Submitted by Bobby Clarke, Vice President, Clement Payne Movement
Caricom

The Clement Payne Movement call upon the Caricom Secretariat to call a meeting of the Caribbean Heads of Government to impress upon Donald Trump, President of the United States of America and to Kim Jong Un, the Democratic Republic of North Korea President, to settle their differences by means of mediation.

The erratic statements by President Donald Trump, which if put into practice will cause the most devastation the world will ever know. Because of the borders of the Democratic Republic of North Korea and China, any error by America’s bombing of the Democratic Republic of North Korea could by error, cause collateral damage to the Republic of China

This will then put the two major countries of the world in confrontation with each and bring about annihilation not only of the United States and to the Chinese Republic but of all of Eastern Asia and North America among others.

The Caribbean Heads of Government need to make a serious approach to the United States of America and the United Nations Security Council to stop any further advancement by the US, the most powerful nuclear power in the world, from starting this war; either by action or a response to the Democratic Republic of North Korea infantile action.

175 responses to “Caribbean Governments Asked to Approach UN Security Council to Stave Off War Between US and North Korea”


  1. The Clement Payne Movement should send Bobby back to school for remedial English classes instead of wasting time spitting into the wind.

    The Donald certainly has no time for small fry from tiny islands in the Third World. In any case, the US does not have to back down, so the other side will have to eat humble pie or suffer the consequences.

    In any nuclear exchange, the US can go it alone but doesn’t have to. It wiil get plenty of help from the UK, with Australia, Canada, Japan and South Korea pitching in as well. North Korea and China would be toast.

    Bring it on. We’re locked and loaded!

  2. Hamilton A Hill Avatar

    @ Chad99999…you are just as irresponsible as Donald Trump. Do you have any understanding of the damage nuclear armaments are capable of? If the NSRL is causing havoc imagine the ripple effects and fall out from such a war. One set of tough as nails UN sanctions on Monday. As expected his support base wax poetic. By Tuesday jackass Trump issuing threads to another jackass. The Caricom Secretariat is not needed here, for the world will not sit idly by and permit it’s destruction by these two.In any event that body has little clout in its own domain. Toothless tigers have no place in the jungle of world affairs. Rein in T&T. That’s a good place to start.

  3. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    trump the orange fraud is just trying to distract and divert attention from the years of prison and impeachment that is approaching him.

    Like many are saying on facebook, he cant read too well, so it’s just a matter of giving him the wrong instructions for the nuclear codes. ..he’s too dumb to know the difference.

    The US generals know they do not want a war with China, despite trumps idiot brother in NK Kim Fat Un being equally provocative.

    Chadster…you are so dumb, why do only dumb people support trump.

    The US will be on it’s own, no sensible people, leaders or anyone with a modicum of sanity, commonsense and intelligence will support trump….just for the sake of starting a nuclear war which will blowback on them…in a very bigly way.

    trump supporters are a special type of stupid.

  4. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    And as is usual in US…there are choices, there are always options for citizens.

    The people are fed up, time to rid the place of this toxic idiot, his loser family and the whole administration.

    there are multiple investigations against him, plus they have started preparing articles of impeachment, plus there are those now talking about 11/8 nullification..and he is very likely to be charged wuth treason…as he so deserves..

    “The Nullification Crisis was a United States sectional political crisis in 1832–1837, during the presidency of Andrew Jackson, which involved a confrontation between South Carolina and the federal government.”


  5. WW&C

    Hope you noticed that Trump’s approval ratings have been rising since the war drums started beating.

    The American people have started to rally around the President. And the military will not disobey the orders of the Commander-in-Chief

    The lives of all you lefties may soon be in Trump’s hands.


  6. Well, it depends on what the Caribbean is, is to be

    Certainly there is no preoccupation in the eastern Caribbean for these existential issues

    Most Caribbean people are too interested in daily survival

    With the possible exception of Cuba and an not distracted Venezuela all we have is no head and all guts

    The economic and educated elites either just try to make more money or lack the courage to engage such

    Our world is going to Hell in a hand basket, on all fronts, and we could yet be excited by tribal politics, who’s B or D or SB.

    Did we hear a bushman saying brassbowls?

  7. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Speak for thyself Chadster…my life is in only one person’s hands and it’s not the orange retard.

    Lp,,,besides.,,, trump Is a known coward, watch how quickly he will back down and give everyone on facebook something to laugh about, create endless memes and mock him for weeks on end just for the entertainment value.

    The last time he talked big, the mexican druglords promised to cut off his head….he never said another word about them since then….,neither good nor bad…lol


  8. @Chad it is shockingly amazing, sad and very depressing that any sane person would highlight some inconsequential rising poll value to give credence to a US president ‘saber rattling’ possible nuclear Armageddon.

    So I will add insanity to your other label of provocateur horribilus. Lol.

    BTW, Bush 41 had sky high polls during n after his mid east spanking of Saddam’s oil overreach… he ignobably was kicked out of office at the next elections as u recall…. (and then there was Curchill) different time, different man fah sure but war polls are particularly meaningless.

    But what is more important tho is Trump’s bluster of military action in Venezuela…and the silence of the Clement Payne group et al with nary a word on the peaceful but damping coup by Maduro.

    That is where BS action could start a ball rolling that could also bring about world ‘destruction’.

    I’m sure we all can figure out how THAT threat could unravel a whole lot of life … world life … if actually carried out

    This man is out of his depth but he thinks he is so absolutely smart and can handle these issues as he did back in his office on Fifth Ave… lock and loaded, indeed…

    … Loaded to a paddy wagon n locked away he should be!


  9. Mr Blogmaster oh MG….your like button is too freaking sensitive to just a scroll touch!

  10. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    Bring it on. We’re locked and loaded!

    Mr Chad, you know, of course, that this is nuclear war you are talking about and not the cowboy and crook we all played as youngsters? What locked and loaded what?


  11. |I have been warning the forum about Chad, who I believe to be a fantasist, now his addiction to fantasy has taken him on to the brink of supporting nuclear war. God bless those who passed their A levels at age 15, have five qualifications, including a PhD and work for a major US corporation.

  12. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lol…..Chadster is being his usual idiot self…do not listen to Chadster, people are being warned to stop listening to the lies from the idiot trump, he is trying to distract from his upcoming misery.

    A nuclear war will not happen because trump said so.

    the Pentagon has this under control.

    “The Department of Defense issued a statement to CNN Pentagon Reporter Barbara Starr refuting President Donald Trump’s press conference Friday night.

    “I’m not going to rule out a military option” for Venezuela, Trump explained in a short press conference in New Jersey. “Venezuela is not very far away.”

    The internet immediately lit up with a kind of “fury” of its own, but the Defense Department was quick to refute the claim that the United States was randomly readying for war against the South American country.”

    Hal….look at the evil that still exists in the UK…perpetrated by whites of course, just like their ancestors did.

    “Lincolnshire slavery gang forced man to dig his own grave in ‘truly shocking’ 26-year hard labour ordeal.”

  13. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    It’s just a matter of time before executive power is snatched away from the orange retard.


  14. North Korea has been using threatening rhetoric for years. What’s changed is now the US president is, too.
    ‘Trying to out-threaten North Korea is like trying to outpray the Pope. This works for them.’
    Stand-off less likely to spark conflict than bellicose rhetoric suggests, say experts
    ft.com
    http://on.ft.com/2vNhyXZ


  15. What has changed is that N Korea’s nuclear program is progressing nicely.


  16. VH

    is just like the mealy-mouthed liberals of New York and San Francisco. He always wants to believe America is about to lose a fight.

    How do Trump’s threats work for North Korea? Do you realize Trump can cause Kim Jr to lose face with his own military?

    The US never has to back down. Besides, it’s about time to learn if Reagan’s expensive anti-missile technologies really work.

    Go Trump.


  17. Chad 9×5

    Chuckle…..why is he doing a Mexico with Kim……blustering all over the place and at the same time begging Kim to stop tossing missiles in the sea because its making him look bad……..those tapes like the Mexican ones will soon be released


  18. @chad99999

    Let us continue with your view. What is the downside to destabilizing that part of the world? What is the implication fo S Korea, Japan and China? How would it influence geopolics in the region? What about the markets given the significant holdings of treasuries and private sector investments by China in the US?


  19. Trump sleeping in as his kin riots in Virginia


  20. Substantively, the issue between North Korea and the USA demonstrates the coming to an end of Anglo-American Empire.

    The stinking British knowing this full well have already made a deal to be bankers to the Chinese. Hence Brexit etc. The Chinese will need tens of trillions of fake paper money for their massive Silk Road projects.

    On one hand we have a country that was not too long ago said to be unable to feed itself and on the other the ‘leading’ world country.

    But America has few levers of power over North Korea and must rely on China, its proximate rival, to do its bidding. This is weakness. And weakness could lead to the use of nuclear weapons.

    But China has its own interests in the Korean Peninsular. Interests which hardly intersect with those of the USA.

    Unfortunately for all of us two of the most arrogant, ignorant, belligerent men to have ever lived find themselves located at the top of the power centres in both countries.

    We would prefer that they challenged each other to a duel, on the White House lawn. Winner takes all. But we are hardly likely to be that lucky.

    More seriously, and we have made this point before, the nuclear powers have since 1967, by treaty, promised to denuclearize, and transfer non-nuclear weapons technology to the rest of the world.

    But there is nobody to hold them to account. And even the efforts of IAEA and other mechanisms have been used by nuclear weapons states to maintain a Damocles’ sword over the necks of the peoples of the world.

    Even the JCPOA agreed to with the Islamic Republic has been brought into question by Trump but Israel, Pakistan and India are allowed to operate outside international law, if there is any such thing. They all have illegal nuclear weapons.

    If Barbados can’t get the powers to surrender these dangerous weapons why would any boy on the street give the authorities his 32 or 45.

    The world can no longer avoid this duplicity – nuclear weapons for some rogue states and none for North Korea. Nuclear weapons states like Israel and the USA threatening non-nuclear weapons states and promising war. India and China on the brink of war which could turn nuclear because of territorial disputes.

    Of course these fundamental issues will never be addressed. Instead illegalities and entrenched lies will rule the day in media.

    In circumstances where the peoples of this world care not about disarming the USA and Russia, we would then support all other world nations having a similarly destructive capability. For us this is better than being constantly threatened and living on one’s knees.

    For we know with certainty that the USA will never attack anyone capable of defending one’s self. That it has used nuclear weapons before and intend to use them again, not only mini-nukes in battlefield conditions, but in large population centres. Destroying the world, if necessary, to maintain power.


  21. I just figured out where Chad is not.
    He’s not in South Korea, Japan, Guam, California or Alaska..
    Probably on a cruise ship in the middle of the Atlantic


  22. @David, is that what it is…a view from Chad…I thought it was more of his hazy, lazy form of mental flautalance….with respect. LOL

    The bro added to his hazy chest thumping war bombast poll bump rhetoric of this morn with more hot air….to wit: “Do you realize Trump can cause Kim Jr to lose face with his own military?”

    In a closed society where news is controlled and power as fleeting as Kim’s latest exercise routine – thus brief – he asserts that Trump’s empty threat (don’t threaten US again or we will rain fury) will cause Kim problems. What a laff line.

    He believes there is substance and meaning to remarks like, I dare you to threaten the US… or should that be …. OK, well I double dare you to threaten Guam again… OK, well triple dare you…

    And oh, let’s see if all these fancy gadgets and those ‘expensive anti-missile technologies really work’ anyhow.

    You are being quite charitable to call that a view .. that’s what children do to strut their prowess…not world leaders!

    But seriously,not until the US starts mobilizing their citizens in South Korea, China starts issuing iodone tablets and/or Japan actively moves to a containment stance does this talk of doom geta freaking real.

    Until then it’s two bullies playing the fool!


  23. We have people on board who will twist themselves into knots to portray Trump as a buffoon.

    David asks about Asian geopolitics and China’s inventory of US Treasuries. As usual, David overestimates China’s standing. The PRC has merely $1T of US securities, less than Japan and only 5% of the total outstanding. Not a problem one way or the other.

    The American strategy of encircling China — with help from Australia, the Philippines, Japan, and South Korea, and with the tacit approval of Vietnam, has been unraveling for some time because of Trump’s trade policy, Duterte’s rebellion, and China’s aggressive navy.

    Nuclear war, however, would wreck the Chinese economy and guarantee American hegemony for another generation. Trump has very little to lose.


  24. Chad99999 you cannot underestimate what a conflict between the world’s two largest can do to both countries. You must factor US interest in China as well.


  25. If anybody thinks that any country can use nuclear weapons and avoid a wider conflagration that person dwells in a fool’s paradise.

    A total lack of understanding about threat assessment, other things.


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    The Hill 13m ago

    One dead and 19 injured as car strikes crowds along route of white nationalist rally in Charlottesville

    Car Plows Into Crowd as Racial Tensions Boil Over in Virginia

    Sheryl Gay Stolberg and Brian M. Rosenthal

    Protests of a plan to remove a statue of a Confederate general led to clashes that left several injured.

  27. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    The blogs are on fire.

    White racist terrorists are on the loose.

    Chadster….again…no one will support trump in the international community re nuckear war, he is a loser, just like his loser supporters.

    Intelligent people do not support losers.

  28. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Chadster look…….drip, drip, drip…lol, lol.

    “The problem for Trump is that there are enough people in enough criminal troubling involving Russia and the 2016 election that the odds of everyone staying 100% quiet to protect the President are slim to none.

    The reason why criminal investigators are closing in on Trump is that people are talking. They aren’t telling everything that they know, but they are giving up enough information to bring investigators closer to the Trumps.

    The steady drip, drip, drip of Russia scandal revelations has been relentless. The truth is slowing emerging, and as a picture is being painted of a presidential campaign that worked with a hostile foreign power to win an election.

    If Paul Manafort ever cooperates with prosecutors, it could mean the end for the Trump presidency.”

  29. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Chad99999 August 12, 2017 at 5:08 PM
    “Nuclear war, however, would wreck the Chinese economy and guarantee American hegemony for another generation. Trump has very little to lose.”

    Come on Chaddie, my son, we do like your maverick position on most controversial topics on BU. But we take great umbrage when you dance on the stage of hypocrisy and double-speak.

    Are you the same Chad, the 9×5 kid with that smoking gun cocked at 45 degree,s who said all countries should be armed to the hilt with nuclear weapons to ensure a zero-sum environment of permanent peace?

    Is that why you see India and Pakistan never going to a state of MAD?

    Shouldn’t Iran then be that balancing weight in the Middle East fully nuclear-armed to ensure Israel is always kept on the straight and narrow path away from another Sodom & Gomorrah?
    The outbreak of a nuclear world war will spell the death of western civilization as you know it.

    But you sound like the kind of guy who welcomes the resetting of the human civilization clock as a quick-fix solution to mankind’ modern-day problems.


  30. David

    Feel free to remove these posts that are restricted.


  31. Well Well

    As bad as things are getting with Trump, the Clintons and their clique, like Deborah Wasserman Schulz could be in deeper shiite, even murder!

    Check out these two hours about a Pakistani-‘American’ by the name of Irmran Awan and the corruption around the Clintons.

    No system could withstand these levels of corruption, can they?

    http://prn.fm/leid-stories-awan-brothers-different-kind-family-business-08-09-17/

    http://prn.fm/leid-stories-awan-brothers-different-kind-family-business-part-2-08-11-17/

  32. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Pacha…….Karma has arrived.

    Hillary and Bill are no different to trump, they are all friends.


  33. MTN

    99% of the time, possession of nuclear weapons by all sides involved in a dispute will prevent war. And it probably will in this case.

    But if it does not, the Western world will have the upper hand, at least for now. China knows this and is not pleased that Kim Jr is drawing so much attention to North Korea’s capabilities, which were supposed to be for defensive purposes only.

    Surprised that China has not found a way to remove Kim Jr. He is upsetting the applecart.


  34. Bajans like to ignore the role of race, racism, as a basic element in most things.

    The Charlottesville incident is not being called terrorism by officialdom because White fascists are involved.

    When Muslims do the same thing in London, car ramming ‘innocent’ civilians, terrorism is the constant cry.

    Dylan Root, up to this day, is not seen as a terrorist nor is being tried as such.

    Go figure!


  35. Pacha
    is wrong again. Caught up in the hysteria of the last two years. Progressives keep twisting the facts

    Factoid: In the first six months of this year, under the much-despised ‘fascist’ Trump administration, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement deported about 105,000 illegal immigrants. Of these, 61,370 were illegals with criminal records. By comparison, in the same period last year under the Obama administration, there were 121,700 deportations, including 70,603 of illegals with criminal records.

    All this hype from WW&C for no reason.

  36. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Chadster……Obama deported over 3 million people deemed not fit for the criminal country USA…the illegal Europeans been going into US from the 1500 and 1600s stealing land that dont belong to them from Black and Indian Natives and deported them when they fought back….deportation has always been white americas way….so what’s your point.

    the orange trump is still a white criminal, he will still be impeached and locked up and if I had my way, him and ALL his idiot supporters would be deported to a hole in Europe, where they all belong, because they are all illegals squatting on native black and indian lands..

    ..since you dont seem to be in the US anymore, I would bar you from ever entering there again.

    Again…what’s your point.

  37. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    I should be really saying…because that is what they were and still are as seen on facebook these days.

    the illegal white European terrorists been going into US from the 1500 and 1600s stealing land that dont belong to them from Black and Indian Natives and deported and killed them when they fought back….deportation has always been white americas way….so what’s your point.

  38. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Chadster…China will not remove Kim, they do not want an American puppet in NK…look at its close proximity to China on a map, it’s only separated by a border and there are trillions of dollars worth of natural minerals under NKs mountains,.

    China just does not want Kim attacking the US first, which makes sense, but if idiot trump attacks NK first, China will retaliate, so the orange idiot better cool his jets.

    Bith Kim and trump are just 2 clowns thinking nuclear weapons are toys.

  39. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Headline for today….Chadster is another.

    “One of Trump’s Imps.

    James Alex Fields was arrested on suspicion of second-degree murder, and the car that rammed into the Charlottesville rally was registered to a man by the same name. One person, a 32-year-old woman named Heather Heyer, died at the scene. At least 19 people were injured from the crash, some seriously.

    Fields was raised by a single mom, after his dad was killed by a drunk driver shortly after he was born.

    The suspect is in jail, with an arraignment scheduled for Monday. He is being held without bond.

    This is a developing story.”


  40. @ Chad99999

    ………… is a disingenuous individual.

    It seems as though Donald Trump believes being President is a reality T.V show, since he is all about T.V and popularity ratings and would do or say anything to increase his overall ratings.

    Recall in October 2012 Obama’s approval rating was about 50%, Trump suggested, via Twitter, Obama should start a war if he wanted to improve his ratings.

    Additionally, as the only “bright boy” in this forum, Chad99999 should be not be surprised by the increase in Trump’s ratings, since his rhetoric against North Korea, because over the years US presidents usually GAIN an INCREASE in SUPPORT when issues of war arise.

    Chad99999 always BOASTS about reading information from academic sources. And as the only “bright boy” in this forum, I’m sure he would have read political scientist John Mueller’s 1973 paper entitled “Presidential Popularity from Truman to Johnson,” in which he utilized the “rally ‘round the flag effect/syndrome” as one of the four independent or predictor variables of presidential popularity.

    Political historians and scientists use the “rally ‘round the flag effect” to explain the SHORT-TERM INCREASE in POPULAR SUPPORT of a US president during periods of international crisis or threats of war.

    Chad99999 should also be aware that, to further explain the syndrome, Muller used the examples of President Franklin Roosevelt’s approval rating, whose approval rating was 72% prior to the Pearl Harbor attack and subsequently increasing to 84% in the days after the attack.

    I’m not surprised Chad99999 purposely refused to mention that, as indicated by the Gallup polls, President George H.W Bush’s approval ratings increased from 64% to 82% at the beginning of the 1991 Persian Gulf War; and George W. Bush’s approval ratings improved from 58% to 71% at the launch of the 2003 Iraq war.

    Chad9999 attempted to mislead this forum, by purposely refusing to mention these issues, in an effort to convince us that Trump is a “phenomenal president,” when in actuality the man is a COMPULSIVE LIAR, MISOGYNIST, RACIST SCUM BAG.

    Come to think of it, Chad9999 exhibits similar characteristics in his contributions……. No wonder why he admires Trump.

  41. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    Chadsterthetrumpimp has to be monitored.


  42. Trump is a White supremacist.

    There are no White nationalists in the USA

    Even if they were, Obama would have been a White nationalist too.

    Nationalism relates to wider claims

    Trump and the KKK are deeply rooted in the White supremacy movement.

    So his false claim about violence on all sides is malarkey.

    Or that what racism represents goes beyond his administration is as ignorant as this institution has been. As though he, himself, is not a blatant, rabid, racist.

    This is a false equivalency. Comparing anti-racists to his racist friends

    This is why your wicked systems are under Pacha’s divine judgement currently.


  43. The longer #45 refuses to condemn David Duke the over flowing of hate and unrest will continue not unlike what is raising its head n Barbados.


  44. David
    You underestimate what’s happening.

    Times are tough. Nuff whites start to feel what blacks have long known.

    And white people will not suffer in silence, like stupid blacks.

    A revolution is coming


  45. David

    is doing his impersonation of dunceness very well.

    Overflowing of hate? America is a country of more than 300 million people. The alt-right movement manages one tiny demonstration in 2017 and David announces that America is OVERFLOWING with hate.

    David, you could go about your business for years in America and never come across a single white man who would even give you an angry look.

    Stop crying Wolf.


  46. Pacha

    The Revolution is not coming.

    Sorry. There will be no revolution in your lifetime.

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