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muslim_mafiaIt is no secret to BU the 911 event which occurred in New York on the 11 September 2001 has added to tensions between the Muslim and Christian worlds. The reported terrorist acts which resulted in the demolition of the Twin Towers, damaged to the Pentagon and tragically resulted in the loss of many lifes has scared world history. The act was tracked to the Al Qaeda network by the US authorities and predictably the fallout has reverberated across the world. During the last US Presidential Election Campaign the foreign policy the candidates would adopt if elected was placed under heavy scrutiny especially concerning the current conflicts in Muslimย  Iraq, Afghanistan and for other reasons Iran. To President Barack Obamaโ€™s credit he fulfilled a campaign promise when he delivered a speech targeting his message at the Muslim world back in May designed to ease tension. He demonstrated courage and imagination by travelling to Egypt to do so.

Eight years later BU is not sure there has been any deflation of tensions even though President Obama has been able to benefit by being awarded a Nobel Peace prize significantly attributed to his efforts at enabling a climate which encourages peace.

It must concern President Obama now that he carries the weight of being a Nobel Laureate; the unravelling revelation in a book just released that the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) has been fingered in a memo obtained through Paul Sperry’s newest book Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld that’s Conspiring to Islamize America, CAIR lays out plans to place interns in the Committees on the Judiciary, Intelligence, and Homeland Security for the purpose of influencing policy.

Interesting indeed, so what does the future hold?

A Free Press For A Free People

‘Now we have proof’ jihadis infiltrating D.C.

Congress seizes on explosive new book based on daring undercover CAIR probe

In the wake of the sensational ACORN video sting operation by two young investigators, an even more daring, dangerous and devastating undercover investigation – this one infiltrating the nation’s most aggressive Muslim “civil rights” organization for six months – has resulted in stunning revelations about the supposedly “moderate” group, backed up by 12,000 pages of documents and 300 hours of covert video obtained during the secret op.

As revealed in a new book detailing the operation and its findings, the Washington, D.C.-based Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, is not the beneficent Muslim civil-rights group it claims to be. Rather, as indisputable evidence now shows, CAIR and other “mainstream” Islamic groups are acting as fronts for a well-funded conspiracy of the Muslim Brotherhood โ€“ the parent of al-Qaida and Hamas โ€“ to infiltrate and destroy the American system.

Until now, CAIR has remained a powerful force in the nation’s capitol and across the country, from demanding the Obama administration stop FBI counter-terrorism tactics to compelling a school district to apologize to Muslims.

That influence, many believe, may be coming to an end, as a result of the stunning undercover investigation — which included the son of a veteran counter-terrorism investigator, who grew a beard and converted to Islam, as well as two veiled female interns.

CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad shakes hands with intern Chris Gaubatz, aka David Marshall, at CAIR’s national headquarters in Washington, D.C., in 2008

“Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That’s Conspiring to Islamize America,” a WND Books publication by counter-terrorism investigator Dave Gaubatz and “Infiltration” author Paul Sperry, documents CAIR’s ultimate purpose to transform the United States into an Islamic nation under the authority of the Quran.

The book already has prompted action on Capitol Hill.

With evidence from “Muslim Mafia” in hand, U.S. Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., co-founder of the Congressional Anti-Terror Caucus, and other members of Congress โ€“ including Reps. John Shadegg, R-Ariz., and Paul Broun, R-Ga. โ€“ plan to hold a press conference today in Washington calling for an investigation and an end to political lobbying by front groups such as CAIR.

“Now we have proof โ€“ from the secret documents that this investigative team has uncovered, coupled with the ones recently declassified by the FBI โ€“ that [radical Islamists] agents living among us have a plan in place, and they are successfully carrying out that subversive plan,” Myrick writes in the foreword to “Muslim Mafia.”

Noting that CAIR has tried to hide its strategy, finances, membership, internal disputes and much more from public view since its founding in 1994, Islam expert Daniel Pipes lauded “Muslim Mafia” for definitively exposing the “tawdry and often illegal inner workings of radical Islam’s most aggressive organization in North America.”

“The revelations in this book should both put CAIR out of business and permanently discredit the Islamist cause,” Pipes said.

Undercover

The book begins as a real-life, heart-pounding thriller, with Chris Gaubatz, the son of co-author David Gaubatz, preparing to go underground as an intern for CAIR at its Herndon, Va., office.

Astoundingly, the younger Gaubatz, posing as a bearded Muslim convert, ends up with a position at CAIR’s national office in Washington, just three blocks from the U.S. Capitol building, working alongside top leaders Ibrahim Hooper, Nihad Awad and Corey Saylor.

Along with declassified government documents, the book unveils thousands of e-mails, faxes and internal memos that were never meant for public viewing.

Chris Gaubatz and CAIR Communications Director Ibrahim Hooper working the CAIR booth at the 45th annual convention of the Islamic Society of North America in Columbus, Ohio, in 2008

The new evidence shows that CAIR โ€“ already designated an unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terror-financing case in U.S. history โ€“ is part of an organized crime network in America made up of more than 100 other Muslim front groups that collectively comprise the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood.

“Muslim Mafia” also exposes the inner workings of the mob-like Brotherhood and explains its broader conspiracy of infiltrating the American government and “destroying Western civilization from within.”

“The evidence found in the investigation is incontrovertible,” said co-author Sperry, noting that the book has more than 40 pages of footnotes and an appendix with more than 50 pages of exclusive confidential documents.

The Brotherhood is known within Islamist circles as the “Ikhwan mafia” because of its highly organized structure, centralized control and covert operations. CAIR, reveals “Muslim Mafia,” is one part of the network of front groups, cut-outs and shell companies that shield the Brotherhood’s criminal activities from authorities.

“These guys talk about jihad and murdering Jews like the mob talked about killing โ€“ totally casual, like they were ordering pizza,” said one FBI official in Washington quoted in the book.

Some key smoking-gun revelations detailed in “Muslim Mafia” include:

  • New evidence that CAIR was launched to support the Hamas terrorist group, and has transferred tens of thousands of dollars to a group recently convicted as Hamas’ top fundraising arm in the U.S. – money that ended up aiding terrorist attacks on Israelis and Americans;
  • Internal documents showing CAIR, despite claims of cooperating with law enforcement, actively works behind the scenes to mislead and deceive the FBI on behalf of terrorism suspects – and has even cultivated Muslim moles inside law enforcement who have tipped off FBI terror targets;
  • CAIR is more closely tied to al-Qaida than previously reported;
  • CAIR claims to represent all Muslim Americans, however, it has victimized some 100 indigent Muslims in a massive fraud and threatened them when they tried to go to the media; and internally, personnel complaints reveal CAIR discriminates against Shiite Muslims and Muslim women within its own headquarters;
  • CAIR and its sister fronts are funded by foreign Muslim Brotherhood sources;
  • CAIR leaders share the Muslim Brotherhood’s ultimate goal to replace the U.S. Constitution with Shariah law;
  • The Muslim Brotherhood investment in corporate America will be used to pressure U.S. companies into compliance with Islamic principles.

The book also shows radical Muslims in the U.S. are working to support Palestinian terrorists, destroy Israel, gut U.S. anti-terrorism laws, loosen U.S. Muslim immigration policies and convert Americans to Islam.

The authors explain they targeted CAIR because it helps control the “religious crime syndicate from its power base in Washington, the capitol of the same government it wishes to overthrow.”

While the FBI has cut formal ties to CAIR in the wake of its designation as an unindicted co-conspirator in a plot to fund the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, the group has virtually unfettered access to Capitol Hill and continues to wield influence in the White House.

Certificate signed by Nihad Awad and awarded to Chris Gaubatz for completing his internship

CAIR, the book reveals, regularly reserves meeting rooms and prays Fridays alongside Muslim Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., and a growing number of Muslim staffers.

The first Muslim elected to Congress and a de facto CAIR board member, Ellison predicted in one CAIR power breakfast he soon would be flanked by 15 other Muslim congressmen, “Muslim Mafia” notes.

Chris Gaubatz, in fact, once found himself praying elbow-to-elbow with Ellison during a Friday prayer gathering attended by CAIR inside the U.S. Capitol.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., the book says, is totally in the dark about the threat, and so is the White House.

In fact, reveals “Muslim Mafia,” in the White House President Obama is hiring Muslims โ€“ including an adviser who advocates compliance with Shariah law โ€“ based on resumes solicited from Muslim Brotherhood fronts.

Meanwhile, the FBI is in conflict internally about how to deal with the Brotherhood, with some top officials in favor of maintaining outreach, while counter-terror case agents in the field strongly object, pointing to evidence the network is a factory for homegrown terror and is secretly carrying out activities hostile to the U.S.

“They’ve achieved outrageous penetration at senior levels of our government,” veteran FBI special agent John Guandolo warns in the book.

Until recently, the FBI engaged in outreach activities with CAIR, including forcing rookie agents to take cultural field trips to area mosques.

The “Muslim Mafia” authors obtained notes revealing the FBI even has offered to sponsor Muslim youth camps with the Boys Clubs of America.

A shortage of Arab linguists and dozens of discrimination suits by Arab and Muslim employees has prompted the FBI to recruit from Brotherhood-related groups, such as the Islamic Society of North America

A Muslim agent who drew national attention when he refused to tape-record a fellow Muslim during a terrorism investigation was promoted and now recruits other Muslims to become agents and linguists.

‘Hit sheets’

The book also presents evidence CAIR has prepared “hit sheets” on its critics in the news media in an effort to intimidate them into silence.

Internal memos show, for example, top officials privately met with CNN executives in Atlanta to press them to cancel Glenn Beck’s program on its Headline News network. Beck now has a highly rated afternoon show on the Fox News Channel.

CAIR’s campaign to boycott leading nationally syndicated radio talk-show host Michael Savage’s advertisers cost more than $160,000, the book reveals. The authors recount how CAIR ran out of money before it could crack Savage’s most loyal sponsors.

The book also includes new revelations about CAIR’s role in the “flying imams” case in 2006 in which six Muslim leaders were removed from an airline flight in Minneapolis after passengers and crew members reported what they believed to be suspicious behavior.

“Muslim Mafia” also exposes CAIR’s secret agenda to criminalize anti-terror profiling by police and private entities.

Gaubatz is a veteran federal investigator and counter-terrorism specialist who served for more than a decade as a special agent in the U.S. Air Force’s elite Office of Special Investigations. He held the U.S. government’s highest security clearances, including Top Secret/SCI (Sensitive Compartmented Information), and was briefed in many so-called black projects.

Gaubatz also is a State Department-trained Arabic linguist with more than two decades of experience in the Middle East, including tours in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Jordan and Iraq. In 2003, he led a 15-man team to rescue the family members of the Iraqi lawyer credited with saving Army Private First Class Jessica Lynch.

Sperry, a media fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, is former Washington bureau chief for Investor’s Business Daily and former Washington bureau chief of WorldNetDaily.com.

His bestseller “Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington,” is being used by the U.S. military and top law enforcement departments nationwide. Many of the numerous stories he has broken on national security and counter-terrorism have been cited by the Washington Post, USA Today, UPI and the Associated Press, among others. His columns have appeared in publications such as the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, New York Post, Houston Chronicle, American Spectator and Reason.

One FBI official quoted in “Muslim Mafia” says CAIR and the other Muslim Brotherhood front groups differ from al-Qaida in that, while all share the same goals, they use different methods to achieve them.

“The only difference between the guys in the suits and the guys with the AK-47s is timing and tactics,” the official explained.


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603 responses to “Muslim Mafia In America: What Does The Future Bode?”


  1. NOTE: I see that *ant* is still alive, while unable to move or escape from the *epidermis* of the elephants foot, utterly unable to make any objective, rational sense of the facts!

    IGNORACE! What a curse!!!


  2. …also …the suppository is still firmly embedded in the anus of it’s host.

    Fear mongering……what deceit!!


  3. …Go to the *ant* thou sluggard, consider her/his ways and be wise. Which having no guide, overseer or ruler…….

    Seems to me I am in good company…ROTFLMAO!!


  4. Technician

    Denial is not a river in Egypt.

    Face a few facts and provide a clear alternative account that makes better sense of the facts, or you face some consequences of your remarks above.

    If you cannot justify your dismissal and demonisation, we are entitled to observe that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, the best explanation to date — in absence of convincing evidence otherwise — is that it is a duck.

    T (and onlookers), look at the multiply confirmed, multiple-source evidence that Maj Hasan jumped on a desk and shouted the traditional Islamic war cry before opening fire.

    Opening fire on people he knew were, by regulation in force, unarmed and out of quick reach of weapons; he was shooting fish in a barrel.

    This is the all too well- known modus operandi of Islamist terrorists.

    (Remember what happened to the flight crews and passengers on the 9-11 planes? Not to mention office workers?)

    Next, observe the pattern of issues, statements and associations — not to mention investigations — that have now surfaced, culminating in his reported spiritual home in a known radicalised IslamIST — not just Muslim — mosque and under the leadership that “nurtured” three of the nineteen 9-11 hijackers.

    This looks, walks, swims and quacks like a very familiar kind of duck, Technician.

    A jihadist duck, which as has been repeatedly noted is a FACTION of Muslims (whose overwhelming majority of victims are other Muslims; whom they conveniently categorise as slackers and apostates).

    In absence of a serious engagement of the facts, your ad hominem laced dismissal leads only to the reasonable conclusion that you are either in deep denial that blinds you to evidence, or else that you are a jihadist or fellow traveler or useful dupe.

    So, T, since you have insinuated agenda-driven dishonesty on my part, kindly show us convincing facts otherwise than has been summarised and linked above, and provide a credible explanation that addresses all the credible facts.

    Or, you stand exposed as one willing to denigrate, pejoratively label, demonise and dismiss, without having good evidence and reasons. All, in service to your own agendas or interests or preferred worldviews.

    So, T, which will it be?

    G’night

    D


  5. PS: Onlookers, have a look here at the testimony of “Richard,” a recent Muslim convert, and fellow officer at Ft Hood, who knew Maj Hasan and actually worshipped with him in a local mosque hours before the shooting.


  6. PPS: Some more facts and issues for T.


  7. ….is the Muslim phrase …โ€œAllah u Akbar!โ€only used by Jihadists before they carry out murder?
    As far as I know (from experience) this is used every day by Muslims just as much as you people say ‘praise God’…what is the difference?
    Could it not be a case of the persecution of fellow marines because he was a Muslim (especially if they were of you or Zoe’s ilk) that drove him to this?
    Timothy McVeigh was NOT Muslim but his actions were much worse.
    You ..Dictionary have called me on this blog a Jihadist…Now..where in that do I look like a duck?
    I am no more Muslim than you are Christian but you seem to think that as long as the great dick put a label, it is gospel.
    Call me stupid, an ant, Jihadist ….whatever…I really dont give a shit..your words mean nothing to me as you do not control my life.
    What i will not do, is to sit and judge people because I hate them or their culture. What makes yours better?


  8. “Opening fire on people he knew were, by regulation in force, unarmed and out of quick reach of weapons; he was shooting fish in a barrel.”

    +++

    And you have called for the bombing of Iran right here on this blog.

    How many innocents should be killed then? unarmed? by “policemen”?

    Sorry was it “limited strikes”?

    Now was there ever a word in context more filled with hypocrisy than “limited”?

    Perhaps those who would condemn terrorism should avoid advocating it first?

    Fort Hood, pre med terrorist plot? or lone madman?

    which is it D?


  9. MUSLIM MAFIA

    “BRICK IN THE WALL’

    “For now, however, the faithful still ‘have a lot of work to do, ‘he added.”

    “Shakir used the metaphor of a ‘wall’ to illustrate his point. Right now, he told Muslims, ‘you’re a brick in the wall of the *kaffir*, or the infidel. But once Muslim numbers and political clout grows, the American *ummah* or Muslim community, will become its own united wall – a ‘united front’ strong enough to strike the *kaffir*, Arabic for heathen. “Patiently preserve,’ he advised.”

    “It’s plain that the Muslim mafia views America as the big prize. If Muslims can conquer her, Skakir says, they can conquer the world for Allah.”

    “If the American people accept Islam, the implications for the world are obvious. This is the most powerful and influential nation on earth, without any argument,” he said. “So if the people here become Muslims, then the implications of that for the world are quite obvious.”

    “He gleefully remarked that this is only made possible thanks to America’s blind religious tolerance: “We’re safe and free to practice and advance our religion here.”

    “Like CAIR’s leaders, he respects American democracy insofar as it can be exploited to help the Brotherhood one day assume power here. And the only thing that could stop the *Islamization* of America, he notes, is if its people rose up and denied the movement the unbridled freedom it has heretofore enjoyed. (But if Americans did that, Muslims would then be obligated to exercise their supposedly ‘divine legal right’ to wage Jihad.)”

    “What a great victory it will be for Islam to have this country in the fold and ranks of the Muslims.” rejoiced Shakir, who is a regular speaker at CAIR functions. For now, he said, following the Muslim Brotherhood playbook, Muslims must continue to ‘create a state within a state.”

    “Indeed, theirs is a higly organised and self-contained world, or underworld – a parallel secret society.”

    “They have their own AFL-CIO: it’s called ISNA.”

    “They have their own American Bar Association: it’s called the Fiqh Council, which advises members of the application of *Shariah* law. (The Brotherhod charter also calls for the creation one day of a ‘Central Islamic Court’ in America.”

    “They have their own NAACP: it’s called CAIR.”

    “The FCA, moreover, is the MSA, or Muslim Students Association.:

    “Their United Way is (or was) the Holy Land Foundation.”

    “Their NEA is the Council on Islamic Education, or CIE.”

    “And their YMCA is WAMY – except, instead of holding basketball camps, it holds *Jihad* camps.”

    ‘PARALLEL SOCIETY’

    “The brotherhood’s ‘object is to establish, initially, a separate society for Muslims within that of their host nations in which non-Muslims are the majority,’ says former Pentagon official Frank Gaffney, now head of the Center for Security Policy in Washington. ‘This is accomplished by insinuating preferential arrangements for Muslims – religious accommodations, their own legal code and courts (that is SHARIAH), the territorial ‘no-go’ zones, and assorted political benefits.”

    “Initially,” he adds, ‘these seem modest and unthreatening. Separate rules governing dress codes. Accommodations in public spaces for the practice of a single religion. Latitude to deny service or handling of certain products in deference to religious sensibilities. Organized labor contracts that substitute Muslim holy days for Labor, etcetera.”

    “But once the Brotherhood gain such toeholds, Gaffney warns, it will keep the pressure on to secure greater and greater concessions, expanding toeholds into footholds and eventually, beachheads.”

    “Inevitably,” he says, ‘over time if not in relatively short order, a parallel society is in place that IS UTTERLY at odds with the supremcay of the U.S. Constitition, its precepts, freedoms, and instititions.”

    Thank God, some American policy makers, are seeing through this veneer of diabolical deception of these Islamic Jihadists, and their sinister MO to Islamize America.


  10. @Technician, you are a very IGNORANT man, meaning lacking *knowledge* especially, re the subject matter on this thread, apart from the obvious fact, that you CANNOT reason through with any common sense whatsoever, the plain evidence and facts pertaining thereto; such is your empty intellect, that why you say to Dictionary, “…your words mean nothing to me…” and NEVER will, such is the density of your *IGNORANCE*.

    Secondly, I used the figure of speech, ‘Simile’ involving the comparison of one thing to another, you are *like* an ‘ant’ you then in your usual ‘Ignorance’ state of being unlearned, refer to me as a sluggard, I could never be a sluggard, lazy, niether physically nor intellectually, where AS your academic, intellectual capacity IS certainly that of a *sluggard* LAZY, no knowledge at all; hence your *brain* is well seated IN your Rectorum, and can only speak of such bovine excrement, that’s why you are so well versed in ANAL discourse! Pure Shite!


  11. Excerpt from Telegraph,

    “One of Hasan’s neighbours described how on the day of the massacre, about 9am, he gave her a Koran and told her: “I’m going to do good work for God” before leaving for the base”

    +++

    You do ‘good work for god’ too, right D?

    …..those bombs on Iraq,

    …..those bombs on Afghanistan,

    …..those bombs you want on Iran,

    work for god?


  12. Another incoherent intestinal fool, son, and adherent of darkness, the ‘father’ of all lies, *god* of this world system!


  13. @ Zoe…

    WTF do you or Dicktionary know bout me??
    Because I dont subscribe to your beliefs, it makes me ignorant? Well it is bliss isnt it?
    You think that cutting ans pasting from the internet, the things that fit your agenda makes you God?
    I may not be as well versed in the ‘Bible ‘ as you but in my field I am a fucking genius!!..which makes you IGNORANT in my field.
    I do not need to pull down others because they differ from my points of reasoning nor do I try to force any of my views down others throats.
    All I do is look at it from a different angle….you think Anglicans,Catholics etc are all wrong and you and Dick are the only right on this blog, sorry to burst your bubble but we are not alike and will never be. Whereas you find joy in belittling others, I dont!
    Look at the ‘Christian’ losing his/her cool over a nonbeliever like me…what does that say about you?
    You need a dose of humility first before you come here with your arrogance….so run along now my little suppository and find the anus of your host and fully embed yourself!!


  14. Onlookers:

    You will observe that there has not been a coherent presentation of facts and inference to best explanation, to overthrow the pattern of evidence that points to Maj Hasan being a radical Jihadist, who acted out his ideology by committing a massacre at Ft Hood last week.

    But, the hostility and refusal to face the implications of unwelcome — to say the least [remember, we are talking of 13 murdered and a good fraction of 30 others who may well face lifelong medical challenges due to their injuries] — facts remain.

    That should tell us a lot about what is going on.

    Mow, some counter-points have been raised, which require corrective remarks:

    1] T: is the Muslim phrase โ€ฆโ€œAllah u Akbar!โ€only used by Jihadists before they carry out murder

    The traditional Islamic war cry was — on multiple testimony — used by Maj Hasan just before opening fire on a crowd of people whom he knew were unarmed; and so he ended up murdering 13 people (and that probably does not count the unborn child in the womb of one of his victims).

    In that context, it is quite plain that the phrase was used as a war cry.

    Thus, other possible uses of the phrase — as you know about from “experience” — are therefore plainly irrelevant.

    Not to mention, a distractive, red herring rhetorical tactic.

    2] Could it not be a case of the persecution of fellow marines because he was a Muslim (especially if they were of you or Zoeโ€™s ilk) that drove him to this?

    Observe, onlookers, the turnabout loaded accusation and ad hominems.

    FYI T, in this thread, I have objected to an extremist ideology [one that happens to be religiously motivated]; as I have objected to other extremist religious sects (including Christian ones) and to destructive or deceitful secularist and neo-pagan agendas. I have specifically made a distinction between people and ideologies, and between people and manipulative rhetorical tactics. I have corrected misleading arguments, as opposed to what I have repeatedly been falsely accused of (without apology) propagating bigotry.

    A principled and fact based objection to extremist factions of major movements is not at all the same as bigotry.

    So, please, get a civil tongue in your head.

    On the particular spin you suggest, the evidence of other Muslim soldiers — Maj Hasan was a SOLDIER not a marine, T — is that there is not a pattern of harassment of Muslims as such in the US Army etc, but instead of official protection and concern. Excerpting the just linked:

    >> A Muslim veteran affairs organization says it has not received reports of harassment from Islamic soldiers, contrary to claims by a relative of the man authorities say is responsible for the worst mass killing on a U.S. military base.

    Abdul-Rashid Abdullah, deputy director of the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council, told FoxNews.com that the nonprofit group has not received a single report recently of a U.S. soldier being harassed “simply because he was Muslim.”

    “That kind of report is inconsistent with what we’ve heard,” Abdullah said prior to a press conference in Washington to denounce Thursday’s shooting at Fort Hood, Texas, that left 13 dead and 38 wounded. Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a 39-year-old Army psychiatrist who was reportedly due to be deployed later this month, is accused in the mass shooting.

    Abdullah said his organization, which condemned the “unspeakable” attack, serves “several thousand” Muslim soldiers. >>

    There is — by contrast — a clear pattern of radical outbursts, ill-considered statements and actions of Maj Hasan that not only led concerned fellow soldiers and officers to seek to counsel him, but in one case led to his being put under disciplinary restrictions, and brought him under investigation. For instance the latest Daily Telegraph article has this lead:

    >> Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the gunman who killed 13 at America’s Fort Hood military base, once gave a lecture to other doctors in which he said non-believers should be beheaded and have boiling oil poured down their throats.

    He also told colleagues at America’s top military hospital that non-Muslims were infidels condemned to hell who should be set on fire. The outburst came during an hour-long talk Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, gave on the Koran in front of dozens of other doctors at Walter Reed Army Medical Centre in Washington DC, where he worked for six years before arriving at Fort Hood in July.

    Colleagues had expected a discussion on a medical issue but were instead given an extremist interpretation of the Koran, which Hasan appeared to believe . . .

    Fellow doctors have recounted how they were repeatedly harangued by Hasan about religion and that he openly claimed to be a “Muslim first and American second.”

    One Army doctor who knew him said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim soldier had stopped fellow officers from filing formal complaints.

    Another, Dr Val Finnell, who took a course with him in 2007 at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Maryland, did complain about Hasan’s “anti-American rants.” He said: “The system is not doing what it’s supposed to do. He at least should have been confronted about these beliefs, told to cease and desist, and to shape up or ship out. I really questioned his loyalty.”>>

    Even so, he was promoted to the relatively high rank of major, and was in process to be deployed to a war fighting zone where his declared conflicts of interest were an important factor. (So, on evidence, one factor here was institutional blindness to the possible implications of the pattern of radical Jihadist views, associations and intense feelings. [this is similar to the failure to pick up what was going on in the run-up to the Columbine incident. As to the McVey case, this is similarly a case of people becoming radicalised and acting out an extremist ideology in “retaliation” for the federal irresponsibility that led to the deaths of 84 at Waco. [This last, was a case where a federal level policing action was pushed too far, too fast — in the teeth of local police advice to the contrary, too — and ended up spinning out of control. That is another possibility that has to be faced, just as we have to deal with rogue cops and corrupt cops on the take. That is why I took time to speak about the issue of Interposition, as a key component of the message in Rom 13:1 – 10.])

    The further evidence is that the massacre was not a spontaneous and irrational outburst, but in effect a lone wolf “martyrdom” — oh, how this word has been twisted! — operation.

    3] You ..Dictionary have called me on this blog a Jihadistโ€ฆNow..where in that do I look like a duck

    T, your BEHAVIOUR has been consistent with one of a cluster of patterns, which I have listed: one in in blind denial, a jihadist, a fellow-traveller, a useful dupe [this last being a version on Lenin’s phrase]. In so pointing out the patterns you may be fitting into, I have called on you to correct that behaviour.

    Your turnabout personal attack in response (questioning my Christian commitment) is again, unfortunately, predictably consistent with the patterns above. Please, think about that; and like a good technician, take the troubleshooting info and do something positive about it.

    4] What i will not do, is to sit and judge people because I hate them or their culture. What makes yours better?

    T, perhaps you need to take a pause and look in a mirror.

    5] NS: And you have called for the bombing of Iran right here on this blog. How many innocents should be killed then? unarmed? by โ€œpolicemenโ€?
    Sorry was it โ€œlimited strikesโ€? Now was there ever a word in context more filled with hypocrisy than โ€œlimitedโ€? Perhaps those who would condemn terrorism should avoid advocating it first?

    How easy it is to play irresponsible rhetorical games with serious dilemmas, onlookers!

    If you will look above, I have taken careful time to identify and discuss a key comparative case, the rise of Nazi Germany and the origins of WW 2 in the face of appeasement and pacifism [which BTW, NS sought to twist into rhetorical pretzels]. In so doing I have contrasted the difference between reasonable leadership with reasonable concerns and requirements, and manipulative extremists who are skilled in exploiting out concerns, fears, horror and guilt over our own historical past and the like, to gain the time, resources and base they need to launch their campaigns of unlimited aggression.

    I have pointed out the horrible dilemma of being forced to launch a limited war on violation of international agreements by such dictators, to prevent the emergence of UN-limited massively destructive war later on; perhaps only a few years later on. (If France and Britain had acted in 1935 – 36, war would have probably cost 10’s of thousands of lives, maybe less in the earlier stages: awful. Their delay at that time allowed Hitler to build the defense line that blocked Western intervention while he attacked tot he east, first through intimidatory diplomatic and subversion games, then — with Austria and Czechoslovakia and the trucks and tanks he needed in hand — through blitzkrieg. When the dust settled in 1945, something like up to 40 millions were dead (it is the deaths in China that bring WW2’s totals up to 50 – 60 millions) and a continent was devastated — before nukes were in play.

    We have just seen the Iranian dictator brutally suppress dissent over his stealing of an election; in a context where he has publicly cited the words of religious founders and under-writers of Iran’s mahdist — thus global conquest — islamist revolutionary ideology on wiping Israel off the sands of time or the face of the map depending on whose rendering of the idiom you want to take; while sponsoring international conferences on Holocaust denial.

    We have just seen further evidence that he is nearing his goal of nukes deliverable by small missiles or suicide bombers; e.g. the recent reports in that bastion of Right wing propaganda — NOT — the UK Guardian on IAEA worries on learning of his testing of linear, two-point implosion technology.

    FYI, NS (& T), such bombs have two main uses: (a) small tac nuke warheads, and (b) suitcase bombs. Previously deployed versions of this base design include: nuclear artillery shells down to 51/2 to 6 inch calibre, nuclear rockets, nuclear land mines, and backpack/ footlocker/ suitcase “demolition” nukes. And, they are viable with 1.1 – 1.35 critical masses of fissile material (that is, more or less a four- to five inch ball of fissile material on being compressed through the explosion); the upper end allowing for fusion boost to give kiloton range city-heart- buster explosions.

    Explosions that if they were to say happen in Manhattan, Frankfurt, London City and Paris, would not only kill well over a million people easily, but would throw the world into utter chaos.

    So, we may be just months away from credible threat of suicide nuke terrorism and/or delivery by Iranian ballistic missiles developed with the aid of North Korea [which already has a nuclear gun to the head of its neighbours, South Korea and Japan due to appeasement games and a diplomacy of delay and taking promises of the untrustworthy seriously — and as a result Japan is probably already a covert nuclear power [assemble on warning . . . ], with South Korea probably following suit, and countries all the way to Australia and even Singapore seriously thinking about it; just transfer such proliferation to the far more unstable Middle east . . . ].

    In that context, I have argued that taking serious action now [it should have long since happened . . . ], leading to diplomacy clearly backed by teeth that leads Iran to stop the train before it runs over the cliff is the best outcome.

    Failing that, limited strikes that knock out the key nuke centres and lead on to serious talks on disarmament |(and probably to collapse of the current Iranian regime) are a bad, but better than worst case outcome. Such strikes would have to be more extensive than the ones that recently took out the Syrian programme [probably an “offshore “Husseing programme]. However, so serious is the threat that it is now fairly clear that Egypt and Saudi Arabia are cooperating with Israel behind the scenes to create a base for this option. Israel, as I recall, already has a base facility for a squadron of submarines in the Persian Gulf; and the cruise missiles to make them a credible weapons platform for precision strikes.

    I have no doubt that the Iranian opposition forces — in defence of the survival of their nation in the face of a mad regime — have beagled out the key locations and passed along the relevant target information long since.

    The worst case — which by implication of what you say you are opting for — is to play Appeasement II, which will sound very nice and comfortable, until we wake up one morning with several cities in nuclear flames.

    The resulting nuclear exchanges would wipe out a good part of the Persian Gulf oil patch, spread radiation clouds far and wide, and reduce the world to chaos. Or, if the decapitation strikes succeed, we will wake up not only to such cities in flames, but to our new masters: Messrs Ahamadinejad, bin Laden and co.

    In short, NS, in the real world of wolves and demonic madmen who — given time and opportunity — may access and use weapons of unthinkable magnitude, some serious and sobering decisions have to be made on which of evils is lesser.

    A lesser evil is not an absolute good, but it may by blocking worse yet evils, be the best we can get under current dispensations.

    Onlookers, do you see why we are asked to pray for those who have to make such horrible decisions?

    6] On the importance of “sword” armed policemen (and women)

    At the low end, the need to stop things before they get worse starts with the traffic cop tuning up her patrol car and responding to a commotion, then having to go up against a terrorist in full massacre mode with a service revolver.

    Taking three bullets to take him down too.

    And, had officers Munley and Marks failed, the report of the medical tech who stabilised Maj Hasan was that his cargo pockets were full of loaded magazines.

    THINK again NS and T.

    Please.

    Before it is too late.

    Dictionary


  15. Zoe:

    Please, do not descend into the cesspit of incivility with T and others.

    D


  16. PS: Looks like it was officer Mark Todd who fired the shot that took Maj Hasan down. Officer Munley’s selfless act of standing up and going toe to to with him, taking three bullets in the process, makes her the heroine of the sad situation.


  17. Kiki

    Interesting dub; though I confess Stand Firm and “Deliverance is near” have never had the same sound for me since 1980.

    Mark Steyn has a tellingly sharp take on all of this sad mess.

    D


  18. Yes, it is so true, “As in water face reflects face, So a man’s heart reveals him.” (Prov. 27: 19).

    In other words, as a man thinks, so DOES he speak, i.e., if his heart is full of *filth* cesspit filth, that IS what he speaks, revealing how he thinks?

    Attaing Wisdom and Gaining Understanding:

    “Wisdom IS the principle thing; therefore get wisdom. And in all your getting, get understanding.” (Prov. 4:7).

    Wisdom IS knowing the *truth* and how to apply it to any given situation; understanding IS *knowledge* seasoned and modified with *wisdom* and *insight* The words “wisdom” and or “wise” and “understanding” occur over 140 times in Proverbs!

    Acquiring Knowledge.

    The knowledge of Proverbs, consist of more than information, facts, and sense data. It IS knowledge that begins with the fear of the Lord and is therefore Godly knowledge that always includes Him as the primary factor. Because of its divine source, it comes with *understanding* implicit in it.

    Sadly, and unfortunately, though:

    “Though you grind a *fool* in a mortar with a pestle along with crushed grain, Yet his *foolishness* will not depart from him.” (Prov. 27: 22) emphasis added.

    So be it!


  19. Reality checks:no 1, No 2 — yes, months ago, the US Army (and/or CIA) knew Maj Hasan tried to contact Al Qaeda, and No 3.


  20. Reality Check cont’d: US Sen Lieberman, in WSJ:
    ______________

    >>Sen. Joe Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut [adn former US VP Democratic party candidate of 2000] who heads the Senate’s Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, said initial evidence suggested that the alleged shooter, Army Major Nidal Hasan, was a “self-radicalized, home-grown terrorist” who had turned to Islamic extremism while under personal stress.

    Mr. Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, had opened fire Thursday at a soldier processing center at Fort Hood, Tex., killing 13 and wounding 29 in the worst mass shooting on a military facility in the U.S.

    Mr. Lieberman, appearing on “Fox News Sunday,” cautioned that it remained too early to draw any definitive conclusions. He said his comments were based on “reports that we are receiving” about Mr. Hasan’s actions and comments . . . .

    Mr. Lieberman said that if news reports were true that Mr. Hasan had turned to Islamic extremism, “the murder of these 13 people was a terrorist act and, in fact, it was the most-destructive terrorist act to be committed on American soil since 9/11.”

    “We don’t know enough to say now, but there are very, very strong warning signs here that Dr. Hasan had become an Islamist extremist and, therefore, that this was a terrorist act,” Mr. Lieberman added.

    The lawmaker said he would begin a Senate investigation aimed at uncovering Mr. Hasan’s motives and asking “whether the Army missed warning signs.” He also called on the Pentagon to begin an independent investigation to determine whether “warning signs were missed.” >>
    _________

    As to why such signs were “missed,” the just previous linked comments may help us understand, and are related directly to the original post.

    D


  21. @Dictionary

    What is your point?

    Do you deny that embedded in all groups you will find bad apples?


  22. Onlookers:

    The Apostle Paul had some choice words about our civilisation and what has gone wrong with it (more than once, now).

    I think we need to heed these words:

    >>Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of people39 who suppress the truth by their40 unrighteousness,41 1:19 because what can be known about God is plain to them,42 because God has made it plain to them. 1:20 For since the creation of the world his invisible attributes โ€“ his eternal power and divine nature โ€“ have been clearly seen, because they are understood through what has been made. So people43 are without excuse. 1:21 For although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God or give him thanks, but they became futile in their thoughts and their senseless hearts44 were darkened. 1:22 Although they claimed45 to be wise, they became fools 1:23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for an image resembling mortal human beings46 or birds or four-footed animals47 or reptiles. [those days in pagan temples and on street corners; now in museums, in textbooks and on TV etc in the name of “science” . . . i.e.”knowledge.”]

    1:24 Therefore God gave them over48 in the desires of their hearts to impurity, to dishonor49 their bodies among themselves.50 1:25 They51 exchanged the truth of God for a lie52 and worshiped and served the creation53 rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

    1:26 For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged the natural sexual relations for unnatural ones,54 1:27 and likewise the men also abandoned natural relations with women55 and were inflamed in their passions56 for one another. Men57 committed shameless acts with men and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

    1:28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God,58 God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what should not be done.59 1:29 They are filled60 with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice. They are rife with61 envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility. They are gossips, 1:30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, 1:31 senseless, covenant-breakers,62 heartless, ruthless. 1:32 Although they fully know63 Godโ€™s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die,64 they not only do them but also approve of those who practice them. >>

    later on, he had this to say about those who become Christ-followers in the face of such a civilisational chaos:

    >> Eph 4:17 So I say this, and insist23 in the Lord, that you [must] no longer live as the Gentiles do, in the futility24 of their thinking.25 4:18 They are darkened in their understanding,26 being alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardness of their hearts. [Cf Plato’s famous parable here on how that happens, how it is sustained, and how those caught up in the fraudulent world system too often respond to those who try to open their eyes and set them free ] 4:19 Because they are callous, they have given themselves over to indecency for the practice of every kind of impurity with greediness.27 4:20 But you did not learn about Christ like this, 4:21 if indeed you heard about him and were taught in him, just as the truth is in Jesus. 4:22 You were taught with reference to your former way of life to lay aside28 the old man who is being corrupted in accordance with deceitful desires, 4:23 to be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 4:24 and to put on the new man who has been created in Godโ€™s image29 โ€“ in righteousness and holiness that comes from truth. >>

    In my considered opinion, that remains the best assessment of western civilisation in rebellion against God ever.

    And, the challenging call to a very different lifestyle in light of the One who came, descending, loving, liberating from sin, dying on a cross for our sins, was buried, and rose triumphant with 500+ witnesses, and has ascended as Lord, who will come again as Judge, remains the most important challenge we all face. One that we will struggle to fulfill: living by the truth of the risen Christ in love (which BTW sometimes includes having to administer the painful corrective wounds of faithful friendship).

    Grace, open our eyes.

    Dictionary.


  23. David:

    You will indeed find bad apples in all sorts of groups. That was never at stake.

    What has been is the question from the original post, of a jihadist subversive infiltration of halls of influence in our civilisation, with particular reference to CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas that on a considerable body of evidence discussed in part above lie behind CAIR.

    Also, this discussion is with reference to our region, where there are reported extensions of the same strategy and tactics. (E.g.: Just y’day I saw where the same Sheik El Faisal [Born: Trevor William Forrest] of Jamaica, educated in Saudi Arabia and sent to London who was gaoled and expelled back to Jamaica for subversion, is connected to a group celebrating the recent Massacre on the streets of the USA.)

    All this becomes intersting indeed, when we find many in blatant denial of objective, overwhelmingly evident reality [even manufacturing alternative narratives that simply do not match easily checkable facts], as has been evident on too many cases all through this thread, we need to ask ourselves why.

    Is it Stockholm Syndrome?

    Is it that many of us are so fixated on the frying pan [historic and ongoing western oppression] that we do not notice the fire [would-be IslamIST — as opposed to Muslim — oppression through Jihad (understood in the IslamISt sense through their reading of Q 9:5 and 29 etc) and hopeless subjugation under apartheid-like dhimmitude]?

    I cannot answer for sure.

    But I can say this, ever since Plato it was well known that when significant factions of a community are caught up in the myths of a system of imposition, they react with hostility to those who would point out the apparatus of oppression and manipulation, to set them free from such mental slavery as keeps them in denial of reality and opportunities for true liberation. (Sadly there is such a thing as counterfeit enlightenment and pseudo-liberation that ends up in subtler oppression, as Paul warns against in Rom 1 and Eph 4. but such things by their very nature will be marked by denial or rejection of the evident truth and right. Here I remind, from Aristotle’s classic remark: truth says orf what is, that it is; and of what is not, that it is not. [This little link will help a lot on that second order problem.)

    In the Ft Hood case that has arisen at the end of a long and at times painful discussion, the issues have been starkly plain. For, you can see the hot and even at times hostile denial of the evidence that Maj Hasan was a radicalised Islamist and acted out hat ideology, when confronted with the possibility of being sent to a war zone where Islamist terrorists are the enemy. In a situation where the relevant authorities in and around the US Army were plainly institutionally blind to many, many warning signs. (Sounds rather like the run-up to 9-11 to me . . . though on a smaller scale. [I bet, though, we will not see the same sort of enthusiastic major media house picking apart of what went wrong, as this is on the watch of an administration whose ideology aligns well with the dominant ones in the major US media houses. remember, the run-up was to basically November this time, not September . . .])

    If we are wise, we will learn from the experience and history of others; lest we find out the hard way the point of so many historians’ explanation of why bad chapters in history so often repeat themselves: we TYPICALLY refuse to learn from unpleasant history.

    G’day

    D


  24. PS: Sheik El Faisal link to the Revolution Muslim radical group [and BTW, the general Islamic leadership in J’ca denied/ dismissed/ doubted knowledge or evidence of his radical connexions and activities when he was deported to J’ca], paragraph just above “continues” line here.


  25. BU does have some concern about the fallout to becoming a multicultural society. What is means is customs alien to our society will take root but importantly our once stable islands will become a haven for groups of people comfortable with certain types of behaviours. Our islands need to proactively manage this situation.


  26. I guess this is whites are in
    asians (indians and chinky’s) are out
    type of racism


  27. David:

    Correct, multiculturalism (without getting into the other side of issues on radical relativism and secularisation or re-paganisation by secularist and neo-pagans) has its limits, as does internationalism.

    In particular militant Jihadist Islamism — not to be confused with ordinary, peaceful, familiar Caribbean Muslims who are trying to serve God the best they know how . . .

    1 –> rejects the legitimacy of nations apart from the domain of the Islamic Ummah under the caliph (leading up to the Mahdi),

    2 –> Reject other interpretations of Islam that are more irenic, dismissing them as slackers or apostates (thus declaring war on them too — hence, the majority of victims of today’s Jihadism are actually Muslims)

    3 –> Wish to proffer the “choices “of their interpretation of Q 9:5 and 29 to non-muslims defeated and/or subjugated by Jihad: i.e. only if you have a recognised religion will you have the option of apartheid-like, impoverishing and dehumanising dhimmitude.

    4 –> Do not recognise a fundamental equality of people, rights and worldview options.

    5 –> From the 1991 memo already cited, they wish to transform Mulim immigrant and convert communities in “dar ul harb” into essentially militant settlements towards subjugation. (This is already far advanced in say, France; hence the recent waves of car-burning riots . .. the news reports did not report just what the car burning “youths” were shouting; i.e. a certain war cry.)

    So, think about the significance of the “reserved” section of the Coral Ridge cemetery.

    And, think about the implications of Jamaica’s challenge of dealing with Sheik El Feisal, deported from the UK as a subversive.

    Similarly, for Guyana and Trinidad having to deal with El Shukrijumah.

    Or event he fact that the ship smuggling rockets to Hezbollah from Iran just captured by the Israelis and complained of to the UN Security Council is of ANTIGUA registry.

    The world — and our region too — just got a lot more complicated and dangerous, especially given the apparent achievement of two-point detonation, linear implosion nuke technology by Iran.

    D


  28. Kiki:

    Sigh . . .

    Please, the fallacious abuse of the loaded word “racism” serves only to drag a hot distractive red herring across the track of truth, and to lead it out to a strawman soaked in nasty ad hominem personal attacks; which on being ignited poisons, clouds and chokes the atmosphere with polarising smoke.

    It serves no good purpose, and besides it will eventually so undermine the real challenge of racism, that it will lose all effect. And, it is we blacks who are the ones who will pay the biggest price when that happens; when so many become so sick of being called racist for no good reason, that to call “racist” will be seen as simply an insult by someone too ill intentioned and intellectually lazy to address issues on the real merits, not a legitimate complaint.

    Remember the story of the boy who called wolf for fun, then when the real wolf came, no one would listen to him?

    FYI, radical Islamists — as did the Communists of an earlier generation — come in all races and colours [including blond haired and blue eyed nordics], and from all sorts of countries, including several of the leading ones being from the Caribbean.

    The issue we face is a global conquest ideology motivated by a particular reading of a major religious tradition, not a racial one.

    Surely, you can do better than that.

    And, I add that the other (and IMHO, actually more dangerous . . . ) cluster of worldview and ideological challenges we face in the Caribbean trace to radical secular humanist and neo-pagan agendas, which are usually championed by people who happen to be post-Christendom Caucasians.

    D


  29. The new world has much which is not so
    new.
    The war business.. 20th century weapons
    in 3rd world countries


  30. 21st century weaponry too


  31. Yes, the *Roots* of denial are well represented here on BU, in the teeth of a blatant solo Islamist Jihadist in the person of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, killing 13 people and wounding 29 before he was shot in the torso. Fifteen of his victims remained hospitalized with gunshot wound, while eight were in intensive care.

    Maj. Hasan IS regarded as a *Hero* by none other than a radical American *imam* living in Yemen Anwar al Awlaki, who was a spiritual leader at two mosques where three 9/11 hijackers worshipped, said American Muslims who condemned the Fort Hood attack are hypocrites who have commited treason against their religion, Islam!

    Awlaki also said, the only way a Muslim can justify serving in the U.S military IS if he intends to “follow in the footsteps of men like Nidal.”

    As I posted earlier re the *Leftist* psychosis, very evident on BU, is the *denial-excuse-justification-syndrome* who wish for victory of Islamist terror over Israel and the United States.

    The ideological faith, of these Leftists, therefore, is NOT at all a search for truth, BUT, it IS a movement. This is why there IS NO objective, coherent analysis of the facts and evidence of such Jihadist MO, the Leftists views becomes nearly inconceivable, as seen on BU, identifying with their brothers/sisters in the United States and around the world, the Noam Chomsky’s and Ward Churchill’s et al, as this psychological dynamic involves *negative* identification, whereby a person who has failed to identify positively with his/her own enviornment subjugates his/her individuality to a powerful, authoritarian entity, formally Communism, Fascism. Socialism etc., and now, radical Islamist Jihadism.

    They desired to harness the savagery in order to destroy their own society’s modernity and freedom, as did the 9/11 terrorist, who transformed the World Trade Center into Ground Zero.

    The Leftist, then becomes an enemy of his/her own society, the adversarial society, of all things they claim to hate, materialism, racism, sexism, homophobia, poverty, etc. But, the irony of this warped mindset of Leftists, is that historical evidence, proves that the Leftist is not truly concerned with these social ills at all, seeing that these ARE ALWAYS far WORST in the adversarial societies, AND, this is especially true of militant Islam!


  32. Okay okay *zoe* lets take it from here,
    VIVA. La Revolucian. …

    Ernesto ‘Che’ Guevara quotes :

    โ€œLet me say, at the risk of seeming ridiculous, that the true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love.โ€

    โ€œBetter to die standing, than to live on your knees.โ€

    โ€œWe are overcome by anguish at this illogical moment of humanity.โ€

    โ€œIf you tremble indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine.โ€

    โ€œI know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man.โ€

    โ€œThe revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall.โ€


  33. MUSLIM MAFIA

    INFILTRATION.

    ‘Members of the Group should be able to infiltrate the sensitive intelligence agencies of the embassies in order to collect information and build close relationships with the people in charge in these establishments.”

    -Secret U.S. Brotherhood charter found in possession of Brotherhood underboss and convicted terrorist Sami al- Arian.

    In light of what evidence that has surfaced re Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan’s history, his obvious Jihadist intentions, confimed by other doctors he was supposed to be lecturing on medical matters, instead, openly expressing his hatred for the American sysytem, and saying that non-Muslims’ should have *hot* oil poured down their throats, and these fellow doctors, did nothing about Hasan’s vile expressed views, for fear of being branded anti-Islam, the very thing that CAIR has used repeadedly across America, to deceitfully protect Muslims, all the while infiltrating many of America’s key instititions for the express purpose of gradually gaining influence to *turn* away the very authorities from their true *Islamist* Jihadist agenda, which WAS witnessed on Thursday at Fort Hood, by this radicalised Jihadist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan. Who IS still ALIVE, getting the best of American medical treatment, the very nation he HATES, while his lawyer says, ‘…We’re going to protect all of his rights.”

    Certainly, American law will assure him of all of his rights, due process, as God knows how many other Muslim men in the military, are now comtemplating such *Jihadist* intentions against their fellowmen, fueled, instigated, formented, by this firebrand, incendiary, *ISLAMIST* Jihadist hatred, against Americans!

    “Ali ‘The American’ Mohamed was a loyal member of the Muslim Brotherhood who emigrated from Egypt to spy for the Brotherhood in America. After failing to penetrate CIA operations, he infiltrated the U.S. Army as a sargeant and wound up at Fort Bragg training with U.S. Special Forces, where he obtained secret security clearance.” (Ibid., p. 271)

    “Although he was not a Green Beret, he worked alongside the elite Berets leaning unconventional warfare and counterinsurgency operations. The military trusted him, and before long, he was teaching soldiers about the Middle East at the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School, commonly referred to as ‘Swick’ – where unbeknown to his superior officers, he was stealing classified secrets.”

    “During weekends and other leaves from Fort Bragg, Mohamed would travel to New Jersey to train *al-Qaida* operatives in weapons and warfare tactics, which they would later use against the country Mohamed had sworn to protect. In a search of one terrorist’s home, authorities found U.S. Army training manuals, videos of Swick warfare instructions, and other classified materials.” (Ibid., p.271).

    Well, Maj. Dr. Nidal Malik Hasan, HAS the distinct Islamist Jihadist honour, of being the first American trained military doctor, to carry out such diabolonian, satanic, serpentine, attacks, from within the American military establishment.

    And, judging from his picture, very genteel, cultivated, cultured, refined, a psychiarist of all medical speciality fields, BUT, lurking from within, that buring Islamist *bombfire* waiting to erupt, explode, in honor of Allah, and Mohammad, a *god* who rewards hatred and evil, to any of his faithful adherents, who will venture to be one of his *martyrs* for the cause of advancing the Islamic imperative to control the world under *Shariah* law, one way or the other!


  34. “In short, NS, in the real world of wolves and demonic madmen who โ€” given time and opportunity โ€” may access and use weapons of unthinkable magnitude, some serious and sobering decisions have to be made on which of evils is lesser.”

    +++

    I agree, you are the lesser of two evils.

    But that still makes you evil.


  35. Yesterday, (Nov 9) marked the 71st anniversary of a very dark day in Jewish history, when Germany unleashed brutal attacks upon the Jewish people, resulting in the burning or damaging more than 1,000 synagogues, the ransacking of about 7,500 businesses and the murder of at least 91 Jews. Be encouraged to read *Crystal Night and Beyond* by Professor Robert Wistrich who is a scholar in the area of Anti-Semitism.

    All the Warning Signs Were There.

    By Sultan Knish

    “He is inside your borders. He works deep inside your political and social structures. Openly he expresses his support for your muderers and enthusiastically promotes his message of hate. The bumper sticker on his car reads, ‘Allah is Love’, but that love is the ‘love’ which the Koran 61: 4 describes as follows:”

    “Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way in ranks as if they were a firm and compact wall.”

    Sultan Knish addresses the issue of the media and law enforcement reluctance to address the most recent attack at Fort Hood as an *act of terrorism*.

    Another extremely significant issue, is the possibilty of the Obama administration endorsing a Palestinian State whether or not Israel agrees to it.

    If Obama should procede along this path, unilaterally, he has NO idea what he will bring upon America, not to mention himself!

    When Britain made this kind of mistake, by carving out 75% of the mandated, agreeded to in toto, by the League of Nations, ca 1948, for the State of Israel, creating the state of Transjordan, the de facto Palestinian State, robing Israel of its rightful homeland; from around that time, the British Empire started to crumble, fall apart.

    Whoever *divides* My Land, the covenanted area of Land given by Almighty God to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and their descendants the Jewish people, will BE cursed!

    Obama, will make the worst decision of his life, if he goes this route.

    Muslims have quoted the “Quraysh Model” as justification for many deceptive treaties. It means, “Negotiate ‘peace’ with your enemy UNTIL you become strong enough to annihilate him.” This is the justification Chairman Yasser Arafat gave to his critics who condemned him for signing the Oslo Agreement.

    Any concession backed by the Obama Administration, unilaterally, to divide Israel’s land, will be deadly, not just for America, BUT, allowing Palestinians, especially the Islamist Jihadist *Hamas* to get within closer range of fulfilling their openly declared objective, as outlined in article 7 of their charter, to *annihilate* Israel and all Jews, would instantly initiate World War III.

    ISLAM WARNED BY JEHOVAH GOD

    When Ezekiel predicted the miraculous Last Day restoration of the land of Israel, he also condemned the neighbouring nations for *confiscating* God’s land. Read how accurately the details of Ezekiel’s prophecy fit the current situation in “Israel-Palestine.”

    “And you, son of man, prophecy to the mountains of Israel, and say, ‘O mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord. Thus says the LORD God, ‘Because the *enemy* has spoken against you, ‘Aha!’ and, ‘The everlasting heights have become our possession”…Therefore, O mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LORD God. Thus says the LORD to the mountains and to the hills, to the ravines and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes and to the forsaken cities, which have become a prey and a derision to the rest of the NATIONS WHICH ARE ROUND ABOUT…Surely in the fire of My jealously I have spoken against the rest of the nations, and AGAINST ALL EDOM (collective name for Arabs), who appropriated My land for themselves as a possession with wholehearted joy and with scorn of soul, to drive it out for a prey…Therefore, thus says the LORD God, ‘I have sworn that surely the NATIONS WHICH ARE AROUND YOU will themselves endure their insults. But you, O mountains of Israel, you will put forth your branches and bear fruit for My people Israel; for they will soon come.” (Ezekiel 36: 1-8) emphasis added.

    Don’t mess with Israel!


  36. NS:

    RE: I agree, you are the lesser of two evils. But that still makes you evil.

    I freely confess to being a finite, fallible, fallen, struggling sinner whose only hope is the grace of God in Christ, the one who died for our sins, was buried and rose again as triumphant Saviour and Lord (with 500+ witnesses). And by that supernatural grace, I am growing towards the right and out of the wrong, step by painful step.

    That is what is implicit in any Christian commitment.

    However, it seems your remark was simply meant to be a barbed dismissal (evidently presuming that some are exempted from serious moral struggle and failings). And, that, in the teeth of serious evidence — onlookers: published in a major left-leaning UK newspaper, The Guardian! — that with the Iranians arguably being now in possession of two-point linear implosion small but destructive [ie. kiloton range fusion-boosted mini warheads can destroy cities, or at least city centres] warhead technology, the Jihadism issue is now at or rapidly approaches a critical threshold.

    For, such nukes could easily be mounted on the existing intermediate range ballistic missiles Iran is known to possess [and BTW, Iran is at satellite launch threshold, which is equivalent to Intercontinental Ballistic Missile technology].

    Worse, these warheads would be just the right size for so-called suitcase nuke suicide terrorism.

    NS you are plainly in blind denial of a major threat that now faces the international community, as Iran’s regime have been allowed to use delay tactics for years as they progressively violated their non proliferation treaty obligations, until they have reached a dangerous threshold.

    Given what we have seen across our TV and computer screens in recent months, as the Iranian rulers cruelly crushed protests against a stolen election, that is utterly foolish. And, the only remaining options are: (i) diplomacy backed by teeth [relatively best case], (ii) failing that surgical strikes and then negotiations to change the situation [a much poorer case], (iii) allowing the rise of a situaitont hat will turn the ongoing global struggle in the face of global conquest Jihadism to run utterly out of control. And that with the example of North Korea already on the table from just a few years ago.

    NS, do you see what you are enabling by your pattern of thought?

    (Or, are you manifesting that Plato’s Cave-like en-darkenment of understanding that Paul warns against in Rom 1 and Eph 4?)

    Surely, you can do a lot better than this, a lot better. Please, think again; with sober judgement. (And I think the issues you need to address start long before we get to issues over Iran etc.)

    Good day

    D


  37. PS: And remember just what anniversary today is, as a sober warning on what potentially happens if we allow the international situation to run out of control. Especially if you walk by the war memorials in B’town or at Harrison College etc.


  38. I take all right white propaganda with a pinch of salt.


  39. PPS: Kiki, do you know what Che Guevara really was, i.e. a multiple murderer, communist subversive and terrorist? [Marxist-Leninist, Stalinist and Maoist Communism account for well over 100 millions dead by the hands of oppressive regimes in the past 100 years, through deliberate starvation, concentration camps, torture, questionable executions of one kind or another, etc, etc. Communism’s record is actually WORSE on this score than Hitler’s.] Guevara’s dream may have been to end poverty [as Hitler’s was to improve the human race!], but his means were murderous and oppressive.


  40. dictionary re: che guevara
    no they were just some sound bites in response to zoe’s anti-left sentiments

    but che did become an iconic symbol
    for posters t-shirts films music and fashion (such as berets + army jackets)


  41. Kiki:

    Labelling what you do not like to hear “propaganda” and dismissing it — what “grain of salt” usually means — is a mark of closed-mindedness, not critical awareness.

    For, though emotional appeals may be persuasive [includingiespecially those that get us to be polarised against those we disagree with], and though your favoured sources may look authoritative to you (and your unfavoured ones may look like you can simply ignore them), in the end it is only the true facts that give the material truth on a matter and the solid logic that draws form facts to conclusions correctly, or the best explanation that is superior to the alternatives [on factual adequacy, coherence and explanatory power], that are well warranted and worthy of trust.

    I suggest you take a look here, here and here as a beginning on critical thinking 101; well, the third is actually a session from an intro to phil course, so it is Critical Thinking 102 . . .

    G’day

    D

    PS: Perhaps, you do not know that my grandmother’s great uncle was kangaroo courted and hanged by a military tribunal of incompetents in St Thomas Jamaica in 1865, for standing up for the poor people of that parish and warning of what was to come: kill the messenger. The responsible governor was hanged in effigy by the Cockneys of London (he got off in the court case — at least, there was a court case . . . ). So, please do not project “white” racism on me. If you look above you will see a very clear statement that we must not jump from the frying pan of western oppression by the great powers of the north, into the fire of Islamist subjugation and dhimmitude. Have you ever paused to read the just linked, by an Egyptian Jewish scholar who writes out of her history? Until you have seriously looked into the matter, kindly refrain from dismissive abuse of the race issue; which only serves to devalue it when we the black people of the world have to address REAL racism. (And BTW, it was Arab and Berber and arabised africans who dominated the slave trade in Africa and sold our kidnapped ancestors to the european traders as a side market to the far older slave trade across the Sahara, Red Sea and Indian Ocean. Indeed, in Saudi Arabia, slavery was officially abolished in 1962, and it continues to be a problem in Mauretania and Sudan to this day. Indeed slavery de jure or de facto is still an issue. Bet you never learned these parts of the story in school or College.)


  42. PPS: It is sad that you seem to think Che deserves to be an icon, in light of the usually forgotten record about his life. (Zoe is probably old enough to know a bit more of the real story of the Cuban revolution and onward attempts to subvert South America than you are likely to, given how the Castro Cuban revolution has been whitewashed [a cheap kind of paint that makes things look superficially pretty] in how it has been presented to younger generations in the Caribbean.) Please, think again.


  43. but why would anyone spout right wing
    white propaganda unless they are right
    wing propagandists, wars and some such
    have caused all the worlds problems imho

    i’m weary and wary of official versions

    btw i’m no che supporter or expert
    i was just playing, sorry


  44. True to form, the psychosis of deranged,unbalanced, *Leftist* as seen here on BU, is strinkingly akin to their brothers/sisters elsewhere; this disorder, disarray, pattern in their dyslogistic mental perception of reality, is exactly what Almighty God declares upon such:

    “Woe to those who call *evil* good, and *good* evil; Who put *darkness* for light, and *light* for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.” (Isa. 5:20).

    “Woe to those who draw (drag emptiness or falsehood) *iniquity* with cords of vanity, And sin as if with a cart of rope.” (Isa. 5:18).

    These *Leftist* attempt to fill the void left by the lack of real human connection with a supposed love for humanity as a whole. The *Leftist* appears to love people from a distance, though he/she hates individuals up close and in particular. The human beings he imagines he loves, meanwhile becomes part of his fantasy community.

    These people whom the *Leftist* thinks he loves from a distance are always the supposed victims of capitalism, and American “imperialism.” The megalomania and narcissism from which most *Leftist* suffer reinforce this dynamic.

    In this way, the *Leftist* keeps his DELUSIONS secure. Yet, because those delusions are founded on the shakiest of ground, the *Leftist* must be extremely rigid in denying basic, commonsense realities ( e.g., communism is evil, al-Qaeda is a terrorist enemy that needs to be fought, and so on, his BELIEF SYSTEM WOULD COLLAPSE ENTIRELY.

    This is precisely why such *Leftist* as witnessed here on BU, identify with Che Guevara.

    “Crazy with FURY, I will stain my rifle red while SLAUGHTERING any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate while SAVORING the acrid odor of gunpowder and BLOOD. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for the sacred flight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl.”

    -Che Guevara, Motocycle Diaries.

    God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness.

    “For the wrath of God IS revealed from heaven AGAINST all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress (deny, reject) the TRUTH in unrighteousness, because what may be KNOWN of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.” (Rom. 1: 18,19).

    “Because, although they knew God, they did NOT glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became *futile* in their thoughts, and their FOOLISH hearts were darkened.” (v.21)

    “Professing to be wise, they became FOOLS.” (v. 22) emphasis added.

    Futile, from verse 21, is from the Greek word, ‘mataioo’ (mat-ah-yah-oh). To make empty, vain, foolish, useless, confused. The word describes the perverted logic and idolatrous presumption of those who do not honor God or show Him any gratitude for His blessings on humanity.

    The denial-excuse-justification syndrome of these *Leftist* is glaringly obvious, right here on BU!


  45. yes i am a fool i was born on april 1st
    just like jesus


  46. Kiki:

    You need to correct some very serious misinformation, and fix some attitudes while you are at it.

    Please.

    D


  47. Zoe:

    You have some correct points, but please tone down.

    Please.

    D


  48. Kiki:

    FYI, neigher of the last two major global power grabs (jointly accounrting for well north of 100 millions dead) were due to “right wing” ideologies.

    Marxism-Leninism and derivatives is of the left, and Nazism is short for “National Socialism,” and indeed it was an ideology of statism (joined to social darwinist – cum Blavastsky style Aryan Man occultic racism [and a few other pathologies] . . . ).

    Statism and associated collectivism of one kind or another — a focus on the mass, the group or the associated identity and story of victimhood — are the key markers for left wing ideologies in our time. Unfortunately, those who most loudly shout about he oppression of others, turn out to be no slouch at oppression themselves, once they grab power. That is the sad tale of the Cuban revolution and Che Guevara.

    (The real right wing of our time is first Libertarian, then anarchistic; royalty having moved off the scene as a serious factor; with Sweden, a socialist state — for instance — being a monarchy! )

    As to the now commonplace myth and conventional wisdom among bright young people in our region, that Capitalism led by dead white men is the root of all evils, let us just say this: poverty and oppression are the rule in history across the world and over time, so they do not need to be explained beyond that we live in a sinful world with fallen men — and women — in control of power.

    What is different is liberation and economic empowerment. And historically, that is connected to the rise of the protestant reformation and its associated liberating forces. That is a and perhaps the key root of modern liberty and democratic self-government by a free people, and of the expulsion of slavery from the list of inevitable universal evils. the associated system of relatively free enterprise and secure ownership of the fruit of one’s labour and ideas is the root of the rise of widespread prosperity through the implications of the economic bargain: we exchange what we are willing to part with to gain what we desire more, so that there is a mutual benefit.

    Multiply that by opportunities to saver and invest, waves of discovery and invention triggered by the same spirit, and we see much of the base for the breakout of prosperity that marked the C19 – 20 which is what has made today’s world utterly different from the world of the past. I should also note that — contrary to the standard plot-line of many evolutionary materialist secular humanist narratives — the scientific transformations that joined the process form about the 1870’s through the effect of chemical industry, steel-making and the rise of electrification, were rooted in a cultural process that traces to the Judaeo-Christian understanding that the world is made by a reasonable and just God, so is both intelligible and moral.

    Beyond that, tagging views one does not like with demonising labels and dismissing, is a major failure of intellectual responsibility.

    D

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