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The CLICO Saga seems to be regaining some steam. It probably has something to do with those rapidly maturing flexible annuities (time deposits) reported to be about 300 million dollars. The Nation newspaper along with the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) have been accessing all avenues opened to them to sensitize Barbados about the horror which is about to descend on CLICO policy and annuity holders. There is the wider implication for the Barbados financial landscape and economy.

BU have to confess we are amazed at the haste which Opposition Mia Mottley and the BLP were persuaded to bring a no-confidence motion to parliament arising from the unfortunate circumstance of CLICO.  When the no-confidence motion failed the BLP promptly took its position on the road. It is only a naive group of people who would support a no-confidence motion supported by public meetings and expect that it would not defeat the government’s preferred strategy to maintain confidence as the circumstance would allow while it look for buyers for the beleaguered company. The protection of CLICO was and still is important to the national interest, in this regard the government and the opposition should have closed ranks on this matter.

Those companies in the region which have been placed under judicial watch what have they accomplished so far regarding the liquidation of assets to the satisfaction of policyholders?

Recent media reports have confirmed the imminent sale of the general and mortgage divisions of CLICO Barbados. The continued negative publicity which has been fuelled by the BLP has effectively destroyed any possibility of the life division being sold for fair value. The hole which will be created by the commitment to honour the maturing flexible annuities will obviously create pressure for any buyer. Who wants the grief of acquiring a portfolio with a customer base whose priority would be to appease a pent-up anxiety?

In hindsight it would have been a more sensible strategy for Prime Minister Thompson to have managed the CLICO matter through a functionary. In Trinidad the Finance Minister did all the front work with little comment from Prime Minister Patrick Manning. There is no doubt that the CLICO matter has been politicized to the detriment of CLICO’s customers. The relationship between Leroy Parris and David Thompson is embedded in Barbados folklore.

The USA at the height of the financial crisis deemed that there were companies too big to fail. In our opinion CLICO fits the definition of  a company too large to fail in a Barbados and OECS context. The fact that it is a company which epitomizes the entrepreneurial spirit of a Black man seems to matter not. Cyril Duprey must be skinning cuffies in his grave.

What has been disappointing in the CLICO discussion so far has been the willingness of those who should know better to follow what other islands have done in relation to CLICO. Barbados has built a sound financial system which has been the envy of many. The obvious failing of the Supervisor of Insurance to perform as required in the matter of CLICO is instructive. BU hope that by now the glaring deficiency which has existed in the Supervisor of Insurance Office has been long corrected. Bear in mind the problem of CLICO’s statutory fund should have been a concern of the former government. Important to note, CLICO Barbados was allowed to remit millions of dollars of dollars to its Head Office in Trinidad without any hindrance from the Barbados authorities under the former administration. Finally the  flexible annuity product which has now proved to be problematic was approved under the former administration.

All of the above demonstrates that CLICO’s problem can be attributed to the regulators and by extension the former government’s inaction. The financial crisis would have exposed CLICO just as it did many other companies around the world. The BLP has no moral or other authority to pontificate on the woes of CLICO. All they have succeeded in doing is to exacerbate the crisis of confidence which has probably help to sustain the run on CLICO. It is sad to witness the demise of a leading Black Pan-Caribbean company which the Barbados opposition has rushed to have dismantled, all in the interest of promoting political agendas.

Unfortunately we don’t see any solution in sight to bail the life division of the company in the present circumstances, the government will have to step in when all efforts have been exhausted.


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185 responses to “The CLICO Political Football”


  1. Some of the lands involved in government’s $5 per square foot programme are not owned by CLICO? Todds Estate for example?

  2. Alex Fergusson Avatar

    @ David wrote: “Barbadians the opposition included need to appreciate the stakes and stop making the Clico matter a political football.”

    +++++++++++++

    Sir, the only issue here is that sitting with the Governor of the Central Bank and the Supervisor of Insurance, Prime Minister David Thompson (the principle legal advisor to Clico and Leroy Parris up to January 15th 2008) told Barbadians that: “We are fully satisfied that Clico is “sound,” “prudently managed” and “well regulated.”

    That turned out to be a trademard Thompson and DLP – nasty stinking lie!!!

    This is the same Prime Minister Thompson who refused to lay in Parliament – the MOU relating to the Oversight Committee in Parliament. Why?” He still protecting his friend?

    This is the same man whose law firm has provided and continues to provide legal advise to Clico. The same man who has failed in his duty and breached the public trust – by misleading the public and more particularly the policy-holders, the depositors and their families – when he made the statement on January 31st, 2009 to the effect that the depositors and pension holders were “safe “ and that CLICO was “sound, prudently managed and well regulated.”

    David Thompson and the DLP are so wrapped up in Clico’s and Parris’ arms that the Prime Minister of Barbados (the same man whose law firm has and continues to provide legal advice for Parris and Clico) failed to recuse himself from having direct decision making over CLICO and appoint someone else to deal with this matter so that there would be no suspicion given his close relationship to CLICO Barbados and his failure to disclose his assets to date.

    See what $15 million in campaign funding could make you do!!!. See my Bernard Madoff and Allan Sanford must be vexx that they get lockup and not ——. More later!


  3. @Alex Fergusson

    If we did not have a run on deposits reported to be 118 million do you believe the company would have developed the poor cash position it currently is battling? Well that’s a rhetorical question.

  4. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    David, some people do not want to deal with the issues.

    I sense that if this was sagicor we would have a more rational discussion.


  5. Alex Fergusson,

    Go get a life……you dumb BLP pimp.

    CLICO is in safe hands and the depositors money is safe.

    They will get it if needs be….when the time is right.

    PM Thompson as always……has everything under control.

    Unlike your BLP wanna be leader Mia Mottley who cannot tell Barbadians if she is leading…..and Owen Arthur is following her !

    A despicable set of BLP humbugs !

  6. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    I would love to get my hands on some CLICO Holdings Financial Statements. Can anyone help?


  7. @Alex

    You also bear in mind during the run because of the plummetting customer confidence contributed to by the opposition there would have been a drying up of deposits. The overall impact becomes obvious.

  8. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    love

    Get real!!! Does the Minister of Finance understand what is going on at clico life?


  9. The only sensible commentary here comes from Trained Economist. The rest is speculative financial foolishness especially by Sylvan Greenidge, Alex Fergusson and the positively stupid Donald Duck.

  10. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    Albert

    If I stupid you more stupid!!!!


  11. I don’t propose to trade insults with a person whose stock in trade is to peddle falsehoods for political purposes.

  12. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    Albert

    and you expect me to take insults from you?

  13. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    TE

    When you get the financials of Clico holdings please share them with us all. Have you checked the corporate registry? What about the financials of British american???

  14. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    Anyone remember the following extract from the 2008 DLP manifesto

    “The DLP’s capital market programme aims to foster the development of the domestic capital markets by increasing the range and scope of domestic financial instruments and promoting increased liquidity in the stock and bond markets.
    This will serve to increase savings and investment opportunities, improve the pricing of financial instruments, enhance foreign exchange reserves by providing attractive investment instruments to keep capital at home and attract capital from abroad and of course create jobs for Barbadians”

    Albert, what has become of this “capital market programme”?


  15. Donald Duck, Esq // March 31, 2010 at 4:11 PM

    love

    Get real!!! Does the Minister of Finance understand what is going on at clico life?

    ***********************************************
    Donal Duck,

    Make up your mind !

    At one moment you claim the PM is intimately involved in the operations of Clico……then in the next breath you brazenly INSINUATE that he does not have a clue about the operations at Clico !!

    I am not surprised at all…..because you follow the same BLP clowns who claim a DLP MP had a gun and pulled it on one of your guys…….and when your own BLP suppporters were summoned to Heroes Square (by the BLP ites ) to hear how this happened…guessed WHAT ???

    Dale Marshall sheepishly refused to tell them even when they BEGGED him to do so !!

    And you BLP hoodlums believe you would ever be taken seriously again in this country……….?

    Not for a very LOOOOONG TIME !!!

    THE PEOPLE NOT AS STUPID AS YOU THINK……

    If prior to 15th JAN 2008 you all claimed the DLP was weak……and we beat you 20 – 10…..( now moved to 23 – 7 ) can you imagine what the scoreline would be NEXT TIME after Barbadians have :

    * Voice on Constituency Councils ?

    * Free travel on Transport board buses for school children ?

    * Free Summer Camps ?

    * Receive keys to 350 newly built houses in 2 years time ?

    * Receive titles to over 500 housing units in 2 years time ?

    * Receive ownership to 500 lots @ $ 5.00 per sq. ft. in 2 years time ?

    All of this by what you claim to be a ” weak team ” operating under the worst global recession in 100 YEARS !!!

    I tell you already I have enough MUCK on you BLP jokers to last 100 years .

    Dodds Prisons and its $ 700 million price tag is just the tip of the ICEBERG !!

    You better go and warn…….MAMA MIA !!


  16. @David.

    Assume the opposition had said nothing since early 2009. Would the situation be different today?

    Insurance companies do not fail because of “runs” caused by political argument. They fail FIRSTLY because mgmt under reserve risk for whatever reason – ignorance, desire to massage the accounts for bonus purposes – whatever. They fail because agents under price risk maybe due to lax internal controls or maybe due to mgmt thirst for rapid expansion. They fail through fraud, mis-reporting, optimistic valuations and incompetence. And they fail due to excessive risk taking on the investment side.

    Take this case. The parent fails. There are many strange intercompany transactions. Some large clients had already left. The accounts are highly disturbing for the aggression they reveal. There is a general economic crisis. The IMF points to a big backside hole in the numbers. And none of those things were non-public information.

    Yet it is fault of opposition politicians when clients join up the dots and act to protect themselves?

    There is an assumption down much of this thread that Clico Life has the (illiquid) assets to fully reserve its risks. That is not logic. It’s religion. And for fault look to management. Regulators also bear some blame. But it is easy for insurers to present good numbers with so much premium cash flowing. No insurer wants to reveal stresses. Most of all to regulators.

    The key to saving this firm was to stop EARLY the withdrawals the CL collapse started. That required direct gov participation and/or administration in/of the operations.

    That chance of a proper (ie cheapest) rescue may now have gone. The task is in any case even more complicated having allowed Clico to continue to write business all thorugh 2009 and into this year. New contracts must first pay the sales commissions of the agents before becoming profitable – which can take years. At the same time the insurer must reserve against the new risks. Double whammy: bigger under reserving problem, and no profit to show for it.

    A fixed percentage levy on all remaining policyholders might yet plug the hole but don’t hold your breath.


  17. Mia Mottley cannot take credit for bringing the illegal state of Clico statutory fund obligation to the public without accepting blame for the lost in confidence and subsequent run on the company. The two are linked together.

    Clico has paid out 118 million dollars to policyholders not solely due to matured policies or other investments, but due in part to a lost of confidence in the company.


  18. @ WIV

    “* Receive ownership to 500 lots @ $ 5.00 per sq. ft. in 2 years time ?”

    I ask again, does CLICO own any of this land?

    @ Adrian Hinds

    You up in Boston, much further than the distance between Barbados and Trinidad, yet still ‘aware’ of every single thing that happens in Barbados. Pray tell how on earth there could be a run on the parent company in Port of Spain and policyholders in Barbados stay calm? Trinidad collapsed, Belize collapsed, Bahamas collapsed, Guyana collapsed BUT in good ole’ Buhbaduss all is well. People need to stop drinking the kool aid.

    By the way, where/who is the person Parris fired that he referred to in his ‘paid’ advertisement?

  19. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    love

    Do you remember the following housing promises made by the DLP?

     In the first 100 days of the new DLP administration remove VAT from building materials on houses valued up to $400,000.
     Establish a Home Ownership Revolving Fund for public sector workers, providing interest free loans to appointed public servants with 5 years service who are first time homeowners. This fund will be capitalized with an initial injection of $40 million.
     Provide 500 lots of land in five (5) months at $5 per sq foot for first time homeowners. These lots have been identified and land will be acquired by private treaty where necessary to speed up the process.
     Provide 2,500 house spots for sale to low and middle income wage earners in the first term of a DLP government.
     Commit to building 2,000 housing solutions per year in the first term of a DLP government. These will include rental units, terrace units and starter homes.
     Increase the tax deduction for mortgages to $20,000.00 per year.
     Commit to building and maintaining a pool of rent-to-purchase units for low-income earners, pensioners, and the disabled who may not qualify for mortgages and loans.
     Commit to realizing the concept of Housing Communities, for low income earners in which all the amenities – social, recreational and commercial are provided e.g. day nursery, play area, laundry,mini-mart.
     Promote the concept of starter home projects and partner with private sector companies (through tax incentives) in promoting the concept of “build and live”, a long tradition in Barbados.
     Explore the concept of reverse mortgages with the financial institutions and give incentives where necessary, to provide for dignified standards of living for our elderly in their golden years.

    How many of the promises have been honoured?????


  20. @Anonymous

    To echo Adrian’s point, it is a confidence sensitive business.

  21. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    AH

    How could you blame ms mottley for the loss of confidence the people have in clico. It is my understanding that by their own admission clico said their communications on the issues was not the best. When someone turns up for a refund of their investment and cannot get it, do you not think that confidence will be lost?

  22. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    Remember this promise from the DLP manifesto

    “A new DLP administration will examine the feasibility of removing the VAT on utility bills for households and businesses alike.”

    If the government has examined the feasibility then tell us the outcome.

  23. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    Remember this promise about the basket of goods

    “A new DLP administration will review the basket of goods on which VAT and other impositions have been removed. It is obvious that that basket is too limited and in light of the high incidence of chronic non-communicable diseases and the need for healthier eating among the population something must be done to ease the cost of foods that fall into these categories. We commit to expanding that basket significantly, following full consultation with sector stakeholders, consumer bodies, and nutritional experts”

  24. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    A promise from the dlp manifesto which we need in this year’s budget

     “Introduce a deductible allowance for nursing home fees and expenses”.

  25. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    love

    As a result of a minister hand picking his/her party supporters to serve on the constituency councils how are all Barbadians having a “Voice on Constituency Councils. “

  26. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    Anyone remember this promise that was made about financing the deficit

     “Seek any domestic financing from the capital markets in preference to the heavy reliance on national insurance funds;”

    How much did the NIS advance government in 2009/2010 and how much will it advance government in 2010/2011?

  27. Barnabas Collins Avatar
    Barnabas Collins

    @David……

    There are certain issues I think that should not be politicised and this one is such an issue. Who is to blame in my opinion is irrelevant at this point. We have bajans whose money is in jeopardy. We have bajans who will lose their jobs in this time of economic peril. This cannot be a good situation not for Mr. Parris but the everyday employees at Clico companies. My heart goes out to them and I pray that there is a sliver lining for all those employees who pensions might be in trouble because politicians doing what they do best…politics…

    BC


  28. David, I am at a loss as to why you would blame a lack of confidence in CLICO on verbalisations by the Opposition.

    Certainly, I can appreciate that they should have, via the Supervisor of Insurance, have known about the problems three years ago. THAT is where I would place blame.

    However, in the last year, the loss in confidence in Clico resulted from both the run in T&T, well publicised as it was, following on the feet of ‘street talk’, early last year. Yes, people say that as early as February last year, Clico was offering ridiculous rates on large deposits, which indicated that they had cashflow issues, save for the gullible.

    That said, concerns as to ownership of assets etc must be a concern and SHOULD be discussed openly and transparently, as there is so much at stake.

    Further, ‘Trained Economist’ above is right in asking as to where the financial statements are. To see these would be interesting.


  29. Donald Duck, Esq // March 31, 2010 at 7:39 PM

    Remember this promise from the DLP manifesto

    “A new DLP administration will examine the feasibility of removing the VAT on utility bills for households and businesses alike.”

    If the government has examined the feasibility then tell us the outcome.
    ****************************************************

    Donald Duck,

    The more you quack , the more rational Barbadian voters understand why your tieffing and inept BLP party was kicked from office at the ratio of 20 – 10.

    This DLP Administration is a very prudent one.

    Not the one you supported who is yet to explain how after spending:

    * $ 80 million dollars on a dump…….it cannot receive a THIMBALL full of garbage ten years later !

    * $ 700 million on a prison to house 1200 convicts with an accumulated debt to be paid for the next 25 years !

    WE in the DLP will manage the affairs of this country and implement our policies as the economic climate allow.

    Remember we have a 5 year mandate ( in the first instance ) only 2 years have passed.

    You idiotically behave as though our 5 year mandate is up !

    So you stop there and sweat it out……Donald Duck.


  30. Adrian et al. We are here blaming Owen, blaming David, blaming Mia and even blaming ourselves. Have you sit back and realise why Clico is now faced with such a financial mess is due to the wild investments that have no immediate cash value especially within a financial crisis. Do you feel that the $118 million they are faced with are monies from the small man ? Nope, that money comes from the large businesses that were looking for short term profits. That is the risk involved in any financial transaction. If the world financial crisis didn’t take place, we would not have heard of the Enron Scandal, the Madoff Scandal the Stanford Scandal ,,,,,this is when the profits starts drying up and the taxes start looking uncontrollable.


  31. Tell Me Why,

    Bingo. Very well said. The financial crisis, which was basically the long threads of the weave unwinding, dropped the curtain to expose all of the over-valuation and questionable accounting etc.

    In dealing with the result, we have to take the view that those who have stewardship, must be transparent and must be rational, because of the stakes involved.

    That said, which other companies have investments overseas that may have gone ‘awry’.

    THAT is even more worrying. Wish I could see all their portfolios.

  32. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    Love

    You are misleading your members and the public when you say that “$ 700 million was spent on a prison to house 1200 convicts with an accumulated debt to be paid for the next 25 years ”

    Then again your party can never get the facts straight!!!!


  33. @Crusoe

    The financial crisis took out many good companies. In some countries who could afford it they bailed some of those companies out.


  34. Donald, you are trying too hard. Just like Ms. Mottley. The only thing is that no one is interested in your empty posturing.


  35. Was / is The Executive Premium Flexible Annuity (EPFSA) a Ponzi / pyramid scheme?


  36. @Nostradamus

    Was / is The Executive Premium Flexible Annuity (EPFSA) a Ponzi / pyramid scheme?

    If it was bear in mind it would have been a product approved under the former administration. During the no-confidence motion brought by the BLP Barbadians would have heard that some MPs were EPFSA account holders. Were they able to get their money out. It would be an interesting to know.


  37. @ David

    Did that “product” (EPFA) have to be approved by the previous or any administration or regulator?

    I have not a clue but if I had to guess I would not have thought so.

    So much blame is being heaped on both the past and present administration but isn’t the failure not principally one of management of the said companies and regulation by the agency charged with that responsibility?

  38. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    Albert and love

    Would you believe me if i told you that I have heard from reliable sources that your party is about to impose a tax on all locally produced food items. That includes sales of ground provisions, vegetables and the like.


  39. While we squabble with each other in defense or support of our favorite political party, were no eyebrows raised on reading the story on the back page of today’s Nation newspaper? Look who are “in bed” together : Mr T’s children godfather and Mr A’s buddy (is there a godfather relationship in that too?) Maybe it is just an April Fool’s Day joke.


  40. Was / is The Executive Premium Flexible Annuity (EPFSA) a Ponzi / pyramid scheme?
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    Exactly my friend. All the pretty language relates to short term investment embodied with a financial risk. That is the price investors and financiers like Madoff et al have to pay. Simply, RISK extraordinaire.

    LOVE or WIV
    Can you elaborate regarding the Conflict of Interest by certain Clico management as purported on within the Front Page article in Today’s Nation.

  41. Alex Fergusson Avatar

    On this Clico matter–it must be noted that instead of standing with the 40,000 policy holders of Clico and their families–the entire DLP opted to wrap themselves in Clico’s flag.

    Even the so-called Independent Member, who is on government’s take (pay-roll) opted to sing for his supper and stood with Clico, Parris and Thompson.

    http://archive.nationnews.com/archive_detail.php?archiveFile=2009/March/07/Politics/2091902.xml&start=0&numPer=20&keyword=no+confidence+motion&sectionSearch=&begindate=1%2F1%2F2009&enddate=4%2F1%2F2010&authorSearch=&IncludeStories=1&pubsection=&page=&IncludePages=1&IncludeImages=1&mode=phrase&archive_pubname=Daily+Nation%09%09%09

    It is why the entire DLP now have egg on their faces. They turned their backs on the people of Barbados for Clico’s $15 million campaign financing in the last election.

    Many of them (DLP candidates) were passed poor people’s premiums to buy million-dollar houses, and brandname cars. Imagine! A lot of DLP Ministers were driving open-back pick-up vans before the elections. Most of them declared to the EBC that they spent upwards of $40,000 – yet they were miraculouly able to buy Jaguars, Mercedes, and BMWs after spending that amount in a general election.

    I am now reading that retired Judges, Doctors and ordinary people – cannot get their money out of Clico.

    People who have money in Clico are being told that getting their money out – is not a priority and that the priority is paying the staff who are working but have been prevented from writing new policies.

    This is ugly and says something about Clico and the DLP, which are one in the same.

  42. Alex Fergusson Avatar

    Regional impact

    Across the region – in the Bahamas, Barbados, Belize and Guyana – the effects were felt from the fall-out in one of CL Financial’s main subsidiaries, Clico(Caribbean Life Insurance Company).

    Many of Clico’s local operations were wound up, ended up in court or saw government interventions to protect the company’s clients.
    Jobs were inevitably lost.

    Clico had interests in Antigua and elsewhere

    In the OECS (Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States), finance ministers discussed a plan for a new company to take over the operations of British American Insurance, another CL Financial/Clico subsidiary.

    There has also been the political fall-out.

    In home country Trinidad and Tobago, the Attorney General Brigid Annisette-George resigned after 18 months in the job, because of a potential conflict of interest regarding Clico, which was taken over by the government in January.

    In Barbados, the opposition Barbados Labour Party lost a motion of no confidence over the Prime Minister’s David Thompson’s handling of the fallout of Clico’s holdings on the island.

    The majority of the ruling Democratic Labour Party prevailed.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Click here to reminded of the Prime Minister David Thompson/DLP/Thompson Associates/Clico fiasco

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/caribbean/news/story/2009/09/090911_clicoaftershock.shtml

  43. Alex Fergusson Avatar

    @ David!

    Yes David–Clico is a ponzi scheme. Not just a ponzi scheme but an elaborate ponzi scheme. The brightest and most respected people world say so:

    Click here for the proof:

    .http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161487723

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    FORENSIC investigator Robert Lindquist has uncovered what is being described as an elaborate scheme within the CL Financial Group, where annuities, with attractive returns, were being sold by insurance power house CLICO but that customers’ investments were being funnelled for ghost services to the group.

    Reliable sources have disclosed that the scheme, akin to the Ponzi scheme operated by Wall Street money manager Bernard Madoff, was launched back in 1997 as CL executives took advantage of a loophole in the existing insurance legislation and excess liquidity in the marketplace.

    In Madoff’s case, the fraud, which US prosecutors say may have totalled nearly US$65 billion, turned him into an overnight global disgrace, as his name became synonymous with the current economic meltdown.

  44. Alex Fergusson Avatar

    Sorry about that. The link was not activated. Here goes:

    http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161487723


  45. @Nostrodamus

    It is known that any new product in a situation such as the one we are discussing would need the blessing of the regualtor, that is what a regualtor is for. Remember there was the initial discussion about whether this annuity product is a bona fide insurance product or not. There is a lot of grey in the current legislation on this point, if this is the case the Supervisor of Insurance should have stepped in and clarified a long time ago. It is important to establish where the system went South because last time we checked the Supervisor of Insurance and by extension the government has an insurance industry to manage.

    A worrying note could be the fact some insurance companies in Barbados who would have invested in the annuity product may be holding such as part of their statutory reserve.

  46. Alex Fergusson Avatar

    @ David

    Here is an extract of what was said by the Leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition – The Hon. Mia Amor Mottley, Q.C., M.P., on March 6, 2009 – during the no-confidence motion the Opposition brought against Finance Minister David Thompson:

    +++++++++++++++++

    “Mr. Speaker, I will, in the course of this speech, establish that the Minister of Finance has failed in his duty and has breached the public’s trust by the following:

    1. Misleading the public, more particularly the policyholders, depositors and their families, when he made the statements on the 31st of January to the effect that deposit holders, pension holders and annuity holders were safe and that CLICO Barbados was sound, prudently managed and well regulated.

    I will further establish that he has failed not only to indicate at the time of the filing of this Motion what the statutory deficit was, but equally to indicate what action his Government would urgently take to protect the almost 40 000 policyholders and to ensure that these people would not be exposed at this extraordinarily difficult time in the regional and international economy.

    Sir, what is the risk to face Barbadian policyholders? Before I go into that, Sir, I would want to make one comment at the outset.

    This Parliament is addressing this issue today now for the first time since it broke, not because the Government has brought it here, not because there is a Ministerial Statement from the Minister of Finance, as the Prime Minister of The Bahamas would have found fit to do on Monday in his Parliament – I make a copy of that Ministerial Statement available to this House – not because this Parliament has had a Government bring legislation here as the Government of Trinidad and Tobago did when the issue broke; but because we in the Opposition have brought it here.”

  47. Alex Fergusson Avatar
    Alex Fergusson

    Here is more of what was said by the Leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition – The Hon. Mia Amor Mottley, Q.C., M.P., on March 6, 2009 – during the no-confidence motion the Opposition brought against Finance Minister David Thompson:

    ++++++++++++++++

    “On that same afternoon on the 30th of January, the Chairman of CLICO Holdings Barbados held a press conference and indicated that CLICO Barbados was separate from that of Trinidad and it was not affected by what was taking place in Trinidad and Tobago, that the troubles of the parents were not the troubles of the child. Indeed, an assertion that is impossible not only biologically but in company law.

    On the following afternoon, the 31st of January, the Barbados Minister of Finance spoke, along with the Central Bank Governor of Barbados and the Supervisor of Insurance at his side, and said the following words and I quote:

    “Obviously, Barbadians would be extremely concerned as it would be difficult to concede that CLICO Barbados and CLICO Trinidad are not inextricably bound. Those with investments in CLICO Financial institutions would be justifiably concerned.”

    Sir, he went on to make these statements too, and I quote again.

    “I am satisfied that the actions taken by the Trinidad authorities are correct and appropriate for the circumstances facing CL Financial in Trinidad.

    We are fully satisfied that CLICO’s Barbados operations are sound, prudently managed and well regulated. Barbadian depositors, investors and holders of insurance policies can therefore be considered safe in the context of our financial sector.”

    Mr. Speaker, he ended as follows, and I quote again:

    “I assure you that the Government will constantly monitor this situation and will act in a timely manner to protect the financial interest of all Barbadians.”

    Sir, the Prime Minister’s statements were designed to give Barbadians the assurance that their money was safe, and indeed Barbadians took him at his word as they must always be able to do with a Minister of Finance. ”

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  48. Sylvan Greenidge Avatar
    Sylvan Greenidge

    Brutus // March 30, 2010 at 9:26 PM

    “To truly set the record straight you would have to give us the split between Barbadian and non-Barbadian policyholders.

    Furthermore it appears to me that your argument would only apply to the non-Barbadian policies that were taken over in 1997.

    I hope you are not suggesting that all of the policies written since then are also not subject to the statutory fund requirement. This would mean that they are Colonial Life policies and that Clico Life has not written any policies at all”.

    Fair and Balance // March 30, 2010 at 12:39 PM
    “The fund deficit still has to be monitored by the supervisor even if it is Clico Trinidad”.

    Let me first address the issues raised by Brutus. The first piont that must be made is that prior to 1997 all applications made for insurance were made on applications forms address to Colonial Life Insurance Trinidad. This was in keeping with the statement made on page three of the 1997 Financial Statement which stated that Clico International Life Insurance Limited was incorporated in Barbados on January 17, 1986 and commenced business on January 1, 1994. Up until this piont Colonial Life Insurance Trinidad was responsible and owned all policies written by Clonial life Barbados. The statutory fund was held and owned by Colonial Life Insurance Trinidad.

    You will note that Clico Life Insurance Barbados is a wholly owned subsidiary of Clico Holdings Barbados which is incorporated in Barbados but whose parent is C. L. Finanacial – incorporated in Trinidada and Tobago. It therefore stands to reason that all properties owned by Colonial Life Barbados, Clico Holdings Barbados and Colonial Life Trinidad are ultimately owned by C. L. Finanacial, Trinidad and this includes the life insurance and pension porfolios.

    Now that was up until December 1996. In January of 1997 Clico Life Insurance Barbados bought over some branches from Clico Life Trinidad. The question is, did the statutory fund being held by Colonial Life Insurance Trinidad in relation to those policies bought over when the acquition was made? This is a question that the legal advisor of Clico Barbados could answer for us.

    The other question is this. Can the Supervisor of Barbados or indeed the BLP Government at the time be held accountable for the establishment of a statutory fund in a case where the company had not completed the acquition? As it stands at present Colonial Life Insurance Trinidad owns all the policies written by Colonial Life Insurance Barbados.

    Now to Fair and Balance. All the Supervisor of Insurance Barbados can do is request from Colonial Life Trinidad is a commitment that the policyholders in Barbados will be financially protected. That commitment came from Colonial Life Insurance Barbados by way of the strenght of C. L. Financial.

  49. Alex Fergusson Avatar
    Alex Fergusson

    Here is more of what was said by the Leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition – The Hon. Mia Amor Mottley, Q.C., M.P., on March 6, 2009 – during the no-confidence motion the Opposition brought against Finance Minister David Thompson:

    It actually strengthens the point made above by Mr. Sylvan Greenidge

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    “Mr. Speaker, what is the second risk?

    I have said that the size of this deficit in the context of the global crisis and decline in real estate prices means that there is a real risk that CLICO Life does not have enough liquid assets to meet the claims of Barbadians.

    This is now compounded by the natural unwillingness of people in this country to want to buy any new products, not just at CLICO but perhaps at any insurance company, because of the global and regional financial uncertainty, so there is likely to be a reduction of inflows to the company.

    Mr. Speaker, as I indicated, I have been told that in the past the strength of CL Financial Statements, the parent company to CLICO Life (Barbados) Ltd., would have been able to satisfy regulators that if there were any issues, the parent company could step in and assist. But we know that is no longer available to the country, so that there is an increased risk as a result of that.

    Mr. Speaker, what is the third risk?

    I told you that there have been multiple claims and legal actions by regional Governments that impinge on the assets that back the interest of Barbadian policyholders. ”

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  50. @Sylvan Greenidge – all I can say is that, with all due respect, what you wrote immediately above is utter nonsense.

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