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It is also about the right to dissent in a civilized manner. Genuine political opposition is a necessary attribute of democracy, tolerance, and trust in the ability of citizens to resolve differences by peaceful means. The existence of an opposition, without which politics ceases and administration takes over, is indispensable to the functioning of parliamentary political systems. If these systems are perceived as not working well – as being “seriously overloaded,” to quote a distinguished Canadian Opposition Leader, the Hon. Robert Stanfield – it may be the rights of political oppositions which are immediately and most visibly at stake, but ultimately the threat is to democratic rights and freedoms generally. The following paper is an attempt to come to grips with the challenging nature of the opposition’s role in Parliament, specifically in the Canadian context – THE OPPOSITION IN A PARLIAMENTARY SYSTEM

Senator Caswell Franklyn has been scathing in his criticism of a few decisions made by the newly installed Mia Mottley government. He has expressed in the usual caustic manner his disagreement with the appointments of David Comissiong and Charles Jong as Ambassador of CARICOM and Director of Communications respectively. Caswell’s issue with the appointments is why should taxpayers have to fund the two positions. And isn’t the Government Information Service (GIS) equipped to deliver the same support.

Another story caught the eye of the blogmaster this week – a widely promoted DLP lunchtime lecture by former minister Donville Inniss was abruptly cancelled by Freundel Stuart. Although the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) was rejected at the polls on the 24 May 2018, the executive of the party with Freudel Stuart as leader remains firmly in position until August when the AGM is scheduled to elect officers of the party.

The two news events reminded the blogmaster to confirm the role of an Opposition in the parliamentary democracy we strive to practice in Barbados. The following summarizes the importance of an Opposition which is to “check and prod, but ultimately to replace the government party“.

In the early life of the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) government many social commentators will be inclined to be less strident during the traditional “honeymoon period”. That said, it should not include the Leader of the Opposition Bishop Joseph Atherley whom the Constitution of Barbados supports in the role. In the first six weeks of the Mottley government we have had several ‘questionable’ decisions taken that merit fuller explanation. It does not mean the decisions are illegal, it has more to do with the citizenry being eternally vigilant which is the price to be paid to keep a fragile democracy alive.

A few questions have been asked about the process that led to the appointment of Atherley by the Governor General Sandra Mason. Many suspect the 30-0 result at the last poll created a lacuna and the result has given rise to a contrived opposition presence in the House of Assembly. To date Senator Caswell Franklyn in the Upper House has been more vocal in the role as ‘opposition’ compared to the Leader of the Opposition in the Lower House. It is early days but some say first impressions count!

What does all of this have to do with the cancellation of Donville Inniss’ lunch time lecture?

The DLP received the most votes in the last general election from the also-rans. In the minds of many Barbadians it is the de facto opposition voice. In the first past the post system 33, 985 votes were cast for the DLP which created a 30-0 result that will forever  haunt the party. What has piqued the interest of the blogmaster is the lack of urgency by the DLP party to embrace the role of opposition from outside the House of Assembly. A feeble attempt was made by Inniss, Estwick, De Peiza and Lashley to offer critique of the BLP’s mini budget. We understand the party needs to organize itself by having the obligatory retreats and election of officers but is there an opportunity being missed by the party to re-establish itself quickly? The nothingness coming from the party post 2018 General Election is not unlike the period when late David Thompson fell sick in the role as prime minister and Stuart again was guilty of doing nothing.

How long will the DLP continue be Missing In Action? Will another rise up to fill the vacuum?

 

 

 

 


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  2. De facto opposition? In the minds of barbadians (all)? What gives you the right to make such a collective and propaganda orient statement?


  3. This view of the DLP being the de facto Opposition is an appalling ignorance of our electoral system. It is based on the number of seats in our first-past-the-post system, not the number of votes. It is the same kind of illogic that Hillary Clinton was on about in a system based on an Electoral College. The popular vote is a theoretical thing in our system. What matters is the number of seats you have won.
    If the DLP lost every set by a single vote, and the UPP and Solutions Barbados did so by hundreds of votes, the end result is the same. The DLP has no greater advantage than the other parties.


  4. Interesting article.Will read and digest further before commenting.


  5. This is not theory, it is cultural. The DLP has been part of a duopoly and as at today none of the third parties have done enough to elevate to top of mind status. They lack the party machinery, charismatic leadership, finances and compelling policies.


  6. Stop the elementary silliness. Party machinery, charismatic leadership, finances and compelling policies do not make a group of people an Opposition.
    Where is the DLLP’s machinery? Have a look back at May 24 and see how it performed. Where is its charismatic leadership? Stuart? (Plse get your dictionary out and look at the meaning of charismatic). Finances? Come on. Compelling policies? How compelling? So much so that the voters in Barbados elected a new government that did not spell out a single policy prior to the vote.
    This emotional nonsense if not analysis.


  7. In a democracy the people have a right to be vocal or be silent
    So if the dlp choose the later option that is their right as well ss their prerogative
    So shut to hell up and leave the dlp alone.
    The people gave the blp the mandate and there is where your focus should be
    The people made their voices clear as to whom they want to hear and it was not the dlp


  8. Now David has stooped to a new low by way of the politics of distraction


  9. @ David,

    The DLP should focus on rebuilding the party so they are ready in five years.

    They need to carefully select new representatives for each constituency.

    The “old guard ” should retire from active politics but can give advice when needed.


  10. Yes Hants, the party enjoys presence in the political space. It calls for some transformation and like the BLP has done embrace a sensible strategy which includes a communications plan that brings it closer to the people. It became a party of silence, a government that preferred to be silent and was embarrassed at the polls. Surely it has taken some notes?

    If the blogmaster were leading the DLP a politics of inclusion would be top of mind, lure the Chrystal Austins et al from the other parties, have a caretaker leader from outside the party be a face in the short term.


  11. The lesson of the two party system was well played out in the 19th century with the Tories and Whigs; they eventually merged and the Liberals stepped up to be the other party. In the 20th century, especially post-second world war, the Labour party replaced the Liberals as the second party in the duopoly.
    Eventually in the 1990s, the SDP emerged, but failed to make an impact and they merged with the Liberals to become Liberal Democrats.
    In Barbados it was the same. We had the BLP/Conservatives, BLP/Nationalist, then the Young Turks emerged to form the DLP and the duopoly became the BLP/DLP. The NDP emerged after the internal strife in the DLP, but died a natural death. Just before his untimely death, Sir Richard was thinking of re-activating the NDP. Nothing came of it.
    So, from history, we have seen that although there will be a two-party duopoly in a first-past-the-post electoral system, it does not have to be the same two parties. It is as good a bet as any that the DLP will be out of power for a generation.
    None of those who served under Thompson/Stuart can put themselves forward as potential leaders of the DLP. It is a fantasy. And there is no objective evidence that voters preferred the BLP to the DLP. What they voted for was any party but he DLP. The parties that really lost the general election were UPP and Solutions Barbados, for all the reasons we have talked about. From the way the BLP is shaping up it looks very much like a one parliament government.


  12. @Hal
    The blogmaster’s
    “This is not theory, it is cultural. The DLP has been part of a duopoly and as at today none of the third parties have done enough to elevate to top of mind status. They lack the party machinery, charismatic leadership, finances and compelling policies.”
    is an accurate assessment of things as they stand>

    It boggles my mind that after 50 years of having the DLP in leadership or in opposition you would quibble at the statement “in the minds of many Barbadians it is the de facto opposition voice”.

    It seems unnecessary to point out that the ‘0’ in 30-0 is the number of seats won by the other opposition parties and not the number of Bajan who voted for them. This simple fact seem to have confused the oftentimes brilliant but now ‘shallow Hal’.

    You have a knack of getting his nice newly knitted nickers knotted.

    You can pontificate on the future of the DLP and on how many seats it won, but I suspect that the ghost of EWB lives in more Bajan hearts than those that consider themselves as members of other opposition parties.

    This close to an election we may consider the DLP as dead or non-existent, but given time and the correct circumstances we may see them re-emerge and push the other parties off the stage. Grenville Phillips and other party leaders are managing this period of time badly, allowing a vacuum to exist when they should be trying to take center stage as the ‘de facto opposition’.

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  13. @Hal
    “It is as good a bet as any that the DLP will be out of power for a generation.”

    Hyperbole. I suspect that you had one too many pints in celebrating England’s soccer victory.

    A generation is “30 years” and the Barbadian memories last for 10 years. DLP back in office at 10 years maximum. Based on Mia’s current trajectory, a three-peat can be rule out. Three-peat being three victories in a row;


  14. Great blog. It is so in line with my thinking that I see the blogmaster is beginning to regain his clarity. Welcome back.

  15. Are-we-there-yet Avatar
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    I also see a possibility that the BLP could be a one-term government if internal and external factors combine to produce significant dissillusionment with the way the BLP is running the Government and the effects of the austerity measures on the people in general.

    Barbados does not have a history of adaptation to such measures as many of our neighbours have. How the youth react to new policies that might not be palatable and how they react to the doubters is going to be of great importance to the longevity or otherwise of this Government. They have started well under their energetic and wise leader, but the race is not necessarily won by those who are swift out of the blocks.

    The BLP needs to be able to recognize, react to and remedy the blowback on any mistakes it makes and therein might lie the rationale for its seeming attempt to blur the lines between the GIS and the BLP’s communication arm. But Festina lente might be the best way to go on that one.

  16. NorthernObserver Avatar
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    The DLP will reinvent itself under NEW LEADERSHIP. The disenchantment with the last administration was numerically demonstrated at the polls. FJS was a very weak leader. The silence he exhibited as PM, and which has continued, is unlikely under new leadership. The truth is the D’s likely had as many cracks within their ranks, as the B’s have within theirs. Power has a habit of quietening internal opposition. They are not the first incumbent party to have the power go to their heads, and produce a level of almost intolerable arrogance, which results in a defeat; one which everybody could see coming, except them.


  17. @AWTY

    You are correct, the harsh measures that will have to be endured by the people given the state of the economy can easily make this government unpopular in the current term. However the DLP will not be able to capitalize unless it transforms by making itself relevant. Under Stuart post 24 May the party seems to accept that being in abeyance mode is a good option.


  18. But David why are the harsh measures necessary?

    We dont think that Barbadians understand that the DLP totally destroyed the economy and someone has to clean up the mess? Barbadians are fair people and as I move around…..people are saying that Mia was dealt a bad hand and it is going to take sometime to turn around things and that people need to have patience.

    Six weeks into a new administration and people are talking about a one term………..and turn to who?……….have you all been noticing the blood letting going on in George Street?


  19. I wonder if Caswell knows that he is serving at Mia’s pleasure?


  20. Prodigal do u understand what it is like to be on minium wage have two mouths to feed pay rent and have to pay other necessities to keep the household up and running then govt puts an adfitional cost of 1.45 per day on water
    Good lord have a heart


  21. Leader of the Opposition Bishop Joseph Atherley whom the Constitution of Barbados supports in the role.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    This is where we differ!!!

    Reverend Joe cannot be said to represent those in opposition to the Government.

    It is an unconstitutional collifaux!!


  22. Furthermore repeating the dam lie about past govt put barbados in debt after a while will fall on deaf years.
    Reason being that Mia bold faced on the campagain told the people she would ease their pain by putting money in their pockets the people belive Mia and that is what the people expected
    Now if Mia and the blp yardfowls think that when bajans continue to feel the pressure of those taxes that mia spin about the economy would take the pain away
    Mia has a rude awakening of another expectation
    Barbadians not going to buy all that rhetoric even the long lines at the gas station was a signal that barbadians put their pocket books first.


  23. Btw i hear that govt closing Worthing beach for two weeks in order to drain the swamp.
    I guess all that shit will now go back in the ocean. Phew
    This is the govt that had all the answers now having to use political spin and jargon to hoodwinked the people


  24. There is “too much flotsam in the river” t permit the DLP to “reconstitute itself” in such a way that the current expired cadavers of the DLP demonic bunch, come back to life.

    Before they even try it let the ole man tell them that IF THEY THOUGHT THAT DE GRANDSON’S STOOPID CARTOONS DID THEM IN, what the BLP has archived on their performance, and will AUGMENT DURING THIS AUDIT, will bury them forever.

    Nary one of them can return. They have to get new faces or plastic surgery like Kate Jenner AND name changes

    As it relates to the BLP and self imploding, it has started its tenure wrong with the firing of that Napoleon woman at the NHC, in a dictatorial way, by a man who is a Pain in the side of the new administration.

    Then, in short shrift, they append this by hiring one Bim Pay-mi Long, followed shortly afterwards with the bribing of David Come Sing A Song.

    True they cleaned up some shyte pumps but whu else dem do?

    It is evident that in their nature to effect their business via deals, and backdoor mechanisms, and unfortunately, THAT SIGNATURE MOVE, THOUGH EXPECTED, WILL BE THEIR UNDOING.

    They have an opportunity to show that “Mia Cares” with these two bugbears the Freedom of Information Act and the Integrity Commission/Integrity in Public Life Bill

    But, with certain people at the wheel, those situations we already are seeing in the news, displays a singular outcome, unilateral, system-wide, hirings of mysterious persons who are tarnished in other CARICOM MEMBER STATES and firings by less than honourable Ministers embroiled in land teifing.

    As to that third movement talk, any third party HAS to DO SOMETHING that bajans benefit from and ONCE AGAIN it is evident that the calibre of these existing parties is substandard, at best, with their best only securing 4000 votes.

    @ The Honourable Blogmaster – i saw what you did heheheheh but dat is okay cause you dun know heheheheheh


  25. This is going to be the worst Crop Over ever already the ramblings have begun over 20 bands not participating
    Then today noises coming about concerns surrounding planed events
    One beef after another
    Only three weeks and the wheels falling off Mia wagon every where u look


  26. @ the Honourable Blogmaster

    Your assistance please with an item on the subject being discussed thank you


  27. @Prodigal Son

    Yes there is a feeling of confidence and pride beginning to ooze back into the Bajan space. Listening to Mia in Jamaica this week brought back memories. To see how the leaders reacted to a Barbados prime minister like they did in the past was refreshing. The point is that this feel good factor will take the government so far. At the household level individuals must feel like there is hope.


  28. @ The Honourable Blogmaster

    You said and i quote “…At the household level individuals must feel like there is hope…”

    Bajans must not “feel” that there is hope they have to be part of the motion of the river going downstream.

    Watching Chris Stinkliar passing by in his multimillion dollar launch at Port St Charles is not sufficient and then to see Mottley and her peoples riding down the coastline in pretty ferries with 30 uh dem getting Ministerial Salaries while we jes seeing dem cleaning upi big shyte bins ENT GOING LAST FOR LONG.

    AS THE IMF WILL CONFIRM SOON

  29. Fractured BLP Avatar

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2018/07/07/update-haiti-govt-suspends-fuel-price-hike/

    Wow 😳 !

    PM Mottley introduces Fuel ⛽️ Tax !

    Next thing Bajans knew – Haitians can walk FREELY into Barbados 🇧🇧 !!

    So I ask again , what are the Haitians fighting for !


  30. Btw i hear that govt closing Worthing beach for two weeks in order to drain the swamp.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Saw a multitude of signs yesterday propped up against Liz’s Beach Facility saying just that, Beach closed.

    No doubt the signs cost a pound and a crown!!!

    Guess they will be posted along the beach in the following days …. a good time to drain the swamp and let the rainy season purge it!!

    They need to either get a pipe out to sea from the Graeme Hall Sewage Plant, or … miracles of miracles, tertiary treat the effluent.

    The injection wells only put the effluent in the nearshore and defeat the entire purpose for the existence of a sewage system!!


  31. The injection well are a temporary fix to allow work to be done on the lines, you know this is the reason.


  32. It is obvious that all the sewage would be heading for the water
    Sooner or later the international enviromental protection bureaucrats in tow with Ramsar international will give Barbados a visit and demand a thorough cleanup of the swamp this is inevitable and demand that the swamp can no longer be used as a dumping ground for sewage
    The dumping of sewage in the swamp is unconscienable and should never have happened
    The fact that govt is closing Worthing Beach has all the tell tale signs and markings of toxic waste being removed from the swamp and govt has been advised by the BWA authorities to closed the beach
    However rather that govt tell the people the truth they hide behind a PR stunt of indicating that the hurricane season was the reason for lowering the water levels in the swamp
    But the question should be asked how high are the water levels and should not be the levels be lowered as a prerequisite to avoid overflow periodically.
    The swamp is a living breathing organism and should be treated with respect it is part of natures way in providing a clean and natural enviroment for all of natures species human plant and animal life it collect toxins that when place in the atmosphere would be deadly to all of life
    However the swamp in its best form cannot ideally handle the massive tons of toxins from the sewer plant dump daily and would have no other option but to allow these toxins to be released in the underground soil and also in the air that we breathe
    The sewer plant problems is not only one of fixing leakage but a creation of multiple problems inside and outside of the plant all which are catastrophic to all forms of living species
    Now today the govt having no other option of getting rid of the sewage dumped in the swamp from the sewer plant is forced to release them in the sea unaware of the fact that while the sewage is being shovelled out to sea they released a deadly form of toxins which would be emitted into the atmodphere which would impact all live in the future
    Barbadains in the coming years would be infected with all forms of diseases which most likely to impact the lungs because of invasive toxins which were released in the air because of govts policies of putting the cart before the 🐎
    The sewer plant needs to be closed


  33. Where are the Kammie Holders and the foot soldiers and the bootleggers who invaded barbados to kill the WTE plant
    Where are all these voices when right before they very eyes an unconscienable act of deadly catastrophic proportions is seeping into barbados waterways along with a deadly proportion of toxins thrown in the air because of the ongoing damage to the swamp all due to govt policies which thought it to be acceptable to have sewage dump in the swamp an area designated for the purpose and protection of wild life and a swamp whose sole purpose is to protect all life
    Well sooner or later with voices closed to this deadly act barbadians would pay the ultimate prices
    Nature has no fury like a woman scorned


  34. Mariposa you can save the crocodile tears ,since when you cared about Bajans hardsip ?Probably,since May 24th as when Mr Sinckler and Mr Stuart were placing tax after tax on people I did not hear youexpressing this concern.You believe you speaking to 5 year olds?All you Dems were concern with was Party survival but you got a rude awakening and now we are seeing the Dems true colours with the infighting in George Street between Mr Inniss and others like Mr stuart.Where is all the pretence unity you were speaking about,while speaking about cliques in the BLP.In my view it was all a charade hoping to be reelected but we will soon see about that.Maraposa I am not surprised that you do not wish to speak about this since it is not about Ms motley and maybe you have not receive your brief from George Street as to how to respond ,as I know you cannot speak for yourself,poor soul.To me it seems like one man has all you Dems frightened to speak openly ,bunch of cowards ,what says you T inniss,Tick tock Fractured,or are you also afraid like Maraposa to speak?


  35. The reality yet again is the denial of the DLP party surrogates mean that they are not showing the public they are willing to align to the concerns of the general public. The party has lost touch with the people as the general election showed.

    It is only an idiot who does not know that 80% of the sewage is being pumped to the injection wells and the spills over to the swamp. There is no perfect solution while the live sewage lines are being fixed to clear the blockage. The rub is that sewage was dumped in the swamp under both governments because there is no bypass built as a contingency.


  36. No sewage should be dumped in the swamp the swamp has to filter toxins from other sources so why make it all but impossible for the swamp to be overloaded with additional man mad sewer which eventually would kill the swamp
    Only an idiot without a sense and knoweldge of the purpose of the swamp would think it is acceptable to dump sewer into the swamp which can accumulate to deadly toxins and filtered into the air


  37. It is only an idiot who does not know that 80% of the sewage is being pumped to the injection wells and the spills over to the swamp. There is no perfect solution while the live sewage lines are being fixed to clear the blockage. The rub is that sewage was dumped in the swamp under both governments because there is no bypass built as a contingency.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


  38. Where you got the 80% from?


  39. The job of the swamp is to protect all living species from deadly toxins before they can be filtered into the air but it can only do so much through it filtering system known as it lungs but when the lungs get filled to capacity the remain toxins which cannot be handled becomes air borne or is disposed by way of other sources mostly soil which interacts with our drinking water system which gets into the foods that we eat
    Disrespect for the swamp has been an ongoing norm for years in barbados but in long term barbadians would reap what was sown in the swamp and it would not be good
    Also added is the high possibility of the death of the swamp then what
    Govt idea to release the sewage from the swamp might be (well)intended but what govt cannot stop are the numerous toxins which would be released into the atmosphere during the draining cycle


  40. 100% of the effluent from the sewage plant ends up in the swamp!!

    Any half an idiot with access to the 1946 Senn Report would know that!!

    There is a connection through the limestone to the swamp.

    The same paths the depression springs at Amity Lodge bubbled up from underground when GP was a boy and before remain.

    The “bypass” has been for over a decade the swamp!!!

    I believe that what has happened is that there is a realization that injection wells or no injection wells, the effluent all ends up in the swamp!!

    I have watched the levels on the guage in the channel.

    It was at ~0.77 metres above sea level (0 metres) yesterday.

    Ideally, I believe it should rise and fall with the tide.

    https://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Bridgetown-Barbados/tides/latest

    I have seen it do so over time BUT, it is not instantaneous.

    This suggests to me that there may be a need for dredging!!

    Alternatively, they could drain the swamp then choose the lowest tide and block the channel let the tide force its way back in underground through the limestone.

    A Spring Tide will occur in a few days.

    “Next high Spring Tide at Bridgetown, Barbados will be on Thu 12 Jul (height:0.90m 3.0ft).”

    If that coincides with heavy rains, there will probably be flooding, whether the gate is open or not.


  41. I suspect the millions spent on the wells was a waste.


  42. Toxins like DDT, even though it was banned way back were found in the swamp when the water was tested in 2010.

    You will find a whole list if you look at the GHNS report.

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2016/12/08/graeme-hall-nature-sanctuary-assessment-report-and-the-south-coast-sewage-plant-connection/

    DDT has a long half life and remains in the environment for years.

    It didn’t come from sewage!!

    What will are the various cleaning chemicals used in the households and hotels connected to the system.


  43. Lorenzo. Do not bother me about George St. I have never visited George St or in any way communicated with any one who is associated with George St
    The dlp lost is not the end of the world .
    However it is appearing that the blp win might bring an end to bajans pocket books as the ongoing cry since May 24th is Murdah
    Question..How can a blp govt sleep at night after 10years of promising better then in less than three weeks delivered BITTER
    Now go help Mia drain the political swamp she is creating at taxpayers expense as a payback for her 30-0 win she can start with chopsuey Jong and wolf in sheep clothing Commisong


  44. At least Liesalot is now sticking to what he is good at, staying in his place in the swamp, instead of using the blog to be divisive and working at destroying any unity between Caribbean people he believes they are building….

    good job..keep the exyardfowl there with you..


  45. @John

    You need to visit GIS Facebook and follow the interviews from the BWA personnel. The plan is for the injection wells to hold 80% of the redirect and any spillover go to the swamp. Before the wells it was all going to the swamp UNDER the DLP. We have this idiot braying about concern for the the swamp when the plan being executed today is the continuation of what the DLP approved.

    The injection wells it was explained were sunk in strategic locations to avoid contaminating water catchment areas? Also is there not a natural process that takes place when the sewage is dumped in a well?

    To fix the blockages in the live sewage lines and remove the ressure on the Bridgetown plant what would you have suggested to stop the sewage spill on the streets?


  46. The injection wells it was explained were sunk in strategic locations to avoid contaminating water catchment areas

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Do you understand what a water catchment area is?

    Google and you will see, “A catchment is an area where water is collected by the natural landscape. In a catchment, all rain and surface water eventually flows to a creek, river, lake or ocean, or into the groundwater system. … Healthy catchments provide: a source of clean drinking water.”

    The swamp is like a creek.

    The catchment area for the swamp is the 1,156 acres to its north, all the way up to Fort George.

    It stands to reason that as the water flows down to the sea, some collects in the wetlands, …… as in the Graeme Hall area.

    Gravity!!

    If you look at Senn, you will see there were DRINKING WATER WELLS in the catchment.

    Amity Lodge No.1 (yard), depth, 33 feet, 2 feet of water in the bottom
    Amity Lodge No.2 (cliff), depth 58 feet, 2 feet of water in the bottom

    Graeme Hall, depth 91.5 feet, 2.5 feet of water in the bottom.

    These wells extended down into the sheet water … which incidentally, was sea level.

    Graeme Hall uses its well(s) for irrigation now but when the catchment was unhealthy, prior to the development, these wells were the source of water for many in the area.


  47. To fix the blockages in the live sewage lines and remove the ressure on the Bridgetown plant what would you have suggested to stop the sewage spill on the streets?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I would have done it right the first time and there would be none of these issues!!


  48. You still have not answered the question. There was an error in building contingency into the design, we get that. How would you have managed the solution to fix it for the second time?


  49. @John

    Simply giving you the explanations from the BWA engineers.


  50. All of the above comments remind me of contributions made by mark Adamsonng, boring, unfocused, partisan and napoleonic…let me make it clear..the last administration lost mostly because they are perceived as corrupt..social media had a heavy hand in this….secondly, EWB

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