE
    AND HE SAID “COME THIS WAY
    LOTS AND LOTS OF PLEASURES I WILL GIVE TO YOU TODAY

    BUT I SAID NO
    THERES JESUS HERE
    AND THIS IS WHAT HE OFFERS ME

    DOWN HERE MY SINS FORGIVEN
    UP THERE A HOME IN HEAVEN
    PRAISE GOD
    THATS THE WAY FOR ME

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  • I ACTUALLY LEARNED THIS ONE IN THE ANGLICAN CHURCH AS A BOY

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  • Bushie My message / comments were not meant for the ignorant
    In any case u can have it your way .have a nice day

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  • Jesus is coming! O sing the glad word!
    Coming for those He redeemed by His blood,
    Coming to reign as the glorified Lord!
    Jesus is coming again!

    Refrain

    Jesus is coming, is coming again!
    Jesus is coming again!
    Shout the glad tidings o’er mountain and plain!
    Jesus is coming again!

    Jesus is coming! The dead shall arise,
    Loved ones shall meet in a joyful surprise,
    Caught up together to Him in the skies
    Jesus is coming again!

    Refrain

    Jesus is coming! His saints to release;
    Coming to give to the warring earth peace:
    Sinning and sighing, and sorrow shall cease.
    Jesus is coming again.

    Refrain

    Jesus is coming! The promise is true;
    Who are the chosen, the faithful, the few,
    Waiting and watching, prepared for review?
    Jesus is coming again!

    Refrain

    SING ALONG WITH ME WITH THE MUSIC BELOW

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  • SATAN’S SON CAUSED ME TO GET UP THIS MORNING WITH A SONG IN MY HEART

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  • IT IS EVIDENT OH SON OF SATAN THAT God is working his purpose out,

    1 God is working his purpose out,
    as year succeeds to year,
    God is working his purpose out,
    and the time is drawing near;
    nearer and nearer draws the time,
    the time that shall surely be,
    when the earth shall be filled with the glory of God
    as the waters cover the sea

    .2 From utmost east to utmost west,
    wherever feet have trod,
    by the mouth of many messengers
    goes forth the voice of God,
    ‘Give ear to me, ye continents,
    ye isles, give ear to me,
    that the earth may be filled with the glory of God
    as the waters cover the sea.

    ‘3 What can we do to work God’s work,
    to prosper and increase
    the love of God in all mankind,
    the reign of the Prince of peace?
    What can we do to hasten the time,
    the time that shall surely be,
    when the earth shall be filled with the glory of God
    as the waters cover the sea?

    4 March we forth in the strength of God,
    with the banner of Christ unfurled,
    that the light of the glorious gospel of truth
    may shine throughout the world;
    fight we the fight with sorrow and sin,
    to set their captives free,
    that the earth may be filled with the glory of God
    as the waters cover the sea.

    5 All we can do is nothing worth
    unless God blesses the deed;
    vainly we hope for the harvest-tide
    till God gives life to the seed;
    yet nearer and nearer draws the time,
    the time that shall surely be,
    when the earth shall be filled with the glory of God
    as the waters cover the sea.

    Source: HYMNS Ancient and Modern:

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  • THE MESSAGE THAT GOD IS WORKING HIS PURPOSE OUT IS EVERYWHERE
    THIS IS VERY VERY GOOD SINGING

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  • Bushie,

    No problems here. You know how I view the Bible. I am not a creature of dogma. Preparing myself for the rapture entails nothing more than what I am doing now. Whether or not there is a rapture, whether or not there is a heaven, whether or not there is a hell or whether or not there is even an afterlife does not concern me. If I spend my time loving and expressing that love in tangible ways I will die happy. What could be better than spreading joy? Money? Power? Hatred? Scoring points on BU?????????

    P.S. Preparing my ass for the grass also entails nothing more than what I am currently doing. My remarks were tongue in cheek referencing your approach versus GP’s.

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  • DONNA
    JUST KNOW THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOGMA AND DOCTRINE

    THERE IS CHURCH OR DENOMINATIONAL DOGMA AND THERE IS BIBLE DOCTRINE

    A BIBLE DOCTRINE IS USUALLY SUPPORTED BY A NUMBER OF SCRIPTURES EACH RIGHTLY DIVIDED IN THEIR CONTEXT. A DOCTRINE CAN NOT BE REFUTED AS IT IS SCRIPTURE- GOD’S WORD

    A CHURCH OR DENOMINATIONAL DOGMA IS A BELIEF OR SET OF PRACTICES PRACTICED BY A CHURCH GROUP OR DENOMINATION, DOGMAS ARE THE TRADITIONS OF MAN, AND USUALLY HAVE NO BIBLICAL WARRANT

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  • NOTE THAT MY THOUGHTS ON THE RAPTURE ARE BASED NOT ON DENOMINATIONAL DOGMA BUT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT THE EVENT THAT BEGINS THE DAY OF THE LORD, OR THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST

    IT IS NOT MY OPINION
    IT IS NOT A TEACHING THAT I THOUGHT UP
    COMPARE THAT WITH THE PRACTICE OF LENT OR STATIONS OF THE CROSS ETC

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  • How one interprets the Bible is a denominational matter. But you are missing the point. I do not care about getting to heaven or avoiding hell or being raptured or any sort of after earth life reward. The command of Jesus that we love one another is good enough for me. I have found that to be rewarding in itself. But you see that 45 govt – he is a hard man to even think about loving!

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  • How one interprets the Bible is a denominational matter. WHY IS THAT?
    DO FOLK OF DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS NOT INTERPRET SHERIDAN OR CHAUCER OR KEATS OR BYRON THE SAME? WHY IS BIBLE INTERPRETATION THE SAME?

    I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND THAT IS YOUR CHOICE
    BUT THE SAME JESUS WHO SAID THAT WE SHOULD LOVE ONE ANOTHER WAS THE FIRST TO SAY THAT HE IS COMING AGAIN FOR HIS FOLLOWERS. IN FACT THAT WAS ONE OF HIS MAJOR TEACHINGS ISSUES SURROUNDING THIS OCCUPIES MORE CHAPTERS IN JOHN’S GOSPEL THAN ANY OTHER

    THREE CHAPTERS IN THREE OF THE GOSPELS ADDRESS THE SECOND COMING

    THERE ARE MORE VERSES IN THE WORD ON THE RETURN OF CHRIST THAN ON ANY OTHER SUBJECT IN THE BIBLE

    EVERY OT PROPHET TEACHES IT EXCEPT JONAH

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  • DO FOLK OF DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS NOT INTERPRET SHERIDAN OR CHAUCER OR KEATS OR BYRON THE SAME? WHY IS BIBLE INTERPRETATION NOT THE SAME?
    WHY IS BIBLE INTERPRETATION DIFFERENT?

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  • By the time the rapture come. All would dead because of natures wrath brought upon mankind because of mankind total disrespect and disregard for the laws of nature.

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  • Not really. People interpret poetry and art according to their experience. But you are still missing my point. I never said there will not be a rapture or an afterlife. I just said I do not concern myself with these things whether they are or will be because it does not affect my behaviour.

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  • Wahlosss Mariposa call muh ah dummy cuz she googled wetlands, cut and paste. When I was studying aquatic and terrestrial ecology, EIAs etc where were you mi love? Buying weave? Dead wid laff!!

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  • @ Enuff
    When I was studying aquatic and terrestrial ecology, EIAs etc where were you mi love?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Weak case…
    cause..
    Dr. GP spent eons studying the bible and science
    …and yet he thought that water was water …was simple water… (until enlightened here on BU)
    …and yet he cannot explain how a dead man factored into the Trinity….. (enlightenment pending)
    …and yet he supports the pu$$y grabbing, bold-faced liar…

    Skippa..
    If you wish to dispel what Maripoka is saying – then COME with facts…
    We are NOT interested in your CV

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