A confidential document seen by Barbados Underground (BU) has implicated a Democratic Labour Party candidate nominated to run in the upcoming General Election in some rather murky activities. The investigation dates back to nearly 10 years.
From our inception, we have been reluctant to carry stories which may promote character assassination. However, in this instance, we feel that in the interest of truth, our commitment to freedom of information and transparency of our democracy, this story MUST be told. We have taken a position not to publish it in its entirety until such time when we have received a legal opinion to satisfy some of our concerns. We urge the BU family to appreciate our decision because of the confidential nature of the document.
It is no secret that there is a widely held view in Barbados that people from certain minority groups have been allowed to reside in Barbados, and on closer examination have been known not to speak a word of English. Also they have had very limited relationships with people in Barbados. We have written previously about the unwillingness of the responsible government agencies to inform Barbadians about the true number of legal and illegal Guyanese on our island. We are now convinced that the government before CWC 2007 had no efficient mechanism to gather such information. We have come to the conclusion that the Barbados immigration system is in need of massive reform which would prevent it from being manipulated by groups in our society who have money and influence. The document in our possession refers to the authorities having knowledge of female spouses who are not able to understand the language of their respective Barbadian husbands. The heavy suspicion by authorities that the females participated in a marriage of convenience for money was listed as a concern in the document.
What we find very disturbing is the notion that our authorities have had serious concerns about access to sensitive information within the Immigration Department by low-level employees. One member of the BU household is more concerned at the idea that a low- level employee was thought to have maintained uncomfortably close relationships with immigration officials. Taken at face value, this is a perception which may seem harmless, but when fitted with what we have observed with the large immigrant inflows into Barbados, we should continue to be very vigilant even in the face of being accused of xenophobia.
The document confirms that the key reason behind the racket to the marriages of convenience by a certain group in Barbados was to facilitate their applications for business travel to the United States of America by showing evidence of ‘Barbadian status and Residence’.
We will bring it home now.
It appears from our reading that a current candidate in the upcoming election has been fingered as one of the persons involved in this illegal activity of Marriages for Sale Scam which dates back nearly a decade. Before we make more information public, we are prepared to give all the information which we have to the Leader of the Opposition for his full investigation. We believe that it is in the interest of the Barbadian public that he should open an internal investigation into the candidate selection by his party. Many of our commenters, Adrian H especially have joined BU in the cry for political reform. It is not sufficient that we place an X every five years in an election; our democracy must become more embodied in all that it perceived to be just. Politicians are critical agents in our system of government; therefore the screening and selection process of our political parties must be rigorous to eliminate those individuals who have questionable reputations. The recent pronouncements by both parties concerning the need to introduce integrity legislation are appreciated. We are fully aware this is the silly season which means that it is the right time to make promises to an apathetic electorate.
We give David Thompson three (3) days to indicate to Barbados Underground if he wants the information which we have, before we do the required follow-up story.
BU don’t be chicken. Tell us who is the candidate.
How can marriage of convenience provide more than a right of citizenship for Barbados ?
How does it assist in relation to life in the USA ?
I find it amazing that if this information had any basis that the foul mouthed mottley and Owing would have long ago milked it for what it was worth to them for whatever gains that they may be able to get from doing so.
Does it not make you wonder why and if the claims were true why they were never acted on ?
Surely something as earth shattering as this would not have ended without a wimper being said by the blp I would strongly suggest to you to go carefully in your williningness to investigate as half truths and untruths has been and continues to be the hallmark of this adminstration, they may be in receipt of a document but having looked into that matter at hand to have found it not to be creditable and put it to bed and we now take it up for the purpose of character assassination and find yourselves out there on a limb with no confirming proof.
Lets face facts there is no way that any member of the DLP would not have been charged 10 years ago by a blp run adminstration for doing something that was wrong.
So simply put it suggest to me by their non action in this matter it was considered by those with legal minds not to be a chargeable act.
BU tell all and let all. While you are at it, some people say that we should give Lammie Graig a break on account of his age. I don’t care to be so generous. Any claim of infelicities regarding foreign born persons and immigration, cannot be fully ventilated without a serious attempt to investigate the dealings of this man, and lets not forget the slap on the wrist a certain WHITE race car driver got for his actions concerning the same. Sorry BU i cannot divorce from my mind that the persons behind this revelation are partisan political operatives, and not non-partisan persons like yourself who have an interest in fair play, …..this does not strike me as an attempt to holistically deal with genuine concerns. We all know how alien to the truth some partisan Barbadians are, that any number of scandalous activities on the part of BLP members are ignored, swept under the carpet etc, and that all it takes is one incident of similar wrong doing on the part of the DLP and we are encourage by political hacks to behave as if it is the only account of this behaviour. I think that part of the effort of gaining genuine reflection and attention to the contents of the constitutional reform recommendations is to send this current government packing, for we have absolutely no chance of any meaningful reform with them in power, as 13 years in absolute control of power can attest.
….BU what you need to do is to give your evidence over to the police. The way you are going about this is exactly the way the partisan person would want you to deal with. What is the alleged illegal actions of one person, you are being use to make into an indictment against the entire DLP. I ask you to think about your actions. You and I are strong advocates for election, parliamentary, and constitutional reform to the centralize system of government we have, we are so mindful of it’s short comings that to be a party member or hack is an unconscionable activity for us, ………yet i am mindful that if we are truly interested in any reform we must accept that access to the law making body of Barbados, the parliament, must be had, and that currently the only vehicles for entry in parliament, is the political party, and that the current governing one is not the party for change as 13 years of experience tells us this, so i am not ready to join with BLP political hacks to focus attention on the DLP to the extent that it can persuade voters. No way. Take your evidence to the police.
I don’t care if it is Dee or Bee involved, you as the moderator must give a hearing to any concerns as you see fit.
This will show the partisan faces of the writers. I for one will avoid any political party controversy.
WIV
“I find it amazing that if this information had any basis that the foul mouthed mottley and Owing would have long ago milked it for what it was worth”
It is called TIMING.
Use the info when it can cause maximum damage.
Don’t forget position is the art of gunnery.
Anonymous // November 26, 2007 at 11:15 am
WIV
“I find it amazing that if this information had any basis that the foul mouthed mottley and Owing would have long ago milked it for what it was worth”
It is called TIMING.
Use the info when it can cause maximum damage.
Don’t forget position is the art of gunnery.
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This is my point exactly. The persons behind this exclusive evidence of culpability in breaking our country’s laws, isn’t interested in right or wrong, and BU shouldn’t find any comfort in being used much the same as these persons would use the Nationnews and Advocate.
frankology // November 26, 2007 at 11:14 am
I don’t care if it is Dee or Bee involved, you as the moderator must give a hearing to any concerns as you see fit.
This will show the partisan faces of the writers. I for one will avoid any political party controversy.
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Frankeulogy: all the partisan faces have to do is take the position you usually do, that is to claim to deal with facts and facts alone, and even create them on the fly.
Three days wow… I hope this does not go down the same road that he has. you know what I mean with the no confidence motion and all –
Clearly these are the opening salvos in what is preparing to be the nastiest, roughest, most bared knuckles election in the history of Barbados. David if you could without “divulging” too much, what was the level of involvement of teh candidate and the extent to which it is deemed illegal? I for one believe in integrity across board and if it turns out that this evidence shows a potential MP acting illegally, then he should clear the air and take the correct action. Oh, and by teh way, our Prime Minister is on record as stating publicly that he employs (has employed) illegal workers. We need a policy that what’s good for the gander is also good for the goose!!
Adrian H et al we are not that gullible not to appreciate that this could be an attempt to manipulate and politicize the wider issue of our immigration policy by releasing this information at this time. On the flip side we are about truth and once we were satisfied that the information is accurate then we will publish it. We are disappointed at the posture of WIV who we thought would have asked BU to provide additional information so that David Thompson might take certain steps to protect his party. Additionally we wish to assure the BU family that the Police is aware of this matter. We should also remember that grounded suspicions and proving it in a court of law might be the problem here.
We reiterate that we are prepared to make this document which would have been deep in the files of two government agencies available to the Leader of the Opposition for his action.
Let us see how the political hypocrits disguised as Adrian Hinds deal with this one.
Adrian says …. “Take your evidence to the police” …..is this statement also meant for TOM PEE who says he has evidence of wrong doing in Hardwood Housing.
Adrian you are a hypocrit… Listen to your next statement….
“the current governing one is not the party for change as 13 years of experience tells us this, so i am not ready to join with BLP political hacks to focus attention on the DLP to the extent that it can persuade voters”
According to you, your position is
1. Let’s tell the people some lies because we want them to vote DLP
2. Let’s not support the truth, because we want votes for the DLP
3. Keep the people ignorant, we want votes for the DLP
4. Let’s note that I am not interested in right or wrong only in what gets votes for the DLP,
Afterall there has been no change in Barbados.
As usual Adrian – a whole heap of crap.
Yuh hypocrit.
According to you, your position is
1. Let’s tell the people some lies because we want them to vote DLP
2. Let’s not support the truth, because we want votes for the DLP
3. Keep the people ignorant, we want votes for the DLP
4. Let’s note that I am not interested in right or wrong only in what gets votes for the DLP,
Afterall there has been no change in Barbados.
As usual Adrian – a whole heap of crap.
Yuh hypocrit.
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Those 4 points are according to you. So you can continue to discuss theme with yourself.
Turning over the information to the police is time and energy wasted. RBPF seem to shy away from investigating alleged fraud, corruption by top officials in government, regardless of the affiliated party. Like other instances, this one has been covered with an iron lid, and sealed.
If anything were to come out of this, it would be nothing other than exposure and embarrassment to the players involved.
Goodmorning Adrian. We know that this is the silly season and we will see lots more of these so called secrets that usually comes out of the woodwork around this time. This is what I call delayed hypocrisy. In a case like this, I prefer to deal with statements from both sides and interpret the logic to get the real facts.
Such stupid comments // November 26, 2007 at 11:48 am
Let us see how the political hypocrits disguised as Adrian Hinds deal with this one.
Adrian says …. “Take your evidence to the police” …..is this statement also meant for TOM PEE who says he has evidence of wrong doing in Hardwood Housing.
Adrian you are a hypocrit… Listen to your next statement….
“the current governing one is not the party for change as 13 years of experience tells us this, so i am not ready to join with BLP political hacks to focus attention on the DLP to the extent that it can persuade voters”
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I maintain that the way to deal with this is to take the information to the police, to see these accusations if true in the same light that we would have viewed Rommell’s transgression, and other politicians and or party members before him, like the former lawyers a Mr. Niles who one ran on a DLP ticket for St. Thomas or former BLP speaker of the house the disgrace Ezra Alleyne, both of whom where found guilty of “thieving” their clients money. On both sides there are corrupt actions and rumours of corrupt actions on any number of members of the political class. I have a problem with the approach that BU seems to be taking with information that clearly seems to be had from within BLP, an institution that is sure to benefit from this revelation, and there in lies my concern. I will not back away from my believe that this current BLP lot cannot be now seen as the party of reform, for they are already wearing the hat of the most corrupt, and i view reform as to be so important and while understanding the path to said reform i have to choose between the two corrupt entities to have access to law making that is the ultimate end point to reformation. Who among us is so willing to state a coherent case as to why the current governing party should not be seen as the most corrupting, and amoral group in our history thus far? 13 years of proof is to be had.
BU are you also going to give the BLP 3 days to respond to Rommell’s court case? How many more days will you require for the Prime Minister to clear the air of that cheque? You are given priority to a common story line as if it is the first time that illegal activity is taking place amongst the political class and those who are aspiring to it’s ranks, when evidence of this kind is plentiful, why are you singling out this one for the this type of scrutiny, and not the others?
frankology // November 26, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Goodmorning Adrian. We know that this is the silly season and we will see lots more of these so called secrets that usually comes out of the woodwork around this time. This is what I call delayed hypocrisy. In a case like this, I prefer to deal with statements from both sides and interpret the logic to get the real facts.
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Frankeulogy: you say WE ,…did you include BU? i am mystified that he is giving priority to this as if it is precedent setting. schuuupppsseee.
Sapidillo // November 26, 2007 at 12:03 pm
Turning over the information to the police is time and energy wasted. RBPF seem to shy away from investigating alleged fraud, corruption by top officials in government, regardless of the affiliated party. Like other instances, this one has been covered with an iron lid, and sealed.
If anything were to come out of this, it would be nothing other than exposure and embarrassment to the players involved.
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No Sap no, it can work and even so we should not prejudge the usefulness of doing what the law requires. We are going to have some faith in our systems or we can continue to let lawlessness reign on our way to anarchy. Proof that going to the police does at times work. Errol Niles for DLP candidate for St.Thomas and Ezra Alleyne BLP parliamentarian and former speaker of the house are two prominent examples of “HIGH FLYING LAWYERS” who had to face the public humiliation of having to publicaly account for their theifing ways.
The institutions to which these men are members need not suffer any fallout unless the illicit activities in question are systemic, and rooted within the organization or amongst the membership of said organization.
you say WE ,…did you include BU? i am mystified that he is giving priority to this as if it is precedent setting.
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We the commenters and we the voters. Dissemination of news can be DEES or BEES, we can only hope.
Let me first explain that I am not a member of any political party but I have been motivated purely by the extent of the corruption that is going on under this admistration at this time.
I cannont speak on behalf of the DLP , BLP or PEP my comments are simply my own thoughts and no one else.
My comments stand that if their was any substance to this, rest assured the blp would have proceeded in carrying those involved to court in the wink of an eye and that you are being used for political purposes, by those in power.
Adrian and others please note our previous comment on your desire that we turnover this information to the police. So that is not an issue. We have given Thompson 3 days before we release more information to give him the opportunity to do what he has to do. We are prepared to level the playing field for him.
In the case of the $750,000.00 donation and the Rommel affair we are not in possession of information which we are withholding. The two examples you cited we have written on at length.
What are we to do, sit on the information?
This is to WIV. When we have published stories which were anti-government it was not a problem. In this case we have information which might cause the DLP a little embarrassment and the issue about government leaked reports is coming fast and furious. There is nothing to stop DLP sympathizers from leaking/throwing information from a truck.
BU: Since you seem to think that this a political issue, as indeed it is a criminal one,…Are you also willing to tell us the political affiliation of your source?…, real or assume? I think we have a right to be able to put this information in it’s proper context.
Good: since these accusation consist of persons entering the US on false information which is against US immigration laws and for which there is no statue of limitations. Penalties of conviction and or debarment from entering the US can be adjudged to both the accuse and any person found guilty of aiding persons to break the law,…..This case can and should have far reaching consequences, even if unintended. Since one such person accuse is either a member of the political class or is aspiring to it’s ranks, if this case is ever brought before ICE it may lead to reforms in processing residency and visitor applications from this region. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see the Barbadian political class treated with the level if mistrusted they may have earned. Unfortunately the way these things work, if implemented it would most likely result inconvenience to all Barbadians desirous of traveling to the US.
….I am dearing you BU to make the full document/s available. The US is about to enter full election mode, and one of the big topics is immigration, I would love to make my congressmen and senators aware of the corruption taking place in Highplaces in Barbados, and the willingness of the authorities to not share this information with them only to do so for political gains, Lets see what becomes of it.
The DLP spinners out in force, off spin, leg spin, wrist spin, finger spin, back of the arm spin, googly, doosra, behind the back spin, all kind of fancy spin, but they spinning in vain, this wicket in tekin no spin. It hard, hard, hard. Umpire David say so.
David:
Adrian H et al we are not that gullible not to appreciate that this could be an attempt to manipulate and politicize the wider issue of our immigration policy by releasing this information at this time. On the flip side we are about truth and once we were satisfied that information is accurate then we will publish it.
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This report most likely came into your possession for the convenience of publicized political gain, and at a time of a pending election, so in spite of you saying otherwise, You are indeed gullible.
Oh and BFP is suggesting that you cannot take or make this incident known to the police for what you have in your possession are “confidential Police reports”
…..who did you get these documents from David? what is their political affiliation most likely to be? You may have unwittingly join with partisan operatives in their narrow minded self interest political preservation at the expense of and to the great inconvenience of many Barbadians, and while the 13 years of the assumed political source for your story demonstrates that they are not terribly moved or offended by the inconvenience that they have cause to Barbadians, am I now to believe that you also take pride in so doing?
Adrian we are trying to follow you here because on political matters we have followed your postings and have some respect for the positions you have been known to take.
In an earlier comment you challenged us to publish it all but your most recent comments appear to be contradictory. In our position what would you do if you had received the information knowing that the police would have known about it? Should we withdraw the story and go on bashing the government about the cost of living, corruption etc? Then all would be well? Strange that when we published information which was anti-government from ‘sources’ nobody questioned?
Inkwell // November 26, 2007 at 2:35 pm
The DLP spinners out in force, off spin, leg spin, wrist spin, finger spin, back of the arm spin, googly, doosra, behind the back spin, all kind of fancy spin, but they spinning in vain, this wicket in tekin no spin. It hard, hard, hard. Umpire David say so.
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Drinking from the well of Mia Mottely, saying a lot and not fully understanding what they are saying.
Spin of the kind you reference i.e. as in the game of cricket is real, and can be achieved on any kind of surface, even in the air one can get the ball to “spin” and as always the objective is to deliver up the wicket again the objections of the Batter.
…..but never mind me, continue to dismiss me as just “the next nudder party hack”
I have no real concern about what you choose to do or not to do, my only comment was that this is the slime that is the blp, sadly so far there is no documented paperwork on hand with regard to the millions that Hallam Nicholls and Owing have taken outside of these shores.
More pointedly is the comment over at BFP which states that the same friend that provided this story to you may well be setting both of these blogs up for taking a full scale investigation by the FBI as to the source of these supposely gov’t documents.
Tread carefully with what ever you do because knowing the method of operation of the scamps of this party they want to see an end to these blogs and will stop at nothing to achieve this goal including setting both of you up for a fall.
Adrian we aretrying to follow you here because on political matters we have followed your postings and have some respect for the positions you have been known to take.
In an earlier comment you challenged us to publish it all but your most recent comments appear to be contradictory. In our position what would you do if you had receive the information knowing that the police would have known about it? Should we withdraw the story and go on bashing the government about the cost of living, corruption etc?
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How is it contradictory? From your initial piece meal approach on this matter i gleemed that you have information about illegal activity on someone. To that i say publish it all and stop asking for a 3 day response.
Then you issued portions of it and it became a little clearer that what you had, not only told of breaking Barbados laws but laws of a friendly country. For that I am now emploring to produce it all now.
You said that either you have informed the police or that the Police has been aware of it for some time and BFP is saying that what you came into posession of are Police confidential reports. I say you need to at least tell us the political affiliation of the person you got it from, real or assumed, as it’s context, giving the time, and status of person and their organizations, can be fairly judged.
My current position relates to all that have been said and not said by you, and what BFP are suggesting. The reason i gave for initially suggesting that you tell all and let all may differ from the current reason that i still believe that you should tell and let all, but nevertheless you should tell all and let all. I know what i will do with the information as soon as you so do.
What would i have done?
Send a strong signal to the source that i cannot be use for their poltical interest, by
1: stating up front my opinion of the political affiliations of the source.
2: give my opinion and what i think about the source, the fact that i got this information now and the significance of it all.
3: I would seek to make sure that the Federal authorities of the U.S.A are aware of these accusation to breach their laws.
In all i would move away from presenting the information in a way that may demonstrate that i am doing the bidding of someone.
You cannot withdraw it now. Your credibility will be at stake,….that is another unintended outcome on your part and a plus to the current government and successive ones in the future. So don’t get all dismissive with me. Iin your last question,….You have already demonstrated that you cannot rise beyond the two parties in your search for the truth, that you would run with information from one known untruthful source, telling on another source of corruption .
BU continue to think that i am playing politics and being a hypocrit. I will wait the three days until Thompy does not reply and for you publish it all. Then i will have a copy to carry out my little experiment.
Thanks Adrian, we have read your comment carefully. We agree and disagree with some points you raised. We will be the first to put our hand up if we think we have made a mistake. We have no malicious political agenda and it does pain us to be accuse of all manner of things.
We will have to sleep on some things which you and others have raised and make some decisions about how we blog in the future.
Thanks again.
I will lay it bare what my thoughts are. This report seemly contains glimpse of the illegal activities while not occuring within the US but never the less give the federal Authorities some responsibility in this matter, by so called highflyers in Barbados. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see anyone of these so called highflyers treated like the common thief they are. It is most likely not to occurr in the jurisdiction of Barbados so i would attempt to see what i can procure in the USA. Yes i have be smitten by the Keltruth blog. 😀
You are a man of honour David I compliment you on your position.
Attention American Federal Bureau Of Investigation: The Barbados Government May Be Lying To You!
The Government of Barbados deliberately leaked confidential Barbados police intelligence files to a blog that has been a thorn in the side of the government. The leaked files contain decade-old information in an attempt to discredit an opposition candidate.
But the Barbados Government may have a second reason for leaking the documents: to gain FBI assistance in identifying the publisher of an anonymous blog that has been publishing information about government corruption and waste.
Will the Barbados government now claim that it needs American FBI assistance to “discover” who leaked the confidential Barbados Police intelligence reports to Barbados Underground blog? Will the Barbados government now ask for FBI assistance to identify the publishers of the Barbados Underground blog?
The police and intelligence agencies in the United States are reluctant to be used by foreign governments to target political opposition members or popular opposition to a government. By leaking confidential police intelligence documents to the blogs, the Barbados Government can now claim that they have a serious leak in their police force and ask for FBI assistance.
The FBI could then use the American security laws to approach WordPress.com (an American company) to try to identify the publishers of Barbados Underground – purportedly to try and solve the mystery of the leaked documents.
But it would all be a fraud committed upon the FBI by the Barbados Government. The Barbados Government would be using the American Federal Bureau of Investigation for a political purpose, but disguising its intent under the cloak of a “real” investigation into leaked confidential documents.
David my first suggestion would be to forward it to the FBI office in Barbados at tel # 436 4950 while you are at it can you also seek their involvement to investigate the corruption that is the VECO PRISON deal where we have a know corrupt company that has been proven guilty for paying bribes to politicians in Alaska, being awarded a contract for the PRISON in Barbados that starts out at US $ 60 million and closes off at US $ 142 million and we have corrupt politicians here why would we feel that they would be so honest as not to accept the VECO bribe money as well.
So in your discussions with them also suggest that VECO, Hallam Nicholls and Owing Arthur needs looking into a little closer.
David you have be patient. It may seems to some that i am partisan, but that is not to know me at all. As long as we have a system where by the most powerful person in our “Democracy” is not chosen by popular ballot so to as long will i be “oppose” the governing party. This time and for the last 13 years it as been the BLP so to the simpleton or the person now tuning it would appear that they have discovered something.
I am not fooled
When Owen Arthur became the PM he made statements like questioning the usefulness of the senate, the drawbacks of the first past the post system of democracy etc. 13 years later we have no change. In fact 13 years later we have a PM who has demonstrated his mastery of manipulating the short comings that has always characterize of our system of government.
David Thompson like Owen when he started is now saying all the right things and promising to implement them, I am willing give David Thompson 5 yrs to make those changes, At the end of 4 yrs in office and One year to the end of those 5 yrs will be two late to make the changes and to be seen as sincere. I am prepared to recycle these has beens every 5 yrs until they understand that they must implement a system that in deeds, and in actions reflect that we have a democracy and not only superficial trappings of one as is currently the case. If a third party comes along that isn’t stamped with a ultra socialist blue print of the Castro Chavez kind i will look to them too to help move our country along to that place where Barbadians since 1969 and as recent as the constitutional review commission would demonstrate, a place where Barbadians can meaningfully be engaged in governing themselves.
Adrian can you send us email addresses of people in the US who would be interested in this information?
David
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Yuh know David up to now i don’t know you from the next nudder person, and i understand the resons given for so doing, and please this is not a request to know of you. I on the other hand can be seen all over the internet, no hiding on my part. My email address is aohinds@verizon.net I also have a gmail account since some persons said that they could not send to the verizon one and that is adrianhinds0@gmail.com I don’t know who will be interested in it until after i send it to them, but i have given you the titles of the person that i intend to send it to.
…..Does anyone know anything about Taan Abed? Initially when i saw the name i thought one of the Abeds from Swan Street fame rising up and getting involved. Then when i saw the man and further more heard him, i wondered what process was used to select and endorse him? Yes he does carry a Barbadian passport been living in Barbadados for over two decades i think i heard him say. Oh yes his infantile command of spoken english cause my fertile brain to find a possible candidate suited to the contents of BU’s article. 😀 what say you BU? certainly no one expects him to win, ….well except me as i am still calling for 30-0 against the BLP. 😀 and if he does win and assuming it isn’t him that is featured in BU’ s article should there be any concern with this? Serians have been part of our society for sometime now, and we have had and still do, persons who may sound like the majority of us but don’t look like most of us in parliament. Aaron Truss and Willie Duguid to name two 😀 But don’t we all believe that our parliament has some law breakers in it? some so only accused and one actually found guilty before a court of law?
The problem with BU is the fact they are allowing this blog to work in the interest of the corrupt BLP.
I can’t believe that DAVID can’t see that.
Let the BLP continue to use the Nation, The Advocate and CBC. They are always ready, willing and able spew BLP propoganda.
You should not be helping the BLP. We all want to see the back of these crooks!
David, my recommendation is that you thread very carefully with this.
I think you should consult with the other blog BFP (encrypted mail of course) on a course of action.
Anonymous ,
I would like to say that David is totally and completely free to put out whatever he feels to put out, my only comment is that in doing so to make sure he does not expose himself or us the ones who submit comments for the exposure to the wrath of the rabid blp gang of crooks.
Speaking for myself I blog on this site and BFP because I honestly believe that they have taken every measure to protect our identities and to act as the buffer between ourselves and the vile rabid blp clan, and for this I am thankful and trust them to contiue to keep us safe and sound from the reach of the dirty hands of the blp.
Thank you.
Hartley you can do better than that
Derick Alleyne vs. Clyde Mascoll, what a match up. 😀
Adrian H obviously you think that Chris Sinckler is light weight for Clyde. Why not bring them both? We do need a challenge. that brings out the best in us.
Such stupid comments // November 27, 2007 at 3:44 pm
Adrian H obviously you think that Chris Sinckler is light weight for Clyde. Why not bring them both? We do need a challenge. that brings out the best in us.
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Boy if your assumptions are indicative of your man’s political campaign approach he gine be in dire straights and that we know that to be the case already. Clyde is no match for Chris, in fact no body can beat him in platfrom performance, no one.
I endorse the call by Tompey for the BLP to delay all works projects until the people have their say at the elections.
Since when platform performance wins elections. If that is the case explain why Chris the great platform performer has never won an election. Explain why Dereck Alleyne annother great platform performer has never won? The harsh reality is these clown are the free entertainment packages used by the DLP but never rewarded. Dereck Alleyne was fired as TOM PEE Assistant, Chris never even serve in the Senate. The more you write the more you characterise yourself as a political neophyte. Little boy go back to your pretense of being neutral, you were better then.
Such stupid comments // November 28, 2007 at 8:57 am
Since when platform performance wins elections. If that is the case explain why Chris the great platform performer has never won an election. Explain why Dereck Alleyne annother great platform performer has never won? The harsh reality is these clown are the free entertainment packages used by the DLP but never rewarded. Dereck Alleyne was fired as TOM PEE Assistant, Chris never even serve in the Senate. The more you write the more you characterise yourself as a political neophyte. Little boy go back to your pretense of being neutral, you were better then.
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There is a time for everything. Chris sojourn in elective politics is no different than many that went before him. It is a matter of finding the right place to pitch tent, and St.Micheal northwest is as good as any; a DLP strong hold, and a very weak and highly compromise candidate. But i do understand your view that platform performance do not win elections, this why your man have not pitch tent yet.
SSC – who was easily unmasked by Ex MP last week – is known to be Mascoll’s stepney and has been for years so he will now attack Chris and Derek and he supported Derek when he was a more sensible member of the St. Michael West Central Branch! What changed? Mascoll’s dishonest deception.
Now he is anti-thompy and in a very destructive mode. The one thing I have found about David Thompson over the years is this: when he is silent they beat up on him and he takes it in his stride but as soon as he replies, they all run for cover and accuse him of taking advantage of them and the rules.
He is articulate, cogent and devastating.
Any debate between David Thompson and Cap is a forgone conclusion. Call FMH!
It shows his superior intellect and ability to all of them. Simple. They are unfit to unlatch his shoes.
ha ha ha ha
THE SPEAKER OF HOUSE IS NAKED, except for his RED party hat.
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More evidence why our system of governance and in particular our parliament is such a farce. Here you have a speaker of the house who is suppose to be impartial in rulings, and in his interpretation of the standing rules of the house, yet he cannot bring himself to take off the shackles of his party membership, and affiliation.
Just as the concepts and actions that are characterized by the statement “Justice must not only be served, It must be SEEN to have been served, so too, should the actions of the Speaker of the house must not only be impartial, and be to the letter of the rules, he must be SEEN to have been impartial and act to the letter of the rules.
In one breath he refers to the rules as clear as they relate to the procedures, and in another he accuses the parliamentarian who happens to be a member of the opposing party, of taking advantage of a section of the Standing Orders “that was not very clear”. They are clear and yet not clear.
Why is there a big issue at this time for this BLP politician masquerading as an impartial arbitrator of debates in the people’s house?… He goes on further to wear his party hat while on the throne on high. He claims that he is disturbed, and that a great disservice has been done to the house by the way the matter has been taken to the public, and to bring him into it, to give the impression that he has not done what he was supposed to do.” I hope that he is suggesting that his disturbance is caused by the way it was presented to the public and not that it went before the public in the first place. He can see, apparently, with his BLP party blinders on, that this revelation to the public is not right, yet his own actions of discussing a private member’s correspondence with him in his capacity of the Impartial speaker, he in turns, discusses it, with the Leader of the House;… and what would be at cause for him to so do? His party allegiance is the same as that of the leader of the house is it not?
This man who would want us to look no further than the silly regalia he wears and the silly monotone speech pattern he delivers his utterances in, and ignore the glaring fact that his party allegiance will always come first and that like all others before him, he has demonstrated the inability, to be truly impartial, and to truly adhere to the rules as they are. That he would now at this time and to the convenience of the Political party of which he is a member, make the statement that a resolution is not to be determined on the outside.”, but is willing himself to look outside of our parliament into the parliament of Trinidad to institute a stop gap rule to deny an Opposition parliamentarian the use of a process that has precedent in that chamber. Mr. Speaker while you are identifying rules that are clear and then not clear, and now seems to see something wrong with a private member having the ability to debate his/her resolution at a time of his chosen, what is your opinion of the constitutional law that allows a prime minister the right to call elections at a time of his choosing? What says you? Just like a no-confidence motion is no trivial matter so too is an election, is it not? Mixed government of the kind we have is a farce, a continual enigmatic Pantomime, where the responsible and those not responsible are all the same.
My opinions on the system of government we have is justified in the action and statements of the Speaker of the House as informed by the Nationnews paper and the following articles
Adrian
http://www.barbadosforum.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=6939&view=findpost&p=67434
Worse Adrian:
He accuses Thompson of not acting in accordance with a Rule that exists in the Eastern Caribbean but not in Barbados! There is no 12 day rule or principle in Barbados.
When the DLP site has the speech of David Thompson from that massive Sunday night meeting, you will see why Roett is in a pickle. Thompson undressed him with one line!
I am not confuse by the meaningless titles people give to themselves in parliament. The record for me on Tuesday the 27th of November 2007 sitting of the house will always be that Thompson took on two BLPites and took them to task.
That so desperate and exasperated are they that just as the consititution is not safe in their keep so too the standing orders of the House will now be change to convenience them. The practice is clear.
….That whether it is an attempt to change the law against buggery that would benefit some of it’s members
Or an attempt to suspend the constitution for political gain in the upcoming election.
Or to change the standing orders to force an MP to bring a private member motion within a specified number of days.
…This BLP government has demonstrated what it will do and the depth it is willing to go to legitimize it self and to win an election.
….But no matter the outcome, these occurance will not change in my eyes nor in my opinions.
Mia Mottley will always be Frank, it is her nature to be.
Mia Mottley will always be Frank, it is his nature to be.
Leviticus // November 28, 2007 at 5:01 pm
Worse Adrian:
He accuses Thompson of not acting in accordance with a Rule that exists in the Eastern Caribbean but not in Barbados! There is no 12 day rule or principle in Barbados.
When the DLP site has the speech of David Thompson from that massive Sunday night meeting, you will see why Roett is in a pickle. Thompson undressed him with one line!
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I spoke to that at the end. This is Roett, Blp member supposedly functioning in a non partisan role in the house. We also have a Chief Justice that walk out of the title, David Simmonds MP BLP st. Thomas into the clearly defined role of head of the seperate and independent arm of governance, the Judicary. I am not going to be easily convince that should the DLP form the next government and attempts to carry out the justice that several members of the current governmet party clearly needs to answer for that he too will not be found to be naked except for his RED party hat.
He accuses Thompson of not acting in accordance with a Rule that exists in the Eastern Caribbean but not in Barbados! There is no 12 day rule or principle in Barbados.
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Did Thompson not admit the 12 day rule and how he still have time even when the House commence sitting next week.
frankology // November 28, 2007 at 7:23 pm
He accuses Thompson of not acting in accordance with a Rule that exists in the Eastern Caribbean but not in Barbados! There is no 12 day rule or principle in Barbados.
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Did Thompson not admit the 12 day rule and how he still have time even when the House commence sitting next week.
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ha ha ha ha ha Boy trust you find anything to use as a get away car. I watching your contributions closley bacause it looks to me like you can entertain a serious and lenghty debate with me. 😀
So when did he say this? and in what context? was it in response to the Ishmeal Roett MP BLP St. Michael central, contention of what pertains in other countries?
Or did Thompy make the claim as a result of learning that such rules are in our standing orders?
My take on this is , if he did indeed say what you contend, is that the 12 limit is not at this time enforcible in our parliament,
….that Ishmeal Roett MP BLP St.Michael Central has hinted at the possiblility of making a change to our rules to reflect this limit; and in so saying caused Thompy to retort “well if thats is the case i will have a further 12 days from the time this new limit comes into play”.
…..Am i about correct, close but no cigar? 😀
So when did he say this? and in what context? was it in response to the Ishmeal Roett MP BLP St. Michael central, contention of what pertains in other countries?
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Thompson might have been in receipt of the other island’s 12-day rule, and responded to the speaker that if it is on last Friday’s order paper, he still within the 12-day period if it starts next Tuesday. That is his statement – not word for word.
Adrian, Saturday and Sunday included within Parliamentary days?
Looking at the behaviour of the Speaker, certain members of both parties, even the views of somem commenters; nobody seems to be aware of this 12-day time factor. I doubt that it is enshrined within our Parliamentary System, no wonder the speaker was hinting for a response in having it made law.
Adrian, I keep saying that I respond to the writings of commenters and any loop-holes I jump on. I do enjoy having clean discussions with you folks.
frankology // November 28, 2007 at 9:56 pm
So when did he say this? and in what context? was it in response to the Ishmeal Roett MP BLP St. Michael central, contention of what pertains in other countries?
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Thompson might have been in receipt of the other island’s 12-day rule, and responded to the speaker that if it is on last Friday’s order paper, he still within the 12-day period if it starts next Tuesday. That is his statement – not word for word.
Adrian, Saturday and Sunday included within Parliamentary days?
Looking at the behaviour of the Speaker, certain members of both parties, even the views of somem commenters; nobody seems to be aware of this 12-day time factor. I doubt that it is enshrined within our Parliamentary System, no wonder the speaker was hinting for a response in having it made law.
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Frankology nothing Thompson has said done up until the Speaker made mention of other countries 12 day rule, would give anyone any idea that Thompson knew of the 12 day rule. Why should he? this is Barbados where no such rule exist. It is likely a response, if he did say what you contend that it was in response to the Speaker’s hint at changing the rule.
But Frankology are you not in the least concern about the number rules, laws, and regulations that this BLP party has demonstrated a willingness to change? and that when look at closely as to why the changes are needed, it always seems to benefit them the most? no concern?
What are you views on the right of Barbados to hang person on death row and the fact that a Judge in different to our laws invoke some convension and or treaty that Barbados may signed or agree to that prohibits hanging? You think a our laws should superceed any foreign convention or law?
We suppose to be an Independent nation, and our laws should supersede foreign conventions even if that country force any embargo on us if we had to make a decision to hang someone once all laws are adhered to. We must show them that our people are rallying behind our laws (forget party partisanship).
Adrian, Thompson is smart, he has parliamentary gurus of the like of Sir Erskine who would have been versed with such no-confidence motions; and he might have been knowledgeable to force the hands of the Speaker and Ms. Mottley. He knew how far to antagonise these people, yet, he did not put himself in a position to play at the wrong ball. I would like to know if the 12-day rule in other countries, includes Saturday and Sunday; or even a bank-holiday. Please advise.
Frankology we listened to the debate and Saturday and Sunday was included in the count by Thompson and the Speaker. From this we can assume that this is the case in the other Caribbean islands where it exist.
frankology // November 29, 2007 at 10:15 am
We suppose to be an Independent nation, and our laws should supersede foreign conventions even if that country force any embargo on us if we had to make a decision to hang someone once all laws are adhered to. We must show them that our people are rallying behind our laws (forget party partisanship).
Adrian, Thompson is smart, he has parliamentary gurus of the like of Sir Erskine who would have been versed with such no-confidence motions; and he might have been knowledgeable to force the hands of the Speaker and Ms. Mottley. He knew how far to antagonise these people, yet, he did not put himself in a position to play at the wrong ball. I would like to know if the 12-day rule in other countries, includes Saturday and Sunday; or even a bank-holiday. Please advise.
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But Frankology if you agree that as a sovereign nation our laws should superceed any foriegn ones, why would you AT THIS TIME be interested in knowing what applys in other jurisdictions with regards 12 day limits on private members resolutions? Are you equally as concern about what pertains in some countries as to the certainty of an election date?
I have no interest in what Trinidad House rules say, uh mean we are not quite yet an annex of Trinidad.
Frankology,
You can always be counted on to SPIN like your other BLP hoodlums !
There is no 12 – day period to debate a NO – CONFIDENCE MOTION in Barbados !
The SPEAKER said in the House on Tuesday 27th November 2007 that Barbados may have to look closely at implementing a 12 – day rule that now exists in some other Caribbean islands.
It was on that note that David Thompson……rightly PROFFERED the view that even if a 12 – day rule was in existence in BARBADOS for such a MOTION…..his ( David Thompson’s ) MOTION would still be within that time frame counting from 23rd November 2007 !
Jerome Hinds // November 29, 2007 at 11:09 am
Frankology,
You can always be counted on to SPIN like your other BLP hoodlums !
There is no 12 – day period to debate a NO – CONFIDENCE MOTION in Barbados !
The SPEAKER said in the House on Tuesday 27th November 2007 that Barbados may have to look closely at implementing a 12 – day rule that now exists in some other Caribbean islands.
It was on that note that David Thompson……rightly PROFFERED the view that even if a 12 – day rule was in existence in BARBADOS for such a MOTION…..his ( David Thompson’s ) MOTION would still be within that time frame counting from 23rd November 2007 !
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Man Jerome leave Frankology to pursue whatever line he choose, when he comes here he will have to demonstrate depth in his pronouncements. 😀 we all may learn something if we allow ourselves. 😀
Only a small percentage of the world continue to uphold the death penalty , with China carrying out the most deaths. Back in 1948 when the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was adopted, since the United Charter only discussed Human Rights in general terms after it was created shortly after the Second World war to curtailed unnecessary deaths. Since the UDHR inception, 118 member states have abolished the death penalty, stating that “everyone has the right to live”.
In 1996 a new treaty, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) was adopted encouraging the abolition of the ‘death penalty’ whereas the UDHR was monitoring the dealth penalty by allowing only serious crimes.
This is where I appose these treaties, noting that these same people you are trying to represent, also took a life; and if the law was used to sentence these people to death, we should not have any treaties hanging over any countries head in carrying out that country legitimate position in applying the death penalty. Remember, why sould you take a life and now someone protecting you from giving your life.
You can always be counted on to SPIN like your other BLP hoodlums !
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Jerome, I am no spin doctor, I am not here to defend the Bees, I am not here to defend the Dees, as a matter of fact I have no intentions of voting at the next elections. Reason, both parties have the same ideologies, with family members that are all entwined, who eat at the same table, drink at the same bar, invited to the same parties; and hop on the same plane and enjoy holidays together.
…and poor old me, you tink I am goin’ to crucify them, or bused them, or call them names. Boy, you all must be kiddin’….that’s why I prefer to deal with issues as I see them.
So Jerome and others, sorry to disappoint you again and again. I am no BEE.
We get it Frankology we get, in this intance you agree that our law should superceed foreign ones or conventions. Now is this a conviction of yours that All of our laws should be treated the same with regard to outside influences? Now this is not to say that we cannot use the proper channels to amend our laws to meet the needs of a changing Barbadian society. Would you agree that the same principle with regards hanging should be apply to the rules of our parliament?
It was on that note that David Thompson……rightly PROFFERED the view that even if a 12 – day rule was in existence in BARBADOS for such a MOTION…..his ( David Thompson’s ) MOTION would still be within that time frame counting from 23rd November 2007 !
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This is the same thing that we were discussing. We seem not to have this 12-day issue within our procedures, thus the reason of the speaker sending a spark for our parliament to adopt or maybe, reduce the time frame.
We must as a nation adopt laws that suits our people, I am not talking of waking up a morning and changing laws for your own political gains, but to embrace all sectors of the community before making such a decision. Remember, one simple language that might have a double meaning might change the outcome of an action. Definitely, our laws should supercede any outside influences.
In regards to hanging, some influential people within the judiciary systems are fully opposed to the death system, and that’s a fact, some are members of, or affiliated to, such Human Rights organisations like Amnesty International. This I believe might be the reason for the lengthy wait in carrying out the death penalty, thus the excuse of Pratt and Morgan to the rescue of these condemn murderers.
frankology // November 29, 2007 at 12:24 pm
We must as a nation adopt laws that suits our people, I am not talking of waking up a morning and changing laws for your own political gains, but to embrace all sectors of the community before making such a decision. Remember, one simple language that might have a double meaning might change the outcome of an action. Definitely, our laws should supercede any outside influences.
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So to your mind does the Ishmeal Roett MP BLP St. Micheal Central comments about what obtains in other countries sounds like an intent to change or impliment rules for political gain? If not why not?
Adrian Hinds // November 29, 2007 at 12:51 pm
frankology // November 29, 2007 at 12:24 pm
We must as a nation adopt laws that suits our people, I am not talking of waking up a morning and changing laws for your own political gains, but to embrace all sectors of the community before making such a decision. Remember, one simple language that might have a double meaning might change the outcome of an action. Definitely, our laws should supercede any outside influences.
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Are any of these person any different than Ishmeal Roett MP BLP St.Michael when they willingly want to ignore our laws and look to outside conventions and rules so guided by personal affiliations, interest and convictions?
Will you join with me in saying that Ishmeal Roett MP BLP St.Michael is wrong, partisan, and using his office for personal gain? 😀
So to your mind does the Ishmeal Roett MP BLP St. Micheal Central comments about what obtains in other countries sounds like an intent to change or impliment rules for political gain? If not why not?
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I don’t think that he is one who demand change, being the speaker and seeing nothing within our parliamentary system of ‘time to debate a no-confidence motion’. I feel that it is pure embarrassment that Barbados do not have any laws regarding this subject, thus, the reason for him to see it implemented.
We just had a good shake from an earth tremor
frankology // November 29, 2007 at 1:26 pm
I don’t think that he is one who demand change, being the speaker and seeing nothing within our parliamentary system of ‘time to debate a no-confidence motion’. I feel that it is pure embarrassment that Barbados do not have any laws regarding this subject, thus, the reason for him to see it implemented.
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Frankeulogy: You don’t think the Ishmeal Roett mp BLP St.Micheal Central is the one calling for the Trinidad 12 day rule to be brought to bare in Barbados Parliament and on a specific Private Members resolution, that happens to be a No confidence motion? Well what are you thinking?????
I love it when persons with an agenda resort to “thinking” and “feeling” and “believing”when current rules and current laws in place do not afford them a clear path, to continue, a partisan viewpoint, and to effect a favoured outcome.
…It isn’t about national embarrassment, It isn’t that we don’t have laws on the subject, it is and has always being about Ishmeal Roett mp BLP St.Micheal Central, opining as he did, simply as a BLP member doing what is in his political party’s best interest.
Adrian, You are correct, why would he have gone down that path for knowing full well that there was not such requirement in the laws of Barbados more deception placed on the people of Barbados, it was a cheap dishonest act, but we should be familiar with the blp style of dishonesty by now surely???
We would like to apprise you on the promise we made earlier this week to release the confidential document in our possession. We regret to inform you that after careful consideration and legal consultation we have been advised that the release of the follow-up article, which we had planned to release today, three days after our initial revelation, might infringe on national security and be detrimental to Barbados and others.
We hope that you understand our position that this is a very sensitive matter and must be treated accordingly.
man if i get dat article atol i posting um, simply bcos keeping things like that secret, is aiding and helping breed corruption in de country, let de ppl know wa gine on. if um did a regular man or woman, ya wudda see dum backside gine before de courts, even if u had ta do seing but wunna ministers doing things, and wunna backing dum up, wa i wanna see if wunna get in any trouble if dem gonna come and get wunna off, stop hiding de damn politicians doings, when wunna suffering, dem dont even shite pun ya
yea, my blog hay soo>>> kadriwalcottonline.com/blog
cant be frighten fuh na corrupted people if ya closet clean 🙂
David Says:
We would like to apprise you on the promise we made earlier this week to release the confidential document in our possession. We regret to inform you that after careful consideration and legal consultation we have been advised that the release of the follow-up article, which we had planned to release today, three days after our initial revelation, might infringe on national security and be detrimental to Barbados and others.
We hope that you understand our position that this is a very sensitive matter and must be treated accordingly.
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David come clean on who advise you to such? You have allowed BLP people to make a fool of you, and now you are allowing Notes from the margin and one James to somewhat influence you on what Blogs should be. You need to reflect on the reason why you started this Blog, assuming that you came by those reason on your own, and use them as a your guiding light going forward. I still maintain that you should let it out as long as you give your opinion on the political affiliation of the source, and I hope you realize how dangerous that source is, that they would risk interanational fallout to all Barbadians for political gain, which leads me to believe that this source is steep with BLP connections as this is in keeping with the actions of this party willingness to risk all to retain the government. Nothing is sacred with these people.
Kardi Says:
man if i get dat article atol i posting um, simply bcos keeping things like that secret, is aiding and helping breed corruption in de country, let de ppl know wa gine on. if um did a regular man or woman, ya wudda see dum backside gine before de courts, even if u had ta do seing but wunna ministers doing things, and wunna backing dum up, wa i wanna see if wunna get in any trouble if dem gonna come and get wunna off, stop hiding de damn politicians doings, when wunna suffering, dem dont even shite pun ya
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Aint that the truth. We have had reports of certain young men going before the law courts of Barbados for stealing large sums of money from various institutions, and we have seen mainstream media reports on these incidents along social class lines.
case in point, Raul Ward stole large sums of money from Sagicor the story was carried without one photo of Mr. Ward.
Randolph Sandiford stole 300,0000 belonging to the crown, and his photo was publish.
Whats the difference? Raul Ward is from the heights and Randolph is from Spooners Hill.
This current Barbados government via it’s powfull foolish Minister of Foreign affairs and it’s Prime Minister, once from the floor of parliament, accused the United States government of threatening to invade Barbados much as they did Iraq. Otto Reich and others have not forgotten, the stupidity of that incident,… they further took to treating the former US ambassador like school child over a mix up of arms arriving at GAIA and which were destine for another caribbean country. This GoB has always held a hostile position towards a friendly nation, and this revalation of citizens of Barbados breaking the Immigration laws of the US and being known to the Government, and the government withholding this information for 10+ years speaks to the low value that they have of any relationship with the US. I think in the least the US should withhold the promise aid to the caribbean nations in helping to resettle their deported citizens. I can also remember the treatement that Jennifer Lazzlo a US citizen recieved at the hands of this current GoB. The demonstrated practices of this regime are clear in how it percieves and treat to it’s relationship with the U.S.A.
Post the article let me see if the Federal authorities will ignore it.
You don’t think the Ishmeal Roett mp BLP St.Micheal Central is the one calling for the Trinidad 12 day rule to be brought to bare in Barbados Parliament and on a specific Private Members resolution, that happens to be a No confidence motion? Well what are you thinking?????
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I do not have that opinion. He just mentioned the Trinidadian issue, but he was not trying to motivate any one to bring a motion to correct the problem. Surely, he would be committing speaker’s suicide if he try to in cooperate a time-rule motion within a no-confidence motion.
Just a reminder, I do not have any agenda, and I am far from being partisan.
Cou Cou & Flying Fish – Keeping it on the down
Published on: 12/1/07.
AFTER A CERTAIN MEETING earlier this week it is unlikely that there will be much exposure given to a certain grouping in the next few weeks.
Cou Cou understands a big boy was summoned, on Monday and told of a grouping which was seemingly always in the face of the people.
According to inside sources, the big boy was told that it was becoming “too much” and that the time had come to cut back on the exposure since it was a delicate time.
From now on, the speaker said, “you cannot put abroad certain things!”
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Who is being discuss here? Any ideas on who the players to whom the article refers???
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WRONG MAN IN POST
THE ELDERS do not believe that the current boss has picked the right man for the job in a certain riding.
They believe he has been tried once too many times without a positive result and he should have sat this one out.
The individual in question, however, rates himself like a fast bowler who was one of the few West Indians with enough heart to take on the Australians in that ill-fated 1975 to 1976 tour.
The truth is that he must have a strong heart, having gone under more than once already.
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Who is being discuss here? Is this about John Boyce DLP 3 time looser at the polls??? Who???
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OUT OF THE LIMELIGHT
DON’T BE SURPRISED if a well-known face in certain circles disappears from the scene for a few months.
Cou Cou understands that the person in question is more than a bit concerned about what has been taking place in his stomping ground where a certain lover boy has been making the rounds.
Don’t wait on the whistle to blow, this guy is giving himself a red card.
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Who is being discuss here? Is it Ronald Jones or Jerome Walcott? I think it is Ronald Jones, as i have heard some reports that are similar to the gossip in this article,…plus whistle and Red cards are soccer signals which is Jones is linked too.
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MONEY MAKER
A CERTAIN CAMPAIGNER has come into a lump sum of money that he never expected.
Apparently, a benefactor is disappointed that the insiders have not given him the support he expected for a project close to his heart, and so he is ready to switch sides.
It was a low moment for the insiders since the financier had quite a few bucks to share around provided he got the backing he desired for his project.
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Who is being discuss here??? This sounds like something going on in the Deacons farms, any ideas?
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IT’S HOT IN HERE
A WELL-KNOWN personality whom one would expect to be in the clear, is reportedly in the red.
And sources say this could spell trouble for his future in his chosen field.
An early favourite to take the cake in a St Michael riding, this silky-voiced campaigner has reportedly bitten off more than he could chew and is finding it hot even when standing in the shade.
It has now reached the stage that every time he pays his bills, it must be legal tender.
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Oh please tell me that Chris Sinclear isn’t in money troubles, …..how could that be??????
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A ONE-TIME PARTY FAITHFUL is saying it will be licks like pepper in a certain St Michael riding in which she was once interested.
Sources told Cou Cou that this damsel in distress is not at all happy with her former bossman and has decided to switch sides.
Then again, what is a rice and stew if there is no pepper.
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Marilyn Rice Bowen is now a Bee???? wow.
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DISAPPEARING ACT
NOTICE THAT a certain heavyweight has not been on recent platforms?
Well, insiders report that the big-ups are not certain what position this pint-sized dynamo will take once he steps onto the stage.
Guess they have decided to let sleeping dogs lie.
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Is Dennis Kellman thinking of starting his foolishness again????
I love this gossip column,…..but why the onesided focus today???? you mean to say that even you are now caught up in partisan politics? Let we hear bout some uh de tings gine on in de BLP. Um all can’t be rosey and well in there. 😀
Someone speaking to Denis last week says he was feeling surrounded, and things should be made clearer this week.
Adrian, Denis Kellman has been responsible and effective as an MP and on the DLP platforms. This is typical of puddin’ and souse gossip. Denis Kellman was down to speak on Sunday and he spoke in Fitts Village too.
Don’t let that worry you. I hear all politicians saying they are frustrated all the time. Opposition politics is not easy but the Dems will soon be in government. Mark my words.
i personally feel dum shud tek saddam body and tie strings on he and mek he prime minister of buhbadus, call all dum is nuttin but puppets.
i am a strong blp supporter, but ta tell de truth, dum still int clean, but i guess daz human nature, always want to live above dum standards, if ya pay dum $20 a munt, dum gon buy a lil 13 inch Tv, if ya pay dum $1000 a munt, dum gonna buy a 60 inch plasma, always rememba dem politrickions like ta know dem living big life, but wait and see when hard times start ta hit man, dum int gonna got na big boy nor lil boy, from drought like wa de usa got now, ta famine, den diseases, and man gonna be just fuh heself mo dan how um is
thompy cant stop doing wa he doing bcos uh 2 tings, one is dat ya must got a oppasition fuh a elecshun, and two he is a politicul assbert.
i gon share dis lil cartoon wid wunna watch um and laff wunna belly full
thompson and he hardwood
sum uh wunna mussie see dis but still watch um
http://www.kadriwalcottonline.com/blog/?p=14
Kadri,
Now THAT is damn HILARIOUS!!!!
🙂
We have two new sets of trouble – Carmel & Mooze or Carmel is Mooze.
frankology for once we agree.
They need to addressed and dealt with.
lol if wunna gone fight at least lemme get some pop corn ya
This kind of activity is always hard to prove as the action and interaction of married persons differ depending on circumstances in their lives. This could be one of the many reasons the investigation is 10 years old and nothing has come of it to date. BU I think you have to be careful about this topic because it may just sound juicy because of who the person/s are now but would we have taken a second look at it if this was a story about some plan Joe.
Immigration has a job to do and I for one think persons need to follow the law and go about gaining their status in a law abiding manner but I find we are quick to attack non nationals and even more so if the person is from the Caribbean region when it come to migration. We haven’t seen the document only BU has so until I see clear evidence pointing to reasons why they think these persons are connected to any wrong doing I don’t care to know who it is. I think to often speculation and personal opinions of a writer get printed and this taken as fact / the gospel truth by the reader. I’m just saying this in general not talking about any writer or reader in particular.
http://www.kadriwalcottonline.com/blog/?p=14
So Kardi beyond its comedic value is there anything else about this video clip you have notice? Is the comedic value only at the expense of Thompson? Or can you implicate if not include Mia Mottley?
1: by noting that the first voice over use to poke fun at David Thompson is the Mia’s voice?
2: The first Question at the very beginning “GOT WOOD? Seems to be question that Mia Mottley is asking of Thompy?
3: That the twin peak mountains or hills that Thompy is seen traversing are in truth and in fact Mia Mottley breast, and the green peaks are indicative of her, overflowing, with lust and want of a Man,.. This is an innate need that she has continually denied herself.
4: Freud has a lot to say that I think explains Mia confusion with this video, her subconscious denial of her innate needs and wants are being manifested in her obsessive concentration on thompy’s wood, stick and limbs. So to her she thinks she is making fun of Thompy, but to me she is unwillingly letting out her repress feelings.
….Thompy does not meet with Mia Mottely behind the Speaker’s chair again. 😀
This kind of activity is always hard to prove as the action and interaction of married persons differ depending on circumstances in their lives.
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Difficulty in so doing should never be seen as impossible, and so you can find interesting ways to lessen it’s occurence.
US immigration laws demands that a marriage of the kind being discuss here, to be consummated. The burden of proof is on you. There is also a wait period, and there must a collection of evidence to substantiate a legally entered union, including and not limited too, joint banking, investments accounts, mortgage etc, references from notable persons in the community, including notary publics (US justice of the peace) etc.
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This could be one of the many reasons the investigation is 10 years old and nothing has come of it to date. BU I think you have to be careful about this topic because it may just sound juicy because of who the person/s are now but would we have taken a second look at it if this was a story about some plan Joe.
The real reason it is 10 years old, is to be found in the beginning sentences of the first three paragraphs of the so called smoking gun evidence.
Paragraph 1:
“I have been given some reliable information about…..”
Paragraph 2:
“He is the one who engineered a legal document for…..”
Paragraph 3:
“I have been informed that presently Mr. X is in financial trouble”
This smoking gun document is written by the typical hi-fuh-lootin Bajan who thinks Job title and station in society affords them the right to make equally hi-fuh-lootin statements to be masquerade as the truth. There is no corroborating evidential document to substantiate the remainder of the comments that followed the above hearsay beginning sentences. This is assuming that it is indeed a real document from the Dept. listed on it. I say assumed because this smoking gun document has as much authenticity as a Nigerian scam email. Therefore I believe that it could have easily come by the same way that other smoking gun documents appeared on the BLP’s blog.
Duguid you know anything about this one? 😀
…..Rather than turn such a document over to my Congressman and Senator as proof of wrong doing on anyone’s part I am more incline to turn it over to the subject of what is to my mind pure hearsay.
Until proven otherwise, I will believe that this came straight from the BLP.
I will not speculate. What I do know is that those who live in glass stones ought not to throw stones. This said, I invite you to relate to the following:
Do you remember when Philip Greaves was Leader of the House and his presence did not go unnoticed over a number of no-confidence motions? Do you remember his soul-searching words (not sure he has a soul with the series of public about turns he has been known to make) when attempting to defend his political ally in Brandford Taitt? Greaves said that allegations which culminate in a parliamentary censure of the Minister and Member of Parliament “are things which are very damaging to people and I think we have to be very careful with following up rumours and elevating rumours and innuendoes to a position of fact and then proceeding on that basis to prosecute some person without any clear evidence.” It seems that on the 2nd of December 2007, these words no longer have meaning. Believe it or not, this is the very Greaves that took apart Dr. David Estwick, presumably based upon some modicum of a principle, on national radio (VOB) about two years ago. Where have those principles for his jaundiced understanding of fair play and political ethics disappeared? Is the rhetoric we hear today from this man Philip Greaves who considers himself an ‘elder’ in the DLP?
Let us go further and make some connections with the self-created debacle that Thompson is so busy trying to challenge the BLP, the Prime Minister, and Clyde Mascoll, not on the basis of fact but on innuendo and ridiculous technicalities. Does going to places like Deacon’s and Fitts Village not contradict the point that Greaves makes when Greaves convincingly said that “because they [politicians] have access to the newspapers of this country, they feel they can destroy people’s characters, as they have been doing in a number of editorials in this country on this particular matter and on other matters. I am saying that this kind of attitude, this kind of approach, is wrong and we should not as parliamentarians encourage that kind of behaviour or development in our political system.” It sounds almost as if Greaves was trying to teach David Thompson a lesson then and now. Has the course of ethical direction changed because Greaves is no longer a parliamentarian? Thank God that Greaves, Taitt, and other persons of the same ilk have gone. It is very likely that Barbadians and the DLP may be much better off without the fluctuating tongues of Greaves and the current excuse for a political leader in Thompson.
While Thompson came on VOB Sunday’s Brass Tacks (2nd December 2007) and promulgated again in public with what he deems to be political savvy, Barbadians were exposed to another fact that the pastor misrepresented his conversations and discussions with the Deputy Prime Minister and Leader of Government Business in the House. Lest we forget, it was Greaves back then in 1993 that concluded “it is important that we do not use the occasion [in serious parliamentary debate or the general public forums afforded politicians] … to destroy people and to convey the wrong impression to the public.” I wonder if Thompson knows that he is masquerading as a statesman when he is but a mere inheritor of fortune. The case against Thompson’s perpetrations and oral infelicities are substantial enough that Messieurs Kellman, Sealy, Jones, Lashley, and Estwick should be gathering at the time of writing in the hope of finding a man of integrity and truth to lead them in the next general election, unless they too want to be painted with the same confusing and circuitous brush.
Adrian Hinds // December 2, 2007 at 1:18 am
….Thompy does not meet with Mia Mottely behind the Speaker’s chair again.
Reply:
This seems to be a favourite meeting spot for these two…
Mr. Resilient, the problem with you all is that you have David Thompson stuck in your craw. Why?
Face it, he is a master strategist. I have to give it to him. He has public support and he created a storm in a teacup that overtook the whole country.
And he has taken out Mascoll to boot!
And, Leviticus, he has the whole country talking and has raised an issue that has the highest number of hits on this site.
Wow!!
Leviticus ….Face it, he is a master strategist. I have to give it to him. He has public support and he created a storm in a teacup that overtook the whole country.
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Ha ha … Somebody acually believe tha TOM PEE is a master strategist.
You need to be more analytical. After 20 years in the HOA what has TOM PEE to show to suggest that he is a master of anything?
After winning Barrow safe seat as a young man what has TOM PEE to show to the people of St. John? You must remember that TOM PEE took over ST. John when the DLP was in Government and was enjoying its largest Mandate. What is his achievement?
TOM PEE became a Minister of Finance and this master strategise presided over the worst period of economic management know to this country.
TOM PEE the master strategist became leader of the DLP and then lead them to the worst defeat ever.
TOM PEE the master strategist is the only leader of the DLP that had to borrow money to run an election and still owes bills up to this time.
TOM PEE the master startegist go rid of Patrick Todd to replace him with Pandor.
TOM PEE the master startegist brought in Jennifer Lazlo to work along side Hartley
And now you admit that this master startegist, after all the talk about Hardwood has only created a storm in a teacup. So Much for re-branding, so little for strategy