It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored … ye are a factious crew, and enemies to good government. … Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation. … I commend ye, therefore, … to depart immediately out of this place; get you out! Make haste. Go! … In the name of God, Go!
-Oliver Cromwell’s stinging dismissal of the members of the Rump Parliament
As a nation, we must face facts. The failure of the Integrity in Public Life Bill (2020) was not an isolated incident. Rather, it is the latest, and thus far, most heinous, episode in a two-year saga, designed by renegade ‘opposition’ forces to systematically destroy our democracy and destabilize our country.
Integrity in public life is not a fanciful expression. It is about giving shape to the hopes and aspirations of successive generations of Barbadians, who want honesty and financial probity to be the hallmark of their country’s governance; about restoring faith in apathetic young and middle-aged people who see the ‘system’ as being broken; and about securing the social and political bonds which bind together our nation, without which social cohesion collapses and soon the state.
In examining the threat posed by the renegades, it is useful to understand their tactics, deceit being the most favoured.
How could persons demand the inclusion of judicial officers in the Bill when all know that they are a peculiar species of public officer, always treated to separately?
How can the inclusion of civil servants be inappropriate? Are politicians the only persons with the facility for corruption or can corruption take place in both high and low places, from S1 to Z23? Why would a nation, ostensibly serious about corruption, wish only to ensure that some are not corrupt while others may do as they like?
Is it enough to take issue with the Bill for being too “intrusive” without understanding that by necessity, it must be so to close a well-known loophole, where relatives are used to hide ill-gotten gains. That is the price we have to pay for truly comprehensive and effective legislation.
Some assert that the Bill has not received sufficient ‘consultation’. How is that possible when nearly all are aware of its existence and when the previous version languished for a time on the Order Paper there was much ado about that delay? Now, two years on, some would like to delay the process even further!
Their last resort is the most tragic, for it is the hallmark of illiberal populists across the world: engendering a loss of trust for institutions. Indeed, since the unfortunate incident, epitomizing integrity, Senator Lisa Cummins apologized, with elegance and grace, not because she was a definite health risk, but because it could have been more appropriate for her to stay away.
Clearly, if some Senators feared for their safety, for whatever reason, they have a right to express that. However, what is grievous is the vituperative attacks on this country’s most senior medical doctor, under the cover of parliamentary privilege. At a time when this nation faces a pandemic, why would ‘public figures’ seek to maliciously discredit health professionals, whom the public must trust and listen to so that we can continue to wrestle with COVID? At a time when we face massive economic fallout, requiring a Herculean united effort to rebuild, who benefits from the sowing of needless division?
In the United States, when public figures discredit health professionals and spread falsehoods, many in the populace refuse to wear masks or follow other guidelines because of the irresponsible rhetoric of those in leadership. By seeking to destroy faith in institutions during a pandemic, these renegades sought to score cheap, political points at the expense of the health and welfare of citizens.
The actions in the Senate can have real consequences because it did not take place in a vacuum. The country was watching; young people were watching. How many will follow the dastardly example set, like has happened in the States?
Where is the integrity in these persons who wish to pass judgement on the integrity legislation?
Thankfully, government proceeded with a vote on the Bill so that the people of this country could finally recognize the existential threat posed by these renegades. We must protect our democracy which is under threat, not from genuine or useful opposition, but from individuals who are solely interested in destabilization.
All Barbadians must stand up and say to them: please, in the name of God, go!
@ KK
This is one of your worse pieces to date. Why have you chosen this topic which has been discussed ad nauseam. You are going to get the same arguments that were already put forward in a similar blog on BU.The fact that it was not passed is a testament to the fact that our democratic system of Governance is working. Our checks and balances kicked in. The Senate is the penultimate check point that allows us to take a second look at what we are doing. The final check point, as you know, will be the GG.
All the events point towards that gnawing feeling that this bill is not the most effective way of uprooting the perceived high level of corruption in the Public Service. Nor that perpetrators would reap their due reward if it is enforced. So there is a lack of trust. That is where we must start. Why do the citizens not trust the system? What do we need to do and put in place to restore the trust in the Justice system beside passing unenforced and unenforceable legislation?
Rather, it is the latest, and thus far, most heinous, episode in a two-year saga, designed by renegade ‘opposition’ forces to systematically destroy our democracy and destabilize our country.
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Cue the melodrama, Edward Bulwer- Lytton is alive
Meanwhile VC hangs up his cheerleading outfit and retires his pom- poms.
Khaleel is permitted to quibble about this that and the other why the Bill was not passed in the Senate (although it was have died anyway with prorogation), however, the real issue is that the leader of government business failed to gather consensus for the Bill. Wednesday highlights this failure.
Mr Kothdiwala
You are right to show those who thought that you were too young to be flogged on BU that you are just as combative as the “elders”.
I warned them about Napoleon and the pups on Animal Farm.
Show them what emerges from the puppy kennels in Roebuck and George Streets…….
Let them renegades know wuh coming Fuh dem !
De ole man notices that Koochie Koo is still being relied on by the other jackases to hoist the flags of defeat.
Among the accustomed effluent he released the manchile said
“…Indeed, since the unfortunate incident, epitomizing integrity, Senator Lisa Cummins apologized, with elegance and grace, not because she was a definite health risk, but because it could have been more appropriate for her to stay away…”
Not because she was a health risk?
Is not de Ghanian nurses testing Covid positive several days after testing negative AND AT VARIANCE TO ALL THE NORMS STATED BY THE “ACTING” CMO?
Emphasis on acting!
So why is the manchile allowed to make these untrue statements?
Oh Piece the Prophet has discerned the truth of the matter
Blog counts, this platform is to serve as De Manchile’s spring board so.
Nothing new here so de ole man will move onto other matters
Dr. Doolittle
@Whoever “How could persons demand the inclusion of judicial officers in the Bill when all know that they are a peculiar species of public officer, always treated to separately?”
Don’t bring no foolish argument about “peculiar species of public officer, always treated to separately?”
When slavery needed to be abolished self serving people brought the “this is a peculiar institution” foolish argument.
When universities refused to admit women there were foolish arguments about women being peculiarly unsuited for higher education
When Ignaz Semmelweis proposed the practice of washing hands with chlorinated lime solutions in 1847 while working in Vienna General Hospital’s First Obstetrical Clinic, where DOCTOR’S WARDS HAD THREE TIMES THE MORTALITY of midwives’ wards.there were foolish arguments about doctor’s being gentlemen, and everybody knows that gentlemen do not have nasty hands so why should they need to wash etc.
They were ALL wrong.
Judges are special, but they int that special. They are human, and between one human being and the other there is very little difference. We are ALL subject to temptation.Judges should be included in the legislation
@ Cuhdear Bajan
We are missing the point. We have all heard about how young children are taken away from their parents and indoctrinated. Don’t forget that we were also indoctrinated to believe that doctors, lawyers and judges were above us all. We now realise that they all have human frailties and bouts of temptation. Quite frankly judges are some of the most corrupt to be found anywhere.
Political parties try to counter this truth by propaganda and indoctrination. It’s all to serve their narrow interest at any given time.
Napoleon and the pups.
Now we are hearing about a women’s grassroots organization to deal with parenting. Note it’s about parenting but it’s going be with women only.
“Things get curiouser and curiouser.”
Alice in Wonderland.
It’s IRRELEVANT that the bill did not PASS. Barbados has always shown it’s a country of RULES & REGULATIONS without ENFORCEMENT. Bill was ONLY latest WALK THE TAKE government PHOTO OP & FLUFF endeavour.
@Wily
Some see the glass as half full, others always see it as half empty. Barbados has achieved nothing. Barbados is a shitehole country.
#steuspe
Kodiwala “renegades” dun a numbuh pun wunna. Dem musse so proud to see wunna come wid de same ole recycled nonsense. I heard him pun Brasstacks yesterday. As usual he mek a brilliant point. Wunna so like to talk bout youth engagement but when dey do dey indoctrinated by political parties. Why he cahn just be a sensible person who see reality and wunna indoctrinated in hatred. Look Kotdiwala need to include wunna in he article. Wunna “odious” too. A gud ting bajans see tru wunna slaves uh hatred and wunna renegade masters. In de name uh God, get tuh rh out. Carry on smartly Kotdiwala.
Cuhdear BajanAugust 10, 2020 1:11 AM
Judges are special, but they int that special.
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I’ve walked the walk and have first hand experience.
You are right!!
I see the Chief Judge is resigning!!!!!!!!!@!!!!!!!!!
Silversleeves, I do not hate anybody.
But truly I AM NOT LOYAL TO ANY POLITICAL PARTY, but if Mia or Verla, of Joseph or Grenville or Mark, or Khaleel needed a blood donation today any of them can have it from me. They are all the same to me, the children of our one creator God.
i work hard, raise my children well, looked after my elders in their declining years, do volunteer work pay my taxes, go to church sometimes, although not since February. I have promised myself that I will voluntarily return on January 1, 2023, unless the kids carry me in a box before then. Lolll!!!
And sweep the road in front of my home. Lolll!!!
Yup, judges should be included. Judges are special, but not that special.
@David
“Some see the glass as half full”
Yes others that are NOT steuspe are more REALISTIC and do not believe in the TOOTH FAIRY & SANTA CLAUSE. Was it just coincidence that members of the upper house were conveniently not able to vote or was it PLANNED that way, once again Wily’s leaning to the glass half empty philosphy. It’s only been 65+ years in the planning this INTEGRITY BILL, still have all of 21st century left to get it to a vote, hmmmm.
@Wily
It was a beautiful day in Barbados today.
@ K2 PERSONALLY
After Tron has already railed against the hypocritical opposition in the Senate, I am very pleased that neutral youth like K2 are joining my campaign.
K2 is right on all counts. I would like to add that, with the outrageous behaviour of some Barbadian senators, Barbados is now a third-class banana republic. The government is completely blameless for this development – of course. I pray for our great leader Mia Mottley and her faithful Attorney General that justice will prevail in the end.
Many people hold against K2 and me, that in Barbados there are many laws on paper, but nobody enforces them. That is my response: Doesn’t the population also obey the Corona rules in an excellent fashion (unlike many white tourists from the USA and UK)? So Barbadians are very well able to behave according to the rules. I am sure that the new integrity bill will soon be applied.
But I want to go one step further than K2: Let’s protest in front of the Senate day and night. If the police has to take the rebellious senators into protective custody because they are afraid of the just wrath of the people, we have achieved our goal.
Senator Caswell was criticized by a few today for referring to Khaleel as a boy on the Sunday talk show.
@ Piece the Prophet August 9, 2020 10:54 PM
Oh you Great Prophet!
You should read the latest scientific papers. Wearing proper masks reduces the risk of infection to almost zero.
The way the outspoken senator treated Commings, his peers treat HIV infected people and same-sex couples.
How would the outspoken senator react if the USA, UK and EU would refuse him entry in the future, because the risk of crime, the risk of HIV and other diseases is much higher among his peers than among people in the North? The senator would be the first to shout out “racism” here.
You cannot remain credible if you apply double standards.
Senator Caswell was criticized by a few today for referring to Khaleel as a boy on the Sunday talk show.
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@ Caswell WAS 100% CORRECT WHEN HE CALLED KK A BOY AND WHO HAS I WILL ADD DRUNK THE BLP JIM JONES KOOLAID.
ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD A 16 or 17 YEAR OLD MALE IS A BOY.
ONLY IN 2×3 BARBADOS WHERE HE IS BEING USED LIKE A BLIND TOOL WOULD OTHERS RUSH TO DEFEND WHAT IS NONSENSE BUT DEFLECT FROM THE TRUTH.
A CESSPOOL OF BACKWARD THINKING INDIVIDUALS WHO DON’T LIKE TO DEAL WITH REALITY.
NO WONDER THE ISLAND HAS FALLEN SO LOW TO BE IN THE HANDS OF THE WHITE MAN IMF CLAWS
ANOTHER BLP KOOLAID DRINKER SEEMED TO HAVE FOUND THEMSELF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LAW:
In court over Facebook posts
Well known social commentator Patrick King appeared in the District “A” Magistrates’ Court yesterday accused of sending annoying Facebook messages to Starcom Network’s Station Manager David Ellis and another man.
King, 52, a marketing representative, of Campaign Land, Martindales Road, St Michael, denied that between July 17 and 18, 2019, he used a computer to send an electronic communication that was menacing in character, and that he intended to cause or was reckless as to whether he caused annoyance, inconvenience, distress or anxiety to Ellis.
He was also charged, in Holetown’s jurisdiction, that he used a computer to send electronic communications, on July 10, 11 and 12 this year, that were menacing in nature, and that he intended to cause or was reckless as to whether he caused annoyance, inconvenience, distress or anxiety to any of the people to whom he intended.
Those alleged messages were promised exposés posted on his Facebook relating to John Fleming
https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/247175/court-facebook-posts
@ Baje
You are right. Treating a boy not yet old enough to take his A levels or even to vote as a fount of wisdom speaks to the ‘maturity’ of the BU rumshop. Just look at how some of the older supposedly well-educated people behave.
However ‘intelligent’, there are two ways of gaining knowledge – through study or through experience. By debating such immaturity one treating it as an afternoon theatre show, good for cheap laughs. My suggestion is to ignore him, as Caswell has done.
As usual the comments coming from you first thing in the morning can be tossed into the vituperative bucket. The boy ‘Khaleel” is obviously a student of politics, he is reading which is more than can be said for many who frequent the blog. He is free like anyone here to follow the politics he wants. Attack his message and leave your imbecilic references at the door. You are not a politician, Senator Caswell is in that role now, context.
@Hal,
there is only one source of actual knowledge and that is experience. doctus cum libro is not real knowledge . a 16 year who has never made a woman orgasm, never paid a bill should know his bloody place. there is reason war recruiters like youngsters around that age; they know nothing and their minds can be manipulated easily to whatever idealistic rendering. that is why i dont even acknowledge the koolaid kid. yes he has a place but it should be among his peers arguing these same points or with his mentor whomever that may be. his time will come. Caswell is right. as Caswell rightly asserted and which i have adopted- aquila non capit muscas
@Greene
No surprise coming from you given your political stripe. Why do political parties have youth arms and engage in political activity? How did the Thompsons, Husbands, Sealys et al become known in Barbados as politcal aspirants? By taking on the giants in debates as teenages. If as old hardback men you want to usurp your roles by all means but allow the youth their place at the table. There is a reason why history shows that the youth are the ones to lead change. Study it!
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@ Greene
You Bajan Brits are so rude. I was trying to be polite to the boy. Where I come from some will tell him harsher words thatn what Caswell said.
Have you noticed the biggest buffoon on the blog came out fighting. I try not to respond to him because it is not good for my blood pressure. But he is so stupid. Ignore the kid, let him go and play with his school mates or entertain @David of BU, the digital King Dyal..
Have you noticed how all the Barbadian publications queue to run his silly, immature articles? In the meantime, keep your eyes on the president.
She still has unfinished business, such as finding a good seat for the senator with an MSc in something called political sociology from the LSE, worked in a top job for the UK Treasury and is a cryptocurrency expert. She wants to find him a safe seat.
@ “K” to the Second Power (“²”):
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The actions in the Senate can have real consequences because it did not take place in a vacuum. The country was watching; young people were watching. How many will follow the dastardly example set, like has happened in the States?
Where is the integrity in these persons who wish to pass judgement on the integrity legislation? (Unquote).
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Section 36 (4) of the Constitution of Barbados:
“Seven Senators shall be appointed by the Governor-General, acting in his discretion, by instrument under the Public Seal, to represent religious, economic or social interests or such other interests as the Governor-General considers ought to be represented: Provided that before appointing any person under this subsection the Governor-General shall consult such persons as, in his discretion, he considers can speak for those interests and ought to be consulted.”
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You make it ‘sound’ as if only the two “Opposition” senators were the ones responsible for the failure of the Bill to be passed in the Upper Chamber.
Unless you employing your own brand of partisan political arithmetic in which a majority of members can be produced from a ‘total’ of 1 we fail to see how two members can make up a minority needed to defeat a two-thirds majority of 14 out of a total of 21.
If you are looking for a scapegoat please don’t point your fingers at the LoO’s appointed sheep.
Why not point your fingers at those appointed to represent the ‘broader’ interests of Society as manifested in the overarching ‘wisdom’ of the GG as delegated by Her Majesty?
If you are looking for a whipping boy to assign culpability for the crucifixion of the ‘holy’ Bill of Integrity why not highlight the incompetence of the leader of the Government’s business in that ‘august’ chamber?
BTW, you are no ‘boy’ David trying to slay the ‘lawyering’ goliath Caswell.
You were forced to cede on previous occasions when you came up against the more ‘mature’ jurisprudential intellect of the Senator.
And you will continue to lose in any impartial debate of national import until you stop being just another ‘brown’ jumped-up spring chicken strutting around the red-painted barn in order to become a politically-mature cock able to see ‘bright’ right from ‘red’ wrong.
“A righteous man will always own up to his faults.
That’s the difference between a man and a boy.”
@David,
i would be surprise if you said something differently. i was at school in the debating society when Thompson was at school. and Caswell, and Bostic, and Dale. MAM and Donville debated for their schools.
Thompson mostly debated at school. i remember one legendary end of term face off between Thompson and Brathwaite- i believe he was in the army and is now at the airport. it was brilliant. yes. Thomspon was part of the youth arm of the DLP and i believe that he did submit some articles and spoke nationally a few times but by that time Thompson was in 6th form. not that that makes any difference. and if Thompson or anyone contributed articles of this frequency and nature as the Kid i would have said the same. and at the time some did. others were enthralled,
mind you i am not trying to put a damper on the Kid. he could do the same in other places like i said above but neophytes must know their place- that simple.
@Miller
This blaming of the opposition is nonsense. This was not a numbers game. The responsibility rested with government read leader of government business to build consensus for the Bill.
@ David August 11, 2020 8:18 AM
Who is blaming the “Opposition” other than those looking for scapegoats for the abject failure of the passing of the Bill in the Upper Chamber?
Why is the Integrity of the other senators being brought into disrepute?
Any finger-pointing or allusions to political shenanigans on the part of Senator Franklyn is pure political poppycock.
BTW are you calling for the reshuffling of the ‘small cabinet’ in the Upper Room?
@Miller
We have discussed this so many times. At the root of our problem is that our independent senators are not so independent based on the selection process.
@ David August 11, 2020 8:43 AM
At least there will be a ray of hope when the transformation / transmutation to a republic is announced in the up-coming ‘Throne’ speech to make that Upper Chamber fit for purpose in a 21st Century Barbados.
The current administration ought to be proactive to accommodate the upcoming changing of the guard in Buckingham palace.
@Mr Blogmaster, it’s rather amusing – deeply sarcastic sense – to read bloggers and politicians “dismiss’ this young man as a ‘boy’ …. the irony of that puerile attack is also a good laugh.
As you note the boy Thompson debated well an experienced man … an attorney no less – who one must presume had already discovered how to make “a woman orgasm” and had “paid a bill” or two…. and BESTED him in the eyes of many!
THAT was a seminal moment for all who were into debating and in 6th forms of that era…
On other occasions the then girls like Liz Thompson or the now PM Mottley performed well in arguments against adults on national issues .. so let’s call this as it is: a nonsensical trope re this gentleman’s age.
Just recently we were reminded of the tremendous public messaging and argumentation of a 21 year old John Lewis amidst and among deeply experienced elders at the height of the Civil Rights struggle … he had been working tirelessly , debating and displaying his boyish intellect for YEARS leading up to that moment…
What of the youth who went on to be those vibrant voices of the 50s and 60s here in Bim or the Elombe’s, Commissiong’s etc… all vocal as teenagers and beyond.
We don’t have to like their politics but how in hell do we DISMISS youthful exuberance when it’s so damn ‘inconvenient’ to us…
Blatant Bajanesque HYPOCRISY.
Looka I like the Senator but his remark was jyst that…hypocritical… is this the SAME man who as a BOY himself was so vocal on issues… of leadership, authority etc … the same man who allegedly gave up a military commission ostensibly due to ‘youthful exuberance’. .. were folks lambasting him as a BOY then.. because of a difference of opinions!! The Senator should indeed be DOUBLY criticized… the only BOYS (or girls) are those who think that age offers a special allowance to be disrespectful.
The boys and girls today who make the most ‘ intellectual noise are of course the men and women of tomorrow who gain the experience and keep more noise… alas a lot of the later noise turns that clarity of youth on its head!
With experience comes greater ‘corruption’ too… along with ‘well we can’t do it that way’ deferral. YOUTH has its ‘why can’t it be that way’ benefits (and concerns)!
Or said otherwise, learning to pay bills and learning to give your loved one orgasmic bliss can bring with it PYD: Post Youthful Depression… or the more envious .. that lil pipsqueak isn’t better than I was.
Alas!
@Greene
a 16 year who has never made a woman orgasm
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That is grounds for banning right there and then, I’m appealing to the blog master to take action against you. Yuh notice that many of the men here are not so bold as to tackle that subject? I wonder if some of the wimin here will say yuh can turn that around and say neither has a 61 year old.
Looka don’t discount 16 year olds but but the offerings on the internet these days will provide a 16 year old with the knowledge as to which buttons to push (so I have been told).
Anyway, I dun wid this, over to you Mr blogmaster.
BTW … simply for memory of history righteousness 😎
@Greene your remark that “Thompson was at school. and Caswell, and Bostic, and Dale.”… is very, very loose
As far as I know the Caswell above as in Sen Frankly is older than all others cited and was not in the same class form cohort… similarly the Dale as in AG Marshall is younger and he too was not in same class cohort.
Whether they encountered each other in debates at school is possible surely.
i remember when i was around 16 -17 i told my father he could not tell me anything about life becos i was in lower 6th and i knew a lot. I had plenty of CXCs and O levels. he said son you know nothing until you have lived. i shrugged that off as nonsense from an old man.
when i was 26 i apologised to him. it was then after working and having a few girlfriends (looking back i am sure that perhaps one orgasmed and not from my doing) that i understood i actually knew nothing. he laughed, said he had the same issues with his dad and knew i would come back at some point and talk about it if not apologise which he was not expecting. i set out then to learn life so to speak.
it is from this back drop that i suggest to the Koolaid Kid go and learn life then come back and talk. in the meantime hone the rhetorical skills you exhibit and stick in your own lane until then.
Why is there so much concern because Caswell call a fully grown political pit bull from the kennels of Roebuck and George Street a pup.
I think Caswell got it all wrong. It’s obvious that the gentleman has already built up a rather large following.
That’s why the comparisons with Thompson are being made. Quite frankly I am hoping for more young and fully grown political pitbulls to emerge.
To put it simply: Mr. Kothdiwala has clearly demonstrated he is no “boy”. I may disagree with 90 % of his positions but I think he is more than ready to pursue a political career.
Sometimes the “ elders” just think too much of themselves.
yes Caswell was older (perhaps Mascoll’s age if not younger) and an officer Cadet until the Byer issue. Bostic was around the same age if not younger and an officer Cadet too. Thompson was perhaps a year younger than Bostic but i stand to be corrected. Marshall was a year or two below Bostic. i dont remember Thompson or Marshall in the Cadets. i remember Caswell as he is now.
of that lot only Thompson was in the debating society as i recalled. and Grenville was a year above me and a year below Marshall.
@ Greene
It was part of the rite de passage. Ignore the usual BU background noise. We all went through that experience, of thinking we were the cleverest person alive. In the old, pre-digital days, we used to have scholarships to the First and Second grade schools. Scholarship boys and girls were celebrated.
In the 1970s, the Greater London Council held a conference on police and black youth (it has ever been thus) and I was invited to speak.
I cannot remember all of what I said, but I ended by saying that young black people should not listen to anyone over the age of 30 on race and crime. One of the delegates was a Barbadian, Ashton Gibson.
After that conference, every time Ashton met me the first thing he would ask was how old was I; he later returned to Barbados and when in the country I would visit him. He kept asking me that question until shortly before his death. It mystified my wife until I explained to her why he asked the question.
We must encourage bright young boys and girls, but pretending they are smarter than they really are is doing them a disservice. Many sensible people only realise how little they know about a subject after attending university and qualifying in that very subject. The more you know, the more you realise you do not know.
I will give another story. You must have heard of Easy Boy, the character; he had a younger brother, David, who went to the Modern High School (in the years before @William). David passed three O levels before developing mental problems.
The people in the Ivy were so concerned that David had studied too much that they warned their children about over studying. I recently reminded my elderly aunt about this and she is still convinced that David studied too much.
You will be familiar with the annual GCSE results in England in which ten and eleven year old boys and girls pass their GCSEs, usually in maths. There is a reason for that. When the results come out next week note how the papers will go crazy about kids passing their exams. Google Ruth Lawrence.
On BU we like going over the top. Here is a challenge for the president. If 16/17 yr olds are so clever, why not reduce the age of majority from 18, where it has been since 1963, to 16? Younger people tend to be more radical in their voting than their parents.
This is unadulterated nonsense. Part of the maturation process for young minds is for the opportunity for the environment to accommodate young and old. Nobody should be summarily dismissed because of their age. This is backward and obsolete thinking.
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@Skinner, absolutely ‘Sometimes the “ elders” just think too much of themselves.”
… But it’s also absolutely natural for them (us) to think that way… were those elders not youthful pit-bulls themselves who aspired to political notoriety!
It can’t be very enjoyable to look back at one’s time and see how your deepest ambitions faltered and then see another whip-sharp character aiming to reach those same ambitious heights to which you failed.
And in the political public glare the sniping gets quite caustic for all to see.
Didn’t many Black pols resent the boyish Obama who suoerceded them so completely… at times Jesse Jackson looked totally angry ‘it was not him’.
The young AOC was derisively referred to as “a bright shiny new object” by an elderly and wise US Senator …
Before ‘them’ they were “us” is the collective cry of every political elder who frowns, bad talks or disrespects the latest glow in the dark attraction!
I called it Bajanesque hypocrisy above but that was poetic license for emphasis…. its just standard human hypocrisy on which Bajans absolutely have no dibs!
The young and beautiful should be on night duty working as prostitutes to gain more experience, have the oldies here who claim sexual knowledge ever made a woman squirt and how do they still get it up, they must be juicing.
David Blogmaster, there is such a seamless symmetry to life that we inevitably miss the threads that are woven therein.
I mean no DISRESPECT in saying this (but it’s too OBVIOUS not to be said)
… BOTH Greene and AUSTIN readily admit that they thought themselves too big for their britches in THEIR YOUTH… therefore is it any wonder that both the gents are so vociferous in lambasting current youthful vigour !
Look this is not psych 100 intro to human thinking but how on earth can we as sensible youth (then) presume that we should not take guidance or advice from those currently running the society (with a modicum of success) into which we were born.. Yes we all have youthful knowitallism but that is hubris most egregious displayed!
Anyhow I dun wid dat.. the logical progressions are too glaringly damning to need more palaver.
Now @Greene this is 40 plus years later so truly superfluous but what the hell….
You said:
1“yes Caswell was older (perhaps Mascoll’s age if not younger) and an officer Cadet until the Byer issue. “
You have interesting recall memory … I do not recall this Byer issue BUT Col Bostic and Sen Franklyn are NOT around the same age unless the Col sat his common entrance late for some unknown reasons . . he IS younger.
2.Thompson of course was never a cadet nor was Marshall actually. One made his ‘bones’ in organizing a school club and the fore mentioned Debate Society… the other as an original member of Key Club which exposed him internationally even then and set his path to politics.
Bostic was of course a stellar Cadet Drum Major, musician and top TT player.
Caswell preceded them all and as u said was a Mascoll contemporary … the former was a top cadet as you noted and the latter an all-round sportsman (cricket, soccer, TT) who went on to supremely hone his academic skills.
ALL THAT to say… they were ALL sharp, exuberant young men who displayed great maturity as teenager leaders of their peers… it is RIDICULOUS for any of them or any of us to denigrate today’s youthful leaders in any way, shape or fashion.
Criticize their views vigorously of course but its simply RIDICULOUS to denigrate or dismiss today’s youth leaders … or perhaps they should just dismiss us over 30 years as old-farts too full of our glory days… as u guys did to those then!!
Around and around the donks tree we go!
I gone , hear.
………therefore is it any wonder that both the gents are so vociferous in lambasting current youthful vigour…..(Quote)
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I cannot believe the nonsense displayed by small minded senior intellects who instead of enlightening the public of things political, prefer to denigrate a bright and knowledgeable political future of a 16-year old prodigy who is smarter, fluent with a brain of his own that speak without a piece of paper like certain so-called politicians or political fowls of the yard.
Whilst at Combermere, David Thompson a bright and articulate teenager was focusing on becoming a politician just like same young gentleman. He eventually became Prime Minister of Barbados. He was focused, he ignored the naysayers, he pressed forward with his ideologies with economic sense and a love of people without decrying those who discredited him when he was fighting to get his message across.
Stop blaming the youngster and blame the educational system who focused far away countries instead of Barbados and Caribbean countries.
I was listening to Sunday talk show when I was disappointed to hear a prominent politician calling an intellectual human being “a boy” and how he “drank BLP liquid”. That’s nonsense, if you cannot respond intelligently to an issue, regarding if the person is your 5-year old grandson or a University graduate or a 16-year old, don’t go on the “Low Road” instead of embarrassing the youngster, you are lowering your standards Others will be seeing a bunch of political old timers who refuse to acknowledge up and coming youngsters who are ready to carry the political mantle for Barbados.
I cannot believe a so-called political commentator would make such a statement “a 16 year who has never made a woman orgasm”. I can see you are actually expressing your gutter feelings. Maybe, the youngster is more man than you.
Probably, you were accused of the same.
I cannot believe big men would prefer being in the gutter. Simply pathetic.
Greene Hal and udders who might feel so
If Kothdiwal is such a pesky nuisance and deserves to be ignored as he should stick in he “lane”, why do both uh yu consistently deride him and he right to speak? All de time? Who yu trying to convince? DPD might be on to sumtin. Nuttin worse den unfulfilled ambition I guess. But wuh I know?
@Silversleeves
Plse do not include me in nonsense. Where have I consistently derided him. I have never taken part in any of his conversation and today is the first time, in reply to @Greene, I have even taken serious note of him. I ignore him as I do a number of people on BU.
In case you have not read what I have previously said. I am not a teacher; I have no interest in teaching; nor am I in a popularity contest. I have read more books over the last fifty years alone than a 17 yr old has lived days. I am not prepared to be a nurse maid.
I have spent years trying to educate myself, longer than I care to remember, and am not in the game of taking part in discussions just to be polite. If I think something is crap, I say that. If it is nonsense, I ignore it.
The guy is not of interest to me; his juvenile politics do not appeal to me; one idiot even said I was vociferous in my condemnation. That is typical BU.Nor am I interested in backward, prehistoric Barbadian party politics and the incompetents who put themselves forward to be politicians.
My interest is in ordinary black Barbadian working class people and assisting them to understand the kind of society they live under. I do not debate with whites, Asians, Chinese nor any others nor do I seek their validation. . But good luck to them.
If you do not understand what I mean, plse ask.
Hal Austin July 13, 2020 9:31 AM
https://barbadosunderground.net/2020/07/12/the-other/#comment-1394979
“If you engage this juvenile in debate then you are playing the game. Even critiquing his teenage essay is part of the game, since it implies an intellectual levelling. Just ignore him.“
“Intellectual leveling”, “teenage essay”, “I have read more books over the last 50 years alone than a 17 year old has lived days”.
Who are yu trying to convince dat yu are better den de youngster? And why yuh trying suh hard?
As David would say yuh petticoat showing.
@ Silver
Let me repeat in simple language: I do not debate outside my lane, and my lane is black working class Barbadians. Statement of fact: I have read more books during my adult life than a 17 yr old has lived days.
For your info: Let me say again. I am not trying to convince anyone; I am not looking for a job or reward; I am not looking for friends nor to be popular. I have had a full and satisfying working life. I say again: If I think something is crap, I call it out. If you and others think the kid is a genius, fine. I do not nor do I care.
You are free to interpret that how you like. I am out of here.
@ de pedantic Dribbler
I am impress with your writing regarding the attack by others on the 16 year old. We have to listen to the youth. Embedded, you will find alternative ideas that our hard heads failed to implement.
i stand by what i said. having worked with and mentored young people, the worse thing is to flatter and deceive them. i have taken many under my wings when they entered my profession as know it alls only to find out how little they actually know. years later they usually admit that they were plonkers. theory and experience are different animals all together and experience teaches us to marry the two if we can. the basis of knowledge is to show us how little we actually know.
knowing all this why would i want to deceive this youngster. i have complimented the Koolaid Kid on his writing/ rhetorical skills and will encourage him to continue. i would not flatter and or deceive him to believe he can or should treat with his elders at a familiar level. no i wont. i wouldnt indulge it either. he is a boy. a precocious one but still a boy and he knows nothing about life. no yet. he cant vote and i doubt he has seen a star pitched in the bajan meaning.
Carry on Kid but stick in yuh bloody lane
Jamaican father. Indian mother.
The youngster is too long winded.
Tell him to keep it short and sweet.
I was bored by Don Blackman. Wait what even become of Don?
The kid bores me too.
I could charge for this advice, but I am letting the kid ghave it for free.
Apart from Greene’s comment about orgasm which is way out of bounds, KK despite his teenage years is fair game if he can’t stand the heat, he should abandon the kitchen. I just saw an article on BU by George C Brathwaite from 2017 in which he knocked the DLP for their criticism of the BLP for having a 13-year-old KK on the BLP stage. What age is it kosher to be critical of him? 18? 21? 25? The teenage Thompson would have been raked over the coals if social media existed in his heyday.
More recently KK joined in the debate about Nelson saying in effect that it is a divisive issue and the nation has more important things to do. Should he be given a pass on these views because he is only a teenager?
This very article is odious as he is blaming the Opposition for the failure of the passage of the Integrity Bill. He is asking them to quit their seats in the Senate presumably his remedy would to replace them with autoboots who are only too willing to do the Gov’ts bidding. The Gov’t ought to learn something from this failure, it must have been buoyed by success of the earlier Bill to amend the Constitution and thought it would be a cakewalk to get this Bill passed but compromise is the hallmark of democracy and often parliamentarians have to be cajoled and wooed to take action in support of your goals.
@ Hants,
I have no problem with the young man’s parentage. However, like Hal, my interests lies with the Black Bajan working class people. How comfortable are we with this individual to speak on the behalf of Barbados majority population when he has no roots within this community. He is the product of a non-national mixed with someone of East Indian descent.
Whether or not we would like to admit it, Barbados is a black majority population. We are in danger of marginalising the black Barbadian working class voice by encouraging A.N. Others to dominate the conversation on the running of our country. Jamaica, for all of its beauty, remains an island of huge inequalities where colourism is all pervasive. Take a look at countries with a history of indentureship such as Mauritius. Those of East Indian descent and the other ethnic groups never take kindly to their African brothers and sisters.
Do we really want this young man with his background speaking on our behalf. This is preposterous. One of our national heroes, was a Trini – Clement Payne. A man who spoke out for the black majority population. If he were alive today he would certainly would have spoken out about the events surrounding the George Floyd slaying; unlike the young KK who stated that he was not prepared to talk about this tragedy.
Perhaps there is some hope for young KK. I have just heard that Joe Biden has chosen the half-Jamaican, half Indian – Kamala Harris – to be his running mate. Further proof that if you are of mixed ancestry, you should stick around; but if you are black you should get back, get back!
Tell me why nice to see you on the blog again. I am in total agreement with you concerning some on here whose agenda seems to be to stop Khaled from speaking because of their political agenda being different to theirs like Greene, Skinner , Austin and Sarge.I was also very disappointed in Mr Franklyn derogotory remarks to Khaled on Sunday and in Mr Cory Layne for not making him apologise to or withdraw the remarks.Had Mr Ellis been the host he would not have gotten away with that but Mr Layne is a bit immature for that role in my view.Franklyn, s remarks seemed to indicate that he could not respond to Khaleed, remarks.However Khaled you keep pressing on as you make more sense than those mentioned above.
@ Lorenzo “political agenda being different to theirs like Greene, Skinner , Austin and Sarge.”
I have defended Mr. Kothdiwala. My most recent comment less than 24 hours ago . I am the one who from day one who said that the young man is quite capable of fending for himself.
You need to read what I say and not what you think. I said from day one that while I may disagree with 90% of what he writes/ says that he is quite ready for the political path.
You are just plain dishonest putting me in groups and brackets.
Quite frankly I seldom agree with anything you write but I have never very said you should be ban or silenced.
Keep it honest pal. Mr. Kothdiwala presents no issue with me. I was just as if not more combative as he is at his age.
Now for your limited mind this is what William Skinner wrote:
William Skinner August 11, 2020 10:22 AM
“Why is there so much concern because Caswell call a fully grown political pit bull from the kennels of Roebuck and George Street a pup.
I think Caswell got it all wrong. It’s obvious that the gentleman has already built up a rather large following.
That’s why the comparisons with Thompson are being made. Quite frankly I am hoping for more young and fully grown political pitbulls to emerge.
To put it simply: Mr. Kothdiwala has clearly demonstrated he is no “boy”. I may disagree with 90 % of his positions but I think he is more than ready to pursue a political career.
Sometimes the “ elders” just think too much of themselves.”
Now , go and find a rock to high under and stop your silly antics. How old are you, Lorenzo?
Peace
It was instructive that the President of the Senate Cheltenham announced he was going to retire from the Senate at the end of the vote. Did the Gov’t have some self- imposed deadline to get this Bill passed and get Cheltenham out for bigger and better things? If the vote was postponed Cheltenham would have had to stick around for a longer period and he may not have been able to slide in to the position that has been reserved for him immediately after the current incumbent leaves.
I know nothing about nothing .
@Sargeant
How old is Cheltenham?
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Enjoying my time off the list! But sweet life doan last long!
Lol
I’LL BE BACK!
@ TLSN,
I showed the lineage of Kamala Harris.
I chose not to deep dive into the lineage of K K.
Water scarcity taking its toll – by Marlon Madden August 12, 2020
With dry taps most days, withering crops, and fears of losing livestock, White Hill, St Andrew residents are fuming over what they describe as a blatant disregard for human life by local authorities.
They complain that the ongoing water woes seemed to be getting worse, with even fewer days of having water in their taps and sporadic filling of the three community tanks in the area.
This has prompted community spokeswoman Carlitha Andrews to call for an urgent meeting with the new Minister of Water Resources Ian Gooding-Edghill and his junior minister Charles Griffith, as well as officials from the Barbados Water Authority (BWA).
“I was calling for a townhall meeting since [Wilfred] Abrahams was the minister. They are very disrespectful to the people of White Hill,” said Andrews, explaining that even though she was asked to write a letter, which she hand delivered, no acknowledgement has so far been made.
“I don’t even think the letter has been read. They probably throw it in the garbage,” she added.
https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/08/12/water-scarcity-taking-its-toll/
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ALL THIS NONSENSE TO DEFEND A LITTLE BOY WHO IS BLINDED BY PARTY NONSENSE OF A BLP WHO PROMISED TO SOLVE ALL BLACK BARBADIANS PROBLEMS WHILST IN OPPOSITION.
RECORD MURDERS.
WHITE BUSINESSES STILL BENEFITING FROM MAJOR CONTRACTS AND MAJOR GOVERNMENT BACKED LOANS.
NO INTEGRITY LEGISLATION AND NO MINIMUM WAGE PROMISED IN 6 MONTHS OF BEING ELECTED.
POOR PEOPLE STILL SUFFERING WITH NO WATER AND BEING DISRESPECTED.
BAJANS LOCKED UP FOR BREAKING CORONA VIRUS CURFEWS WHILST POLITICIANS DISRESPECT RULES AS THEY FEEL LIKE.
YET MANY IDIOTS ARE DEFENDING BULLSHIT.
BARBADOS IT SEEMS WILL REMAIN BACKWARD WITH ITS BLACK MASSES SUFFERING WHILST A FEW TIED TO THE COAT STRINGS OF BLP BENEFITS SAME SHIT AS THE DLP..
@David
Age doesn’t matter if you are a place holder
How can Jerome or anyone else on de guvment side be blamed for the failure of the Bill in the Senate? Oppo and Ind senators were intractable. Three were needed. And it was impossible to get three. So is Dere anyone else possible of blame apart from de people who willfully obstructed it?
Walcott as leader should have anticipated if he had the votes long before Wednesday. His job was to build consensus for the Bill. Why have the joint committee of parliament?
Agreed. But clearly those individuals weren’t budging. And time was runnin out.
Senator Caswell indicated on national he is willing to move if…
Clearly there was room to negotiate and implement a semblance of an integrity law.
The Bill will not please all stakeholders, commonsense must prevail.
This is the job of Walcott. To build consensus for getting the Bills through. If he is challenged to do so, he should step aside.
David do de Math.
Caswell controls de two oppo seats. He wants to do away wid blind trusts and add judges. Guvment got clear legal advice dat judges can’t be covered in dis bill. So how would Dey have accommodated him and Drakes? Dat is two gone.
Next Monique wanted more consultation. Consultation does tek time. Again de clock was running out. Monique usually carries The young Boyce and Nurse. Dat is three more down. So five against in total. Four more senators to go, and yuh need tree.
Moore aalready indicated she thought is was too invasive. And she wants civil servants out. And when it came to voting, she abstained. How do you align all dese different views to get at least three?
Rogers and Maynard are the only wild cards. But we know how Rogers voted. Regardless that’s only two. Yuh best bet would be Monique’s clique but clearly dat was impossible (Maynard could also be in dat clique).
David, de game was set and match evuh since.
You have outlined the outcome which cannot be refuted BUT outcomes can be changed with the right influencers. The citizens want this legislation, lawmakers are duty bound to reconcile differences. A month before the vote bring the advocacy to the people. Let us know before the vote the outcome.
It seems sometimes those appointed to serve often forget the mandate at the altar of being self serving.
Agreed David. They are duty bound to reconcile differences. My question is dat in de end shouldn’t blame lie with those who refused to reconcile.
They are to be blamed as a collective but the buck stops with the leader of government business.
@ David
You are absolutely correct. This legislation was the centre piece of all legislation promised by the administration during elections. The leader of government business in the Senate should have made sure he had the votes and if he didn’t, he could have used parliamentary procedure to stop it from going to the vote.
This is clear to any ten year old who knows anything about parliamentary procedure. This is the nonsense that is dangerously impeding the progress of the country , when because of blind loyalty to a party, be it B or D , we can’t bring ourselves to say that our side fowl up.
Outside of the no confidence vote that succeeded against Sandiford; this fiasco is the most embarrassing event that has befallen any party in parliament since independence.
To say otherwise is simply partisan clap trap.
@ William
Plse. You are a knowledgeable and polite elder on this blog. Don’t be misled by nonsense. Before parliament meets, there is a meeting of the ruling party to go through the agenda (which they have spent most of the previous week shaping). On that agenda will be any Bills to be voted on and making sure backsides will be on seats.
If this incompetent government wanted that Bill through it would have, or heads would have rolled. Do not fall for the theatre. That is all the president is interested in. She is not interested in policy; she is a platform speaker, with sprawling hands and empty words.
Watchout for little tricks between now and Sept 15. She is a master/mistress of the three card trick.
@ Silversleeves August 12, 2020 10:24 PM
We need to abolish the Senate, a racist relict of colonial times. The so-called “senators” of the opposition are nothing else than non-democratic “shadows” of unions, cartels and the American citizen Donville.
Skinner
“ Outside of the no confidence vote that succeeded against Sandiford; this fiasco is the most embarrassing event that has befallen any party in parliament since independence.”
Melodramatic much.
“ he could have used parliamentary procedure to stop it from going to the vote.”
What purpose does this serve? Leaving it pun de Order Paper to die? What difference does dat mek? De fact is dat no concession was possible which would have gotten yu de necessary persons because de wish lists were suh diverse. In de process guvment got to make a neat lil political point that Dey are serious about integrity while de udders stand in de way. As usual de rest uh Buhbadus appreciates dat but not de BU household. Wait? I wonduh if dat is because Dey got uh bunch uh non-residents pun hey?
What purpose does this serve? Leaving it pun de Order Paper to die? What difference does dat mek? De fact is dat no concession was possible which would have gotten yu de necessary persons because de wish lists were suh diverse. In de process guvment got to make a neat lil political point that Dey are serious about integrity while de udders stand in de way. As usual de rest uh Buhbadus appreciates dat but not de BU household. Wait? I wonduh if dat is because Dey got uh bunch uh non-residents pun hey?
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NOTHING SURPRISES ME FROM BLP STOOL PIGEONS AND BENEFACTORS.
A BAJAN BY BIRTH IS A BAJAN WHETHER LIVING IN BARBADOS OR ABROAD.
LET ME REPEAT FOR YOU AND YOUR BUDDIES WHO ALWAYS SEEK TO DECEIVE/PULL THE WOOL OVER THE LOCAL BAJANS FOR YOU AND YOUR BLP PARTY PERSONAL GAIN.
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ALL THIS NONSENSE TO DEFEND A LITTLE BOY WHO IS BLINDED BY PARTY NONSENSE OF A BLP WHO PROMISED TO SOLVE ALL BLACK BARBADIANS PROBLEMS WHILST IN OPPOSITION.
RECORD MURDERS.
WHITE BUSINESSES STILL BENEFITING FROM MAJOR CONTRACTS AND MAJOR GOVERNMENT BACKED LOANS.
NO INTEGRITY LEGISLATION AND NO MINIMUM WAGE PROMISED IN 6 MONTHS OF BEING ELECTED.
POOR PEOPLE STILL SUFFERING WITH NO WATER AND BEING DISRESPECTED.
BAJANS LOCKED UP FOR BREAKING CORONA VIRUS CURFEWS WHILST POLITICIANS DISRESPECT RULES AS THEY FEEL LIKE.
YET MANY IDIOTS ARE DEFENDING BULLSHIT.
BARBADOS IT SEEMS WILL REMAIN BACKWARD WITH ITS BLACK MASSES SUFFERING WHILST A FEW TIED TO THE COAT STRINGS OF BLP BENEFITS SAME SHIT AS THE DLP..
BAJE
We should call your friend Uncle Don so he can give us multiple stimulus Cheques to compliment our hefty monthly income, like yu. Perhaps he could employ yu as an educational consultant to teach us how to get degrees.
Anyhow i ent bothering with yu. If yu we’re here yu could see what has been done. Although I doubt seeing is believing fuh yu. Anyhow, I think it was Donna who use to say “flush”.
Enuff
Please put pen tuh paper and write bout de overseas Bajan condition yu does talk bout an also how overseas Bajans such as yuhself does avoid de condition
BAJE
We should call your friend Uncle Don so he can give us multiple stimulus Cheques to compliment our hefty monthly income, like yu. Perhaps he could employ yu as an educational consultant to teach us how to get degrees.
Anyhow i ent bothering with yu. If yu we’re here yu could see what has been done. Although I doubt seeing is believing fuh yu. Anyhow, I think it was Donna who use to say “flush”.
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MY FRIEND ‘UNCLE DON’ SHOWS YOU DON’T HAVE A CLUE AND LOVE TO DEFLECT FROM THE TRUTH.
I AM NO FAN OF TRUMP AND HAVE CALLED HIM OUT MANY TIMES.
THE OVERSEAS CONDITION I HAVE IS NOT BEING TRAPPED IN BARBADOS AND BEING LIED/DECEIVED CONSTANTLY BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND YOUR BLP MATES INCLUDING @enuff.
IN OTHER WORDS I CAN CLEARLY SEE THROUGH THE MUCK.
BY NOW YOU GUYS ARE SO PREDICTABLE EXPOSING YOURSELVES.
DIVIDE AND RULE USED SIMILAR TO THE OLD WHITE COLONIAL MASTERS AMONGST THE FORMER LOCAL BLACK HOUSE SLAVES AND FIELD SLAVES PASSED ONTO PRESENT GENERATION.
BELOW ARE SOME YOU AND YOUR TEAM REGULAR STRATEGIES TO DIVIDE YOUR OWN LOCAL BLACK PEOPLE TO SUPPRESS THEM AND BENEFIT YOUR BLP MATES:
CATEGORIZING PEOPLE BEING DLP WHEN SPEAKING FACTS OR IGNORING POINTS MADE HIGHLIGHTING BLP DECEPTIONS, MISDEEDS OR FALSE PROMISES.
LOCAL BAJAN VS OVERSEAS BAJANS.
ATTACKING THE INDIVIDUAL PERSONALLY.
BRING UP OVERSEA EVENTS TO DEFLECT FROM THE CORRUPTION, MURDER AND THE SUPPRESSION OF PEOPLE LOCALLY ON THE ISLAND.
TOO OBVIOUS HOWEVER YOU FOOLS SEEM TO BE BRAIN DEAD AND STUCK IN THE RUCK.
FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ME.
BAJE
“ATTACKING THE INDIVIDUAL PERSONALLY.”
I gine just leave dat one dere because I know yu don’t want anyone to refresh yu memory about your comments.
Anyhow, Barbados has problems. Race problems, class problems, corruption problems, nepotism problems, inefficiency, waste, and herd mentality and lack of independent thought. My question remains to you Bajan Yanks and Brits and others ever ready to point out we flaws, to reflect pun yuh own situation. Dis guvment ain’t perfect. None anywhere are. All promises haven’t been fulfilled. None ever are. But many have been fulfilled. Bajans live in a much better country today dan Dey did in 2018. But yuh got to be sum special kind uh delusional to think dat a “bad” job has been done. Dat simply is not true. And I doan know how else to put it. You are either delusionally stupid or unintentionally misleading yuhself. Either way, yuh all embarrassing yuhself. But carry on smartly. As wura would say yuh too funny and it’ll be funnier in 15 years when de Labour Party is still in office and doing well. You can say I drunk de “koolaid”, who cares? Most uh de population stands by my side anyhow. And don’t forget our side has always been de superior guvment. I sure yuh gine have de last word.
@Silversleeves August 13, 2020 2:10 PM “…our side has always been de superior guvment.”
Well not always.
But I won’t get into the cat fight between you and Baje.Sorry dog -E fight.
I actually have real-real work to do. Let me get on with it.
BAJE
“ATTACKING THE INDIVIDUAL PERSONALLY.”
I gine just leave dat one dere because I know yu don’t want anyone to refresh yu memory about your comments.
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I HAVE NEVER WENT OUT OF MY WAY TO ATTACK ANYONE ON BU.
HOWEVER I HAVE RESPONDED AT ALL TIMES AFTER I HAVE BEEN ATTACKED PERSONALLY.
I AM NOT AS CORDIAL AS @Hal TO TOLERATE FOOLISHNESS.
IF YOU TALK SHIT TO ME OR START NAME CALL I RESPOND IN KIND.
MY MOTHER DID NOT BORN ME WITH A ‘PUSSY’.
Anyhow, Barbados has problems. Race problems, class problems, corruption problems, nepotism problems, inefficiency, waste, and herd mentality and lack of independent thought. My question remains to you Bajan Yanks and Brits and others ever ready to point out we flaws, to reflect pun yuh own situation. Dis guvment ain’t perfect. None anywhere are. All promises haven’t been fulfilled. None ever are. But many have been fulfilled. Bajans live in a much better country today dan Dey did in 2018. But yuh got to be sum special kind uh delusional to think dat a “bad” job has been done. Dat simply is not true. And I doan know how else to put it. You are either delusionally stupid or unintentionally misleading yuhself. Either way, yuh all embarrassing yuhself. But carry on smartly. As wura would say yuh too funny and it’ll be funnier in 15 years when de Labour Party is still in office and doing well. You can say I drunk de “koolaid”, who cares? Most uh de population stands by my side anyhow. And don’t forget our side has always been de superior guvment. I sure yuh gine have de last word.
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I EXPECTED THE USUAL FLUFF TO DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE.
A 35 YEAR FORMER BLP MINISTER AND PARTY MEMBER WHO RECENTLY RESIGNED IN 2020 HAS CALLED OUT YOUR PARTY FOR CORRUPTION AND NOT HONORING THE BLP 2018 MANIFESTO.
THIS IS FROM AN LOCAL INSIDER.
TREVOR PRESCOD FORMER BLP MINISTER CALLED OUT THE BLP FOR HAVING AMONGST THEIR MIDST UNCLE TOMS AND WHITE SHADOWS.
MASSIVE LOCAL INCREASE OF MURDER VICTIMS, SHOOTING VICTIMS AND ISLAND WIDE POPULATION LIVING IN FEAR FOR THE MOST PART.
RESIDENTS IN SOME PART OF THE COUNTRY CALLING OUT FOR SEVERE WATER SHORTAGES AND CALLS FALLING ON BLP GOVERNMENT DEAF EARS IN 2020.
BLACK BUSINESSES SHUTTING DOWN LEFT AND RIGHT.
WHITE BUSINESSES GETTING GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS AND LOANS TO FURTHER DISENFRANCHISED THE BLACK MASSES.
@Silversleeves or @Silverbullshitter
@ Baje
All’s well. The ego-driven president has just got a new World Bank/IMF appointment. Bugger the poor people of Barbados. She is now world class.
@ Baje
All’s well. The ego-driven president has just got a new World Bank/IMF appointment. Bugger the poor people of Barbados. She is now world class.
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@ Hal ALL OF US WERE DUPED WHEN THE BLP GOT IN MAY 2018 INCLUDING ME I WAS HOPING BETTER FOR THE BAJAN LOCAL POPULATION EVEN THOUGH I AM ABROAD.
NOW ONE @Silverbullshitter IS SAYING THEY WILL BE IN FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS.
THE POOR FOOL ALIKE MANY OTHERS DOESN’T UNDERSTAND IT DOESN’T IMPACT ME AS MY BREAD IS BUTTERED ELSEWHERE HOWEVER I SHIVER FOR THE MANY BLACK BAJANS MOST OF THEM SUFFERING IN SILENCE.
O WHAT A WEB WE WEAVE WHEN WE CONTINUE TO DECEIVE THOSE WHO ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO HELP THEMSELVES SUCH AS THE LOCAL BLACK MASSES.
Skinner i now getting back to you .I am old enough to remember you running for Dr Haynes, NDP and like many losing your deposit.This tells me politically you are a lightweight.Enough said.It is a pity everyone wants to hear Ms Mottley bot no one wants to hear Hal Austin except the dumb bell Mariposa, i wonder why?This so called knowall thought Mt Thompson would have made a great PM.However when challenged could profuce nothing of substance to support but to claim he had a conversation with him.Silversleeves do not worry with the two or is it three degree man.His sweet life get taken from him post May 2018 hence his constant anger with this government He always mentioned things not done the lstest being the Integrity legislation but notice who made excises to run out the senate and who abstained certainly not government senators.Go figure.
@Lorenzo
What is your drink of choice.
Looks like you already had a good serving.
I stopped drinking, but it seems as if rum and koolaid is a good mix.
Ogaz
“ What is your drink of choice.
Looks like you already had a good serving.”
Anybody would need a stiff one to read some uh de effluent wunna does post.
THIS CONVICTED DLP POLITICAL CROOK SAME AS BLP TRYING TO REHABILITATE HIS IMAGE LATELY.
AS THEY SAY TOO LATE SHOULD BE THEIR CRY,
Arthur devoted to family and country – Inniss
Speaking to Barbados TODAY from his home in Tampa, Florida, Inniss who served as Minister of Industry, International Business, Commerce and Small Business Development, credited Arthur for his early political development.
“My first real engagement with Owen Authur was around 1995 when as PM he visited NYC and toured the Government of Barbados office where I worked as a young officer. Our private engagement was one that was quite colorful and in a language that my family and friends in Skeete’s Bay fish market best understood. But it was also one that started a bond between us as country boys who dared to enter the political arena.
“Over the years I have endured some proper lashes from Owen on and off the political field but always in a manner that exemplified that it was not too personal and designed to guide you,” Inniss recalled.
“As an economist he took his discipline as a true profession to be well-practiced and never missed a chance to give us free tutorials in this complex area. In many respects, he saw the entire island and the region as his classroom. He was never condescending but willing to engage. His contribution to redirecting and reshaping the post-1990 Barbados and Caribbean’s social, political and economic landscape remains the envy of even the most enlightened.”
Inniss revealed that as Arthur’s parliamentary representative for ten years, he had much respect for him.
He said while Arthur’s intellect was admired by all, it was his love for his family which stood out most.
“As a young MP, I respected Arthur’s sharp tongue and his equally immense intellect that in latter years reflected more that of a statesman than a party politician. He forced us on both sides of the Chamber to think deeply and not to come with intellectually substandard arguments. As his parliamentary representative for ten years, our only major dispute centered around my public admission that he voted for me. His main grouse was that true or not, I should have kept quiet. He claimed that I had learnt too much from him,” Inniss said.
https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/08/14/arthur-devoted-to-family-and-country-inniss/
The amazing reveal over the last week is how absolutely out of touch are the party defenders who come on BU and try to harass people who are critical of their party’s policies. As the old people say all they do is mek enemies.
Here is the reveal:
Arthur left the BLP and said it’s soup was lost.
Mottley and Arthur end up hand in glove . Later today she will speak at his funeral – the man who mentored her
Chris Sinckler who “ruined” the economy is on Mottley’s economic council
Chris Sinkler and Arthur ended up as buddies
Now we hear how tight Arthur and Donville were
So,all wunnuh jokers who think wunnuh important and go about trying to pull down people fuh party and cussing politicians better learn. At the end of the day wunnuh ain’t lightweight , heavyweight or no kind of weight. Wunnuh is just wait and mek wunnuh self look real foolish. That’s why I neva call wunnuh yardfowls. Real yard fowl sweet sweet wunnuh just plain politically stupid jokers. No taste at all.
That should be soul not soup. My apologies.
@ William Skinner August 14, 2020 6:49 AM
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The amazing reveal over the last week is how absolutely out of touch are the party defenders who come on BU and try to harass people who are critical of their party’s policies. As the old people say all they do is mek enemies.
Here is the reveal:
Arthur left the BLP and said it’s soup was lost.
Mottley and Arthur end up hand in glove . Later today she will speak at his funeral – the man who mentored her
Chris Sinckler who “ruined” the economy is on Mottley’s economic council
Chris Sinkler and Arthur ended up as buddies
Now we hear how tight Arthur and Donville were
So,all wunnuh jokers who think wunnuh important and go about trying to pull down people fuh party and cussing politicians better learn. At the end of the day wunnuh ain’t lightweight , heavyweight or no kind of weight. Wunnuh is just wait and mek wunnuh self look real foolish. That’s why I neva call wunnuh yardfowls. Real yard fowl sweet sweet wunnuh just plain politically stupid jokers. No taste at all. (Unquote).
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Your erudite analysis of the Realpolitik of Barbados is one of the more enlightened assessments in the vivisection of the Duopoly Inc.
The Tweedle Bee and Tweedle Dem incestuous affair ought to be made into a textbook containing the elemental lessons in Bajan politics 101 and which should be made mandatory reading for both the blue-blooded yard-bird called Mariposa and the blinded political hacks like the old ‘Red’ crows Enuff, Lorenzo, Silversleeves and new kid on the block called the red Kool-aid-drinking K2.
As the Mighty Gabby would say: “Dem politicians mekking mock sport at we”.
“Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Agreed to have a battle;
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.
Just then flew down a monstrous crow [called Covid],
As black as a tar-barrel;
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel.”
Skinner i seemed to have mashed your corns.That is too bad, because all you have dtsyed i already know having been around for long enough.You asked how old i was? I responded to you
1 i knew of you running as an NDP candidate in 1991
2 You lost your deposit.
3 Based on that lack of performance in my view you are a political lightweight.These are facts you cannot refute so deal with it.Therefore you are in no position to be seeking to cry down the efforts of proven politicians who have been there and done that.
Lorenzo
When yuh doan muster more Dan 4% uh votes yuh lose all right to be taken seriously. So doan mind he. And when yuh are useless complainers like Millcvnt, wura, Hal, pachidiot and de rest yuh nevuh have a right to be taken seriously. Go figure why dere “vision” of Barbados hasn’t nor will ever come tru,
Condolences to young Khaleel on the passing of his granddad.
Grandparents are very, very special.