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Fruendel Stuart (l) Denis Lowe (r) – the buck stops with Prime Minister Stuart.

 

And there shall arise after them seven years of famine; and all the plenty shall be forgotten in the land of Egypt; and the famine shall consume the land King James Bible

For 7 years plus the Barbados economy has been contracting. The country has been running a deficit on current account. We have had to significantly reduce capex. And this is despite raking in unprecedented levels of revenue if the reporting from the relevant government agencies are accepted. There is a resignation by Barbadians to the fact those charged with managing the economy seem are unable to do so. The discussions everywhere is whether this is due to incompetence or other reasons.

If we are to buyin to the government’s mantra that we should strive to build a society not an economy, ‘recent’ developments in the country have served to challenge this objective.  As if carrying the weight of an nonperforming economy on their backs like the proverbial albatross has not been the greatest burden- there is the evidence daily of the country’s infrastructure crumbling before our eyes. The sick South Coast Sewage Plant has occupied the newsfeeds on the domestic and international front in recent months. The prime minister FINALLY addressed the issue frontally by informing the country this week a request has been submitted to the IADB and experts to assist Barbados in addressing the problem. Bear in mind the leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley had informed the prime minister this was a problem waiting to happen two years ago. Like how most issues are dealt with in Barbados the politically expedient decision was taken, she was ignored.

Can you imagine this is the government that was this close to foisting a gasification plant on an island nation the size of which had never been built anywhere on planet earth?

After 7 years plus of economic famine, 2 plus years of a leaky sewage plant on the South Coast- today the local US Embassy slap Barbados with an advisory.

Event: Recent tests at several U.S. Embassy residences revealed bacteria at elevated levels in the tap water.  As a precautionary measure, the U.S. Embassy recommended to its staff to boil their drinking water or use bottled water.  The U.S. Embassy will continue to monitor the situation and will provide updates accordingly.

Actions to Take:

Assistance:

We are a few weeks from a general election being called, clearly decision making by the government will be steeped in political consideration and antithetical to what is in the national interest. Even if the government by some miracle is able to fix the problem in the weeks before the general election there is the memory of a fatigue public to factor and anticipating how they will respond on election day.

The BU household cannot wait for election day to arrive!


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194 responses to “Barbadians Suffering from Fatigue with a Capital F”

  1. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David Mr Blogmaster, @Northern and @Wily are you guys saying that Bajans were waiting for the US embassy to tell them to boil drinking water!

    Why exactly would friendly nation one have to alert friendly nation two of the country which has a very public sewerage issue ongoing for three years plus that they will recommend that water be cleaned prior to consumption with 212 deg of heat.

    Dont thrust the ever present geopolitical gamesmanship on such a simple health matter.

    And Wily I think you have the wrong country… It was in Cuba that US embassy officials were experiencing health issues prior to testing which led them to be “untrusting” of their host country!😁

    Sensible Bajans have been boiling water and using bottled water (how sad) for months now…at least many I know….

    The question of WHY the embassy finally issued this advisory is rather clear. … Dr Sealy and others in public remarks have indicated that the sewerage system has NOT been working and thus not filtering the harmful bacteria for over 1,095 days….THREE years. Drip, drip, drip by the gallons daily of pure shiiittee out to sea and now in the streets .

    Yet, we are perturbed by an embassy advisory on day number 1,500 or whatever ….and then we are going to listen to an obsequious civil servant prattle that the embassy testing is misleading..

    All thd Bajan Health officials have misled… let’s kick the Americans when they deserve it..but here we need to direct our feet in the other direction.


  2. AC

    Your government is dead!

    Has been so dead for 4 years


  3. And its stinking corpse is polluting the nasal passages of us all


  4. Talking Loud Saying Nothing January 27, 2018 at 8:25 AM #

    Why do the majority of our politicians and “professionals” struggle to communicate verbally using standard English? Their words are – mostly – incomprehensible and would explain why Barbados is in such a mess.(Quote)

    Just read BU, where the majority of contributors are mature men and women, many of them ‘educated’ and you have the answer. After 11 compulsory years in school this is what we get. Is it not a good idea to pay secondary school teachers by results?

  5. Theophilius Gazerts 259 Avatar
    Theophilius Gazerts 259

    “With respect to Barbados, a lot of the costing has been done. There are a lot of intangible costs we have not even put into the costing. But we see that this will easily be between at least $10 and $20 million at the start to at least return this operation to some semblance of normalcy,” Halliday said during a press conference at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs…”

    What a clever use of words. Can you tell me the cost of repairs? 10-20 M? No! No!..

    Did you see the qualifier “at least” and then the second qualifier “at the start” and then the third one “some semblance of normalcy”….

    A man with a monstrous schlong saying “let me put the head in”. Open your ‘wallet’

    Brilliance

  6. Theophilius Gazerts 259 Avatar
    Theophilius Gazerts 259

    wanted to put legs, but my fellow Bajans would have been outraged
    Some things bother us..


  7. Tom Adams was an outstanding orator.He was at his devastating best when before a TV camera.It was a lot to do with his professional BBC training.Public speaking requires training especially when you duties require use of that medium to get your message across.

  8. Theophilius Gazerts 259 Avatar
    Theophilius Gazerts 259

    Better hope they get this solved before elections (de teefing would be limited)..After elections, these guys would use the blank cheque mentioned above.


  9. About this 10 to 20 million it is estimated to take to stop the leaking of sewage water on the roads of Barbados AND the sea. The general manager of the BWA should make it public the breakdown because it would inform what are the problems. There was a CCTV scan of the lines last week has the flu ndingd been make public? The general manager advised yesterday that there is another breach in the inlet line, how did it occur and should it not have been detected in routine monitoring of the lines? When there was a breach in the line in 2005 why have successive governments not moved quickly to upgrade the plant with an auxiliary line to rest the main line and facilitate for backup?


  10. I seem to recall being told at school that if you can smell something, it is because there are particles of said odour emitting substance in the air. Can some qualified BU sage confirm whether this is so? Because if it is indeed a fact, surely all this ‘we are quite safe from disease’ is worse than just BS.


  11. Breach after breach would continue cant expect a pit toilet to do the job of well planned commercially designed sewer system.
    The flaws of the pit toilet are numerous and the pit toilet needs to be dug up.
    Thanks to the big guts politicians of the day.internal as well as external problems of the pit toilet are overwhelming
    Finding a long term solution to correct these problems are all but nonexistent.
    The money already put into fix would be flushed right back i to the manholes

  12. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Hal, you must give us examples of the most incomprehensible BU scribes.

    The fact the a person may tend towards obscure literary references (like @Miller) or even more obscure neologisms (like Mr BBE) or even high falulting vocab (the law Dean) does not mean they are not understood.

    I would flip the argument and suggest that we indeed measure our teachers on results … of demanding the students pay attention to the entire idea/concept.

    Of course some people deliberately misspeak in order to cloud the issue as the BWA official above does. His words are quite clearly and deliberately made to obscure, yet the idea is crystal clear.

    When there is a lack of clarity the fault lies most often with the one making the interpretations… not the one making the utterances.

    And @Gabriel, so too was Eric Sealy an outstanding orator. He went no where near a BBC studio for training. That has been overplayed re Tom in my view.

    The man Tom was awesome for all the reasons that make ALL great speakers: great diction, lovely cadence, excellent choice of words and the wonderful turn of phrase to be humorous, serious, intellectual or even insulting and crass to suit his audience.

    Long may they live in our memory and in the annals of Bajan speechifying, men like him, Sealy, Don Bkackman, Tank Williams, Charlie Pilgrim and women like Mia, Dame Nita, Dame Elsie, Dorian Pile et al…..The list of excellent Bajan speakers is long.


  13. de pedantic Dribbler January 27, 2018 at 10:09 AM #

    @Hal, you must give us examples of the most incomprehensible BU scribes.(Quote)

    There is a temptation.


  14. The question returns, the one establishment identified by the Chief medical Officer as being responsible for about 30 gastro cases should be made public? It means the eateries on the South Coast will continue to be damaged by a blanket perception.


  15. @David January 27, 2018 at 10:18 AM #

    Meet me at TAPAS on the south coast for lunch and I’ll fill you in as to who the offending gastro establishment in question is.

  16. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Hal Austin January 27, 2018 at 9:13 AM #
    “Talking Loud Saying Nothing January 27, 2018 at 8:25 AM #
    Why do the majority of our politicians and “professionals” struggle to communicate verbally using standard English? Their words are – mostly – incomprehensible and would explain why Barbados is in such a mess.(Quote)
    Just read BU, where the majority of contributors are mature men and women, many of them ‘educated’ and you have the answer. After 11 compulsory years in school this is what we get. Is it not a good idea to pay secondary school teachers by results?”

    Those weaknesses in the Bajan education system which you identified as ‘clearly’ as crystal are precisely the reason why you need to get your lazy armchair-critic arse out of cold England to give back to your native land what you took at the basic education level.
    We are sure your parents, although well off in the shop-keeping business like Margaret Thatcher’s, did not pay for your ‘free’ basic education at St. Giles Boys’ or even for your ‘entire’ secondary ‘learning’ at Cawmere where you learned to read and write ‘standard English’.

    So, Sir Hal, your payback (noblesse oblige) is way, way overdue.

    Time to stop criticising and start walking the walk.
    Get on that VS 29 with a one way ticket and show the local semi-literate ignoramuses how to speak and write standard (proper) English.

    Your ‘chattel home’ in the Ivy is still there awaiting your return; sweater with business suit and all.

    We are sure you get the gist of the above request. It has been demanded of you, ad nauseam.

  17. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Wily Coyote January 27, 2018 at 10:49 AM

    So why would you want to take David to the same establishment where top officials from the BWA, MoH and the tourism agencies met to show Bajans all was well and the leaking sewage was innocuous (harmless) to those who want to partake in fine dining and dancing on the south Coast?

    What has transpired since then other that an exponential growth in the level of harmful bacteria which might soon create the perfect soup for an outbreak of cholera?

    Here goes Barbadoes, back to the shitty public sanitation conditions of the 1850’s thanks to a gang of shit-filled lowlife low-class thieving black slaves pretending to be modern-day Massas.

  18. Theophilius Gazerts 259 Avatar
    Theophilius Gazerts 259

    Miller, what are you saying?
    David should pass up a free meal at a fine restaurant on the south coast?
    Wily, let David drink all he wants… The drinks are on me
    🙂 Silly me.

  19. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac January 27, 2018 at 8:07 AM
    “……which makes my mind focus on Barrack and Alexander which has cost taxpayers billions in dollars dollars which could have been placed in reducing fiscal debt
    Cant help but reiterate What a bunch of lost souls Yes OSA you said it absolutely right..”

    You bleeding cloth of an idiot! You need to get your bumbaklat ‘facts and timelines’ in order.

    It was under OSA that the same pit toilet was built. So too was the Barrack and Alexander fiasco and not to forget your favourite whipping boy the Greenland unused dump $700 million (according to your new lover Fractured’s moving target valuation).

    OSA soul has already been found and taken by the devil. So it cannot be lost again. For hypocrisy is the passport to the devil’s island.

    How can OSA say in one breath to blame him (OSA) for everything which took place under his primus inter pares watch but now wants to turn around and blame others for his Cabinet’s mistakes?

    The pit toilet was his baby so he cannot throw it out with the sewage water.
    So too were all the other projects which required the final blessings (approval and funding) from both the minister of finance and the person who held the position of PM to which all roads eventually lead.
    And you ac, the DLP mouth and anus all in the same person knows full well which of those two positions the ‘soulful’ OSA held.

  20. Bernard Codrington Avatar
    Bernard Codrington

    @ dpD at 10 : 09 AM

    Well written. In your real manifestation you must be a teacher. I, myself ,wondered what metric would be used to pay teachers by results. Is the pupil a passive piece of inert material?

    I would like to add that the late Tom Adams was a voracious reader of both fiction and nonfiction.

  21. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ de pedantic Dribbler January 27, 2018 at 10:09 AM

    Poor Hal, he just can’t tell the ‘crystal clear difference’ between innuendo, gobbledygook, redundancy, sarcasm, satire and syllogism deliberately used as writing techniques to obfuscate and discombobulate in order to make an ass out of the law of Defamation.

    But then, he was never an avid reader of high-end ‘Literature’ whether English, French Spanish or even Latin, the dead mother of them all.

    The ‘fact’ that he finds Cervantes Man of La Mancha maddeningly boring
    says a lot about not only his shallow repertoire of literature but also reflects on his poor taste as a cognoscenti and his limited vista as a so-called journalist.


  22. This DLP has to take all the blame for this mess. For pete’s sake, they are the government.

    Is not managing the country its responsibility? Oh I forgot, nothing is dem fault.

    I am so sick of the two jackasses (or are they one and the same) on BU blaming everybody for their incompetence. Nothing is dem fault.

    David Ellis for all his claim to be a superior journalist for some reason allows certain people to let nonsense go out on the airwaves……….yes the BLP built it……..the arse ac does not understand that governance is a continuance.

    I am no engineer but my gut feeling is that this sewage system with all its flaws and LACK of maintainence by this government (after all there was no money to be made off an old sewage system) allowed Sandals into Barbados, gave it all the concessions in the world. The burden that Sandals has put on this system has overwelmed the system.

    Sandals got the sweets and we got the shit.

    Therein lies the problem, Sandals has expanded its hotel and as there was no maintenance or expansion of a system built years ago, the shit had to hit the fan.

    Not a government official would admit to this. Fix the problem, dems, and stop the bellyaching.

    But it clearly seems that you dont know how to but still clinging on to government. Idiots!


  23. The blp operatives contends that the pit toilet was seeping shit for three years. However no one in the three years has been known to have become sick because of bacteria attained from the underground pipes which would have leaked into the water sydtem
    Some how ac finds it strange that in the years past by which nothing feasable was found to contain the problem of leakage.
    How come all of a sudden that the powers of foreign interst has become so very concerned when in the past more of the same shit was seeping from the pit toilet and these foreign operatives said nothing
    The mischief that surrounds this problem now has been filtered across the social media lends itself to RH anti govt operatives who for the better of eight years only interst was seeing this tiny island collapse.

  24. Dr. Simple Simon Avatar
    Dr. Simple Simon

    @David January 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM “Agree with you NO, two countries with cordial diplomatic relations one would expect a diplomatic note to be dispatched about such a weighted issue.”

    So who says that a diplomatic note was not previously dispatched? And how is a diplomatic note supposed to protect Americans who live or visit here? Diplomatic notes are sent between governments. The general public does not get to see diplomatic notes. So if the American government did not inform its citizens of its findings who then would inform American citizens? (The Barbados government? LOL!!) We all know that America has plenty, plenty of lawyers many of whom love to sue. if an American became sick, or died and later it was found that the American government had information about bacteria in our water which it failed to share with its citizens, we all know that the American would sue his own government.

    If I invited you to dinner at my home at 8 p.m. and i know that there was a big ball of dog $hit on my front step would you not expect me to either clean the $hit up, or at the very least warn you that it is there before you step in the mess with with your very best shoes?

    But then we Bajans is some funny birds. A friend of mine was invited at the home of an (aspirational) “big shot”. The family dog had died some days earlier, and the family a bunch of poor great poppets were too great to bury their own dead dog and foolish? enough to invite people to dinner never the less. Of course no screens on the windows or doors, and flies all around. The friend never again accepted an invitation. These people were HC/QC people.

    Some of we Bajans are very nasty people. And the “higher” we rise? in the echelons the nastier we become. And often we are too cheap to pay other people to do the nasty tasks we are too “great” to do ourselves.

    The Americans are RIGHT to look out for their own people.

  25. Dr. Simple Simon Avatar
    Dr. Simple Simon

    Dear David: Who are the 2 guys in red capes? They are not Superman and his Deputy, right?

  26. Dr. Simple Simon Avatar
    Dr. Simple Simon

    @Fractured BLP January 26, 2018 at 12:01 AM “Where is Flint Michigan,USA?”

    So because Fling, Michigan phucked up, does that give the BWA license to phuck up also?

    Idiot. (sorry David)

    Didn’t your grandmother, like mine not tell you 2 wrongs don’t make a right?

  27. Dr. Simple Simon Avatar
    Dr. Simple Simon

    I sorry for the people in Flint, and I sorry for the people on the south coast. Both people caused to suffer because of the negligence of officials.

  28. Dr. Simple Simon Avatar
    Dr. Simple Simon

    @ac January 26, 2018 at 12:49 AM “wanting to see Barbados completly fall off the fiscal cliff all in the name of politics.”

    NOBODY wants Barbados to fall off a cliff.

    All we want is that when you put out cup under the tap in order to make some lemonade for our grandchildren, we want the assurance that that water is clean and safe for a 3 year old.

    And it would help if the government would publish their data.

    No point beating up on the Americans when our own government won’t publish their data.

  29. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    “if an American became sick, or died and later it was found that the American government had information about bacteria in our water which it failed to share with its citizens, we all know that the American would sue his own government.”

    All the embassy needs to do now is give up the name of the bacteria….to its citizens.


  30. Why would govt put people lives in danger by stating a lie which would in the end be detrimental to govt and citizens.
    Doesnt govt officials live in barbados and have to acess the same water system daily for household purposes
    One cannot help to believe that an underground system of mischievous action is now being filtered into this issue via anti govt contacts to cause chaos among the populace

  31. Dr. Simple Simon Avatar
    Dr. Simple Simon

    @Peter Holder January 26, 2018 at 6:43 AM “The PM has done just that, he has called in the IDB. We should a resolution sometime by 2020/2021.”

    Is it possible that if the IDB had been called in 2 years ago we would have had a solution by now, 2018?

    So why the delay?


  32. AC you J/A you realise how stupid you sound,instead of calling on the Government to hurry up and fix the sewerage problem,you on here talking about who built it.The question for you is who fail to maintain it the BLP?The US,Canada and Uk do not care who built they are concerned health wise for their Nationals and have taken action,not like this Government pussy footing around for two years and reportedly placing other matters like 7 million for independence celebrations ,David Thompson Football tournament etc and no money for the Treatment plant,and now as usual wait till things reach crisis proportions to start acting.AC this is where leadership comes in and we here in my view have failed badly,and we are dealing with the big boys now,therefore games timeis over.

  33. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac January 27, 2018 at 1:58 PM #
    “Why would govt put people lives in danger by stating a lie which would in the end be detrimental to govt and citizens.”

    Wasn’t your party planning to do that very thing by entering into the Cahill agreement which have turned little Barbados into a veritable nuclear plant burning from bloody johnnies like you to imported mosquito-laden tyres to the derelict vehicles parked in the MTW depot graveyard?

  34. Dr. Simple Simon Avatar
    Dr. Simple Simon

    @Sargeant January 26, 2018 at 2:19 PM “I am assuming that US personnel reading the local tea leaves saw how inept the BWA is in dealing with the sewage issue and decided to have the drinking water tested at their various households.”

    I expect that the U.S. Embassy routinely tests water samples at all of their Embassies worldwide.


  35. Yes the govt had made a promise to build an effective energy WTE plant which because of mitigating circumstances attributed to a similar project in the Uk.lead to govt abandoning the project
    Maybe if and when the pit toilet was being a proposal to be built …theloud blast that is being heard from the blp operatives and leadership should have been sounded with an effective approach to abandon the put toilet.
    The shit that has impacted the island would not be happening
    Talking mainteance the blp operatives all now in all out effort to cover up the poor judgement of the blp failed project called a pit toilet


  36. Lorenzo could not careless what u think of me
    The fact thst you blp operatives are so insistent on placing blame gives a rise to pause and think of how this project design and capacity was allowed to go foward as solution for the sewage problems in the worthng area on swamp land which now has shown that the results are not compatible to capacity and volume


  37. At the head table yesterday we had minister of foreign affairs Maxine McClean and minister of Health John Boyce, general manager Halliday made up the team. Where the RH was David Estwick?


  38. ac would bet last dollar that these sudden alerts by the Embassies can be part and parcel directed and dictated by certain govt officals used as a timely opportunity to garnish public support in the upcoming election.
    The obvious is so apparant given that in the last three byestd and up to present no individual or group has been identified as having been sick or contaminated .
    One can also include those who are employed to monitor the plant and most likely would have been sick or contamined in one form or another

  39. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    ac Yardfowl…what is the name of the bacteria that yall hiding and keeping secret?

  40. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac January 27, 2018 at 4:02 PM #
    “ac would bet last dollar that these sudden alerts by the Embassies can be part and parcel directed and dictated by certain govt officals used as a timely opportunity to garnish public support in the upcoming election.”

    Ac, you are simply the strangest when it comes to figuring out if you are both foul and fishy.

    Now pray tell us who are these ‘government officials’ planning to overthrow your dear loving pious administration?

    Are you referring to the Minister responsible for Water Resources and Sewage Management?

    He is the ‘loudly’ obvious silent one in this long-running battle between the muzzled Pitbull Estwick and Stinkliar the decimalized controller of the country’s purse strings with the supreme idiot- the fumbling fool in the dark room of ignorance of all things financial- looking on to see the black cat chasing a million sewer rats.

    Why don’t you ask yourself the simple commonsense question where is the Minister (or even the Chairman) responsible Sewage in this cesspool of international embarrassment with massively serious implications for the economic future of your small one-industry island?

    Isn’t this obvious dereliction of responsibility to taxpayers a gross indication that all is not well in the Cabinet and hence your chances of fooling the electorate with bombast and ‘pit-bullshittery’ are next to the odds of you becoming a paling cock for Mia’s BLP?

  41. Theophilius Gazerts 259 Avatar
    Theophilius Gazerts 259

    ac, I am looking for a little pick…
    Give my name to the man with the scratch grain

  42. Talking Loud Saying Nothing Avatar
    Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    “BHTA concerned about possible impact of U.S. health advisory”

    Oh dear! You read some stories and all one can do is shake one’s head from side to side. There are too many delusional souls who reside on the island who are in a position of power, yet are brain dead. Step forward Roseanne Myers.

    What a miserable and a pitiful people we have become. Lacking in pride and having no dignity. The only thing that excites us is chasing the dollar. Where is the vision?

    Thank God for David Comissiong.

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2018/01/27/bhta-concerned-about-possible-impact-of-u-s-health-advisory/


  43. ac…..

    It’s about time you realize you’re having an extremely difficult time trying to convince BU that the DLP is not responsible for conceptualizing and applying to the IADB for the funds to build what you call the “pit toilet.”


  44. Look negro dont come here this blessed Sunday morning again flying the IADB loan or funding for the pit toilet which was part of the final process a process necessary by which the brain child (pit toilet } of the BLP would have been built


  45. I hope the A in iadb is African because after you thumbed your nose at the yanks over Jerusalem, you think it is a coincidence they they have put out a water and travel advisory lol. you play with the bull you get the horns.
    All hope is not lost …you will go hat in hand …and after some hoop jumping… as the democrats say a few crumbs may fall off the table


  46. @millertheanunnaki January 27, 2018 at 11:12 AM #

    Did you here that Barbados had a GASTRO outbreak in Dec. 2017. David was asking why the Ministry of Health had not informed Bajans of the source. I was offering to by DAVID lunch at/nearby the source of the outbreak. Some Barbadians find it “HARD TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES”. No doubt these same Bajans are the reason the country is finding itself so much financial, sanitation, failing economy etc. issues.


  47. Yuh shameless, deceitful hypocritical yard-fowl liar…..

    …………”part of the final process,” shiite… yuh lie…… um is a pity dat you duz write summuch shiite and suh bloody foolish

    Don’t care how many time you come to this forum with your “blame game” nonsense……

    ……….the evidence is here in “black and white”…………the DLP is responsible for conceptualizing and applying for an IADB loan to build the pit toilet.

    The DLP satisfied all the qualifying requirements to facilitate approval of the loan, including the EIA for the proposed site of the plant.

    Read and weep!

    https://idblegacy.iadb.org/en/projects/project-description-title,1303.html?id=BA0036&page=15

    https://www.iadb.org/en/project/ba0036

    And I gine keep reminding yuh……

  48. Dr. Simple Simon Avatar

    @lawson January 28, 2018 at 9:15 AM “I hope the A in iadb is African because after you thumbed your nose at the yanks over Jerusalem.”

    Bur lawson Jerusalem is NOT the capital of Israel. Israel has a perfectly good capital in Tel Aviv.

    Jerusalem is a disputed capital.

    There is some outstanding business between the Israelis and the Palestinians which MUST be settled first.


  49. @ Mock Doc Simple…
    Jerusalem is a disputed capital.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    …you clearly don’t understand how albino centrics think…. Who has the biggest guns…?
    You need to read our John more carefully….
    Never mind smart aleck Lawson…..

  50. Dr. Simple Simon Avatar

    @Bush Tea January 28, 2018 at 10:26 PM “Who has the biggest guns?

    I dunno.

    The Chinese, maybe?

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