The Biggest Lies Ever Told By POLITICIANS And CHRISTIANS (1)

Submitted by Pachamama

In circumstances where some have seen the limits to all civilizations on earth and are seeking other places to inhabit, it may be helpful to reflect on the fundamental contributing factors that have led us to this point and to make rough assessments about some of the possible causative reasons we could be at this point. In this process we must, for a brief moment at least, make broad judgments about what is true and what is false within the tapestry of lies in which we live.

How many truths are there and what ends do they serve? What are the general behaviors of truths? Of course, central to this discussion must be the proposition that there is some kind of creative master planner directing all things or whether a firm reliance of science provides a better range of truths. As we polarize these issues we will, of course, ignore the postulations that some type of middle ground exists?

The leading Republican contenders for its party’s nomination proffer a Christian-Zionist fundamentalism that is not dissimilar to that espoused by the Taliban or the other Salafist elements of Islam. And yet ultra-conservative Christian dispensationalists are given the ‘respectability’ of being on corporate media, the generalized pretence that what they are saying is rooted in fact and a presumption that they are directed by some supernatural being whose existence is at best dubious and is not appreciated by the majority of their audience. It goes further than that. Globally, about one billion people call themselves Christians. Another one and a half billion people call themselves Muslims and the list of ‘faiths’ goes on and on.

But, why should we be persuaded by what these people are saying? Are the basic tenants of religion based on truths? Is there a functional difference between myth and lie?  Are these just old lies told as part of some ancient and elaborate marketing scheme geared to control the minds of the masses of the peoples of the world and secure resources for the few? Why is it that the same people who argued for millennia that the earth was flat or that the earth was at the center of ‘the’ universe and after being proven wrong still have the temerity to insist on being all-knowing or representing some kind of all-knowing?

Why should Christians be forgiven for the persecution of Galileo and others who insisted on finding truths? How is it that we could find ourselves on a modern day crusade of Middle Eastern and North African countries against Muslims based on lies? These lies were promoted and sanctioned by George W Bush and the leading evangelical Christian pastors like Falwell, Roberts, Haggie, T.D Jakes, Franklyn Graham (the younger) and others. These criminals who live on the bones of the weak and the vulnerable also had they associates in Barbados who saw them as leading lights of their ‘faith’. They included, but were not limited to, Holmes Williams, Basil Yards, Cuke and others. Why should the peoples of the world continue to trust the purveyors of the untruths? Untruths emanating from books written with they own hand under the presumption of ‘divine’ inspiration when their fundamental precepts could be better explained and their alleged inspiration is no more profound than when one of their followers is called to the bathroom? What is sacred, sublime or beautiful about any of this?

We live in an age where science can properly explain a range of existential phenomena. It is also true that there are many, many questions still left to be explained. However, we now know and can scientifically explain the age of the universe and how it came into existence, the age of earth, the evolutionary path of life forms and much, much more. Of course the religious then make the rejoinder that their supernatural father controls matter, gravity, anti-gravity and space. Regardless of how truths are uncovered the religious constantly change the argument. In other circumstances and despite the preponderance of evidence to the contrary, Evangelical Christians continue with some of the old arguments. They insist that the earth is 6000 years old, that humans have been here for only 6000 years, they perniciously act in ways that, by their thinking, would usher in a series of events that could lead to the end of days. This backwardness is central to the thinking of Bachmann, Perry, Palin, Romney – the Mormon and others.

Of these Michele Bachmann is the true believer. She is a former student of an ultra right Christian University and represents a risk to all life forms. Palin, Perry and the others, like Bush, are not ‘true believers’ but are merely seeking to consolidate the Republican Christian right wing in hopes of winning a promotion in the American political kingdom – based on old and dangerous religious lies. The Manchurian candidate of the Democrats, Obama, can be counted upon to merely check the proverbial box to satisfy a false political requirement of religiosity. His real obeisance is lavishly paid to his earthly masters in the American corporatocracy and other global capitalists. This is the man who invoked the words of a famous American writer who determined that ‘we are the ones that we are waiting for’ and encouraged and promoted a messianic aura around him in the campaign for the presidency. So when most Bajans walk about saying how evangelical or how Christian they are, they should first find out what they are saying. Are we being controlled by a new wave of dangerous evangelical ignorance as a tool of the political elites?

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    •   Talking about politicians and liars…

      Did Tenet Hide Key 9/11 Info?By Ray McGovern
      August 17, 2011 Information Clearing House”  With few exceptions, like some salacious rumor about the Kennedy family, the mainstream U.S. news media has shown little interest in stories that throw light on history — even recent, very relevant history. So it comes as no surprise that, when a former White House counter-terrorism czar accuses an ex-CIA director of sitting on information that could have prevented a 9/11 attack, the story gets neither ink nor air.
      Bulletin for those of you who get your information only from the New York Times, the Washington Post and other outlets of the Fawning Corporate Media (FCM): Former White House director for counterterrorism Richard Clarke has accused former CIA Director George Tenet of denying him and others access to intelligence that could have thwarted the attack on the Pentagon on 9/11.
      Deliberately withholding critical intelligence from those who need it, and can act on it, is — at the least — gross dereliction of duty. The more so if keeping the White House promptly and fully informed is at the top of your job jar, as it was for Director of Central Intelligence Tenet. And yet that is precisely the charge Clarke has leveled at the former DCI.
      In an interview aired on Aug. 11 on a local PBS affiliate in Colorado, Clarke charges that Tenet and two other senior CIA officials, Cofer Black and Richard Blee, deliberately withheld information about two of the hijackers of American Airlines Flight 77 — al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar. The two had entered the United States more than a year before the 9/11 attacks.
      Source: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28866.htm


  1. @Pachamama, You are obviously just another deluded, deceived follower of ‘evolutionary materalism’ whose philosophical ‘agenda’ IS* rampant atheism, couched, veneerred, and convoluted in a maze* of pseudo-scientific jargon, which then continues to deceive many, who have not taken the time, to investigate the facts* and evidence* of Creation, as outlined in God’s self-authenticating Word, the Bible, the preponderance of which is* overwhelmingly and emphatically supported thousands of years AFTER* the FACT* by literally MILLIONS of fossil finds, all of which, each and every time they are discovered, no matter where on earth, or in the sea, each and every time, regardless of the species, they ALL* APPEAR* abruptly, that IS* fully and completely FORMED* as they were Created in the first place by Almighty God, of historic divine revelation.

    The fact of the matter is, no matter how many of the false science ‘theories’ they come up with, the plain simple FACTS* of millions of fossils, repeadtedly speak, in their eloquent SILENCE* loudly, that WE* were ALL Created by Almighty God, that why, we ALL appear FULLY* FORMED* no ‘transitional’ fossils will ever be found, as we did NOT* evolve, we we Created!

    Further, your incoherent ramblings, re other matters, on Christians, i could delightfully, with sound historic analysis, put to shame!


  2. And how about WTC Building 7, a 47 story office tower (not hit by a plane) which also collapsed in dramatic fashion on 9/11/2001. Some TV channels did carry live video of its collapse on the evening of 9/11, but unlike the 2 WTC towers’ destruction, the Bldg 7 collapse received practically no follow up airplay or publicity in mainstream media in the days, weeks and months following 9/11. Since 9/11/2001 a brand new building of similar size has been erected and quietly reopened in its place with little publicity or fanfare.

    1500+ Architects and engineers and some of the 9/11 victims’ family members still have unanswered questions and believe the official investigation into this event has been inadequate and superficial at best.


  3. Dear Pachamama you wrote “In circumstances where some have seen the limits to all civilizations on earth and are seeking other places to inhabit, it may be helpful to reflect on the fundamental contributing factors that have led us to this point and to make rough assessments about some of the possible causative reasons we could be at this point.”

    If you had written this in English I would have responded.

    Dear Zoe you wrote ” You are obviously just another deluded, deceived follower of ‘evolutionary materalism’ whose philosophical ‘agenda’ IS* rampant atheism, couched, veneerred, and convoluted in a maze* of pseudo-scientific jargon, which then continues to deceive many, who have not taken the time, to investigate the facts* and evidence* of Creation, as outlined in God’s self-authenticating Word, the Bible, the preponderance of which is* overwhelmingly and emphatically supported thousands of years AFTER* the FACT* by literally MILLIONS of fossil finds, all of which, each and every time they are discovered, no matter where on earth, or in the sea, each and every time, regardless of the species, they ALL* APPEAR* abruptly, that IS* fully and completely FORMED* as they were Created in the first place by Almighty God, of historic divine revelation.”

    If you had written this in English I would have responded.


  4. Questions for Richard Clarke on COG, the UAE, and BCCI
    Posted on August 20, 2011 by ultruth

    The author is indebted to the good people at History Commons for their “Complete 9/11 Timeline.” If a reference is not evident below, it can probably be found there.

    A recent interview with former “Counterterrorism Czar,” Richard Clarke, is making a splash in the alternative media.[1] In this interview, Clarke speculates about CIA malfeasance related to the pre-9/11 monitoring of two alleged September 11 hijackers. This interview is somewhat interesting due to Clarke’s vague suggestion that the CIA had courted 9/11 suspects as sources, but it is far more interesting for what was not said with regard to Clarke’s personal history and associations.

    The seeming point of these new statements from Clarke is that the CIA might have withheld information from him, the FBI, and the Department of Defense (DOD) in the twenty months leading up to the 9/11 attacks. Clarke is not suggesting that the CIA did this maliciously, but only that his good friend, George Tenet, and two others made a mistake in their approach. Clarke says of these CIA leaders — “They understood that al Qaeda was a big threat, they were motivated, and they were really trying hard.” The mild twist that Clarke now puts on the story is that the CIA’s diligent effort to secure much needed sources within the al Qaeda organization was pursued without any suspicion that these sources might turn out to be “double agents.”

    Clarke claims that if the CIA had simply told him, the FBI and the DOD, “even as late as September 4th, [2001]” they would have “conducted a massive sweep, we would have conducted it publicly, we would have found those assholes. There’s no doubt in my mind. Even with only a week left.”

    There are many obvious problems with these new claims from Clarke. For one thing, the evidence we have indicates that FBI headquarters did everything it could to protect the alleged 9/11 hijackers in the months leading up to 9/11. Another spectacularly obvious problem is that those “assholes” lived with an FBI asset for at least four months and there are reasons to believe the FBI knew that. More importantly, Richard Clarke personally thwarted two of the attempts the CIA made to capture Osama bin Laden (OBL) in the two years before 9/11. It seems disingenuous at best that Clarke would say he didn’t have enough information to capture two of OBL’s underlings in 2000 when he was responsible for preventing the capture of OBL just the year before.

    In an attempt to make sense of these matters, we should take a closer look at Richard Clarke. His own history might shed some light on why he is trying to confuse us today.

    snip

    It is more difficult to understand why Clarke was personally behind the failure of two CIA attempts to kill or capture Bin Laden in 1999. The first of these occurred just a few days after Clarke’s visit to the UAE. The CIA obtained information that OBL was hunting with UAE royals in Afghanistan at the time, and President Clinton was asked for permission to attack the camp. Clarke voted down that plan, and others within the US government speculated that his ties to the UAE were behind his decision.[14]

    The next month, when the CIA had tracked Bin Laden’s whereabouts again and was prepared to take him out during another of the Afghanistan hunting trips, Richard Clarke took it upon himself to alert his UAE friends about the CIA monitoring their meetings with Bin Laden. Of course, the UAE royals tipped off Bin Laden and the US lost another opportunity to kill or capture its number one enemy.[15] Considering that CIA plans are top secret national security priorities, and that OBL was wanted for the bombings in East Africa, Clarke’s action should have been seen as treason.

    Somehow, Clarke’s two efforts to keep OBL from being captured or killed in 1999 slipped his mind when he testified to the 9/11 Commission. Apparently, these events were also not important enough for Clarke to mention when recently discussing the two “asshole” hijackers whose presence in the US he now says the CIA kept from him and the FBI.

    http://digwithin.net/2011/08/20/clarke/


  5. @ Pachamama

    Some salient points in your piece…

    Good use of language as well in part but there is a “mishmash” in your interpretive analysis of Scripture and a hodgepodge of almost satirical rantings about the historical metamorphosis which got us to this place…

    You are entitled to your agnosticated position on areas of BIBLICAL* doctrine (sadly SIMPLISTIC* yet nothing new there) but be CAREFUL* how you tar and feather everyone with the same smeared and tarnished brush…

    Right-wing American politics as most understand is fundamentally structured on a bevy of idiosyncratic deceptions – that is why the Constitutional separation of Church & State has become such a divisive narrative with much deeper socio-political ramifications for the future…

    Again, be careful to separate the “TREES” from the “FOREST” because though they may appear the same – a multiple of different species exist within your view…


  6. @Zoe:
    “The fact of the matter is, no matter how many of the false science ‘theories’ they come up with, the plain simple FACTS* of millions of fossils, repeadtedly speak, in their eloquent SILENCE* loudly, that WE* were ALL Created by Almighty God, that why, we ALL appear FULLY* FORMED* no ‘transitional’ fossils will ever be found, as we did NOT* evolve, we we Created!”

    Please clarify your position for the unlearned amongst us.
    Are you proposing that man walked with the dinosaurs in the days after creation?

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