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Todayโ€™s announcement that Barbados sovereign credit rating has been downgraded to BB+/B from BBB-/A-3 is unfortunate. There is no consolation that we have been bundled with several European countries who have earned junk bond rating.

Dr. Frank Alleyne made a statement which resonated with the BU household on the weekend. He opined that a major problem driving our public debt is structural. He suggested successive governments have not addressed the problem. They preferred instead to be politically expedient. BU prefers to focus on a reality that in the boom years we did not solidify our economic fundamentals. One clear example was building out an economy with no concern to diversify our energy base. Another, we encouraged rampant consumption expenditure fed in the 1995-2007 period especially.

What is unfortunate is that with a general election on the horizon, the opportunity for serious public discussion and earth moving decisions will not be top of mind for government. What we have though is partisan political chatter now that Barbados has attained junk bond rating.ย  The opportunity for government to distil the arguments has now gotten even more difficult. BU must harp on the point that the government has to be coherent and cohesive in the way it articulates its strategy i.e. what it has achieved to date, in the near term and what it hopes to achieve.

BU commends the government – some missteps notwithstanding – for introducing reform in the energy sector at a time when the fiscal space for doing so is as narrow as it has ever been. BU has posited many times that in boom times one must prepare for the bust; we did not. Unfortunately there is a dearth of leadership and consequently a lack of vision. Where Barbados finds itself today is as a result of all the myopic policies on the last 20 years.

What BU regrets most after listening and reading the commentary which followed the S&P downgrade and Governor Worrellโ€™s press conference is that we have a opposition party in waiting which has not had to do much to regain popularity. BU remembers during the boom time questioning the former governmentโ€™s expansive strategy of debt accumulation through off balance sheet transactions.

Many have started to question if the boom period of the late 90s up to 2007 was manufactured. We have all been following the news with horror how reputable banks have rigged LIBOR rates.ย  We have also been following the story about oil price rigging, again by reputable entities. It maybe of interest that many of these malpractices occurred in the period of 2003 to 2005, at the height of the boom years which Barbados enjoyed.


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307 responses to “Barbados Economic Misfortune Was Guaranteed”


  1. @Anthony

    Understand that the downgrade by S&P will have implications for existing arrangements and even private investors. BI is trying to make a higher level point that we have been a country sinking under a debt burden for a long time now, the global meltdown has exposed it. In the coming weeks and months you will observe other countries going pop goes the weasel.


  2. So the question is what is the dept to GDP after the NIS dept is included … 115% maybe …?


  3. @BAFBFP

    Barbados is up there 120+ in looks like:

    http://m.guardian.co.tt/business-guardian/2012-07-04/sovereign-debt-regional-perspective

    With the exception of St. Kitts Barbados seem to be leading all others in the Caribbean:

    http://www.eccb-centralbank.org/Statistics/index.asp


  4. S&P has downgraded because it wanted MORE AUSTERITY, a faster pace of fiscal adjustment. What intrigues me about the violent reaction to the downgrade is that the majority of opinion is BIM has been critical of the administration for following austerity.

    1. The majority of fiscal adjustment measures proposed and implemented by the current administration have been rubbished and even vigorously opposed by the opposition, the nation newspaper and this blog. The persistent call has been for an even weaker fiscal stance to allow more local spending. Interesting that these same groups are now latching on to the downgrade as proof of failure of government policy.

    a. there has been ongoing and violent opposition to the ending of the fuel subsidy. Surely in the near to medium term at least continuing the fuel subsidy would have pushed up the deficit and debt. well maybe the downgrade would have come earlier.

    b. there was major opposition to the attempt to cut expenditure with the drug service and care at the QEH (remember the move to generics and the issue with non-nationals);

    c. there has been major and ongoing opposition to attempts to manage the costs of UWI. the government has been accused of playing games and starving uwi of money (remember the focus on reducing the number of lower level matriculation students at uwi (students who should really be at bcc or sixth form) again reiterated in the budget.

    d. the increase in VAT and taxing of allowances have been continuously rubbished.

    2. Reading their document S&P seems to have chosen to be aggressive . a. they have chosen to use their own method of counting last year’s deficit to include NIS loans directly to the Statutory bodies. if you are going to do this maybe NIS revenues should be counted as government revenue too. I mean if NIS loans are treated as government spending why not. I am not even sure this is an internationally accepted measure S&P is using here.

    b. this happened last year, when if I remember they did issue an opinion on our credit rating. Why look back on that insted of focusing on the improvements this year that did not involve the nis lending to statutory corporations at all. it seems that having failed to rate the sub prime bonds properly the ratings agencies are over compensating now.


  5. @Ellis Chase

    This is an extract from the S&P report which is relevant:

    Moreover, in our opinion, despite the government’s focused efforts to bring down fiscal deficits, the fiscal stance remains qualitatively weak, as rising debt, off-budget spending, and contingent liabilities (in particular, CLICO) demonstrate.


  6. People in Bim beware all the naysayers who are now seeking to score points and let us react in a sophisticated manner. the fact that moodys has kept the investment grade rating means that investors are not forced to do anything like adjust agreements, raise rates or sell off bonds. the fact that there is a split rating means they are still bale to use their own judgement. Investors who had lost faith did not need this rating change to take action, they could have done so before and before of they split rating they do not have to. In fact the sophisticated view of markets would suggest that the downgrade would already be priced into the market.

    Maybe just maybe we can wait to see what the market reaction is which is the ultimate test. What is will say is that for me a lot of the response to date is hypocritical. There was a vocal and widespread opposition to and rubbishing of attempts to do any fiscal consolidation. the call was for a looser fiscal stance to put more money in peoples pockets so they could spend. people wanted back their allowances, two pensions to be paid to some officers (more spending), electricity subsidy (more spending). I

    to cut transfers now the government needs to speedily implement the greening levy in the budget and move rapidly with the reorganization of tertiary education as outlined in the budget. the pundits hardly focused on these measures , but short of sending home thousands of people, they are among our better near term measures.


  7. Here is some more of what Barbados has to worry about:

    UBS: The Risk Of Hyperinflation Is Largest In The US And The UK
    Max Nisen | Jul. 17, 2012, 2:26 PM | 2,032 | 12

    To be clear, UBS does not think hyperinflation is imminent. They estimate that there is less than a 10 percent chance over the next 12 months.

    But according to a new report by UBS’s Caesar Lack, the risk of hyperinflation is greatest in the U.S. and the U.K.

    “Although we see a very small chance of hyperinflation in the near future, the risk should not be neglected, particularly given the ongoing unsustainable global fiscal and monetary expansion,” writes Lack.

    http://e.businessinsider.com/4bf303a8c585c207e5a1415450060230dd6a4989180000b0/UAXQB6gv0N87oNi8Aa5b4

    China’s Catastrophic Deleveraging Has Begun
    Dee Woo, Beijing Royal School | Jul. 15, 2012, 4:29 PM | 30,902 | 30

    Dee Woo is a Standing Director at Beijing New Century Research Institute for Multinationals, a citizen economist, and a citizen diplomacy activist.

    If one wants to know how bad the health of China’s economy has gone, look no further than the PBOC’s composure, which seems rather frustrated and aggressive as of late. On 5th July, the central bank cut benchmark interest rates for the 2nd time in less than a month. This happened right after the fact that in December 2011, PBOC cut the reserve requirement ratio(RRR) by a 50 bp to 21%, it followed up with another 50 bp in February and another 50 bp in May to 20% currently.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-end-gamethe-dark-side-of-a-great-deleveraging-2012-7


  8. @Ellis Chase

    Barbadians will react to the S&P report with fear. The government will have a hard time dealing with it. This is a place where Barbadians have not been before. How government respond will be interesting given its questionable communications strategy of the not too recent past.


  9. off budget is referring to the NIS loans directly to statutory corporations which they are choosing to count as part of government expenditure. should they not therefore be counting nis contributions as part of government revenues if they are counting lis loans directly to an entity as government spend?

    Clico spending has not happened not or is due in the immediate term, so why the rush to downgrade for this. again the pundits were calling for a full and immediate bailout and also for a cheque to barrack as well.

    qualitatively weak is code for saying that the monies loaned by the nis to support BTA, UWI and transport board should not have been provided to those entities at all. you should read the clear hand of the IMF article 4 consultation in this downgrade. IMF wants transport board privatized and they do think a country like bim should have free university education hence they drew focus on the nis funding of these entities last year as off budget spending. My thing is that this was last year, and they did not downgrade then. is S&p saying they believe it will, happen again, or are they upset that they missed it last year. is this how you do ratings on beliefs or as punishment. the sensible thing would have been to look at the improvments this year, the measures to cut transfers in the budget and punish if the thing happens again. this seems like a retroactive downgrade and an anticipation of clico bailout spending. what if the government can used proposed divestiture proceeds to pay off clico settlement when it comes, the s&p looks stupid with this downgrade. they should wait and see what happens. they appear to be overcompensating for past misdeeds.

    but the market will decide, lets see what happens with the trading of barbados government bonds internationally.


  10. note: We have now come full circle !
    David Thompson stated that the “clicco was well managed” …..and then was the clico collapse. Five years later Christ sinkler is now saying that the country is well managed and now …….Standard and Poors annoncement……Barbados credit rating as “Junk”…….fellows let the election begin.!!!!


  11. @Ellis Chase

    Well you need to advise Ryan Straughn from the BEC because he is quoted as saying the same thing i.e. government has not reduced its deficit only transferred it to NIS.


  12. Another occasion presented for the Prime Minister to step up and command his audience.


  13. Ryan has been very consistent with his view and it has some merits. What i would say to Ryan is that he should spell out the pros and cons of various approaches rather than the hyper critical way he manages to come across. he could look at the UK experience for example. They have followed an agenda similar to what he has been saying, where the governments made drastic cuts in current expenditure and transfers and subsidies (public sector layoffs, reduced social spending, higher university fees and so on) and focused its expenditure on capital spending. The ratings agencies, which look out for the interests of creditors (people and institutions which lend money) have been happy with the UK but they are among the only ones who are happy right now. UK growth has been very weak and that in turn has meant that the improvements in public finances have been minimal if all because of lower growth, and many wonder about the long term social and even economic consequences of the policy for the economy.

    Keeping the investment grade rating from S&P would have required a faster pace of fiscal adjustment along the lines suggested by ryan. This would have resulted in much greater pain for bajans and the economy in at least the short to medium term. He is not spelling that out. The government has said they want to bring down the deficit in a more measured manner over more time with less disruption. One question is, would the pain be worth it to keep the rating, which in essence means more pain for the most vulnerable to please the group who invests based primarily on ratings. or do we prefer a more measured approach but lose the investments from that group who require an investment grade by both agencies, and the prestige of having both major agencies rate us investment grade.

    there is no painless approach and choices have consequences. We are now seeing the negative consequences of the government’s approach while also benefiting from the positives (no public sector layoffs which ryan would need, free at the point of delivery access to most social services which ryan would have to cut some) and so on. all medicines or treatment approaches have side effects.


  14. What is irking me David and having me up writing at this unholy hour is that the limited pain and disruption occasioned by the government’s program has been decried and rubbished by the major commentators, yet they bawl about a downgrade, when the rating agency that downgraded demands a tighter fiscal stance, read more pain and disruption.

    I predict that this downgrade will have greater political than economic consequences.


  15. @Scout

    you got it wrong buddy, it was sandi who stood up to the imf and told them no devaluation and that gave other coutries the fortitude to say to the imf no way hosay. Thus Barbados model of tripartism was hailed and used as a model of developmet.

    Had OSA not bloated the the PUBlic Service, after it was trimmed to a reaslistic level, we woul not be having the pressure from S&P to reduce expenditure, and as ! correctly stated, the only way the govt can reduce real expeniture is by cutting the wage bill and that would cause a lot of social dislocation. if there is massive reduction in captal exnpditure what woul happen to all those private sactor construction comapanies that rely on government for projects, surely the unemployment rate will be further impacted.

    The BLP encouraged barbadians to acquire false hope, the coutry reaped windfall with the introduction of VAT, but happened to all that money that was collecte, 400 million waste on kesinton, the figures are conflictin about the amount paid to cruise liners, i just cant remeber the amout wasted on greenaland and gems. Had those funds been put to proper use, we would have had a transformed economy, with agriculture as the driving force, thus cutting our food import bill., among other things.

    Nevertheless, there is an attempt to restructure our economy and it is hoped that barbadains will recognize that Rome was not built in a day. We have to curtail or conspicous consumption an start living like our older gnerations, stop acquiring the big homes and paying exhorbitant mortgages. Plant your vegetables and fruit trees, in a nutshell help your self.

    The days of cheap food are over and the more we rely om impoted food, the more dependant we are on others to feed us. The days of complete free education is coming to and end, regradless to if we like it or not. Those international rating agencies, in addition to the IMF have been pressuring us for years to look at our generous social programmes, such as the massive subsidisation of rent, among other things,and I believe at some time in the future there will be some sort of adjustments, based on the reality of the situation.

    If Barbadians want to continue to live on false hope they can, but there must be a serious attempt to alter their artificial created wants and look at satisfying their needs, thus allowing and accepting that there is a serious need to transform the economy. This woul be done incrementally. I am aware that habits are hard to break, but we must start. I could recall when we had the massive spike in electricty bill, i make it a habit to turn off every surge protector and the microwave and guess what, we realize a reduction in our bill.,


  16. @Sandra Husbands ”Just tired of the crap about not resturcturing. Simply is not true. Money borrowed was spent on renewing the large capital public goods that need renewal after 40 years โ€“ schools, roads, prison, judicial centre, airport, seaport, coast guard, boardwalk, Bridgetown, Oistins, speightstown. When would ”

    ————–

    You say you want to deal with facts, and not come back till people want to discuss those, sounds like an exit plan to me, not a justified approach.

    What is the common denominator of those above you mentioned?

    None supported production and exports (maybe airport and seasport).

    And you left out Kensington Oval, the $400Million albatross.

    That is the whole issue and the reality that you cannot understand the difference between revenue earnings projects and social enhancement projects, if worrying, coming from a potential MP.

    The other reality is that yes, you can bring in those projects mentioned over time, but the reality is that there was a mass of major debt expenditure, against the backdrop of a looming recession (and yes, if you find the energy to look at the archives here,it WAS foreseen).

    Further, these projects created jobs and pushed the economy, when according to all then, the recession had not yet kicked in and it was NOT NECESSARY to pusn all those inflows at one time. I actually made that point, those years ago, on these very blogs (this or the ‘other’ one I used to comment on, till they went off the rail.

    Basic economics again, you keep some in reserve for a slowing economy, to boost it when needed, you do not overheat unnecessarily.

    ALL of these things were discussed well before the recession entrenched, I can tell you, they are in the archives here.

    So, to dismiss as excuses, is but a lame attempt to run from the facts reality, and an exit strategy from these blogs, you dont want o touch that one or have been told no to.,

    Further, such as I have no brief for either ‘party’, you would have seen that from the hospital posting, but will crticise where necesarry and have done so with objectivity.

    And if you doubt objectivity, the simple answer, supported by facts, is go to the archived and read….FACTS!

    Reality is that the last twelve years has suffered poor economic management with complete lack of foresight.

    I support David’s position.


  17. here is a govt struggling to pay off the high debt left by a BLP government trying to hold strain and keep the country on stable course while at the same time trying to save money and then OSA the political opportunistic guru who except himself can’t see that his past policies of high borrowing is what got barbados in the mess is calling for “election” does this man have no shame. after all OSA your lack of vision which should have included a sensible and meaningful fiscal restructuring of this economy would have meant barbados being able to withstand the global economic shock. now it is time to ring the bell because the master of ceremonies have arrived OSA people not stupid they know how all this come about and will be dammned if they give the BLP a chance to do it again .yesterday it seems his only concern was not being able to “BORROW”


  18. One more thing. Objective discussion, with convenient omissions, are not to my likening.

    I am the first to criticise the DLP administration where need be (see the hospital).

    But this seeming refusal to accept culpability in the current state is unacceptable and just going to xiss off people.

    Reality? We were spending on the CWC2007 party when T&T organisations were buying up Barbados (and we were selling happily).

    Remember T&T aint do much with CWC 2007.

    Who is the johnny?


  19. Crusoe | July 18, 2012 at 5:37 AM |

    One more thing. Objective discussion, with convenient omissions = subjective discussion, are not to my likening, because such are disingenuous.

  20. Adrian Loveridge Avatar
    Adrian Loveridge

    Is the Governor of the Central Bank just out of touch with reality?
    He mentioned diversification of our tourism markets but surely that only applies to one flight a week from Brazil. While over the last two years we have lost flights from Philadelphia (the worlds 11th largest airport), Atlanta (the worlds largest with 92 million passengers annually which is almost twice the UK’s entire population) and next month Dallas/Fort Worth (the world’s eighth largest). This despite a US/Kansas based BTA advertising agency.
    The Governor has also mentioned several times, the Merricks development which despite a quoted 2,000 units sold has yet to complete even a show house after more than 6 years. This is stated as one of the three pillars of tourism growth over the next year or so.


  21. onions
    “You need to address the fact that Barbados economy has had structural issues for years now. We are reaping the whirl win now’
    MIGHT BE TRUE- BUT THAT DOES NOT NEGATE THE FACT THAT THE ECONOMY LACKEDTHE STIMULATION NECESSARY TO DRIVE INTERNAL GROWTH OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS AND WAS SADDLED WITH ILLADVISED EXPENDITURES EVWEN THOUGH THERE WAS EVIDENCE TO INDICATE THAT HARD TIMES WERE APROACHING AND THAT CONSOLIDATION WAS NECESSARY.


  22. “This is to the party hacks from the BLP coming after BU.”
    I AM NO PARTY HACK, SIR. AND I AM NOT ONE TO COME AFTER YOU RATHER I AM ONE OF THOSE WHO OBSERVE THE SPIN IN YOUR DISENGENUOUS POST.YOUR POST CASTIGATED THE BLP FOR NOT RE-STRUCTURING IN THE PURPORTED BOOM YEARS. YOU NEED TO ENGAGE MS HUSBANDS ON THAT ISSUE AND TELL THE PUBLIC HOW YOU WOULD HAVE RESTRUCTURED. THE SOCALLED BOOM YEARS DID NOT STOP THE ELECTORATE FROM GETTING RID OF THE BLP.WHY DIDN’T THE DLP RESTRUCTURE ? DID THEY NOT SEE LOOMING ON THE HORIZON THE SAME PROBLEMS ABOUT WHICH YOU COMMENTED? I REPEAT YOUR POST IS A FEEBLE ATTEMPT TO APOLOGISE FOR THE SHORTCOMINGS OF A GROUP WHO HAVE CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY WERE NOT READY AND YET WERE NOT PREPARED TO LISTEN.


  23. @Crusoe

    We need to add that the argument about perceived wastage of public funds was a big discussion in the last election yet Sandra would want us to dismiss it. Yes the BLP created projects but as you say we have to define capacity building i.e. institutional strengthening versus revenue generating. We can criticize this government for not executing properly but guess what, to manage any better would have delayed the inevitable. The reaction by many Barbadians is reminiscent of how people in Europe have been reacting in this global meltdown. Because the BLP is in the political ascendency at the moment at the moment it does not change BU’s position. We are reaping it all now. we will defend this position to all comers.


  24. @balance

    If you want to engage BU et al lose the caps. People like you who do not appreciate that the design of our economy did not begin 4 years ago must be labeled a hack. You prefer to wallow in the narrow point of the last 4 years when like Crusoe and others we have taken the conversation beyond party lines and prefer to speak to the structural issues. BU said it before the last election and we will repeat it this next election, we have been living above our means for many years now. One good thing this meltdown will serve is that Bajans at the household level will have to make some behavioural changes. We will have to become more disciplined, We will have to produce differently and more efficiently. That is if we want to survive. See Hants comments over the years. We will have to participate in our democracy more, our committees in parliament will have to work, we will have to revisit the Auditor General Report to see all those statutory boards which are inefficient etc. This conversation is not about partisan bullshit Sir, it is about our survival which both political parties have made a nonsense of.


  25. @David ‘ The reaction by many Barbadians is reminiscent of how people in Europe have been reacting in this global meltdown. ” AND ”This conversation is not about partisan bullshit Sir, it is about our survival which both political parties have made a nonsense of. ”

    True. One of the unions calling for a 10% rise when things tight. Unrealistic, like the Greeks wanting to maintain all the benefits like age 55 retirement etc.

    Exactly. All we ask is that the political speakers speak on how to go forward, ackknowledge mistakes made and not just point the finger at each other and sulk when not everyone jumps and screams at their words.


  26. @David, Further, on your point re ‘what this is about’. There is a much more serious side, that if the political parties are seen as ‘units’ in and of themselves, for their interest, rather than representatives of the people, it stands to alienate the people, at a tim when crisis makes things difficult.

    What does that recipe give?


  27. @Crusoe

    To your last comment. The fact that we as a people continue to console ourselves that our Westminster System, or a hybrid of it, breeds adversarial politics is telling at a time when this global meltdown should have galvanized us to work together IF we share a common goal of a better Barbados. Of course Peter Wickham et al would dismiss this view as simplistic bullshit.

  28. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Morning ALL
    I sat here as on a proscenium and listenedread to some really good submissions from some, and a prosody from others, ( mute,having earlier had my say)… I have reflected and concluded….that we must choose a path to recuperation and fast if we are to be saved from the total morass pending. All is definitely not loss. Countries in far worse positions have recovered and most definitely so can we..And we will.We can fix it. but just pointing fingers will get us nowhere…nor will being a recusant. It is time to face reality, we must accept the obvious and and stop the falsehood and propaganda being thrown to the public by some who should know better. Red Plastic bag’s “the country ain’t well ” is our prognosis….only a fool could say any different…..stop the rectitude and the clever QEH distractions. We all must if we are to move forward.By now all should be sure of one thing past policies and strategies have not worked, medium term, short termed whatever. It is time for lucid corrective measures that will have immediate effects. For one, the people must vote and give a new mandate.The current administration has done nothing but procrastinate as if awaiting a Savior. They have borrow as Ms. Husbands has posted $3 Billion in 4 years …and to what ends? One would have expected at least a $1 Billion in Capital Assets. What does this say for accountability? It is these types of spendthrift overtures that must come to an end immediately ..the seemingly small lavish trips to China , Brazil and Audi SUV for the more affluent.Make no bones about it..they add up.Definitely, if Barbados is to rise from the ashes, a radical change will be necessary…the first step is a new mandate.Circus antics and regales are over…..it’s once more time to roll up our sleeves to work.

    RESCUE REBUILD RESTORE

  29. Observing (and waiting) Avatar
    Observing (and waiting)

    @David @2:04
    Exactly what I’ve been asking. How long will our “creative” shuffling keep persons happy if the expenses do not decrease? A holding pattern can only work for so long when the rain is forecast to last much more than 40 days and 40 nights.

    Re. communication and government response.
    If Worrell and SInckler so far is anything to go by, it will be business as usual, sad to say.

    Barbadians are resilient and understanding. I’ve forever said you just need to level with them, talk to them, get to work and show some results for their sacrifice. Downgrade isn’t the end of the world but it must be met with honesty, reality, understanding, a communication of how it TRULY impacts the country, what is going to be done about it, over how long hopefully and then an injection of confidence, hope and a sincere plea for trust and faith.

    That is asking for more than too much from any member of this government. Let’s see how long it takes the respective ministers to talk about it given the rate that they flew their mouths on some of everything since the budget.

    Just Observing

    btw. David you may have to start shifting your election blog. A quick rum-shop canvass last night put my numbers at 20-10 / 21-9.

  30. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ To the point | July 18, 2012 at 4:04 AM |

    I wish to be fair and express my agreement with some of the points you raised @4.04 AM.

    Bur arenโ€™t you being hypocritical when it comes to your suggestion that Bajans need to be a bit more reliant on locally grown food by keeping kitchen gardens and planting fruit trees?
    Isnโ€™t that what the much maligned OSA (the same OSA cussed to death on this blog by CCC, ac, ! and yourself) advise Bajans to do as a strategy of mitigating the effects of rising prices on imported foods.
    You remember what the DLP and its monkey band of hecklers said about this home grown piece of advice? You remember what Haynesley Benn said then and his subsequent volte-face when in the hot seat the same attitude you are now comfortably projecting?
    Sounds like the same hypocritical approach the DLP has taken with regard to the building of a new hospital!

    As far as the need to make major adjustments to the provision of free education especially at the tertiary level you are being absolutely disingenuous. You need to direct you โ€œjohnny-come-latelyโ€ advice to the PM and the MoF who recently made it clear that tertiary education would remain free to Bajans for the foreseeable future under the DLP.

    I reiterate that you general commentary is worthy of much consideration. But you need to choose your audience more carefully to have a more targeted effect. You need to offer your sagacious advice and practical strategies to cut out waste and inefficiencies to the current administration. Remember that charity begins at home. Constituency councils, regular overseas trips by large contingents burning up forex and the deliberate refusal to change the policy on the management of the fleet of MP and ML vehicles are just a tiny amount of rampant waste perpetuated by this forked-tongue administration.

  31. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    We will be hoping to hear from our PM rather soon on this significant turn of events.
    Any prolonged reticence would again underscore the quality of political leadership Barbados possesses.
    Isn’t this an ideal opportunity for the Leader of the Opposition to move a motion of no confidence in the government? But this might no see the light of day. The downgrade report needs to be raised in today’s sitting of the House of Assembly.


  32. @Miller

    will respond to you when i return this evening from making some money on rum and thing. But when u r responsing to m, i will prefer you not linking me witth CCC. You can grant me that favour and deal withh CCC by him/her self.


  33. I read with interest the need for the politics of division for the sake of nation to be put aside and i totally agree but given yesterday response by the opposition that is not going to happen any time too soon

  34. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    I read with more than a little Mirth the comment made by Sandra. It makes absolutely no sense at all. But then again whenever has she made any sense in anything that she has ever written.

    This is all political. Why didnt the Barbados Labour Party call a press conference when Moody announced their rating?

    The entire World is going through a very turbulent time economically. The waters are choppy but the G’ovt is keeping the ship of state afloat. The measures put in place G’ovt will see us through. There is no need to panic.

    THERE IS ABSOLUTLELY NO NEED FOR ELECTIONS.

    Sandra Husbands can be ignored. She is only a candidate because no one else wanted to run against Donville. She has never won anything in her life.

  35. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ ac
    Charity begins at home….least we forget.BTW…all the money $234,000+ paid to the econ.guru Paul Voiltre or what every he name…telling we foolishness about how well poise Barbados is being well managed….are we going to recoup a rebate ?


  36. @Observing

    You maybe correct ๐Ÿ™‚

    Will make the BU Picks Elections page on Sunday.

  37. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    I wondered how long it would have taken for the propagandist Balaam’s lamprey to make entrance to stage……morning Cardboard what have you conjured up for us to show how daff ?

  38. SANDRA HUSBANDS Avatar
    SANDRA HUSBANDS

    We will all have our opinions, We stand by our position that what is happening to our economy today was forecast …. After reading your submission you still have to agree that Barbados is an economy which imports from a tooth pick to the BMW. We have to rely on tourism and the Offshore sector to do it. High energy bill (let us not discuss the state of BNOC in 2008) and high food bill. We rode the boom years and where are we now? No other Caribbean island has to maintain the level of entitlements that we do…… No government has had the balls to deal with subsidies….. What is funny is to read the BLP supporters accusing BU of being partisan…

    Dear David, it does not change the fact that along with telecoms reform and the list i provided that BLP gov’t put in place the measures to restructure the economy. They ploughed the land and provided the seed, the private sector need to plant and tend the seed, and only the exploitation of the market opportunities could grow the seed. That is the point. diligent research would have revealed this and informed the discussion some years ago. Gov’t revenues did not reach 2b until 2003 and jumped to 2.8b by 2006. those were the boom years, not 14 years when revenue was under 2b. alternative energy cannot resturcture an economy that is not an intelligent argument, we are not researchers or have massive capital to develop intellectual property in energy. Technology is still changing how would investment in very expensive technology that will be obsolete in five years be a sensible approach for a small economy with limited resources. You decide.


  39. @ ac
    Here is a govt struggling to pay off the high debt left by a BLP government trying to hold strain and keep the country on stable course while at the same time trying to save money and then OSA the political opportunistic guru who except himself canโ€™t see that his past policies of high borrowing is what got barbados in the mess is calling for โ€œelectionโ€ does this man have no shame…………………..

    ac,
    When will Dems grow up and take responsibility for the things you did since 2008 like the reckless spending of over $5 billion with nothing to show for it.

    It is clear that you Dems are not smart, you came in and said that the BLP spent a lot of money, why then in God’s name did you Dems go and spend $5 billion on top of that. You all are just foolish then.

    You Dems are incompetent, that is the cruz of the matter!


  40. @Sandra

    BU stands corrected by you or anyone but wasn’t Telecoms reform a function of WTO imperatives? This is yet another topic which was aggressively discussed in this forum.

    Regarding the reluctance by Barbados to pursue and lay the framework for methods to develop alternative energy sources, again another topic heavily discussed in this forum. You see Sandra in some things one has to be visionary and while the RE technology is emerging there are aspects of waste to energy technology among others which is tried and tested. The idea of finding ways to wean from fossil fuel was NEVER pursued with vigour over the years. The cost savings in foreign currency, buffer against exogenous shocks and generally showing leadership was absent.


  41. I am prepared to bet $1000.00 that the Prime Minister will have nothing to say on the matter for another two weeks. It may be best to wait until the day after Kadooment when most will be concerned with more pressing needs … HA HA HA

  42. SANDRA HUSBANDS Avatar
    SANDRA HUSBANDS

    @ Crusoe

    I will slow down so you can appreciate the arguments, social versus revenue projects. The revenue raising projects were those investments in restructuring the economy that I listed – telecoms reform, fuel canes, energy, culture, professional services, CSME efforts to secure wider markets, small business investment, sports tourism ( Kesington faciity – 150m. not 400m), judicial centre (arbitration services) Forensic lab ( offer services to the region) In addition prior to crisis there was billions in investments lined up – Beachlands, Apes hill, Retirement village in St. Peter, Four Seasons et al which would have increased gov’t take from 2.8b to 4b which would have not only supported the social captial goods projects, but sustain the social services. Our view was and is grow the economy so we can determine what services we will provide free to citizens because we are earning the resources to do so. we are neither careless or incompetent. We are absolutely committed and resolved to take the Barbados economy to a level where we can have the quality of life we can afford. 3b in debt over 14 years did not kill or hamper this economy, our credit ratings during the period bear testimony to that. 3b in 4 years under the DeMS in a crisis with little investment ( less than 120m)in revenue building capacity is a crime against Barbados. No other country in the region did as well as we did during a period of worldwide economic growth 1994-2007, the difference was the quality of BLP economic management. No other country in the region did so badly in 1991 -1994 when there was no worldwide crisis; no other Caribbean territory has fallen so much in this region 2008 – 2012 as Barbados to junk , the issue is poor economic management. Other countries have found growth – J’ca, St. Lucia, Cayman, Guyana, and yes with the exception of Guyana did it on tourism and offshore alone. The DLP caused this mess by mismanaging an economy in a crisis, and nothing will change that. Better could have been done.


  43. Though I have to say the “political leadership” is never required, but TRUE leadership …!


  44. I guess SANDRA HUSBANDS effected a hit and run, is too busy to respond or there is nothing so far worthy of her reaction.

    Unless I missed it, I see her offering little in terms of a recipe for solution of the current economic problems. I wish she would list the “several other economies which depend on tourism and offshore” and “are not at junk bond status”. How are they comparable to Barbados in terms of demographics, geography, structure, resources etc.

    It is laughable when she refers to “Overstaffed the civil service with alot of temporary workers, thousands in statutory corporations with no materials or tools to work with”. Where was she during the previous administration?

    It was interesting to hear Mr. Arthur saying yesterday that they are willing to collaborate with the present administration for the good of Barbados (if I understood him well). I thought that he had rejected such a proposal by the late David Thompson?

    If Mr. Arthur and his people are serious about working with the present administration to move Barbados forward, it will be necessary for both sides to cease the rhetoric and political posturing and engage the best minds to seek solutions. Our leaders (and our people) must realize that showing mutual respect is not a sign of weakness.


  45. “telecoms reform, fuel canes, energy, culture, professional services, CSME efforts to secure wider markets, small business investment, sports tourism ( Kesington faciity โ€“ 150m. not 400m), judicial centre (arbitration services) Forensic lab ( offer services to the region)”
    How do these things raise revenues, particularly the areas of activity that are already or in short order could easily be provided by other jurisdictions in direct competition with us? I smell a rat, and a BIG one …! CSME efforts to secure wider markets my ass … Fuel canes …stupse!


  46. @Ellis Chase
    A boss post! Analytical and factual.

    Ryan Straughn of the Economic Society like the Ratings agency is looking at a strictly mathematical approach but he never tells Barbadians that the kind of medicine which they prescribe in the short term leads to further depressed aggregate demand , further economic contraction and a spike in the unemployment rate to at least 20%.
    The government could have gone that route to please the ratings agencies, avoided a downgrade, the books would have looked better but the reality for thousands of public servants and the families they support would have been untold hardship and joblessness which would also affect the private sector businesses they patronise.

    The opposition is predictably trying to get poltical mileage from the downgrade while not specifically endorsing the painful medicine.
    The opposition is trying to have it both ways – The Ratings agency is saying to speed up the fiscal consolidation with more pain , the government says to take a slower measured approach to minimise the social dislocation.
    The opposition in its budget reply brought NO specific spending cuts to the table but election bait in subsidies for this and that.It is clear that nothing that the rating agency has said endorses the policies of the opposition but they neglect to mention that small fact.


  47. Can someone outline succinctly what are the consequences to the BDS economy as a result of the latest downgrade to junk status?

    1. Increased interest rates
    2. Rise in cost pf living
    3. Government being unable to borrow money on the IM
    4. Loss of jobs in the civil service
    5. Social unrest
    6. Possible devaluation of the BDS $
    7. Reduced foreign investment
    8. Default on Government Bonds
    9. End to “free” education
    10. Reduced government participation in health care

  48. SANDRA HUSBANDS Avatar
    SANDRA HUSBANDS

    @David
    You need to dig in Barbadian political history and see it was BLP that supported an incentivized solar water heater tech eons ago; and started the ethanol projects in 2006/7. How could more investment in alternative energy in its fledgling stages help us at the prohibitive costs it presents. Our green economy paper shows our commitment to alternative energy, but it must be sensible and practical.


  49. On the issue of food production, Arthur’s record is piss poor. After being Prime Minister for 14 years, in his 13 and half year, he calls in the media and talks about backyard gardening – a garden that we are reliably informed he never touched before or since.That was a political photo op not a policy.
    People forget that when Dr. Estwick talked about underfunding agriculture, he also referred to this happening during the boom years when land was fetching its “highest economic value” but we cannot eat services and food production would have been the “hedge” in the lean times to combat global food inflation. One third of the money wasted in Greenland against technical advice would have helped the same Scotland District Food plans and other crop production.Arthur failed miserably in this regard and he has no interest or credible track record on agriculture.

    I hope that the post by Sandra Husbands was an impostor and not the BLP candidate for her sake.I expected more substance but she will have a lot of time to perfect her contributions after the election because St. James South will be won by Donville Inniss and rightly so.

  50. Frustrated businessman Avatar
    Frustrated businessman

    It seems to me that the comments here are being made in a vacuum of business knowledge. If anyone spent any time socialising with business people (domestic and foreign) they would know what the real problem with the Bajan economy is. TO THE LAST MAN it is common business knowledge that getting anything done in this country has become virtually impossible due to Bureaucracy; a precondition of corruption (if it were easy to get things done we wouldn’t need to pay). Foreign companies are leaving because the concessions or legislation they require takes too long to implement; they measure taxes and interest in days, not years. Developers are leaving because planning permission takes too long, interest payments on purchased property exceeds the margins after sitting on it for 3 to 5 years. Businesses are suffering because of inefficiencies in the port and various ministries we depend on for permits, licenses, services, permissions etc.; these costs are being passed on to the consumer (if everyone wasn’t suffering them equally retail prices would have dropped in a true free market). The crime of this Gov’t is not simply mismanagement, it is their failure to get a grip on the civil service to implement plans and ideas. The crime of the last gov’t is the doubling of the civil service and the doubling of the obstacles in the way of progress. We will never get any ‘service’ from the civil service until there is accountability. They need to understand that in order to be paid a salary they need to help the private sector earn an income that can be taxed. The words ‘facilitate, don’t frustrate’ need to be painted on every gov’t office wall so they don’t forget it. Barbados was built by citizens, not governments; the wisest politicians helped us do it and took the credit. My BLP friends tell me managing 32,00 unproductive people wasn’t a problem for them; my DLP friends tell me they are all BLP supporters. Either way the civil service has constipated this country and it is past time for a laxative.

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