Submitted by Dr. GP
- It is very common to hear folk trying to locate various sayings in the Bible which do not exist there at all.
- Many sayings have developed throughout the years by a variety of means.
- Scripture supports the purposes of some of the sayings while contradicting others.
I don’t know if the sun will rise
I don’t know if I’ll be around tomorrow
I don’t know
If I’m around then I’ll try to do
all the good things that a man should want to do
Will this mind of mine will think what’s good to think
Yes my mind would
I would be good and kind to all my fellow men
I would smile at all things that should make me frown
yes I would
If I could only see tomorrow
But I don’t know if the sun will rise
How do I know if I am going to see tomorrow
No I don’t know
If I do then I’ll try to do all the good things that a man should want to do
Did you thank God for showing you that you were wrong about Trump and are no analyst of any merit
It’s a simple prayer to say thank you for lessons that you were and are well and truly really wrong
I may be wrong, but, I can’t remember ever seeing in the Bible, a saying that people often associate with it: “God helps those who helps themselves.”
It is not necessary to see any saying in the Bible. The stories have these sayings as the take aways/ as the moral of the story. Jesus is reported to have healed most people after they did something for themselves . Like having fish and barley loaves. Dipping into the river at a certain time. Putting water into stone troughs etc. Man always has to do the doing.
Definition: Something powerful and monstrous in size (i.e. a creature, multinational corporation, etc.).
Job 40:15 (NLT) “Take a look at Behemoth, which I made, just as I made you. It eats grass like an ox.”
Is a behemoth a dinosaur?
Multinational corporations probably didn’t exist back then!!
RE I may be wrong, but, I can’t remember ever seeing in the Bible, a saying that people often associate with it: “God helps those who helps themselves.”
YOU ARE CORRECT ARTAX
THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY ANYWHERE “God helps those who helps themselves.”
IN FACT SUCH A THOUGHT IS CONTRADICTED BY ROMANS 4: 4 TO 5 AND TITUS :5
RE Jesus is reported to have healed most people after they did something for themselves . THIS IS RUBBISH, AND VYOU CAN NOT SUPPORT THIS BY ANY SCRIPTURE RIGHTLY DIVIDED IN ITS CONTEXT
RE Man always has to do the doing. YEAH JUST LIKE WHEN HE DIED ON THE CROSS RIGHT? ORT WHEN HE AROSE FROM THE DEAD, RIGHT?
Yes. Jesus had to make the choice.
And yes. One has to cooperate with God. i.e obey. Love your neighbour in the same manner as you love yourself. When one does that one loves God. God is LOVE. So we must not only read the Bible one must understand what it says. It is not a matter of a quiz or word game. That is a very primitive approach.
@ GP November 8, 2020 11:38 PM
Since you, the religious-‘know-it-all’, like to demonstrate complete knowledge of the Bible and perfect interpretations of Yahweh’s thoughts, why not tell us what Jesus is trying to tell people like you in the Parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector?
What did Jesus mean in John 8:44?
re So we must not only read the Bible one must understand what it says. It is not a matter of a quiz or word game. That is a very primitive approach.
I OFTEN HURT MY BDOMINAL OBLIQUES LAUGHING AT THE CONCENTRATED RUBBISH WRITTEN ON SSS BY OBVIOUS BU BIBLE ILLITERATES WHO ARE OUT OF THEIR LEAGUE
SERIOUS SOLID SOUND STUDENTS OF THE BIBLE OFTEN DO WORD STUDIES AS THEY SEEK TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE WORD OF GOD
For example, the New Testament uses three different words to describe the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
(i) The commonest is parousia, a word which has come into English as it stands. It is used in Matthew 24:3; Matthew 24:27; Matthew 24:39; 1 Thessalonians 2:9; 1 Thessalonians 3:13; 1 Thessalonians 4:15; 1 Thessalonians 5:23; 2 Thessalonians 2:1; 1 Corinthians 15:23; 1 John 2:28; 2 Peter 1:16; 2 Peter 3:4. In secular Greek this is the ordinary word for someone’s presence or arrival. But it has two other usages, one of which became quite technical. It is used of the invasion of a country by an army and specially it is used of the visit of a king or a governor to a province of his empire. So, then, when this word is used of Jesus, it means that his Second Coming is the final invasion of earth by heaven and the coming of the King to receive the final submission and adoration of his subjects.
(ii) The New Testament also uses the word epiphaneia (Titus 2:13; 2 Timothy 4:1; 2 Thessalonians 2:9). In ordinary Greek this word has two special usages. It is used of the appearance of a god to his worshipper; and it is used of the accession of an emperor to the imperial power of Rome. So, then, when this word is used of Jesus, it means that his Second Coming is God appearing to his people, both to those who are waiting for him and to those who are disregarding him.
(iii) Finally the New Testament uses the word apokalupsis (1 Peter 1:7; 1 Peter 1:13). Apokalupsis in ordinary Greek means an unveiling or a laying bare; and when it is used of Jesus, it means that his Second Coming is the laying bare of the power and glory of God come upon men.
Here, then, we have a series of great pictures. The Second Coming of Jesus is the arrival of the King; it is God appearing to his people and mounting his eternal throne; it is God directing on the world the full blaze of his heavenly glory.
In thier “primitive” approch to Bible study SERIOUS SOLID SOUND STUDENTS OF THE BIBLE OFTEN consult Wuest, Vine, Vincent (not the BU Bible illiterate) Barclay etc and other Greek and Hebrew scholars
Was reading one of my essays in one of my DMin courses 20 years ago, and found this
Because Bible reading novitiates can be led astray in their collateral reading it is imperative, in my opinion that they first get a good grasp and grounding of the truth of the Word, before engaging in the literary adventures which are often encountered in the maze of material presented by the theological dropouts who employ diabolical drivel at the devil’s demand. It is often very difficult to extirpate the deluded from the error of their ways.
Adverse critical comments about dating in the literature tends to encourage doubt; this is unnecessary because the setting of a date for Bible event is less relevant than the truths it teaches about God’s relationship with men. Often in Bible discussions and lectures, it is noticed that the devil often uses someone to disrupt and sidetrack the discussion with trivial questions. We must always be aware of this, and seek to counteract such by having an experienced moderator, who can deflect and defuse such annoyances. We must learn and teach those in our charges always to seek to put the emphasis where God puts it, and though acknowledging other facts, and problems in interpretation, set them in their correct perspective.
To illustrate, the first 11 chapters of Genesis covers perhaps 2000 years, the remainder of the chapter scarcely another 400, but the Spirit devotes more time to this period. Joseph is not one of the Patriarchs, but chapters 37, and 39-50 are devoted to him, because no one else in the Biblical narrative pictures Christ in as many respects as Joseph does—and Christ is after all the central character of the Scriptures. Joseph’s life shows that it is not totally impossible to be like the Lord. In addition, it is clear that by stressing the lives of persons like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, Joseph etc, the Spirit is teaching us that God is more interested in the lives of individuals and their response to his message rather than in the vast universe that He created. Thus it is that the Scriptures teach what shall it profit a man, if he should gain the whole world and lose his own soul. (Mark 8:36). Clearly then individuals and their souls is the focus of Biblical interest. Our command is thus to “ Go thou and do likewise!”
We must believe what the Bible teaches as the truth, and then fit other pieces of information that is relevant to help us appreciate the Bible narrative and not the other way around. Or approach is the Bible is correct unless we can prove otherwise. So far archaeology, and studies in all disciplines has not yet once proved the Biblical record incorrect.
Our attitude must be like that displayed by the disciples of Jesus in the incident recorded in John 2:18-22.What is most noteworthy about this incident is that both the disciples and the other Jews were given a sign by Jesus. Neither of these groups understood the significance of the sign. However a different response was exhibited by each of these groups. One group dismissed and REJECTED the sign and its Giver; the other group deferred their interpretation thereof, until they could better understand it later, because they had ACCEPTED the giver of the sign. The disciples were much like us, in that we often also fail to initially comprehend truths in God’s Word. But unlike the scoffing rejectors and critics of the Bible who discern “ contradictions therein and are willing to “wrest” them, we defer our opinion, because we accept the Author of the Scriptures and its inerrancy. Eventually, our indwelling resident tutor, the Holy Spirit clarifies our misunderstandings and resolves our intellectual conflict. The root of the difference of approach is either one of ACCEPTANCE or one of REJECTION. Likewise the differences in the approach by historians who handle Bible History or facts related therto is a direct result of their attitude of the relevance of , and the impact of the Bible on their lives. If the Bible is paramount and the primary source to us, we wait for God to shed light that will demonstrate the Bible’s viewpoint. Those who are rejectors of Biblical truth, tend to scoff or try to explain the apparent discrepancies so that they don’t sound or seem silly to a senseless world.
Something look askew about this parsing of the words, I wonder what that is?
@ GP November 9, 2020 10:19 AM
What did Jesus mean in John 8:44?”
All of that is encoded in the Gospel of Philip. Why don’t you comment on the “Word” of your God Yahweh according to Philip or Mary of Magdalena?
When you arrive at the truth that many of the ‘things’ attributed to the cult leader Joshua of Nazareth can be found in the Egyptian steles dedicated to Horus then you will understand why Jesus was nothing more that the ‘plagiarized’ Pagan Christ.
No one believes in GP’s God.
GP’s God will make you a lame brain.
My God’s better than that.
My God’s got Soul.
found this while researching something completely different …….but this is relevent here
this phrase ‘God will never give us more than what we can handle,’ is often used when someone is facing life challenges, suffering, and trials. Based on the Bible, is this phrase biblically correct?”
Two Essential Words
Whether that statement — “God will never give us more than what we can handle” — is biblically correct depends on what we mean by we and handle.
What does we mean? Does we mean God takes into account our independent possibilities based on our track record of handling trouble and, thus, measures out that trouble to us so that it doesn’t go beyond what we — independently, by our own resources — can handle? Is that what we means?
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Or, does we mean that we can handle it if we receive it by faith in divine assistance, and that God knows what he himself will give us by grace in enabling us to handle what he gives us? So, he is not thinking of we as independent, but we as dependent on the grace that comes with the difficulty. Which of those two does this statement ask about?
What does handle mean? Does handle mean you never collapse under it? Does it mean you never fail in any task? Does it mean you never mess up? Does it mean you never fail to get a B+ on every one of life’s tests?
Or, does handle mean that you never fail so that you never recover or repent or restore reconciliation, and that you are finally lost because you failed? Which does handle mean?
Dependent on Grace
To answer all of that and to give my answer to the question, let’s just look at the key texts that I think he probably has in mind. 1 Corinthians 10:13: “No temptation” — or test, since it is the same word in Greek — “has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted [tested] beyond your ability [beyond what you are able], but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.”
When Paul says that God won’t give what is beyond what you are able, he means not beyond what you are able with God’s help. We know that because of a couple of other things he says. For example, in 2 Corinthians 9:8 he says, “God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that having all sufficiency in all things at all times, you may abound in every good work.”
In other words, in every test or temptation, the question is, Will I do what I ought to do? Paul says, “There will be grace.” He does not merely say, “I am depending on you to use your resources without depending on grace.” Rather, God is telling us, “I am giving you grace so that there will be grace to do it, but you are not independent of my powers to help.”
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Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:10, “But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace toward me was not in vain. On the contrary, I worked harder than any of them, though it was not I, but the grace of God that is with me.” In other words, if I survive any test or accomplish any work when I am tested, it is grace, decisively grace — not decisively me.
So, my answer to the first query — What does we mean in the statement “God will never give us more than what we can handle”? — is that we means we who are helped by sovereign grace, not we independent of the power of God’s help.
Then the question is, What does handle mean? Does it mean never stumble, never fail, never get a C- or an F on a particular test that God gives? My answer is no. It doesn’t mean that. If we had perfect reliance on all that he is for us in Christ, we would pass every test glowingly, but God does not promise that kind of perfect reliance on his omnipotent grace.
Well then, what is being promised when he says that we will always have, with every test, an escape and when he says that we will have grace for every good work? I think what is promised is ultimately this: God will never let us so stumble or so fail that we don’t recover and repent and are restored. In other words, he will never let us sin our way into apostasy and damnation. He will enable us to bear the fruits of genuine faith and perseverance to the end.
Here are the texts that make me think that:
Philippians 1:6: “He who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.”
Romans 8:30: “Those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.” He is going to keep you.
Luke 22:31–32: “Simon, Simon,” Jesus says to Peter, “behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat [or, get your faith out of you], but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers.” In other words, I prayed for you. Yes, you are going to deny me tonight, but I am bringing you back. You are going to get an F on this test tonight, and I am going to make you pass your life-test.
1 Peter 1:5: “By God’s power [we] are being guarded through faith for a salvation.” God’s power is guarding me. He won’t let me fail in any test utterly.
1 Corinthians 1:8: “[He] will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
So, here’s my conclusion. “God will never give us more than what we can handle” — is that biblically correct? Yes, if we mean God will never give his people trials in which he will not sustain them and bring them through to everlasting glory. We will be enabled to do all we must do to get there.
AS CLEARLY TAUGHT IN 1 CORINTHIANS 10:13
“‘God will never give us more than what we can handle”
GP as mentioned you are no analyst
and are a pedantic anal analist
(it has also been mentioned that you are a plagiariser and cut and paster)
the simple deduction
is that things in life should not be divided into good and bad
as both contain important lessons to be learned
when you go through shit you learn important from it
for example you stated that God gave Trump as King of Amerikkka
but he represented the racism and every bad trait of Americans
you were wetting your panties about how sad BU posse would feel when he won as per your deluded prophecy hypothesis wrong prediction bet
now here’s a nidra meditation for your contemplation for inner peace and relaxation
think of a manifestation for your meditation (such as the rapture)
now think of an ideal situation in you past which you want for the future (such as Trump election and a reelection)
meditate on your ideal situation (Trump reelection) and how it feels and affects your inner being and hapiness
now meditate on the opposite of your ideal situation (Biden Presidency) and imagine your inner being feeling same