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Submitted by Yardbroom
Peter Wickham, Head of CADRES

The recent CADRES opinion poll has generated much debate and rightly so, because it has given ammunition to those – mainly BLP supporters but not singularly – who believe this DLP Government will be defeated at the next general election.  It has also caused some anxiety even to committed DLP diehards.  I will take a different view to the majority expressed on BU (Barbados Underground) and in the interest of “balance” seek to address some misconceptions.

“An opinion poll, sometimes simply referred to as a Poll, is a survey of public opinion from a particular sample.  Opinion polls are usually designed to represent the opinions of a population by conducting a series of questions and then extrapolating generalities in ratio or within confidence intervals.”  It was once said: “Opinion polls are like soup you take a spoon full and you have a flavour of the whole”.

But BAJANS know you can dip a spoon in a bowl of souse and come up with only a liquid of peppers, cucumber and onions the “meat” can be at the bottom of the bowl.

Is there empirical data from which I can draw to substantiate the view I have taken.

“The story of opinion polls.  In the 1997 [UK general election] election begins on 9 April 1992, the day John Major won the election and made fools of the polling industry.  In 1992 the four final polls, published on election day, showed the Conservative and Labour parties level pegging, as the polls had been doing throughout the campaign.  NOP and MORI put Labour slightly ahead, ICM declared a dead heat and Gallup put the Conservatives ahead by a mere half per cent, the average of the four was a Labour lead of 0.9%.  Everything pointed to a hung parliament and a coalition government.  In the event the Conservatives won with an overall majority of 21 seats, 7.6% ahead of Labour in the popular vote.”

Opinion Polls are not tablets of stone handed down from heaven, they should not be completely ignored but a measure of caution should be exercised in interpreting them.  I am not saying completely ignore the Poll because it is of no relevance.  I am making the point as forcefully as I can,  there is no reason to abandon ship and man the life boats into the turbulent and icy waters of the deep, no iceberg has been struck.

To the DLP, Prime Minister Stuart should call a WAR council, delegate areas of attack and go on the offensive, all singing from the same hymn sheet.  Focused targeting is required, when the opposition is under pressure then cracks appear.

As for the BLP sometime ago I wrote of Mia Mottley: “Your time will come” and those with undiscerning eyes may not have noticed that time might just be nearer than expected.

The Opinion Polls are only a chapter in this story, there is a long game to be played.

Acknowledgement to: Ivor Crewe


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219 responses to “Are Political Opinion Polls Always Right? A Different View”


  1. Foolishness. Nothing here, moving on …


  2. @Yardbroom

    In theory a poll is predictive, you are correct but in the case of CADRES it has been on the button going back to when its founder was alive Pat Emmanuel.

    What is evident from the poll, even if we set aside who will win or lose, is the fact the DLP has some work to do and possibly not enough time to do it.


  3. “when a goverment is under pressure wider cracks will appear.”.


  4. The comments from some of the DLP MPs in today’s Nation seem really strange and unbelievable. Only James Paul and Hammie La spoke with any sense.

    They can ignore the poll at their own peril!

  5. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    For how long have we relied on the polls as a snap shot of the political landscape…why now the doubt ? Polls are the internationally recognize method of sampling a prevailing political climate ..The Gallup poll for instance case to point. Historically, the Gallup Poll has measured and tracked the public’s attitudes concerning virtually every political, social, and economic issue of the day, including highly sensitive or controversial subjects. In 2005, Gallup began its World Poll, which continually surveys citizens in more than 140 countries, representing 95% of the world’s adult population. General and regional-specific questions, developed in collaboration with the world’s leading behavioral economists, are organized into powerful indexes and topic areas that correlate with real-world outcomes. Yet we after our own son of the soil Peter Wickham..who has so far, always got it right…..(records speak for themselves)..we raise a ponder.
    It’s a laugh and arguable a waste of time continuing in this direction. Fact are facts….polls seldom lie.

  6. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Oh Yeah I forgot to concur…DLP a defeated government….din need no polls for that..


  7. Will the flamboyant, upity and rejected Barney Lynch defeat a sitting Prime Minister? Tune in next year, same station for details on this and other developments …

  8. Observing (and listening for a bell) Avatar
    Observing (and listening for a bell)

    @Yardbroom
    “there is a long game to be played.”

    Do you honestly believe that the DLP has the combination of captain, players, team spirit and unity to play the game forcefully and purposely all from the agreed to playbook??? I’m curious as to your feelings.

    Also, you forgot to mention that the UK polling companies changed their methods after 1992 to offset a “factor” that they believed threw them off. Feel free to check and compare their accuracy since then. Now take Barbados, Wickham has used the same method, consistently, with reasonable accuracy. Where I might give in a bit, is this is the first time in AGES that DLP supporters (die hards, now comes and impostors) have had a chance to give their “opinion” on their party IN government. There thus may be some skew based on that, which might actually be worse off for the DLP in terms of the enthusiasm gap. I can think of nor see nothing else that would invalidate the MESSAGE and GENERAL prediction of the poll.

    I understand why you wrote this and I empathise, truthfully. Let’s hope the powers that be take your advice and proceed to war council mode. Think about it though, war councils need time, energy, thought, strategy and room for consensus, armoury building and fortress erection (no pun please) .

    Can these really be done at this “late” stage while trying to “accomplish” enough to “boast” about when the bell is rung? Especially if the wagons are circling, the trumpets are blowing and the hoofs of the war horses on the other side are trampling loudly in silence?

    Just observing.


  9. A healthy curiosity should have been a must when PM Stuart learned that a CADRES poll was about. To the horror of political observers they learned that he had not thought it necessary to allocate time to read the newspaper bearing the poll results on Sunday.

    The BU household has been trying to compute what the thought process of the PM could have been with little success to date.


  10. Political opinion polls are generally reflective of what people are thinking at a particular point in time, most pollsters will admit to a margin of error depending on the size and scope of those polled.

    Pollsters generally get it right but sometimes the pollsters are unable to capture the general mood if major events crop up just before an election.

    The most famous incident of polls being inaccurate was the US Presidential Election of 1948 where all the polls had Thomas Dewey (Republican) defeating Harry Truman (Democrat) which led to the famous banner headline in the Chicago Tribune “Dewey Defeats Truman”

    Truman won and was later photographed holding the newspaper with the erroneous headline..

  11. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ Sarge
    Times change…1948..wow


  12. David wrote “In theory a poll is predictive, you are correct but in the case of CADRES it has been on the button”

    Why do we bother with expensive elections when CADRES polls predict the correct results.

  13. HAMILTON HILL Avatar

    In the lead up to the last general election this very same group using the very same sample size and the very same method,came to the conclusion that the BLP had lost the confidence of barbadians.The very same people,politicians included who cussing CADRES now were praising them then.Those who today shower CADRES with their praises,are the ones responsible for that fraudulent document,namely “The Boxill Chapo Poll”.Hypocrisy seems to be the bajan way of life. All I want to know is this.After careful examination of the facts how does any right thinking bajan bestow upon Owen Arthur the title of leader of this country?

  14. HAMILTON HILL Avatar

    Excerpt from brass tacks monday.”To get a mortage David,I could not be single,I’d have to marry a woman”.Lord come fa ya world.


  15. @Hants

    A CADRES poll is no different to NISE or other organization doing a survey to measure public opinion. The science/technology of polling has improved over the years and a sample survey properly extracted can guarantee an accurate prediction most times than naught. In the USA a victory is predicted often times well less than 100% of the votes in for example.


  16. @Hamilton Hill

    Owning real estate is expensive business in Barbados.

    On 24 May 2012 00:43, David wrote:

    > @Hants > > A CADRES poll is no different to NISE or other organization doing a survey > to measure public opinion. The science/technology of polling has improved > over the years and a sample survey properly extracted can guarantee an > accurate prediction most times than naught. In the USA a victory is > predicted often times well less than 100% of the votes in for example. >


  17. BAFBFP@7.36pm
    Totally agree with your posting.Put succinctly and factually..


  18. I’m starting to believe that the DLP thinks the polls are wrong, any clear thinking person wouldn’t have to wait on a survey to know the DLP is walking a tight rope, all the polls did was to confirm what most of barbados already knows. Their focus right now should be on strengthening their weak points, instead they are warming over stale food, we have heard about all the grand things they said they did, yet the majority of the voting public is not convinced. We are returning to a situation similar to the early 90’s where toal housewhole members were out of work and mortgages to pay, children to feed etc. yet I’m hearing no-one addressing this matter. What I’m hearing is new cruise terminal, increas in tourists arrivals, but they are not spending, These things don’t benefit the average bajan, the cost of living contiues to rise almost every day. We don’t need polls to tell us that this government is way off mark. Wake up DLP and fight, this party was made of sterner stuff than I’m seeing now, that’s why I cannot bury my head and say like so many yardfowls/supportrs, they are doing or have done a good job.


  19. Yardbroom
    If you go to the doctor and having been fully tested, you were told you had cancer throughout your colon and even on the liver, would he/she have to tell you, you will soon expire? You go put your house in order that when your examination is done and the news is the same, you know you have put your house in order, if the news is better,you also know you have put your house in oder. One thing you don’t do is ignore the doctor, especially if he’s one that has been reliable. The DLp seems to be adopting either a don’t care attitude or a ublieving one, either one spells trouble.


  20. National political opinion polling needs to be BANNED within a certain time of elections in this country.

    Media houses must be also BANNED within the said time from otherwise publishing any or all of the so-called findings of such national political opinion polls within the said time of elections in this country.

    Persons or entiites must be BANNED from commissioning or financing such polling activity within this said/same period of time.

    However, any polling of that nature may be permitted outside of that time, but there shall NOT be the naming of prospective/candidates or prospective contesting/parties or political groups to any voting election in Barbados in respect of any publishing by the media of any sentiments and attitudes that a sample of potential/voters/respondents would have themselves purpo rted to have expressed about any particular issues surrounding such prospective/ candidates or prospective contesting parties or political groups in the surveys but which would have been re/arranged by the pollsters or their agents in ways suitable for publication, and whereupon by any number of publications of those so-called findings either the candidates or parties or political groups chances of winning any voting contests in this country are likely to be harmed injured by way of the publication of such so-called findings, thus grossly violating the fundamental principle of conducting free and fair elections in the country.

    In short, it is time enough that national political opinion polling is absolutely regulated in Barbados in the fundamental interest of the conducting of free and fair elections in Barbados. And it is time enough that potential voters are allowed to make up their minds on whether to vote or not, or who to vote for or not, without their having to be influenced by polling opinion results, in the fundamental interest of building confidence in the voting system.

    PDC .


  21. PDC should be BANNED from expressing his or her opinions! Get real, and then you tell me that you are serious about politics and bringing alternatives; what kind?


  22. @David, you said ”had not thought it necessary to allocate time to read the newspaper bearing the poll results on Sunday.”.

    Well, worse, he did not seem too bothered about getting his hands on the Clico report, was quite happy to sit back on wait on something so urgent, same excuse that he did not read it yet, when asked about it..

    Either disingenuous or incompetent, you decide.


  23. Hi Observing ( and listening for a bell) May 23, 2012 @ 8:07 PM

    “@ Yardbroom do you honestly believe that the DLP has the combination of captain, players, team spirit and unity to play the game forcefully and purposely all from the agreed playbook??? i’m curious as to your feelings.”

    Here are my thoughts, Now to the “WAR” council:
    The DLP have not played one of their greatest assets well. Prime Minister Stuart should have been presented as “I am one of you” they have allowed that vital component of his personality to fall by the wayside….what a shame. Not of what or how I speak but as “I am” a man of and from the people.

    In the War council delegate areas of attack to individuals using their particular strengths, make sure they are comfortable with tasks given. Expect serious retorts from the BLP but think ahead and be ready with a serious” body blow”. It is the body blow that will win the argument not the first wave attack. The BLP will also be trying to out-manoeuvre, they must be prepared for those ambushes.

    However unpalatable address the electorate’s concerns where they think you have failed, in a way that makes sense to them. People can stand pain if the know why they are hurting. The DLP must believe in themselves defeat is not an option. The true test of character is how you fight when your back is against the wall.

    Get this out of the way, Prime Minister Stuart is a different type of leader to some they have had in the past. Different does not mean bad or worse. There is no reason for mental gymnastics, he is the leader and he “must” be supported to bring them victory. Some will disagree but unity of purpose is what matters.

    The DLP made a major mistake when some rather misguided individuals sought to undermine their leadership. Up to that point Unity and cohesiveness was their trump card and the opposition BLP was on the run. They scored an own goal. In politics things of some import must be kept close to your chest for the success of the whole and what you want to achieve. They forgot that in politics timing is everything.
    – – – – – – –
    The reason why the BLP is in silence mode is because there is no reason to shout when the Government is advancing your cause.

    Owen Arthur “The Master Tactician” has somehow been able to instill discipline in the ranks you cannot help but admire that ….sheer genius. Mia Mottley is not only wise she is pragmatic, what has to be done has to be done. She will eventually be an even greater force in Barbados politics, nothing can prevent that.

    You are quite right it is late in the day and time is short but the important factor is where your position is when when you make a move. There is no major impediment to a DLP victory but they must press the right buttons with the electorate and have a structured attack, only strategic thinking and execution will do at his juncture.
    — – – –
    @ Scout
    Hi, I did not try to undermine the validity of the CADRES poll or called CARDE’S record into question I looked at the issue from a different perspective. I am sure you will agree we must be grown up about these things, a BLOG is not a choir.

    In reference to your example you have compared a diagnosed certainty of cancer from a doctor with the prediction from a sample in a poll quite different things but I understand the point you have made.
    – – – –
    I can only smile and nothing more than that, to those who think I should lambast the BLP or DLP my thinking does not run like that: life is what it is.

  24. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ Yardbroom
    Nice extracting from a so called ‘Min of Poll Defense policy’.
    “We shall not accept …….we will fight”….Sounds Hitler to me…but I will indulge you. Do you think they can play the so called ..” I am for the people card” now ‘affa’ dispensing so many body blows to the people ?..Sounds deranged to me. Hit #1 austerity measures in tandem. Hit 2 CLICO. Hit 3 DT association…Should I go on ?
    One could easily disassemble your logic..’piece by post’ ..but unlike you we are not here to enlighten the DLP’s Pilgrims Progress. Try this one on for size..How can one effectively communicate with the people….. when to speak to them on any matter by the nature of one’s gift…. repertoire and prowess of languages….. only serves to be a handicap ? Some just don’t possess the common touch of a Brandford or a Dipper ?……You either got it or you don’t……Square pegs sometimes find themselves in round hole when there is a mad rush to choose the Right One….who would not rock the boat ..and accidentally dislodge the hidden loot in the bowels.Too late .


  25. To reiterate the point, the government cannot or should not be dismissive of the CADRES poll which has been correct when predicting election outcomes since the 90s in Barbados. Yes they can get it wrong but the government does not have the luxury of being arrogantly dismissive especially managing an economy in austere economic conditions. One just has to walk about Barbados, rum shops, supermarkets, visit work coolers and the like to gauge that the mood of the electorate is ‘chippy’ at the moment. PM’s Stuart reaction to the poll is therefore surprising in the circumstances.

    The government definitely needs a political strategist onboard.


  26. @ Yardbroom
    The DLP can’t present Stuart as “I am one of you”, because he doesn’t talk like one of us. Yardbroom you know how powerful communication is and tragically Stuart is a very, very poor communicator. As a result of this, he comes across as being aloof. Far removed from the “common folk”. How many press conferences has he had?
    You say that he is a different kind of leader. Is he? Or is the truth that he is an ineffective leader? Some people are of the believe that the problem is the rest os the Cabinet, but isn’t one of the biggest responsibilities of a PM to manage his cabinet? That’s why we see reshuffling from time to time; most PMs or Presidents do that. The buck stops there.


  27. All leaders have one common trait, they lead.


  28. Yardbroom
    I think the majority of DLP members, have approached the results of the polls differently. Maybe they could have indicated that, yes times were difficult and we did make a few mistakes, in areas that we could have done better, but we always had the interest of the country at heart. FS mouthings about he never promised a running commentry of a matter, showed a touch of arrogance and it came over the wrong way. His entire handling of the economy, with little or no reports as to what was causing the continued rise in cost of living, His handling of the AX matter was sooooo wrong, it started wrong by his speaking only to one party, then it appeared he promised what he could not deliver to the BSTU, again there was a touch of “talk tuff” arrogance, which became nothing, just passing the baton. These and other matters will hurt his chances.

  29. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ David
    We can only consider being ..”a lead”….when we begin to see…. “a where “…thus the contrary aptly applies.


  30. Stuart is nottoo blame. It is his incompetent ministers being led by Inniss and Sinckler. Stuart should have moved them forthwith after their Eager 11 battle.

    I think each Black Barbadian should vote for the DLP once in their lifetime in resepct to Errol barrow who paved teh way for full free secondary eductaion. After that it is hard to continue voting for them. they are a vision-LESS group of incompetent loud do-nothing fat duncy people.

  31. Observing (and awaiting the bell) Avatar
    Observing (and awaiting the bell)

    @yardbroom
    Thanks for the response, you have echoed thoughts I’ve had for the past 2 years regarding the “war strategy”. I have been saddened and surprise at the blunders that have been made, but, also don’t believe it is too late to eke out a smidgen of a victory But it has to be done NOW. Pretending and ignoring will make it worse. I have to ask because I may have missed it

    Based on their track record, public utterances and unresolved apparent division, do you honestly believe that the DLP has the captain, team, unity and playbook to make this happen? or, have you seen anything that gives you optimism that they could?

    Just observing
    Hope springs eternal.

  32. Absolutely amazed. Avatar
    Absolutely amazed.

    @ Scout ..
    You are obviously a BLP supporter . Why then do you not take glory in the FACT that your party HAS WON the NEXT election ? why do you continue with the disingenuous clap-trap as if to suggest some regret at the DLP’S OBVIOUS DEMISE ? Go ahead and celebrate your VICTORY ! Leave it to the DLP to lick their wounds .

  33. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ Str8
    As I said previously…When the company fails …the CEO is to be responsible….(even for workers errs)..don’t forget.The buck stops there.

  34. Absolutely amazed. Avatar
    Absolutely amazed.

    @ Scout .
    One other thing : You seem to love using the word ” ARROGANCE ” in referring to Mr Stuart ; I seem to recall that this same word was the popular one associated with your Mr Arthur in reference to his TREATMENT of ALL with whom he came into contact , INCLUDING PUBLIC OFFICERS . Barbadians from all walks of life are well placed to assess your assessment of Mr Stuart in this regard .


  35. How polls work.

    Just being facetious!!

    It is a sad fact that neither party has what it takes but the way things work around here we always get one.

    The polls predicting a BLP walk over is not a predition, just a description of life as we know it.

    Hope too much money wasn’t spent getting it done.

    Oh for another option!!


  36. This is the story of the PM’s new clothes.
    Now there was once a PM who was absolutely insane about
    big words poetry and new clothes, one day, eleven swindlers came to sell him what they said was a magic suit of clothes. Now, they held up this particular garment and they said, “Your Right Honourable PM, this is a magic suit.”
    Well, the truth of the matter is, there was no suit there at all.
    But the eleven swindlers were very smart, and they said,
    “Your Right Honourable PM , to a wise man this is a beautiful raiment
    but to a fool it is absolutely invisible.”
    Naturally, the PM not wanting to appear a fool, said:

    “Isn’t it grand! Isn’t it fine! Look at the cut, the style, the line!
    The suit of clothes is altogether, but altogether it’s altogether
    The most remarkable suit of clothes that I have ever seen.
    These eyes of mine at once determined
    The sleeves are velvet, the cape is ermine
    The hose are blue and the doublet is a lovely shade of green
    Somebody send for the Queen Mara ”

    Well they sent for the Queen Mara and they quickly explained to her about the magic suit of clothes. And naturally,
    the Queen Mara not wanting to appear a fool, said:

    “Well, isn’t it oh! Isn’t it rich! Look at the charm of every stitch!
    The suit of clothes is altogether, but altogether it’s altogether
    The most remarkable suit of clothes that I have ever seen
    These eyes of mine at once determined
    The sleeves are velvet, the cape is ermine
    The hose are blue and the doublet is a lovely shade of green
    Summon the Cabinet and those appointed by the party to convene”

    Well the Cabinet and those appointed by the party convened, and you never saw in your life as many people as were at Parliament All the ambassadors, the Ministers, the Senators, the Judges, it was just packed with people, and they were all told about the magic suit of clothes. And after they were told they
    naturally didn’t want to appear fools and they said:

    “Isn’t it ohhh! Isn’t it ahhh! Isn’t it absolutely wheee! (whistle sound)
    The suit of clothes is altogether, but altogether, it’s altogether
    The most remarkable suit of clothes a tailor ever made
    Now quickly, put it altogether
    With gloves of leather and hat and feather
    It’s altogether the thing to wear in Saturday’s Independence parade
    Leading the official brigade”

    Now Saturday came and the streets were just
    lined with thousands and thousands and thousands of people.
    And they all were cheering as the BDF came by, the Cadets marched by, the mounted police galloped by. And everybody was cheering like mad, except one little boy. You see, he hadn’t heard about the magic suit and didn’t know what he was supposed to see.
    Well, as the PM came by the little boy looked and, horrified, said:

    “Look at the PM! Look at the the PM! Look at the PM, the PM, the PM!
    The PM is in the altogether, but altogether, the altogether
    He’s altogether as naked as the day that he was born
    The PM is in the altogether, but altogether, the altogether
    It’s altogether the very least the PM has ever worn”

    Summon the head physician! Call an intermission!
    This Right Honourable PM is wide open to ridicule and scorn.

    The PM is in the altogether, but all together, the altogether
    He’s altogether as naked as the day that he was born
    And it’s altogether on a hot and sunny morn!

    Can anyone tell me what is the moral of this story?


  37. the latest are Benn and Jepter coming public and ‘dissin’ the poll, arguable two light weights in the minds of the electorate. BU continues to be amazed by the DLP, absolutely amazed. Foreboding for the DLP is the fact like CADRES BU has gotten the mood of Barbadians correct most times…lol.


  38. The moral of the story is “THAT ONE FOOL MAKES MANY”

  39. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ IsGal
    lol…………looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool


  40. Scientific polls can be correct

    This poll is an indicator.

    I am satisfied that the DLP will not win the up-coming election, if the Prime Minister calls an election.

    There is nothing that compels the Prime Minister to call an election–Nothing at all and I challenge anyone to say otherwise. The Prime Minister calls election out of the goodness of his heart. Nobody can tell him when nor how. He is the king of all he surveys. The Boss, Numero Uno. Stuart has the power and Stuart will use it. No elections will be called in Barbados


  41. Islandgal246 is not a favourite of mine but her post above–

    I likes it–The story of the PM new clothes.

    It says that Stuart is living in a Fantasy world
    Assholes dismiss polls because they stupidly think that like an election, you have to polled everybody

    Idiots !!

  42. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ David
    the latest are Benn and Jepter coming public and ‘dissin’ the poll, arguable two light weights in the minds of the electorate. BU continues to be amazed by the DLP, absolutely amazed.
    *************************
    By now you should be convinced (as we are) it’s the DLP reactionary policy…conveyed to all…and they are following directions…folly or not.
    (where is that geese video)..lol


  43. @David
    Oh lord. Jepter was unbelievable.

    “I can’t remember a poll that had the DLP winning.” really Jepter??

    “they have always judged us on performance.” Are we talking the 1980’s here????

    Then Benn, “this poll is not different from the last one.” Sigh.

    Are these guys for real or do they just think that we are STUPID and forgetful?


  44. The behaviour of the DLP shows how out of touch, arrogant and stupid they are and should not be leading this country.

  45. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ Prodigal
    THAT IS EXACTLY…the point…the really don’t believe the polls..just look at ac…she really believes people are just cozy and living well….not hurting for change….they better AWAKE n soon !


  46. @onions i think that only ones out of touch are you and the others who are seeking to relive the days of economic boom as the world as we knew it back then no longer exist times/are hard for everyione and that includes barbadians so stop pretending that with an OSA administration all the economic pain would suddenly disappear in thin airm.The reality is that it might get harder as fuel prices continue to climb and ain,t a damn thing any givt. can do about it


  47. Ole onions so get ready and prepare yourself for more hard times and economic depression and this one not even OSA can talk his/way out of good luck my boy yuh gunna need it and then some. .

  48. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ac
    Firstly..oil prices are at a all time low…yet we had a gasoline increase last week…Secondly ac..this administration is clearly out of its depth understanding how to run a country….the theatrics days of pretend are over as more and more people come to realize the ….”driver can’t drive”..Now I leave you with a last comment to bring this thread back into sync… as the last caller on Brass Tacks just now, so aptly said…..”this elections will be won not by the die-hards ( like you and I) but but the voters uncertained.”..”They are going to vote on what is effecting them most ..the cost of living…and when they vote, they will do so with a resounding VENGEANCE.”…..It’s time you all see the inevitable…nothing to pull back.
    aside:
    Wickham..Onions would die for pork….boi


  49. Hi, onion bags May 24, 2012 @ 6:41AM
    “@ Yardbroom, Nice extracting from a so called “Min of poll Defense policy.
    We shall not accept. . . . we will fight”
    Sounds Hitler to me. . . but I will indulge you”
    – – – – – – –
    My dear man! “We will fight” to my mind is more Winston Churchill than Hitler. . . . but I will let that pass.
    You have set a trap for me but I will not be lurerd into it by defending the DLP because what I write will be judged later as being from a strong supporter of the DLP Government. There is nothing wrong with you supporting the BLP, you plant your own cane holes.
    – – – – –
    Hi Citizen, May 24,, 2012 @ 6:47 AM
    You have made some very valid points most worthy of serious analysis. Remember when Stuart came to office. It was expected by some that the DLP would fall apart without David Thompson that did not happen, he put the ship on a steady course.
    The ship became so steady that sailors began to take liberties, buoyed up with position, power and authority they wanted to run the ship a munity for the bounty was envisaged. Did they honestly believe they could usurp the leader take over and things would continue as if nothing had happened. To believe such shows they were not ready for leadership…..that was a major mistake.
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  50. David I am amazed that you do not understand the aged political tactic of publically dissing an unfavorable poll while in reality and on the ground, engaged every available tactic to change perceptions. In the end, changed perceptions allow for “see wuh uh tell wunnuh?”
    But this particular poll –who you would LIKE to be Leader-, is a far cry from who you will be voting for come election. Many people vote party “nothing to do with who leading it” others vote for a particular representative,” whatever party some will still be for Hammie Lah” then there are the “I am not a Fruendel man but Barney Lynch can’t get vote people; or I voting against Lynette Eastmond phillipinos, and finally to have the ever growing block of voters ready to sell their X to the highest bidder. Put together a very large block of voters who could care less about de party leader. It is going to be difficult to translate Owen for PM into a election win over peoples very personal reasons for placing their X. But a continued bad economy and a truly hurting people will vote any government out; If not the economy this poll will not do it.

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