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slaveryImagine a man born in Ethiopia, raised and educated in Puerto Rico presenting slavery as an epithet for Negroid in a three-piece suit. What Irony. He forgot the briefcase and brolly. Dr Yosef Jochannan’s specious disputation is a convenient distortion of reality. Yes slavery (and attendant atrocities) has existed and will continue to exist. However, to present slavery as an epithet for Negroid is an over-characterisation. Negroes were not the first human beings to be enslaved. Slavery is not and never was unique to the Negro. There was white slavery going back to at least Roman times. Later other ethnic groups were also enslaved. The implicit assumption that slaves everywhere endured the same treatment is unsustainable. Today slavery is rampant in Africa, India and elsewhere. He forgot that Africans also sold their brethren into slavery both yesteryear and today

Regarding Africa Cecil Rhodes in keeping with the prevailing sentiment candidly stated that “we (the mother country and other colonists) must find new lands from which we can easily obtain raw materials and at the same time exploit the cheap slave labour that is available from the natives in the colonies…The colonies would also provide a dumping ground for the surplus goods produced in our factories…..” The sentiment was also echoed by Nigerian governor, Lord Lugard and former French president Jules Ferry (Goldsmith, Development & Colonialism) This suggests that the primary purpose was not enslavement/slavery as such but economic progress and ‘development.’ Workers including slaves were consumers just as they are today. Then as now progress was measured by the value of what consumers consume and their contribution.

Also then as now progress and economic development required an ongoing supply of an array of human resources—political, organizational, management and technical. The Cecil Rhodes Foundation and ‘associates’ directly and indirectly contributed substantially to the economic development of much of the world. Africans may not have won Rhodes Scholarships but they benefited substantially in other ways.

Slavery was a consequence of and a permanent feature progress and what we know of as economic development. And it was and is not restricted to Blacks. African commercial interests and politicians in mineral rich Sudan and oil rich Nigeria, like many of today’s international corporations, show little responsibility for their people or accountability beyond verbiage except for their own kind or class.

That Rwandans are still to understand why or what caused them to slaughter one another is a bad joke. Rwanda’s slaughter occurred around the same time as similar atrocities (rape mutilation ethnic cleansing and genocide) occurred and are occurring in Somalia, Congo, Sudan, Ethiopia and Nigeria. In the Congo some of the minerals used to make cell phones and related items are ‘produced’ under atrocious slave conditions by the Congolese. In some African states children are captured by blacks and sold into slavery on coffee and cocoa plantations; others given guns and taught to destroy their own kind Today slavery of yore (hard labour under horrendous conditions etc) appears mild when compared to what Black Africa has experienced and continues to experience at the hands of their own; a holocaust in some cases.

In presenting slavery as an epithet for Negroid Dr. Y uses race and ethnicity interchangeably. But they are not the same thing. Race used collectively refers to a people of different physical characteristics (skin colour). The three major races are said to be Negroid, Caucasoid and Mongoloid. Ethnicity on the other hand relates to a group of people having certain traits (cultural, linguistic, racial, religious etc) in common. Black Indians and Sri Lankans may and do experience discrimination because of their skin colour but are not seen as Negroid. Not all black people identify with Africa per se.

The insinuation that first Jews were black and from Ethiopia is by no means new. It raises the question as to whether Adam and Eve were black or white. No one really knows for sure. A long unexplained gap exists between the “Beginning” and recorded world history. It is misleading to identify Jews purely as a race. That said black and white Jews can be found all over.

It was in Barbados that Jews first became free people (here Bagatelle is important). Nisan, a sugar-boiler with expertise in laying out fields and equipping factories, was one of the four Jews ‘imported’ from Brazil by Colonel Holdip of Locust Hall to upgrade sugar production (Mosheh his brother worked at Drax Hall). Nisan married Annu, the very highly educated daughter of Chief Dosu and lived at Holland Bay. The ‘indigenous’ population is made up in part of whites of Jewish extraction. A large part of the non-white (black and variant shades thereof) is of Jewish and white extraction. Those who think that mixing race/ethnicity is to our detriment should thing again. Our roots are not only black.

Barbados was not discovered in 1619 as Dr. Y suggested. It was an Englishman, not Columbus, who first discovered the island in 1625, and another 2 years went by before settlement began. The early colonist settlers grew cotton, tobacco and indigo for export. In the early 1630s white indentures were imported to serve as bondsmen for 5 years after which they became free and were each given 5 acres of land. John Tatum was among the first indentured group. The year after his indenture ended, an English ship on its way to the island with a cargo of white indentures captured a Portuguese slaver, found 8 Africans and auctioned them in Barbados. They were the first Negroes slaves on the island.

A 1636 ordinance decreed that slaves, local or Indian and their offspring remain slaves for life. This was at a time when they were few black slaves and mostly indentured whites in the 6000 or so population. Three major factors led to the introduction of sugar on the island, 1) soil depletion 2) more expensive and inferior cotton and tobacco compared to Virginia, Carolina and Georgia, 3) declining revenue (sounds familiar).

By 1649 there was much dissent by black slaves then about ½ the 60,000 population over the 1636 ordinance. Hamilcar, a John Tatum slave, and a man reported to be of high intellect, organizational ability and capacity for leadership planned the island’s first rebellion/insurrection. It failed because Naomi, a black house slave, inadvertently let out the secret. As a result Hamilcar and 17 others were hanged. Later Naomi was found with her throat cut by the Tatums. All this at a time when Africans were selling Africans into slavery at home and abroad.


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130 responses to “Slavery: A Somewhat Specious Disputation”


  1. Terence M. Blackett, what are you really offering up when all you do is post about things that happened over 400 yrs. ago?


  2. @Ebenezer…..@2:07 pm. The operative word here is ‘PERHAPS’ yet you conclude on a mere speculation that I do nothing ‘positive’ with my life…whatever your ‘positive’ means. So to your brilliant conclusion I say let’s have a toast and I wish you a MERRY CHRISTMAS!


  3. @ looking glass your piece was an interesting read.

    But it has some flaws, one,yes slavery was accepted pre trans-Atlantic slave trade but slavery at that time was not as cruel as trans Atlantic slavery was

    The word slave took on a new meaning, almost subhuman as it is today.

    Labor must still be done once we are in this society,but no one should be subjected to the conditions that trans Atlantic slaves were . That was why the civil movement fought for universal equal human rights.

    Now every one has the right to labor for the society they chose.


  4. @Ebenezer

    My Jewish family will not allow any of us to forget the holocaust and the lost of 6 million lives…

    Some of us will soon enough want to disregards – far less forget, the African Holocaust inflicted on a people over a period of the 16th, 17th & 18th century…

    The lost of some 20 million lives!!!

    You may want to ignore “HISTORY” in all its forms – both past and contemporary but many of us choose to keep the travesties and evils of that era in the forefront of the debate…

    A people who forget their history and refuses to give it wings are likely to find themselves making the same mistakes in the future…


  5. Really………hhmm I’ll take my own advice now and move on…bye


  6. Terence M. Blackett // September 5, 2009 at 3:40 PM

    Some of us will soon enough want to disregards – far less forget, the African Holocaust inflicted on a people over a period of the 16th, 17th & 18th century…

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    I can’t see anyone forgetting what Historians tell us happened in the 400 years of the transatlantic slave trade or the 6 years of the second world war.

    People have a fascination with the past and rightly so because we are supposed to learn from our past mistakes.

    It seems that although we might and should learn from them, it does not stop us from repeating the mistakes of the past.

    Just as we are witnesses to the horrors of genocide in the Far East, the Balkans and Africa to rival anything that was done to the Jewish people of the world, we are also witnesses to the the continued existence of slavery in all its forms all over the world to rival anything that was done to the African people of the world.

    In both instances, the genocide and slavery, there were people, Jewish and African …. or whoever that could have stopped it if they had raised a collective voice and closed ranks.

    The human frailty these experienes exposed is that so long as it doesn’t affect “me” “I’ll” keep quiet.


  7. Just took a little break to take my children to rejuvenate the melanin within them in order to keep their BLACKNESS real and returned to realise the desperation of Fake Press.

    That proves that despite their removal of the BU link, they are still busy up in BU’s grill. Seems like their site ain’t really got much going on. Why the obsession with BU?

    Its a pity that they pasted that piece by RN, but refused to say that RN is white.

    Fake Press, FYI I don’t give a rat’s ass what you, whitey or black lapdogs think of me. I am solely interested in us, the BLACKS, who are looking to rid this parasitic enslaving system from our backs and return to the glory & spirituality which is still imprinted in our DNA despite what some of your white ‘scientist’ would want to have us believe. I don’t give a damn about anyone else. Each ‘race’ should look out for their own.

    By trying to call BU and some of its posters racists cannot empower you, so regroup and find another strategy.

    If you really want to know what racism is, call up the Tavistock Institute or, the IMF, or the UN, or the World Bank or Planned Parenthood or the Pentagon, or the US judicial system or other major Think Tanks or the Zionists who are literally sucking the life out of those Arabs daily. [Just naming a few of those orgs who specialise in racism]. Yet you don’t have the balls to post anything they’ve done on your site, simply because they don’t ‘look’ like Negroman nor Hopi.
    Now that’s the signature of hypocritical, dishonest cowards.

    When the zionist-nazi kids in israhell wrote their names on bombs and ‘dropped’ them on sleeping Palestinian children, where were you? Did you publish that?

    So if my quest for the upliftment and enlightenment of self-knowledge seeking Blacks is a thorn in your side, or a pain in your ass, believe me, you will soon be crippled because Hopi’s quest will NOT be arrested by your desperation.

    [You can also cut and paste this over there too].


  8. @JOHN

    The human frailty these experiences exposed is that so long as it doesn’t affect “me” “I’ll” keep quiet.

    CORRECT – unfortunately…

    Many turn a blind eye especially within the international community…

    Case in point – the Rwandan Genocide!!!

    BU recently hosted this discussion forum on the demonic travesties of Rwanda – giving blogospheric latitude and integrity to Marcel* who heart-breakingly lost all his children in the holocaust…

    But JOHN* – do you know that there is an interesting anomaly (if not paradox) about the RWANDAN GENOCIDE*?

    Are you aware that no Rwandan MUSLIM* lost his life in the fracas of ethnic cleansing?

    The reason was the opposite of your intonation regarding folks passing on the other side, turning a blind EYE* or taking the position that it is NOT* their business…

    The MUSLIMS* ganged together (HUTU & TUTSI) against the militias and the death squads and were basically left alone – because we all have this inbred stigmatization of Muslims…

    See the below link:- (interesting phenomenon)

    http://hub.witness.org/en/node/12533

    Yes BRUV*, when all is said and done – “WE MUST BE OUR BROTHER’S KEEPER”…

    Blessings…


  9. hopey. i would never undermine a black
    man or woman


  10. and especially a child


  11. Terence M. Blackett // September 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM

    I saw the clip when I was looking at the Rwandan and could only smile at the ways humans get opportunities to help other humans in times of need.

    Thought it was great.

    It would have been so easy to walk away.

    Oscar Schindler comes to mind in the Jewish Holocaust and I saw yesterday that many of the Jewish children a British diplomat got out of Nazi occupied Chechoslovakia to England were reliving the trip.

    It just shows that in the midst of darkness there is always the opportunity to be a light.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/world-war-2/6138441/Sir-Nicholas-Winton-the-British-Schindler-meets-the-Holocaust-survivors-he-helped-save.html

    Part of being human.


  12. @ JOHN

    Interesting how as you noted the “British” Oscar Schindler was able to self-sacrifice for others less fortunate than himself…

    And so at the ripe old age of 90+ he is able to relive the past with such wonderful reminders of how sacrifice pays off massive dividends for all…

    Hey thanks John for the timely admonition – it is the spark of reminder that continues inspiring me to keep my focus on the humanitarian work I do in Africa and especially next month (October) in South Africa where in conjunction with Habitat For Humanity – we will be building houses in one the townships…

    We are truly our brothers keeper..

    Thanks my friend!!!

    God bless…


  13. @Hopi: God, your poor children.


  14. Terence M. Blackett // September 7, 2009 at 7:55 AM

    @ JOHN

    God bless…
    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    …. and God bless you too.


  15. @Ebenezer……..Why are you so disturbed about my children learning of the their ancestral history and the greatness that lies within them, that was passed on via their DNA?

    For too long we were forced to learn about the despicable HIStory of the white man at the expense of our own.

    So for my children, the HIStory of whitey and all others will take a back seat to that their BLACK ancestors . Ours is one of GREATNESS. So great that whitey can’t even duplicate it, even though they’ve tried. Hence they’ve littered us with lies.

    So you see Scrooge, my children are descendants of WEALTH. [not stolen wealth but God-given inheritance- both natural and spiritual].


  16. http://555dubstreet.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/talkin-blues/

    Talkin’ blues (talkin’ blues), talkin’ blues (talkin’ blues):
    Your feet is just too big for your shoes. (shoe-oo-oo-oo-oo)

    Yeah, I’ve been down on the rock for so long, (so long)
    I seem to wear a permanent screw; (screw-oo-oo-oo-oo)
    I’ve been down on the rock for so long, (so long)
    I seem to wear a permanent screw. (screw-oo-oo-oo-oo)
    But-a I – I’m gonna stare in the sun,
    Let the rays shine in my eyes.
    I – I’m a gonna take a just-a one step more
    ‘Cause I feel like bombin’ a church –
    Now – now that you know that the preacher is lyin’.
    So who’s gonna stay at home
    When – when the freedom fighters are fighting?


  17. Terence M. Blackett

    Your post got me strugling man…

    http://bajan.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/three-steps-forward-two-steps-back/#comment-107309

    You have to present the other 80 items that you promised to give… and bring it all together. I losing sleep now..!


  18. @BAFBFP –
    Your post got me struggling man…

    I apologize for any inconvenience caused…

    Pets and kids were harmed in the making of this documentary on life…


  19. @John

    You joking right? Du Bois influenced the Black Power Movement? nah. He was considered a traitor by that time. He was writing for white people??

    Gandhi, an Indian, had more influence on the civil rights movement that Du Bois. People like Malcolm X and Angela Davis spat on Du Bois. That is how I remembered it.

    Sorry, but needed to get back to the right thread.


  20. Ethiopian Kings
    Ooh, yeah..

    King David, he was a black man.
    King Solomon, he was a black man.
    King Moses, he was a black man;
    From Africa, yeah.

    They fight for equal rights,
    And justice for the people.
    They trod through the coast of Africa,
    Showing the light to the people

    http://555dubstreet.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/ethiopian-kings/


  21. Take a look at slavery

    Here are ten passages from the Bible that clearly demonstrate God’s position on slavery:

    Genesis chapter 17, verse 12:

    And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed. He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised.

    In this passage God understands that people buy other people and, quite obviously, is comfortable with the concept. God wants slaves circumcised in the same way as non-slaves.

    Exodus chapter 12 verse 43:

    The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “These are the regulations for the Passover: No foreigner is to eat of it. Any slave you have bought may eat of it after you have circumcised him, but a temporary resident and a hired worker may not eat of it.

    God again shows that he is completely comfortable with the concept of slavery and singles out slaves for special treatment.

    Exodus Chapter 21, verse 1:

    Now these are the ordinances which you shall set before them. When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master’s and he shall go out alone. But if the slave plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’ then his master shall bring him to God, and he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost; and his master shall bore his ear through with an awl; and he shall serve him for life.

    Here God describes how to become a slave for life, and shows that it is completely acceptable to separate slaves from their families. God also shows that he completely endorses the branding of slaves through mutilation.

    Exodus Chapter 21, verse 20:

    If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.

    Not only does God condone slavery, but he is also completely comfortable with the concept of beating your slaves, as long as you don’t kill them.

    Exodus Chapter 21, verse 32:

    If the bull gores a male or female slave, the owner must pay thirty shekels of silver to the master of the slave, and the bull must be stoned.

    Not only does God condone slavery, but here God places a value on slaves — 30 shekels of silver. Note that God is not sophisticated enough to understand the concept of inflation. It is now 3,000 years later, and a gored slave is still worth 30 shekels of silver according to God’s word.

    Leviticus Chapter 22, verse 10:

    No one outside a priest’s family may eat the sacred offering, nor may the guest of a priest or his hired worker eat it. But if a priest buys a slave with money, or if a slave is born in his household, that slave may eat his food.

    Here God shows that the children of slaves are slaves themselves, and that he is completely happy with that concept.

    Leviticus Chapter 25, verse 44:

    Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

    Here God states where you may purchase your slaves, and clearly specifies that slaves are property to be bought, sold and handed down.

    Luke, Chapter 7, verse 2:

    Now a centurion had a slave who was dear to him, who was sick and at the point of death. When he heard of Jesus, he sent to him elders of the Jews, asking him to come and heal his slave. And when they came to Jesus, they besought him earnestly, saying, “He is worthy to have you do this for him, for he loves our nation, and he built us our synagogue.” And Jesus went with them. When he was not far from the house, the centurion sent friends to him, saying to him, “Lord, do not trouble yourself, for I am not worthy to have you come under my roof; therefore I did not presume to come to you. But say the word, and let my servant be healed. For I am a man set under authority, with soldiers under me: and I say to one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and to another, ‘Come,’ and he comes; and to my slave, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.” When Jesus heard this he marveled at him, and turned and said to the multitude that followed him, “I tell you, not even in Israel have I found such faith.” And when those who had been sent returned to the house, they found the slave well.

    Here Jesus shows that he is completely comfortable with the concept of slavery. Jesus heals the slave without any thought of freeing the slave or admonishing the slave’s owner.

    Colossians, chapter 3, verse 22:

    Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in singleness of heart, fearing the Lord. Whatever your task, work heartily…

    Here God shows that he is in complete acceptance of a slave’s position, and encourages slaves to work hard. This sentiment is repeated in Titus, chapter 2 verse 9:

    Bid slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to be refractory, nor to pilfer, but to show entire and true fidelity.

    Once again God shows that he is quite enamored of slavery.


  22. @Leprechaun…you neglected to note that the God of which you speak is the white man’s God. Not the BLACK man’s God. So obviously ‘it’ will ‘bless’ the money grubbers with other peoples history and their wealth. Just like ‘it’ is blessing them to pillage Palestine, like they did Canaan and to decimate the world’s economic activity to the point now, where most are on their knees before these enslavers.

    And self-knowledge-seeking Black people are not enamored with, neither do they respect that ‘God’


  23. @Leprechaun

    Do you actually believe what you are claiming? Or is this your form of hermeneutical sensualisation?

    I know God (The Creator) and His Son Jesus (The Christ) usually gets a bad rap but this is seriously laughable…

    Marcus Garvey was right – No wonder some folks need to go to the opticians!!!


  24. When thinking about slavery we tend to have in mind the recent slavery of the Black race in the Diaspora, and so the whole subject of slavery gets mixed up with the issue of Racism.

    But in ancient times, slavery was not associated with any particular race. By condoning slavery the Bible does not approve of racism.

    The starting point is usually Noah’s pronouncement on his son Ham’s descendants.

    But why would Noah curse his son with what was clearly a historical remnant of the past Flood?

    For Adam’s race clearly knew what slavery and savagery was – because every imagination of men’s heart was only evil continually according to the Bible.

    If Ham’s descendants were to be slaves – whose descendants were in Egypt for 400 years before the exodus?

    Are the true Israelites Black folks?

    How do we explain the primordial anthropology of the human race transmogrifying from the 3 sons of NOAH?

    The confusion in the Bible over Slavery & Race is an oxymoron…

    Slavery was never dependent on color or ethnicity but on a multiple of social factors.

    Race relations showed up when Moses marries a Black woman and his sister Miriam and others try to create rivalry and the matter is dealt with in a very stark way.

    When God gave the law to Moses, slavery was a part of the world, and so the law of God recognized slavery.

    But this does not mean that slavery was God’s original intention.

    People of our generation, Christians included, tend to have a very hard time with this, and because it seems to amount to a tacit approval of the institution, and we balk at the idea that God did not consider the institution itself to be immoral.

    “The historical reality was less dramatic. In most cases the life of a slave was not much different from the life of any lower-class worker (dallits in India). Those who have been in the military have experienced something like it — being legally bound to an employer and to a job that one cannot simply “quit” at will, not free to leave without permission, subject to discipline if one disobeys or is grossly negligent — all of this is familiar enough to those of us who have served in the military armed services. And yet we know that the daily life of a good soldier is not especially hard. This is what it was like to be a slave”. (Michael Marlowe 2003)

    “Morality in the Bible is set forth as a personal matter, not a political matter, and it is certainly not based upon any idea that all people are of equal worth in God’s eyes.

    Salvation in the Bible is no “equal opportunity” proposition either.

    As for the political and social order, the Bible does not direct us to anything beyond the hierarchical principles of order which pertained to the ancient world of kings and patriarchs, promising only that in due time a righteous Kingdom will come.

    This must be understood by anyone who wants to get a clear idea of what the Bible is all about.

    A sensible and honest reading (for those who are intellectually HONEST*) of the Bible cannot be possible for those who would read into it the politicized egalitarian morality of our age.

    Even the most cherished idea of modern civil philosophy — that “all men are created equal,” and “endowed with certain inalienable rights,” as the American Declaration of Independence puts it (a Lockean ideal, not even realised) — must be left behind by the student who would fully enter into the world of the Bible”. (ibid)

    The Bible Explains Different Types of Slavery & Those Permitted by Scripture…

    The Mosaic law permitted some types of slavery. These include:

    1.Voluntary servitude by the sons of Israel (indentured servants)
    Those who needed assistance, could not pay their debts, or needed protection from another were allowed under Biblical law to become indentured servants (see Ex. 21:2-6; Deut. 15:12-18).
    2.Voluntary permanent slaves –
    If indentured servants so chose, they could remain a slave (Ex. 21:2-6; Deut.. 15:16-17). Their ear was pierced to indicate this permanent subjection.
    3.Thief or criminal making restitution –
    A thief who could not, or did not, make restitution was sold as a slave: “If a man steals . . . he shall surely make restitution; if he owns nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft” (Ex. 22:1,3).
    4. Pagans could be permanent slaves
    Leviticus 25:44-46 states: As for your male and female slaves whom you may have – you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you….
    5. Involuntary Servitude is Not Biblical-
    Exodus 21:16 says: “He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death.” Deuteronomy 24:7 states: “If a man is caught kidnapping any of his countrymen of the sons of Israel, and he deals with him violently, or sells him, then that thief shall die; so you shall purge the evil from among you.”
    6. Kidnapping and enforced slavery are forbidden and punishable by death. This was true for any man (Ex. 21:16), as well as for the Israelites (Deut. 24:7). This was stealing a man’s freedom.

    So for those whose need a NEW* pair of spectacles in order to read clearly what Scripture says – can do what the WORD* says – “If any man lack WISDOM*, let him ask of God who gives it liberally to all men”…

    You see – the first thing God in all the Universe was “WISDOM”….

    Just ask for it!!!


  25. @ Leprecaun:

    None of us enlightened black folk will give two cents for that book of Jewish myths, legends and fairy tales. We want nothing to do with the cruel sadistic Hebrew god.


  26. ROK

    Guess you didn’t pay much attention to the guy who had these words to say about du Bois.

    “history cannot ignore W.E.B. DuBois because history has to reflect truth and Dr. DuBois was a tireless explorer and a gifted discoverer of social truths. His singular greatness lay in his quest for truth about his own people. There were very few scholars who concerned themselves with honest study of the black man and he sought to fill this immense void. The degree to which he succeeded disclosed the great dimensions of the man.”

    and ….

    W. E. B. (William Edward Burghardt) Du Bois “recognized that the keystone in the arch of oppression was the myth of inferiority and he dedicated his brilliant talents to demolish it,”

    I’ll give you a clue …… his initials are MLK …… jr.


  27. … I think I am beginning to understand you a bit better as your position on William du Bois and Marcus Garvey becomes clearer.


  28. @John

    Martin Luther was not extremely radical; rather conservative in most that he did. Did I mention MLK? I think not. However, you cannot deny that the strategy of the civil rights movement was based on the philosophy of Gandhi and anything Du Bois had to say remained in the background.

    Not many, if any, of the black power leaders had much to say about Du Bois and those I heard considered him a traitor in a sense. In other words, DU Bois was not a good example of a true black image or vision. he had a way of attacking dynamic leaders and attracting unkind words to himself.

    For example, what was his take on the Black Panthers?


  29. Don’t think he had a take on the Black Panthers as he died 3 years before they were formed in 1966 at 95.

    The question should really be what was the Black Panther’s take on du Bois?

    Instinct would tell me his work had a significant impact on the evolution of the thinking and philosophy of the Black Panthers, but I was a boy in those days and have not really studied the period of the 1960’s and 70’s.

    A thinker and writer, and he was one with over 4000 publications, will always have a long term effect on events, even after he/she dies.


  30. I formed the impression of the Black Panthers over time that they only existed for a moment and faded away because of actions of the FBI and internal divisions on philosophy ….

    …. maybe like the difference in philosophy between Garvey and Du Bois,

    ….. Garvey advocating separation and return to Africa, Du Bois advocating integration into society and racial equality,

    …… and that is putting it simply, perhaps too simply.

    Du Bois ended up in Africa, where he died,

    ….. Garvey never reached ….. life is strange.

    Rosa Parks was 1955, the Black Panthers were more than a decade later, 1966. Things changed radically in America after the assasination of JFK in 1963 and the society became far more accepting of violence.

    That whole period of change, say from the 50’s to the early 1970’s had a huge impact on persons growing up in it

    ….. and if you think for a moment, the movers and shakers that would have set this period up would have been products of WWII.

    Nowadays you wonder at how docile people have become …

    ….and how lacking in internal conviction for a just cause.

    The world seems to have become more complicated since then and people struggle just to survive.

    Still, be thankful no world wars,

    ….. but we never seem able to shake our fascination with war and its practice ….

    ….. and no, I have not given up on people.


  31. @JOHN
    “Nowadays you wonder at how docile people have become …and how lacking in internal conviction for a just cause…”

    POWERFUL THOUGHTS MY BROTHER***


  32. I cannot believe that some-one with knowledge can praise Cecil Rhodes(the great satan) in a topic about slavery. He is praised as being responsible for much of the econmic development of the world. This person must be an adept in his school of thought . If rape is a prerequisite of economic development, then what have we developed into?. Cecil Rhodes was the snake in the garden who help construct the present day system of bondage. Let’s measure this statement by looking at the product in Africa today. What are you trying to impress on people? that we were responsible for our enslavement? You make the blood of our ancestors a small matter, and use the word joke in the same line as the rwanda atrocities, but you do not mention the gallons of blood in the NUMBERS OF PEOPLE. SIMPLY DISMISSED IN THE NAME OF DEVELOPMENT. Barbadians don’t let your views be narrow minded and focus on self hate. How could Barbados have been discoverd by an Englishman? If I understand correctly the arawaks were here first and Barbados is a Portugeuse word. They were the first pirates here. As for the arawak I have seen some of their artifacts in Indian Ground,Springhead,Rockhall, my playground as a boy.


  33. Ghandi was a racist and had no wisdom. Suicide by submitting to the opressors will is a product of the insane mind. Putting your self at risk of death, depending on the opressors mercy for life is ignorance. Men of god do not have such retarded mental capacity. Using a method of resistance that is doomed to failure, made popular by a sick man, propaganda agent, is sheer stupidity. All those who use this form of non resistance, are on the path of deception and destruction.


  34. If the Bible is written by God, and these are the words of the Lord, then you can come to only one possible conclusion: God is an impressive advocate of slavery and is fully supportive of the concept.

    As you can see, these slavery passages present us with an immense contradiction:

    * On the one hand, we all know that slavery is an outrage and a moral abomination. As a result, slavery is now completely illegal throughout the developed world.

    * On the other hand, most Christians claim that the Bible came from God. In God’s Word, the “creator of the universe” states that slavery is perfectly acceptable. Beating your slaves is fine. Enslaving children is fine. Separating slave families is fine. According to the Bible, we should all be practicing slavery today.

    The intensity of this contradiction is remarkable. It shows us quite clearly that God is imaginary.

    If God were to exist, and if he were playing any role whatsoever on our planet, he would eliminate this connection between himself and slavery. There is no way that a loving God would allow himself to be perceived as condoning and encouraging slavery like this.

    Here is the thing that I would like to help you understand: You, as a rational human being, know that slavery is wrong. You know it. That is why every single developed nation in the world has made slavery completely illegal. Human beings make slavery illegal, in direct defiance of God’s word, because we all know with complete certainty that slavery is an abomination.

    What does your common sense now tell you about a Bible that supports slavery in both the Old and the New Testaments? Given the fact that the Bible clearly condones slavery, your common sense should be telling you that God is imaginary.


  35. @Leprechaun

    “Given the fact that the Bible clearly condones slavery, your common sense should be telling you that God is imaginary.”

    I can agree with you except your conclusion that god is imaginary. No fella, you not going to get off that easy.

    To say that God is imaginary is to discredit the Incas who were made to build shoots so that the chariots f the Gods could land and take off.

    To say that God is imaginary is to deny the Egyptian accounts of the Gods and especially the war they had in “the heavens”. Even the biblical account speaks of god throwing satan out of heaven (gods at war).

    To say that god is imaginary is to blindly refuse to see the drawings of ancient air crafts which were formerly though to be extinct insects.

    To say that there is no god is to deny the existence of the illuminati

    No! No! No! God exist. Just like the money and the white man we worship as god is no god; so is god not the Creator and is as mortal and physical as the white man.

    Think about it. The god that coming back for this world has promised destruction and the wiping out of more than half the earths population. A time when there will be pain, suffering and death. Tell me, is this not the same character that sanctions slavery? How is that out of character?

    On this earth, the white God decides your fate. He dictates what you eat. He heals and yet he causes destruction beyond repair. He tortures, bombs his own, kill others for their natural resources and wages war where ever he goes. His mission is domination of the earth and who don’t go along with it dies.

    How is the character any different? It’s just the way gods behave. We just need to understand who is god.

    The Creator makes no claims whatsoever and does not have to. The Creator being the Creator of all things simply creates and those who do not follow the laws of Creation and disrespects the laws so as to upset the balance of nature, ultimately pays a natural price.


  36. While we are here struggling to to address the legacy of slavery and made to feel that we are doing something wrong, it is interesting to note that Europeans don’t think it is anything wrong as they struggle with post cold war issues that are affecting them today.

    I got this circular from an international organisation called Article 19:

    Event: ARTICLE 19 Round-table on Russian Memory Law, 21st September

    ARTICLE 19 is organising a round-table discussion on the increasing trend within Russia to censor free expression regarding history, including the Stalinist repressions, World War II, KGB activities, amongst others. This is particularly exemplified by the recent draft law on ‘Opposing the Rehabilitation of Nazism, Nazi Criminals and Their Accomplices on the Territory of the Independent States, Former Republics of the Soviet Union’ – or the so called “Memory Law”.

    The panel will include Orlando Figes, award-winning historian and writer, and author of The Whisperers: Private Life in Stalin’s Russia (2007) and People’s Tragedy: The Russian Revolution 1891-1924 (1996). Boyko Boev, ARTICLE 19 legal officer, will present his findings on the draft bill.

    The discussion will particularly focus on the May 2009 establishment of the ‘Presidential Commission for Counteracting Attempts to Falsify History to the Detriment of Russia’s Interests’, known as the “Historical Truth Commission”. One of the Commission’s members is Konstantin Zatulin, the Duma’s deputy chairman and a member of ruling United Russia Party, who was also assigned the task of leading the working group on the proposed draft “Memory Law” six months earlier.

    The Historical Truth Commission is headed by Sergei Naryshkin, Head of the Presidential Administration, who was also appointed as chair of the ‘Presidential Commission on State Secrets’ in December 2008, a body that decides as to which documents contain state secrets and therefore should be held under restricted access.

    At the round-table, these recent initiatives will be viewed in the context of the inaccessibility of Soviet archives, and the illegal confiscation of the databases containing details of victims of Stalinist repressions from the offices of the human rights organisation Memorial.

    The discussion will take place in the Free Word Centre at 60 Farringdon Road on Monday, 21 September from 14:30 to 16:30.


  37. hi


  38. looking glass is a racist fruad. Columbus & other Europeans exterminated millions of indigenous Indians. The Pope ordered , sanctioned ,blessed & cashed in on the enslavement of Africans.There is no incident in history that compares to the psycopathic killing spree carried out by European on Africans.
    The Europeans robbed us of our culture & forced the fake religion of christianity on us. Jesus never existed at any time anywhere on earth, he is a fictional chacter created by the whites.

  39. My Story Your Story Then The TRUTH Avatar
    My Story Your Story Then The TRUTH

    I love all websites that allows coments and keep and open mind to facts that have not been disclosed in your research. Translated fundamentle grass of this universe but in all actuallity having a spiritual transliteration of the universe is wisdom which is the fear of God. We are one universe wether the inhabitants of this planet knows or not. Thank God for people like Dr Ben and Lindon Larouche forgive me if I spelled a name wrong. I reseached the history and have had several interviews with ruffugies from wars in their lands. As long we remember that slavery is brutal and violent and has no place in this one nation under this only one true living God we are unified in righteousness and truth which is honorable and noble before God. So then our true patriortism is to the land where God gave us as an inheritance. Every one of us born in this generation has a responsibility to remember judgement and justice. Only the universe as one may raise their own concience level to a higher concienceousness. We are sure of this by the nature of our maker. I remember a song in the book of plams of David #82 “He who is who he is stand in the congregation of the mighty; he judge among the gods. How long will you judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Se’lah.
    Defend the poor and fatherless; do justice to the afflicted and needy.
    Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
    They know not neither do they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
    I have said, You ares gods; and all of you are children of the Most High. But you shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. Arise O he, who is, who he is judge the earth: for you shalt in herit all nations.” I transliterated the song into plain english grammar so that one in this universe could see that they are one with the universe. To make it simple its’ like taking what you do know and making it your yen and taking something you don’t know and making it your yang. Most in this universe don’t know that yen and yang together as a symbol has a hidden piece of wisdom that begins it’s introduction in the universe a breath of fresh air. Knowing that yen and yang together in this symbol represents to things that are very different but comes together to make somthing good. Those that are opposed to speaking out for the poor and needy and asking for justice for the oppresed of every nation will be eaten up by the hands of time but the next generation will know that one time in the universe our ancestors was on the same page with God in truth and equity. Most of what I’m writting is transliterated truths but its’ just my story your story then the truth.


  40. the truth is those who control the wealth controls the people . IS this racist or what?


  41. this waz horrible…didnt deserve it


  42. Slavery: how the Church of England treated its slaves.
    Article Excerpt
    Early this year when the Church of England formally apologised for its part in the slave trade, many did not know what exactly the Church had done during that despicable era. Now we know, thanks to the meticulous research by Adam Hochschild. “The Caribbean was a slaughterhouse,” he informs us. This extract is from his book, Bury the Chains–The British Struggle to Abolish Slavery, recently issued in paperback.

    The island of Barbados was one of the earliest British colonies in the Caribbean and the first to grow sugar. Its plantations pioneered various techniques soon applied elsewhere. We have a detailed picture of slave life there because Barbados, as it happens, was home to an estate that left unusually abundant records, the seaside Codrington plantation.

    At Codrington, as throughout the Caribbean, new slaves from Africa were first “seasoned” for three years, receiving extra food and light work assignments. Slaves were vulnerable during this early traumatic period, when they were most liable to die of disease, to run away, or to commit suicide.

    The ordeal of the Middle Passage, plus the shock of adjusting to new lives, foods and diseases, was so great that roughly one-third of Africans died within three years of disembarking in the West Indies. This merely increased the demand for slaves. If you survived those three years, you were regarded as ready for the hardest labour.

    Almost all the skilled jobs done by the slaves, like maintaining mill equipment, building sugar barrels, or doing masonry, went to men. This meant that–contrary to the picture in most Britons’ minds, then and now–the majority of the slaves in the fields of plantations like Codrington were women. The fact that women did the hardest labour, combined with their abysmal diet, delayed menarche and brought an end to a slave woman’s fertility by her mid-30s. In the mid-18th century British West Indies, half of all women sugar slaves were barren.

    A planter described one incident in Barbados. “Two negro women, being

    chained together by way of punishment for some offence, were employed … in a windmill, one of them unfortunately reaching too near the rollers, her fingers were caught between them, and her body were thrown through the mill. The iron chain, being seized by the rollers, was likewise drawn through, and the other female negro was dragged so close to the cylinders that her head was severed from her body.” Discipline was draconian. For a Barbados slave, running away for 30 days or more meant death. An owner who killed a slave, however, was subject only to a [pounds sterling]15 fine. Nonetheless, attempts to flee were so common that one expense line in the plantation’s annual budget included “rewards for return of runaway slaves”. Codrington paid half a dozen such rewards each year, often in the form of a gallon of rum. A woman field hand named Quashebah ran away five times between 1775 and 1784. On some plantations, a long blast on a conch shell was the alarm that signalled a runaway. As in similar systems the world over, a small number of whites could dominate a far larger number of slaves by enlisting slaves to help them. For nearly a decade, Codrington officials tried to reduce escapes by branding all slaves on their chests. In the end, though the chief deterrJust a few days’ sail away, for instance, authorities on Antigua discovered in 1736 that slaves were plotting to plant gunpowder at the site of a grand ball “to blow up all the gentry of the island while they were in the height of their mirth”, following which groups of slaves “were to enter the town at different parts and to put all the white people there to the sword”. Once the plot was uncovered, 77 slaves were burned to death.

    The life of even the most obedient Codrington slave was likely to be short. Careful clerks recorded slave deaths each year, on the same list with those of cattle, hogs and horses. Causes included “ulcers”, “suddenly”, “a flux”, “shot by accident”, “a fever”, “plague”, “debilitated”, “convulsed”, “leprosy”. In 1743, “three negro men, Anning, Yeaboy and Brumiah were suffocated to death by the steam of a receiving cistern in the distill house.”

    Caribbean slavery, was, by every measure, far more deadly than slavery in the American South. This was not because Southern managers were the kind and gentle ones of Gone With the Wind, but because cultivating sugar cane by hand was–and still is–one of the hardest ways of life on earth. Almost everywhere in the Americas where slaves were working other than on sugar plantations, they lived longer.

    Because of the early deaths from disease and the extraordinarily low birth-rate, Caribbean masters depended, far more so than planters in the American South, on a constant flow of new slaves. Without this influx of fresh human cargoes, the slave population of the West Indies would have fallen by as much as 3% a year.

    For most of the 1700s, Codrington’s managers regularly bought up to 30 slaves a year off ships arriving from Africa. Plantation owners generally felt, as the saying went, that it was cheaper to buy than to breed. An Antigua planter who bought some slaves from John Newton [the British slave captain who later “repented” and wrote many hymns, including Amazing Grace] told him that his policy was “with little relaxation, hard fare, and hard usage, to wear them out before they became useless, and unable to do service; and then, to buy new ones, to fill up their places”.

    One final set of grim numbers underlines the way slaves on sugar plantations like Codrington were systematically worked to an early death. When slavery ended in the United States, less than half a million slaves imported over the centuries left a surviving slave population of nearly four million. When slavery ended in the British West Indies, total slave imports of well over two million left a surviving slave population of about 670,000. More than twice as many slaves were shipped to the island of Jamaica alone than to all 13 North American colonies, later states, combined. The Caribbean was a slaughterhouse.

    Codrington’s richly detailed records not only portray how a West Indian plantation operated, they also show how the benefits of slavery were enjoyed by the highest reaches of British society–and therefore how difficult it would be to uproot. For the absentee owner for whom all these careful accounts were prepared was not a person, and it was not a family. It was the Church of England.

    Specifically, it was the church’s missionary arm, the Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts, whose governing board included the Regius Professors of Divinity…

    ent was the lash, plus, at times, the iron collar and a straitjacket.


  43. sorry for the error ,see the correction below.

    Slavery: how the Church of England treated its slaves.

    Discipline was draconian. For a Barbados slave, running away for 30 days or more meant death. An owner who killed a slave, however, was subject only to a [pounds sterling]15 fine. Nonetheless, attempts to flee were so common that one expense line in the plantation’s annual budget included “rewards for return of runaway slaves”. Codrington paid half a dozen such rewards each year, often in the form of a gallon of rum. A woman field hand named Quashebah ran away five times between 1775 and 1784. On some plantations, a long blast on a conch shell was the alarm that signalled a runaway. As in similar systems the world over, a small number of whites could dominate a far larger number of slaves by enlisting slaves to help them. For nearly a decade, Codrington officials tried to reduce escapes by branding all slaves on their chests. In the end, though the chief deterrent was the lash, plus, at times, the iron collar and a straitjacket.

    Just a few days’ sail away, for instance, authorities on Antigua discovered in 1736 that slaves were plotting to plant gunpowder at the site of a grand ball “to blow up all the gentry of the island while they were in the height of their mirth”, following which groups of slaves “were to enter the town at different parts and to put all the white people there to the sword”. Once the plot was uncovered, 77 slaves were burned to death.


  44. alligator bait
    Wed 11 Aug 2010 by abagond

    Alligator bait, also known as gator bait, is the practice of using little black children as bait to catch alligators. Some say it was done by white men during slave times in Florida and Louisiana and other parts of the American South.
    Here is the most complete account of how it was done, coming from the grandson of someone who says he used to do it:

    … the slaves who had babies they would steal the babies during the course of the day, some times when their mothers weren’t watching . … some would be infants, some would be a year old, he said some would be toddlers, he said they would grab these children and take them down to the swamp, and leave them in pens like little chicken coops.

    They would go down there at night, take these babies and …. tie them up, put a rope around their neck and around their torso, around here, and tie it tight.

    … they’d be screaming. … what they were doing would help them to chum the water. He said when they would throw the babies in tied to this rope, he said in a matter of minutes, he said, the alligator were on them. He said the alligator would clamp his jaws on that child, as a matter of fact once he clamped on them he was really swallowed, he said you couldn’t see anything but the rope!

    c.1960s Postcard: “Free Lunch In The Florida Everglades”

    “Have you met the Florida gator?
    He is the champion negro hater.
    Although he finds many things to eat
    His favorite morsel is negro meat.”


  45. LYNCHING OF MARY TURNER
    Mary Turner (died 1918) was an African-American victim of lynching in Valdosta, Georgia.

    In May, 1918, 31-year old white plantation owner Hampton Smith, known to abuse and beat his workers, was shot and killed by one of his black workers on the plantation, 19-year old Sydney Johnson. After a few days on the plantation, Johnson had been beaten by Smith for not working while he was sick.[1]

    A week-long mob-driven manhunt soon ensued, in which at least 13 people were killed; amongst those killed was another black man, Hayes Turner. Distraught, his eight-month pregnant wife Mary publicly opposed her husband’s murder and threatened to have members of the mob arrested. This caused the mob to turn against her.[1] She was taken from her home by a mob of several hundred, had her ankles tied, was hung upside down from a tree, doused in gasoline and motor oil and set on fire.[2]

    While still alive, a member of the mob split her abdomen open with a knife, and the unborn child fell to ground, where it was repeatedly stomped on and crushed. Finally, Turner’s body was riddled with bullets.[3] After the incident, the Associated Press wrote that Mary Turner had made unwise remarks about the execution of her husband.[4]
    source: Wikipedia.

    In May of 1918, Hampton Smith, a 31 year old White plantation owner in Brooks County, Georgia, was shot and killed by one of his Black workers named Sydney Johnson. Hampton Smith was known for abusing and beating his workers to the point few people in the area would work for him. To solve this labor shortage, Smith turned to the debt peonage system of the day and found a ready labor pool. He used that system by bailing people out of jail, people typically arrested for petty offenses, who would then work off their debt to him on his plantation. Nineteen year old Sydney Johnson, arrested for “rolling dice” and fined thirty dollars, was one such person.

    After a few days of work on Smith’s plantation, and shortly after being beaten by Smith for not working while he was sick, Sidney Johnson shot and killed Hampton Smith. What ensued after the shooting was a mob driven manhunt for Johnson and others thought to be involved in his decision to kill Hampton Smith. That manhunt lasted for more than a week and resulted in the deaths of at least 13 people, with some historical accounts suggesting a higher number of persons killed. One of the people killed was a woman named Mary Turner.

    Twenty year-old Mary Turner, 8 months pregnant at the time and whose husband had been killed in this “lynching rampage” on Sunday, May 19th, made the mistake of publicly objecting to her husband’s murder. She also had the audacity to threaten to swear out warrants for those responsible. Those “unwise remarks,” as the area papers put it, enraged locals. Consequently, Mary Turner fled for her life only to be caught and taken to a place called Folsom’s Bridge on the Brooks and Lowndes Counties’ shared border. To punish her, at Folsom’s Bridge the mob tied Mary Turner by her ankles, hung her upside down from a tree, poured gasoline on her and burned off her clothes. One member of the mob then cut her stomach open and her unborn child dropped to the ground where it was reportedly stomped on and crushed. Her body was then riddled with gunfire from the mob. Later that night she and her baby were buried ten feet away from where they were murdered. The makeshift grave was marked with only a “whiskey bottle” with a “cigar” stuffed in its neck.

    Three days after the murder of Mary Turner and her baby, three more bodies were found in the area and Sydney Johnson was killed in a shoot out with police on South Troup Street in Valdosta, Georgia. Once killed, the crowd of more than 700 people cut off his genitals and threw them into the street. A rope was then tied to his neck and he was drug to Campground Church in Morven, Georgia, 16 miles away. There, what remained of his body was burned. During and shortly after this chain of events, it is reported that more than 500 people fled Lowndes and Brooks Counties in fear for their lives.

    Some may ask, why bring up “the past” and these atrocities now? “It happened so long ago.” We think we should bring them up and face them for many reasons. We should bring them up to acknowledge the lives lost, along with the reality that no justice has ever occurred for the victims, families and many others affected by these events. We should bring them up because few in the region speak publicly about these events yet wonder why race relations in the area are often so strained. We should bring them up because to date these events remain one of the most gruesome cases of racism and racial terrorism in this nation’s history, yet they are omitted from the history we teach our children. We should bring them up because Mary Turner’s murder remains one of the most horrific crimes committed against a human being in this nation’s history. We should bring them up because so far not one historical marker or grave stone is in place to acknowledge these events and the lives lost during that week of terror in May of 1918. And last but not least, we should bring these events up so we can face our collective past in order to see how it might affect our collective present and future. Please help us do that.

    The above information is drawn from the following scholarly and historical sources.
    Dr. Christopher Myers’s article “Killing Them by the Wholesale: A Lynching Rampage in South Georgia” pgs. 214-235 in Georgia Historical Quarterly. Vol. XC. No. 2. Summer 2006.

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