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  1. Is Islamization Real Or Imagined ?

    Let the scoffers, who riciduled me here on BU, for honestly and objectively seeking to inform re the Islamic, sharia agenda, look carefully at this video, and see what is already happening in Paris, and NOTE, also, by a minority in France!

    CAIR in the US are already deeply imbeded in government agencies, even within the very WH; thanks to Obama, whom some believe to be a closet Muslim!


  2. more right wing propaganda fueled by the christian Right against Mulim.
    Question. did n’t jesus command in the great commandment’ To love thy neighbour as thyself” which part of that commandment does the “christian right” not understand. but then again maybe the “christian Right” doesn’t love themselves. You guys are wolves in sheep clothing and are the faces of”anti christ” What have the religious muslims done to you!


  3. Zoe isn’t there enough hate in the world. Wasn’t Christ mission on earth to bring peace !Love! and harmony among men! How could you and others of christian faith continue to spewed such venom antichrist behaviour and call yourself “true messengers ” of the Gospel what kind of message is the christian right bringing! Do you really think Christ would approve of a message that would conger up hate and animosity among each other? Does the “christian Right understand what is meant by “The Word Was Made Flesh. Well if you understood the meaning of such a phrase the christian right would act accordingly.


  4. @ Zoe:
    Thank you so much for bringing to our notice once again this foreseeable threat to our Christian society. But the adage “if you can’t beat them” join them’ cannot be applied in this case. Since your faith is the only one and true faith, Islam and its Sharia laws should be nip in the bud whenever or wherever its shows is ungodly head. The only way that human beings can receive the Grace of God and be saved and enter the Kingdom is through Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour. Agree? Yes! Then stop the long talk and get into action.
    First let us put a stop to this abomination of a man having more than one wife. Where you know it exists among Muslim men, call in the police since it is against the law of the land to be married to more than one person; it’s called bigamy but in the situation of some of these bearded worshippers it might be deemed as “quadamy”.
    If you go to the Kensington area you will notice the thin edge of Sharia law slowly being inserted in the wedge of the Bajan Christian society. In your view you will describe what you come across as a heathen temple with its crescent moon motif dedicated to a false god.
    In order to stop this nonsense it is incumbent on us kafirs- true believers in our living Lord Jesus- to save these lost souls and show them the true path to Christianity and salvation.
    Come with me and let us shine our lights before this misguided lot that they will see the error of their ways and glorify the Sun Jesus Christ which art in heaven (the Sky).
    Put your energy and skills to better use in the work of our Lord.


  5. @pic.

    So what’s the point. The video only shows one side . it doesn’t tell the whole story. In this case i see action but not the cause! So where is the complete story. Maybe Christians need to cease and decease trying to convert people of differing religious persuasion,to Christianity.It should occur to Christians that at some point and time it can cause resentment and even hostility and Christians have no one to blame than themselves. Other people’s religious laws and custom are just as important as Christians.Even Christ had to back off when he tried changing some of the mosaic laws and customs because he knew it was only going to cause more division among the people. Remember Paul in his mission told the churches that he had to become like those of differing mind when he was trying to convert them. For Christ sake live and let live,


  6. @nnuki, A false prophet, like you, ALWAYS* mixes truth with LIES* and as no LIE is of the TRUTH, you remain true to form!

    You see, my Saviour and Lord, The SON of God, the LORD JESUS CHRIST, Created the SUN, which He holds like an ATOM* in the palm of His Omnipotent hand, and is symbolized, as one of your FALSE dieties.

    Why don’t you stick to posting on the NIS board issues, where your knowledge base is obvious, and stop displaying your ignorance here on matters, that you do NOT understand!

    “Come with me and let us shine our lights before this misguided lot that they will see the error of their ways and glorify the Sun Jesus Christ which art in heaven (the Sky).
    Put your energy and skills to better use in the work of our Lord.”


  7. There was a time not so long ago The religious right spewed a lot of venom about Russia ,However after Roland Reagan got Mr Gorbachev to tear the wall down. the anti Russian rhetoric subsided. Now the christian Right have found a new enemy or so it seems in the Muslims. The politics of religion is one of deception..


  8. @Zoe

    CAIR in the US are already deeply imbeded in government agencies, even within the very WH; thanks to Obama, whom some believe to be a closet Muslim!
    ********
    You always do a good job on telling us what you believe, so we don’t want to hear what others think of Obama, we want to hear if you believe he is a closet Muslim
    BTW did CAIR become “imbeded” in the WH pre or post Rahm Emanuel?


    • Zoe has a point to so degree*. There seems to be a reluctance to call out Muslims who say and do things in Western society which break the law or stretch it when compared to what Christians can do in Islamic societies; in fact even in their societies That is the point here. Has nothing to do with the red herrings about Christian right. Even in Barbados there was talk about animals being used for sacrificial purposes with the ‘guts’ found on certain garbage heaps in Bridgetown and no outrage. Why the hell can’t we talk about the threat the barka poses? why can’t we question how a religious group can do what it is doing in France and no one has the right to question it especially if it is breaking the law? How do we propose to deal with it in Barbados when it raises it head?


  9. Paranoia! From time in humanity ever racial and religious group has been feared .This is nothing new . if falls into every race and creed and religion in Biblical. times Have we forgotten Hitler Now it is turn for the Muslims.Who would be next. It is a never ending cycle, Didn’t Jesus Christ felt the wrath of the masses because of his teachings and what others see as false. The drum never stops beating. There is no biggest threat to Western society that Crime and Greed bar non. What barka. Give me a break.


  10. David what I see in the Video are Muslims being feared because they were given religious right to pray at a certain time of the day. On the other hand the citizens .for whatever reason feel threatened by the Muslim action. What is there to generalize. Maybe we are watching different video .This same scene is played out on a daily bases even in Jerusalem without all the hoopla. I think as i said before . When people do understand they would be suspicious of others action .The opposers are seeing fears which in all possibility can be viewed as unfounded.So far all the Muslims are doing is praying and chanting is part of it.


  11. BTW David why don’t you ask Zoe about his condensing and bigoted approach of refering to Obama as “Muslim” as if to be Muslim is demonic .


    • @ac

      BU is dealing with the bigger issue of the integration of Muslim into Western/Christian society not personalization.


  12. then again i refused to take any cue or any teachings from the religious right because of their intolerance and holier than thou attitudes towards differing religious group. To me they are a threat to World Peace. Their agenda is only to divide something that they accuse the Muslims of.Different day same story.


  13. So what David . Every religious group has had to deal with fears and insecurities when entering another society. but in the long run the only thing that help us to cope with each other was tolerance and ear to listen and learn.Putting up unnecessary barracks never help. We as a society waste too much time on”the What If’ and very little on “What can be”. maybe it is just me. Take for example Haiti remember the hate and vitriol spewed against the people because of their religion. Think David ! Think ! what people don’t understand they see as a “threat” just human nature.


  14. i believe everyone should have the right to practise their beliefs witout fear of persecution and despite all the hoopla to qote AC this privilege is abundantly more evident in the demonic wstern world we like so much to criticise but yet enjoy. but back to the oint of freedom of beliefs/religion whatever we choose to call it. i believe that a faith/belief/ religion which stones women for satisfying their sexual desires oe encourages young men to commit suicide with a promise of cohabiting with virgins afterdeath stinks to high heaven. as- salam -alaikum.


  15. Can’t anyone see that display of praying in the streets in Paris is not at all religious ? There are mosques for praying like there are churches. This display is an ideology with a political message and threat. These people should be stopped from blocking the streets and asked to go to their religious houses to pray. If Muslims feel that they can come into another country and disrupt it with their religious beliefs in displays like these they should be sent back to their country of origin. I haven’t seen Christians or any other religious groups displaying this type of behaviour in Islamic countries. They should be arrested and deported immediately! This is how RELIEGION is used as a political tool by stupid ignorant people. France is a secular state and they must uphold it at any cost. Why did these Muslims come to France? Why is it that they want to change France? If anyone comes into my house they have to behave in a manner that is agreeable to me or they will have to leave. The bunch of so called prayers in the streets are just taunting the French authorities, and the authorities are afraid to implement the law. This is a difficult situation for France and they have to deal with it immediately or they will have a bigger problem on their hands.


  16. This is so funny…

    These countries boast of democracy, freedom of reliegion, speech and expression.
    They see the rest of the world as backward and 3rd rate and are trying to bring democracy and all that is good across the Earth by politics and war.
    The same 3rd rate people come into these countries, where the laws are democratic with the freedom to pratice their faith without fear……and they take advantage of it.
    France, the USA and the other countries are now being used by the same people they have used for centuries and it seems to be a hard pill to swallow.

    ………”Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me….”

    They also came with their beliefs and customs.


  17. @Techie

    One wonders if the West will be caught burning Muslims at the stake like we have been hearing the same happening to Christians in Islamic states.


  18. Last month Minister of International Transport George Hutson said Government would consider the establishment of a special facility enabling muslims to pray at the airport. – barbadostoday – 2011-07-15


  19. France’s most prominent Muslim leader has called for the number of mosques in the country to be doubled to 4,000, sparking fresh debate on the secular status established in French law a century ago. http://en.islamtoday.net/artshow-229-3697.htm

    Maybe this is why they have resorted to praying on the street.

    First they came for the communists,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.

    Then they came for me
    and there was no one left to speak out for me.


  20. @ pic says 1000 words:
    “Last month Minister of International Transport George Hutson said Government would consider the establishment of a special facility enabling muslims to pray at the airport. – barbadostoday – 2011-07-15”.

    If the government carries through with this promise then it is expected that similar facilities be accorded to other religious faiths. Such a one-sided move might be deemed “unconstitutional”. I hope the local” Christian Right Wingers” are monitoring this potential ploy to earn some kind of electoral advantage, especially in the Bridgetown area for a vulnerable sitting member. If this proposal materializes, I hope the likes of Zoe and his supporters make a fuss about it and challenge it in the Law Courts (unless, of course, the prayer room is made a multi-faith facility in which case Muslims will not use it after the kafirs).


  21. islandgal246 | October 18, 2011 at 7:02 AM |

    Tecchie very good point however one wonders how will this be handled.

    It can never be….

    To even try would be a hypocrisy of their (France) democracy.


  22. David | October 18, 2011 at 7:11 AM |

    @Techie

    One wonders if the West will be caught burning Muslims at the stake like we have been hearing the same happening to Christians in Islamic states.

    Come on David man……

    You can do better than that!
    Why would they have to got to such extreme measures?
    They have already turned most of its citizens into believing that ALL Muslims are terrorists in waiting.
    Islam is the reliegion of murder and violence so any Muslim must be looked at the same…..even the President..lol.
    They have demonised a people by words and actions…..(similar to what was done to the Japenese citizens)….what burning what…that is for the barbaric Muslims to do…..they were taught well during the Crusades.
    The more things change…….


  23. @ac

    nice little speech are you speaking to Muslims on this?

    Every religious group has had to deal with fears and insecurities when entering another society. but in the long run the only thing that help us to cope with each other was tolerance and ear to listen and learn.Putting up unnecessary barracks never help. We as a society waste too much time on”the What If’ and very little on “What can be”. maybe it is just me.

    Check out the below:
    ====
    A Colombian soccer player was detained in Saudi Arabia for publicly displaying religious tattoos, including one of Jesus, according to Colombia Reports.

    Juan Pablo Pino, who plays for Saudi Arabia’s Al Nasr soccer club, was arrested by the Saudi moral police in Riyadh when customers at a mall complained about the tattoos, which were visible because he was wearing a sleeveless shirt. Pino, 24, was at the mall with his pregnant wife, the Catholic News Agency reports.========

    This guy lucky he wasn’t praying to Jesus in their streets he might have been killed.


  24. Ha ha @ pic……

    Nice one…

    The moral police also arrests you for public display of affection..lol.

    When in Rome…..

    Democracy can really bite you in the ass eh?


  25. Breaking News 18:33 Noam Schalit hopes hea-
    JPost.comMiddle East Muslim Brotherhood text reveals scope of radical creed
    By OREN KESSLER
    02/09/2011 02:09

    Translated by Palestinian Media Watch, book details group’s goal of global Islamic conquest.
    Talkbacks ()
    One of the greatest beneficiaries of the unrest in Egypt has been the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Banned but tolerated for decades by successive Egyptian regimes, the Islamist movement is now emerging as a central player in the country’s resurgent opposition.

    RELATED:
    Playing chess with the Muslim Brotherhood
    The Region: Rulers by proxy
    Analysis: Dangerously underestimating the Muslim Brotherhood

    On Tuesday, two Brotherhood representatives participated in an opposition delegation that met with Vice President Omar Suleiman for the first set of talks over implementing political reforms.

    Pundits have portrayed the Brotherhood as uncompromising zealots or beneficent providers of social services that long-deprived Egyptians desperately need.

    But a translation released Tuesday of a 1995 book by the movement’s fifth official leader sheds light on just how Egypt’s Brotherhood views itself and its mission. Jihad is the Way is the last of a five-volume work, The Laws of Da’wa by Mustafa Mashhur, who headed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from 1996-2002.

    The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday saw excerpts of the text, compiled by Palestinian Media Watch founder Itamar Marcus and analyst Nan Jacques Zilberdik.

    They detail the Brotherhood’s objectives of advancing the global conquest of Islam and reestablishing the Islamic Caliphate, the public and private duties of jihad and the struggle Muslims must wage against Israel.

    The full text, translated by PMW, will be posted Wednesday on the organization’s website, Palwatch.org.

    “The Islamic ummah,” it says, referring to the supranational community of Muslims, “can regain its power and be liberated and assume its rightful position which was intended by Allah, as the most exalted nation among men, as the leaders of humanity.”

    Elsewhere, it exhorts Muslims, “Know your status, and believe firmly that you are the masters of the world, even if your enemies desire your degradation.”

    Marcus spoke to the Post about what he views as the danger of downplaying the Brotherhood’s ideology, or expecting it to moderate its objectives after being allowed into the political process. The movement differs from international terror groups like Al-Qaida, he said, only in tactics, not in its goals.

    Marcus cited passages in the text that urge Muslims to wage jihad only when circumstances are ripe.

    “The Brotherhood is not rushed by youth’s enthusiasm into immature and unplanned action which will not alter the bad reality and may even harm the Islamic activity, and will benefit the people of falsehood,” Mashhur wrote.

    “One should know that it is not necessary that the Muslims repel every attack or damage caused by the enemies of Allah immediately, but [only] when ability and the circumstances are fit to it.”

    Jihad is the Way explicitly endorses the reinstatement of a worldwide Islamic regime.

    “It should be known that jihad and preparation towards jihad are not only for the purpose of fending off assaults and attacks of Allah’s enemies from Muslims, but are also for the purpose of realizing the great task of establishing an Islamic state and strengthening the religion and spreading it around the world.”

    “Jihad for Allah,” Mashhur wrote, “is not limited to the specific region of the Islamic countries, since the Muslim homeland is one and is not divided, and the banner of Jihad has already been raised in some of its parts, and shall continue to be raised, with the help of Allah, until every inch of the land of Islam will be liberated, and the State of Islam established.”

    Hassan al-Banna, the movement’s founder, “felt the grave danger overshadowing the Muslims and the urgent need and obligation which Islam places on every Muslim, man and woman, to act in order to restore the Islamic Caliphate and to reestablish the Islamic state on strong foundations.”

    Despite its universal message, the book attaches particular significance to the Holy Land.

    “Honorable brothers have achieved shahada [martyrdom] on the soil of beloved Palestine, during the years ’47 and ’48, in their jihad against the criminal, thieving, gangs of Zion,” it says.

    “Still today, memory of them horrifies the Jews and the name of the Muslim Brotherhood terrifies them.”

    Elsewhere, Mushhar wrote, “The imam and shahid Hassan Al-Banna is considered as a martyr of Palestine, even if he was not killed on its soil … in all his writings and conversations, he always urged towards jihad and aroused the desire for seeking martyrdom … he did not content himself only with speech and writing, and when the opportunity arrived for jihad in Palestine, he hurried and seized it.”

    Wielding a broader brush, Mashhur wrote, “The problems of the Islamic world – such as in Palestine, Afghanistan, Syria, Eritrea or the Philippines – are not issues of territories and nations, but of faith and religion.

    They are the problems of Islam and all Muslims, and their resolution cannot be negotiated and bargained by recognizing the enemy’s right to the Islamic land he stole, and therefore there is no other option but jihad for Allah, and this is why jihad is the way.”

    Breaking News 18:33 Noam Schalit hopes hea-
    JPost.comMiddle East Muslim Brotherhood text reveals scope of radical creed
    By OREN KESSLER
    02/09/2011 02:09

    Translated by Palestinian Media Watch, book details group’s goal of global Islamic conquest.
    Talkbacks ()
    One of the greatest beneficiaries of the unrest in Egypt has been the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Banned but tolerated for decades by successive Egyptian regimes, the Islamist movement is now emerging as a central player in the country’s resurgent opposition.

    RELATED:
    Playing chess with the Muslim Brotherhood
    The Region: Rulers by proxy
    Analysis: Dangerously underestimating the Muslim Brotherhood

    On Tuesday, two Brotherhood representatives participated in an opposition delegation that met with Vice President Omar Suleiman for the first set of talks over implementing political reforms.

    Pundits have portrayed the Brotherhood as uncompromising zealots or beneficent providers of social services that long-deprived Egyptians desperately need.

    But a translation released Tuesday of a 1995 book by the movement’s fifth official leader sheds light on just how Egypt’s Brotherhood views itself and its mission. Jihad is the Way is the last of a five-volume work, The Laws of Da’wa by Mustafa Mashhur, who headed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from 1996-2002.

    The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday saw excerpts of the text, compiled by Palestinian Media Watch founder Itamar Marcus and analyst Nan Jacques Zilberdik.

    They detail the Brotherhood’s objectives of advancing the global conquest of Islam and reestablishing the Islamic Caliphate, the public and private duties of jihad and the struggle Muslims must wage against Israel.

    The full text, translated by PMW, will be posted Wednesday on the organization’s website, Palwatch.org.

    “The Islamic ummah,” it says, referring to the supranational community of Muslims, “can regain its power and be liberated and assume its rightful position which was intended by Allah, as the most exalted nation among men, as the leaders of humanity.”

    Elsewhere, it exhorts Muslims, “Know your status, and believe firmly that you are the masters of the world, even if your enemies desire your degradation.”

    Marcus spoke to the Post about what he views as the danger of downplaying the Brotherhood’s ideology, or expecting it to moderate its objectives after being allowed into the political process. The movement differs from international terror groups like Al-Qaida, he said, only in tactics, not in its goals.

    Marcus cited passages in the text that urge Muslims to wage jihad only when circumstances are ripe.

    “The Brotherhood is not rushed by youth’s enthusiasm into immature and unplanned action which will not alter the bad reality and may even harm the Islamic activity, and will benefit the people of falsehood,” Mashhur wrote.

    “One should know that it is not necessary that the Muslims repel every attack or damage caused by the enemies of Allah immediately, but [only] when ability and the circumstances are fit to it.”

    Jihad is the Way explicitly endorses the reinstatement of a worldwide Islamic regime.

    “It should be known that jihad and preparation towards jihad are not only for the purpose of fending off assaults and attacks of Allah’s enemies from Muslims, but are also for the purpose of realizing the great task of establishing an Islamic state and strengthening the religion and spreading it around the world.”

    “Jihad for Allah,” Mashhur wrote, “is not limited to the specific region of the Islamic countries, since the Muslim homeland is one and is not divided, and the banner of Jihad has already been raised in some of its parts, and shall continue to be raised, with the help of Allah, until every inch of the land of Islam will be liberated, and the State of Islam established.”

    Hassan al-Banna, the movement’s founder, “felt the grave danger overshadowing the Muslims and the urgent need and obligation which Islam places on every Muslim, man and woman, to act in order to restore the Islamic Caliphate and to reestablish the Islamic state on strong foundations.”

    Despite its universal message, the book attaches particular significance to the Holy Land.

    “Honorable brothers have achieved shahada [martyrdom] on the soil of beloved Palestine, during the years ’47 and ’48, in their jihad against the criminal, thieving, gangs of Zion,” it says.

    “Still today, memory of them horrifies the Jews and the name of the Muslim Brotherhood terrifies them.”

    Elsewhere, Mushhar wrote, “The imam and shahid Hassan Al-Banna is considered as a martyr of Palestine, even if he was not killed on its soil … in all his writings and conversations, he always urged towards jihad and aroused the desire for seeking martyrdom … he did not content himself only with speech and writing, and when the opportunity arrived for jihad in Palestine, he hurried and seized it.”

    Wielding a broader brush, Mashhur wrote, “The problems of the Islamic world – such as in Palestine, Afghanistan, Syria, Eritrea or the Philippines – are not issues of territories and nations, but of faith and religion.

    They are the problems of Islam and all Muslims, and their resolution cannot be negotiated and bargained by recognizing the enemy’s right to the Islamic land he stole, and therefore there is no other option but jihad for Allah, and this is why jihad is the way.”

    Breaking News 18:33 Noam Schalit hopes hea-
    JPost.comMiddle East Muslim Brotherhood text reveals scope of radical creed
    By OREN KESSLER
    02/09/2011 02:09

    Translated by Palestinian Media Watch, book details group’s goal of global Islamic conquest.
    Talkbacks ()
    One of the greatest beneficiaries of the unrest in Egypt has been the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Banned but tolerated for decades by successive Egyptian regimes, the Islamist movement is now emerging as a central player in the country’s resurgent opposition.

    RELATED:
    Playing chess with the Muslim Brotherhood
    The Region: Rulers by proxy
    Analysis: Dangerously underestimating the Muslim Brotherhood

    On Tuesday, two Brotherhood representatives participated in an opposition delegation that met with Vice President Omar Suleiman for the first set of talks over implementing political reforms.

    Pundits have portrayed the Brotherhood as uncompromising zealots or beneficent providers of social services that long-deprived Egyptians desperately need.

    But a translation released Tuesday of a 1995 book by the movement’s fifth official leader sheds light on just how Egypt’s Brotherhood views itself and its mission. Jihad is the Way is the last of a five-volume work, The Laws of Da’wa by Mustafa Mashhur, who headed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from 1996-2002.

    The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday saw excerpts of the text, compiled by Palestinian Media Watch founder Itamar Marcus and analyst Nan Jacques Zilberdik.

    They detail the Brotherhood’s objectives of advancing the global conquest of Islam and reestablishing the Islamic Caliphate, the public and private duties of jihad and the struggle Muslims must wage against Israel.

    The full text, translated by PMW, will be posted Wednesday on the organization’s website, Palwatch.org.

    “The Islamic ummah,” it says, referring to the supranational community of Muslims, “can regain its power and be liberated and assume its rightful position which was intended by Allah, as the most exalted nation among men, as the leaders of humanity.”

    Elsewhere, it exhorts Muslims, “Know your status, and believe firmly that you are the masters of the world, even if your enemies desire your degradation.”

    Marcus spoke to the Post about what he views as the danger of downplaying the Brotherhood’s ideology, or expecting it to moderate its objectives after being allowed into the political process. The movement differs from international terror groups like Al-Qaida, he said, only in tactics, not in its goals.

    Marcus cited passages in the text that urge Muslims to wage jihad only when circumstances are ripe.

    “The Brotherhood is not rushed by youth’s enthusiasm into immature and unplanned action which will not alter the bad reality and may even harm the Islamic activity, and will benefit the people of falsehood,” Mashhur wrote.

    “One should know that it is not necessary that the Muslims repel every attack or damage caused by the enemies of Allah immediately, but [only] when ability and the circumstances are fit to it.”

    Jihad is the Way explicitly endorses the reinstatement of a worldwide Islamic regime.

    “It should be known that jihad and preparation towards jihad are not only for the purpose of fending off assaults and attacks of Allah’s enemies from Muslims, but are also for the purpose of realizing the great task of establishing an Islamic state and strengthening the religion and spreading it around the world.”

    “Jihad for Allah,” Mashhur wrote, “is not limited to the specific region of the Islamic countries, since the Muslim homeland is one and is not divided, and the banner of Jihad has already been raised in some of its parts, and shall continue to be raised, with the help of Allah, until every inch of the land of Islam will be liberated, and the State of Islam established.”

    Hassan al-Banna, the movement’s founder, “felt the grave danger overshadowing the Muslims and the urgent need and obligation which Islam places on every Muslim, man and woman, to act in order to restore the Islamic Caliphate and to reestablish the Islamic state on strong foundations.”

    Despite its universal message, the book attaches particular significance to the Holy Land.

    “Honorable brothers have achieved shahada [martyrdom] on the soil of beloved Palestine, during the years ’47 and ’48, in their jihad against the criminal, thieving, gangs of Zion,” it says.

    “Still today, memory of them horrifies the Jews and the name of the Muslim Brotherhood terrifies them.”

    Elsewhere, Mushhar wrote, “The imam and shahid Hassan Al-Banna is considered as a martyr of Palestine, even if he was not killed on its soil … in all his writings and conversations, he always urged towards jihad and aroused the desire for seeking martyrdom … he did not content himself only with speech and writing, and when the opportunity arrived for jihad in Palestine, he hurried and seized it.”

    Wielding a broader brush, Mashhur wrote, “The problems of the Islamic world – such as in Palestine, Afghanistan, Syria, Eritrea or the Philippines – are not issues of territories and nations, but of faith and religion.

    They are the problems of Islam and all Muslims, and their resolution cannot be negotiated and bargained by recognizing the enemy’s right to the Islamic land he stole, and therefore there is no other option but jihad for Allah, and this is why jihad is the way.”

    Breaking News 18:33 Noam Schalit hopes hea-
    JPost.comMiddle East Muslim Brotherhood text reveals scope of radical creed
    By OREN KESSLER
    02/09/2011 02:09

    Translated by Palestinian Media Watch, book details group’s goal of global Islamic conquest.
    Talkbacks ()
    One of the greatest beneficiaries of the unrest in Egypt has been the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Banned but tolerated for decades by successive Egyptian regimes, the Islamist movement is now emerging as a central player in the country’s resurgent opposition.

    RELATED:
    Playing chess with the Muslim Brotherhood
    The Region: Rulers by proxy
    Analysis: Dangerously underestimating the Muslim Brotherhood

    On Tuesday, two Brotherhood representatives participated in an opposition delegation that met with Vice President Omar Suleiman for the first set of talks over implementing political reforms.

    Pundits have portrayed the Brotherhood as uncompromising zealots or beneficent providers of social services that long-deprived Egyptians desperately need.

    But a translation released Tuesday of a 1995 book by the movement’s fifth official leader sheds light on just how Egypt’s Brotherhood views itself and its mission. Jihad is the Way is the last of a five-volume work, The Laws of Da’wa by Mustafa Mashhur, who headed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from 1996-2002.

    The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday saw excerpts of the text, compiled by Palestinian Media Watch founder Itamar Marcus and analyst Nan Jacques Zilberdik.

    They detail the Brotherhood’s objectives of advancing the global conquest of Islam and reestablishing the Islamic Caliphate, the public and private duties of jihad and the struggle Muslims must wage against Israel.

    The full text, translated by PMW, will be posted Wednesday on the organization’s website, Palwatch.org.

    “The Islamic ummah,” it says, referring to the supranational community of Muslims, “can regain its power and be liberated and assume its rightful position which was intended by Allah, as the most exalted nation among men, as the leaders of humanity.”

    Elsewhere, it exhorts Muslims, “Know your status, and believe firmly that you are the masters of the world, even if your enemies desire your degradation.”

    Marcus spoke to the Post about what he views as the danger of downplaying the Brotherhood’s ideology, or expecting it to moderate its objectives after being allowed into the political process. The movement differs from international terror groups like Al-Qaida, he said, only in tactics, not in its goals.

    Marcus cited passages in the text that urge Muslims to wage jihad only when circumstances are ripe.

    “The Brotherhood is not rushed by youth’s enthusiasm into immature and unplanned action which will not alter the bad reality and may even harm the Islamic activity, and will benefit the people of falsehood,” Mashhur wrote.

    “One should know that it is not necessary that the Muslims repel every attack or damage caused by the enemies of Allah immediately, but [only] when ability and the circumstances are fit to it.”

    Jihad is the Way explicitly endorses the reinstatement of a worldwide Islamic regime.

    “It should be known that jihad and preparation towards jihad are not only for the purpose of fending off assaults and attacks of Allah’s enemies from Muslims, but are also for the purpose of realizing the great task of establishing an Islamic state and strengthening the religion and spreading it around the world.”

    “Jihad for Allah,” Mashhur wrote, “is not limited to the specific region of the Islamic countries, since the Muslim homeland is one and is not divided, and the banner of Jihad has already been raised in some of its parts, and shall continue to be raised, with the help of Allah, until every inch of the land of Islam will be liberated, and the State of Islam established.”

    Hassan al-Banna, the movement’s founder, “felt the grave danger overshadowing the Muslims and the urgent need and obligation which Islam places on every Muslim, man and woman, to act in order to restore the Islamic Caliphate and to reestablish the Islamic state on strong foundations.”

    Despite its universal message, the book attaches particular significance to the Holy Land.

    “Honorable brothers have achieved shahada [martyrdom] on the soil of beloved Palestine, during the years ’47 and ’48, in their jihad against the criminal, thieving, gangs of Zion,” it says.

    “Still today, memory of them horrifies the Jews and the name of the Muslim Brotherhood terrifies them.”

    Elsewhere, Mushhar wrote, “The imam and shahid Hassan Al-Banna is considered as a martyr of Palestine, even if he was not killed on its soil … in all his writings and conversations, he always urged towards jihad and aroused the desire for seeking martyrdom … he did not content himself only with speech and writing, and when the opportunity arrived for jihad in Palestine, he hurried and seized it.”

    Wielding a broader brush, Mashhur wrote, “The problems of the Islamic world – such as in Palestine, Afghanistan, Syria, Eritrea or the Philippines – are not issues of territories and nations, but of faith and religion.

    They are the problems of Islam and all Muslims, and their resolution cannot be negotiated and bargained by recognizing the enemy’s right to the Islamic land he stole, and therefore there is no other option but jihad for Allah, and this is why jihad is the way.”

    Breaking News 18:33 Noam Schalit hopes hea-
    JPost.comMiddle East Muslim Brotherhood text reveals scope of radical creed
    By OREN KESSLER
    02/09/2011 02:09

    Translated by Palestinian Media Watch, book details group’s goal of global Islamic conquest.
    Talkbacks ()
    One of the greatest beneficiaries of the unrest in Egypt has been the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Banned but tolerated for decades by successive Egyptian regimes, the Islamist movement is now emerging as a central player in the country’s resurgent opposition.

    RELATED:
    Playing chess with the Muslim Brotherhood
    The Region: Rulers by proxy
    Analysis: Dangerously underestimating the Muslim Brotherhood

    On Tuesday, two Brotherhood representatives participated in an opposition delegation that met with Vice President Omar Suleiman for the first set of talks over implementing political reforms.

    Pundits have portrayed the Brotherhood as uncompromising zealots or beneficent providers of social services that long-deprived Egyptians desperately need.

    But a translation released Tuesday of a 1995 book by the movement’s fifth official leader sheds light on just how Egypt’s Brotherhood views itself and its mission. Jihad is the Way is the last of a five-volume work, The Laws of Da’wa by Mustafa Mashhur, who headed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from 1996-2002.

    The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday saw excerpts of the text, compiled by Palestinian Media Watch founder Itamar Marcus and analyst Nan Jacques Zilberdik.

    They detail the Brotherhood’s objectives of advancing the global conquest of Islam and reestablishing the Islamic Caliphate, the public and private duties of jihad and the struggle Muslims must wage against Israel.

    The full text, translated by PMW, will be posted Wednesday on the organization’s website, Palwatch.org.

    “The Islamic ummah,” it says, referring to the supranational community of Muslims, “can regain its power and be liberated and assume its rightful position which was intended by Allah, as the most exalted nation among men, as the leaders of humanity.”

    Elsewhere, it exhorts Muslims, “Know your status, and believe firmly that you are the masters of the world, even if your enemies desire your degradation.”

    Marcus spoke to the Post about what he views as the danger of downplaying the Brotherhood’s ideology, or expecting it to moderate its objectives after being allowed into the political process. The movement differs from international terror groups like Al-Qaida, he said, only in tactics, not in its goals.

    Marcus cited passages in the text that urge Muslims to wage jihad only when circumstances are ripe.

    “The Brotherhood is not rushed by youth’s enthusiasm into immature and unplanned action which will not alter the bad reality and may even harm the Islamic activity, and will benefit the people of falsehood,” Mashhur wrote.

    “One should know that it is not necessary that the Muslims repel every attack or damage caused by the enemies of Allah immediately, but [only] when ability and the circumstances are fit to it.”

    Jihad is the Way explicitly endorses the reinstatement of a worldwide Islamic regime.

    “It should be known that jihad and preparation towards jihad are not only for the purpose of fending off assaults and attacks of Allah’s enemies from Muslims, but are also for the purpose of realizing the great task of establishing an Islamic state and strengthening the religion and spreading it around the world.”

    “Jihad for Allah,” Mashhur wrote, “is not limited to the specific region of the Islamic countries, since the Muslim homeland is one and is not divided, and the banner of Jihad has already been raised in some of its parts, and shall continue to be raised, with the help of Allah, until every inch of the land of Islam will be liberated, and the State of Islam established.”

    Hassan al-Banna, the movement’s founder, “felt the grave danger overshadowing the Muslims and the urgent need and obligation which Islam places on every Muslim, man and woman, to act in order to restore the Islamic Caliphate and to reestablish the Islamic state on strong foundations.”

    Despite its universal message, the book attaches particular significance to the Holy Land.

    “Honorable brothers have achieved shahada [martyrdom] on the soil of beloved Palestine, during the years ’47 and ’48, in their jihad against the criminal, thieving, gangs of Zion,” it says.

    “Still today, memory of them horrifies the Jews and the name of the Muslim Brotherhood terrifies them.”

    Elsewhere, Mushhar wrote, “The imam and shahid Hassan Al-Banna is considered as a martyr of Palestine, even if he was not killed on its soil … in all his writings and conversations, he always urged towards jihad and aroused the desire for seeking martyrdom … he did not content himself only with speech and writing, and when the opportunity arrived for jihad in Palestine, he hurried and seized it.”

    Wielding a broader brush, Mashhur wrote, “The problems of the Islamic world – such as in Palestine, Afghanistan, Syria, Eritrea or the Philippines – are not issues of territories and nations, but of faith and religion.

    They are the problems of Islam and all Muslims, and their resolution cannot be negotiated and bargained by recognizing the enemy’s right to the Islamic land he stole, and therefore there is no other option but jihad for Allah, and this is why jihad is the way.”

    JPost.comMiddle East Muslim Brotherhood text reveals scope of radical creed
    By OREN KESSLER
    02/09/2011 02:09

    Translated by Palestinian Media Watch, book details group’s goal of global Islamic conquest.
    Talkbacks ()
    One of the greatest beneficiaries of the unrest in Egypt has been the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Banned but tolerated for decades by successive Egyptian regimes, the Islamist movement is now emerging as a central player in the country’s resurgent opposition.

    RELATED:
    Playing chess with the Muslim Brotherhood
    The Region: Rulers by proxy
    Analysis: Dangerously underestimating the Muslim Brotherhood

    On Tuesday, two Brotherhood representatives participated in an opposition delegation that met with Vice President Omar Suleiman for the first set of talks over implementing political reforms.

    Pundits have portrayed the Brotherhood as uncompromising zealots or beneficent providers of social services that long-deprived Egyptians desperately need.

    But a translation released Tuesday of a 1995 book by the movement’s fifth official leader sheds light on just how Egypt’s Brotherhood views itself and its mission. Jihad is the Way is the last of a five-volume work, The Laws of Da’wa by Mustafa Mashhur, who headed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from 1996-2002.

    The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday saw excerpts of the text, compiled by Palestinian Media Watch founder Itamar Marcus and analyst Nan Jacques Zilberdik.

    They detail the Brotherhood’s objectives of advancing the global conquest of Islam and reestablishing the Islamic Caliphate, the public and private duties of jihad and the struggle Muslims must wage against Israel.

    The full text, translated by PMW, will be posted Wednesday on the organization’s website, Palwatch.org.

    “The Islamic ummah,” it says, referring to the supranational community of Muslims, “can regain its power and be liberated and assume its rightful position which was intended by Allah, as the most exalted nation among men, as the leaders of humanity.”

    Elsewhere, it exhorts Muslims, “Know your status, and believe firmly that you are the masters of the world, even if your enemies desire your degradation.”

    Marcus spoke to the Post about what he views as the danger of downplaying the Brotherhood’s ideology, or expecting it to moderate its objectives after being allowed into the political process. The movement differs from international terror groups like Al-Qaida, he said, only in tactics, not in its goals.

    Marcus cited passages in the text that urge Muslims to wage jihad only when circumstances are ripe.

    “The Brotherhood is not rushed by youth’s enthusiasm into immature and unplanned action which will not alter the bad reality and may even harm the Islamic activity, and will benefit the people of falsehood,” Mashhur wrote.

    “One should know that it is not necessary that the Muslims repel every attack or damage caused by the enemies of Allah immediately, but [only] when ability and the circumstances are fit to it.”
    NOTE CAREFULLY!
    Jihad is the Way explicitly endorses the reinstatement of a worldwide Islamic regime.

    “It should be known that jihad and preparation towards jihad are not only for the purpose of fending off assaults and attacks of Allah’s enemies from Muslims, but are also for the purpose of realizing the great task of establishing an Islamic state and strengthening the religion and spreading it around the world.”

    “Jihad for Allah,” Mashhur wrote, “is not limited to the specific region of the Islamic countries, since the Muslim homeland is one and is not divided, and the banner of Jihad has already been raised in some of its parts, and shall continue to be raised, with the help of Allah, until every inch of the land of Islam will be liberated, and the State of Islam established.”

    Hassan al-Banna, the movement’s founder, “felt the grave danger overshadowing the Muslims and the urgent need and obligation which Islam places on every Muslim, man and woman, to act in order to restore the Islamic Caliphate and to reestablish the Islamic state on strong foundations.”

    Despite its universal message, the book attaches particular significance to the Holy Land.

    “Honorable brothers have achieved shahada [martyrdom] on the soil of beloved Palestine, during the years ’47 and ’48, in their jihad against the criminal, thieving, gangs of Zion,” it says.

    “Still today, memory of them horrifies the Jews and the name of the Muslim Brotherhood terrifies them.”

    Elsewhere, Mushhar wrote, “The imam and shahid Hassan Al-Banna is considered as a martyr of Palestine, even if he was not killed on its soil … in all his writings and conversations, he always urged towards jihad and aroused the desire for seeking martyrdom … he did not content himself only with speech and writing, and when the opportunity arrived for jihad in Palestine, he hurried and seized it.”

    Wielding a broader brush, Mashhur wrote, “The problems of the Islamic world – such as in Palestine, Afghanistan, Syria, Eritrea or the Philippines – are not issues of territories and nations, but of faith and religion.

    They are the problems of Islam and all Muslims, and their resolution cannot be negotiated and bargained by recognizing the enemy’s right to the Islamic land he stole, and therefore there is no other option but jihad for Allah, and this is why jihad is the way.”

    A sinister, evil, worldwide AGENDA, to be acheived one way of the other, either through CULTURAL Jihad, a subtle infiltration of the countries they are given the privilege to reside in, or JIHAD BY FORCE!

    Breaking News 18:33 Noam Schalit hopes hea-
    JPost.comMiddle East Muslim Brotherhood text reveals scope of radical creed
    By OREN KESSLER
    02/09/2011 02:09

    Translated by Palestinian Media Watch, book details group’s goal of global Islamic conquest.
    Talkbacks ()
    One of the greatest beneficiaries of the unrest in Egypt has been the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Banned but tolerated for decades by successive Egyptian regimes, the Islamist movement is now emerging as a central player in the country’s resurgent opposition.

    RELATED:
    Playing chess with the Muslim Brotherhood
    The Region: Rulers by proxy
    Analysis: Dangerously underestimating the Muslim Brotherhood

    On Tuesday, two Brotherhood representatives participated in an opposition delegation that met with Vice President Omar Suleiman for the first set of talks over implementing political reforms.

    Pundits have portrayed the Brotherhood as uncompromising zealots or beneficent providers of social services that long-deprived Egyptians desperately need.

    But a translation released Tuesday of a 1995 book by the movement’s fifth official leader sheds light on just how Egypt’s Brotherhood views itself and its mission. Jihad is the Way is the last of a five-volume work, The Laws of Da’wa by Mustafa Mashhur, who headed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from 1996-2002.

    The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday saw excerpts of the text, compiled by Palestinian Media Watch founder Itamar Marcus and analyst Nan Jacques Zilberdik.

    They detail the Brotherhood’s objectives of advancing the global conquest of Islam and reestablishing the Islamic Caliphate, the public and private duties of jihad and the struggle Muslims must wage against Israel.

    The full text, translated by PMW, will be posted Wednesday on the organization’s website, Palwatch.org.

    “The Islamic ummah,” it says, referring to the supranational community of Muslims, “can regain its power and be liberated and assume its rightful position which was intended by Allah, as the most exalted nation among men, as the leaders of humanity.”

    Elsewhere, it exhorts Muslims, “Know your status, and believe firmly that you are the masters of the world, even if your enemies desire your degradation.”

    Marcus spoke to the Post about what he views as the danger of downplaying the Brotherhood’s ideology, or expecting it to moderate its objectives after being allowed into the political process. The movement differs from international terror groups like Al-Qaida, he said, only in tactics, not in its goals.

    Marcus cited passages in the text that urge Muslims to wage jihad only when circumstances are ripe.

    “The Brotherhood is not rushed by youth’s enthusiasm into immature and unplanned action which will not alter the bad reality and may even harm the Islamic activity, and will benefit the people of falsehood,” Mashhur wrote.

    “One should know that it is not necessary that the Muslims repel every attack or damage caused by the enemies of Allah immediately, but [only] when ability and the circumstances are fit to it.”

    Jihad is the Way explicitly endorses the reinstatement of a worldwide Islamic regime.

    “It should be known that jihad and preparation towards jihad are not only for the purpose of fending off assaults and attacks of Allah’s enemies from Muslims, but are also for the purpose of realizing the great task of establishing an Islamic state and strengthening the religion and spreading it around the world.”

    “Jihad for Allah,” Mashhur wrote, “is not limited to the specific region of the Islamic countries, since the Muslim homeland is one and is not divided, and the banner of Jihad has already been raised in some of its parts, and shall continue to be raised, with the help of Allah, until every inch of the land of Islam will be liberated, and the State of Islam established.”

    Hassan al-Banna, the movement’s founder, “felt the grave danger overshadowing the Muslims and the urgent need and obligation which Islam places on every Muslim, man and woman, to act in order to restore the Islamic Caliphate and to reestablish the Islamic state on strong foundations.”

    Despite its universal message, the book attaches particular significance to the Holy Land.

    “Honorable brothers have achieved shahada [martyrdom] on the soil of beloved Palestine, during the years ’47 and ’48, in their jihad against the criminal, thieving, gangs of Zion,” it says.

    “Still today, memory of them horrifies the Jews and the name of the Muslim Brotherhood terrifies them.”

    Elsewhere, Mushhar wrote, “The imam and shahid Hassan Al-Banna is considered as a martyr of Palestine, even if he was not killed on its soil … in all his writings and conversations, he always urged towards jihad and aroused the desire for seeking martyrdom … he did not content himself only with speech and writing, and when the opportunity arrived for jihad in Palestine, he hurried and seized it.”

    Wielding a broader brush, Mashhur wrote, “The problems of the Islamic world – such as in Palestine, Afghanistan, Syria, Eritrea or the Philippines – are not issues of territories and nations, but of faith and religion.

    They are the problems of Islam and all Muslims, and their resolution cannot be negotiated and bargained by recognizing the enemy’s right to the Islamic land he stole, and therefore there is no other option but jihad for Allah, and this is why jihad is the way.”


  26. Please note, this repetitive posting of this was NOT my intention, not at all; something crazy happened, that I’ve never experienced before while posting on BU, while clicking the submit tab!


  27. Muslim Brotherhood In Our White House – Vetting Obama
    Posted on August 14, 2011
    by 1dragon| Leave a comment
    Noisy Room

    By: AJ

    Stated by a Muslim Liberal Democrat Marxist who worked and campaigned for Barack Obama:

    “I want you to focus and I hope you can talk to your families and your friends and your neighbors that when someone says that there is a penetration of Jihadi Islamists within Canadian society, do not dismiss it as some right-wing xenophobic racist rant.

    Today in the White House there are three members of the Muslim Brotherhood that influence Obama’s policy.

    Rashad Hussain

    ■One is Rashad Hussain of Indian origin who is the American Ambassador to the 52 nation organization of Islamic countries.
    ■Dialia Mogahed who writes his speech who comes from the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
    ■Just day before yesterday, another woman, an academic, was appointed in that circle.
    This is happening while we sit silent and I say that as a Liberal Democrat, as someone who worked and campaigned for Barack Obama.

    We have evidence in Canada of this penetration that’s going on.”

    Tarek Fatah, a moderate Muslim advocate and Liberal Democrat Marxist, told an auditorium filled with thousands of Canadians at Ideacity that “the religion of Islam is being used as a tool by a fascist force.”

    Americans need to know, as Tarek clearly states…

    “Instead of bringing victory over the fascist forces of the Muslim Brotherhood, we now recognize that their infiltration is right up to the American White House, but we can’t say that.”

    “Today we are fighting another idea of Islamo-fascism that has shut our mouths and we can’t speak because we’re too scared that someone may turn around and call us a racist. And mind you, everyday as I speak, a few dozen Muslims would have been killed by now by these Jihadi’s.”

    He says that he has seen his own “fellow travelers betray the cause of Social Justice and align themselves with the most horrendous fascists that you could ever meet.” The far-left has joined with radical Islamists and they are working together. Recall that Glenn Beck warned of this in January 2011 and now, from inside the Liberal Democratic movement, Tarek sees it with his own eyes and speaks out about it.

    America’s government-controlled media fail to report the truth, which is why many Americans research, self-educate and become citizen journalists in order to bring you the truth. On this subject, we have previously explained that Islamism is not a religion; it is a complete system comprised of totalitarian rule over day-to-day life – political, financial, legal, social, cultural and religious – and its mission is Jihad. Tarek explains this too.

    “Please understand that there is a distinction between Islam as a faith which, along with every other religion, has its own problems, and “Islamism,” which is an ideology, a political ideology, that says that Western Civilization has to be destroyed.”

    “The books that are distributed at Eaton Centre and the Dundas Square clearly state by the founders of the Muslim Brotherhood that all Western countries have to be destroyed.”

    Obama’s embrace of those who hate America and actively pursue the destruction of our country from within and externally has been on display for quite awhile and it’s time we see, speak and hear the truth.

    Obama brought the Muslim Brotherhood into our White House; no one but Obama did this. He brought George Soros into our White House, an anti-Semite who aided the Nazi’s and a financial terrorist who is making billions off the economic misery Obama has purposely caused in our country. Many Americans fail to understand this while the media hides the truth. From corrupt dictators (e.g. inviting President Ali Bongo of Gabon to the White House) to domestic terrorists (e.g. Bill Ayers) to self-proclaimed Communist/Marxist (e.g. Van Jones), these, and many more like them, are the people Obama brings into our White House… these are his friends and associates.

    Do you know people like this? Do you work with people like this? Would you appoint three Muslim Brotherhood members to the White House if you were President?

    The Muslim Brotherhood creed:

    “Allah is our objective, the prophet is our leader, the Koran is our law, Jihad is our way, dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.”

    “Jihad is our way” explicitly endorses the reinstatement of a worldwide Islamic regime.

    As Tarek says, talk to your families, friends and neighbors; show them the warning from this Liberal Democrat Marxist (video below).

    “Why is it happening? Because we are not speaking out. And the dangers we face… if we do not confront them today, our children will not forgive us tomorrow.”

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  28. In the LIGHT and TEETH of the above revealed TRUTH, re the Islamists JIHADISTS, worldwide AGENDA, the hard CORE LEFTISTS, the BU scoffing BILDGE PUMPERS, continue in their vehement IGNORANCE, unable to make any rational, objective, sense of the FACTS; such is the endarkened minds and intellect of the foolish!


  29. @ David BU….

    Now you can see from the long post above by the holder of the ‘truth’ Zoe, why there is no need to burn them at the stake.
    *sigh*


  30. @ Zoe:

    To quote David:- “Even in Barbados there was talk about animals being used for sacrificial purposes with the ‘guts’ found on certain garbage heaps in Bridgetown and no outrage. Why the hell can’t we talk about the threat the barka poses? why can’t we question how a religious group can do what it is doing in France and no one has the right to question it especially if it is breaking the law? How do we propose to deal with it in Barbados when it raises it head?”.

    When are you going to start focusing on some of the issues David raised in his piece as highlighted above? Let us concentrate on what is taking place under our very noses and on our doorstep.

    What do you propose we do to avoid the seemingly dangerous pitfalls that Islam & sharia law can bring to our little Christian nation? Please I beg you, don’t regurgitate a lot of hate-filled ad hominems or mouthfuls of religious right wing propaganda. Come up with practical/workable suggestions to curb (in your view) this growing threat to our Christian sanctity

    I know you live in a religious cocoon and watch Satan’s world go by (you do read the ramblings and cries of woe of the liars and the damned writhing and burning in other cells in Hell). But it would be nice if you can step outside occasionally and breathe some intellectual fresh air. Your fervent contributions to other topics and issues on societal concerns will be ravishingly anticipated to quench the thirst of those cut off from god.


  31. @millerthe

    Thanks!

    We tend to internationalize our discussions, unnecessarily so. We can use local effort to fashion our own narrative no?


  32. To all the religious Right Wingers The Road to Hell is paved with bigotry , hatred and intolerance.

    The above video is produce by the Christian Broadcasting Network with Pat Robinson as it leader . Of all the people who should stand in the way of religious freedom and tolerance one would expect that those who have and had similiar experiences in Christendom would be a catalyst for freedom for other religions .
    They are good and bad in every religion but what is morally wrong is when those in leadership fall prey to their political will and not to the “will’ of God and always quick to judge even more using a sweeping brush to paint an entire nation of people because of the few bad. How soon have they forgotten their own plight and a desire to be accepted by those who did not accept our culture or custom. Now the christian Right is marching ever so upward with banner in Hand saying”ONLY CHRISTIANS Allowed. What pomposity. What arrogance! The Muslims they would walk the rocky road . They would fight for what is Right! Maybe not today or v even tomorrow. but they too will win.!


  33. Perilous Times and Perilous Men!

    “But know this, that in the LAST DAYS, perilous* times will come.” ( 2 Tim 3:1).

    Perilous: from the Gk word, ‘chalepos’ means, Harsh, savage, difficult, painful, fierce, grevous, hard to deal with. The word describes a society that is BARREN of virtue, but abounding with vices.

    Continuing with verse 2, and following,

    “For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, PROUD, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, HEADSTRONG, haughty, lovers of pleasure, rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness, but denying its power. And from such people turn away…always learning and NEVER able to come the knowledge of the TRUTH. Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the TRUTH: men of corrupt minds, disapproved, concerning the faith; but they will progress no further for their FOLLY will be manifest to ALL, as theirs also was…Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will SUFFER persecution. But evil men and imposters will grow WORSE and WORSE, deceiving and being deceived. But you must continue in the things you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through FAITH which is IN* Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, throughly equipped for every good work. (vv.2-17).

    Almighty God, is shaking the SECULAR foundations, of all institutions throughout the world, including religious ones as well, whatever WAS/IS not built upon His righteous standards, will start to CRUMBLE, as we are seeing and witnessing every day, all over the world, governments, financial, banks, businesses, you name it, and yes, even some Churches, will ALL come crashing down, one way or the other.

    Preach the Word!

    “Preach the Word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come, when they will NOT endure sound doctrine, but according to their own DESIRES, because they have ITCHING ears, they will heap up to themselves treachers; and will TURN their ears AWAY from the Truth ( as seen on BU and elsewhere!) and be turned aside to FABLES.” ( 2 Tim 4: 2-4 Emphasis added).

    Mankind knows that something is terribly wrong with HIMSELF, all over the world. The Gospel of Christ, is being proclaimed throughtout the world, in an unprecendented manner, through satellite and other means, MILLIONS are coming to KNOW HIM* Jesus Christ, as Saviour and Lord, in China, Russia, Africa, South America, even in the Middle East, thousands of Muslims are being LIBERATED from the bondage of Islam, to liberty and freedom in Christ, amazing testimonies are coming out of these cultures, to the reality of KNOWING Christ as Personal Saviour and Lord.

    Likewise, such amazing testimonies are coming out of India and Pakistan, this IS* the WITNESS* that Jesus spoke about, that the Gospel will be preached to the ends of the earth, THEN, the End will come!

    Mankind, in his financial crisis, be it NY, B’dos, or anywhere else, is STILL looking for solutions and answers in the WRONG places, it will NOT work, why not?

    “Unless the LORD builds the house ( I.e, family, business, nation) They labour in VAIN who build it. Unless the LORD guards the city ( House, etc) The watchman stays awake in vain.” ( Psa. 127:1 Emphasis added).

    Now, go and scoff, mock, laugh and ridicule some more; you’ll just be fulfilling exactly what the LORD said would be the case!


  34. Hoiw can YOU “ZOE” be quoting scripture and lifitng up high holy hands and have no Love in your heart for Muslims.Look at the above using bible quotations to justify your vindictive soul.


  35. Halsall, Your are most certainly fulfilling your INDOCTRINATED, AGNOSTICATED, Darwinian, purpose-filled mind-set!

    Now, go and scoff, mock, laugh and ridicule some more; you’ll just be fulfilling exactly what the LORD said would be the case!


  36. @ CH:
    Do you really expect to get a reasonably focused response to any simple and clear question or query posed to ZOE?
    I have been trying to ask Zoe repetitiously a few simple and straight forward questions for the longest time but to no avail.

    You will have to wait until you meet Zoe at the pearly or flaming gates before you get a reasonable reply.


  37. @millertheanunnaki: “Do you really expect to get a reasonably focused response to any simple and clear question or query posed to ZOE?

    Of course not.

    I do not expect any direct response.

    But it is amusing watching the radiance resulting from the question.

    It is a bit like dropping a ball of anti-matter into a sun.

    Just drop it it, and watch it blow…..


  38. @ CH:
    Got ya loud and clear! Beam me up Scotty, from the planet called Zoe! The atmosphere is thick, dull and gloomy down here!


  39. @ CH:
    “Got ya loud and clear! Beam me up Scotty, from the planet called Zoe! The atmosphere is thick, dull and gloomy down here!”

    @nnaki & Sall, Man, you all ain’t see nothing yet, the atmosphere where ya’ll is heading, will make “…thick, dull and gloomy down here” look like paradise, just wait and see, it won’t be too long off, and ya no what, no Beam down request is necessary, its all already programed into your ‘rejection’ code, instant DOWNLOAD, wham….straight into it…where their ‘worm’ of conscience never dies!!!


  40. @Zoe

    I expected that you would bring a little more to the table in response to my query on whether you thought Obama was a closet Muslim and you copied and posted from this blog (see attached) . Can’t say I’m surprised that the wing nuts of the right occupy a great deal of space on this blog …still complaining that Obama’s Birth Certificate is fake and that he is a Marxist etc. Are these folks the company you keep?

    I still want to know if CAIR became embedded pre or post Rahm Emanuel.

    http://gulagbound.com/18956/muslim-brotherhood-in-our-white-house-%E2%80%93-vetting-obama/


  41. Muslim Brotherhood . Jihad they are all political organisation with a political agenda . They are mostly involved in the politics of their country . In America as of recent They are the OWS and the TeaParty all too who have their own political agenda. Although some of these organisations maybe radical .They all don’t speak for the will of the all the people. .Unfortunately in the Western World people tend to attributed all the actions of those political groups to the Muslim religion


  42. @Techie et al
    The problem is not Muslims but Jihadists/ Islamists who are mentally stuck in the 13th C, when Islam made in roads into Southern Spain and Eastern Europe. Regardless of how the West treated Muslims historically the bottom line is the radicals teach hate and the destruction of the Western World in their madrassas. Are you prepared to lay down and die for any sins committed by the West, as pennence? I advocate peace and discussion BUT if you are intent on destroying the West then such folks will have a massive problem from my perspective.
    .
    . Please note that the Wahabist’s Muslims murdered other Muslims for their variant beliefs and today there is major potential for Iran(95%+ Shia) to merge with Iraq(62% Shia) in order to have the critical mass to deal with the Sunni/ Wahabist’s. Why do you think that Wikileaks found Saudi offering free passage and fuel to the Israeli’s Airforce when they decide to bomb Iran?????

    It is hard to believe that BO would associate too closely with Jihadists because he has an obvious case history for reference, JFK!


  43. @ Moneybrain…..

    Never have anyone disputed this as far as I have read on BU.

    What I and most here agree on is that you just cant paint every Muslim or the reliegion with a broad brush.
    If that is the case then the so called Christians have to be grouped in the same way and be like those who enslaved others, killed others etc under the banner of Christianity.
    The last mass murderer was a self confessed ‘right wing evangelical Christian’….do you think most Christians would like to be lumped in the same category as him?

    As far as I know most reliegions have killed in the name of their god, none is any better…NONE!


  44. @ Money Brain

    Here is a Whole Muslim society who is being branded because of the actions of others 1.e the radical fringe .Now is that fair. Obama so far has tried to reach out to the moderates leadership in the Muslim world with hope of reaching a meaningful dialogue and the right Wing propaganda machine has undermined his intentions and openly questions his political agenda towards America in favour of the Muslim world. Now tell me how are we going to reach any agreeable consenus when we have the Right Wing and the Christian coalition fighting against the system that have given them rights and now they are seizing every opportunity to deny others,


  45. dawn.com
    Mumbling prayers under their breaths, sitting in corners crossed-legged reciting, or simply observing others, there are people from all walks of life visiting the mazar.

    The Shrine by the Sea | Multimedia | DAWN.COM
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    Dawn.com brings you captivating photography and film with image galleries, audio-visual slideshows, and videos from Pakistan as well as from the International front
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    Hasiib Ali Junior visiting shrines of saints is fitnah, bidah and shirk
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    Zaigham Murtaza Baquari ‎@hasib
    n what about cleaning the shoes of jews? Allowing them to ruin them the holy land of arabs, paying the terrorists to shed the blood of innocents? Going to bar n exploiting your own people, brothers, cheating etc…
    Doing everything that is forbidden and talking about bid’at and shirk… Poor hypocracy
    7 hours ago · Like · 4 people

    Zaigham Murtaza Baquari ‎@hasib
    and no one is forcing you to go there… You keep on visiting the home of satan and enjoy ur satanic principles dictated by the house of saud and his paid workers n let peace loving people live life their own way…
    7 hours ago · Like · 4 people

    Yaar Dost and Allah is cognizant of what is in the hearts.Quran 64:4
    7 hours ago · Like

    Najam Farooq what is bidah? would anyone explain it to me??
    7 hours ago · Like

    Umer Dilshad ‎@Zaigham …. Perfect bro ….
    7 hours ago · Like

    Hasiib Ali Junior o fellow paki muslims, islam is under attack. i once again exhort all muslims to marry 4 women and produce 16 children. the kufar must be overpowered. allahoakbar, v wil conquer
    7 hours ago · Like · 1 person

    Bilal Ahmad ‎@hasib,, great man,, i am with u,,, hhahahaha lol,,,,
    7 hours ago · Like

    Aamer Iqbal ‎@Hasib, great man, I’m with u as well…Muslim men need to marry four INDIAN women to save them from being burned alive by their Hindian in laws (40,000 every year) and then Pakistani can increase their GDP by start manufacturing siva lingums to sell to Hindian gan dus, like Hasib junior to keep them happy.
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    Muhammad Muzaffar Rana ‎@ Hasib ur role is like a Satan, who always tries to start fight betwn muslim, r u muslim???
    3 hours ago · Like

    Muhammad Muzaffar Rana Be carefull brothers,divide nd rule remotely??? who aimed???
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  46. Error, that should read :
    Islam and Christianity are cut from the same cloth.
    These religions are the opposite sides of the same coin.
    Features of both religions :
    1] Anti-female.
    2] Male-dominant.
    3] Anti-Black.
    4] Voilent /warlike.
    5] Promotes worship of fictional characters, Jesus for Christianity and Mohammed for Islam.
    6]Fear based.


  47. @ taseti;
    “Islam and Christianity are cut from the same cloth.”

    And what is this cloth, may I ask? The Ram (Aries) of Ra wants to know.


  48. HERE’S A LESSON FOR ALL POLITICAL “tyrants” AND EGO MANIACAL LEADERS WHO CHOOSE TO RULE BY OPPRESSION* OBLIVIOUS THAT THEY WILL HAVE THEIR WATERLOO…

    Gaddafi “DEAD”: Libyan tyrant’s bloodied corpse paraded on live TV – watch the shocking video…

    READ MORE:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/10/20/gaddafi-dead-libyan-tyrant-s-bloodied-corpse-paraded-on-live-tv-watch-the-shocking-video-115875-23502777/#ixzz1bLRo0kHL


  49. Another one ‘bites’ the dusk, and bullet, INSTANT ‘DOWNLOAD’ into HELL, no Beam-up, options here, everlasting torment, in conscious misery, such is the price for rejecting God’s Mercy, Grace, and Love, offered to ALL men, through Jesus Christ, its EITHER/OR, not Both/And!


  50. It is clear that the Christians in here are rejoicing with news of the brutal death of Gadaffi much like the Libyan Muslims. Gadaffi is now dead, will they be any different from him?


  51. @ Zoe:
    So you are rejoicing at the brutal murder of the Dictator GADDAFI! How Christian of you!! Would you also like to see the “Christian” Dictator Robert Mugabe taken out in a similar manner?
    By the way, if we are to accept that your god is the one and only god which created the entire universe in 6 days, then you will have to accept that the same god could have created other beings on other planets orbiting billions of stars and that human beings might just NOT be his favourite of his creation. You might just have to share your heaven with other god-made aliens.


  52. @millertheanunnaki

    Don’t beat up on poor little Zoe. He knows not of which he speaks.

    He is told these things, and he is told they are the truth. But in fact he has no idea.

    We should feel sorry for Zoe.

    I certainly do.


  53. @Zoe who wrote “everlasting torment, in conscious misery, such is the price for rejecting God’s Mercy, Grace, and Love, offered to ALL men, through Jesus Christ.”

    Zoe wrote “everlasting torment, in conscious misery,”

    I wonder which christian church I should have attended to protect myself a sinner from this threat.


  54. @ CH:
    It’s called tough love, intellectually speaking of course! Zoe is beginning to soften up and starting to see the LIGHT!


  55. The Imps of Darkness, are speaking from their Abyss of IGNORANCE, if the light that be IN them, is DARKESS* O’ how great IS* THAT* DARKESS*!!!


  56. @ CH:
    Be careful how you roll and laugh! Zoe might think you are demon possessed and called the religious police to section you under the Atheist Act and to commit you to the fiery flames of Hades.


  57. “Do not speak in the hearing of a FOOL. For he will DESPISE the wisdom of your words.” ( Prov. 23: 9)

    “Though you grind a FOOL in a mortar with a pestle along with crushed grain. Yet his FOOLISHNESS will NOT* depart from him.” ( Prov. 27:22).

    “…we are DOOMED” Yes you are Halsall et al BU Bildge Pumping Scoffers!

    By your own FOLLY and choice!


  58. @Zoe et al…

    A good friend taught me: “Be responsible for the listening into which you are speaking.

    Unfortunately, they didn’t teach me what to do when the listener refuses to listen to anyone but themselves.

    I suspect because this is an intractable problem.


  59. @David

    What manner men are driven to drag the body of a dead man through the street?
    ****************************
    Tut…. Tut…. Spare me the faux outrage and crocodile tears, thousands of people die every day, this death was more public than the others. Perhaps you should ask the UN to charge those Libyans with causing an indignity to a dead body.

    If you have sympathy to spare you should save a little sympathy for the deceased in this story

    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1073106–dimanno-alleged-murder-plot-targeted-treacherous-daughters-court-told


  60. in as much as i wouldn’t shed any tears crocodile or other wise for gadaffi .some how the recurrence of the international coalition involvement in the death of political leaders should make one feel a sense of discomfort .If this precedent continues World wide outcry would be inevitable.There must be a better way !


  61. The political assassination of gaddafi should be abhorrent to any one of the christian faith and should be condemned by them as “killing ” of any kind is contrary to biblical teachings . Thus saith The Lord Your God. “Thou Shalt Not Kill”


  62. “As in water face reflects face, So a man’s heart reveals the man.”

    “Hell and Destruction are never full, So the eyes of man are never satisfied.” (Prov. 27: 19,20).

    “Open rebuke is better, Than love carefully concealed.” (v.5)

    “The great God who FORMED everything, Gives the fool his hire and the transgressor his wages. As a dog returns to his own vomit, So a fool repeats his folly. Do you see a man wise in his oen eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.” (Prov. 26: 10-12)


  63. @ DAVID

    You ask – “WHAT MANNER OF MAN?”…

    WELL….

    WHAT MANNER OF “system” ALLOWS [12] MILLION CHILDREN TO GO TO SLEEP EACH NITE WITH PANGS OF HUNGER?

    WHAT MANNER OF WORLD DO WE LIVE THAT CALLS “GOOD” evil AND “EVIL” good?

    WHAT MANNER OF “system” SELLS GUNS & WEAPONS OF WAR WHEN WE OUGHT TO BE MAKING AVAILABLE “seeds” SO THAT THE POOR CAN FEED THEMSELVES?

    WHAT MANNER OF “system” WOULD ALLOW LESS THAN 0.5% OF THE WORLD’ RICHEST TO CONTROL 85% OF THE WORLD’S WEALTH?

    Brother man – “there are more ??? than answers”…

    What is abundantly clear – “IF YOU LIVE BY THE SWORD: YOU DIE BY SWORD”… it is called poetic justice for all those who falsely believe that they are some kinda’ “god” dictating the course and lives of other men by using the tools of tyranny and oppression – their day will come even if takes [40] years or a lifetime…

    GADDAFFI got his just desserts… For a life that trampled upon the RITES*, FREEDOMS & PRIVILEGES of his own people by murder and acts of internal, inconspicuous genocide – he wielded a slavish “IRON” rod over innocent FOLKS*… Now he has met his WATERLOO*…. It is a LAW* of the UNIVERSE* that cannot breached, abrogated or DENIED*…

    AS A MAN LIVES, HE DIES!!!


  64. “The Christians leading the charge during the Crusades can be classified as dogs or transgressors?”

    How many times David, do I have to repeat, that it WAS the wicked, EVIL, Popes, RC priests, that conducted the Crusades, and NOT Christians, Roman Catholicism, is a refined system of Christianized HEATHENISM, and differs chiefly from its prototype, (Babylonianism) in being more treacherous, more cruel, more intolerant.

    Stop confusing those masquerading under the banner of Christianity, with the ‘True’ Church of Jesus Christ.


  65. ………” it WAS the wicked, EVIL, Popes, RC priests, that conducted the Crusades, and NOT Christians…..”

    Then why is it so hard to also say, it is the extremists, Jihadists etc and not ALL MUSLIMS?

    What hypocrisy!

    @ TB….

    ….AS A MAN LIVES, HE DIES!!!

    Interesting analogy…..

    Wasn’t your Jesus crucified?


  66. @Zoe

    That’s, was obviously under the misguided view that the RC acted as the incubator for the religions which follow the teachings of Christ.


  67. In my youth we or some of us in the caribbean would have heard of and seen some support for the liberation movement by Col. Gaddafi. He trained some caribbean people out of Dominica, St. Lucia and Grenada. This was the time in the caribbean when most young people thought that a coup, like the Col. , was not a bad thing. He also had significant impact in Africa, and he shall be remembered well in those places. That brings us to the conundrum that is called Col. Gaddafi. To some he is a hero. To many especially in the western world their media has been able to portray him as a monster.

    I can not join with any crowd to refer to any human that Christ has died for as a monster. The reason for that position is that Col. Gaddafi as a sinner who could have been saved by Christ is just as much of a sinner as all of us who bog here. His sins may be more open, but that does not detract from the fact that we and or sins, however, hidden still exist. Furthermore, let us disabuse ourselves of the notion that there is little sin and big sin, all is SIN.


  68. @ DAVID

    In the book by Paula Bartley & Hilary Bourdillon, entitled ‘Medieval Islam’ (1993) argued that “For about 500 years, the Christians, led by the Pope in Rome, had tried to bring themselves and the “ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS” together. So when Alexius [the leader of the Orthodox Christians in Constantinople] asked for help [to fight against the Muslims] in 1081, Pope Urban II saw his chance. In 1093, at Clermont, he called all men to promise to save the HOLY LAND* before it was too late.”

    In “ANSWERING ISLAM”* it is cited that: the [4] years of the dreadful events of the 1st Crusade (1095-1099) was hellish where each Crusader wore the symbol of the Cross, but we need to recognize the great mistake which made the symbol of “LOVE” for all men into a sign of division, hate and extermination…

    Jews, Eastern Christians and Muslims were all affected by the Crusades. Jews were slaughtered in several places. Eastern Christians (Greek Orthodox and others) were mistreated and humiliated by the Crusader armies, increasing the divisions which already existed. Muslims were killed in great numbers, encouraging centuries of deep hostility. Wars have been a major part of human history, but religious wars in the name of Christ “DO NOT” reflect the spirit of the Gospel. Jesus said, “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Do good to those who hate you, and bless those who curse you.” (Luke 6:27-36)

    Author, A.C. Morales, in the book: “The Story of Man” (1991) argues that “Many Christians joined the Crusades because they thought that was what God wanted. Others joined for selfish reasons. Many nobles were no longer rich, if they joined the Crusades, they did not have to pay taxes or their debts while they were away. They hoped to get money, power and land in the Middle East. Some crusaders were thieves and murderers.”

    So the answer to your charge is not a simple elucidation or speculative analysis of a 1000 year old historical tranche in human religious evolutionary time but a proper understanding must bear in mind that there are many complex variables which are still difficult to decipher given the morphology and praxis of “MILITANT ISLAM” and the changing paradigms from APOSTOLIC* Christianity into classical ROMAN CATHOLICISM and its strands of POLITICAL & RELIGIOUS epistemology…


  69. @ DAVID

    Do men rejoice at the “DEATH” of a good man?

    ON THE CONTRARY – “THEY MOURN”!!!

    In like manner, when the wicked lie silent in the dust – thoughts of them are quickly forgotten and only their “EVIL” is remembered in perpetuity…

    God does not wish that any should “PERISH” but that all should come to “ETERNAL” life – but the wages of “SIN” is death and though God does not “GLORY” in the death of the “WICKED” – men rejoice when the evil hand of “OPPRESSION” is lifted…

    IT IS A HUMAN* FACT OF LIFE….

    OUR FOREPARENTS TOO REJOICED OVER THE BREAKING OF THE SHACKLES OF SLAVERY WHICH HELD THEM CAPTIVES WHILE OTHERS WERE LOST AS TO WHAT TO DO NEXT?

    So, human emotions has the tendency to run the full gamut…

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