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rastaprofilingMy attention was drawn to an article in the Nation News by Yvette Best 5-27-2009 in which she reported that Ras Kudos Sage had said “Rasta profiling in Barbados should stop”…he further asserted…”they – Rastafari – are constantly being persecuted by the way we practice our worship and for the very things that define us Rastafari.”

The writer did not state a position but honestly reported the facts as she understood the opinions of Ras Kudos Sage.  I will assume that Ras Kudos Sage has gathered information from his brothers and has personal experiences to justify that statement.  His plea was also addressed to other faiths from whom he sought support.

Should we advance his entreaty by asking:

(1) Is profiling of Rastafari in Barbados a reality? – If it is.

(2) Who is doing the profiling?

(a) The general population.

(b) The police.

(c) Employers

(3) What effect has this perceived profiling on the Rastafarian community?

(d) How can they assist in its prevention.

(4) Is this possible.

If we accept that Rasta profiling is occurring in the general population, there must be reasons, are those reasons justified?  If they are not, what can Rastafarians do to allay any perceived fears in the general population. The police interact with the Rastafarian community, as they naturally do with other sections of society, what are their experiences of those interactions?

Employers will always employ those who are of benefit to their enterprise, in terms of company image and profitable return for their monetary investment. What does Rasta profiling do to the self-image of the Rastafarian community? Do they interact with others expecting a negative reaction and are therefore aggressive…a self-fulfilling prophesy.

It is sometimes helpful to ask, not only what can a society do for us but what can we do for society.  At times there is such a dichotomy between what society requests of us and what it is reasonable to deliver, that there is an unbridgeable gap.  It is then we realize there are opposing forces at work but it has not got to be this way.  It is only when we speak to each other we understand each other’s thinking, for this has proven to be the best way of solving perceived problems.

I have not ventured on the issues surrounding the death of l’Akobi Tacuma Maloney out of respect for his family and friends.  I have always taken that position from the inception and I will not deviate now, as it surely will not address this “current” perceived problem…others will disagree, I respect that.


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  1. Christianity is defined as the flowing of Jesus Christ, Logic would bring you to the point the Jesus could not have been a Christan, as following him self would be a difficult. I fact he was a Jew therefore we should be Jews.

    Rasta has no set rules or laws that i know of. Rastafarian is a way of life, that would lead one to grow locks, those locks must mean something? but what?

    I dont know as yet but as a religion Rasta is not based in money, the root of all evil, one thing we know God himself did not make.

    However Rasta is associated with marijuana which was once a driving force of the worlds economy but now is regarded as a nucence, And police hate marijuana so to say profiling against marijuana users is not prevalent in Barbados would be a lie, weed is against the law.

    But not every one that has locks use weed neither does all police abide by the law they enforce.

    Rasta is a predominantly black religion in a predominantly black society

    I think we should learn to accept our own and nurture, love and guide………not try to stomp out all we see as a threat because Rasta is here to stay.


  2. The stigma was popular years ago but over time the public has come to accept the rasta culture. However, everyone that grows locks is not a rasta, some do it just for style.Also there are some resta who resist the law by smoking marijuana openly and proclaim it is their right. This more so than ever, is the cause of the slight profiling that still exist not only in Barbados but many other nations. We have some very prominent people in society here in Barbados that are rastas and they are respected persons


  3. Dear David you wrote “If we accept that Rasta profiling is occurring in the general population, there must be reasons”

    But surely David you do understand that people are frequently UNREASONABLE.


  4. J …..
    u r such an ass !!!


  5. I was n’t aware that Barbados was duty-bound to accept Rastas or Rastafarianism. If I’m mistaken then somebody please correct me and, if so, who says that we absolutely, must do, and is he/she/they our owner!! Is Barbados no longer a soverign nation capable of making its own laws and determining its own future!

    Dave, I object to Technician describing ‘J’ as an ass, so early in the debate, simply because he disagrees with him!! He could, at least, offer his reasons for disagreeing with ‘J’, before comdemning him! Tech needs a kick up his backside!! It’s no wonder we should reject rastas and all which goes with it!!


  6. As is the case with ALL groups in ANY society we will have extreme elements/behaviour which should not be used to profile the whole group. The fact that rastafari generally project themselves as ‘different’, have roots in Africa and use certain illegal substances for religious reasons all combine to alienate them from mainstream society and assist in profiling.

    The rastafari is fighting for justice, they have a responsibility to ensure they do it within the structures society provides.

    Rastafari are human beings with same rights as any.

  7. mash up & buy back Avatar
    mash up & buy back

    mash up & buy back supports the rastafarian brethren fully.

    I believe that they get less respect than persons who come here and foreparents have contributed nothing to our society like the chineese,syrians/lebanese,indians etc.

    Rastas are a product of our society and among them you can find some of the most kind hearted persons.

    However they need to project a better public image of that group and they need to insist that members of the group adhere to certain basics,getting a good education,investing their money in worthwhile projects and a simple thing as good hygine so that when you interact with the public that is one barrier you knock down before you start.


  8. David, u really have to decide whether ur for or against!! This swaying back and forth is unseemly. Please make up your mind! I know it in easy!! However, try a little harder not to sit on the fence!!

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    Rastas are a product of our society

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    ‘mash up’, way u get dat nonsense from!! Perhaps, uv only lived in Bim for 2 years, but, I can assure you, they’re a product of JAMAICAN society, like so much else, both good and bad, but a product which we’re not interested in embracing!! Thanks very much!!


  9. I think that anyone who has an issue with Rasta profiling should go down to their local Police Station and ask to see their photos of criminals (the ones you look through to see if you recognize someone who may have committed a crime against you). The majority of the pictures are men with locks (even if they are not “true” Rastas).

    So what do you expect of the police when confronting people with locks in any situation?


  10. I wonder how many of the idiots who will post here actually know a Rastafari.
    Maybe it would be good to meet a true one first and get to know them before commenting.
    People like 199 will always derail this discussion because of his bigotry.
    Someone wrote about hygiene lol…there is a guy and a lady at work, who are regular people that smell like grass at 8 am. Do not confuse dreadlock wearing people with Rastafari.


  11. @199

    We have all heard your Jamaican and rasta bias so we ask you to desist from taking this discussion down that road. As you know we welcome freedom of speech which places a great burden on commenters to be considerate.


  12. …..’So what do you expect of the police when confronting people with locks in any situation?

    See what I mean???
    I guess every man in a pink shirt and square mouth shoes is gay then?

    The Police are supposed to act fairly in the execution of their duties regardless.
    Was it a Rasta that refused them entry to the gated community?
    Is everyone coming out of church on Sunday a Christian?

    This issue here is not about who is Rasta or not…it is about Profiling by the Police.


  13. David, I don’t know what ur referring to! IT IS A MATTER OF IRREFUTABLE FACT that Rastafarianism comes from JAMAICA so I don’t know what lack of considerateness you’re referring to! If I’m mistaken in that FACT then please correct me. If you’re asking me to state that I’m in favour of Rastafarianism when I’m not, then I’m sorry but I’m unable to help you! Do you propose to tell the other posters also, what to think!!

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    “See what I mean???
    I guess every man in a pink shirt and square mouth shoes is gay then?”

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    What utter trollope!! The police are only human with normal common sense and discernment!! Obviously, if it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck they’re going to assume it’s a duck, and who, with any intelligence, could blame them!!


  14. Profiling in itself is a BIAS. But if the police in Barbados were to really profile everyone in accordance with ‘the prevention of crime’ BS, the first people that they should pull over are men and women of the ‘white collar’ professions, then themselves, then the tourist who come looking for sex and leave diseases. Rasta are easy picking because of the self-hatred mindset of the average Barbadian.

  15. Knight of the Long Knives Avatar
    Knight of the Long Knives

    Profiling in itself is a BIAS. But if the police in Barbados were to really profile everyone in accordance with ‘the prevention of crime’ BS, the first people that they should pull over are men and women of the ‘white collar’ professions, then themselves
    LOL love it Hopi!!


  16. Tell me, which other race would be happy to see their people going around looking like them – only SOME blacks!! How pathetic!!


  17. David wrote:
    The fact that rastafari generally project themselves as ‘different’, have roots in Africa and use certain illegal substances for religious reasons all combine to alienate them from mainstream society and assist in profiling.
    ***
    Since when did having Roots in Africa alienate someone from mainstream society? In a country full of black people at that. I’m sure you didn’t mean to word it this way though.


  18. @Rohan

    Our comment was most deliberate. It recognises that the heavy Eurocentric influence (Adrian H would use the word enculturation) of Barbadians creates a resistance to things African.


  19. @Rohan

    Our comment was most deliberate. It recognises that the heavy Eurocentric influence (Adrian H would use the word enculturation) of Barbadians creates a resistance to things African.

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    Well, that suggests to me, that, in at least one regard, Barbadians KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING!!


  20. Ahh David, I see what you’re saying.


  21. Dear 199 you wrote “I was n’t aware that Barbados was duty-bound to accept Rastas or Rastafarianism. ”

    Actually Barbados is duty bound to accept Rastas and Rastafarianism. Under Barbados’ Constitution, Rastas (including Technician who cursed me above) have the right to practice their religion.

    So yes even though Technician does not love me, I defend his right to practice his religion.


  22. J, nobody’s denying him the right to practice whatever religion he wants. Mine, and most people’s objection to them is the disgusting appearance of many of them and their propensity to commit crime including smoking illegal substances. Presumably, it’s also enshrined in Barbados’ constitution that citizens must abide by Barbados’ laws! Why are you and the rest of wunna unable to see and understand these simple principles!


  23. “According to the senator, many Barbadians seem to be “bending over backwards to make excuses for people who are doing nonsense across the length and breadth of this island”.

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    LOL, he must have been following this debate and, I could n’t agree with him more!! Furthermore, he is actually one of your own kind and his name in Bimbro or even 199!! So, read dat and wake-up!!

    http://www.nationnews.com/news/local/criminal-appeals-FRONT-PAGE-LEAD


  24. Is anyone aware that i rasta is in essence a true christian?

    I mean the type of christian that walked with Jesus, the type that was persecuted by the church of that time, which is pretty much the church of this time.

    Rasta is against what is called Babylon system. The Rasta way of life would do away with the Babylon way of inequality and the christian model of unloving society.

    Was it Gandhi that said ‘you Christians are so unlike Christ?’

    The marijuana debate is the first step to accepting rasta. Barbados has the opportunity to be one of the last islands that has been effected by its use, all the other islands blatantly resisted and failed at the ‘drug war.’ We should take a different approach in the fight against marijuana and control it instead of fighting it, that way we could get rid of the negative associations.

    And Rasta would be able to shine as it should. Rasta is the most plausible way forward for Barbados. the christian model is not working.


  25. Dear Ready-Done you wrote “Is anyone aware that i rasta is in essence a true christian? …Rasta is the most plausible way forward for Barbados. the christian model is not working.”

    Please explain for us why you think that the rasta model will work?


  26. J For one Rasta is not reliant on money, i don’t really know if Rasta would work but i do know christian society is in a mess. I think any other model would work,

    Christians are too compromising.
    there must be clear laws in gods kingdom so you would know right from wrong.

    Rasta by contras is based on a love of nature, wich is Gods creation, to know a mans works is to know a man, and to know and love nature is to know and love God.

    Even the history of Christianity is appalling, also with the rise of Christianity came the end of ‘witch hunts.’ does no one worship the devil anymore? or is it that the people that worship the devil don’t even know?

    Christianity in practice has nothing in common with how Jesus lived his life. in fact it was the church that killed Jesus. How did Jesus’s blood get on the pointif( pope) hands? He ordered the death of Jesus and he was the leader of the church of that time, the pope, god’s ‘supposed’ appointed representative on earth.


  27. J For one Rasta is not reliant on money,

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    J, of course their not reliant on THEIR OWN money, they’re reliant on EVERYBODY ELSE’S!! That’s why they’re so familiar to the police!! Check the pics of ‘Wanted’ in your local police station!!


  28. David, 199 is right.Rastafarianism was an outgrowth of Garveyism that started in Jamaica in the 1930s.The colonial master saw them has a threat because of their afrocentric and pan-africanism philosophy.The rasta’s were persecuted by the colonial government and also by the independent jamaica government.Back in the 60’s they were occasonionally rouded up by the police and beaten and de-locks.Peter Tosh of the Wailers was a regular victim of police brutality in jamaica.Just like you have different denomination in christianity,rasta’s have their different branches:12 tribes,Nyabinghi and the boboshanti.Religious scholars have been debating for years wether Rastafarianism is a bona fide religion or just a social protest movement because of its lack of organisational structure.The herb for them is part of the sacrement and symbolic similar to the christian eucharist.Religious scholars or not people define their own religion and what they believe in. So as far as I am concern those debates are useless.

    199 your attitude is similar to some of those white cops in USA who feels that every blackman walking down the street is a criminals because of pre-conceive notion or past experiences.I guess you would not like those orthodox jews you have odd-attire appearances also.Look deep within and embrace the rasta inside you.Jah LIVE


  29. Ready-done
    While I do accept the Rasta man, I will NEVER accept the smoking of marijuana. This pratice is the principle reason for thr rasta profiling. I hope Barbados would never bow to the wishes of the rasta religion on this matter.


  30. zion, wha rasta inside me!! If there IS one, he’d betta get out right now, befo I catch e!!

    Laaaaddddddddddddddd!!!!

    Scout, even apart from the ganga, why would u be interested in accepting people who look the way many of them look!! I can’t believe that, unless the brain-washing’s succeeded in your case!!


  31. Dear Ready Done you wrote “How did Jesus’s blood get on the pointif( pope) hands? He ordered the death of Jesus and he was the leader of the church of that time”

    Where the hell did you learn your theology? The papacy had not yet been invented at the time of Jesus’ death. Pope’s did not exist until several hundred years after Jesus’s death (and for believers His resurrection)


  32. 199 you are hilarious.I am not gonna take you serious at all.


  33. 199
    Neatly groomed locks look good but those clumpy dread locks look awhful. I prefer to see the locks than the long hair that white men wear.


  34. @J

    The papacy had not yet been invented at the time of Jesus’ death. Pope’s did not exist until several hundred years after Jesus’s death (and for believers His resurrection)
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    Someone correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t St.Peter considered the first Pope?


  35. @199 have you ever notice when your woman is with child, how you is notice all the pregnant women? The mind is a very strong thing and a bias is hard to release.
    I know many lovely people that are rasta and they are some that are not so lovely, just like other non-rasta people.

    @ nice write up zion1971!! i like when i learn something.

    whether Rastafarianism is a bona fide religion or just a social protest movement? I don’t know if there is a ‘class’ that you could put rasta in, it definitely is not religion in a conventional cents, but it is a life style and a way of thinking. Which is better than conventional religion, because of its lack of organizational structure it allows every one to be seen as equal.

    @The Scout your right neat people look better and herb was not meant for smoking it was meant for eating, much like seasoning!!!!!!!!!!

    @ J & Sargeant my theory behind this is the fact that transition from PAGAN rome to ‘pope’ rome took place when Pope Damasus I took the power from the ‘Pontifex Maximus’ of the time.

    Pontifex Maximus was the term used to describe the highest position occupied in PAGAN rome

    note. a PAGAN = devil worshiper.


  36. Zion, it’s in yours and everybody else’s interests tuh tek me seriously, boa!!

    Scout, thanks for the reply but, we in talking bout white men hay!! I assume that Bim is still a majority-black-man country so we talking bout the representative-image of d place, i.e. the one which people most imagine when they think of Bim, or see when they’re there and, I definitely, don’t want it to be the image of a rasta, whether with long hair, short hair, neat hair, or messy hair!! Do you??

    I went roung de corner here d udda day in London an come face-to-face wid wanna dem wid e gray, wax-up-looking hair all d way dong to he knees and sticking out at an angle. D man give me a fright man cause I was n’t expecting to c anyting looking like dah! I nearly cuff e in e face an had very much sympathy for anybody else who had to see him for the rest of the day, not to mention his life, so, I heartily say, yes, lock them up, shave their heads but do anything to get them off the streets. Normal, decent people have the right to go about their normal business without being alarmed by the sight of those ‘people’!! – not to mention their simply making black people look pathetic!! But, perhaps, some of you don’t mind being made to look pathetic!!


  37. Ready-Done, why would you “release a bias”! I don’t possess mine for fun! They’re well considered, serious points of view which I believe to be correct!!

    RD, it’s an ‘ism’ which will, and already has, only lead to the degradation of decent Barbadian society!! Do you wish us to become like Jamaica!!


  38. So, “profile them”, I say, RBP!! “and, do your duty to god and Barbados”!!


  39. Nobody should be allowed to go around looking like that, nor behaving like that!!


  40. Would u like me to be Prime minister, RD!! I’m giving it serious, contemplation!! Dat wun’t please ‘certain’ people pun hay!!


  41. 199 That don’t hide the fact that pagans take over the name ‘christian’ in the past and that ‘christian’ society has failed us, and we need another society, and the best suited for the job is Rasta.


  42. what is it about rasta that you hate?


  43. 199, you got some serious issues. I think your issues are clinical.I am bajan and Jamaican. My mother is Bajan and my Father is Jamaican so is guess that makes me a bajam/jamban.I am not a rasta but I embrace the core philosophy.
    I suggest you enlighten yourself and read more about the rasta’s belief rather than just showcasing your ignorance.


  44. Ready-Done // May 31, 2009 at 1:21 am

    199 That don’t hide the fact that pagans take over the name ‘christian’ in the past and that ‘christian’ society has failed us, and we need another society, and the best suited for the job is Rasta.

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    LOL!! RD, I has tuh laf!! D bes suited fuh a junk-society is rasta, widout a doubt, but, nunbody hay don’t want dah!!

    Lor!!

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    Ready-Done // May 31, 2009 at 1:22 am

    what is it about rasta that you hate?

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    RD, jes about everyting!!

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    zion, I know enough about dem to know that they’re a waste of space, and so do the Barbados police!! That’s enuf fuh me!!


  45. zion, which side do u pass d dutchie, pun!! Well, ud betta mek sure it’s pun de right han side!!

    Laaaaadddddddddddddddd!!!!


  46. 199 lol lol

    You are MADDDD!!

    However I think you need a reality check! Rastas aremore conscious than most people!


  47. I give up pon you 199.


  48. That’s fine zion, as long as you’ve learnt some sense!!


  49. JC, they can’t b that conscious when, most of the time, they’re lost in a ganga-fuelled, smoke-of-oblivion!!


  50. 199 you hate every thing about rasta? can you be specific? does the rasta look intimidate you?

    It is true that people that are misfits in society tend to draw to the anti-christian/society/pagan way that Barbados has been running under from the time of the abolitionism of physical slavery.

    These criminal mined people want to be free of this christian way of thinking but often take a too radical approach.

    rasta is destine to take over, and the church/government knows this, that is why every bad done by a rasta is highlighted while all the good is overlooked.
    the church-state connection is still strong and they need to stop rasta or die. So for now rasta will have to surfer the same persecution that Christ him self surefooted.

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