The Hal Gollop 1.5 million invoice
The following was posted to BU on another blog and worthy of penetrating discussion afforded a separate blog-space.
William. Please post the following info as well. Firstly, the BWA bought the land on which the building is located over 15 years ago and under the NHC Act. So the notion that he had to regularise the title to the land is absurd.
Secondly, Clarke Gittens and Farmer, the law firm which worked for the financier and whose legal fees the BWA also had to pay and who prepared ALL of the documentation) charged $275,000.00.
Thirdly, the BWA found the bill to be so large, that they had to pay the fees in installments.
Michael Carrington invoiced the BIDC fees of $1,000,000.00 for sale of a building at Newton Roundabout.
Michael Yearwood charged the SSA $1,500,000.00 for the Cahill project, when the SSA Board did not even have any knowledge of the project.
Richard Byer, a DLP member, charged Caves $750,000.00 for work which, when it was first done under the BLP, the fee was only $30,000.00. Same work, but the fee is $720,000.00 more.
But David Thompson led from in front, as any good leader would. According to the CLICO forensic report, Thompson charged CLICO $2,000,000.00 for the purchase of CCB, and the he charged CLICO a fraudulent and wholly fictitious $3,300,000.00 for work that did not even exist.
And we have to ask how much Adrian King, son of Maurice King, charged Clearwater Bay Limited ( the government entity) that guaranteed the loan to The Four Seasons project? Some say $5,000,000.00
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It is absolutely amazing how yardfowls will defend obvious graft under both political parties. Not too long ago it was about the BLP and David Shorey/Hallam Nicholls, Hardwood and 3S etc. Under the DLP we have a few earning extraordinary fees and contracts. Does anything ever change?
Go ahead and include the purchase of a brand new Mercedes automobile valued in excess of $700,000, delivered to the prime minister two days after the latest austerity budget, then factor in the millions of dollars unaccounted for at the BRA. These on the back of our poor-rakey ministers reinstating their salary forfeitures because the economy is now recovering so strongly. No wonder the MoF wants to widen the tax net to include street vendors.
They are thieves, plain and simple and no amount of million dollar bank accounts, Mercedes or big houses or ill gotten plantation properties can clean that up.
They are well aware that no fraud can be established and unless they can be locked up, they will continue these thefts of taxpayer’s money and pensioners money for decades.
The Barbados Lawyer Party can’ wait ta tek over ..
The Emoluments Report does not give clear information on Consultancies and Studies that are commissioned by Government.
The consultants and administrative class is making Bajans shite.
Is that how legal invoices are presented in Barbados? I would have sent it back! I would need to see the hours spent on each task and the hourly rate. That is how we pay invoices for lawyers up here. No wonder every second Bajan wants to be some lawyer.
The man is one of the biggest crooks on the island along with his son. To that add the smaller deals where he short changed ordinary hard working clientele. I think Carrington took classes from him, along with some of the members of the Employment Rights Tribunal. You know what they say about lawyers, the good ones are no longer walking this earth!
Our Prime Minister certainly has some very interesting ‘pals’.
BU is serving its purpose but we must step up the game plan for developments like this to be exposed and be subjected to investigation. Monies that are not properly accounted is reason enough for the persons behind their consent to be questioned and held accountable. This is why Mia Mottley must not be given a free, unrestricted ride into Prime Minister chair. One shite leader that is deceptive, manipulative and pretensive is enough. Imagine if we get a second.
@SSS
The issue here as explained by Jeff on the other blog is that once the two parties consent to the payment there is hardly grounds for criminal proceedings. It is more an unethical and immoral act. If we are to judge by Michael Carrington’s transaction there is no moral justice among the political class and supporters.
After the Leroy Parris CLICO thefts of millions of dollars of policyholder’s money, you would think that Fruendel would find himself some new friends and he woukd have if he had any ethics or integrity, seems like all his friends from the 60s are prone to stealing millions of dollars….from the people, through questionable invoices and fraudulent means.
While we fiddle in this forum about the reputation of fellow Barbadians, in the Nation a leading Muslim propagandist, one Suleiman Bulbalia, continues on his merry path refusing to condemn militant Islam.
Apart from the Nation, he is given an unquestioned weekly column in Barbados Today to promote his brand of Islam.
At no time has there been a national debate about Muslims in Barbados, apart from the fiction that because many of them have been born in Barbados they are therefore Barbadians. It is not true. Although born in Barbados, the state has the power to withdraw citizenry from any such person.
Citizenship is not a right, but a privilege as both the Germans and British have shown by withdrawn the right of residence from people born in those countries who went to the Middle East to take part in terror.
In a small society like Barbados, we must be strict, and speeches, propaganda, unexplained visits to Pakistan, Saudi and other hot beds should bee good enough reasons to render such persons stateless.
Militancy is not all, corruption is also key in the way they operate. But as long as we continue to believe, erroneously, that our Muslims are good Muslims, we will eventually pay a price. Just ask the Fijians.
It’s amazing and frightening how creative government ministers, lawyers/politicians, insurance executives and business people can all get when colluding and conspiring to steal from policyholders, taxpayers and pensioners to help ruin the economy, hide their stolen money and cover up their crimes effectively preventing any prosecution for their hundreds of millions in theft, fraud and money laundering to enrich themselves…….but these same criminals are totally incapable of any competence, effectiveness or creativity in fixing the economy to benefit the population they continuously steal from and disenfranchise.
Something is fundamentally wrong with that decades old practice.
Ha, Ha Austin….the UK need to withdraw their citizenship from you.
Hal is right ..one event like in britain and any island will be a tourist ghost town.. the govt should get ahead of the curve it is not a coincidence non integration and high unemployment seems to be a common thread there is an upside to islamic takeover WW will have to wear a burka
@ Hal Austin
Although I share your concern about Muslim extremists, (and I also have a similar fear of Religious extremists, political extremists, homosexual extremists, racist extremists (which is prevalent in Barbados) and the list could go on and on), I have heard Suleiman Bulbulia and other prominent Muslims “condemn militant Islam” on numerous occasions.
I’m forced to remind you of your contributions as follows:
“Hal Austin May 30, 2017 at 3:17 AM #: In the case of Mr Parris, if the state has a case against him they must bring charges. Otherwise the WHISPERS and PUBLIC ABUSE are not only UNDEMOCRATIC, but INFRINGES his human rights.”
“Hal Austin May 30, 2017 at 8:55 AM #: I know Barbadian REASONING is SUCH THAT to be ACCUSED is to be GUILTY. Ask those 13 yr old school kids now before the courts.”
For you to ACCUSE Bulbulia of being “a leading Muslim propagandist” and imply he is condoning terrorism because, in your misguided opinion, he is “refusing to condemn militant Islam,” are you not EQUALLY as GUILTY of “fiddling in this forum with the reputation of fellow Barbadians,” and even more so, since you have gone on your “merry path” of extremity and fear mongering?
Against the background of you reminding us about the “legal definitions” of “evidence and hearsay,” which you seem to use in situations convenient to your particular agenda, what evidence can you present to this forum that you used as a basis to categorically state Bulbulia is a “Muslim propagandist” and imply he is condoning militant Muslim extremists?
Also, according to you, without first having “evidence tested and cross examined in court,” then surely you must accept that until such time, your characterization of the man has to be based on “hearsay.”
Although you know “Barbadian reasoning is such that to be accused is to be guilty,” yet, for purposes of expressing your personal agenda, you have found Bulbulia guilty of your self-imposed crimes.
Under these circumstances, “your whispers and public abuse are not only undemocratic, but infringes his human rights” to religion.
Unless you are suggesting Leroy Parris and Hal Gollop are deserving of human rights than any other Barbadian?
Hal Austin, you made the rules, so play the game accordingly. You have demonstrated that there are not any fundamental differences between named and anonymous contributors. Both can be equally insulting and discourteous to other contributors.
Sunshine Sunny Shine June 5, 2017 at 1:10 AM #
BU is serving its purpose but we must step up the game plan for developments like this to be exposed and be subjected to investigation. Monies that are not properly accounted is reason enough for the persons behind their consent to be questioned and held accountable. This is why Mia Mottley must not be given a free, unrestricted ride into Prime Minister chair. One shite leader that is deceptive, manipulative and pretensive is enough. Imagine if we get a second.@@
SSS, you ot to know better than that, We have been telling you all for years and base on our postings we have not change but added, If you think BU is here for that or ever wanted deep change think again, Please think it was not long ago whee information was removed, You get this or you don’t, This is not a flag changing directions at will.,We even answer 99%of questions asked, You maybe better off asking ND.Both parties must be removed to cleanup Barbados, Who cook fresh food in a dirty pot?
Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger June 5, 2017 at 5:46 AM #
It’s amazing and frightening how creative government ministers, lawyers/politicians, insurance executives and business people can all get when colluding and conspiring to steal from policyholders, taxpayers and pensioners to help ruin the economy, hide their stolen money and cover up their crimes effectively preventing any prosecution for their hundreds of millions in theft, fraud and money laundering to enrich themselves…….but these same criminals are totally incapable of any competence, effectiveness or creativity in fixing the economy to benefit the population they continuously steal from and disenfranchise.
Something is fundamentally wrong with that decades old practice.@
I use this, well said,and still others will not wake up or reufuse to see or to get it, Same game different parties, Maybe the people born in the last 25 years will wake up and remove their parants crooks from office,
BAFBFP June 4, 2017 at 7:57 PM #
The Barbados Lawyer Party can’ wait ta tek over .
.@@@ the laws made by crooks, liar and scumbag lawyers were made to you be used against the People as another form of TAX, Nothing to do with Justice.All the laws needed are on the books but never used, Thisis why they need to be removed and charged,
EB-ICS-DL@state.gov
Last Published: 11/2/2016
Corruption is generally not a major problem in Barbados, but some U.S. companies have reported unfair treatment by Barbados’ Customs and Excise Department. Other U.S. companies have reported efforts by political actors to trade political support for payment or partial project ownership.
In 2012, Barbados enacted the Prevention of Corruption Act (2010), which repealed an outdated law from the 1920s. The Prevention of Corruption Act (2010) contains some provisions for Integrity in Public Life. There is no separate Integrity legislation.
In June 2015, twelve Commonwealth Caribbean countries including Barbados established a new regional body to enhance transparency and to help fight corruption. The formation of the Association of Integrity Commissions and Anti-Corruption Bodies in the Commonwealth Caribbean was heralded as a major step forward in regional efforts to support integrity and address corruption. It is hoped that the new body will help to further strengthen public confidence in cross-border initiatives to enhance accountability, knowledge sharing and coordination.
Resources to Report Corruption
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UN Anticorruption Convention, OECD Convention on Combatting Bribery
Barbados has not signed or ratified the Inter-American Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters. Barbados signed, but not yet ratified, the UN Convention on Corruption and the Inter-American Convention against Corruption.
The Freundel Stuart administration is not interested in pursuing anti-corruption legislation at present because it is not a priority, Attorney General Adriel Brathwaite said.
Brathwaite played down the stance taken by University of the West Indies political scientist Cynthia Barrow-Giles who indicated at a recent event that corruption was part of the political culture here, encouraged by the country’s penchant for furtiveness.
She added that the problem could not be solved by switching to a republican form of Government.
“There is corruption in this country, but we hide behind it because this country thrives on secrecy,” the lecturer in Comparative Government and Politics told a panel discussion last Tuesday at Ellerslie Secondary School on the topic: Should Barbados become a Republic – a Cross to Bear or Crown to Wear?
But Brathwaite countered that corruption was not a major problem in Barbados and it was too costly to pursue legislation against something that was not much of an issue.
“The issue with that is we do have a draft [legislation] in place. But it really calls for the setting up of a significant department in order to police the reports, do your analysis etcetera. But at a time when you are talking about cutting back on expenses, etcetera, it just didn’t seem to be priority to create a whole new department to deal with an issue that, when one looks at our reports etcetera, you would see that corruption is not a significant issue in Barbados,” he told Barbados TODAY this afternoon.
“And the question really was, do we really need to spend the money on this department at this point in time? That is really what it came down to, I think.”
The Minister of Legal Affairs said Government remained committed to enacting legislation to fight corruption, “but as I said, it is a question of cost and priority”.
Brathwaite said this legislation was not the only victim of the country’s financial squeeze. He made reference to a Law Revision section in the Ministry of the Attorney General which has had to be shelved because “it calls for some additional resources”.
“I am a very practical man . . . . Maybe we would have another look at it next year when things improve. You got to be practical about these things,” the administration’s chief legal adviser said.
“Corruption is not a major issue in Barbados. If you look at how we do in terms of world corruption . . . anti-corruption index, you see Barbados always scores quite high. The irony about the whole thing is that you have countries that have everything in place; the legislation in place, anti-corruption commission in place and don’t do any well as Barbados,” Brathwaite argued.
He described discussion on the subject and other issues which he did not list as “stupid noises” and stressed that he understood “from a practical perspective” why the ruling Democratic Labour Party Government had not kept some of its promises.
Barbados did not appear on Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index 2015 released on January 27, 2016.
During last Tuesday’s discussion Barrow-Giles said certain institutions needed to be put in place that would expose the corruption which takes place in this country.
“I’ve heard the Prime Minister of Barbados say in 2013 – he said so again in 2014 – that there is vote buying taking place in this country. If there is vote buying taking place in this country, then we need to move to stamp out the vote buying,” she told the audience.
Barrow-Giles has authored of a number of books, including, General Elections and Voting in the English Speaking Caribbean: 1992-2005.
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OBJECTS AND REASONS
This Bill makes provision for the prevention of corruption and
the implementation of
(a) the Inter-American Convention Against Corruption adopted on
29th March, 1996 in Caracas, Venezuela;
(b) Articles 8 and 9 of the United Nations Convention Against
Transnational Organized Crime relating to Corruption adopted on
29th September, 2003 in New York; and
(c) the United Nations Convention Against Corruption adopted
on 31st October, 2003 in New York,
to which Barbados is a signatory and for related matters.
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Around and around the mulberry bush we go.
Cops probe threat on Facebook
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David,
Physicians charge exorbitant fees; and have been for years, over 30,000 for operations, high fees for subsequent follow up visits. To Bajans; wherever up here is, lawyers fees ar in the vicinity of three hundred dollars an hour, or higher depending on the brief they have to work on, or the client. Big corporations or government, Federal or Provincial, get charged higher fees than others. Insurance companies get charged differently. There is also a published schedule of fees for certain cases.Check it out.
In keeping on this topic of national interest, instead of these stupidly distracting and useless rants of either “deport muslims” or “unmask anonymous bloggers”….I repeat.
First ……. a very clear message has to be sent by the people to politicians/government ministers and their friends, their lawyer colleagues, business people and minorities, particularly local and especially foreign minorities who all believe they are entitled to steal bajan taxpayer’s and pensioners money by the hundreds of millions of dolllars…..that they are not entitled, not only should they be exposed, but locked up for a long prison time, none of them have any conscience and delight in stealing money to which none of them are entitled.
Who better than Simmons to know the level of corruption on the island, am sure he has hidden documents as proof on each and every one of them as firmer AG and CJ…as they would have on him, but to be used only in the event of any of them talking…self-preservation, nothing to do with caring for the people on the island or fully exposing and stopping the corruption to benefit the people.
David,
“The bribers are usually the people in the private sector. All the big international companies that get exposed from time to time, they would have bribed the politician who is then held up to ridicule and exposed and often a lot of them get away.”
This is most pertinent. It happens all over he world. This is why Michael Flynn is in so much trouble now. Integrity is in the mind of the corruptible, or incorruptible.
Alvin…which doctor or you know in Canada charged 1.5 million dollars for a few visits or 3.3 million dollars fir legal consultations…which government department you know pays millions unless it’s consulting fees tied to 5 or 10 year contracts which actually produces positive results and not criminal, fraudulent wholesale theft of taxpayer’s and pensioners money.
Bring your proof yardfowl.
Someone from the Harper government had to take the fall for missing millions.
@ David
What did Bushie tell you about Alvin….?!!
@Bush Tea
Unlike others we read and ignore some comments after the first esentence 🙂
And unlike the other ac he does not engage in bombastic behaviour, aan indication of good home training. We respect that!
Is this why there were changes at the top at BWA earlier this year?If so it appears as though the octogenarian dribbler at the top survived whatever calamity befell the other 3 guys.Pray tell what good comes from an 82 year old chairman when a high court judge got to go home at 70 and a Chief Justice by 72 and a big able archbishop ‘o the West Indies by 70 but a politician can employ and put at the head of a serious life sustaining water company an old guy with no new ideas other than a loyal member of the Fatted Calf Brigade,big rope chain ghetto style in all.
Alvin…which doctor or lawyer you know in Canada charged 1.5 million dollars for a few visits or 3.3 million dollars fir legal consultations…..bring your proof.
In your yardfowl mind it happens all over the world, so under DLP it must be more disgustingly corrupt, have less integrity, steal more money and drive an even more expensive mercedes….at the people’s expense and that is fine by you cause ya are a lowly yardfowl….sickening.
@ David
Granted…. he is a decent chap.
That is why the “decent chap” should bring proof….google is available.
Clarke Gittens Farmer deserved every cent they charged as they drafted ALL the documents including the documents that Gollop claims he prepared and even tried to save the government funds by taking out clauses which would benefit certain Ministers directly (i.e. finders fees).Clarke Gittens Farmer’s invoice was addressed to and paid by Innotech and not BWA, if the Innotech then sent the bill to BWA that is another story.
Good lawyers have a job on their hands owing to the notoriety of the profession everywhere.
http://guyanachronicle.com/2017/05/31/ram-rails-against-unscrupulous-lawyers
@Gabriel
Then it is incumbent on the profession to efficiently self police. It is the reason why many are impatient with the lack of effectiveness of the Disciplinary Committee as one example.
There worst anybody who seems to feel them self as Black could be is a modern day slave
The kind of slave who would be critical of Muslims because they are Muslims. Where were these slaves when millions of Muslims were being murdered in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, elsewhere, by Christian armies, on Bush’s crusades.
For them, there are no useful idiots as misguided by some, including Western countries to promote their geo-political interests, historically using terrorism as a means of war. The British!
It was the very British who implemented some of the most grotesque acts of state terrorism against the peoples of the South.
Those included the removal of genitalia. The forceable removal of peoples from ancestral homelands. And on and on. Is that not the real terrorism.
But the terrorists they don’t like are to be the extremists. For them the ‘good’ terrorist are those who serve their interests. Like in Syria!
Trump just signed 400 billion dollars in deals with Saudi Arabia the centre for the global Wahhabi, Deash orientation. Not a word of criticism from the Black, ugly slave in the mother country.
That is the nature of an ugly Black man begging lodgings in Britain.
The USA has its fifth fleet stationed in Qatar. A country, only today, other British sponsored terrorist states have now broken diplomatic relations with on account of terrorist involvement.
This same Qatar has just contracted to buy 100 billion in weapons from the Americans alone.
BAE Systems and other weapons companies, of which the British Prime Minister’s husband has close and deep ‘contacts’ routinely sell weapons to countries who are well known to provide same to Deash.
This is surreal!
Imagine, the western masterminds of terrorism and their mindless slaves are now accusing others of their own historic crimes.
This corruption and wholesale theft from the people cannot continue, something has to give.
Lawson….wear what burqa what, I would turn all muslim men into strippers.
@ David 6:13 AM
And who are these consenting parties in the scenarios outlined above ? From whence did they get these powers? As principal can I recover the excessive fees from my agents? Because that is who they are? They are acting on behalf of me, the taxpayer.
There has to be more in the mortar than this simple legalistic conclusion.
@Bernard
Do we have the power of recall built in to our laws?
If the party acting on behalf of government (Innotech) and Gollop (law firm) agree to a fee how can it be prosecuted as illegal? We can’t even get the Auditor General findings acted on. Where were the financial rules ignored in this case.
WW& C 10 : 04 am
Lawson fetch the burqa quickly . We cannot have all these Muslim and pseudo Muslim men running about Barbados naked.
Fumbles & Gollop.
Messenger boy Sinkcler.
Forensic audits..
Invoice lacking clarity & detail (amateur hour).
We like it so..
@David June 4, 2017 at 6:50 PM “It is absolutely amazing how yardfowls will defend obvious graft under both political parties. Not too long ago it was about the BLP and David Shorey/Hallam Nicholls, Hardwood and 3S etc. ”
Not forgetting, Owen Arthur’s good buddy Rodney Wilkinson.
In a place where I used to work I was presented with something like this (not the same large number, but a number which was 3 times as high as the next nearest number) It was from an acquaintance of mine (whom I thought of as a friend) I had to tell her straight “it don’t work so, not with the tax payer’s money.”
We are friends still.
I love my family and friends, but there is a firm limit to that love.
@FearPlay June 4, 2017 at 7:20 PM “No wonder the MoF wants to widen the tax net to include street vendors.”
If street vendors are earning more that $20,000 per year, they SHOULD pay income taxes.
If they don’t then those of us working for wages have to pay more.
Tell me why should a clerk or cashier working for $20,001 per year pay taxes, and a roadside vendor working for $40,000 per year pay none?
@mitchlans June 4, 2017 at 11:33 PM “Our Prime Minister certainly has some very interesting ‘pals’.”
Is this man and Leroy Parris the friends of the pastor from Marchfield?
No wonder some of us have stopped going to church.
We can’t stomach the dealings of the church people and their friends.
@Hal Austin June 5, 2017 at 4:20 AM “While we fiddle in this forum about the reputation of fellow Barbadians, in the Nation a leading Muslim propagandist, one Suleiman Bulbalia, continues on his merry path refusing to condemn militant Islam.”
All violence is bad. We must never forget that even while today’s violent Islamists (no friends of mine) are today’s terrorists, that for the period 1492 to 1898 (when slavery was abolished in Brazil) that the European Christians were the violent terrorists. If you have children think about how terrorised parents felt when for hundreds of years the slave ships turned up on the west coast of Africa. And those who manned the slave ships were like today’s Islamists extremely religious people.
I have no use for those religions born in the Middle East.
Those religions have irredeemably contaminated the world.
@lawson June 5, 2017 at 6:15 AM “WW will have to wear a burka”
Maybe she would rather wear a burka than have a toad look at her beauty.
Who the cap fits…
@Bush Tea June 5, 2017 at 8:57 AM “Granted…he is a decent chap.”
You smoking something strange today?
I am planning to write a fairytale about lawyers, which, by the way, has no relation to anything that is going on or ever happened in Barbados as far as I know. I now propose to give BU followers a preview.
Once upon a time in a far-away land that had a legal system similar to the one which exists in Barbados there was a lawyer who came to the profession in her old age. She was determined to become wealthy by hook or by CROOK before the Grim Reaper put in his appearance.
One day a traveller came to this far-away land and liked it and decided to do some business there. The traveller did not know any lawyers in the far-away land and his enquiries led him to this old lawyer, who, by the way, was always a dunce that is why she only became a lawyer in her old age.
One day the traveller entrusted this old miserable lawyer with the princely sum of $750,000 but the temptation was too great for the old lady and the money promptly went missing. After several unsuccessful attempts to recover the money, the traveller reported the matter to the Solicitors’ Disciplinary Tribunal.
The matter was adjourned and lucky for the old crooked lawyer, she had a very influential friend who could steer work in her direction. The influential friend was able to get a contract for the lawyer where she had to do very little work but could charge almost $2 million.
The traveller was refunded, the influential friend was able to get a cut and the lawyer still came out smelling like a rose. The matter before the tribunal was discontinued.
The end for now.
@Caswell Franklyn June 5, 2017 at 11:42 AM “a lawyer who came to the profession in her old age.”
OBJECTION: That lawyer in far-away-land had to be a man.
Just sayin’
“Those religions have irredeemably contaminated the world.”
Definitely…all religions are contaminants.
Lol…Bernard…adult entertainment, we can even throw in Wonder Boy Grenville.
HOLD YOUR PEACE HAL
Let Mia say what she said in the House out side of the house.
Simple.
David Ellis summed up the issue well today, this government rushes to label all criticism as BLP.
If Richard Byer was included, then surely there is a spot for Hal Gollop in “Lawyers in the News.”
How does government both central and Para statal select law firms (lawyers) to represent it’s affairs? There was the argument that large law firms are preferred by large entities because of the breath of expertise and resources available. Are these mom and pop law firms set up with adequate liabilty insurance cover for example?
I dont think Mia has to say what she already said inside parliament outside of parliament, again, there is the added proof which bajans had suspected for years and now the world knows.
Her job is to use her parliamentary privelege to expose the corrupt government ministers and once elected have each and every one investigated and consequently arrested for their crimes….that is her job, sge owes that to the people. ..and if any of the ministers had integrity, they would clean up the corruption, but they are all greedy and dishonest.
Looks like that one really hurt Carson…ya think corruption can be protected forever nothing lasts forever.
I remember an article in Barbados Today calling her a :LIAR.
AND SHE GOT VEX.
I cant understand how calling a LIAR, A LIAR, could upset a LIAR so.
She cant prove ONE single thing she said , that is why she SAID what she said in the House and no where else.
She is a COWARD.
Plus up to this day she has not produced her Legal qualifications and made them a DOCUMENT OF THE HOUSE as challenged by the HON. DR. DENNIS LOWE in the House.
MIA AMOR MOTTLEY is a bare blowhard.
you delete my TRUTHFUL comment, but it does not change anything.
The matter under Royal Barbados Police investigation.
Simple Simon @11: 13 AM
Surely the good Lord did not throw away the mould after making such a person with integrity like you. I am sure that with Permanent Secretaries, CEOs and Board Chairmen in the Public sector with your qualities, there would be no need for ineffective integrity legislation. It is all about civic responsibility ,courage and resolve to do what we know to be right.
The religions that are alleged to have come to us from the Middle East did not contaminate man. Man contaminated them. The good Lord does not prevent us from creating our own systems of belief and moral codes so stop blaming religions. They work for those who believe them.
An interesting article:
Trump picks Christian pro-life conservative to replace homosexual as Army Secretary
April 5, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — President Trump has chosen a Tea Party, pro-life conservative Christian and former U.S. Army flight surgeon as Secretary of the Army in a move that LGBTQ activists denounced, according to news sources.
If approved by the Senate, Tennessee State Sen. Mark Green, a Clarksville Republican, would fill the spot occupied by Eric Fanning, who was appointed in 2016 by former President Obama as the first “out” homosexual to hold the post.
@ WW&C
Judging from his REALLY stupid one-hour speech after the budget, Froon was particularly stung by Mia’s disclosure of the Hall Gollop highway robbery. It hurt him to the core….
One wonders why…?
Perhaps, if he is so attached to Gollop, he can find out for Bushie what is the background to the visit to Mrs Smith just prior to her disappearance and subsequent murder – by Hal and an accomplice of his…..
Bushie does not believe is any shiite coincidences…
…or perhaps Carson has that information….. Cause it does not seem as if the authorities are particularly concerned about getting to the bottom of this mystery murder.
@ WW&C
Don’t mind Cadogan, Mottley said she does not have any plans to legislate same sex marriages, so he is now scraping the bottom of the barrel with this homosexuality shiite.
However, Cadogan should be very careful that his homophobic comments in this forum do not cause members of the so called “homosexual community” to expose all the closet bullers and wickers in the DLP.
We have to remind Carson that, within the context of the Bible, stealing and homosexuality are both sinful acts.
I would also ask Carson to remind his colleague to contemplate and take example from Leviticus 6 v 1-7:
The Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “If anyone sins and commits a breach of faith against the Lord by DECEIVING his NEIGHBOR in a MATTER of DEPOSIT or SECURITY, or through robbery, or if he has OPPRESSED his NEIGHBOR or has FOUND SOMETHING LOST and LIED about it, SWEARING FALSELY—in any of all the things that people do and sin thereby— if he has sinned and has realized his guilt and will restore what he took by robbery or what he got by oppression or the deposit that was committed to him or the lost thing that he found or anything about which he has sworn falsely, he shall restore it in full and shall add a fifth to it, and give it to him to whom it belongs on the day he realizes his guilt. ..”
And it came to pass that a certain man, a colleague of Carson, was given a deposit to hold for his neighbor. When the man’s neighbor asked for his deposit, the man committed a breach by deceiving his neighbor and lied about it, swearing falsely.
Although that man realized his guilt, he refused to “restore what he took by robbery or what he got by oppression or the deposit that was committed to him or the lost thing that he found or anything about which he has sworn falsely…”
The neighbor brought the man before the synagogues and the rulers and the authorities, who immediately realized the man’s guilt and ordered him to restore (the deposit) in full and shall add a fifth to it (interest).
WW&C tell Carson if he is without sin, cast the first stone.
When Hal went to the Smith home with Vernon and a police(that is what the AG Braffit would say)Marcelle ordered them out of her house…and Vernon took up a chair to hit Marcelle and was restrained from so doing.He was fit to be hogtied.Another mothballed story awaiting its day in court.Maybe the DPP would act soon and before Mia take over Stellaro Court because since Hal challenging her to speak,she might just do so when the time is right.
Hal Gollop was engaged by the BWA, worked exclusively for the BWA and was paid directly by the BWA. Innotech, the private sector partner had their own lawyers, Clark, Gittens & Farmer and the funders, Ansa Merchant Bank had their own lawyers, Chancery Chambers.
How much in fees did the lawyers cream from this one transaction?
Bushman…the should all be locked up for Mrs. Smith, and that includes Carson….a whole lot of vile demons.
Art…even if she does, so what, Ireland has it’s first openly gay PM…do you see anyone protesting, not even the idiot Ha, Ha Austin, who wont dare open his mouth for fear of being kicked out of the UK for homophobia..
Mia might want to use her brain unlike Adriel Nitwit to at least decriminalize marijuana for medical and other uses, many people like myself who suffer from issues that require such treatments would be happy, instead of having to travel to Europe or North America because the Barbados government insists on being backward, ignorant and useless, she should also run on that platform…medical marijuana…
Carson is a wuss, a loser.
Pacha…these are the lowlife scum and stains on the earth that Ha, Ha Austin woukd be more likely to worship.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-mother-royal-family-sir-roy-strong-diarist-racist-too-awful-a7774011.html
Cant help himself, the mind of a hated slave. Read the comments made by brits and others across the globe.
Too many black men ain’t ready yet.
Donville already told them DLP is infested with gay people…so Carson should really sit down.
Carson….and up to this day Fruendel nor Adriel lock up Mia or call in DPP to lock up vote buyers.
@Carson C. Cadogan June 5, 2017 at 2:23 PM “the HON. DR. DENNIS LOWE in the House.”
Dear Carson:
Since Dr. the Hon. Dennis Lowe received his post secondary education in the United States can you tell me please whether the university/universities attended by Dr. the Hon. Dennis Lowe is/are accredited by one of these bona fide accrediting bodies and if so which one/which ones. Can you ask him as well to make his transcript/transcripts documents of the House? Thanks.
https://ope.ed.gov/accreditation/
@Bernard Codrington. June 5, 2017 at 2:27 PM “The religions that are alleged to have come to us from the Middle East.”
Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Rastafarianism were ALL BORN the Middle East (the most peaceful region on Earth, NOT) this is not a mere allegation. This is not something made up by a mere simpleton like me. It is the absolute TRUTH.
Think, think, think Bernie.
@Carson C. Cadogan June 5, 2017 at 2:37 PM “Trump picks Christian pro-life conservative to replace homosexual as Army Secretary”
I am NOT a Christian pro-life conservative because I first heard about illegal abortions when my mother first told me of one of our neighbours who tried to end her fourth pregnancy by eating rat poison, her husband had run off to America and left her…it worked, it killed the fetus, and the young mother, and left her 3 children parent-less orphans to suffer terribly because you Christian pro-life conservatives are not about to take in 3 orphans and use your own time and especially your own money to raise 3 strange children to adulthood.
You. Trump and Mark have never had to decide whether to eat rat poison or raise 4 children alone, so you can afford to talk sh!te.
Well Well,
I know persons who have been charged between twenty and thirty thousand dollars for operations.. I know persons who have had to pay thousands of dollars for kidney stones, and also had to pay over a thousand dollars for subsequent visits. So don’t tell me foolishness, and this is not for being under contract to government. These were private visits.
Interesting:
if the Innate
“How is it that according to you: “Clarke Gittens Farmer deserved every cent they charged as they drafted ALL the documents including the documents that Gollop claims he prepared and even tried to save the government funds then sent the bill to BWA that is another story.”…deserved every cent they charged Inotech, a private company,
but Hal Gollop does not deserve what he charged? Do you know what was involved? Gallop charged for HIS services, not what Gittens and Farmer charged Infotech for THEIR services. Should Gollop just have accepted what was presented to government without conducting his own searches etc? Why did Gittens etc, have to do their own work? If they presented a bill to Innotech wouldn’t the costs have been passed on to government?
Simple Simon:
You said: “I have no use for those religions born in the Middle East.”
Where was Jesus supposed to have been born. Where did he do his preachings? Where did Saul have his conversion? Where did he preach? Where was Christianity “born”?
In the light of the above, how can you make the above statement and have any credibility?
You people are just making noise for the sake of making noise.
When Mia wqaas attorney General OSA had two occasions he should have used to ask for her resignation. The Supervisor of insurance knew that the Insurance companies were not adhering to the financial requirements for the funds that they were required to deposit annually. thus when CLICO began to collapse he should have brought this to her attention and she should have acted before the collapse. In addition, she had been warned by Rev. MATTHEWS OF THE PROBLEM TAKING PLACE AT THE PRISON. AS A CONSEQUENCE OF HER INACTION, THERE WAS A RIOT at the prison, GLENDAIRY was burnt ou., Under her watch a new prison was commissioned and the government has been saddled with a bill that requires an annual payment of over 17 million dollars for a number of years. In other jurisdictions, following the same Westminster model, her resignation would have been expected. Edutech is another matter, this happened when she wasMinister of Education, another complete failure.
Denis Lowe told the TV audience during his alloted slot on the budget that he is from Cane Garden,St Andrew and later his family moved to Whitehill in the same parish.He also said he went to primary school and did not go to secondary school.One can say then that Lowe by his own admission, had no post secondary education.If he had any education it would have to be post primary and his notorious statement in 2008 as minister in charge of waterworks”when a pipe burses” leaves no one in doubt as to his bona fides,post primary-wise.
@Alvin Cummins June 5, 2017 at 5:37 PM “Where was Jesus supposed to have been born. Where did he do his preachings? Where did Saul have his conversion? Where did he preach? Where was Christianity “born”
Question: Where was Jesus supposed to have been born.
Answer: The Middle East.
Question: Where did he do his preachings?
Answer: The Middle East.
Question: Where did Saul [the arch misogynist] have his conversion?
Answer: The Middle East.
Question:Where did he preach?
Answer: The Middle East.
Question: Where was Christianity “born”
Answer: The Middle East.
You really think that because you throw in a few Jesus’ that I will back off from what I have written?
Silly old man.
Sorry David. I know I ain’t supposed to call other contributors silly.
David,
For what it is worth, the total submitted on the Invoice should be 1.5 million, (1,499,000,00).and not the 3.5 Million shown on the invoice as the final amount. The invoice should have been rejected and should have been questioned. The clerk should have had this drawn to his attention. In my day the Audit office would have caught this out and the department would have had questions asked.
SS, Rastafarianism was not a known religion at this time; it stills not.
Gabriel June 5, 2017 at 5:40 PM “Denis Lowe told the TV audience during his alloted slot on the budget that he is from Cane Garden,St Andrew and later his family moved to Whitehill in the same parish.He also said he went to primary school and did not go to secondary school.One can say then that Lowe by his own admission, had no post secondary education”
I am no friend of Lowe. Never met the man, but cuddear, since it appears that he spent some years in the U.S., even without a Barbados secondary education he may well have done his GED in the States and received his high equivalency diploma from there and then went on to a college or university there, even to a doctoral degree.
Many Bajans and Caribbean people have done the same.
So cuhdear give Jack and Dennis their jackets.
But I did wonder whether he failed the 11+ and whether if he had whether that means anything.
Alvin Cummins June 5, 2017 at 5:56 PM “SS, Rastafarianism was not a known religion at this time; it stills not.”
You understand how religion works right?
Christianity was born out of Judaism.
Islam was born out of Judaism and Christianity.
Rastafarianism was born out of Judaism and Christianity.
All of these religions share common roots.
Some people call them Abrahamic religions.
Get it?
Simple Simon,
You are the one who said the words not me. You said “you have no use…..” I am just showing you how sill you are. Either you do not believe in christianity or you do, if you do then your statement is silly.
SS,
All arguments about Religion(s) is a complete waste of time and energy. Too many people have been killed, and have died in the name of one religion or the other, snd to die, in the name of one religion; with the expectation of getting virgins, is as silly as the expectation of living in some paradise; on judgement day; which presupposes the end of eternity. This is as silly. All religion requires brainwashing of some kind.
@SSS
The Lowe hardly went to primary school,was a wicked boy in cane garden up to the time he was taken to the USA
Alvin Cummins June 5, 2017 at 8:15 AM “Physicians charge exorbitant fees; and have been for years, over 30,000 for operations, high fees for subsequent follow up visits.”
My physician charges $90 BDS for an office visit. I do not consider this to be exorbitant.
I have had surgery at the QEH “free” to me, but I am certain that it was more than paid for
by the hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes which I have paid over the years, and which I still continue to pay, as well as the taxes of my parents, siblings and children.
Alvin…30, 000 and up to 250,000 for surgery is acceptable in any country as well as fir other services…….. 1.5 million and 3.3 million….is ni0ot, why dont you reaid the posts properly.
1.5 million and 3.3 million….are not, why dont you read the posts properly….before answering.
David,
When Richard Byer invoiced for over seven hundred dollars, he was a member of the NDP, not the DLP. The money allegedly paid to Thompson was in fact an invoice on behalf of Leroy, Parris, for commissions due to said Leroy Parris, which was directed to Thompson, who was legal counsel for said Parris. the invoice was not for work Thompson did for CLICO. This was discussed, argued about and dragged through the mud; as a campaign issue, during the 2008 election. That sticks in your craw since then. It is now a non-issue, as it was then.
David;
Typographical error…seven hundred thousand dollars…
Well Well,
Have you ever seen the fees charged in North America by lawyers, for services rendered? I have, and I have a good friend who worked for a bit law firm, and another friend who was secretary to a lawyer wh dealt in real estate. I know what I am talking about.
Simple,
Having paid “hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes over the year, why did you take advantage of “free” care at the QEH, when it is obvious that you were aBLE TO PAY.That is the problem. too many people who can afford to pay, take advantage of the “free” health care, and other things Who is your physician? The minimum physicians charge for an office visit today is one hundred and twenty dollars. By the way what religion did people outside of the Middle East follow before Judaism?
Simple Simon at 5:17 pm
They came to us via Europe where they were modified to make sense to the European.
But all this is academic. It is more important for us to understand them as they relate to our own present 21 St century situation.
And you should know by now that there is no absolute truth. If there is, none of us can claim ours is the absolute truth.
Well Well,
No one is talking of physicians charging millions for operations. Lawyers do. If you read a book called Barbarians at the Gate, you would get a good idea of the types of fees lawyers, working in the U.S. charge for their services you would not adopt the attitude you do. this book was written about the merger; between Nabisco and RJR Reynolds. Tens of millions were charged, by the lawyers in those negotiations, and they were paid.
We know that the NDP did not contest any elections following its 1994 one seat win.We will have to rely on William to confirm if the party was yet active in 2010 when Byer sent his invoice to CBL.
A reminder of the issue of the exorbitant invoice as told by Emmanuel Joseph of Bdos Today.
http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2014/11/20/cave-lows/
@Alvin Cummins June 5, 2017 at 7:27 PM “Having paid “hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes over the year, why did you take advantage of “free” care at the QEH, when it is obvious that you were aBLE TO PAY.”
Because I have already paid through my taxes, so why should I pay twice?
Because the care is just as excellent whether I am on a public or private ward.
Because the doctors who are delivering public care need experiences which are as broad as possible so i granted them the opportunity to work on my body.
Because when the middle class withdraws from receiving public services soon enough they ask to withdraw their tax money from such services.
Because I have raised a few of the doctors, nurses, orderlies,maids and lab techs who work there. I have babysat more than a few of them for no pay, washed their clothes, cleaned their bottoms, wiped their vomit and snot. A good lot of them have eaten out of my pot too, so they owe me. lol!!!
Because I am not a poor great poppit.
Because I did not feel like paying.
Because I am still contributing personally and through my taxes and my care giving to the raising of the next generation.
Because I did not feel like paying
Because I could
Because…
“Mottley said she does not have any plans to legislate same sex marriages”
When did she/he say that?
Up to this day she/he is dodging the question.
Carson
Donville told you’ll about that all ready, remember? He said the DLP has it fair share of homosexuals and lesbians so don’t push that angle partner. If you do a few on the front bench going get drag out of the closet and into the daylight.
@Alvin Cummins June 5, 2017 at 8:19 PM “between Nabisco and RJR Reynolds. Tens of millions were charged, by the lawyers in those negotiations, and they were paid.”
The difference Alvin, is that the people who are buying and selling Nabisco and RJR Reynolds and the lawyers who serve them are all members of the 1% operating in a huge and abundantly wealthy market place.
Because Alvin the average wage in Barbados is less than $30,000 BDS per year, so why would lawyers feel entitled to charge million dollars fees when they know very well that their pay masters are trying to buy food, pay rent and utilities, and raise children on less than $15,000 USD per year?
Barbados ain’t Canada.
Barbados ain’t the USA.
The Bajan taxpayers ain’t the owners of Nabisco or RJR Reynolds
And in spite of these heavy fees paid out of tax payers/water users money, the Barbados Water Authority is still unable to deliver piped drinking drinking water to all families every day.
So what are the high lawyer fees all about?
Should the big money not be going to ensure that the infrastructure is such that everybody can get clean piped water everyday, instead of paying big fees to a select few?
@ Bernard
And you should know by now that there is no absolute truth. If there is, none of us can claim ours is the absolute truth.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Boss, something is seriously wrong with the logic of this statement.
If there is no absolute truth, then how can SS ‘know this by now” (or at all)?
..and if there IS an absolute truth, how can you KNOW that none of us can claim ours to be it?
Speak for yourself boss…
It IS an absolute truth that JFK was murdered in Dallas Texas.
Hardly anyone alive can claim to know the ‘absolute truth’ of that matter…
The various theories that abound are all very likely to be different to THE TRUTH…
But there IS a single, absolute, definite TRUTH surrounding that JFK issue…. as there is surrounding the experience we call ‘Life on Earth’….. and just as only a VERY FEW select persons know the truth of the JKF assassination, so too, only a special SELECT few are privy to the “absolute truth”….
…and both these ‘select’ groups of ‘knowers’ would likely be closely associated with the original instigators….
Alvin…I am well aware of lawyer’s fee schedules in the US, ya cannot compare the fly by night lawyers in Bim….with corporate lawyers in the US who work for multi national world class companies worldwide.
@Carson C. Cadogan June 5, 2017 at 8:49 PM “Mottley said she does not have any plans to legislate same sex marriages” “When did she/he say that?”
Dear Carson:
Ms. Mottley said that in the House of Assembly on Monday 29th May, 2017. Don’t thank me. I am always extremely happy to help my fellow bloggers
https://www.barbadosadvocate.com/news/mottley-same-sex-marriage-not-blp%E2%80%99s-agenda
The Barbados Labour Party has no plans to change local laws to allow for the introduction of same-sex marriage in Barbados, once elected as the Government of Barbados.
Opposition Leader Mia Mottley cleared the air on this issue on Monday night, as she delivered her reply to the 2017 Financial Statement and Budgetary Proposals in the House of Assembly.
“This notion that you want to foist on the (Barbados) Labour Party, something about same-sex marriages, is nonsense. I have said in this Chamber before that no 30 people in this country can get in here and deal with rights issues, whether it is the decriminalisation of marijuana, whether it is capital punishment or whether it is same-sex marriages,” Mottley remarked.
“There are people who support and are gays on that side and on this side and the Member for St. James South (Donville Inniss) made that clear and these are rights issues,” she contended.
“Our role is to facilitate governance in this country. But I can say to you without fear of contradiction, that this Barbados Labour Party as a government will never do it, because it is not the role of the government to do such,” the Opposition Leader stressed.
Alvin….just to educate you on how billing is done in the US by attorneys and law firms…they bill in 15 minute increments…corporate lawyers who work for large corporations would have stock options…even CEOs, presidents managing directors and VPs …these people’s salaries are not large, but their stock options, insurance and bonuses are huge.
They surely dont get a 1.5 million dollar check for attending a few meetings, they actually have to work and produce for that kind of money.
You would do anything to justify theft of taxpayers money.
And I dont have to check anything out, I spent years in the middle of it.
Alvin Cummins June 5, 2017 at 7:14 PM #
The money allegedly paid to Thompson was in fact an invoice on behalf of Leroy, Parris, for commissions due to said Leroy Parris, which was directed to Thompson, who was legal counsel for said Parris. The invoice was not for work Thompson did for CLICO. This was discussed, argued about and dragged through the mud; as a campaign issue, during the 2008 election. That sticks in your craw since then. It is now a non-issue, as it was then.”
@ Alvin Cummins
You either have been misinformed about the $3.333M invoice or you are purposely being dishonest.
The “invoice” was for services rendered in connection with: The Purchase of Sam Lord’s Castle and related properties; Purchase of Grant’s Hotel Limited Shareholding; Litigation Involving Marriotts Corporation and its Successors; Litigation involving Abarco Inc.
Maurice King’s name was also mentioned on the “invoice,” relative to providing legal services $250,000. King was quick to disassociate himself with the transaction by making it known he did not provide the services as the stated on the said invoice.
Sorry to disappoint you Alvin, but it is still an issue, especially to the members of BAICO.
@ Gabriel
By 2010 the NDP was long gone. You are correct. It is highly believed that in 1999, the NDP kind of supported the BLP /Arthur. It was claimed that the BLP had embraced many of the NDP’s policies.
For the record, I was not active in the party at that time.
Alvin, the $3.3m invoice was a fake. Parris claimed it was for a bonus he was due, so why did it not say so, and instead list fees for work by others that was never done. It was a fake invoice (poorly) created by Thompson on his PC at home and emailed out. The evidence is all there, dicovered by the Judicial Manager and it is an ongoing case the the DPP is not being allowed to follow up for obvious reasons. Judge Chandler had the balls to freeze Parris’ assets to that value (slightly more in fact) and to this day, the Court has not heard the appeal to unfreeze. So you see, it IS still an issue and will continue to be. The evidence is all there in the Forensic Report which is now public document. Parris’ ass will be got eventually, though many say that won’t be a new experience…..