Caribbean Governments Asked to Approach UN Security Council to Stave Off War Between US and North Korea

Submitted by Bobby Clarke, Vice President, Clement Payne Movement

Caricom

The Clement Payne Movement call upon the Caricom Secretariat to call a meeting of the Caribbean Heads of Government to impress upon Donald Trump, President of the United States of America and to Kim Jong Un, the Democratic Republic of North Korea President, to settle their differences by means of mediation.

The erratic statements by President Donald Trump, which if put into practice will cause the most devastation the world will ever know. Because of the borders of the Democratic Republic of North Korea and China, any error by America’s bombing of the Democratic Republic of North Korea could by error, cause collateral damage to the Republic of China

This will then put the two major countries of the world in confrontation with each and bring about annihilation not only of the United States and to the Chinese Republic but of all of Eastern Asia and North America among others.

The Caribbean Heads of Government need to make a serious approach to the United States of America and the United Nations Security Council to stop any further advancement by the US, the most powerful nuclear power in the world, from starting this war; either by action or a response to the Democratic Republic of North Korea infantile action.

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  • Marcus Garvey was a Jamaican segregationist. The passages below are excerpted from a paper on his life and philosophy.

    In September 1923, he delivered a speech in New York that included the statement, “[W]e believe in race purity […] [w]e believe that the White race should protect itself against racial contamination, and the Negro should do the same.”

    In March 1934, in his magazine, The Black Man, Garvey recommended Hitler’s Mein Kampf, expressing his hope that one day the Black race would produce its own Hitler. He wrote the following disturbing words, “Hitler has a lesson to teach and he is teaching it well.”

    In July 1922, he publicly stated:
    From impressions, from my observations, from my understanding, the Ku Klux Klan is a mighty white organization in the United States of America, organized for the purpose of upholding white supremacy in this country; organized for the purpose of making America a white man’s country, pure and simple. The organization has absolutely no apology to make as far as its program is concerned – a program of making America a white man’s country. […] Whilst the Ku Klux Klan desires to make America absolutely a white man’s country, the Universal Negro Improvement Association wants to make Africa absolutely a Black man’s country.

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  • Chad, what exactly is the point???

    Marcus Garvey was what he was….so what does that have to do with Charlottesville and these white men harbouring their monuments n moments by saying “whose streets, our streets” or “You/Jews will not replace us”.

    Malcolm X, was KILLED by the NOI….yes he was their spokesman BUT he eventually disavowed the bigamist n carefree lifestyle of his NOT leader….they killed their spokesman because of that.

    WHAT IS YOUR NON-POINT!

    Your Supremacist/Racist-in-Chief has spoken and will rend the US n world apart in his absolute bigotry… continue with these nonsensical false narratives that have no meaning to present circumstances.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Chadsterthetrumpimp….Maocolm X spoke the truth, since when is soeaking the truth racist…look what happened in Virginia, only an evil devil will drive a car into a crowd of people deliberately, who did nithing to him.

    Kluless kluk klan…still dont have a country, the US will never be theirs, there were indigenous native blacks and indians there centuries before them, who are still thete…kluless kluck klan should have stayed in Europe where they belong, they can still go back.

    Africa has had black people there for millions of years….it’s always been a black country, a dude’s genes were recently investigated…338,000 years okd from subsaharan Africa, he lives in the southern US.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Kluless kluk klan…still dont have a country, the US will never be theirs, there were indigenous native blacks and indians there centuries before them, who are still there……they have to learn to live with the natives they found there.

    …………genes are.338,000 years old from subsaharan Africa, he lives in the southern US, born American..

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  • It is one thing to go after Black, it is another to go after Jews. The Jews have a major stake on the power structure of the US unlike Blacks. Sit back and enjoy the ride folks.

    Trump administration demands data on over a million visitors to anti-Trump site

    Zack Whittaker

    By Zack Whittaker for Zero Day | August 15, 2017 — 01:00 GMT (18:00 PDT) | Topic: Security

     

    (Image: file photo via CBS News)

    The Trump administration is demanding web host provider Dreamhost turn over the logs of over 1.3 million visitors to an anti-Trump website it hosts, the company has revealed.

    News of the Justice Department order landed Monday when the company took an unusual step of announcing that it had been in talks with the government to clarify and narrow the search warrant in an effort to comply, but had failed to reach an amicable resolution.

    The order demanded that the company provide "all information available", including its owner and its visitors, of a political activism and protest organizing website against the current Trump administration, the web host said in a blog post.

    The website, known as DisruptJ20, is a political organization that planned a mass protest for the inauguration of then president-elect Donald Trump in January.

    Several purported members of the organization were arrested for alleged violent conduct during the protests.

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/trump-government-demands-data-million-anti-trump-website-visitors/?loc=newsletter_large_thumb_featured&ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=25407511393627171435088077157352

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  • Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    there is a big brawl on facebook where white crazy dudes belonging to the orange warmonger claims that they are being victimized, someone told them get over themselves, that the laws created by them also applies to them, that they are neither special nor superior and have to share space with everyone else.

    ah guess that did not go down too well…lol

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  • @chad99999

    Do you think that it is possible that both Marcus Garvey and Malcolm X were responding to the racism whichh they encountered in the United States of America?

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  • I am told there is now a statue of Marcus Garvey at the University of the West Indies.

    Suppose some white Jamaicans decided to tear it down because to them Garvey is a threatening figure. What do you think the reaction of many black Jamaicans would be?

    It is outrageous that black people are spewing bile at white people who object to the removal of Confederate statues .

    That is my point. Suck it up.

    Of course, David is right when he says that it is the Jews who are most influential in pressing the attacks against the alt-right.

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  • @Chad99999 August 15, 2017 at 5:51 AM “scream “Nazi!.”

    What are you saying then, that the people waving swastika are not Nazis?

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  • No. I’m saying don’t provoke people and then accuse them of being stormtroopers — aggressors.

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  • @Chad99999 August 11, 2017 at 8:53 PM “Bring it on. We’re locked and loaded!”

    While you hide under your mommy’s bed.

    The same you who complained to the blogmaster that I was mean to you, and that I must behave.

    If you cant take the mild virtual heat of a far away blog, how will you manage through a nuclear war?

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Dont mind Chadsterthetrumpimp,.,,…even Kim Fat Un has decided it is not only cheaper but more entertaining to watch the orange nazi trump and his nazi racist followers destroy the US and themselves while he watches from North Korea….lol.

    Evrryone who is not racist respected and believed in Marcus Garvey, Garvey was never a slaveowner, rapist racist thief….white Jamaican are not dumb.

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  • Simpleton

    I never said you were mean to me.

    I made the observation that you issued physical threats to those who disagreed with you.

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  • Bushie continues to hope that Chad is joking around with us all …and not being at all serious in his position on Trump – especially WRT his nuclear ramblings… for his reputation’s sake..

    The problem with people like ‘Kim Fat Un’, is that they need not win any big PR ‘bassa bassa’ with Trump …not in the face of superior technology and weaponry… and not when he can simply provide some ISIS idiot with a little suitcase …. or a truck, that can be simply ‘shipped’ into NYC….

    Neither Trump …or Chad seems to get the reality of modern warfare. It is not at all about complex missile defence systems and large carrier groups – these are ECONOMIC tools designed to make billions in profits for the military -Industrial complex.

    Since Vietnam, ‘war’ has increasingly been a covert, gorilla-styled concept of stealth and deceit. The day that nuclear war become part of that philosophy is only as far away as an offended ego of an unstable idiot like Kim Fat – prodded by another unstable, idiotic, orange clown…

    Bushie thought that Chad was intelligent enough to be aware of this reality…

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Simple……..don’t mind Chadsterthetrumpimp….he has been outed and totally exposed, just like all the other nazi racists in the US, they echo the same nasty things he spouts on BU……

    ….all of their websites are being taken down for hate speech, they are becoming more and more brazen, violent and vicious, because their orange leader trump has finally decided to hell with Congress and the American people and he is now openly supporting nazis and racist no matter what anyone thinks..

    …..he is a nazi plant, as is Chadster.

    Bushman….Chadster is not joking around, I spent enough time in the last few days discoursing with nazi racists, Chadster is a nazi clone…his job is to hijack the blog and fill it with nazi nastiness, he thought it was filled with only weak commenters….that is why he stayed so long, battling to get a racist ideology across, the final destruction of black people..

    There is now a serious battle going on and everyone has to close ranks in the US to rid the white house and whole country of nazis or suffer the consequences.

    Kim Fat Un now realizes he does not have to do anything to the US, he backed off when he saw the nazi racist in the white house and his followers will do it all for him and he can sit in NK and enjoy the show wuthout spending a dime, this is so much bigger than anyone thinks.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    See for yourselves….

    Reformed white supremacist Christian Picciolini on Charlottesville terrorism incident

    “I believe that the world has now seen what we have been sweeping under the rug for many years — thinking we were in a post-racial society. … I think that this catalyst shows the world,
    1. That it’s a problem, a real problem that exists in our country;
    2: that white extremism should be classified as terrorism, and now that we attached the terrorism word to it, it will get more resources. It will be at the top of people’s minds.

    What people need to understand is that since Sept. 11, more Americans have been killed on U.S. soil by white supremacists than by any other foreign or domestic group combined by a factor of two. Yet we don’t really talk about that, nor do we even call these instances, of the shooting at Charleston, S.C., or what happened at Oak Creek, Wis., at the Sikh temple or even what happened in Charlottesville this weekend — as terrorism.”

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  • WW&C

    You really need to lift your game, or at the least, stop talking trash.

    Trump is a businessman who chose to live and make his fortune in New York, the most Jewish of American cities. His favorite daughter converted to Judaism and is married to a Jew, who is one of the most powerful advisors in the Trump administration.

    Yet you keep calling Trump a Nazi. Do you see how absurd that is? Do you understand anything about politics? Do you engage in any kind of self-reflection or self-criticism? Do you think black people are always right?

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  • There were people of Jewish heritage in the Nazis and there were black police in Bull O’Connor’s Chicago police in the 1960s. Historically, we have always had ‘watchmen’ on plantations beating up little boys for stealing cane.

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  • Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    Chadsterthetrumpimp….been too busy to to see ya usual stupidity, but i know you copied that fraud statement from a racist nazi on facebook because i saw it…so what.

    trump is a racist kkk nazi….just like his father was. his father gave him his contacts in NY….where else was he going to start his business most of which went bankrupt.

    what does his daughter marrying a jew have to do with anything, that stops no one from being racist or nazi, people marry each other everyday….you will see her in her hood, she wears an invisible one now….

    besides both kushner and his father are crooks, father is an excon, jared about to go to prison, so they fit right in with the trumps….ya so uninformed.

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  • Do you know why Jared Kushner went to prison?

    Have you heard about the criminalization of politics in America?

    Do you think Kushner Sr would have been imprisoned if he were operating in Europe or Canada?

    Are you a complete dummy?

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  • Chad, so the man is not a Nazi sympathasier according to you because his daughter has married a man of Jewish faith….

    …. Strom Thurmond went several steps beyond that in comparison…. he ‘screwed’ those of African descent and sired off-spring even as he rabidly acted his KKK life of hate towards them.

    It is NEVER too absurd to be a selective extremeist hater… our motivations can be simple and carnal as can our intentions be crass n self serving!

    Trump and all politicians are quite adept at that game.

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  • Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    only last night i pulled up info on Strom Thurmonds half black daughter, now deceased, she died in 2013 at age 87, she looked just like him, the product of him raping his fathers 16 year old maid when he was 22.

    now that was one of the nastiest and most rabid racist and segregationists to infest and stain the earth, his hatred for black people was total and yet, he had a relationship with the daughter in latter years, who spent decades trying to change his nasty outlook and failed, only after he died was she able to publicly acknowledge he had a half black daughter who was the image of him, he spent at least 70 years in the senate, died at 100..a vile racist, hooded, black people hating, white supremacist….with a half black daughter.

    so Chadster is as usual talking racist nonsense he is copying from nazis and white supremacists on facebook, he dont have an original thought in his head, the US will soon expose him.

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  • @ Chad99999

    I believe you are purposely confusing the differences between what Confederacy represented and Malcolm X or Marcus Garvey’s opposing a social system the Confederacy supported.

    The Confederacy fought to maintain slavery and white supremacy in the USA. Are you of the opinion that this is something the country should honor or commemorate in any way?

    The Confederacy has always about white supremacy and their monuments were built to honour white supremacy and racism the Confederacy represented.

    Perhaps you should ask yourself the reasons why the Berlin Wall was demolished.

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  • @ Hal
    Historically, we have always had ‘watchmen’ on plantations beating up little boys for stealing cane.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    …and Vincent has been taking on the ‘watchman’ job on BU…..
    Problem is that his stick is just as soft as his other stick…
    …and he butt up on some REAL men on BU.
    LOL
    ha ha ha

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  • Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    Chadster is just being the well known trump idiot.

    Thurman was in the days when white males were still allowed to commit murder, rape, rob and a ton of crimes, free of consequences while blaming it all on black people.

    this new age illiterate, inbred nazis, racists, white supremacists kkk, nuisances like trump and his useless supporters are not only fighting to roll their lawlessness back tp pre Thurmond days so that the law no longer applies to whites, but are hellbent on labelling blacks and others who are fighting it in the US as communists, nigger lovers and racists.

    that is the battle now being fought in the US, taking down and exposing the nastiness of the Chadsters, trump and his useless, lying followers.

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  • Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    Bushman…for equality`s sake…and one woman……

    i have no clue where the girls of the BU blog disappeared to, dont know if you scared them off..lol…or they realized late that this is a never ending spiritual fight against evil.

    but if you want to call me a dude, that`s ok too…i can be flexible with my broom.

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  • You cannot know the real reasons white people honor any historical figure.

    For example, General Robert E. Lee fought to maintain plantation slavery. However, after the Civil War, he helped the South come to terms with its defeat and reconcile with the North.

    Are statues of Lee monuments to the cause of slavery? Or are they tributes to the military prowess, political astuteness and patriotism of an accomplished man?

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    “BREAKING STORY! Donald Trump and his family is accused in 350 Million Fraud investigation!”

    The SOHO scam, fraud, money laundering and a slew of crimes, stay tuned..lol

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  • Trump has been fortunate so far that he will overcome these accusations.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Chadster…yesterday Robert E. Lee’s 2 descendants told yall racist nazi kkk lowlife to stop using his name to justify yall modern day criminality, just yesterday I saw the letter on facebook, but here you are today on BU trying to justify your modern day nastiness.

    His descendants acknowledged that he was on the wrong side of history but wrote in his diary before he died that he made mistakes, they said he changed his proslavery, racist views.

    ..but here you are on BU, riding on a dead man’s coat tails…can you go any lower, yes you can.

    The statues should be in a museum, the resolution was passed in February by the city to remove them, whoever want to go pay to visit them in museums for whichever reason are welcome, no one cares, but keeping them in the open to act as visual aids for violent racist hate groups is not an option.

    Besides, the city of Virginia will more than likely face lawsuits because, the resolution was passed 6 months ago, the statues should have been gone, no permits should have been issued to violent armed racist hate groups, the city admitted AFTER the murder and injuries that they knew they were not equipped to handle hate groups, they are not as well armed as hate groups.

    So ya see, yall are just losers who aint too bright.

    Somebody took bribes not to take down those statues and to use them to create violence injuries and death, but it backfired, that person will be found and charged.

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  • Confederate statues and memorials to be removed across US – CNN
    edition.cnn.com/2017/08/15/us/confederate-memorial-removal-us…/index.html
    24 mins ago – Here are the Confederate memorials that will be removed after Charlottesville. … (CNN)More than 150 years after the Civil War ended, the Confederacy is memorialized with statues, monuments and historical markers across the United States. … The Charlottesville City Council voted in …

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  • Bushie

    Chuckle….poor you….you call for backup,you finally admitted that you are unable to debate anything……wass evah so from school days…but……ah ain see nor hear dem yet.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    This is what Robert E. Lee had to say before he died.

    “Mr Lee himself opposed erecting statues and monuments commemorating the Confederates after losing the war, saying that he felt it left the wounds of war open as the country was healing and coming together.”

    As one commenter puts it, let’s see monuments to those who suffered, not to those who inflicted the suffering.

    And even those I believe should be put in museums.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    And this is the reality of those racist statues and monuments in the US, not fraud Chadster’s fantasy. .

    “But unlike in Germany, where memorials to the victims of the Holocaust are erected on the ruins of Nazi buildings as a way to teach future generations about the sins and horrors of the past, most Confederate statues were designed to glorify the sins and horrors of the past.

    Professor Kirt von Daacke, co-chair of the University of Virginia President’s Commission on Slavery and the University, explains that the Robert E. Lee statue in Charlottesville was erected in 1924 “as part of the apex of white supremacist rule in Virginia and the US. It was explicitly part of a project designed to claim public space for whites only and remind African Americans that they were the dominated whose lives were worthless.”

    Both the statue of Robert E. Lee and a nearby statue of Stonewall Jackson, he continues, were installed just after the KKK marched directly into the heart of the African-American community.

    “These statues,” he says, were “the final act in a 30-plus-year project in Virginia … eliminating African Americans from citizenship and the public sphere and erasing the history of the Civil War.” He sees both of them as part of a Lost Cause mythology that itself was a whitewashing of history.

    “To call these statues historical is to be willfully ignorant of history,” he adds. “The statues are monuments to white supremacy, not to Lee, not to Jackson.”

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    And that is why cities across the US are removing everyone of those racist statues and monuments, particularly since the kkk, nazi supremacist hate groups, killed a female and injured dozens. ..that was the best reason to pull them all down, right there.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    These people monitor social media, they are not dumb like trump supporters, what the hate groups should do is go out there and resist, the national guard would show them what for…lol

    “The descendants of Lee, Jackson and Davis want the Confederate statues to come down

    By Polo Sandoval and Darran Simon, CNN
    Updated 1652 GMT (0052 HKT) August 17, 2017
    Confederate monuments that still exist in the US 01:34
    (CNN)The great-great grandchildren of Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis and Stonewall Jackson have a message for those who adamantly want to preserve the Confederate leaders’ monuments: Let it go.

    Their message, all issued separately in interviews and open letters, are particularly resonant in a climate when there’s so much controversy over the Civil War symbols and when the President of the United States himself said removing them is ripping apart the country.
    Here’s what the family members had to say:

    Gen. Robert E. Lee
    Lee’s great-great grandson of Gen. Robert E. Lee condemned last weekend’s violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, and said it might be “appropriate” for Confederate statues to be exhibited in a museum.
    “Eventually, someone is going to have to make a decision, and if that’s the local lawmaker, so be it. But we have to be able to have that conversation without all of the hatred and the violence. And if they choose to take those statues down, fine,” Robert E. Lee V, 54, of Washington DC, told CNN.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Keep your hate to yourself, let it kill you, no sharing, we dont want it.

    “ROBERT E. LEE’S DIRECT DESCENDANT DENOUNCES CHARLOTTESVILLE WHITE NATIONALISTS: ‘THERE’S NO PLACE FOR THAT HATE’
    BY ZACH SCHONFELD ON 8/15/17 AT 9:07 PM
    Charlottesville Protest Revives Confederate Statue Removal Battle

    U.S.ROBERT E. LEECHARLOTTESVILLECIVIL WARRACISM
    Three days after Charlottesville, Virginia, erupted into violence and racial unrest, the family of Robert E. Lee is denouncing the white nationalist groups who rallied and marched to preserve a statue of the long-dead Civil War general.

    “There’s no place for that,” Robert E. Lee V tells Newsweek, referring to the white supremacist protesters who carried torches and marched through Charlottesville on Friday. “There’s no place for that hate.”

    The statue of Lee, which has stood in Charlottesville since 1924, is now at the center of a racially charged conflict that has gripped the city and resulted in one woman’s death. In February, the local city council decided to remove the statue from the park, noting that for many people, such Confederate monuments are “painful reminders of the violence and injustice of slavery and other harms of white supremacy that are best removed from public spaces.” In May, white supremacist Richard Spencer organized a demonstration in support of the monument, and on Friday evening, a large group of torch-bearing white nationalist marchers descended on Charlottesville to protest the decision to remove the statue.

    Related: Charlottesville statue of Robert E. Lee should be ‘relocated,’ says Jefferson Davis’s great-great-grandson

    Lee, a great-great-grandson of the Confederate hero, and his sister, Tracy Lee Crittenberger, issued a written statement on Tuesday condemning the “hateful words and violent actions of white supremacists, the KKK or neo-Nazis.”

    Then, Lee spoke with Newsweek by phone.

    “We don’t believe in that whatsoever,” Lee says. He is quick to defend his ancestor’s name: “Our belief is that General Lee would not tolerate that sort of behavior either. His first thing to do after the Civil War was to bring the Union back together, so we could become a more unified country.”

    JOSHUA ROBERTS/REUTERS

    The general was a slave owner who led the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia during the Civil War and who remains a folk hero throughout much of the South.

    “We don’t want people to think that they can hide behind Robert E. Lee’s name and his life for these senseless acts of violence that occurred on Saturday,” Lee says.

    The Lee heir says it would make sense to remove the embattled statue from public display and put it in a museum—a view shared by the great-great-grandson of Jefferson Davis.

    “I think that is absolutely an option, to move it to a museum and put it in the proper historical context,” Lee says. “Times were very different then. We look at the institution of slavery, and it’s absolutely horrendous. Back then, times were just extremely different. We understand that it’s complicated in 2017, when you look back at that period of time… If you want to put statues of General Lee or other Confederate people in museums, that makes good sense.”

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  • The legacy of Robert E. Lee is not a matter for his family to decide. It is a legacy shared by millions of people.

    Your grandchildren and great grandchildren will probably sell your letters, your property and anything else they can get money or attention for. Would you trust the little bastards?

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  • FROM THE JAMAICA OBSERVER:

    TRIBUTES TODAY IN JAMAICA TO A BLACK RACIST
    The 130th anniversary birthday celebrations of Jamaica’s first National Hero, Marcus Mosiah Garvey will commence this morning with a wreath laying ceremony at National Heroes Park, Kingston.

    Tributes will be paid by the Governor General, Sir Patrick Allen; Prime Minister, Andrew Holness; Minister of Culture, Gender, Entertainment and Sport, Olivia Grange; and Leader of the Opposition, Dr Peter Phillips.

    A Civic Ceremony for the late national hero will be held at Lawrence Park, St Ann’s Bay, St Ann courtesy of the St Ann Municipal Corporation, at which the culture minister will be the guest speaker. The function starts at 4:00 pm. Permanent secretary in the Ministry of Culture, Gender, Entertainment and Sport, will represent the minister at the Marcus Garvey Lecture scheduled for Liberty Hall in downtown Kingston, which starts at 10:00 am.

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  • http://reverepress.com/news/monuments-must-go-stonewall-jacksons-great-great-grandsons-post-powerful-open-letter/

    The statues, including those of their great, great-grandfather, “are overt symbols of racism and white supremacy, and the time is long overdue for them to depart from public display,” they wrote.
    ………………………………….

    Chuckle…….and that is the same reason for them to remain forever………so all can see and be reminded of that era of iniquity and how it replays itself with every new generation.

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  • Chuckle…..another one ready for Caricom mediation.

    Is trouble brewing for two of Asia’s biggest rivals?
    Forget North Korea — here’s the Asia flashpoint that really has analysts worried
    The world’s two biggest emerging economies are at direct odds on their shared border.
    cnbc.com|By CNBC
    http://cnb.cx/2v3dwXl

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Vincent…you are lost indeed.

    Chadster…but those “little bastards” do not want kkk, nazis and racist supremacists using the memory of their great, great, great to commit hate, mischief, murder and violence….their rights have to be respected by local city officials.

    Who gave any of yall the right to use Lee, Jackson or Davis like that, you have no right.

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  • @ chad99999

    So far, the white supremacists and associated groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and Neo-Nazis seem to be the only ones seeking to preserve these Confederate monuments and statues, while opposing their removal.

    And you are fully aware these groups are mainly comprised of racists.

    Therefore, you are being disingenuous to suggest the South is using General Robert E. Lee’s statue to commemorate his helping “the South come to terms with its defeat and reconcile with the North, after the civil war.”

    If that was true and there was a genuine reconciliation of both sides, would the North not be likewise offended by the removal of Lee’s statue as well?

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  • Artax

    I can see you have a very limited acquaintance with American conservatives.

    Most conservatives are upset at the removal of Confederate statues. Just visit the dozens of mainstream conservative websites and read the comments.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Conservatives and ultra conservatives are racists with this delusion to preserve racism and roll back the US to the days of slavery, hatred and no consequences for the evil actions of white racists/criminals/conservatives….they do not want any laws applying to them, only to others, bunch of low level scum.

    Their only goal in life is to preserve hatred and racism, based on that alone, none of them even deserve to have lives.

    Judging from Chadster’s deceitful motives on BU alone you clearly see what snakes they can be.

    It is done, the statues or gone, get over it and move on or face the national guards.

    Racist conservative hate groups of the neo nazi, white supremacist, kkk, alt right variety spent the whole week on facebook spreading hatred and intimidating, threatening and trying to scare commenters who disagreed with hate, racism and anti diversity…until facebook had to ban 8 groups of the disgusting bunch yesterday….the nasty things this uneducated bunch of lowlifes were saying trying to reincarnate hate and denigration on other people were unbelievable, but they were shocked to find that their hatred and bigotry were met with fire to burn them down..

    Hence many of them are now losing their jobs…they thought life was difficult before when they had it so easy, well let’s see how easy it is now they have to eat hate and racism for breakfast, lunch and dinner….because they have no jobs.

    Life was too good, too much damn white privilege….white privilege has to be burnt to the ground, it’s cancerous.

    Many of them are crying now like the little sissy cowards that they are, Chadster is next.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    BTW….all those racist websites are being taken down, one by one.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Be careful how you visit conservative racist, neo nazi, kkk, white supremacist, alt right hate websites, they are all being monitored, they have been termed terrorists.

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  • Chuckle………

    shared a link.
    51 mins ·
    White nationalists flock to genetic ancestry tests. Some don’t like the result
    With the rise of spit-in-a-cup genetic testing, there’s a trend of white nationalists using these services to prove their racial identity.
    statnews.com
    https://www.statnews.com/2017/08/16/white-nationalists-genetic-ancestry-test/

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  • Chad99999……….the removal of those Confederate monuments and statues is an Obama initiative that Trump CANNOT reverse.

    …….. must have you and him very angry.

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  • US President Donald Trump’s chief strategist Steve Bannon has left his post.

    “He’s gone,” a source close to the White House aide confirmed to the BBC.

    His exit follows a review of his position by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly.

    Mr Bannon, a right-wing nationalist and former head of Breitbart.com, was seen as having shaped Mr Trump’s election campaign.

    But he had struggled for influence in the West Wing with rival advisers and the Trump family, according to US media.
    http://bbc.in/2uYu7fp

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  • The removal of the Confederate statues has nothing to do with Obama.

    The movement started in South Carolina, which removed its Confederate monuments from the grounds of the state legislature after a white nationalist murdered several black people in a church in Charleston, SC.

    The removal of Steve Bannon means Trump is allowing the Generals (Kelly, Mad Dog, and McMaster) to take over much of his Administration. Bannon was an advisor. He did not shape the election campaign. In fact, the main reason he is being forced out is that he helped a Bloomberg journalist write a book about the campaign in which he (Bannon) claimed to have shaped campaign strategy. That pissed Trump off because Trump shaped his own campaign with help from Paul Manafort and Steven Miller,

    Trump thinks Bannon has been showboating, and Trump likes to fire people. If Bannon is pissed, look out. He can use Breitbart.com to attack Trump.

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  • Excerpt from an Internet story on The Donald:

    At one point, Donald Trump gave free office space to Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow PUSH Coalition.

    Kara Young, a biracial model who dated The Donald for two years before he met Melania, was asked whether she thought Trump was racist or supported white supremacist ideals, Ms. Young said, “That was not my experience.”

    Ms. Young was among the few African-Americans to be personally close to the real estate developer and reality television star.

    She dated Mr. Trump nearly 20 years ago, but Ms. Young, whose mother is black and whose father is white, recalled a man with limited understanding of other cultures. He didn’t talk much about race or racial history, she said, but he had a curious racial awareness and a propensity for stereotypes.

    “We went to the U.S. Open once, and a lot of black people came because it was Venus and Serena,” she said, referring to the Williams sisters. “He was impressed that a lot of black people came to the U.S. Open because they were playing.”

    Black people, he seemed to think, did not watch tennis.

    Ms. Young, who would not give her age but said she was roughly two decades younger than Trump, began dating him around 1997. Mr. Trump spotted Ms. Young at a party in the Hamptons and later asked someone for her number and called her.

    Their pairing made headlines, after Ms. Young was reported to have left her then-boyfriend, a celebrity reporter named A.J. Benza, for Mr. Trump, a fact that Mr. Trump boasted of on talk radio.

    “A.J. doesn’t like Trump for one reason: I stole his girlfriend. I took her away like he was a dog,” Mr. Trump told his friend, the radio shock jock Howard Stern.

    Ms. Young said she had watched the fallout from Charlottesville and was “horrified” by his comments putting white supremacists and counter protesters on the same plane.

    She despaired over the racial landscape in the country and her former boyfriend’s stoking of tensions.

    “It’s horrifying what happened at the rally,” Ms. Young said. “I think it’s crazy, and I think it’s sad that this is where our country is.”

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  • Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/roger-b-taney-statue-taken-down-charlottesville-clashes-racist-supreme-court-judge-a7900771.html

    `Workers have pulled down a statue in tribute to a US Supreme Court justice who defended slavery – days after plans to remove a similar symbol of racism in Charlottesville sparked mass riots.

    Maryland Governor Larry Hogan ordered the dismantling of the memorial to Roger B Taney outside the Maryland State House – which came after decades of pressure from civil rights groups.

    Mr Taney ruled in a landmark case in 1857 that black people should not be given US citizenship – a move which historians say indirectly triggered the civil war in the country.`

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  • Let’s be clear Chad45, your causal links to Obama, the Charleston heros and statute removal are technical correct but @Artax is philosophically accurate when he invokes Obama as the baseline initiator of these actions: It was his ascendancy that precipitated the vile, racist birther nonsense and all that n more can be traced as a genesis of the bubbling hate from that degenerate in SC.

    The anger n vitriol re the confederate flag and monuments have been waged in US for generations…yes, the cries for removals have become greater over the years finally coming to its high point after South Carolina….but the fact that the tragic massacre at the AME church in Charleston was the fire to move then Gov Haley to action is shameful.

    You along with others argue the Confederacy’s debate as a false narrative and seek to  “obfuscate attempts to whitewash an ugly period of US history (by) framing the Confederate flag and monuments more as symbols of white heritage … rather than explicit symbols of racism.”

    Bannon should NEVER have been a WH advisor  and his removal was necessary and unavoidable.

    The removal of the son-in-law n daughter as formal advisors/confidants is also required.

    It’s not hard to understand why the group Black Lives Matter who are fighting for the basic human rights to stop police brutality and overreach are considered a terrorist group by the alt-right and right wing sympathizers when those same folk embrace an anti establishment, terrorist KKK who perpetuated very similar heinous acts ….. it is unbelievable however that a sitting president in 2017 embraces that…

    Obviously there’s a clear racist interest – a so called “whitelash” – fueling this battle over confederate statues…

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Chadsterthetrumpplant….one more vile white racist supremacist down. ……NEXT.

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  • WW three things you guys will vote in the UN exactly the way the chinese have been grooming you too, secondly try taking the statues of simon bolivar down ( a slave owner by the way) and see if you dont end up with a colombian necktie. Cut the crap if you take all the statues down none of you guys will remember who you want reparations from.

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  • Lawson before you post nonsense you need to know your history. To use Simon Bolivar support your point is an error. Is it about removing statues or more assessing the environment to determine that some symbols promote hate. Life is about making decisions based on what is before us.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Am sure Lawson been reading, even from descendants of Lee et al, the statues are not going further than museums, as soon as they can set up a museum for slave owners, thieves, murderers racists and nazis…so people can pay to go gawk at them in disgust…lol

    Lawson…ya mean all this time and those kkk, nazis, white supremacist, alt right been selling cocaine, meth and heroin by the ton and none of them know how to do a Colombian necktie…ah told ya they useless.

    Ah see ya half wit racists and wannabe white supremacists in Vancouver trying to stir up crap cause they feel ignored….they want rounding up and sticking in the iciest part of the Yukon tundra.

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  • Oh you mean like bussa. and before you go on about what it means to you as a minority tourist on your island it just gives the populace a reason to hate me before I even come there.
    Yes life is about making decisions about what is before but not re-writing history using the optics of today for decisions made in the past. I can bet a lot of the soldiers never owned slaves and were just pawns but that does not negate their bravery. The red baron , rommel etc although on the losing side are admired by enemies and friends alike.
    Bolivar did own slaves but saw a better way up to the twelfth president of US owned slaves but does that mean they are written or pulled down out of history. You can align with sharpton and try and get rid of jefferson memorial good luck with that .

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Chadster….Kara Young is lying.

    People are still gagging at the idea that she thinss so little of herself that she would date a repulsive skank like trump, who got on a golf course asking his buddy if he ever “f*** a ni**er, they aint too bad”….D

    on Cheadle just exposed that conversation and hates trump to this day.

    Ya such a loser like Bannon, trump will soon disown you, but Bannon will finish him off, it’s on….lol

    Yall trump supporters are too skanky.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson…you honor the victimized, not their abusers, as far as am concerned, all statues belong in museums, it does not take away from the abhorrent histories.

    Besides, if yall white criminals would stop glorifying hate, racism, murders, rapes , kidnappings, thefts and every evil committed by your ancestors and still calling it white culture….no one, including intelligent whites would have a reason to protest .

    People are protesting that they are whites dumb enough to want a repeat.

    The US will remove them all eventually, they all belong together….in museums .

    Some clown suggested recently that Obama be added to the slave owners for dead presidents on Mt. Rushmore….the person nearly got their head torn off, insulting it would be to make dead slave owning presidentss look good by sticking Obama in their midst to perpetrate more lies and rewrite histiry, now yall looking for the US to be burnt to the ground.

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  • Sept 24 ottawa wecomes the world barbados . As part of our 150 yr anniversary each country puts on the food and attractions of there country. I here for the real life experience they are bringing in a trio of panhandlers from st lawrence gap.

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  • Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    Lawson….ah gotta make corrections..lol.

    Besides, it’s useless hating whites going to Barbados as tourists, ya just gotta keep ya eyes on them to make sure they ARE NOT stealing anything from the island….most of them are thieves you know.

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  • You would compare what Bussa represents to Barbados and Barbadians to Robert Lee/confederate statues? Do you see Black Barbadians marching in the streets shouting KILL WHITE PEOPLE?

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  • David

    Hmmmm………..what does Bussa represent and to which Bimmers?

    Have you asked Caswell Franklyn what it represents to him?

    Wunnah Bimmers real confused with wunnah history……ah forgot blackmen tell no lies nor do they have personal agendas……..carry on smartly.

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  • Actually yes David I do, just watch a black lives matter rally, pigs in a blanket fry them like bacon etc or listen to a lot of other rhetoric for gods sake a black senator called for trumps assassination this week , have you been living under a rock or on one There is more than a million in law enforcement and most of them are white so who do you think they are talking about. Get real.

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  • Mr Blogmaster, making convenient arguments are the special of the day for many commenters on this topic.

    No one speaks of erasing history in the face of absent monuments to the Hitler military regime but its facile to advance an argument that those in a US civil war who fought with similiar zeal to hoist a replica of that supremacist ideology can be hailed as skillful battlefield tacticians to whom we should build or maintain memorials…other than in books and museums.

    One man’s activist will always be another’s terrorist, so the debate will forever rage!

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  • You may have the last word.

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  • This BLM ‘they are terrorists’ type discourse is so confoundingly disingenuous.

    There is no room for stupid comments on assassination of democratically elected leaders…and any other elected leader who supports that should be censured and removed from office.

    But with the terrible history across the US of police authorities viciously abusing Black suspects and the many recent video-taped instances of shooting them under contrived and illegal circumstances it’s unreal that BLM continues to be labelled so pejoratively.

    A cop’s job is dangerous …. but he or she cannot wear their KKK robes under their uniforms and then claim to be victims of a vocal and angry group of Black citizens…. that’s BS spiel.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson…shush, trump was calling for Obama to die every chance he could while Obama was president,all the racists were trying to set up his murder, one of the lowlifes and everyone knew who did it created an effigy of Obama being lynched…and you did not say a word Lawson…you racist.

    The orange turd said he could shoot anyone dead on 5th Avenue with no consequences…and you did not say a word…. you vile trump follower.

    The female got carried away with emotion and that too shall pass, she was not the only one calling for trump to be taken out, all over facebook there is a call, me personally, I prefer him remain just for the entertainment and embarrassment value..lol

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  • WW lol if I am a racist it just goes to show how stupid you leftys are. But like most normal people we get tired of the constant barrage by you idiots leftys and you drive us from our centrist beliefs. I fear for this woman senator she may have sealed her own fate if the media plays it up. How unusual a black woman with a big mouth reminds me of the one from california that doesnt live in the district in her million dollar home getting bailouts for her husband. I wonder if they can trace bajan or DLP roots to her

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson…….most racists cannot stay away from black people, they got a fatal attraction filled with hate, ya notice ya cant stay out of Barbados right…lol…despite all that open space in Canada and the US right next door, you must fids a black majority country to vacation.

    The female senator will be fine one way or the next and that too shall pass, the orange clown will do something stupid in the next couple days to upstage that and everyone will call for him to be taken out as usual….lol

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