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Dear Editor,
The Sandals Barbados fiasco: Throwing out the baby with the bathwater, otherwise known in the Caribbean as snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
My name is James Bristol. I am a lawyer from Grenada and I negotiated the incentive agreements with the government of Barbados on behalf of Sandals.
I have read the recent statements both from the Prime Minister and Sandals and would like to clarify certain matters.
May I state from the outset that I have no political axe to grind and no political affiliations in Barbados.
I met the former Minister of Finance for the first time during the negotiations of the incentives and have not met him since.
I know the Prime Minister both as a colleague and as a friend.
The Sandals Barbados incentives are based on those which I negotiated for Sandals in respect of the Sandals Grenada hotel. The Barbados incentives are more generous than those in respect of Grenada.
The present Prime Minister of Grenada publicly expressed his initial concern over the generous incentives granted to Sandals in Grenada by the previous administration.
However, on attaining office and seeing the financial benefits of the Sandals investment in Grenada, the Prime Minister, not only endorsed the incentives granted, but added to them by including a tax stabilization clause to ensure that the incentives, and therefore the financial viability of the investment by Sandals, was not threatened or whittled away by future legislation.
The Sandals Grenada incentives took effect during a period of financial austerity under the IMF. The IMF program was successfully completed notwithstanding the Sandals incentives which incentives were fully implemented and respected by the Government at all times.
A large part of Grenada’s economic recovery has been attributed to Sandals and I am aware that the Grenada Government is doing all that is within its power to facilitate a Beaches Resort here.
Grenada’s enhancement extends to one of the most sophisticated call centres in the region with over 100 employees and increasing. All from Sandals!
As it is well known, Grenada‘s performance has been applauded by the IMF and Grenada is recording one of the highest rates of growth in the Caribbean.
Indeed, the Sandals incentive model has been adopted by the Government of Grenada for other hotel investments.
If Grenada can survive an IMF program while these incentives are in place and come out with flying colours despite the incentives, why is Barbados finding it difficult to honour an agreement reached in good faith between itself and Sandals?
The Barbados agreement was given effect by Statutory Instruments laid before Parliament under the applicable legislation. I drafted those statutory instruments in conjunction with the government’s legal department.
Far from insisting on additional incentives, Sandals is simply seeking to have certain incentives, not within the Statutory Instruments but within the Incentives Agreement, embodied in some form which would give a level of comfort to its bankers and itself to the extent that the financial basis for the investment remains stable so as to guarantee the ability to repay the loans in respect of the proposed Beaches project.
The Barbados incentives agreement contains a clause which mandates the Government to pass all laws and take all steps which are necessary to give effect to the agreement.
So, the Government is mandated to find avenues to give effect to its obligations under the agreement.
Much has been said over the years about Barbados giving Sandals too much by way of these incentives. Indeed, the same has been said in Grenada and Antigua.
The truth is that none of these countries has given away anything because without the incentives Sandals would not have invested. If Sandals did not come the Government would not have a development nor the benefit of the taxes. Therefore, if Sandals does come and pays reduced taxes, the Government has lost nothing. On the other hand, by Sandals coming, the Government has gained everything by way of the investment and its associated benefits. Sandals is the entity taking the risk by investing its money and being unable to dig up its hotels and take them away if things turn sour.
The way I see the incentives agreement is akin to an invitation to a friend to come to one’s home. The invitation allows them through the door and once inside the benefits of that friendship accrue.
The initial investment which Sandals proposed was the construction of two hotels: Beaches and Sandals.
But an added benefit arose as the Sandals Casuarina hotel has morphed into two hotels, Sandals Barbados and Royal Barbados, at about the same level of investment which was envisaged for the two original hotels, the total invested thus far being over US$300 million.
With the Beaches project the total investment is about US$750 million. Barbados now stands to benefit from 3 hotels as opposed to 2.
The corresponding employment and other benefits have been well documented by others with greater knowledge than me in this regard.
No one can argue that Sandals has delivered over and above what it agreed to do. Has the Government fully delivered on what it contracted to do?
The simple question I would pose to the Government and people of Barbados is this: would it benefit your country if there were no Sandals hotels? Think of the benefits of Sandals building the five star Beaches as opposed to the negative impact on your country and economy if the project is cancelled?
The answers are obvious: any investment of the type made by Sandals is a benefit.
Do not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Mia please call Keith. Keith, please explain to Mia.
James Bristol
Henry, Henry & Bristol
P. O. Box 386
4 & 6 Lucas Street
St. George’s
Grenada
@Enuff
How do we as a people let this man insult us daily? I know people with UWI law degrees who are doing very well in the UK.(Quote)
A law degree (medicine, pharmacy, nursing, etc) only qualifies one to practice in the jurisdiction for which one is qualified. If a UK qualified lawyer wants to practice in Barbados, in general they will have to go to Mona or Wooding. The inverse is also true. Remember the pre-election discussions on BU about LECs?
Bro u can talk to the cows come home u not changing my mind
I back winners .you could stand behind that tin horn dictator all u like ( he) having nothing to offer his people but loud mouth political rheteroic
If he is so certain that Sandals is committing by way of theft in taxes due to the country
On behalf of the people he can take the Corporation to court
All he does is hoot and holler and as of now he hasnt got the guts to fight Sandals with legal ammunition
What a tin horn loser
RE A law degree (medicine, pharmacy, nursing, etc) only qualifies one to practice in the jurisdiction for which one is qualified. THIS IS BULLSHIT AND UNTRUE, AND IS THE TYPE OF WAFFLE CHARACTERISTIC OF ONEWHO BRAIN HAS ALL THREE TYPES OF MUSCLE FIBRES
MANY UWI GRADUATES IN MEDICINE HAVE BEEN PRACTICING IN CANADA AND THE USA FOR YEARS IN THEIR NUMBERS
MANY BCC GRADUATES IN PHARMACY AND NURSING ARE ALSO WORKING IN THE USA FOR MANY YEARS NOW
HAL AUSTIN LIKES TO EFFLUX FROM HIS SHELVES OF HOUSTON ABOUT THINGS HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT
ONCE HE ARGUED WITH ME THAT NO RESEARCH WAS DONE AT UWI MONA ON SICKLE CELL DISEASE
http://barbadosunderground.net/2013/04/04/notes-from-a-native-son-is-greed-now-part-of-the-hippocratic-oath/comment-page-1/#comment-231644
@ Bajan in NY
Hal is highly respected in his hometown. . There are people on BU who take personal jabs at people they don’t know.
Don’t join them my brother. Peace.
@ George Porgie,
I do not like calling people liars, but in this instance you are. I have never written about sickle research on BU – or anywhere else. Re-post it if it s true.
I usually ignore you as your buffoonery is clear for all to see, but I know nothing about research at Mona. About your other stupid claims, a UWI qualified medical doctor must meet General Medical Council standards to be allowed to practice in the UK (I know at least three Barbadians who qualified in the Caribbean and work in the NHS).
Overseas qualified nurses (with the exception of the EU, until Britain leaves) have to meet Nursing and Midwifery Council standards to work in the UK; others have to meet the various professional requirements.
May be the nastiness in you is the Dominican coming out.
RE A law degree (medicine, pharmacy, nursing, etc) only qualifies one to practice in the jurisdiction for which one is qualified. THIS IS BULLSHIT AND UNTRUE, AND IS THE TYPE OF WAFFLE CHARACTERISTIC OF ONE WHO BRAIN HAS ALL THREE TYPES OF MUSCLE FIBRES
IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT DRS WHO GRADUATED IN THE UK ARE PRACTICING MEDICINE ALL OVER THE BRITISH COMMONWEALTH AND BEYOND.
MANY DRS WHO GRADUATED FROM MEDICAL SCHOOLS IN THE BRITISH COMMONWEALTH ARE PRACTICING IN THE UK AND ALL OVER THE BRITISH COMMONWEALTH AND BEYOND.
IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT HAL AUSTIN FROM THE IVY CAN LIE LIKE A HORSE CAN TROT AND THAT HAVING SPENT MANY YEARS IN THE ONCE GREAT BRITAIN -BUT GREAT NO MORE- HIS NERVE CELLS HAVE UNDERGONE DYSPLASIA AND BECOME MUSCLE FIBRES
SOON HIS “BRAIN” WILL BE DISPLAYED IN SOME MEDICAL SCHOOL’S HISTO PATHOLOGY MUSEUM AS SMOTH STRIATED AND CARDIAC MUSCLE — BUT MAINLY SMOOTH MUSCLE WITH A HISTOLOGICAL PATTERN CHARACTERISTIC OF THE SHELVES OF HOUSTON IN HIS RECTAL AREA
SEEING THAT CELLS ARE DEVELOPED FOR SPECIFIC FUNCTIONS WE CAN NOW UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF WHAT HE PRESENTS PERPETUALLY AND PERENNIALLY
@ Georgie Porgie,
You drunken, silly idiot, the NHS is made up of staff from all over the world, even if the standards are too high for a half-born Dominican scumbag like yourself. But to practice, as I have pointed out, they must been the various standards set by the regulatory bodies or take the UK exams. You must stop abusing alcohol.
RE I do not like calling people liars, but in this instance you are. I have never written about sickle research on BU – or anywhere else. Re-post it if it s true.
THIS IS ONE OF YOUR PROBLEMS DUMMY
YOUR BRAIN IS POOR AND SO IS YOUR MEMORY
MINE, HOWEVER, IS STILL AS SHARP AS A TACK, MORON
RE I usually ignore you as your buffoonery is clear for all to see, but I know nothing about research at Mona.
THAT WAS VERY CLEAR TO ME WHEN YOU WERE TRYING TO CONVINCE ME OF WHAT I KNEW TO BE TRUE SINCE I PERSONALLY KNEW DRS WHO WERE INVOLVED THEREIN
RE About your other stupid claims, a UWI qualified medical doctor must meet General Medical Council standards to be allowed to practice in the UK (I know at least three Barbadians who qualified in the Caribbean and work in the NHS).
SINCE ALL MEDICAL SCHOOLS IN THE BRITISH COMMONWEALTH WERE ACCREDITED BY THE GENERAL MEDICAL COUNCIL GRADUATES OF MEDICAL SCHOOLS IN THE BRITISH COMMONWEALTH WERE AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFIED TO PRACTICE IN THE UK. THIS WAS SO UP UNTIL 2003
UWI qualified medical doctor GO TO CANADA AND THE USA. THEY ARE AFRAID TO GO TO THE ONCE BUT NO LONGER GREAT BRITAIN AND BECOME MAD
RE Overseas qualified nurses (with the exception of the EU, until Britain leaves) have to meet Nursing and Midwifery Council standards to work in the UK; others have to meet the various professional requirements.
WHO CARES? NURSES FROM ALL OVER THE BRITISH COMMONWEALTH ARE COMING TO THE USA TO WORK WHERE THEY GET PAID VERY WELL
. MET A NUMBER OF THEM FROM NIGERIA UP TO SUNDAY AT CHURCH.
WHO WANTS TO COME TO THE ONCE BUT NO LONGER GREAT BRITAIN ANYMORE?
ONLY THE MUSLIMS WHO ARE TAKING OVER THE UK.
RE May be the nastiness in you is the Dominican coming out.
I AM AS MUCH BAJAN AS YOU. I JUST DIDNT SPEND LOTS OF TIME IN THE UK TO SEND ME CRAZY OR WARP MY BRAIN
RE You drunken, silly idiot,
You must stop abusing alcohol.
I HAVE NOT TAKEN ALCOHOL IN MY LIFE SIR.
I DO NOT USE ETHANOL FOR GASTRIC LAVAGE
I ONLY USE IT FOR DERMATOLOGICAL APPLICATIONS L
RE if the standards are too high for a half-born Dominican scumbag like yourself.
THE DOMINICAN PART OF MY HERITAGE WERE PART OF THEIR PLANTOCRACY THEY OWN LOTS OF LAND AND OWN SCHOONERS BACK IN THIER HEYDAY BY WHICH THEY TRADED IN BARBADOS
THEY AND I DID NOT LIVE HAND TO MOUTH AS YOU DID WHEN YOU WERE GROWING UP THUS IN THE BACK IVY
But to practice, as I have pointed out, they must been the various standards set by the regulatory bodies or take the UK exams.
WHO CARES ABOUT the regulatory bodies IN THE ONCE BUT NO LONGER GREAT BRITAIN
SMART FOLK GO TO CANADA AND THE USA THESE DAYS
MANY WHO WERE TRAINED IN THE ONCE BUT NO LONGER GREAT BRITAIN, CAME TO THE USA AND HAD TO RETRAIN AND MEET US STANDARDS
@ George Porgie,
You Patwa-speaking idiot, we were talking about meeting standards to practice, but your alcohol-induced brain now got you shifting the argument. First you claim, knowing it to be a lie, that we had some discussion about sickle cell. Now you move on to something else suggesting regulatory bodies are not important..
We have never, and I have never had a discussion abut sickle cell research at Mona on BU or anywhere else. It is not the first time I have caught you lying, although I have ignored – but not forgotten – them.
Just for the record, even f your buffoonery would not allow it to sink in, the UK has the fifth strongest economy in the world still. Remind me of where the Canadian economy stands in the pecking order..
I am a Caribbeanist, but this is the thanks Barbadians get for allowing your children of Dominican domestics to benefit from living in Barbados without making any contribution. You vile man.
I take it Mariposa has missed making a total idiot of herself on BU and is now catching up…steupppsss..
ARE YOU DONE NOW MR MUSCLE BRAIN AUSTIN WHO BULLSHITS ABOUT THINGS ABOUT WHICH YOU KNOW NOTHING
WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE ME A TOUR OF YOUR ROOTS IN THE IVY?
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GIVE YOU A TOUR OF MY MOTHER’S FAMILY ESTATES IN THE NORTH OF DOMINICA?
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GIVE YOU A TOUR OF MY UPBRINGING IN BARBADOS, SIR?
THANK GOD I DID COME UP HAND TO MOUTH, GOING SCHOOL BARE FEET OR SLEEPING ON KHUS KHUS GRASS ETC
IN YOUR RANTING YOU SEEK TO PRESENT THAT DOMINICA IS LESS A PLACE THAN THE IVY?
DID YOUR PARENTS PLANT AND REAP AND EXPORT TONS OF FRUIT AND OTHER FOOD TO BARBADOS AND OTHER CONTIGUOUS ISLANDS INCLUDING MARTINIQUE AND ANTIGUA VIA THEIR FAMILY SCHOONERS?
WHAT HAVE YOU ACHIEVED IN YOUR LENGTHY SOJOURN IN THE ONCE, BUT NO LONGER GREAT BRITAIN, WHERE YOUR BRAIN UNDERWENT DYSPLASTIC CHANGE TO MUSCLE?
Mari/Art
I once watched a Star Trek movie with two men who were doomed to travel through eternity fighting each other,
Would be funny if they were a married couple with computers in different rooms
“…….. loud mouth political rheteroic (rhetoric)??”
Ammmm……..sorry…….but we’re NOT discussing you.
“I back winners.”
I know de type uh winner you duz back……… case in point, Freundel Stuart and the other 29 incompetents.
However, my friend, you are sooooo predictable……. you don’t know when to “quit when you’re ahead.” You will continue and continue, until you trap yourself into revealing you’re an idiot.
“Watch muh.”
I must remind you the issue concerning Sandals collecting and with-holding ABST was RESOLVED since December 5, 2016.
“Browne pointed out that his government DID NOT PURSUE Sandals for back taxes but, in the interest of peace and unity and to ENSURE a GOOD INVESTMENT CULTURE in the country, WROTE OFF the$101 million in UNPAID taxes.”
(And here you are, complaining about Mottley writing off taxes deemed to be uncollectable).
ALSO, according to the “Deed of Release and Settlement of Claim #6,” which states as follows:
“Without acknowledging or agreeing the said claim, Sandals has AGREED with the Government to SETTLE the said ISSUE AND THEIR DIFFERENCES whereby Sandals will pay ABST at the FULL STATUTORY RATE as from 1st January, 2017 thus WAIVING any RIGHTS to a DISCOUNTED RATE of ABST under the said Certificate as from that date and by the execution of the release on the conditions hereinafter expressed.”
Now, yuh see that “Sandals AGREED to SETTLE the ISSUE and DIFFERENCES” wid de guv’munt…….
…………and wuh you suh ’bout “All he (Browne) does is hoot and holler and as of now he hasn’t got the guts to fight Sandals with legal ammunition” is nuff, nuff shiite talk?
Therefore, you are essentially REHASING an OLD ISSUE, and presenting it to this forum as though it is an ON-GOING SITUATION……….
………… which is not only a DISHONEST act, but it serves as an attempt to MISLEAD the readers as well.
But, with your track record and lack of credibility, I honestly believe you don’t know any better. You piece together bits of information and make up things as you “go along.”
Looks like the “tin horn dictator” is the actual winner.
.
THANKS DAVID FOR EXPOSING MUSCLE BRAIN AS THE LIAR THAT HE IS
RE I am a Caribbeanist, but this is the thanks Barbadians get for allowing your children of Dominican domestics to benefit from living in Barbados without making any contribution. You vile man.
HAL MY MOTHER DID NOT COME TO BARBADOS AS A DOMESTIC AND HAS NEVER WORKED A DAY AS A DOMESTIC OR AT ANY JOB ANYWHERE IN BARBADOS AT ANY TIME
MY MOTHER HAD A SHOP AND FED MANY PEOPLE IN THE VILLAGE, AND BEYOND
SHE RAISED THREE SONS AND TWO NEPHEWS, ALL OF WHOM ARE BAJANS AND ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE A VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION TO BARBADOS, WHILE YOU WERE HAVING YOUR MINISCULE BRAIN FROZEN IN THE UK, SUCH THAT IT HAS UNDERGONE DYSPLASTIC CHANGE TO MUSCLE TISSUE
NONE OF US LEARNED TO SPEAK FRENCH PATOIS, UNFORTUNATELY. WE DID NOT NEED TO, WE LIVED IN BARBADOS
RE Just for the record, the UK has the fifth strongest economy in the world still. Remind me of where the Canadian economy stands in the pecking order..
IT DOES NOT MATTER where the Canadian economy stands in the pecking order..
OUR TRAINED PROFESSIONALS ARE WORKING IN THE USA AND CANADA, BUT NOT IN THE ONCE GREAT BRITAIN. THEY DONT WANT TO GO MAD LIKE YOU HAVE BECOME.
YOUR DYSPLASTIC BRAIN IS NOW SO POOR THAT YOU CANT REMEMBER WHAT YOU WROTE HERE ON BU 6 YEARS AGO
YOU FORGET THAT I AM A SCHOLAR–SECOND CLASS NOT FIRST.. LOL MURDAH
In Canada all foreign Doctors, Dentists, Nurses and Pharmacists have to take the provincial exams in order to practice. In fact, I think you cant move from some provinces to another to work without getting approval. I know of a Guyanese Doctor who went to UWI who could not pass the exams. She had to go work as a medical assistant to a Dr. for two years, while going to school before she passed said exams. I know a Bajan nurse, a good friend who studied in England and had a hard time passing the Ontario exams, while others from England sailed through.
@Artax
I watched Gaston Browne’s presentation in Parliament at the introduction of the Bill and his reasons for it. I was captivated. The man is eloquent, rational, with an analytical mind and damn smart. I did not leave my computer to even go to the bathroom as I did not want to miss anything. Stellar.
@ Georgie Porgie,
There are areas of medicine and health that we should be actively involved in, if not leading the world: sickle cell, prostate cancer, type-two diabetes, etc, which have a high ethnic and cultural correlation. But their greed has confirmed the urgency of the need for health care reforms, restricting the business and private practice of contracted health service doctors and imposing a strict demarcation line between the expertise of doctors and the care and welfare responsibilities of nurses.(Quote)
Where is the comment on sickle research at Mona? You lying fraudster. You prowl BU almost everyday being abusive to people who do not offend you. Now you are lying about being a Patwa-speaking child. I know your type, crawling about Nelson Street fighting each other.
With regards to law, all foreign lawyers wanting to practice in Canada HAVE to go back to school to study Canadian Constitutional law in order to pass the bar exams and practice here. I have a Pakistani friend who I warned about this scenario and yet she let her son go to England to study law because he wanted to study there. Now he is back in school and cant practice until he passes the course and write the bar exams.
@ William Skinner
You are one of the few contributors to BU that I respect because of your unbiased views. You don’t play the BLP/DLP cards.
However, despite Hal being respected in his home town, are suggesting he has the right to take personal jabs at people he does not know and they have to accept what he dishes out, but it disrespectful for them to respond to him accordingly?
You are being dishonest if you’re not admitting that Austin is the one who starts insulting people. Ask PLT or the blogmaster.
You should warn him to be a bit more respectful to others.
For Caribbean governments….the land is the key to your people’s wealth…free it up…TO THE PEOPLE..
….for Barbados governments…when you steal the land from the people and from their beneficiaries..you steal their futures…exactly what both governments have done for decades…..and don’t have the intelligence they were born with to know those crimes against the people will return to bite them in the ass…
https://www.facebook.com/BetweenTheScenes/videos/2432691540347452/?t=194
Both unitile governments OWE the majority population reparations for what they have done…and if yall think people don’t know what you criminals did and are still brazenly trying to continue….ya know… ya criminal acts against ya own people….think again.
Are u speaking about the $1EC settlement agreement agreed by govt to accept from Sandals as a good faith payment
More or less which Sandals did agreed to pay to get the devil off their back
MUSCLE BRAIN
GO TO YOUR POST ON April 5, 2013 1:46 PM FOR A START AND FOLLOW THE DISCUSSION THERE
IT IS MOST REVEALING
THAT WAS THE OCCASION WHEN YOU ASSERTED IN YOUR IGNORANCE THAT THE FINDINGS OF KLEBSIELLA AT QEH WAS THE RESULT OF A RAT INFESTED HOSPITAL, THEREBY DEMONSTRATING YOUR IGNORANCE THAT RATS CAUSE LEPTOSPIROSIS
Hal Austin
April 5, 2013 1:46 PM
Georgie
One again you are wrong. The most advanced research on sickle cell is done in the US and Britain.
This is an issue close to my family, and although I do not like mentioning them, a close relative of mine is doing her PhD on sickle cell a promise she made as a little girl when her mother died from complications related to sickle cell.
Just as interesting, the major sickle cell organisation in the UK is organised by a Bajan nurse.
In the Caribbean, the Bahamas were ahead of the UWI.
FOLLOW THE DISCUSSION THERE
IT IS MOST REVEALING
RE Now you are lying about being a Patwa-speaking child. I know your type, crawling about Nelson Street fighting each other.
NONE OF MY MOTHER’S CHILDREN OR MY COUSINS WHO SHE HELPED RAISE SPEAK FRENCH PATOIS. MY FATHER AND GRANDMOTHER WOULD NOT PERMIT IT
I GREW UP MAINLY IN CH CH AND THEN ST JAMES, BUT NEVER CRAWLED ABOUT NELSON STREET
@ Robert Gore
Thanks for your compliment. I was merely suggesting to Bajan in N Y, that he did not join those who take personal jabs at people they don’t know. In this instance, I really meant referring to Hal as a
“bullshiter” from the “Ivy”. I know for a fact that Hal is extremely well thought of in his hometown. In terms of the back and forth, between Hal and others, I think that Hal should at times desist from trying to engage in that type of thing because he is more than capable of getting his points across without such engagement.
There is one other contributor, Whom I would also like to avoid that style because he is perhaps one of the most erudite and absolutely brilliant writers about the place.
We are here to elevate public discourse and we can’t follow the party hacks and others who believe that they have to go personal to win an argument.
And I suspect that ladies contribute and we should always respect the sisters.
Your point is well taken.
SKINNER MA BOY
RE I know for a fact that Hal is extremely well thought of in his hometown
IT HAS BEEN SAID, AND IT IS TRUE THAT IN THE LAND OF THE BLIND, ONE EYE MAN IS KING. BECAUSE HAL ASSTIN THE MAN WITH PORCINE FACIES WHO SPEWS PORCINE FAECES WENT TO LIVE IN THE ONCE, BUT NO LONGER GREAT BRITAIN, FOR MANY YEARS HE IS THE ONE EYE MAN KING IN THE BACK IVY
RE In terms of the back and forth, between Hal and others, I think that Hal should at times desist from trying to engage in that type of thing because he is more than capable of getting his points across without such engagement.
LEFF DE MAN, MAN . LET HIM MEK AN ASS OF HIM SELF TELLING LIES AND TALKING BOUT TINGS HE DONT KNOW BOUT
YOU WILL NOTE THAT HE CAN NOT RESPOND TO THIS
WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE ME A TOUR OF YOUR ROOTS IN THE IVY?
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GIVE YOU A TOUR OF MY MOTHER’S FAMILY ESTATES IN THE NORTH OF DOMINICA?
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GIVE YOU A TOUR OF MY UPBRINGING IN BARBADOS, SIR?
THANK GOD I DID COME UP HAND TO MOUTH, GOING SCHOOL BARE FEET OR SLEEPING ON KHUS KHUS GRASS ETC
IN YOUR RANTING YOU SEEK TO PRESENT THAT DOMINICA IS LESS A PLACE THAN THE IVY?
DID YOUR PARENTS PLANT AND REAP AND EXPORT TONS OF FRUIT AND OTHER FOOD TO BARBADOS AND OTHER CONTIGUOUS ISLANDS INCLUDING MARTINIQUE AND ANTIGUA VIA THEIR FAMILY SCHOONERS?
WHAT HAVE YOU ACHIEVED IN YOUR LENGTHY SOJOURN IN THE ONCE, BUT NO LONGER GREAT BRITAIN, WHERE YOUR BRAIN UNDERWENT DYSPLASTIC CHANGE TO MUSCLE?
RE And I suspect that ladies contribute and we should always respect the sisters.
I IS ONE DAT RESPECT THEM ESPECIALLY THE ONE DAT IS A SELF CONFESSED PICKER UP OF TICKETS AND MY FAVORITE– THE ONE DAT CONFESSES TO FAKING ORGASMS
SKINNER YA GOT TO UNDERSTAND DAT I GET PUT OUT TO PASTURE IN MY MID 60’S, AND BEING A MERE SECOND I HAVE TO FIND SOME INNOVATIVE WAYS TO ENTERTAIN MYSELF
WHAT IS MORE ENTERTAINING THAN DEALING WID A MAN WITH DYPLASIA OF HIS BETZPAENIC CELLS?
YA GOT TO LIKE DE RUM SHOP……EVEN THOUGH I DONT EVER ENGAGE IN ETHANOLIC LIBATIONS
@ Georgie Porgie Porgie
Well I certainly wish you happy days on the pasture. At least I would think or should I say I know, that as members of the University of De Bay Land via Bay Street, do have a little Bussa bussa on BU, civility would be the order of the day.
Go easy on the grass my brother.
You never cease to amaze me. I admire your spirit. Although you’re wrong…… and you know you’re wrong, you will not go down without a fight, even if it makes you look silly in the process.
Your bravery far exceeds your good sense and your head is hard as shiite.
I ask a question and you rattle on
Steupse
MR SKINNER
Well I certainly wish you happy days on the pasture. At least I would think or should I say I know, that as members of the University of De Bay Land via Bay Street, do have a little Bussa bussa on BU, civility would be the order of the day.
Go easy on the grass my brother.
YOUR POST CARRIED ME BACK 60 YEARS WALKING ACROSS THE PASTURE EITHER TO WALK DOWN BECKLES RD OR TO WALK DOWN ST PAULS WITH MY BROTHER
AND I DO REMEMBER ” MANNERS MAKETH MAN” THERE
AND ” HEAD HEART AND HAND” AT ST LAWRENCE
BUT HARD HEADED LIARS WHO TRY TO PUT ME DOWN I ABHOR!
TEN -12 YEARS AGO BU WAS MUCH BETTER. YOU COULD COME HERE AND SHARE INFORMATION WITHOUT IRRITANTS INTERRUPTING ERRONEOUSLY
@Williams, it will be difficult, but I will try to follow you advice and stop referring to Hal Austin as a BSer.
@ Mariposa
You don’t read, do You?
It is amazing how on all blogs we have the same people posting the same predictable responses. It is as if our online egos take over.
Disappointing.
Taking into consideration the amount of information I posted on this topic, I was surprised that you could ask such a STUPID QUESTION. But then I remembered you’re the type of individual that would still “hold fast” to a position, even if it’s proven over and over again, you’re wrong.
In your March 26, 2019 8:37 PM comment, it seems as though you’re suggesting Sandals made a decision to pay the Antiguan government EC$1 as a “good faith payment,” and the government did not have any choice but to accept.
Government’s decision to write off the EC$101,424,448.54 ABST Sandals collected at a discounted rate and with-held…… and then having to pay EC$1 to be “released” from the debt, was legislated in Parliament. Stewart had a choice of complying with the terms of Act or filing a law suit to Court.
Yuh dun know he AGREED and COMPLIED with the Act.
However, I must also remind you that, in 2006, the previous UPP administration, “way of a certificate issued pursuant to Section 16 of the Financial Administration Act, 2006, dated 20th January, 2009 (“the Certificate”), sought to grant Sandals a remission of Antigua and Barbuda Sales Tax (ABST) by reducing the applicable rate.”
According to the “Deed of Release and Settlement of Claim”:
“There has been an issue between the parties hereto and differences have arisen as to the efficacy and legality of the said Certificate.”
Browne was concerned about the legality concerning the previous administration granting the authority to Sandals to collect ABST at a discounted rate, while “Butchie Boy” contended it was legal.
Also, in the “Deed of Release and Settlement of Claim”:
“Sandals shall pay ABST at the FULL STATUTORY RATE as from 1st January, 2017 thus WAIVING any RIGHTS to a DISCOUNTED RATE of ABST under the said Certificate as from that date and by the execution of the release on the conditions hereinafter expressed.”
Now, it’s clear that, through the appropriate legislation, Browne revoked the “right” given to Sandals by the previous UPP administration to collect ABST at a discounted rate.
“Butchie Boy” AGREED and ACCEPTED……… CASE CLOSED.
According one of your previous comments, “However what (you’re) not now clueless (of) that Browne, after all the huffing and puffing about Sandals came to an understanding that he could whip Sandals into submission.”
And Brown is absolutely correct…when ya are a weak-minded leader…it is kinda hard to hide it..lol
“Browne… I feel embarrassed for those weak-minded leaders who allowed themselves to be used
The attack by Browne over the weekend shows up a growing rift in CARICOM as it followed similar criticism by Ralph Gonsalves, the prime minister of St Vincent and the Grenadines who accused the United States of trying to divide the region. The prime minister of Trinidad and Tobago, Keith Rowley, has also weighed in on the matter.”
Look i can go on all day with u
After telling me that Sandals paid the back taxes
You now resort to legal mombojumbos to convince that the little tin horn dictator won
The fact being that Browne initial argument was of having Sandals to pay the full debt of taxes calling them unfair while he was raging he hit a brick wall when Sandals close the resort which caught Browne unaware and clueless having him to make a deal sufficient and enough for Sandals to accept an agreement of tax waivers and 1$ as a good faith agreement on both sides
My point being he tried to be the village bully about asking Sandals to pay full amount of “taxesdue” but in ths end had to renege and waived taxes and accepted $1 EC
I hear Blp having a red shirt day in memory of those men who were gunned down on the streets if Barbados
How symbolic the colour red which was used as a symbol to defeat the past government can be used as a symbol to represent blood on the streets on Heroes day
Wasnt Castro a strong leader see what happened to his people and country
Wasnt Maduro a strong leader
See what is happening to his country and people
Browne can add himself to the list if he wants to be a contiuation of Castro Cuba and Maduro Venezuela
He might talk big but when he starts treading dangerous waters he better be careful
(1). “After telling me that Sandals paid the back taxes….”
According to you……….“you are a friggin liar.”
I never wrote anything in any of my contributions that suggested or could be definitively identified as I “told” you “Sandals paid the back taxes.”
(2). “The fact being that Browne initial argument was of having Sandals to pay the full debt of taxes calling them unfair.”
According to you……….“you are a friggin liar.”
(3). “My point being he tried to be the village bully about asking Sandals to pay full amount of “taxesdue” but in ths end had to renege and waived taxes and accepted $1 EC.”
According to you……….“you are a friggin liar.”
@Mariposa March 27, 2019 1:00 PM “Wasnt Castro a strong leader see what happened to his people and country.”
According to the CIA Factbook, the Cuban infant mortality rate is 4.4 deaths per 1,000 live births in 2013, compared to 5.90 for the United States, and 10 infant per 1,000 births in Barbados
So tell me again what is it again that happened to Cuba??? that a Cuban infant is twice as likely to survive its first year than a Bajan infant, and more likely to survive its first year than an American infant???
It seems to me that both the Bajans and the Americans can learn a lot from the Cubans when it comes to caring for its most vulnerable citizens, that is those PEOPLE who are less than one year old.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/
Oh dear me!
WARU,
Boy that Trevor Noah is a gem! He makes it all so simple that even a dummy could understand. Clear as crystal.
RE It seems to me that both the Bajans and the Americans can learn a lot from the Cubans when it comes to caring for its most vulnerable citizens, that is those PEOPLE who are less than one year old.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU HAVE COMMITED THE FALLACY OF THE UNEXCLUDED MIDDLE
YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE ACCURACY OF THE COMPLETENESS OF STATISTICS FROM CUBA
YOU ARE JUST AS USUAL SHOOTING SHIT, AND ASSUMING THAT EVERYTHING YOU READ ON AN ARTICLE YOU FOUND ON GOOGLE IS TRUE.
STICK TO GROWING THINGS IN YOUR GARDEN AND YOUR ADMITED PROFESSION
ALSO THE FIGURES YOU CITE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH CASTRO’S LEADERSHIP
YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE ACCURACY OF THE COMPLETENESS OF STATISTICS FROM CUBA
Facts!
The data coming out of Cuba are extremely curated.
Girl.u sure as hell doesnt know any thing about America system of govt caring for its elderly
When have you ever seen in america media’s old folks standing on line for govt hand outs the likes u see in Cuba and Venezuela
Even the homeless in America if they choose can have acesss to shelter and food without standing on line
Cuba is a hell hole of poverty reason why many risk their lives on ritty boats to leave
“WARU,
Boy that Trevor Noah is a gem! He makes it all so simple that even a dummy could understand. Clear as crystal.”
He is indeed something, the best of all worlds..
What the hell! the US of A does not even treat its veterans well. They send young men into hell holes and when they return home they have to fight to get treatment and benefits in a timely manner. The VA system does not work well.
How’s that for a jaw dropper!
The people who hated Castro were the privileged ones for the most part. Probably like in Venezuela. Cuba may not be heaven but it sure isn’t hell.
The VA system does not work well. How’s that for a jaw dropper!
BUT IT CAN BE FIXED IF THEY ONLY HAD A SECOND TO SHOW THEM HOW!
THEIR PRIMARY CARE FOR THE POOR CAN ALSO BE FIXED IF THEY ONLY HAD A SECOND TO SHOW THEM HOW!
Then show them, dear GP, dear GP, dear GP. Then show them, dear GP, dear GP show them!
Buy a membership at Mar-a-lago. I hear that’s where it’s being run from. Trump’s buddies with no experience and no idea what they’re doing.
Or do you already have a meeting set up to pitch your proposal?
Good luck!
I wonder where in America that Mariposa is stationed.
The homeless is much more complicated than ” homeless in America, if they choose can have access to shelter and food without standing on line”.
We can agree that Cuba has a set of problems without proclaiming America is a land of milk and honey (for the homeless)
America might be a lot of things many wrongs
But they are also many right things about America
People of delusional mind would want to protray a”Castro Cuba as a place of glorious expectations
I would bet that the homeless in Cuba are rounded up and thrown into mental institutions
In America none of that happens but would be placed in homeless shelters not by force but given an opportunity to stay or go
No, Cuba is not a place of glorious expectations. Neither is the USA for many many people. Where have you been living – under a rock? Why do you think some white people voted for the outsider Obama? Why do you think they took a chance on another outsider – Trump? Most Americans are not happy with the US of A. They wanted to blow the bloody system up! The black people did not vote for Trump. They are not happy either. So who is happy – the rich white people and the politicians, same as here.
PS. I saw one southern white woman saying she was going to try the n***ger because nothing else was working for her. That is how desperate she was. She was not alone.
Once again , there are people on BU , who jump into issues of which they know very little. Here we are trying to put down a country where Barbadians go for free eye treatment, educating doctors and university education. A country that withstood perpetual assaults by the mighty America. Compare the leadership of Comrade Castro with our own CARICOM leaders sitting outside a door at the white house waiting on a president who insulted the region by choosing whom he wants to meet. A shame…………….
Venceremos the mighty people of Cuba
Easy to talk racism in america. Yeah yuh right
But they got some right here in barbados racist and bigots
But not to divert attention away
Trying to put Castro on a pedestal because he cuss America is about all one can say of Castro and his coming as close to America’s doors.
The long and short is evident in Castro Cuba where all its people long to have a better life away from Cuba heading to America
Yet to see a boat load of people from any country seeking or looking for a better life in Cuba
Trump has a limit on how many leaders of “Shole” countries he is willing to meet at any one time, wunnah can’t see he is not even willing to meet with the Governor of Puerto Rico?
@Georgie Porgie March 28, 2019 12:11 PM “T SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU HAVE COMMITED THE FALLACY OF THE UNEXCLUDED MIDDLE.”
You may not have noticed that the data was from the “World Factbook” compiled and published by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency.
I don’t know whether or not the CIA has some hidden, nefarious reason for telling the world that Cuba has a better infant mortality rate than the United States.
@Dullard March 28, 2019 12:19 PM “YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE ACCURACY OF THE COMPLETENESS OF STATISTICS FROM CUBA. Facts! The data coming out of Cuba are extremely curated.”
The American “non Embassy” in Cuba is the biggest most heavily staffed in the Western hemisphere. The publication which I cited is compiled by CIA operatives on the ground. You think that the CIA waits to be handed official Cuban figures? You think that they get paid well not to use their own eyes, ears, and brains? You think that the Cubans can fool them easy, easy so?
Why do you think that I quoted data from an American source? Like GP do you think that I “found” the data by “googling” What if I told you that i knew EXACTLY where to look?
Have you asked yourself why Americans would say that Cuban infants are more likely to survive their first year than American infants? Do the Americans just want to make Cuba look good?
Isn’t Cuba not still the enemy, part of the axis of evil?
“I don’t know whether or not the CIA has some hidden, nefarious reason for telling the world that Cuba has a better infant mortality rate than the United States.”
CIA deviousness can only go so far and no further…lol
@ William Skinner,
Do you know that the late CLR James visited Cuba in 1968 and after that refused to mention Cuba or the Castros in his writings or conversations, apart from the Facing Realty group he co-founded?
re Do you know that the late CLR James visited Cuba in 1968 and after that refused to mention Cuba or the Castros in his writings or conversations, apart from the Facing Realty group he co-founded?
how foes that affect the price of cheese MUSCLE BRAIN?
who cares what CLR JAMES DID MUSCLE BRAIN?
HE IS NOT THE SAVIOUR.
RE “I don’t know whether or not the CIA has some hidden, nefarious reason for telling the world that Cuba has a better infant mortality rate than the United States.”
CAUSE IT DOES NOT MATTER
RE YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE ACCURACY OF THE COMPLETENESS OF STATISTICS FROM CUBA. Facts! The data coming out of Cuba are extremely curated.”
THIS IS VERY TRUE
There are a those who have a hatred of america
Yes america has done many wrongs
But govts that use there people as collateral to fight america is also wrong
The pain and suffering which these dictators have heaped upon their people is as much wrong as when a bomb is used to destroy enemy territory and innocent lives are lost
Right now in Cuba a war of words which has been going on for more than fifty years between america and Cuba has resulted in more death and poverty to innocent lives in Cuba
This never ending war of words were no bombs are thrown have a far reaching effect immorally on the lives of the poor and vulnerable
If there were records kept one would realised the total devastation of inhumanity cause by vegenance and hated between two countries that have been caused to the nation of Cuba and its people
Castro might have pushed america out of Cubas way
However what he did not do or was able to stop was never ending poverty and a country looking to america for help
While alive he witnessed the many lives of his people drowned as they flee Cuba looking for a better life
Home Grown dictators like Gaston Browne who choose to walk in Castro shoes would so find out that the consequences are dire and everlasting for his people
Gadaffi.Ben laden..Chavez .Castro
All these strong leaders put up fights against America they all dead and America still standing
Well Browne if he wants to take on the challenge he can do so at his countries peril.
Plse explain how a young woman, a teenager (aged between 13-19) makes her way to Barbados, a strange country. We may assume that this young woman had a last passed school leaving age. Presumably no friend or family to meet her. She travelled on the family-owned schooner, disembarked on the Careenage, and walked the 800 yards to a mile to Nelson Street.
This was at a time (the 1940s, 50s to the early 60s) when most foreigners came from St Lucia (Patwa-speaking), St Vincent and Dominica (Patwa-speaking)Young people, men and women, travel, so there is nothing terrible about this. Further, land in Dominica in those days was not terribly expensive. I have visited Dominica on a number of occasions and was once offered 20 acres of land at a very knock down price. It was tempting, but I was reluctant to live in Dominica at my then age; I would now.
In those days Dominicans made for Mrs Duncan’s, who owned a rum shop at the bottom of King William street, who would organise accommodation and once settled a job. Most of the job were as domestics, working for families such as the La Touches.
In time this young lady met a nice Bajan man and was happy and fulfilled. Her son even went on to do well..
Plse explain how a young woman, a teenager (aged between 13-19) makes her way to Barbados, a strange country. We may assume that this young woman had a last passed school leaving age. Presumably no friend or family to meet her. She travelled on the family-owned schooner, disembarked on the Careenage, and walked the 800 yards to a mile to Nelson Street.
YOU ARE SUCH AN ASS
1 DID IT OCCUR TO YOU THAT THE YOUNG WOMAN HAD RELATIVES IN BARBADOS?
AND THAT SHE THEREFORE HAD family to meet her?
2 IS YOUR PREOCCUPATION WITH NELSON STREET A FUNCTION OF THE QUANTUM OF TIME YOU SPENT IN ITS ENVIRONS?
3 WHEN A JACKASS WITH MUSCLE BRAINS WRITES WITHOUT THE FACTS HE PRODUCES HILARIOUS NONSENSE
4 DID IT OCCUR TO YOU THAT SOME ONE WHO travelled on the family-owned schooner WOULD MOST LIKELY BE TRAVELLING WITH RELATIVES AND WOULD HAVE SOME WHERE TO GO TO LIVE BESIDES NELSON STREET?
RE This was at a time (the 1940s, 50s to the early 60s) when most foreigners came from St Lucia (Patwa-speaking), St Vincent and Dominica (Patwa-speaking)
WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO DISPLAY THAT YOU ARE A JACKASS MR MUSCLE BRAIN
DO YOU KNOW THAT MANY PATOIS SPEAKING FOLK FROM ST LUCIA AND DOMINICA SPEAK ENGLISH WELL? AND THAT SOME OF THEM ARE /WERE RICHER THAN YOU WERE AND APPARENT STILL IS?
IT SEEMS THAT YOU ARE STILL HOLDING FAST TO THE PRIMITIVE BAJAN BELIEFS ABOUT THE “LOW ISLANDS” AND FOLK FROM THE LOW ISLANDS, BECAUSE YOUR MIND IS LOW….VERY LOW
AFTER A LENGTHY SOJOURN IN THE ONCE GREAT BRITAIN YOUR MIND REMAINS IN THE UNSWEPT GUTTER OF THE BACK IVY, AND YOUR EXPERIENCES IN YOUR FREQUENT VISITS TO NELSON STREET
YOU TALK SO MUCH ABOUT PATOIS SPEAKING PEOPLE
DO BAJANS STILL SPEAK BROKEN ENGLISH?
DO THE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE BRITISH COMMONWEALTH NOT ALSO SPEAK IN THIER SEVERAL DIALECTS IN ADDITION TO SPEAKING ENGLISH?
DOES THIS MAKE THEM INFERIOR TO YOU OR BAJANS?
I AM SO SORRY THAT YOUR BRAIN HAS UNDERGONE DYPLASTIC CHANGE
I HATE TO THINK THAT YOU HAVE SPENT YOUR WHOLE LIFE OF OVER 70 YEARS WITH YOUR MIND IN THE GUTTER AND WITH YOUR CHARACTERISTIC PAUCITY OF THOUGHT
DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOUR PORCINE FEATURES?
COME AGAIN AND LET ME FURTHER DECIMATE YOUR ILLOGIC
A happy good morning to all of Barbados
Wishing all mothers, fathers, sons, daughters and their offspring the very best.
A happy good morning to all
I was trying not to comment, but will add a small note here..
Don’t come again,
What’s the point
Drop it
Move on.
NO THEO
ENCOURAGE HIM TO COME BACK FOR A BEATING FROM HIS INTELLECTUAL SUPERIOR
HE WILL NOT LEARN CAUSE HIS BRAIN IS ALL MUSCLE
BUT I HAVE THE TIME TO BEAT HIS LONG HOPS, HAVING BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE, AS A SECOND
This reminds me of the standpipe bassa bassa in Barbadian folklore.
Um en me
It is you
Yuh confuse
Um en me
It is you
Yuh confuse
I wake up dis marnin an seh my Lord’s Prayer
Um en me
It is you
Yuh confuse
Wuhnuh remember how de brawling women used to cuss one anudder talkin bout who en come from nuhwhere. who come pon a banana boat, who does ga school barefoot a who is a whore and de daughter of a whore etc etc etc?
Was looking for video of Sing Out Barbados but alas!
NO DONNA DARLING
THIS IS ABOUT TEACHING AN IDIOT THAT ONE CAN NOT AJUDICATE PROPERLY WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS
THIS IS ABOUT TEACHING AN IDIOT THAT ONE MUST JUDGE RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT AND NOT BY THE APEARANCE
THIS IS ABOUT TEACHING AN IDIOT TO KNOW HIS PLACE
Mariposa,
Do you know how old Castro was when he died?????????? He was bloody ninety!
How old was Errol Barrow?
PS. How was Libya doing under Gaddafi? How is it doing now?
Have you the secret to teaching an idiot???? An idiot seldom knows when he’s beaten.
Good luck with that!
What is your point about how old Castro was
The fact is he died trying to beat America into the ground which he did not
America is still standing and having the last word
@Donna March 30, 2019 9:56 AM “This reminds me of the standpipe bassa bassa in Barbadian folklore.”
Ya killin’ muh den!!!
Lolll!!!
@Mariposa March 30, 2019 10:26 AM “What is your point about how old Castro was
The fact is he died trying to beat America into the ground.”
What are you talking about?
When did Cuba ever try to beat America into the ground?
The United States has a population of 327,167,434, and an active and reserve military of 2 million men and women.
Cuba has a population of 11,221,060.
Why would Cuba try to beat up on a country 30 times its size, and with 2 million armed men and women?
The truth is that America tried to beat Castro into the ground. .
https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/the-bay-of-pigs
After fighting to keep america hands off of Cuba what good at present is their to show that Castro policies helped decrease poverty in Cuba fifty years and counting Cuba is a haven of poor people mostly black
@Maripose “a what good at present is their to show that Castro policies helped decrease poverty in Cuba”
Here is the evidence: According to the CIA Factbook, the Cuban infant mortality rate is 4.4 deaths per 1,000 live births in 2013, compared to 5.90 for the United States, and 10 infant per 1,000 births in Barbados
If your babies are NOT dying it means that you are doing something right. The Canadian babies are not dying either, since there are 4.5 deaths/1,000 live births (2018 est.).
But I suppose that somebody will come on here and tell me that the Canadian data is heavily curated, or that I have committed the fallacy of the unexcluded middle. if someone has committed a fallacy me thinks that it is President Trump’s excellent CIA.
@ Hal Austin
It is not unusual for revolutionaries to have differences. James was also highly critical of Eric Williams and the manner in which the Peoples” National Movement was developing.In more recent times, we saw the fundamental differences between Bernard Coard and Maurice Bishop.
I am therefore not surprised that some on BU , in this thread, have consumed all the negative anti-Castro messaging without carefully analyzing what the Cuban revolution achieved.