Jesus is NOT…

Submitted by Charles Knighton

Jesus was the first gene-spliced man. Human mother, divine Father.” Shekinah Medical Centre advertisement, “Gene Therapy“, April 14 Sunday Sun

The idea of divine beings producing children with human mothers is as ancient as mankind itself. Zeus was so prodigious in the siring of offspring with human mothers that an entire cadre of Immortals, such as Hercules, came to permeate much of Greek mythology. That such beliefs are scoffed at today by many of the same individuals who believe their God impregnated Mary simply demonstrates the grip superstition continues to hold on minds that should have evolved more fully over the millennia.

The action of a man who volunteers to die for his fellow men is universally regarded as noble. The extra claim not to have “really” died makes the whole sacrifice tricky and meretricious. (Thus, those who say “Christ died for my sins,” when he did not really “die” at all, are making a statement that is false in its own terms.)

Having no reliable or consistent witnesses, in anything like the time period needed to certify such an extraordinary claim, we are finally entitled to say that we have a right, if not an obligation, to respect ourselves enough to disbelieve the entire claim of Jesus’ Resurrection.

Hercules was not the son of Zeus. Jesus is not the Son of God. Can we not believe this and yet still find his precepts for living with Earth’s fellow inhabitants worthy of emulation? Or are Jesus’ prescriptions and proscriptions only valid if tinged with the Divine?

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  • Vincent Codrington

    So there is a Divine to tinge it with? Wow!!

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  • Here is a man who is clearly speaking from a secular perspective and has little or no understanding of what the spiritual reality surrounding the idea of Jesus is about …

    The God tells us in the Scripture that My ways are not your ways and My thoughts are not your thoughts …

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ Lexicon at 5:11 AM

    How true. I find it illogical that people find time to debate something that they assert does not exist.

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  • Dozens of historically verifiable sources DEBUNK* what the “MESSIAH DENIERS” purport:

    From the Babylonian Talmud, one of the most significant references to YESHUA (JESUS) from this period states:

    “On the eve of the Passover, Yeshua was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald … cried, “He is going forth to be stoned because he has practised sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy.” (cited from Habermas: ‘The Historical Jesus’ p. 202-03).

    Flavius Josephus, for example, in a piece entitled: “The Testimonium Flavianum” opine:-

    “About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. He was the Messiah. And when, upon the accusation of the principal men among us, Pilate had condemned him to a cross, those who had first come to love him did not cease. He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him. And the tribe of the Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared.” (Translation from Loeb Classical Library)

    In an Arabic manuscript of Josephus written around the 10th century suggest that “At this time there was a wise man who was called Jesus. And his conduct was good, and [he] was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. And those who had become his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive. Accordingly, he was perhaps the Messiah concerning whom the prophets have recounted wonders.”

    Another historical source can be found in the Roman historian & senator Tacitus in referring to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate & the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work – “Annals” (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44…

    When ancient Rome under Emperor Nero, decided to blame the Christians for the fire that virtually destroyed Rome in A.D. 64, the Roman historian Tacitus wrote:

    “Nero fastened the guilt … on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of … Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil but even in Rome…”

    Even a classical antiquities STANDUP comedian had something to say about JESUS* & the CHRISTIANS:

    Lucian of Samosata, a 2nd-century Greek satirist in his own words said this about early Christians:

    “The Christians … worship a man to this day – the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account…. [It] was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws…” (Lucian of Samosata, “The Death of Peregrine”, p. 11-13)

    So according to the historical record, after Jesus’ death on the cross & his burial in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathaea, he appeared ALIVE* to more than 500 PEOPLE, on twelve (12) separate occasions before His Ascension back to heaven!!!

    IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE…

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  • Testimony of Jesus the Christ

    They were Twelve people who used to follow Christ. They had a few people that were associated that thought he was good, a holy man and could have been the Messiah. Whatever, not withstanding all the Miracles and witness to those Miracles including feeding the Five Thousand.

    Even when he raised a man from the dead, they could have said the man was sleeping.

    And although the Twelve thought he was the Messiah they were devastated at his death. Their world crumbled.

    When he rose from the dead before he ascended to heaven he met many people and many saw him and at his assentation there were six hundred people present. It was not just out of the mouth of two or three witnesses this was 600 people.

    They have been no disputation among the witnesses that he raised from the dead.

    They have always been just like you, disputations by people that were not there.

    This one Fact of his Resurrection having an immortal body, able to display the wounds and still not bleed to death, had such a profound effect on the Twelve that they preached Christ Resurrected from the dead.

    Charles Knighton in your take down of Christianity you try to take away the Stake that made Christianity Christianity and All the Old Testament leading to that point. You’re Hypothesis and it just that, an Airy Fairy Hypothesis, cannot conceive of what it means about the Lamb being Sacrificed to Pay for the Sins of the world on Condition of Repentance.

    We all Sin, we have all committed sins in our lives, as we get older and we think we have changed for the better and even if we don’t do the foolishness that we once did, we are still guilty of the foolishness and we will pay the price for that because the foolishness we did negatively impacted others.

    Charles Knighton you have sought to undermine the whole basis of the Atonement by believing in manmade ethics rather than the Redemption of man by the God of Creation.

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  • Reading the Bible is not like reading a novel. This is because the Bible’s words are much more than just ink on paper. Each word of Scripture is a spiritual nugget full of rich meaning. You may find yourself reading the same Bible passage again and again, searching for this meaning. But you are missing something. It is time to start a new Biblical journey – it is time to change the way you search…

    MORE ANON

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  • Charles Knighton ….
    And the rest must come to know that the bowl of Afrikan spirituality is from whence everything flows.

    Europeans, like Knighton, or European minded others, always set, as their point of departure – Greece or Rome – when we now know with certianty that everything they claim was indeed taught them by Afrikans, Black Afrikans.

    So Zeus himself was no more than a carbon copy of the one they call Osirus. All of the gods are copies from their Afrikan ancestors.

    At this time Europeans and their ilk, like GEORGIE PORGIE, do not even know, or want to recognize that all spirituality, regardless of current claims comes from an Afrikan bowl. And the primary ingredient therein is Obeah, or Voodoo, and the like.

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  • How does a believer debate the Bible and religion with non believers?

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  • David

    Again you have asked the wrong question.

    The right question should be about the authenticity of that book of lies, 100,000 lies in the first part alone

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  • The Bible does not define religion (generally) and ones belief.

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  • RE The right question should be about the authenticity of that book of lies,

    IF YOU STUDY BIBLIOLOGY YOU WILL LEARN THAT THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE BIBLLE IS SUPREME BECAUSE OF THE AVAILABLE NUMBER OF EXTANT COPIES AS COMPARED TO THOSE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE OF OTHER BOOKS WHOSE AUTHENTICITY IS ACCEPTED

    RE How does a believer debate the Bible and religion with non believers?

    A BETTER QUESTION IS How does a believer debate the Bible WITH A BIBLE ILLITERATE AGNOSTIC ATHEIST/

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU at 11 :25. AM

    The answer is” one does not”. It is a belief. It is not amenable to what we call rationality. It is a knowing. One does not rationalise God. One experiences Him in one’s life and see Him in others’.
    As GP imply ,there is no common ground. No agreeable premise.

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  • Wha happen to de fishes ?

    ““There’s no season. No fish are coming; we can hardly get any to sell. You don’t see how dead the market is? In the past the market would never be like this, ”

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/239358/worst-season-vendors

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU at 11 :25. AM

    The answer is” one does not”. It is a belief. It is not amenable to what we call rationality. It is a knowing. One does not rationalise God. One experiences Him in one’s life and see Him in
    others’.
    As GP implies ,there is no common ground. No agreeable premise.

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  • It all goes back to FAITH
    YUP that word which comes out of the mouth of theologians to keep believers on the straight and narrow

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  • Non believers would stick to asking for scientific findings as proof of all that is written in the bible
    Belivers rely on Faith as first and only acceptance of what is written in the bible
    The Resurrection of Jesus a belief and accepted by christains all but sealed in the minds of belivers that there was a Jesus who is the Son of God.
    The non belivers would not cross that threshold of beliving in the Ressurection unless scientific proof bears such facts

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  • God knows us and invites us to know Him. We need to Pray to the Father, Study the Scriptures, Seek to do God’s will, Strive to become like the Savior, and follow and the Direction of the Good Shepherd who knows his sheep and his sheep know him for they are acquainted with his voice. As we do, we will come to know God and Jesus Christ, and we will inherit eternal life.

    John 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

    Greatest man in history, had no servants, yet they called him Master. Had no degree, yet they called him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today. His name is Jesus.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ Mariposa at 12 :50 PM

    I hope you realise that” scientific proof” is just another contrivance of Man to which we have agreed pro tempore.

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  • WHAT IS FAITH?
    THE BIBLE DEFINES IT IN HEBREWS 11

    Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

    2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.

    3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

    4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

    5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

    6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

    7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

    8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.

    9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:

    10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

    11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised.

    12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.

    13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

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  • HERE IS A GOOD VIDEO FOR THE IDIOT WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT SCIENCE BUT WHO OPINES The non belivers would not cross that threshold of beliving in the Ressurection unless scientific proof bears such facts

    HOW DOES A NON SCIENTIST UNDESTAND THAT things which are seen were not made of things which do appear?.

    HOW DOES A NON SCIENTIST UNDESTAND THAT the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:?

    HOW DOES A NON SCIENTIST AND A BIBLE ILLITERATE UNDESTAND HOW TO RELATE THESE TWO BIBLE VERSES ABOVE WITH COLLOSIANS 1:14-17?
    In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

    15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

    17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    “(T)he substance of things hoped for ;the evidence of things not seen.” Eloquently translated. Thanks, GP.

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  • HERE ARE A FEW PARAGRAPHS FROM MY DMIN THESIS WHICH ADDRESSES THE ABOVE

    We will not here enter into the creation/evolution debate, and the various controversial hypotheses of man that challenge the Genesis record and seek to drown the clear voice of God. We will however point out that one of the greatest ironies of current civilization, is the National Geographic and Discovery Channel television shows that are beamed across the world highlighting the life histories of flora and fauna. Though made essentially for entertainment and educational purposes, these shows prove that natural selection could not have accounted for the origin of the species. They ought therefore to be used by all discerning believers as very helpful tools in proving the fact of creation and counteracting the nonsense peddled in evolutionary theories. The continuation of the creation/ evolution debate suggests that evolutionists are behind in their scientific reading, and in simply viewing good television programs. It demonstrates too that it is unbelievable what men are willing to believe to remain unbelievers.

    We can now destroy the critics on their grounds without even opening the Blessed book to remind them from Job 38:4 that man is really totally unqualified to comment on the origin of the universe since he was not around when God laid its foundations. In our discussions of origins, we must either accept by faith the speculations of man or the revelation of God. It is however noteworthy, as pointed out above that the discoveries of man, has contributed immensely to an understanding of the fact of creation at the sub-molecular level.

    For example, Hebrews 11:3 after stating that we understand by faith that the worlds came into being simply by the word of God, asserts plainly and simply that “things which are seen [visible things] were [are] not made of things which do appear [or that can be readily seen].” This is common knowledge that has been explained by scientists in the last century by kinetic theory and the various discoveries of the components of the structure of the atom. We can therefore scientifically prove that this verse is absolutely true.

    The created things that we can see are all composed of constituents that we cannot see-things that do not exist. The tangible things on terra firma and beyond are created out of nothing-ex nihilo- exactly as the Bible states in Genesis 1:1, 21, and 27, where we have described respectively, the creation of something from nothing, the creation of life, and the creation of human life.

    This verse corroborates Genesis 1:1 in teaching that the creation was made out of nothing. Hebrews 11:3 thus gives us both a macroscopic and a sub microscopic view of creation. This is now common knowledge in the scientific world, and information that is easy to understand, even by High School kids.

    Romans 1:20 is another potent pill against the poison of the devil’s evolutionary teachers. It is a corroboration of Hebrews 11:3. Whereas Hebrews 11:3 teaches that the things that we can see are made from things that we cannot see, Romans 1:20 teaches that the invisible things or the sub-microscopic things of the creation that we can not see are clearly manifested by the macroscopic things that we can see. Furthermore, Paul asserts that this is an indication of the power of God.

    Paul is saying that it takes great power to enable the submicroscopic invisible components of the things that God has created to become condensed into macroscopic things that we can see, feel, taste etc.

    Scientists know that great power or kinetic energy is involved, because when chemicals react they commonly give of energy in the form of heat. Honest scientists know that this verse is true. We don’t need faith to believe these two Scripture verses. The truth of these verses can be reproduced in laboratories any and every day.

    God has revealed these truths to us in the last 90 years or so. The scientific scriptures are all now established facts. This certainly facilitates our accepting by faith the rest of Scriptures. If we can see the truths in these Scriptures, then what is so hard to believe about the rest of the Bible? A God that can condense the invisible into the visible as we understand it according to kinetic theory, and relevant aspects of Physical Chemistry, can in my view, easily perform with the order, power, progress and perfection as described in Genesis 1-2. Once one grasps the deep truths of Hebrews 11:3 and Romans 1:20, Genesis 1:1 is obviously fact!

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  • JESUS IS OUR SAVIOR NOT OUR CONDEMNER…

    Repentance has been the word that Prophets from old to new has spoken about. It is putting away the old self to become a better self, one that wants to do better. They are many things that lead us to do wrong whither it was a friend when we were young whither it was somebody that we looked up to that led us on the wrong path, whither it is our own desires or whither it the influence of the evil one.

    We as children of God would want to respect our Heritage. Repentance offers the opportunity for us to choose the path of ‘happiness’ rather than the path of ‘unhappiness’. This method is the way laid out for us that we in time can become perfect as he is.

    In life we all make mistakes some more grave than others and we all don’t make the same mistakes that is why the Gospel is unto Repentance. The invitation to repent is an expression of love and happiness and joy and good feelings. It is for us to choose the better way.

    This process of self-regeneration is the wonderful method that God has given as his plan of happiness. They are many other lessons to learn along this path but they are given when we are able to bear /comprehend it but it is always for our benefit that we may become joint heirs with him as he has promised. And this method of Repentance we employ and use our whole life.

    Through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, our Father in Heaven has provided the only way for us to be forgiven of our sins and the method is Repentance. Jesus Christ suffered the penalty for our sins so we can be forgiven if we sincerely repent. As we repent and rely on His saving grace, we will be cleansed from sin.

    The divine gift of repentance is the key to happiness here and hereafter. Without forgiveness of ourselves and others in our lives we would constantly be in conflict with ourselves and others. We cannot control the lives of others or should we want to but we can control who we may become by this process of repentance.

    The Image conveys the Destitution of our Souls in Sin as we all are and are being offered a hand up by our Creator and Savior.

    In The Garden of Gethsemane the Greatest Price was paid… By that we must each listen to his voice…He does indeed walk and talk to each of us and the more we listen the more Joy we will Experience.

    His Way is the Melody of Truth, and His Invitation to Repent is an Expression of love, Happiness, Joy and Good Feelings. It is for us to choose the better way.

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  • Many scientists after discovering what GP speaks of have actually become believers in a creator God.

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  • As the Creator Christ is Responsible for His Creation and has allowed the Fall of Man that we may Taste the Bitter that we would know how to Prize the Good. Being Responsible for His Creation is why he paid the Ultimate price. The Kingdom of Heaven is within”…”I am the Light of the world”. That Light dwells in each of his Children and influences our Consciences… That only in and through His name is our Salvation assured, only he and he alone could pay the Ultimate Price for our Sins on Condition of True Repentance. It was an Infinite and Eternal Sacrifice that only God Himself could undertake! We Experience Sorrow that we may Know unspeakable Joy.

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  • Where in the Bible is a “process of self-regeneration” taught?

    Where in the Bible is it taught that it was in “The Garden of Gethsemane the Greatest Price was paid? Where?

    Please kindly furnish the relevant Bible references for the above false teaching

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    Forgive the Sand Devil Dr GP, she and her leader are both babblers who know nothing and cut and paste nuff

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  • Re “Jesus was the first gene-spliced man. Human mother, divine Father.” Shekinah Medical Centre advertisement, “Gene Therapy“, April 14 Sunday Sun

    What exactly does the above quote mean?
    It would be more instructive to cite Hebrews 2: 14
    Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
    15And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
    16For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
    17Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
    18For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

    In this amazing passage, we are to understand that whereas we are “partakers of flesh and blood, he (i.e Jesus)also himself likewise took part of the same.”

    It is noteworthy that the word “partaker” is in the passive voice in the Greek and indicates that our partaking of flesh and blood, was something that was done to us; we had no part in it.
    In contrast, the phrase “took part” is in the active voice in the Greek and indicates that Jesus’ partaking of flesh and blood was something that he chose to do so that
    1 through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
    2 he might deliver us who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
    3 he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, 4 he might make reconciliation for the sins of the people
    5 he might be able to succour us when tempted.

    Charles Knighton then goes on in his abysmal ignorance to assert that whereas believers scoff at the idea that the ancient bovine excremental “idea of divine beings producing children with human mothers” they “believe that their God impregnated Mary simply demonstrates the grip superstition continues to hold on minds that should have evolved more fully over the millennia.”
    Such an opinion makes me believe that there are some betzpaenic morons among us whose brain function has regressed significantly and undergone dysplasia.

    The moron continues to state “The action of a man who volunteers to die for his fellow men is universally regarded as noble.” In so doing he is obviously oblivious of the clear teaching of Romans 5:6-10 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
    7For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
    8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
    9Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
    10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

    The Biblical illiterate then accentuates his ignorance by saying “The extra claim not to have “really” died makes the whole sacrifice tricky and meretricious. (Thus, those who say “Christ died for my sins,” when he did not really “die” at all, are making a statement that is false in its own terms.)

    One can easily demonstrate by flicking through a good Bible concordance that there are numerous scriptures that point out that “Christ died for sins.” …SUCH AS 2 CORINTHIANS 5:21

    For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

    OR COLLOSAIANS 2:13-15 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

    14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

    15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

    OR 1 PETER 3:18
    For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

    dreamstarworld At April 18, 2019 8:57 AM by citing the Roman historians Flavius Josephus, and Tacitus, have completely debunked the rabid ridiculous claims in this Knighton’s rubbish when he posits that we have “ no reliable or consistent witnesses, in anything like the time period needed to certify such an extraordinary claim, we are finally entitled to say that we have a right, if not an obligation, to respect ourselves enough to disbelieve the entire claim of Jesus’ Resurrection”

    Here we see AN IGNOMINIOUS MARRIAGE OF IGNORANCE AND ASSTIN-ESQUE ARROGANCE .

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  • For those interested in learning about Basis Bibliology, why not go to https://rbthieme.org/index.html and request R BThieme’s booklet on CANONICITY which vividly describes the divine inspiration that produced the Bible.

    As the revelation of God the Bible is the most widely read, the most influential, and the most enduring book ever published.
    Canonicity answers many perplexing questions such as
    How was the Bible preserved through the centuries?
    Is the Apocrypha actually a part of the Word?
    What about the Dead Sea Scrolls?
    For the student of Bible doctrine, a knowledge of the historical formation of the Word of God is a source of strength to defend against the numerous attacks upon the authenticity and authority of the Bible.

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  • Vincent Codrington April 18, 2019 1:16 PM

    @ Mariposa at 12 :50 PM

    I hope you realise that” scientific proof” is just another contrivance of Man to which we have agreed pro tempore.

    No i do not agree there is enough substantial scientific proof/ that the earth is round

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  • Vincent Codrington April 18, 2019 1:16 PM

    @ Mariposa at 12 :50 PM

    I hope you realise that” scientific proof” is just another contrivance of Man to which we have agreed pro tempore.

    No i do not agree there is enough substantial scientific proof/ that the earth is round

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  • HERE IS A GOOD SERMON OUTLINE FOR EASTER

    What If There Had Been No Easter?
    1 Corinthians 15:12-20

    INTRODUCTION
    There is an unthinkable question: What if there had been no Easter? What if there had been no Easter and death had conquered?
    After Jesus Christ was crucified, He was in the tomb for three days; and then He rose from the grave, conquering sin and death.

    If Jesus had not risen from the dead, six tragic things would then be true.
    PREACHING WOULD BE PROFITLESS (1 Corinthians 15:14)
    If Christ is still in the grave, then preaching is an exercise in futility.
    FAITH WOULD BE FOOLISH (1 Corinthians 15:14) FOR Faith is no better than its object.
    Our faith in Jesus Christ is not worth anything if Jesus Christ is still in the grave.
    We know that Jesus is the Son of God because of His resurrection.
    Romans 1:4

    THE DISCIPLES WOULD BE DECEIVERS (1 Corinthians 15:15-16)
    If Jesus is still in the grave, then the disciples would have been false witnesses.
    The disciples were tortured, persecuted, and died as martyrs.
    A man may live for a lie; but few, if any, will die for a lie.
    Hypocrites and martyrs are not made of the same stuff.

    SIN WOULD BE SOVEREIGN (1 Corinthians 15:17)
    We are all sinners by birth, by nature, by practice, and by choice.
    If Jesus is still in the grave, then we have no hope of forgiveness.
    God cannot simply overlook sin. If God were to cease to judge sin, then God would cease to be holy.
    If Jesus is still in the grave, then that would mean that God did not accept the sacrifice of Calvary. But we know that God did accept the sacrifice of Calvary because of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
    Romans 4:25
    Romans 6:23
    Ezekiel 18:20

    DEATH WOULD HAVE DOMINION (1 Corinthians 15:18)
    If Jesus is still in the grave, then death would have dominion.
    Because Jesus, in the form of a man, came to this earth, grappled with the iron bars of death, and rose from the grave, then we, too, can have victory over death.

    THE FUTURE WOULD BE FEARFUL (1 Corinthians 15:19)
    Someone once said, “If Jesus Christ is still in that grave, nothing really matters. But if Jesus Christ came out of that grave, nothing but that really matters.”
    Without the resurrection, we would be of all men most miserable.
    Because of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, we have a hope for the future that is steadfast and sure.

    CONCLUSION
    Because Jesus Christ rose from the dead:
    Preaching is profitable.
    Faith is feasible.
    The disciples are dependable.
    Sin has been subdued.
    Death has been defeated.
    The future is fabulous.
    Do you know Jesus Christ?

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    @ Hants,

    A couple of weeks ago, I raised this very same point. We in the Caribbean have turned a blind eye towards foreign nations. Especially, China who have been illegally poaching fish within our territory over a number of decades. That our Caribbean region has a depleted fish stock within its waters should not surprise learned people.

    Just for the records Hants. The same problem occurred in Somalia. It deprived fisherman of their potential to earn an honest living and had an immediate knock on effect in the wider economy of that country. It spawned the growth of piracy within the country which later morphed into the birth of Al Shabaab.

    https://www.newsmax.com/evanellis/latin-america-fishing-china/2018/12/13/id/894322/

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ GP

    Two interesting sermons. I have learnt from experience not to argue with atheists and agnostics.

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  • Question Why is the resurrection of Jesus Christ important?
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    Answer: The resurrection of Jesus is important for several reasons.

    First, the resurrection witnesses to the immense power of God Himself. To believe in the resurrection is to believe in God. If God exists, and if He created the universe and has power over it, then He has power to raise the dead. If He does not have such power, He is not worthy of our faith and worship.

    Only He who created life can resurrect it after death, only He can reverse the hideousness that is death itself, and only He can remove the sting and gain the victory over the grave (1 Corinthians 15:54–55). In resurrecting Jesus from the grave, God reminds us of His absolute sovereignty over life and death.

    The resurrection of Jesus Christ is also important because it validates who Jesus claimed to be, namely, the Son of God and Messiah.

    According to Jesus, His resurrection was the “sign from heaven” that authenticated His ministry (Matthew 16:1–4) and the proof that He had authority over even the temple in Jerusalem (John 2:18–22). The resurrection of Jesus Christ, attested to by hundreds of eyewitnesses (1 Corinthians 15:3–8), provides irrefutable proof that He is the Savior of the world.

    Another reason the resurrection of Jesus Christ is important is that it proves His sinless character and divine nature.

    The Scriptures said God’s “Holy One” would never see corruption (Psalm 16:10), and Jesus never saw corruption, even after He died (see Acts 13:32–37). It was on the basis of the resurrection of Christ that Paul preached, “Through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin” (Acts 13:38–39).

    The resurrection of Jesus Christ is not only the supreme validation of His deity; it also validates the Old Testament prophecies that foretold of Jesus’ suffering and resurrection (see Acts 17:2–3). Christ’s resurrection also authenticated His own claims that He would be raised on the third day (Mark 8:31; 9:31; 10:34).

    If Jesus Christ is not resurrected, then we have no hope that we will be, either. In fact, apart from Christ’s resurrection, we have no Savior, no salvation, and no hope of eternal life. As Paul said, our faith would be “useless,” the gospel would be altogether powerless, and our sins would remain unforgiven (1 Corinthians 15:14–19).

    Jesus said, “I am the resurrection and the life” (John 11:25), and in that statement claimed to be the source of both. There is no resurrection apart from Christ, no eternal life.

    Jesus does more than give life; He is life, and that’s why death has no power over Him. Jesus confers His life on those who trust in Him, so that we can share His triumph over death (1 John 5:11–12). We who believe in Jesus Christ will personally experience resurrection because, having the life Jesus gives, we have overcome death. It is impossible for death to win (1 Corinthians 15:53–57).

    Jesus is “the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep” (1 Corinthians 15:20). In other words, Jesus led the way in life after death.

    The resurrection of Jesus Christ is important as a testimony to the resurrection of human beings, which is a basic tenet of the Christian faith. Unlike other religions,

    Christianity possesses a Founder who transcends death and promises that His followers will do the same. Every other religion was founded by men or prophets whose end was the grave. As Christians, we know that God became man, died for our sins, and was resurrected the third day. The grave could not hold Him. He lives, and He sits today at the right hand of the Father in heaven (Hebrews 10:12).

    The Word of God guarantees the believer’s resurrection at the coming of Jesus Christ for His church at the rapture. Such assurance results in a great song of triumph as Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 15:55, “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?” (cf. Hosea 13:14).

    The importance of the resurrection of Christ has an impact on our service to the Lord now. Paul ends his discourse on resurrection with these words:

    “Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain” (1 Corinthians 15:58). Because we know we will be resurrected to new life, we can endure persecution and danger for Christ’s sake (verses 30–32), just as our Lord did.

    Because of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, thousands of Christian martyrs through history have willingly traded their earthly lives for everlasting life and the promise of resurrection.

    The resurrection is the triumphant and glorious victory for every believer.

    Jesus Christ died, was buried, and rose the third day according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:3–4). And He is coming again! The dead in Christ will be raised up, and those who are alive at His coming will be changed and receive new, glorified bodies (1 Thessalonians 4:13–18).

    Why is the resurrection of Jesus Christ important?

    It proves who Jesus is. It demonstrates that God accepted Jesus’ sacrifice on our behalf. It shows that God has the power to raise us from the dead. It guarantees that the bodies of those who believe in Christ will not remain dead but will be resurrected unto eternal life.

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  • The only connection submitted as proof that Jesus was ressurected is FAITH
    Science has never nor ever found solid verifiable scientific proof that a person dead after three days can arise from the dead
    My theory on the Ressurection lends itself to a political upheaveal during the time of Jesus ministry
    The high hierarchy of that time saw him as a threat to their laws
    Yes i belive He was cruicified but in so doing the lawmakers had a bigger problem on their hand with maybe weeks of chaos in villages which could not be contained.
    Hence it is my view that an imposter was given as a replacement to quench the anger and chaos of Jesus followers
    I say the above because those who walked with Jesus when he was alive was unable to recognize him without asking for proof a proof of nail prints which could have been easily placed in an impostor hands if the hierachy demand that be done

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  • How Important Is the Resurrection to Christianity?

    The resurrection of Jesus Christ is the central truth of the Christian faith. Without it there is no such thing as the Christian faith.

    Long ago man named Job asked the big question, that sooner or later every human being has to face.
    If a person dies, will they live again? (Job 14:14).

    This same question remains to this day, “Is this life all that there is? Or is there life beyond the grave? Is it possible for anyone to know the answer to this question?”
    The Christian’s answer to Job’s question is the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.

    The Place Of The Resurrection In The New Testament
    The resurrection of Christ occupies a central place in the New Testament. It is mentioned directly over one hundred times.

    It Is The Focal Point Of The Christian Faith
    The message of the early Christians, and the focal point of the New Testament, was stated in this simple truth by the Apostle Paul:

    Jesus Christ, risen from the dead (2 Timothy 2:8).
    This is the central truth of the Christian faith. The importance of the resurrection of Jesus Christ cannot be overemphasized. Without the resurrection there is no Christianity.

    The Resurrection Was The Central Teaching Of The Apostles
    The resurrection was central to the teaching and preaching in the Apostles. It was the subject of every sermon we find in the Book of Acts.

    Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ (Acts 2:36).

    The apostles proclaimed Jesus’ resurrection.
    They were greatly disturbed because the apostles were teaching the people and proclaiming in Jesus the resurrection of the dead (Acts 4:2).

    Paul said.
    For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead (Acts 17:31).

    It Was The Substance Of Their Teaching

    The substance of the preaching of the early church was the resurrection of Christ. However, many of the Jew rejected Jesus because He died on the cross. The Old Testament says.
    You must not leave his body on the tree overnight. Be sure to bury him that same day, because anyone who is hung on a tree is under God’s curse (Deuteronomy 21:33).
    Yet there were many Jews who were converted to Him.
    So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and there were added that day about three thousand souls (Acts 2:41).
    This includes a number of priests who believed in Jesus.
    And the word of God kept on spreading; and the number of the disciples continued to increase greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were becoming obedient to the faith (Acts 6:7).
    The only explanation for so many Jews accepting Jesus as their Messiah was His resurrection.

    The Resurrection Is The Cornerstone Of Christianity

    The Apostle Paul wrote to the church in Corinth:
    Now if Christ is preached, that he has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised; and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain. Moreover we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we witnessed against God that he raised Christ, whom he did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised; and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied (1 Corinthians 15:12-19).

    Notice how clearly Paul stated the matter – no resurrection, no Christianity.

    If Jesus Had Not Been Raised, Then The Following Would Be True
    According to Paul, if Christ has not been raised then the following five things would be true.

    Christian preaching is empty and so in anyone’s faith because the object of the faith, Christ, is not whom He said He was.
    The apostles are liars for testifying to a resurrection that did not occur.
    No forgiveness has been granted for anybody’s sin.
    Those who have died believing in Christ have no hope.
    If hope in Christ is limited to this life, Christians are to be pitied above all people.

    There Is No Meaning For Humanity If Christ Is Not Risen

    Without the resurrection, Christianity has no meaning for humanity – its founder would have been a liar and a failure, and its followers would have no hope. Thus the importance of the resurrection to Christian faith cannot be overestimated.

    There are those who say that even without the resurrection, Christianity has significance. They hold that Christ’s teachings provide ethical guidelines for humanity. The New Testament, however, testifies that this is not the case. Without the resurrection there is no meaningful Christianity.

    There Are Other Areas Of Importance Of The Resurrection
    We add further areas of importance of Christ’s resurrection. It is important to Jesus’ identity, to His true character to His ministry, and to His message.

    It Is Important To His Identity
    The resurrection is crucial to confirming the identity of Jesus.
    And declared to be the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead. (Romans 1:4)
    It Is Important To His True Character
    If Christ did not rise then He was a liar, for He predicted He would come back from the dead.
    Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem; and the Son of Man will be delivered to the chief priests and scribes, and they will condemn him to death, and will hand him over to the Gentiles to mock and scourge and crucify him, and on the third day he will be raised up (Matthew 20:18,19).

    The resurrection authenticates Him as a true prophet. Without His resurrection everything that Jesus said would be subject to doubt.

    It Is Important To His Ministry
    If Jesus did not rise, then His ministry would have ended in defeat. Believers would not have a High Priest to intercede for them to God the Father. There would be no one to head the church and no one to indwell believers and give them power to live godly lives.

    It Is Important To His Message
    According to the Apostle Paul, the resurrection of Jesus is one of the four pillars of the gospel message. He wrote.
    For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that he was buried, and that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures and that he appeared to . . . (1 Corinthians 15:3-5).
    These four pillars are:
    1. Christ died.
    2. Christ was buried
    3. Christ was raised.
    4. Christ appeared.

    Without the resurrection there is no gospel message. Its importance to the Christian faith cannot be overestimated.

    The Resurrection Was Unique To Christianity

    The resurrection of Jesus Christ is unique to the Christian faith – no other religious figure has ever predicted his own resurrection, and then accomplished it. All of the other world religions are based on a founder who lived in the past and whose religion is his only legacy. Mohammed died at age 61 on June 8, A.D. 632 in Medina. He is still dead. Confucius died and Buddha also died. They also remain dead – Jesus Christ is alive.

    Summary
    The resurrection of Jesus Christ is central to the Christian faith. It is mentioned over one hundred times in the New Testament. It was the main point for each sermon in the Book of Acts. Without it there is no Christian faith. Paul said the resurrection is important to the believer for a number of reasons. He said that Christian preaching is empty if Jesus did not come back from the dead. The faith of the believer is worthless if Christ is not risen because he is the object of the faith. In addition, Christ, is not whom He said He was. He would have been a liar. The apostles are also liars for testifying to a resurrection that did not occur. Furthermore, there is no forgiveness for anybody’s sin. Those who have died believing in Christ have no hope. If hope in Christ is limited to this life, Christians are to be pitied above all people.

    The resurrection is also important to the identity and mission of Jesus. First, the resurrection is important to His identity. The resurrection is the demonstration that Jesus indeed is the Son of God. The resurrection is also important to His character. Jesus would not have been a true prophet had He not come back from the dead as He predicted that He would. It is important to Jesus’ ministry. If He did not come back from the dead then His ministry would have ended in defeat. Finally, it is important to His message. The centrality of the Christian message is that Jesus died and then came back from the dead. If He did not come back from the dead then there is no Christianity.

    Consequently we see that the resurrection of Jesus Christ is absolutely crucial to the Christian faith.

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  • Christians overlook the political climate of that time where by a man called Jesus the Son of God came to make a change while accumulating hundreds of follwers
    His words and actions would have most likely rattled the nerves of those in charge of goverence
    Hence he had to be disposed by way of crucifixion which would have left his followers angry and upset leading to riots and upheaveal and for govt to find a solution to what the people were asking for.
    Is the resurrection a hoax
    Did Jesus say he would be buried and return in three days
    Or is this an interpretation of what the christain theologian by giving the people what they want to hear
    Mankind are creatures of gratification and having that need filled can be a reason why we can be easily manipulated and fool
    Did the hierachy of that time in their earnest to fill a yearning of gratification fooled the Jesus followers by delivering to them in human form an impostor called Jesus

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  • re those who walked with Jesus when he was alive was unable to recognize him without asking for proof a proof of nail prints

    which could have been easily placed in an impostor hands if the hierachy demand that be done
    ONLY AN IDIOT OF THE ORDER OF A MEMBER OF THE LOWEST OF THE EQUINOIDS WOULD MAKE SUCH A MORONIC STATEMENT

    HE WAS NOT RECOGNIZABLE JUST AS PREDICTED BY Isaiah 52:14

    Never had a crucified person been beaten as Jesus was. He was beaten so severely as the prophetic words of Isaiah 52:14 spoken seven centuries earlier predicted that He would be beaten so badly that He would be “disfigured beyond that of any man” and “beyond human likeness” were fulfilled.

    As many were astonished at you— his appearance was so marred, beyond human semblance, and his form beyond that of the children of mankind. (Isaiah 52:14).

    THE ONLY ONE WHO ASKED FOR PROOF OF NAIL PRINTS WAS THOMAS –JOHN 20: 24 ET SECQ

    WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT HERE THOUGH IS WHAT JESUS SAID IN JOHN 20: 29

    Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

    IT IS AMAZING WHAT PETER SAYS ABOUT THE VERSEABOVE IN 1 PETER 1:8 et secq

    Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

    9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

    10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

    11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

    12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

    13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

    14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

    WHEN I WAS A TREBLE BOY IN THE ANGLICAN CHURCH, WE USED TO SING OF 1 PETER 1:8 THUS

    O SAVIOUR PRECIOUS SAVIOUR
    THOU YET UNSEEN WE LOVE
    OH NAME OF MIGHT AND FAVOUR
    ALL OTHER NAMES ABOVE
    WE WORSHIP THEE WE BLESS THEE
    TO THEE ALONE WE SING

    IF FOLK DONT BELIEVE OR KNOW THE WORD OF GOD IT WOULD BE BEST IF THEY WOULD SHUT UP LISTEN AND LEARN

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  • EVIDENCE THAT DEMANDS A VERDICT BY By Josh McDowell IS THE SEMINAL WORK ON THESE ISSUES

    FOR THOSE WHO GENUINELY SEEK AN INFORMED OPINION ON THIS SUBJECT , CHEAP USED COPIES MAY BE SOUGHT HERE .=>

    https://www.google.com/search?q=AUTHOR+OF+EVIDENCE+THAT+DEMANDS+A+VERDICT&oq=AUTHOR+OF+EVIDENCE+THAT+DEMANDS+A+VERDICT&aqs=chrome..69i57j33l5.28118j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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  • Who wrote the bible
    Another question christains like to avoid
    However a reality that man wrote rewrite and revised the Word
    A higher than higher possibility that some words or comments attributed to Jesus could be tainted by man rush for selfgratification
    One example that comes to mind The last Supper words to the effect “do this in remembrance of me” words said by Jesus at his last meeting with the disciples
    Yet we have a jesus who after using bread and wine as a symbol of rememberence of himself returns three days
    later
    How could that be when tge symbol of his remeberance meant that Jesus would been leaving them for a long time

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  • Where in the bible is their mention of Good Friday
    Whose idea of brilliance to called Friday the day on which Jesus was crucified a Good Friday
    Then we have the Term Easter a word never mention in the bible

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  • I am a product if indoctrination
    So what is your point

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  • Have a Good Friday.

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  • Good Friday to you also David … It is interesting that BU Easter Message Responses has to under an Article by an Atheist???

    That is Indeed Sorrowful.

    Freedom has offered you Spiritual Articles, to date of which they are now Twelve and in the Process of being Published as a Book.

    You made your choice not to share them at that time, now that period has passed and looks what is published on BU instead.

    Anyhow those who have a Testimony of Christ came here to share their understanding of the Messiah including Freedom Crier but you choose to delete Freedoms post because GP accused Freedom because of his misunderstanding of what I wrote and replied would hopefully have answered his misunderstanding and you deleted the answers David…Why? Did you read my response and if so was it rational and believable or did you choose to delete Freedoms post because Pieces aka Legion chimed in and called her a cut and paste BLA BLA…Would not be the first time David Freedom has noticed this pattern with you.

    Tell me David are Voices Limited here in their Spiritual Expression and Understanding…When Freedom takes the time to share knowledge and understanding you choose to Disregard Freedoms efforts so easily by listening to your BU favourites and being led wrongfully to delete valuable contributions…

    Truly Limiting Freedom of Speech is an INJUSTICE to both the Deliverer and those who would have received.

    For your Information David here are just Three of GP Post on BU that I have no Problem with as he is sharing the Good news… But Please Note …Freedom is accused of Paste and Copy…However …

    If There Had Been No Easter?
    March 24, 2016
    1 Corinthians 15:12-20 (Program: 2404, Air date: 4.20.2014)
    I. INTRODUCTION
    A. There is an unthinkable question: What if there had been no Easter?
    https://www.lwf.org/sermon-outlines/what-if-there-had-been-no-easter

    Georgie Porgie
    April 18, 2019 7:04 PM
    Why is the resurrection of Jesus Christ important?

    Question: “Why is the resurrection of Jesus Christ important?”

    Answer: The resurrection of Jesus is important for several reasons.

    https://www.gotquestions.org/resurrection-Christ-important.html

    Georgie Porgie

    April 18, 2019 9:50 PM

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_811.cfm
    Don Stewart :: How Important Is the
    The resurrection of Jesus Christ is the central truth of the Christian faith. Without it there is no such thing as the Christian faith.
    Long ago man named Job asked the big question, that sooner or later every human being has to face.

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  • Georgie Porgie April 18, 2019 2:31 PM

    Re…“Where in the Bible is a “process of self-regeneration” taught?”

    This process of self-regeneration is the wonderful method that God has given as his plan of happiness. Repentance has been the word that Prophets from old to new has spoken about. It is putting away the old self to become a better self, one that wants to do better. Is that not a Process of self-regeneration?

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  • Georgie Porgie April 18, 2019 2:31 PM

    Re “Where in the Bible is it taught that it was in “The Garden of Gethsemane the Greatest Price was paid? Where?

    Please kindly furnish the relevant Bible references for the above false teaching”….

    Question DR. GP, Where do you think that the Greatest Price was paid for the Sins of Mankind?

    Hopefully this would answer your misunderstanding of what Freedom has written with scripture references included…

    To be sure, it is with this understanding that we may, perhaps to some small degree, then begin to more clearly and acutely recognize what actually happened therein the time that Jesus last spent in the Garden of Gethsemane. We are told in the Gospels that He often went there to pray, but on this last occasion He sought the quiet and solitude to prepare Himself for the completion of His Mission. Perhaps this was the time in which He, as the innocent Lamb of God without blemish, took upon Himself all the sins of mankind in a manner in which we cannot completely fathom. But we may gather that because the portion of His Spirit has been and is intimately related to each individual life that ever was and will be on this earth, His Omniscience maintains an open and vital “connection” which intimately witnesses the activities of every soul and the subsequent fallen darkness within the family of man.

    For truly He has observed everything…. every thought, word and deed from the beginning to the end of our lives — including every sorrow that has befallen us, every skinned knee that we have suffered, every loss and injustice perpetrated against us; as well as every sin that we made, and every act of repentance we have made thereafter. He knew and knows us as well as He knows Himself. Cognizant of this, it is possible that in the very moment of such condensed awareness, the entirety of the realities of all mankind’s sins ever committed and ever would be committed may have descended upon and entered His Consciousness with an impact that caused even God to groan and wish to withdraw from the anguish, praying that the “bitter cup” could pass from Him. (See: Matthew 26:39-44; Mark 14-34-38; Luke 22:40-44;)

    Under the purview of His Heavenly Father, the possible sudden and single final onslaught of the sum of the burden of all mankind’s sins, in worlds without number, breaking in upon His consciousness of Spirit would likely have caused such an unpalatable torrent of antagonism within His Being, an overwhelming deluge of awareness filled with toxic shame, pain and sorrow, which because of His Abhorrence to sin of any kind consequently caused even the cells in His Mortal Body to begin to rupture, separating His Blood from the Water of His plasma. (See: Exodus 4:9; Exodus 7:19; Ezekiel 16:9; John 1:12-14; John 19:34; Luke 22:40-45; Hebrews 9: 11-14; Hebrews 9:21-26; Hebrews 10:19-20;)

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  • To u i asked what is so Good about This Friday

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  • Q what is so Good about This Friday

    A What Jesus do on the cross.

    Whereas the bible does not mention of Good Friday, the day on which Jesus was crucified was indeed a day whether it is called Good Friday or not

    Just look at all the good things he accomplished that day on the cross

    Jesus died on the cross for our sins so that we might be forgiven when we trust in what Christ has done there. When we by faith receive the sacrifice He offered, we can then have eternal life and escape the righteous judgment of God the Father. On the cross, Jesus voluntarily bore our sins. He allowed people to lie about Him and kill Him. He used the evil done to Him to bring good to others. He sacrificed Himself and demonstrated the greatest love of all. On the cross is where we are redeemed, and it is where our sin debt to God is canceled.
    Following is a list of Scriptures that tell us what Jesus did on the cross.

    He laid his life down for us, John 10:11, “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.”
    Demonstrated the greatest act of love, John 15:13, “Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends.”
    Reconciled to God, Rom. 5:10, “For if while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.”
    Justified us, Rom. 5:18, “So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men.”
    He died to sin, Rom. 6:10, “For the death that He died, He died to sin, once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.”
    Died for our sins, 1 Cor. 15:3, “For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures.”
    He became sin, 2 Cor. 5:21, “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”
    He finished the atonement, John 19:30, “When Jesus therefore had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And He bowed His head, and gave up His spirit.”
    Reconciled Jew and Gentile, Eph. 2:16, “and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the enmity.”
    Humbled himself, Phil. 2:8, “And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.”
    Reconciled all things, Col. 1:20, “and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.”
    Canceled out our sin debt, Col. 2:14, “having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us and which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.”
    Rendered the Devil Powerless, Heb. 2:14, “Since then the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil.”
    Brought in the New Covenant, Heb. 9:15-16, “And for this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, in order that since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. 16 For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it.”
    He redeemed us, 1 Pet. 1:18-19, “knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.”
    Bore our sin, 1 Pet. 2:24, “and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.”
    Died for sins, 1 Pet. 3:18, “For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, in order that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit.”
    Propitiated our sins, 1 John 2:2, “and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.”
    He fulfilled prophecy, Psalm 22:14-18, “I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint; My heart is like wax; It is melted within me. 15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue cleaves to my jaws. And you lay me in the dust of death. 16 For dogs have surrounded me. A band of evildoers has encompassed me; They pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me; 18 They divide my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots.”
    He fulfilled prophecy, Isaiah 53:4-7, “Surely our griefs He Himself bore, and our sorrows He carried. Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions. He was crushed for our iniquities. The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, and by His scourging we are healed. 6 All of us like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all to fall on Him. 7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted, yet He did not open His mouth. Like a lamb that is led to slaughter, and like a sheep that is silent before its shearers, So He did not open His mouth.”
    He fulfilled prophecy, Zech. 12:10, “And I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him, like the bitter weeping over a first-born.”

    THIS IS SOUND BIBLE DOCTRINE THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED

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  • It would be GOOD if some critics could simply ask questions without all the bile because they are obviously lacking in the understanding of some of the very basics.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    To all Christians

    I wish you a reflective day. A day in which you ask what have I learnt about the reported ministry of Jesus ,the Christ. There is so much one can learn about man and his behaviour. Moreover, you have a template by which you can navigate new and uncharted waters. Have faith; God is in Heaven and all is well on Earth. Avoid vexatious persons as they seek to usher in the work of their masters.

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  • Most of wunna here are so indoctrinated by your ancestor’s religion, a religion that was forced upon them by their owners, are willing to believe anything and everything that men wrote in a book 3000 years ago.

    I can see why dictators have so much power over men. They wield the sword of fear in the hearts of men so they can control them. This ideology is not only political but also religious. The fear of a wrathful and vengeful God has made men kill and maim to show their love and obedience to an invisible being whom many say they have heard and followed instructions given. The proclaim their love to this invisible being a love that they put above all others earthly beings.

    Religious people make things up as they go along saying that is how their God wants it, however bizarre it sounds. When something good happens they praise their God. When something terrible occurs they say that it is punishment and that God knows best. The black man was given a picture of a white man on a cross and have that image imprinted in their DNA that many cannot and will not shake it off, even though the said man on the cross was from an area where the people were not white skinned and blonde haired. If anyone of another race claim to this man who many believe will come back from the skies on a cloud , he would be run out of town or killed for posing as the dead God man.

    When the African, says that their Voodoo religion is powerful the Christians label it as evil. Isn’t it amazing how the Black Christians abhor the thought there could be another religion from their motherland is as powerful as theirs. The white religious Evangelicals are moving swiftly into Africa to convert the savage African to their religion. The African instead of extinguishing them they are welcomed with open arms. History repeating itself all over again. The black man must be tamed and civilized! He must obey the white God and thus keep him mentally enslaved to rob him of everything he owns; his dignity, his wealth and his mind.

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  • WHAT A LOAD BY YET ANOTHER BIBLE ILLITERATE AND CHILD OF BELIAL

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  • Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.

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  • The Purpose Of His Passion
    1 Peter 3:18
    I. INTRODUCTION
    A. The prophet Isaiah wrote about the crucifixion of Jesus 700 years before Jesus came to this earth as our substitute.
    B. Earth’s greatest tragedy and God’s greatest triumph was Calvary.
    C. Why did Jesus have to die? Why the cross? What was the purpose of His passion?

    II. THE SUBSTITUTIONARY PURPOSE OF THE CROSS (1 Peter 3:18)
    A. Jesus, the Just One, took the place of us, the unjust.
    i. Jesus Christ was not a martyr or a helpless victim. Jesus died as our substitute.
    ii. John 10:18
    B. God is just; He is perfectly, totally, and completely righteous and holy.
    C. We are the unjust; our condition is that we have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
    i. Romans 3:23
    D. Being just, God cannot simply overlook sin. But God is a God of infinite love. So God allowed His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, to take that sin upon Himself and go to the cross.
    i. Romans 6:23
    ii. Ezekiel 18:20
    iii. Revelation 13:8
    E. Hebrews 9:22 – Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins.
    F. The cross is pictured and prophesied of throughout the Bible.
    i. Genesis 3:21
    1. God clothed Adam and Eve with coats of animal skin, signifying the shedding of blood.
    ii. Genesis 4:1-5
    1. God accepts Abel’s sacrifice, which offered the shed blood.
    2. Genesis 7:20
    3. The first thing Noah did when he came out of the ark was to offer a blood sacrifice.
    iii. Genesis 22:1-13
    1. God provided a ram as a sacrifice in the place of Isaac.
    iv. Exodus 12:1-7
    1. The children of Israel were commanded to place the blood of the lamb on the doorposts, and the death angel would pass over that house.
    v. John 1:29
    1. John the Baptist recognized Jesus as the Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world.
    vi. Hebrews 10:1
    1. This passage tells us that all of these Old Testament sacrifices were a shadow of the cross.
    2. John 8:56
    G. Jesus is not our example; He is our Savior.
    H. Salvation does not come by learning lessons from the life of Christ, but by receiving life from the death of Christ.

    III. THE SUFFERING PASSION OF THE CROSS (1 Peter 3:18)
    A. The emotional suffering of Jesus
    i. Luke 22:40-41
    ii. Matthew 26:39
    1. What was in the cup that Jesus spoke of in this passage?
    a. The pollution of sin
    i. 2 Corinthians 5:21
    b. The punishment of sin
    i. Isaiah 53:10
    ii. Romans 8:32
    iii. Luke 22:44
    B. The physical suffering of Jesus
    i. John 19:1
    ii. The purpose of a scourging was to beat the individual so near to death that he could not walk away.
    iii. The word “excruciate” means “out of the cross”.

    IV. THE SETTLED PROVISION OF THE CROSS (1 Peter 3:18)
    1 Peter 3:18 says, “Christ also hath once suffered”.
    This means one time; it will never happen again
    Because the price has been paid in full.
    John 19:30 It is finished; it is paid in full.

    V. THE SAVING POWER OF THE CROSS (1 Peter 3:18)
    1 Peter 3:18 also says, “that He might bring us to God”.
    The Greek word for “bring” means to take someone and bring them to
    another person. It was often used when a person would bring another
    into the throne room.
    When we come into Heaven’s throne room, Jesus who will take us
    by the hand and bring us in; because Jesus has reconciled us to God.
    Colossians 1:20

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  • SCIENCE AND THE BIBLE FOR BU DUMMIES

    Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the “things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”
    Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.
    At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: “He…hangs the earth upon nothing” (Job 26:7).
    The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: “It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth” (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere. Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6 footnote).
    God told Job in 1500 B.C.: “Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?” (Job 38:35). The Bible here is making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until 1864 when “British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing” (Modern Century Illustrated Encyclopedia).
    Job 38:19 asks, “Where is the way where light dwells?” Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a “way,” traveling at 186,000 miles per second.
    Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: “When the morning stars sang together…”
    “Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth” (Time, Dec. 1976).
    Solomon described a “cycle” of air currents two thousand years before scientists “discovered” them. “The wind goes toward the south, and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the wind returns again according to his circuits” (Ecclesiastes 1:6).
    Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: “In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters.” The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.
    The great biological truth concerning the importance of blood in our body’s mechanism has been fully comprehended only in recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were “bled,” and many died because of the practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life. Yet Leviticus 17:11, written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood.”
    All things were made by Him (see John 1:3), including dinosaurs. Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job 40:15–24. In this passage, God speaks about a great creature called “behemoth.” Some commentators think this was a hippopotamus. However, the hippo’s tail isn’t like a large tree, but a small twig. Following are the characteristics of this huge animal: It was the largest of all the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares, but Scripture says, “He that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.” In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had made, to become extinct.
    Encyclopedia Britannica documents that in 1845, a young doctor in Vienna named Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was horrified at the terrible death rate of women who gave birth in hospitals. As many as 30 percent died after giving birth. Semmelweis noted that doctors would examine the bodies of patients who died, then, without washing their hands, go straight to the next ward and examine expectant mothers. This was their normal practice, because the presence of microscopic diseases was unknown. Semmelweis insisted that doctors wash their hands before examinations, and the death rate immediately dropped to 2 percent. Look at the specific instructions God gave His people for when they encounter disease: “And when he that has an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself even days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean” (Leviticus 15:13). Until recent years, doctors washed their hands in a bowl of water, leaving invisible germs on their hands. However, the Bible says specifically to wash hands under “running water.”
    Luke 17:34–36 says the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will occur while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth, with day and night at the same time.
    “During the devastating Black Death of the fourteenth century, patients who were sick or dead were kept in the same rooms as the rest of the family. People often wondered why the disease was affecting so many people at one time. They attributed these epidemics to ‘bad air’ or ‘evil spirits.’ However, careful attention to the medical commands of God as revealed in Leviticus would have saved untold millions of lives. Arturo Castiglione wrote about the overwhelming importance of this biblical medical law: ‘The laws against leprosyin Leviticus 13 may be regarded as the first model of sanitary legislation’ (A History of Medicine).” Grant R. Jeffery, The Signature of God With all these truths revealed in Scripture,how could a thinking person deny that the Bible is supernatural in origin? There is no other book in any of the world’s religions (Vedas, Bhagavad-Gita, Koran, Book of Mormon, etc.) that contains scientific truth. In fact, they contain statements that are clearly unscientific. Hank Hanegraaff said, “Faith in Christ is not some blind leap into a dark chasm, but a faith based on established evidence.” (11:3 continued)

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  • Mariposa April 18, 2019 11:11 PM

    Re “Who wrote the bible”

    The Bible is a Collection of Books written by Prophets that were Inspired of God…Those words have Power unto Salvation, they are His words bequeathed to men for their Enlightenment.

    All scripture is given by inspiration of God… (2 Tim. 3:16).

    Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. (2 Peter 1:20-21).

    Some of the Scriptures have been changed they were originally written in Latin and subsequent from the Latin by great Scholars would try to be true to the original intent in the Latin language. There is the Catholic Version, there is the King James Version and they are other versions. Some of the newer versions try to impose their understanding into the translation rather than use the original intent. If you use the Catholic or King James Version you cannot go wrong.

    Re…“However a reality that man wrote rewrite and revised the Word
    A higher than higher possibility that some words or comments attributed to Jesus could be tainted by man rush for selfgratification.”

    The Four Gospels written in the New Testament may have some differences but they do not Contradict one another and the Gospel according to Luke as recorded after Jesus’s death was done by Luke going around inquiring about the life of Jesus. Yet they are all remarkably similar.

    ARM YOURSELF WITH THE WORD…

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  • Mariposa April 18, 2019 11:11 PM Another question christains like to avoid

    Re “One example that comes to mind The last Supper words to the effect “do this in remembrance of me” words said by Jesus at his last meeting with the disciples. Yet we have a jesus who after using bread and wine as a symbol of rememberence of himself returns three days later.
    How could that be when tge symbol of his remeberance meant that Jesus would been leaving them for a long time”

    Genesis 14:18-20 (KJV)

    18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

    19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

    20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

    Here is a High Priest performing this ordinance in Genesis and Christ said it because that ordinance was done in Remembrance of him. Christ simply re-instituted it with his Apostles.

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  • MORE SCIENCE VS THE BIBLE FOR BU DUMMIES

    IS THE BIBLE AT ODDS WITH SCIENCE?
    The Bible tells us that miracles happen! The birth of Jesus to a virgin, and His resurrection from the grave are cardinal elements in the faith of Christians. The origin of life itself stems from the mind and act of God. Incredibly, some scientists teach that we evolved from single cells, which in turn developed over billions of years from electrical charges. In the face of the amazing complexity of living beings, they still find no evidence of intelligent design in the universe.

    Thus science is often pitted against the Bible, but everything depends on what we mean by science. Science is based on careful observation, on precise description of natural events and phenomena. Scientific conclusions are based solely on reasoning from factual evidence. Every Christian should have great respect for the scientific method and accept its validity. However, some well-meaning Christians take the position that science and the Bible are implacable enemies, and they go through life with a chip on their shoulders. This attitude contributes nothing to anyone’s understanding.

    Unfortunately, some scientists regard the Bible as an antiquated collection of myths and primitive nonsense. In their worldview there is no place for intelligent design. Once they have dismissed the Bible they look down on believers as people still trapped in their outdated faith systems. The two sides appear to be locked in endless conflict.

    Clearly science has made astonishing discoveries and exposed entrenched beliefs as false. Every Christian should support the quest of science as it seeks to uncover and understand the amazing mysteries of the universe. One’s sense of wonder at the complexity and enormity of the universe can only be deepened and enriched.

    At the same time, some scientists fall into the trap of calling theories facts when they are only theories. This actually violates the scientific method. Among these enormous and unproved assumptions are those concerning the origin of life and the denial of the supernatural. For such scientists, the conclusion is that we got here by chance and will end up in nothingness. This position is fundamentally unsupportable, and the Bible provides a wonderful and totally reasonable alternative. It is an alternative that involves faith in the timeless existence of the being the Bible calls God.

    There is a very sinister idea making the rounds these days, an idea even taught in the schools as the truth. That idea is that science is grounded only in facts and religion is grounded solely in faith in the Bible. Therefore, the theory goes, when it comes to the origin of life, evolution may be taught in the schools, but not creation. The truth is that both of these views are grounded in a huge leap of faith and both claim to be reasonable. The creationist indeed places her faith in intelligent design, and finds in this faith a reasonable explanation of life and its origin. However, the evolutionist also operates by faith: faith in the inexplicable and wholly random origin of something out of nothing! Make no mistake, this is a leap of faith, an astounding assumption not based on any observable facts. For Christians, faith in intelligent design as explanation for the origin of life is far more reasonable than faith in randomness and blind chance.

    When it comes to miracles, it is fair to conclude that they lie outside of science, but are not opposed to science. God can and does intervene in history, so scientists (and all of us) do well to be humble in the face of miracle. But Christians (and everybody else as well) also do well not to call something a miracle just because we don’t understand it. When both these positions are understood and accepted, science and the Bible are not at odds. They are both gifts from God.

    Let’s remember, too, that the Bible is not a scientific textbook. Although Christians accept the Bible as entirely true, it does not use scientific terminology. After all, it was written thousands of years ago! So it uses terms such as “sunrise” and “sunset”, even though we know that the sun does not rise or set. The Bible is a casebook of divine love and admonition, as well as the very human response of failure and triumph.
    So although the Bible is not a scientific treatise, it is our guidebook for life. It teaches us amazement in the face of life’s mysteries. On our sickbed when all the answers of science have been exhausted, we throw ourselves on the hope so wonderfully described in the Bible. We live here by faith and reach for life beyond the grave. In its pages we find the story of our origin and destiny. Has it become your guidebook, too?

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  • Works for me!

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  • RE Some of the Scriptures have been changed they were originally written in Latin and subsequent from the Latin by great Scholars would try to be true to the original intent in the Latin language.

    THIS IS NOT TRUE

    THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS WRITTEN IN HEBREW

    THE NEW TESTAMENT WAS WRITTEN IN KOINE GREEK

    THE LATIN VULGATE WAS A TRANSLATION INTO LATIN BY JEROME FROM THE GREEK VERSION CALLED THE SEPTUAGINT

    RE The Four Gospels written in the New Testament may have some differences but they do not Contradict one another

    GOOGLE WHY FOUR GOSPELS BY ARTHUR PINK IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY THERE ARE FOUR GOSPELS AND WHY THERE ARE APPARENT DIFFERENCES

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  • MORE SCIENCE VS THE BIBLE FOR BU BIBLE ILLITERATES AND DUMMIES

    The Bible’s answer
    Yes, for although the Bible is not a science textbook, it is accurate when it mentions matters of science. Consider some examples showing that science and the Bible agree and that the Bible contains scientific facts that differed greatly from the beliefs of many people living at the time it was written.
    • The universe had a beginning. (Genesis 1:1) In contrast, many ancient myths describe the universe, not as being created, but as being organized from existing chaos. The Babylonians believed that the gods that gave birth to the universe came from two oceans. Other legends say that the universe came from a giant egg.
    • The universe is governed day-to-day by rational natural laws, not by the whims of deities. (Job 38:33; Jeremiah 33:25) Myths from around the world teach that humans are helpless before the unpredictable and sometimes merciless acts of the gods.
    • The earth is suspended in empty space. (Job 26:7) Many ancient peoples believed that the world was a flat disk supported by a giant or an animal, such as a buffalo or a turtle.
    • Rivers and springs are fed by water that has evaporated from the oceans and other sources and then has fallen back to earth as rain, snow, or hail. (Job 36:27, 28; Ecclesiastes 1:7; Isaiah 55:10; Amos 9:6) The ancient Greeks thought that rivers were fed by underground ocean water, and this idea persisted into the 18th century.
    • The mountains rise and fall, and today’s mountains were once under the ocean. (Psalm 104:6, 8) In contrast, several myths say that the mountains were created in their current form by the gods.
    • Sanitary practices protect health. The Law given to the nation of Israel included regulations for washing after touching a dead body, quarantining those with infectious disease, and disposing of human waste safely. (Leviticus 11:28; 13:1-5; Deuteronomy 23:13) By contrast, one of the Egyptian remedies in use when these commands were given called for applying to an open wound a mixture that included human excrement.
    Are there scientific errors in the Bible?
    A reasonable examination of the Bible shows the answer to be no. Here are some common misconceptions about the scientific accuracy of the Bible:
    Myth: The Bible says that the universe was created in six 24-hour days.
    Fact: According to the Bible, God created the universe in the indefinite past. (Genesis 1:1) Also, the days of creation described in chapter 1 of Genesis were epochs whose length is not specified. In fact, the entire period during which earth and heaven were made is also called a “day.”—Genesis 2:4.
    Myth: The Bible says that vegetation was created before the sun existed to support photosynthesis.—Genesis 1:11, 16.
    Fact: The Bible shows that the sun, one of the stars that make up “the heavens,” was created before vegetation. (Genesis 1:1) Diffused light from the sun reached the earth’s surface during the first “day,” or epoch, of creation. As the atmosphere cleared, by the third “day” of creation, the light was strong enough to support photosynthesis. (Genesis 1:3-5, 12, 13) Only later did the sun become distinctly visible from the surface of the earth.—Genesis 1:16.
    Myth: The Bible says that the sun revolves around the earth.
    Fact: Ecclesiastes 1:5 says: “The sun rises, and the sun sets; then it hurries back to the place where it rises again.” However, this statement merely describes the apparent motion of the sun as viewed from the earth. Even today, a person can use the words “sunrise” and “sunset,” yet he knows that the earth revolves around the sun.
    Myth: The Bible says that the earth is flat.
    Fact: The Bible uses the phrase “the ends of the earth” to mean “the most distant part of the earth”; this does not imply that the earth is flat or that it has an edge. (Acts 1:8; footnote) Likewise, the expression “the four corners of the earth” is a figure of speech referring to the entire surface of the earth; today a person might use the four points of the compass as a similar metaphor.—Isaiah 11:12; Luke 13:29.
    Myth: The Bible says that the circumference of a circle is exactly three times its diameter, but the correct value is pi (π), or about 3.1416.
    Fact: The measurements of “the Sea of cast metal” given at 1 Kings 7:23 and 2 Chronicles 4:2 indicate that it had a diameter of 10 cubits and that “it took a measuring line 30 cubits long to encircle it.” These dimensions might have been merely the nearest round numbers. It is also possible that the circumference and diameter represented inner and outer measurements of the basin respectively.
    The Bible does not contain statements that are scientifically inaccurate. They do not make the same absurd mistakes that were made by others living in their day. But the Bible goes further in that it foresees scientific discoveries before they were known to the world at large.

    During the time the Bible was being composed there was much superstition and ignorance concerning the nature and function of the universe. Though no nation or sacred writings were immune to superstition, the Bible is a notable exception. We do not find the biblical writers committing the same types of errors as their contemporaries. Kenny Barfield writes:

    We might well wonder if there could be among all the so-called revelations of the worlds religions one document that is untouched by the foibles and fallacies of men, one record that reveals an accurate understanding of man and nature, one collection of writings that holds an immutable relationship to scientific truth? One book – and only one – can meet these qualifications. It is known as the Bible . . . .

    There is no evidence that any one group of people is inherently more or less intelligent than another. It should also be noted that various cultures have made important progress in the sciences. This progress is understandable on the basis of human genius, equally present in all peoples. Interestingly, within this equality of people is an amazing disparity in certain “sacred writings.” The disparity should not be there. But it is (Kenny Barfield, Why The Bible is Number 1, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1988, pp. 9,10).

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  • MORE INFO FOR BU BIBLE ILLITERATES ABOUT THE BIBLE AND SCIENCE

    Science Foreseen

    The biblical writers not only avoided scientific errors, they also were able to foresee scientific discoveries years ahead of their time. The following examples should demonstrate that the biblical writers were given information that their contemporaries did not have.

    Earth Not Supported

    The Scripture also says that the earth hangs in space:

    He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing (Job 26:7).

    This idea was an oddity in the ancient world, for most people believed the earth was supported by something.

    Stars Innumerable

    The Bible also speaks of innumerable stars:

    As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured (Jeremiah 33:22).

    Before the telescope was invented, people believed they could count the stars. Even the great astronomer Johann Kepler numbered the stars at slightly over one thousand. Not until modern times did man realize that numbering the stars is an impossibility.

    Circularity Of The Earth

    The Bible speaks of the circularity of the earth:

    It is He who sits above the circle of the earth (Isaiah 40:22).

    Early man usually viewed the earth as being flat.

    Dietary Regulations

    The Israelites were forbidden to eat the flesh of any animal that had died a natural death:

    You shall not eat anything that dies of itself (Deuteronomy 14:21).

    Today we know that dead animals can carry lice, flies, and fleas. Each of these are carriers of disease.

    Quarantine Of Contagious Diseases

    God ordered those who had contagious diseases to be separated from the rest of the camp:

    Now the leper on whom the sore is, his clothes shall be torn and his head bare; and he shall cover his mustache, and cry, Unclean! Unclean! He shall be unclean. All the days he has the sore he shall be unclean. He is unclean, and he shall dwell alone; his habitation shall be outside the camp (Leviticus 13:45,46).

    The Bible is the only book in the ancient world that ordered this practice.

    Water Supply

    The children of Israel were forbidden to drink water from small or stagnant pools or from water that had been contaminated by coming into contact with animals or meat (Leviticus 11:29-36). It is only in the last 100 years that medical science has learned that contaminated water can cause typhoid and cholera.

    Rabbits And Pork

    Today humans eat rabbits and pork, although both are susceptible to infectious parasites. The children of Israel were not allowed to eat either of these animals. Though they may be cleanly fed and well-cooked, they both can be a source of disease. Roasting pork over an open flame is not sufficient to kill the parasites that could have attached themselves to the animal. Parasites can also be transmitted by the mere handling of pork. Consequently, the children of Israel were not even allowed to touch the body of a dead swine.

    Hygienic Regulations

    The Bible contains hygienic regulations for the children of Israel. The Bible commands that sewage should be disposed of outside the camp of Israel:

    Also you shall have a place outside the camp, where you may go out; and you shall have an implement among your equipment, and when you sit down outside, you shall dig with it and turn and cover your refuse (Deuteronomy 23:12,13).

    This precaution would help eliminate diseases such as typhoid fever.

    Circumcision On The Eighth Day

    God also commanded his people to circumcise the male children on the eighth day:

    He who is eight days old among you shall be circumcised, every male child in your generations (Genesis 17:12).

    The full meaning of that command has only been recently understood. Doctor Russel J. Thomsen writes:

    One simple aspect of Gods command to Abraham helped prevent excessive bleeding with circumcision of the newborn. That was the instruction that the rite should be done on the eighth day of life. Modern medicine has come to understand the mechanisms at work in the clotting of blood. Of major importance in blood clotting is prothrombin, a compound made in the liver and the precursor of the active clotting agent thrombin. It has been well established that within a few hours after birth prothrombin becomes relatively depleted and does not become replenished by the infants liver until about the eighth day of life (Russel J. Thomsen, M.D., Medical Wisdom From the Bible, Old Tappan, New Jersey: Fleming H. Revell Company, 1974, p. 17).

    It has been only since 1940 that it has become a standard practice to circumcise all male infants.

    Pest Control

    The Bible also gave a prescription for the control of pests. Robert Boyd writes:

    A sure-fire remedy for the control of pests was given centuries ago, and yet we are plagued today with insects, oftimes with no remedy. Moses commanded Israel to set aside one year in seven when no crops were raised [Leviticus] 25:1-24 . God promised sufficient harvest in the sixth year to provide for this period. Following this plan, heres what would happen – insects winter in the stalks of the last years harvest, hatch in the spring, and are perpetuated by laying eggs in the new crop. Now, if one year in seven no crop were raised, there is nothing for the insects to subsist upon and the pests are controlled by this method. Mans method today is crop rotation, but were still pestered with insects. This method will never approach Gods method. “Then there was the year of Jubilee after every seven Sabbatical years, which would serve to eliminate the insects which had a cycle of seven years or more or less and which were not affected by the one year in seven” (Robert Boyd, Boyds Bible Handbook, Eugene, Oregon: Harvest House Publishers, 1983, p. 78).

    Many other examples could be added. With regard to science, the biblical writers were separate from their contemporaries in the ancient world in the following two ways: (1) they did not repeat the commonly held errors of their day (2) they spoke of things that only present-day science has come to realize is scientifically accurate.

    Be Careful Of Extremes

    While we believe that the Scriptures are scientifically accurate and that there are some examples of Scripture foreseeing modern science, there are some writers who have gone too far in their assertion that the Bible anticipates modern science. R.M. Page writes:
    Some writers, notably Rimmer, Sanden and Beirnes, have found Scriptural passages in which they see anticipations of modern scientific discovery. The undalatory theory of matter is seen in Genesis 1:2. Wireless telegraph is seen in Job 38:35. The concept of parallax is seen in James 1:17. Atomic theory of matter is seen in Hebrews 11:3 and atomic binding in Hebrews 1:3. Light as the basis of all substance is seen in Genesis 1:3, nuclear fission in Genesis 1:4, and a final chain reaction in Isaiah 34:4 and Luke 21:25-28. An expanding universe is seen in Isaiah 40:22. Motor cars are seen in Joel 2:3,4, airplanes in Isaiah 31:5 and 60:8, and submarines in Revelation 11:3-12 (R.M. Page, “Science in the Bible,” The Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible, Merrill C. Tenney, General editor, Volume 5, Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1977, p. 295).

    Summary And Conclusion

    The fact that the Bible foresees modern science is another evidence of its divine inspiration. How else can we explain the references to scientific matters that were done years ahead of their time? Furthermore, why didnt the biblical writers repeat the common unscientific errors of their day? The answer is simple. The writings of Scripture were inspired by the Creator Himself.

    As we examine the origin and development of the universe we will be discussing both modern science and the Bible. Though many times they will agree there are times they will not. The author of the Bible is the God of truth but scientists are not so infallible. Scientific truthcan never contradict biblical truth but scientific theoriesdo contradict the Bible in numerous ways. Why is this the case? If the Bible is Gods Word and contains accurate science why do we find scientific theories at odds with Scripture?

    Assumptions

    The problem is not with the evidence that science discovers, rather it boils down to ones assumptions. All of us have our own biases and assumptions concerning the world around us. If a person assumes the theory of mindless evolution is true, then he will interpret the facts a different way than one who believes in divine creation. While all scientists deal with the same facts, the difference lies in the interpretation of the facts. The difference in interpretation can usually be traced back to the difference in assumptions.

    Same Facts, Different Conclusions

    Two people who look at the same facts with different assumptions will come to different conclusions. We find an example of this in the New Testament when Jesus was speaking to the multitude. He said:

    Father, glorify Your name. Then a voice came from heaven saying, I have both glorified it and will glorify it again. Therefore the people who stood by and heard it said that it had thundered. Others said, An angel has spoken to Him (John 12:28,29).

    All the people had the same facts (hearing the voice of God the Father). Yet some would not believe what they clearly heard. They attributed it to thunder. Why? Because of their assumptions. They did not believe Jesus was the promised Messiah, therefore, they assumed God the Father would not approve of His ministry. When the Father spoke His approval of Jesus certain people chose not to believe it. The voice was not rejected because of the evidence; it was rejected because of their previous assumptions. This illustrates how people can have the same facts before them and come up with different interpretations of those facts based upon their assumptions.

    Scientific theories fit into the same category. The assumptions the scientist brings to the data he discovers will influence the way the data is interpreted. The difference lies not in the facts, but in the interpretation of the facts. This is the reason why we have some scientific theories that contradict the Bible.

    Wrong Interpretation

    A further cause of the conflict lies with believers and their interpretation of the Bible. Sometimes the conflict between science and the Bible lies with a mistaken interpretation of Scripture. Theologian Eric Sauer notes:

    We must not a priori equate Scripture with our exposition of it. The so-called contradictions between faith in the Bible and science are in fact not a conflict between the Bible and assured scientific knowledge, but between interpretations of the Bible and scientific theories; they offer a collision between popular traditions and philosophical speculations, which have been simply accepted from others without being tested (Eric Sauer, The King of the Earth, Palm Springs: Ronald N. Haynes Publishers, 1981, p. 202).

    Christians must be careful not to assign blame to a scientific theory that contradicts Scripture until they are assured that their interpretation is what the Bible actually says.

    No Contradiction

    We emphasize that there is no contradiction between what is written in the Bible and the evidence of science. The Bible says,

    Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1).

    Biblical faith is confirmed by the evidence we find in the world around us.

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  • Dr.GP… Thank you for the Reminder in relation the Ancient Translation of the Scriptures…
    Please Scroll up and see Freedom Crier April 19, 2019 9:22 AM Freedom Crier April 19, 2019 9:22 AM to your attention…

    PS a word of advice in delivering your Scriptural Text and Insights… it would be beneficial to have more Paragraph instead of everything glued together… it would encourage easier reading.

    Thanks again Freedom

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  • HERE IS A LIKKLE MEDICINE AND THE CROSS FROM MY LECTURE ON THE SEVEN LAST WORDS FROM THE CROSS LAST SUNDAY

    • The Gospel accounts suggests that Jesus remained silent for most of the time he hung on the cross.
    • I believe that one of the reasons Jesus may have remained relatively silent at his trials before Pilate, and for the hours he hung on the cross because of the fact that both of His jaws were dislocated as a result of the very severe beating which he suffered to his face, which Isaiah predicted by saying “his visage was marred more than any man.” (Isaiah 52:14.)
    • I believe that Jesus suffered bilateral dislocation of the temporomandibular joint (TMJ), in fulfillment of the prediction of Psalm 22:14 a.
    • “I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint. ”
    • Therefore what he said, when he spoke, on the cross, with BOTH JAWS DISLOCATED and in unimaginable pain are worthy of intense consideration, and should impact our lives, whenever we meditate on Jesus last words on the cross.
    • Permit me to explain what I mean.
    • The temporomandibular joint (TMJ), is the ball-and-socket joint, located just in front of the lower part of the ear, that allows the lower jaw to move.
    • When the mouth opens wide, as in eating or yawning, the ball (called the condyle) comes out of the socket (called the glenoid fossa ) and moves forward. It goes back into place when the mouth closes.
    • The TMJ becomes dislocated when the condyle moves, or is forced, too far forward, and gets stuck in front of a section of bone called the articular eminence, and can not move back into place.
    • When the temporomandibular joint becomes out of joint, it gets stuck, and locked in an open position and there is difficulty to open and close the mouth, and there is discomfort until the joint is returned to the proper position because the several surrounding muscles tend to go into spasm and hold the condyle in the dislocated position.
    • There is :
    • 1) pain in the face, jaw and ear
    • 2) Headaches, and pain and pressure behind the eyes
    • 3Tenderness of the jaw muscles
    • 4) Swelling of the face
    • A person thus afflicted does not want to speak very much.

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  • When I read the words of Jesus my soul just responds and I feel inspired. I was not brought up in an ultra religious family. I had some exposure but there was no indoctrination. When, as a skeptic, I decided to explore the Bible for myself Jesus’ words just made sense and I thought if everyone lived the way he prescribed ALL PROBLEMS WOULD BE SOLVED.

    I will not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Just as a scalpel can be used to kill or to save depending on the user, so it is with the Bible. So it is with most things.

    The Bible was misused by some unscrupulous people. Let’s get rid of them and keep the Bible! We should seek to educate ourselves on its words before we seek to dismiss them based on our ignorance.

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  • Georgie Porgie April 19, 2019 12:41 PM

    Thanks Doc for the Information…Quite Revealing Indeed…

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  • Again the basics questions which Christain avoid all having to do with the Ressurection cannot be found in the bible
    We lived at time when science can unfold million of years of DNA from all kinds of species and science has yet to revealed that a body laying in the grave can once again come to life in a state of originality before death
    In my mind the story of the resurection should be seen as a symbol of our spirtual life after our death
    A life which was design and created with a moral compass to do good in the same manner and ways as Jesus did when he was on earth
    The fact that theologians have to be confronted with questions about the resurrection speaks to an untruth which the church has kept hidden away from the minds of man
    When a simple answer as to how we conduct our physical life in this earth in a moral and Christ like manner would unlock and secure our spiritual life through out eternity
    Not in a hocus pocus manner but by our words actions and good deeds
    Words and actions which will be commerative giving much reward towards our spiritual life
    We live in the physical realm
    But after death our ascension to the spiritual realm begins after death …all accounted (for) by our deeds when we were on this earth

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  • • Donna April 19, 2019 12:52 PM

    RE…”When I read the words of Jesus my soul just responds and I feel inspired.”

    Faith teaches us when something is True or Not…Here we may know the truth of all things by exercising our Faith.

    Things that are True Inspire us and our Minds Expands as we receive Enlightenment and knowledge and we feel it within our Bosoms our Spirit Rejoices.

    When Something is Not True we will receive no such Enlightenment and Joy. That way we may know with a surety it is not good.

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  • When I read the words of Jesus my soul just responds and I feel inspired. I was not brought up in an ultra religious family. I had some exposure but there was no indoctrination. When, as a skeptic, I decided to explore the Bible for myself Jesus’ words just made sense and I thought if everyone lived the way he prescribed ALL PROBLEMS WOULD BE SOLVED.

    I will not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Just as a scalpel can be used to kill or to save depending on the user, so it is with the Bible. So it is with most things.

    The Bible was misused by some unscrupulous people. Let’s get rid of them from our lives and keep the Bible! We should seek to educate ourselves on its words before we seek to dismiss them based on our ignorance.

    “Seek and ye shall find.” But is also said that one must seek diligently.

    We Bajans have our own saying, “A little Bible is a dangerous ting!” The emphasis is on the little. One must seek to understand the whole.

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  • RE In my mind the story of the resurection should be seen as a symbol of our spirtual life after our death

    WHY WOULD ANY ONE RELY ON ANYTHING COMING FROM YOUR SILLY MIND FOR SUCH IMPORTANT ISSUES?

    A life which was design and created with a moral compass to do good in the same manner and ways as Jesus did when he was on earth

    ACTUALLY, THE BIBLE TEACHES IN Psalm 51:5-6
    Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

    The fact that theologians have to be confronted with questions about the resurrection speaks to an untruth which the church has kept hidden away from the minds of man

    THE CHURCH CANT KEEP ANY TRUTHS HIDDEN IF YOU FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF THE BELIEVERS AT BEREA AS STATED IN ACTS 17:11

    These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

    IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO LIKE THE BEREAN BELIEVERS—-BUT YOU ARE AN UNBELIEVER

    Re When a simple answer as to how we conduct our physical life in this earth in a moral and Christ like manner would unlock and secure our spiritual life through out eternity
    Not in a hocus pocus manner but by our words actions and good deeds
    Words and actions which will be commerative giving much reward towards our spiritual life
    We live in the physical realm

    THESE SILLY OPINIONS ARE ANTI BIBLICAL AND EXPLAINS YOUR EXTREME IGNORANCE

    RE But after death our ascension to the spiritual realm begins after death …all accounted (for) by our deeds when we were on this earth

    AGAIN THIS YOUR SILLY OPINION BIRTHED IN YOUR SILLY MIND. YOUR OPINION IS UNBIBLICAL
    THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT OUR DEEDS OR WORKS

    FIRST TITUS 3:5

    Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
    6Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
    7That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

    NEXT ROMANS 4:1-5 IS VERY VERY CLEAR ON THIS SCORE

    What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
    2For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
    3For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
    4Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
    5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

    GO HERE FOR 32 Bible Verses about Salvation Not By Works
    https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Salvation-Not-By-Works

    HERE ARE A FEW THAT SHOW UP YOUR ALARMING IDIOTIC IGNORANCE & ASSTIN ESQUE ARROGANCE

    IF YOU CAN REALLY READ AND COMPREHEND SIMPLE ENGLISH YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DESERN THAT OUR SALVATION IS NOT BY OUR WORKS OR EFFORTS OR GOOD DEEDS OR THE WORKS OF THE LAW

    IT IS BECAUSE OF THE GRACE OF GOD WHICH ISASSESSED BY BELIEVING IN AND HAVING FAITH IN CHRIST.. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR MORONIC MOUTHINGS OR UNBIBLICAL OPINIONS OR RANTS

    Ephesians 2:8-9
    For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

    Galatians 2:21
    “I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”

    Romans 8:3
    For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh,

    Romans 9:16
    So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy.

    Romans 11:6
    But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

    Galatians 5:4
    You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

    Acts 13:39
    and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses.

    Romans 3:20-30
    because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin. But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;

    Romans 4:1-7
    What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.”

    Romans 9:31-32
    but Israel, pursuing a law of righteousness, did not arrive at that law. Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone,

    Galatians 2:16
    nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.

    Galatians 3:10-12
    For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, “CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM.” Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, “THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH.” However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, “HE WHO PRACTICES THEM SHALL LIVE BY THEM.”

    Galatians 3:21
    For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law.

    Galatians 5:6
    For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.

    Philippians 3:3-9
    for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh, although I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more: circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee;

    2 Timothy 1:9
    who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity,

    Titus 3:4-5
    But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

    Hebrews 4:3-10
    For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said, “AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH, THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST,”

    James 2:10-11
    For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. For He who said, “DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY,” also said, “DO NOT COMMIT MURDER.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

    Romans 3:20
    because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

    Matthew 5:20
    “For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

    Isaiah 64:6
    For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

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  • One must ask or maybe there is no need to – how much of the Bible have some people actually read far less studied!

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  • NOTE WHAT PAUL SAYS OF THE THESSALONIAN BELIEVERS IN 1 THESSALONIANS 2:13

    For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

    WHEN THEY HEARD THE WORD OF GOD THEY RECIEVED IT as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

    THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THE WORD CAN WORK IN A SOUL

    YET WE READ IN ACTS 17:11 THAT THE BELIEVERS AT BEREA were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

    THE BEREANS DID NOT ONLY RECIEVE THE WORD THEY SEARCHED IT DAILY TO ASCERTAIN IF WHAT THEY HEARD ACCORDED WITH WHAT THEY READ IN THE SCRIPTURES

    BU BIBLE ILLITERATES WHO BRIMBLE AND BRAY ABOUT MATTERS OF WHICH THEY KNOW NOTHING SHOULD EMULATE THE BEREANS

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  • The Bible should be in the trash heap! Man will never be free until he discards that evil book! look at the trash you Christians are spewing. Delusional and crazy people!

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  • Mariposa April 19, 2019 1:11 PM
    RE…”Again the basics questions which Christain avoid all having to do with the Ressurection cannot be found in the bible”…

    Taken from the series “Understanding part; 2 Faith & Hope” Soon to be Published…

    For the scientific minds among us who debunk the scriptures and make light of it, here is one for you in the first verse of the Old Testament. “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” (Genesis 1:1) Did not Moses tell you in a few words: “In the beginning”, here God introduces the concept of Time that is: the beginning. Then he said “God created the heaven” here God introduces the concept of Space as in the heaven, and right after he said “and the earth” introducing the concept of Matter giving us the dimensions we live in: Time, Space and Matter and that is only the first line of the scriptures! What else is there to learn?

    Here below is another scripture that shows that God is greater than the dimensions we live in we can only image what we see, not what we cannot conceive of. Who do you think created the science you value so. Could you have imagined in the 70s that there would be an internet or talk on a computer with Skype. There is more to learn but we only truly learn/discover or is it rediscover what God has already created.

    4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: (Isaiah 34:4)

    People study the scriptures all the time because hidden in plain sight is the answers but we fail to see, we been unwashed. I am happy you are asking questions, we only receive an answer when we asks questions, we show that we are ready to understand when we ask a question. Keep asking to learn and you will receive. The Creator once said in explanation:

    Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. (Matthew 7)

    The spiritual life is true that you alluded to, the physical life leads us to see the spiritual and since it is in God’s creation we can learn from it, it was created for our benefit.

    One word of caution we do not earn a good spiritual life if we are “good” for we all sin that is where repentance comes in and because of the atonement we know who paid for our sins, if you look back in our life carefully we will see the many sins/bad behaviour/improper action/mistakes it will take us millennia’s to pay for all the wrongs we have done but by baptism and following Christ he paid the price for us and our progress will be sure.

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  • David chose the ‘right’ picture. It is one which tells us all we need to know about this fiction of a jesus, on this ‘bad’ Friday, in some places. A picture, painting, of the cousin of Leonardo de Vinci, no doubt. But somehow we see ‘holiness’.

    It represents an insult to the revered ancestors of all Afrikan peoples, and we shall continue to pay a price for this worshiping of the progenitors of others, so symbolized.

    It is certainly not a Black Friday – just another one of the weapons within the quiver of the dominant acili.

    Have misguided Black people discussing White people’s foolishness. A ‘story’ about the fictitious death of a man who cannot be independently shown to have ever lived in the first place.

    White people like John, the Johnny, laughing at we!

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  • ‘Inta’ wunna poooookey!

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  • SOMETHING WELL WORTH CONSIDERING

    ONE GOD AND FATHER OF US ALL…REMEMBER THE LORDS PRAYER “OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN”…

    ONE RACE THE HUMAN RACE…WHEN WE BLEED WE ALL BLEED RED.

    https://kristiann1.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/idt.jpg?w=805&h=424

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  • Unable to contribute
    YAWN
    Cured my insomnia.
    Thanks guys

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  • For those who want to explain that God created the earth then it goes back to the age old question of asking who created. God

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  • • Mariposa April 19, 2019 3:30 PM

    RE “For those who want to explain that God created the earth then it goes back to the age old question of asking who created God”

    When I was a child my mother did not feed me steak even if she could cut it in small pieces, even if I was real hungry she fed me soft foods. As I got older I ate more of other things and later I ate steak when I was able. The scriptures say feed milk to babes or they will choke.

    Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. (James 4:3) Most of us have not yet learnt to be righteous enough. We are trying but still have not reached the point where we will receive everything we ask for, we will misuse it. We may receive some things but we will not receive all things as we have not made ourselves ready.

    But to answer your question directly God always was.

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  • The original people of the universe are not a race.

    That concept too, is eurocentric,

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  • Another tactic to coerece one minds into believing what they cannot see or understand.
    The truth the bible speaks of one God in a objective manner for all to understand
    Simply by stating Gods character which are also a part of mans design which are comparable to universal thought
    The bible simply states God is love then which answer the good ole question who.is God wherby God become a a figure head as symbolic in the flesh having moral characteristics that fully applies to mankind design and well being

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    ah guess too many centuries of fraud and lies…lol, murdahhh!!!

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  • Mariposa

    Why does someone or something have to creat God? Why can we just concluded that God originated from an uncaused cause?

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  • Mariposa

    The absence of evidence does not absence the evidence of proof … So the fact of the matter is human knowledge secularly speaking has reached an explanation threshold with respect to the explanation of the origin of God and the Earth…

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  • @Mariposa
    One of your comments approximated that of a great French philosopher… “If God did not exist, man would have invented him”

    Philosopher in the making?

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  • Tommorow is Easter Sunday .A day that the church teaches that Jesus arose from the grave
    Jesus while on this earth and walking and teaching his disciples spoke of truth .He also told his disciples that after his death they would be those who would make mention of seeing him
    He told the disciples not to belive them
    The church teaches that Thomas was the one disciple who was hesitant and reluctant to belive that Jesus had arose from the grave
    Was Thomas a non beliver or was he adhering/obedient to Jesus warnings

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  • Lexicon God does not need a mankind explanation
    The bible defines God as a deity with moral characteristics
    There are also passages in the Bible where God is acknowledge as HIM
    In all possibility the HIM reinforces the Father Son and Holy Ghost relationship all which would apply to the male gender
    Also Jesus in one of his comments made mention that to see the Father then also u have seen ME ( In reference to himself)

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  • Freedom

    If you understood what the word Good means from a spiritual context you would not make the asinine comment referencing being Good does not make a spiritual life
    The bible theologians in my mind ha used masquerading tactics to fool believers( in )absence of the truth
    The bible defines God as Good yet the church rebukes those who wants to live a Good life as not doing enough spiritually
    The church cannot define what is spiritual enough if the bible states that God is Good
    Therfore if all mankind prefers to walk in a Goodly manner that in itself is a reflection of God and a step towards closer to God

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    To the one who does not understand the significance of Gethsemane

    The Garden was for Jesus the Christ.

    Triune God praying to his Father to resolve the Mystery of Death on the Cross and being Away from God.

    I WILL NOT EXPLAIN THAT MORE BECAUSE IT IS A MYSTERY THAT I CANNOT EXPLAIN.

    Take this cup away from me, not my will BUT THY WILL BE DONE…

    Calvary was for mankind.

    This is where the price was paid fof mankind not GETHSEMANE

    You Sand Devil cannot understand that BECAUSE YOU ARE A BIBLE ILLITERATE…

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  • @ Mariposa April 20, 2019 11:00 PM
    Please see the whole context in which the following was given…

    Freedom Crier April 19, 2019 2:25 PM
    “One word of caution we do not earn a good spiritual life if we are “good” for we all sin that is where REPENTANCE comes in and because of the atonement we know who paid for our sins,”…

    48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

    Our Father in Heaven gives commandments that He that we can achieve…Although we Try our best to be good we still sin and fall short and that is why the Gospel is unto Repentance. When we do good he does indeed bless us and we are still indebted.
    Matthew 5:48 (KJV)

    We all Sin, we have all committed sins in our lives, as we get older and we think we have changed for the better and even if we don’t do the foolishness that we once did, we are still guilty of the foolishness and we will pay the price for that because the foolishness we did negatively impacted others.

    1 John 1:9
    9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

    The process of Self-regeneration and choosing the Better Way is the wonderful method that God has given as his plan of happiness. Repentance has been the word that Prophets from old to new has spoken about. It is putting away the old self to become a better self, one that wants to do better.

    Even if we should serve him with all your whole souls yet we would be unprofitable servants.

    Really, all that he requires of us is to keep his commandments; and he has promised that if we would keep his commandments we should prosper; and he never varies from that which he has said; therefore, if we keep his commandments he does bless and prosper us.

    In the first place, he created us, and granted unto us our lives, for which we are indebted unto him. And secondly, he does require that we should do as he has commanded us; for which if we do, he does immediately bless us; and therefore he has paid you. And we are still indebted unto him, and are, and will be, forever and ever; therefore, of what have we to boast?

    Now I ask, can we say anything great of yourselves? I answer you, Nay. We cannot say that we are even as much as the dust of the earth; yet we were created of the dust of the earth; but behold, it belong to him who created you.

    Therefore if that man repents not, and remains and dies an enemy to God, the demands of divine justice do awaken his immortal soul to a lively sense of his own guilt, which does cause him to shrink from the presence of the Lord, and does fill his breast with guilt, and pain, and anguish, which is like an unquenchable fire, whose flame ascends up forever and ever.

    I say unto you, that mercy hath no claim on that man; therefore his final doom is to endure a never-ending torment.

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