Do you know how difficult it is to get into Bronx Science or Stuyvesant, you have to be exceptional to be even allowed to take the test, these are not the only ones, there are a few other, then there are the ultra ivy league schools that the child is sent away from the parents when they have exceptional abilities, Ping, don’t even try to compare this to 11+ that is like comparing ackees to watermelons, there is just no comparison.

Ping…………….they are called specialized for a reason.

Well well

Don’t you think you can give us a freakin break from your constant postings.

Right now there are about 14 messages on the board and 10 are yours.Please man,give us a break and find something to do.I am not going to read your postings but I think it is a shame that you feel the need to purge yourself that often and hog the show.

Enough already woman.

Well Well | May 8, 2013 at 8:39 PM |
GP………………You continue to prove my point, you are light years ahead in education in the Caribbean but own very few businesses in Barbados, so the other islands obviously have something that you do not although you are light years ahead in education………..

CANT YOU SEE THAT YOUR POST IS A NON SEQUITUR?

ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE PURPOSE FOR EDUCATION IS TO HAVE MULTIPLE BUSINESSES IN BARBADOS?

THE SAME CLASS OF PEOPLE THAT OWN BUSINESSES IN THE ISLANDS ARE THE SAME CLASS THAT OWN BUSINESS IN BARBADOS

In our 2006 pre-election manifesto, the PDC promulgated ( and since then a few revisions would have been made to them) the philosophy and policy of specialised secondary schools for Barbados, whereby such schools themselves would have to fall under specialised academies, each specifically arranged, et al, to instruct and elicit skills and abilities from among the particular student populations in the divisions of languages, business, sciences, technical/vocational, technological studies within the entire secondary school system.

Of much importance in the structure of this philosophy/policy has been that every school and academy must have a number of basic core courses: English and a foreign language of the student’s/parent’s choice (swahili, chinese, german, spanish, etc.): Caribbean and African History: Business development, etc.

And of importance too in that regard has been that each academy/school must have to attach itself to a government approved teaching business in which the academy/school’s specialty is more actionalized than theorized.

The teaching business is to be structured to allow students to learn business as it is done at various levels ( administration/management of partnerships/sales and marketing/accounting/business law, etc) and then be assessed by the teaching business based on their strengths and weaknesses in the particular areas

A student in the secondary school system would be permitted to leave – with the parent’s/guardian’s and the Division of Education’s’ consents – the secondary school that he or she would have been enrolled in for the past 3 or so years, and to go and be on contract as an apprentice partner in the teaching business that would be collaborating with the particular academy, so that he or she would be in positions to learn the ropes of business in whatever areas the business would be functioning in and with a view of establishing their own businesses in the future. The parents/guardians and Division of Education will be given reports on the apprentices’ business performances. These apprentices will receive Associate Degrees in Business Administration from these businesses at the end of their programs.

They will be remunerated by the partnership that would be managing the entire business of the government of the people viz-a-viz the Division of Education, every weekly or biweekly for the entire duration they are there at the businesses.

Finally, with such and other relevant social political legal material changes and incentives and symbioses coming into existence in this country, eg the creation of a post-TAXATION society for Barbados, it would clearly be the intention of a coalition government of which the PDC would be a part of to bring into existence a long overdue new entrepreneurial class for Barbados, seeing that without these types of changes there will never be this urgently needed new vibrant energetic entrepreneurial class for the country.

PDC

Studies on Race and Intelligence

The Global Bell Curve

Richard Lynn’s new book shows that in many multi-racial countries, people of Jewish and East Asian ancestry average highest in IQ and socio-economic position, Whites next highest, South Asians and Hispanics next highest, and people of African descent consistently average at lower levels. Lynn argues that the average population group differences in socio-economic position (education levels, earnings, welfare dependency) are due to their average differences in intelligence. Since these differences also translate into fertility patterns, with the lowest IQ populations having more children, the specter of a dysgenic future is raised.

East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans) (Average IQ of 105)
Europeans (Average IQ 100)
South East Asians (Average IQ 87)
North Africans (Average IQ of 84)
Sub-Saharan Africans (Average IQ of 67)
Australian Aborigines (Average IQ of 62)

Afro-Caribbeans in the UK score similarly on IQ tests to US blacks.
– Wikipedia.

Low IQs are Africa’s curse, says lecturer
Researcher accused of promoting racist stereotype wins backing from LSE – uk NEWS.

Playboy Magazine of Aug. 1980 carried an interview with Dr. Shockley.
Dr. William Shockley is a professor at Stanford University in Calif. Basically the following constitute his views after many years of painstaking study and research.
Quote :
1) Historically, blacks have an I.Q. 15 points lower than that of the average White. The difference is due to heredity and not environment.

2) Positive traits found in high I.Q. people include honesty, resistance to cheating and physical capacity. It takes such good traits to develop and maintain a good society.

3) Parents who have high I.Q.s have high I.Q. children and the opposite is true for those with low I.Q.s.

4) We live in a Dark Age dogmatism which blocks objective studies of the I.Q. differences which exist.

5) Low I.Q. blacks and Mexicans are outbreeding Whites. This element is the major cause of poverty, crime and unemployment and a host of other human miseries that impose heavy burdens on society. Today we are breeding problem makers instead of problem solvers . People with the low I.Q. of ’80 make up a majority of the prison population of America. (Average White I.Q. is 105).

6) Low I.Q. blacks are bearing twice as many children as Whites and Aid to Dependent Children is doubling every 10 years. Thus it will be 1,000 times higher than it was 20 years ago in a century, creating a burden society cannot bear.

7) Negroes’ intellectual and social deficits are hereditary and racially genetic. Thus, they are not remediable by improving their environment. Negroes are genetically enslaved to a life of frustration and may be the root cause of urban decay. It is possible that welfare mothers have babies to increase their income.

8) Negroes have a spouse killing spouse mortality rate 13 times higher than Whites. A young black male in Harlem is more than 100 times more likely to be a homicide victim than a White male in Denmark.

Black People are Less Intelligent, Says Dr. James Watson, Nobel Prize Winner and DNA Pioneer.
Dr. Watson said in an interview with the Sunday Times that he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours—whereas all the testing says not really.”

CNN online also reports:

In the newspaper interview, he said there was no reason to think that races which had grown up in separate geographical locations should have evolved identically. He went on to say that although he hoped everyone was equal, “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true.”

Harvard Law Student: Possible That ‘African Americans Are, On Average, Genetically Predisposed To Be Less Intelligent’

Quote:
I absolutely do not rule out the possibility that African Americans are, on average, genetically predisposed to be less intelligent. I could also obviously be convinced that by controlling for the right variables, we would see that they are, in fact, as intelligent as white people under the same circumstances. The fact is, some things are genetic. African Americans tend to have darker skin. Irish people are more likely to have red hair.

Quote:
Everyone wants someone to take 100 white infants and 100 African American ones and raise them in Disney utopia and prove once and for all that we are all equal on every dimension, or at least the really important ones like intelligence. I am merely not 100% convinced that this is the case.
-Huffington Post First Posted: 06/28/10 .

HOW CAN OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM RESOLVE THIS ?
DO YOU THINK THESE STUDIES ARE RACIST?
ARE THESE STUDIES BOGUS?

http://youtu.be/ytx1pdaQ6Ho?t=1m52s

Based on media reports Minister Ronald Jones has said that he will not be rushing to change the CEE any time soon. Clyde Mascoll in his column opines that the CEE is the best way to assign students to secondary based on merit.

So there!

The key point here is how does one remove the subjectivity of implementing ‘continuous assessment’ if there is not a homogenous standard/measurement for allocating students. It is fine to say we need to change but nobody is discussing the how.

There seems to be a situation where many of those people who strongly believe in this school tie thing also strongly believe in the retention of this old antiquated backward unfair thing called the CEE.

Thus when it comes to objective criticisms of the CEE it becomes very difficult for them to assimilate the facts surrounding this ignorance called the CEE partly as a result of their emotions about this and that school being good and not the next, the sentimental nostalgia they harbour about some of the personal experiences that they gained at the schools that – could anyone imagine – they left many moons ago, the friendships they continue to treasure from school days, etc. – which are good things in themselves – but which whenever they are partly the basis for the making of certain business, political, financial, social decisions in certain places in Barbados by some of those same strong believers in the school tie, do show why – to some extent – the country is being so seriously run down into the ground.

PDC

you mean Jones and Mascoll agree with Bushie…??
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Is there any better example of great minds thinking alike than Jones and Mascoll finding common ground with Bushie on the CEE? I am tempted to be less charitable and write that fools seldom differ but then the blog master might ban me so I will take the high road.

Progress is a strange thing someone once told me a joke about a man who rejected the “water closet” and kept the backyard pit because everytime he did a number the water splashed on his botsy. 🙂

In my view Jones is actually being pragmatic and i hope realizing that he actually hit the nail right on the head regarding why the 11+ should be reaccessed, all kids differ in the way the absorb education, some are quicker at digesting and regurgitation, some are slower but more analytical, etc. etc. this should not be taken lightly. He has made a good argument why all kids should not be lumped together for a few hours of testing only to be later labeled as the brightest or the dunciest which will forever impact their lives on such a small incestuous rock.
http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/jones-say-on-11-plus/

No common sense………………….if all you can do is count my posts, you do not have any common sense…………

Akuno…………….i have come to realize that the people who are suicidally guarding and defending the 11+ would also be the descendants of the slaves who suicidally tried to stop slavery from ending, caused the lynchings of their own people by ratting out to the slave masters, and also caused the deaths of white people who were trying to free them from slavery. Small wonder that the testing of the black IQ continue to register such poor and low results…….

Bushy……………….i am surprised at you but all the people you now say are brown-nosers, incompetent, inadequate, low intellect………….tell me, did they not all take the common entrance exam? you need to explain to me why they are in such a state of not being able to effectively think for themselves?

David…………………the workers from the Minister of Education back down are being paid a salary by the taxpayers to devise ways and means for the children of the island to have the necessary tools they will need for an ever changing world……………..it is not the jobs of some permanent secretaries to be rude and sassy to the public, or the jobs of the others either to hide scholarship opportunities available to members of the public because their family and friends should benefit…………..they are the ones being paid to develop innovative testing that will benefit all levels of intellect and skills in our children.

As to Jones’ reasons for taking time to reaccess the 11+ i hope he takes into consideration that just as not all schools do preparations or testing etc, etc, at the same time……………so too all kids should not be tested at the same levels and certainly not at the same time…………they should not all be lumped together under the umbrella of one stress test.

Gabriel……………………………you forgot the filament for the light bulb that is used across the world……………a black man who worked with Thomas Edison in Jersey developed this, he never got the credit or patents for it, without the filament, we would not have lighting as we know it…………..the company is known as Con ED to New Yorkers……………

No Common Sense……………….i hope you are keeping score of the amount of posts i send today, would not want you to lose count now……have to keep a total jackass employed. I will go out later, but will be back so you can continue counting. Counting posts, have you ever?…………….

@Parados,
You are spreading false information and misleading. I will answer yu on your claim that the Government is not leading in the fight . Further it is not the job of ‘Government to advertise Hybrid vehicles. It iis the job of the individual car dealers to advertis their vehicles. Again in defense of government, didn’t the Government (BLP) try to begin the process of utilizing Batural gas as an alternative fuel? I seem to remember a number of the vehicles owned by BNOC indicating they wer run on natural gas. As usual I might be wrong. In addition didn’t the present government install a number of solar panels on the roof of the Public Works department and begin generating electricity for that department? Drive down pine east west road an look and see. Didn’t they install a number of solar panels on street lights as part of the pilot projects? Didn the government (present) establish a seperate department under the aegis of the Prime Minisster’s office to deal with the switch to alternative energy? Didn’t the present government just last month advertise for tenders for the installation of solar panels on a number of homes (Closing date for tenders June 13th)/Dhy do people like you want “instant” gratification? All the wishes in the world cannot bring a baby to birth before its time. Under normal circumstances it takes nine months, and you have to wait until then to get a beautiful baby. Be patient.

Miller…………….ya killing me

What is scary about No Common Sense is that he/she/shim actually is taking the time out to count the posts, with, according to he/she/shim no intentions of reading it mind you, but counting it, and with no intentions of contributing…………….I have been here all morning wondering if i should ask he/she/shim if they took the common entrance, then they would certainly be making my point of view stronger for re-accessing and/or making changes or scrapping the exam all together if that is what the island, assuming is someone from Bim, is producing……………this person is scary. Imagine someone sitting all day on the computer just counting posts………….talk about psycho central. Jeesh!!!

@ Alvin Cummins | May 9, 2013 at 11:20 AM
“Further it is not the job of ‘Government to advertise Hybrid vehicles. It iis the job of the individual car dealers to advertis their vehicles..”

We couldn’t agree with you more! Government should not be in the business of advertising or promoting any individual commercial product or business entity. But what it must especially do is to establish policies that support a particular developmental path. It should concern itself with creating the type of environment through taxation options and economic incentives to facilitate private sector players who would wish to follow this path set by our elected officials, i.e., the people’s representatives.

Let us use, for illustration as you have done, the alternative energy policies and programmes being pushed by the government and pose a question to you, Alvin.
Can you explain how this administration could have granted major tax concessions and incentives in this day and age to a mainly foreign owned retail business in one of the more established economic activities of importing and selling food and household products (forex consuming instead of earning) without requiring the same ‘new kid on the old and tattered consuming block’ to at least buy into the government alternative energy programme and ‘green’ economy policies?
Why did this administration not insist that Cost-U-Less (CUL) install some solar panels on the roof of the building or put up a small windmill to generate some electricity to at least provide lighting for the compound?

We know this might be a bit too much of a ‘burning’ issue for you to handle but give us a shock by at least defending this blatant oversight on the government’s part. But remember this whole alternative energy propaganda goes back to even BLP administration (as you pointed out) so don’t insult our intelligence by saying the decision to grant these massively unbelievable inducements to CUL was made before the so-called green economy was part of government’s agenda. Remember also Government is a continuum and only the political actors are temporary.

BTW everytime these corporations improve or upgrade the business the cost is passed on to the customerv .U thinkn it is FREE……shitt

Ah just hear that somebody went to Parkinson School and assaulted Jeff Broomes
Say it aint so !

Miller……………..as i just posted on another thread, Canada is mobilizing to spend millions from now to the next 5 years to find all those tax dollars hidden in the Caribbean, heard Bim got the largest amount $57 billion, that’s a lot of moola.

Hants……………..yes i realize that, but I have the feeling if the legal entities who are using the tax havens have 57 billion, you can guarantee the dodgers have maybe double or triple that amount.

@ac

Your 1.55 pm May 9, 2013 post is bang on, from the point of view of the incremental approach that is used by some persons within and without government in Barbados to create bigger more unwieldy more impersonal government in the country.

The bigger more unwieldy more inefficient more unrational the government becomes the more the imbalance between individual rights and liberties and the power of the government becomes more skewed in favour of the government.

The government of Barbados wickedly stealing more and more of the incomes, payments and transfers of the relevant people, businesses and other entities and calling it TAXATION is a prime example of the majority of people of Barbados being hounded and pounded more and more by government as they lost more and more income, payments and transfers to TAXATION over time.

PDC

If alternative energy is a strategic priority of the government then we need to see and feel the energy from them as far as passing the required legislation to make feeding the grid a realistic exercise. It cannot be a strategy for our survival and sustainability but we leave it to the whims and fancy of consumers. This is do or die time!

@PDC

Your contribution like Mascoll’s and other commenters is subjective and anecdotal. We need to see greater evaluation measurement analysis to help public discourse.

Is there not an FTC hearing on the subject today at Sherbourne?