If the late great Gladston Holder were alive he would take the opportunity to remind us that it does not matter who is elected to the White House, it the wealthiest families in the USA where the power is located- the Vanderbilts, Rockefellers et al. That said many will agree party colours aside, Trump’s legacy will be remembered as being one of the most bigoted and divisive.
Let it be no secret this blogmaster cannot wait to see the back of the man. He has disgraced the office of president of the USA and by extension the human race.
Discuss for 2 marks.
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His other contributions are too numerous for me to list.
But, in case you want to hear some of them here’s Trump himself.
Let’s try that again… (Mr Blogmaster u can delete this replica above)…
@Lyall in reading your post above I was confounded by the part where you noted that “there are a number of claims made about a putative US Election scam in the video that seems, at first blush, to provide substantive support for Guiliani’s evidence for fraudulent electronic changes to the ballots to support Biden” SERIOUSLY!
I have NOT read or listened to any of their ‘evidence’ … rather I have responded to the TRUMP appointed officials in the US govt who are DUTY bound to 1) justly serve the US and 2) do yet have a strong interest in his remaining in power in a non-fraud election.
Those key officials like the AG and Director of the Cyber Security office and leaders at the FBI have bluntly refuted exactly what is being presented by this ‘first blush substantive support’ as you term it.
BOTH of these positions cannot be accurate… I believe those who are NOT in the habit of making outlandish claims and spreading disinformation!
Will reach 3000 by sunday.
Heard this as joke
Global warming, Isis, 911, pandemic, trimp, sexual harassment, pandemic …
If you are a christian, then you have to admit, if there a god, he is in over his head
Brilliant.
@John
You’re early, The Flat Earth Society’s meeting is tomorrow night.
BALAAM
YOUR POSTS ARE GETTING SHORTER, LESS COHERENT, AND LACKING IN RELEVENT SUBSTANCE. THEY STILL EVINCE THAT YOU ARE INDEED A GREATER JACKASS THAN BALAAM’S ASS. WHAT NEWS ARE YOU WATCHING, READING AND LISTENING TOO.
John December 3, 2020 8:26 PM #: “Did you miss the part about Barbados being Blacklisted by the EU?”
Please explain in ONE CONTRIBUTION and NOT several one or two line posts, what is the correlation between the blacklisting by the EU and SGO Smartmatic and Dominion both sharing a physical address in a small building in Barbados as its registered headquarters?
RE: “If Judges refuse to hear the evidence before them in a Court of law, there is always the Court of Public opinion!!”
Could you please give the forum examples, (preferably in ONE contribution) of Judges refusing to hear the evidence before them in a Court of law?”
Surely there’s a difference between a Judge refusing to hear evidence or ruling to dismiss evidence if it contravenes the rules or laws of evidence and is deemed inadmissible.
The problem with the “Court of Public opinion” is, its NOT a Court and, in this situation, these hearings before the State Legislatures only serve to appease Trump supporters. The evidence presented by witnesses was presented as truth.
We must recognise human beings are not perfect and will make mistakes from time to time. Some people are even willing to fabricate testimony sworn under oath in Court, which may be done to support one side. But, as I mentioned previously, there is often one or more version or perspective of the truth. That’s why there is a process that allows both sides to question witnesses. Hence, cross-examination is one of the legal system’s essential means for testing the evidence so as to find ascertain the truth. Justice cannot be achieved without the right to cross-examination
Impeachment proceedings have some similarities to a trial. The impeached individual has a right to conduct his/her own defense with his/her attorneys and witnesses are examined and cross-examined.
RE: “So, suppose the State Legislatures decide that the evidence before them is enough to overturn the certification of the executive.”
Are you suggesting the Legislatures can make a decision to overturn the certification of the executive, based on evidence that was not examined and favours Trump? If so, then that system isn’t fair.
@de pedantic Dribbler December 3, 2020 9:28 PM
This is all part of the strategy to get the elections in those states either declared in favour of Trump or null and void before time runs out on December 14 for the clead when the electoral college meets otherwise things can start to get messy.
Trump’s strategy to win is
1) Getting the best case(s) to the US Supreme Court where they will present every single piece of evidence they have at that time for the decisive judgement applicable to all states that fit the bill. This matter was always a US Supreme Court case with the lower courts only slowing things down. A similar situation would have occurred in the Guyana election which everyone knew it has to go before the CCJ in the end but there is a process to get there.
2) Present enough information to the legislature in full view of the public so they can use the powers they have to make the election declarations outright.
3) Raise public awareness on the massiveness of the fraud to garner more widespread public understanding and support since the main news media are not doing their jobs and properly reporting on these proceeding.
This video presented at one of the legislature hearings has to be one of many such examples of fraud they plan to present at the US Supreme Court.
ArtaxDecember 3, 2020 11:06 PM
John December 3, 2020 8:26 PM #: “Did you miss the part about Barbados being Blacklisted by the EU?”
Please explain in ONE CONTRIBUTION and NOT several one or two line posts, what is the correlation between the blacklisting by the EU and SGO Smartmatic and Dominion both sharing a physical address in a small building in Barbados as its registered headquarters?
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Dog with a bad name.
If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck!!
@Critical, it is all part of the strategy to make outlandish claims like 35,000 electronic votes being made for every single Dem ballot; to claim that 10s of 1,000 of votes were switched electronically although there are no corresponding paper ballots to support that; to claim that 1,000s of fraudalently completed ballots were driven across states lines and procesaed at a PO for delivery.
It is your contention that these COMPLETELY unsubstantiated claims (so say the Justice Dept and US cybersecurity office) will get to SCOTUS and those members and the women of that court will be so beholden to Trump that they will destroy careers based on careless analysis of the LAW; and also dismiss their originalist interpretation of the constitution to OVERTURN the determinationa of 74 million people to appease a lawless President and his 70 million supporters.
You further perceive that in the face of that absolute coup that POTUS would actually be allowed to GOVERN by the angry masses!
You are clearly critically devoid of any realistic reasoning sensibilities to reach that level of analysis!
Carry on smartly.
ArtaxDecember 3, 2020 11:06 PM
The problem with the “Court of Public opinion” is, its NOT a Court and, in this situation, these hearings before the State Legislatures only serve to appease Trump supporters. The evidence presented by witnesses was presented as truth.
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Government of the people, by the people, for the people!!
Basic stuff.
The Court of Public Opinion is all that matters.
The Court of Public Opinion elects members of the Legislature which has the final say in the choice of Electors.
Judges are appointed.
They don’t speak for the people, the Legislature does and so it has the final say.
It is also why a Judge will say there is no way he/she will overturn an election.
But the Legislature can but it better have very good evidence!!!
The video in Georgia is pretty good … some would say, conclusive.
de pedantic DribblerDecember 4, 2020 12:06 AM
You further perceive that in the face of that absolute coup that POTUS would actually be allowed to GOVERN by the angry masses!
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Junior, Junior, Junior
The angry masses would become more angry if the Constitution is not followed.
Hence the adults are looking at the election to determine if it is flawed and if the Constitutional provisions, rarely used, need to be invoked.
Who ever ends up being sworn in on 20th January, will be sworn in based on the Constitution.
The adults will ensure this happens..
In the adult scheme of things, Phantoms and Zombies don’t count.
Relax, let the big people do their thing.
Barbados getting its name mentioned again in Georgia.
ArtaxDecember 3, 2020 11:06 PM
Are you suggesting the Legislatures can make a decision to overturn the certification of the executive, based on evidence that was not examined and favours Trump? If so, then that system isn’t fair.
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Yes.
That’s how I understand everything I have seen and read relating to the Constitution.
They can also declare the election void, and it sounds like they can call members of the Executive to account.
Depends on the evidence presented to them.
Now, if their decision is challenged in court (unlikely because of the Constitution) the Electoral votes remain in dispute.
Same result if the votes are in dispute on D – day!!
All the Legislature may need to say on D – day (D – 0) is that the votes are in dispute.
@John the Barbados Scholar
The reason why many here do not read or take your comments with lots of salt is because you lie or are ignorant. The EU blacklisting was caused by Barbados tardiness updating required legislation.
Try to post comments that add value instead of âposting like running sick nigger botsyâ.
Did anyone hear any rumours re granting of pardons? I heard Trump is poised to deliver no less than 20 pardons to family, friends and associates just in time for Xmas (and who says there is no Santa Claus?). Among the lucky ones would be the father son combo of Jared and Charles Kushner and Trump himself. Someone points out the irony of Trump possibly pardoning his children when he spent so much time alleging criminal activity by Biden’s son Hunter
No wonder Barr is hoping to get out of this mess it must be more than he signed up for and he may want to revise the answer to a question that was posed to him a little while ago “How do you think history will judge you?” His answer “It depends on who is writing the history”. No matter who writes the history of the Trump Administration Barr is going to appear as a total toady who was willing to subvert the rules in support of a President.
@Sargeant
Trump is an embarrassment.
Watch the rats and RHINOs that jumped off the supposedly sinking Trump Presidential ship start swimming hard trying to catch back the ship before it leave them to drown.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/brian-kemp-georgia-brad-raffensperger-signature-audit
#nutjobs
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“Trump is an embarrassment.”
a lot of idiots voted for the racist populist idiot
all you got to do is say you will shit on coloureds and the crowds start cheering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jptR_YwCs3o
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To think the #nutjobs are planning holiday parties where no masks will be required.
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Chickens coming home to roost!!
@John
You invoke the name of good to satisfy personal expediency?
#thought
#word
#deed
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@Blogmaster and @Sargeant, these pardon plans are quite confounding and hard to sensibly wrap reason around … in the simple sense of how do you preemptively give a pardon for perceived crimes!
In the case of Nixon it was crystal clear what ‘crimes’ he had committed as he was facing various impeachment charges one of which was obstruction of justice for his direct involvement in a criminal act .
Forde gave him a pardon before he was charged for anything but his ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ were well known at that time.
What in the name of natural justice, decency, rule of law and freaking reason is this man purporting to pardon Guiliani, Kushner Jr, his sons or other aides for … what crimes have they committed????
Gerald Forde paid the price of grand political defeat in the Presidential elections, it has been written, for his practical action of pardoning a crooked President … Forde himself was a law abiding and reasonably just man. .. . But here we have baying masses encouraging these incredulous recommendations and this ‘crooked’ president considering them being heralded wildly and even being encouraged to go after an unprecedented nonconsecutive second term in office.
Are we all crazy!
These are the same people who campaigned on ‘draining the swamp’ of shady political graft and self-dealing but clearly didnt tell us that they intended to build for us a gilded Trump-branded bayou infested with bigger crocodiles, nastier snakes and more power sucking remoras.
If this man can do ANY of these preemptive pardons and exit the WH with any political credibility intact then it’s clear that his cultism is absurdly dangerous …
But even if he issues pardons and his popularity tanks Pres Biden still needs to act rationally and prudently on investigations of his admin….
John December 4, 2020 12:34 AM #: “Yes. That’s how I understand everything I have seen and read relating to the Constitution. They can also declare the election void, and it sounds like they can call members of the Executive to account. Depends on the evidence presented to them.”
I’m having some difficulty accepting your interpretation of the US Constitution, especially as it relates to the handling of evidence.
Why not post the excerpts from the US Constitution you used as a basis to conclude the Legislature can make decisions based ONLY on evidence from ONE SIDE, which has NOT been tested.
Perhaps you should stop using the ‘one liners’ and offer the forum a thorough explanation.
IT AMAZES ME THAT BU BRIMBLERS KNOW EVATING BOUT EVATING IN THE USA BUT CANT ADDRESS THE ISSUES AT HOME . TRUMP IS NO AN EMBARRASSMENT THAN BEGGING MIA, OR FUMBLING FREUNDEL ETC
dpD
Hope this helps to explain my somewhat convoluted post to John.
Here’s what I said: … But there are a number of claims made about a putative US Election scam in the video that seems, AT FIRST BLUSH, to provide substantive support for Guiliani’s evidence for fraudulent electronic changes to the ballots to support Biden. However, you might have noted that the Systems expert, essentially admits that no firm proofs have been provided, just a number of unsubstantiated, disparate factoids that appear to support their case.
Fair enough @Lyall… I did read and get that ‘qualifying’ remark but the perspective that Guiliani has any type of ‘prima facie’ case was interesting (and provocative).
Of course, that’s exactly what they want and thus when @John parrots the legal nonsense (but reality solid) on court of public opinion popularity it establishes how successful that has been.
As your qualifier that “the Systems expert, essentially admits that no firm proofs have been provided” CLEARLY suggests there is ABSOLUTELY no legal prima facie case here. NONE.
But in the populist world massive fraud is afoot… many a war has been started based on less lies of these “unsubstantiated, disparate factoids”.
This is very dangerous state of affairs, as you have also succinctly suggested.
POTUS is absolutely a gargantuanly greater “EMBARRASSMENT THAN BEGGING MIA, OR FUMBLING FREUNDEL”.
How can our factoid size country leader- whose nation’s life is on 54 pages of this comparative political book- giving for example an apparent conflict-of-interest Knighthood to her father or offering a pardon (of sorts) to his Speaker by giving sotto voce support in a criminal matter compare to the leader of a country in the same book full of facts (alternate and real) filling 244 pages.
With their real IMPACT and INFLUENCE covering the entire 1,000 page book (so to speak) of modern life, how can that madman be on par to our comparative lilliputian leaders. 🙈
When reason and logic were dished some folks here used a wash-pan but didnt plug the damn holes in the bottom … all leak out now yah 😂 … some of us others still have our teacups (enamel or plastic, not crystal) of logic and reason fully intact! 😎🙈😂
I gone.
GP December 4, 2020 9:26 AM #: “IT AMAZES ME THAT BU BRIMBLERS KNOW EVATING BOUT EVATING IN THE USA BUT CANT ADDRESS THE ISSUES AT HOME.”
@ Dr. GP
Have you included John in your analysis, since he has been giving the forum the impression he’s an expert in US constitutional law, justice system, elections, role of the legislature, Senate, Congress, impeachment etc?
And, he usually tries to DISTRACT the forum AWAY from discussions “that address the issues at home,” to something about the USA and Donald Trump.
Although the ‘BU brimblers’ do offer as many comments as they post to articles about Trump and US politics, at least they remain focused on the topic when discussing local issues.
Or, have you excluded John because you and him share similar points of view?
BALAAMS ASS BRAYS INCOHERENTLY AND ILLOGICALLY AGAIN.
IT SEEMS THAT IF YOU ENJOY HOW TRUMP HAS SENT MYRIADS MAD IN RECENT TIMES, YOU ARE ILLOGICAL
I DONT CARE IF TRUMP IS AN EMBARRASSMENT, FOR WHAT HE DOES, DOES NOT AFFECT MY NATIVE LAND………..BUT BEGGING MIA DOES AND FUMBLING FREUNDAL DID, BIG TIME
LISTEN TO THIS HEE HAW
With their real IMPACT and INFLUENCE covering the entire 1,000 page book (so to speak) of modern life, how can that madman be on par to our comparative lilliputian leaders.
FIRST I MUST SAY THAT YOU AGREE THAT BEGGING MIA DOES AND FUMBLING FREUNDAL ARE LILLIPUTIAN LEADERS.LOL
ONES CAPACITY TO LEAD OR PERFORM IS NOT A FUNCTION OF THE SIZE OF THE COUNTRY FROM WHICH YOU COME
E.G THE GREATEST TEST CRICKET AROSE FROM THE TINY ISLAND OF BARBADOS
E.G ST LUCIA PRODUCED TWO NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS
E.G IN RELATIONSHIP TO ITS SIZE, BARBADOS HAS PRODUCED A LARGE NUMBER OF SUBLIME TEST CRICKETERS
E.G THOUGH BARBADOS IS A SMALL ISLAND IT HAS PRODUCED A GREATER JACKASS THAN EVEN BALAAM’S ASS
But you ain’t coming back to your native land, so why would you care?
RE IT AMAZES ME THAT BU BRIMBLERS KNOW EVATING BOUT EVATING IN THE USA BUT IT AMAZES ME THAT BU BRIMBLERS KNOW EVATING BOUT EVATING IN THE USA BUT CANT ADDRESS THE ISSUES AT HOME.”
THAT IS A STATEMENT THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED
BU BRIMBLERS CANT ADDRESS THE ISSUES AT HOME IN THE SENSE THAT THEY CANT FIX ANY OF THEM
THEY CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.
THAT IS A STATEMENT THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED
BU BRIMBLERS SHOULD FOLLOW JESUS’ ADVICE OF MATHEW 7:5 THUS
first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
LET US WORRY LESS ABOUT THE USA AND LET US SEEK TO FIX OUR PROBLEMS
He would not fit in because Barbadians wear masks.
@ lyallsmall: That systems expert, who is a consultant, is also looking for a contract by suggesting that his firm can find the fraud.
DavidDecember 4, 2020 7:34 AM
@John
You invoke the name of good to satisfy personal expediency?
#thought
#word
#deed
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I am giving thanks to God for another beautiful day and the senses to appreciate the beauty around me.
Also got some other blessings for which I am giving thanks.
de pedantic DribblerDecember 4, 2020 8:32 AM
If this man can do ANY of these preemptive pardons and exit the WH with any political credibility intact then it’s clear that his cultism is absurdly dangerous …
But even if he issues pardons and his popularity tanks Pres Biden still needs to act rationally and prudently on investigations of his admin….
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Junior
Who told you Trump is going anywhere?
Relax.
ArtaxDecember 4, 2020 10:58 AM
Have you included John in your analysis, since he has been giving the forum the impression he’s an expert in US constitutional law, justice system, elections, role of the legislature, Senate, Congress, impeachment etc?
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I have always said I was only a half a lawyer.
The problem is no one on BU has so far contested successfully my submissions on US constitutional law!!
Not one legal beagle.
So of course I appear to be an expert on US Constitutional law to people who won’t go and read or think for themselves.
… but I really am not.
I am the same half a lawyer as always!!
.. but, one of my secrets is, I listen to Rush Limbaugh routinely so am educated way beyond anyone who does not.
Actually, John, I have read, and heard several constitutionalists say the same exact things that you have posited.
i suppose that you and they are all completely wrong
if you are not afflicted with TDS, your mad, stupid, an abomination, a sinner and even a false preacher, and mocked!
This is how the suitcase video in Georgia came to light.
Lin Wood, a lawyer on the President’s team had to subpoena it on 24th November 2020.
https://www.oann.com/lin-wood-subpoenas-ga-officials-for-video-evidence/
So here it is again.
https://youtu.be/nVP_60Hm4P8?t=34
it can not be disputed that a lot of bobbol went on in this election by the democrats from to to bottom
what is amazing is that this is sanctioned here, on BU and elsewhere to get a result that they deserately desire
the same people that talk about morals and grabing female genitalia
A good Christian and scholarly perspective so far NOT supported by the Courts.
THE COURTS DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGE SITTING THEREON
THE MEN WHO SIT ON COURTS ESPECIALLY IN THE USA ARE OFTEN POLITICALLY APPOINTED , AND ACT OUT THERE OLITICAL PERSUASIONS
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOME FORWARD TO TELL WHAT THEY SAW ARE DISREGARDED BY THE COURTS, ON WHOM UNGODLY UNRIGHTEOUS POLITICAL JUDGES SIT
THERE IS MUCH MERIT AND LOGIC IN THIS PIECE OF PROSE
The problem with facts is that they can be interpreted differently by people with two completely different worldviews. In order to keep facts from being interpreted differently, they must be based on math, and they cannot have any kind of questionable opinions attached to them.
So, these facts become an accurate picture of events that no one can dispute or deny. And that is what is needed for the president to prove that Biden cheated.
These facts are coming to the surface, and it will take time to compile them all into an undisputable pile of truth. The testimonies of thousands of people from all over the country are similar in so many ways. Many observers tell the tale that they were kept out of the counting room, so they could not watch the counting.
The testimonies are coming out that ballots were altered in favor of Biden. These same people also have independently told how they saw officials taking blocks of votes for Trump and giving them to Biden. These testimonies are the same method of fraud and interference, just in different locations.
There should be enough facts to prove that fraud took place when there are that many compelling testimonies. The most substantial evidence so far is the pattern of behavior behind voting grounds. In every area, the Republicans were pulling ahead in just about every race. But then everything just stopped.
In the contested states, the counting stopped. The Democrats could not believe what was happening, so they stopped everything. It took hours for them to bring in their fake ballots to run through the machines.
The graphs show spikes in Biden’s numbers that number in the millions nationwide. That kind of thing just does not happen without there being some kind of cheating taking place.
The Democrats knew precisely where they needed to cheat in order to win. That is why they targeted the states that are now being contested in court. The vast difference in voting trends is entirely off from the rest of the nation.
The six states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, and Georgia were where the counting stopped, and the spikes showed up. The voting trends in these states are so vastly different from the other 44 states that one cannot help but think that there is something wrong.
The problem with the election is that millions of ballots mysteriously appeared after the counting had stopped. Then the count resumed when millions of ballots were discovered, and they were all for Biden.
These votes were spread all over the states. They were distributed in just enough quantities to allow Biden to squeak out a narrow win.
Statistics show that from this mysterious pile of ballots, 90 percent or more were for Biden, and the rest were for Trump. In one batch of 570,000 ballots, only 3,200 of them were for Trump.
And then there is the solid proof fraud happened when an entire city supposedly turned out to vote. That supposedly happened in eight different major cities.
But that is not the end of the matter. In Democratically controlled areas such as North Muskegon, there was 700 percent turnout, and over in Zeeland Charter Township, there was 400 percent voter turnout. Given that the national turnout everywhere else in the nation was 56 percent.
Biden is a man that everyone hated. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton never surpassed the 70 million mark for votes. But out of nowhere, here comes Biden, and he tags over 80 million votes. That only happens when cheaters recount the same ballots over and over again.
The Republicans won every race and more, but for some reason, they lost the Oval Office. That alone is an anomaly that needs to be investigated. The only way that could have happened is for cheaters to fill out Biden’s name on a ballot and turn it in multiple times.
There is no question that the Democrats cheated. They turned in millions of fake ballots and moved results around on the machines so they could win.
The facts and testimonies do not lie. They paint a clear picture of President Trump winning and Biden stealing it from him.