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The blogmaster continues the exchange with Sarah Cyrus regarding accusations leveled at Ministers George Payne and Dale Marshall.  You will recall the first exchange represented in the blog post – Family Feud Over Land Matter Gone Public.

In an effort to get a better understanding the blogmaster asked a few more questions:

1. With such a large settle for the land, 2.4 million dollars- why did she die in poverty? Where is the money?

The land sale took a very long time because the original deeds were lost.  For ten years, Ms. Atwell survived on her pension and financial assistance from her great-nephew Teon and another cousin.  It never occurred to the other beneficiary to check and ascertain that bills were being paid.  I was told that Ermine advised other family members as to the bank where funds are being held.  The funds belong to Ermine’s Estate and her sister in equal parts.  The sister insists that she wants the land back.  Ermine was the Executrix and made the best decision for the Estate and for her own survival.

2. Why did the attempt to settle the matter in a civil manner fail?

From what I was told by other family members, those who are screaming on social media chose to go to court rather than sit down and have a conversation.

3. A question that forces you to be speculative, where do you see a non litigious settlement to this matter?

I believe that Ms. Stewart is enjoying 15 minutes of fame and expects that the sale will be reversed because of public sentiment. With respect to settling short of legal action, I have been told that one family member flew to Barbados at her own expense and attempted to meet with Mr. Payne and Ms. Stewart and her mother.  Mr. Payne’s office accepted the appointment and when the three women arrived, the secretary advised them that Mr. Payne could not meet with them because, “they had engaged in litigation.”   I doubt that they are willing to settle the matter short of getting the beach land back.The family has sided with Mrs. Atwell on this matter and are no longer commenting.

4. What did the will leave for the others? Can we see?  

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189 responses to “The Estate of Marie Stewart – Family Feud Over Land Matter Gone Public II”

  1. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    WARU August 28, 2018 7:44 PM

    The last time i checked it normally takes two hands to clap.

    Unless u are in parliament where the perfer to thump the desk?

    The thumping can be done with one hand; i guess they are a creative bunch. those MPs


  2. Lol…if they know how very, very ugly all of this is looking to the outside world, they would be change the optics, but I won’t hold my breath, it appears they are planning to dig in, so let’s see how well that works out.


  3. Attorney General Dale Marshall has underscored the need for the Integrity in Public Life Act in light of “recent events”

    ” The Chairman of the Joint Select Committee set up to discuss this legislation meeting yesterday in the Senate Chamber stated, “Recent events well known to Barbadians, have served to underscore the significance of our government grappling with corruption in the earliest and as strong as possible way”.

    Reminding persons that the committee was not a commission of public inquiry, Marshall said it was a forum by which the public could give feedback on the law, noting that so far 14 written submissions had been received and seven individuals have indicated a wish to make oral presentations to the committee.
    Saying that the committee would be in existence for three months, he urged the public with suggestions or concerns to make them known.”


  4. I wonder if Dale would allow the Stewarts to give an oral submission


  5. Many so-called founders of non-developing countries only pressed for independence to get get rid off British/French etc. pp. effort to stop corruption in their territories.

    And look where they are today … Most former colonies are not failed states, but fake states emulating political legal institutions or technical facilities in a completely dysfunctional way.

    Just look at the Barbados Supreme Court or the local sewage system. Both have very of much in common 🙂


  6. @Bush Tea August 28, 2018 8:22 AM “Name ANYTHING in Barbados run by lawyers that actually work.”

    Ahhhmmm!!! Ahhhmmm!!! aHHHmmm!!!

    Can I get back to you tomorrow or next week?


  7. @Tron August 28, 2018 8:45 AM “Many so-called “educated” Barbadians told me over the last few weeks how excited they were that Bim soon receives dollars from the IMF. What these clueless figures do not know is the simple fact that the IMF loan makes Barbadians poorer than ever.”

    I told you just last night that you have to stop mixing with these idiots who live with you in gated places (I can’t call them communities”

    I advised you to get some sensible more intelligent friends, but wunna men don’t like to listen until the police got de cuffs on wunna

    I am cafuffled with numbers of more than 3 digits, but even I understand that borrowed money is DEBT, not an asset, and that DEBT has to be paid back, so we will have to work harder, longer, or harder AND longer, or sell something that we have, and when you are deeply in debt and have to start selling the sharks come circling.

    I know that even though I got a D- in Economics 101.

    @Tron August 28, 2018 8:45 “Just like the GG who flies to London for some private shopping.”

    You idiot. Why you don’t stop telling lies on our GG? Isn’t she allowed some time off to attend a family funeral, and to comfort the bereaved?

    You think that everybody is you who can only think about Meile showers and Italian marble, and how much you can acquire for how little if Bajans have to migrate of sell to sharks like you. Look one of thes days YOU WILL DIE, and you won’t be taking the materialistic crap with you.

    Naked you came into this world, and naked you will return.

    Be off do!!!


  8. So we are here after many Facebook and blog postings.

    How does this family progress the matter?

    If one reads between the lines, the proceeds form the sale of the land should be ‘sitting’ in a Estate Bank Account somewhere in Barbados.

    For justice to be served for Mother and Daughter the land sale will have to be reversed and this can only be done in THE BARBADOS Court or by an out of court arrangement.

    In both scenarios it requires boots on the ground to marshall the effort to relieve themselves of the emotional pain being suffered.


  9. For justifiable resoultion to be served it would require a moral conscience on the wrong doers but i doubt very much if the wrong doers have one


  10. The biggest concern we should have here now is exactly how many of the Judges sitting on the supreme court bench are taking bribes to help steal land from the elderly, I am also including elderly, vulnerable whites in this because a thief is a thief and once consumed with enough greed, will reach a stage that they no longer care who they steal from…

    ..how many bribetaking judges take bribes from an insurance company(ies) to destroy a personal injury case despite being paid at least 10K per month in salary …at taxpayer’s expense, a free mercedes vehicle….at taxpayer’s expense….AND free housing…at taxpayer’s expense.. cause they certainly do no damn work at the Supreme Court, no timely decisions, they maliciously keep adjourning cases for years andvdecades leaving them unfinished and without closure and helping their lawyer friends, high school and lodge buddies to keep the cases lingering in adjournments indefinitely. ..effectively destroying the lives of their own people…who pay their salaries.

    Now these are the same damn judges who complain ad nauseum about the CCJ not appointing any of them to the bench..well newsflash…the CCJ done know what yall do and do not want any bribetaking bajan judges on their Bench to pollute the organization ….as Fruendel was hoping,..

    ..so yall may as well stop whining about not sitting on the CCJ bench.until ya stop the corruption and bribetaking in the Supreme Court…stop destroying the vulnerable people who pay your salaries so you dont have to live pay check to paycheck and can continue to be uppity and arrogant. ..

    Simmons also thought that they did not know about him and his double dealing corruption…am sure the CCJ was his ultimate goal to really become untouchable, but they want their integrity intact, they can’t have that level of destruction around them..no hints of corruption or lack of integrity can be associated with the entity.

    One day I happened to be there and people where asking where the judges are, the session and sitting had resumed, why were they not at work and someone in the know said, they are more than likely driving around in their taxpayer funded Merceds looking for someone to bribe them….at the time I thought it was a joke, but not one person in the group was laughing.., then I knew fpr sure the people on the island had a real problem….from the parliament to the supreme court is thoroughly corrupt through and through..

    BTW…people are stilling waiting to get court dates, we know the Manor Lodge location lack space and employees are right on top of each other, but more the reason to get these civil cases out of the system….so far I understand it is only one acting judge working diligently to bring closure to civil cases….so Mia exactly what are the other judges doing…ah can’t ask Marshall…he is too damn corrupt.


  11. The judiciary is a failed institution!!

    Can’t even keep a physical building open or manage a schedule.


  12. Is the so-called judiciary responsible for the maintenance of the buildings?


  13. John,

    The rule of law is the foundation of any democracy. If the justice systems fails, the state has failed.


  14. Yeah John, near the end of August and their schedule/calendar ends at August 3rd I believe…a completely useless entity is the judiciary.


  15. David
    You got a legal opinion or your statement is based on emotion?


  16. @enuff

    No legal opinion, simply trying to sniff out all sides. It would be good if a transcript of Worrells decision can be made public. In the absence of valid information the agendas will take root.


  17. “We speak at length of the Problem WARU why is there no antipode and solution?”

    I got a solution…a bullet to the head for each of them, but that is me, am not telling anyone else to do it, but should any of these lowlife scum in that Supreme Court even dream of doing that to any elderly relative or injured family member of mine, they will get a bullet to their useless corrupt head…

    In reality.., the Chairman of the Judicial Services Commission Chief Justice Marston Gibson who has received information repeatedly about these nasty practices at the supreme court and who has REFUSED to address them…who keeps going along merrily like he is living in a dream…should be damn well fired.

    In saying that…ALL OF THEM.., are TOO CORRUPT to reverse the corruption at the judiciary…outside help will be needed and a few of them imprisoned. ., that is the ONLY solution….outside of any of them fcking around with any relatives of mine..and getting that promised bullet.

    I see Marshall asking the US Ambassador for help with the judiciary…am sure he neglected to mention to her the level of corruption that caused the dysfunction..

    And can you believe…I am one of the head people spent the last five years giving these judges the benefit of the doubt, blaming the lawyers for everything ALTHOUGH….intelligence was telling me differently ..

    Enuff is right, I ain’t bright at all..


  18. @”WARU August 29, 2018 8:38 AM “a bullet to the head for each of them.”

    David please ask WARU not to make murder threats.

    Thanks.


  19. Yeah Enuff.., Marshall thinks he is slick…asking the US Ambassador for help with the supreme court! pretending he is oh so helpless to clean it up and fix it and neglecting to mention to her that he too is a head culprit, a head purveyor of the corruption permeating every level of the court….and got the nerve to think they don’t know…


  20. Simple…who I threaten to murder…did you read the part where I said if THEY DREAMED…so who murders anyone for a dream…stop seeing what you want to see..


  21. Ya see my last post above…that is what should concern you.


  22. Yall let these lowlife scum whose salaries ya gotta pay monthly bully you, rob you, push you around, lie and deceive you, hound your elderly to death for their proprieties, their own inheritances and then ya sit there and are afraid to raise ya voices and talk tough to them…because ya are afraid they MURDER YOU.or LOCK YOU UP…..so how do yall think that is going to end.

    They don’t threaten to murder people they’ve been doing it and what have any of you done about it, don’t get me started on the real mayhem that really goes on in that pile of shit.


  23. The point that you are missing WARU, is that Bajans like the situation exactly as it is….
    You (and Bushie) just spitting in the air…. upwind.
    LOL
    ha ha ha


  24. Bushman…at least you could still laugh, but when they are coming for me, they better bear in my I am always locked and loaded and ready for bear..

    , Simple might run under her bed and hide but I will meet their asses at my front door and in full stride.


  25. Had not for the BU blog..and newer blogs this state of affairs would continue unabated for another 52 years because everyone is so afraid, cowed, beaten down and dumbed down…how could an “educated” population allow this to happen and keep happening ….and the criminals, the culprits of government and the judiciary are the ones you have to pay a monthly salary…how did it reach to this.

    I know for a fact that people had complained for years and nonstop, pleading and begging for help and an ease from these criminals, begging those who would love to help but can’t for various reasons…

    Even worse these Judges whom I gave the benefit of the doubt for 5 whole years totally embarrassed me, I don’t take that shit lightly at all…uhhhhh, uhhhhh….I thought at least the judges would understand that they are in positions of trust for which they are handsomely paid with perks, one would think they at least would take integrity seriously, protect the people who come before them and not collude with their friends and fellow lawyers against the most vulnerable people on the island.

    Mia is also enjoying the benefit of my doubt ..but for a time.


  26. I read a story where Payne a couple years back use plant pots to corridor land which was not his and the owners living in Uk came to Barbados with documents in hand and had the plants removed


  27. This is the type of lack of integrity and lack of ethics that everyone accepts as normal and par for the course in Barbados..let’s see how it plays out..

    So just imagine how those who are not familiar with the laws or the constitution and don’t even know they can shout out and scream when their basic human rights are violated…how the criminals in the bar association, the judiciary and in parliament treat them, especially when they are old, weak and vulnerable….

    this one does not even have respect for the Mia government…

    “Members of the Guyson Mayers-led Police Service Commission (PSC) have been asked to resign.

    Minister of Home Affairs Edmund Hinkson has written to the commissioners asking them to immediately send their letters of resignation to Prime Minister Mia Mottley.

    “I am directed to kindly request you to submit a letter placing your instrument of appointment as a member of the Police Service Commission at the disposal of the Prime Minister, The Honourable Mia Amor Mottley, QC, MP,” stated Hinkson in the letter, a copy of which was obtained by Barbados TODAY.

    Hinkson expressed gratitude to the commissioners for past services rendered to the PSC and said he “looks forward to your early positive response”.

    However, in a defiant response, Mayers, who told Barbados TODAY he was unaware of the letters, dismissed the correspondence from the minister, stating: “There is no legal authority for such a letter.”

    Asked whether he had received one the PSC chairman replied: “Nobody would send me such a letter.”

    The Service Commission’s (Police Service) Regulations, 1964 CAP.34 does not address the issue of the chairman simultaneously serving as an executive member of a major political party.

    Mayers, an attorney-at-law, has come under fire for holding on to the position since his recent election as general secretary of the Democratic Labour Party (DLP), having replaced George Pilgrim in that position.

    Among his harshest critics was Caswell Franklyn, the trade unionist and Opposition senator, who suggested at a recent sitting of the Senate that Mayers did not have “a little bit of integrity”.

    “That would never happen when people have a little bit of integrity. The thing is, the commissioner is not on these boards where the minister responsible can revoke their appointments, they have to misbehave in office and there is some little tribunal or whatever to take them out or they resign if they know better,” Franklyn said during the debate on the Public Service (General) Order, 2018.”


  28. @David
    How does this family progress the matter?
    +++++++++++++++
    Didn’t they mention a local lawyer? Is he still on the case? That individual should be pushing it Facebook postings will only get you so far or the “Estate” lawyers will be channeling Mickey Dee “Time is on my Side”


  29. Mayers has a right to question the validity of the correspondence
    But Caswell barking up the tree of integrity to throw stones at Mayers right to question makes for a belly laugh when he sits on the Committee of Integrity in close comfort to ministers whose character and integrity is being held up across social media for full scrutiny
    There is nothing illegal about questioning a correspondence by any govt official
    Last time i checked this was a democracy and not a dictatorship


  30. @Sargeant

    It is one thing to name and shame but how will settlement be achieved in their lifetime? The blogmaster is familiar with similar issues of estate settlement that have been outstanding for more that 15 years. They should not get sucked in by those with political agendas.

    A clarification, the blogmaster understands the proceeds of the land sale was deposited in a personal account which is highly unusual on the face of it.


  31. @David
    A clarification, the blogmaster understands the proceeds of the land sale was deposited in a personal account which is highly unusual on the face of it
    ++++++++++++++
    It could mean that the “Estate” lawyers recognized someone as the “Executor” of the estate and issued a cheque in their personal name. or it could be as simple as the deceased having a joint account and the cheque issued in the name of the deceased and deposited (remember the Bank wouldn’t know if someone has passed and the account could operate as usual).

    Integrity in Public Office? How about Integrity in Private Practice.


  32. @Sargeant

    In this case where other parties are beneficiaries there is the ethical requirement to place monies in an Estate Account.


  33. Sargeant…Dr. Ramsay seems to have been their. lawyer, he recently passed away, the ladies will have to look for a new lawyer , they are better off hiring one off island..the evil is real, I have seen it myself, we have seen it ourselves…Mrs. Smith was murdered and she is one of many…..fortunately for THEM I have no relatives on the island who can be subjected to that level of terrorist tactics, hounding and thievery from lawyers like PAIN and TEETS…Simple must be relieved..lol

    If so…that is not “highly unusual” that is a criminal act, proceeds are not deposited in personal accounts..lawyers have escrow and client accounts set up just for that…it is a clear case of not only elder abuse, feeding the elderly lady a steady diet of cigarettes, stress and whatever else to speed up her death…but the motive was always theft of land from the executrix…the fly in their ointment was the surviving beneficiary….but obviously not even that deterred those two ghouls and feeders of dead flesh.

    ..the daughter said she spoke to someone at CCJ which advised the whole thing is fraudulent and criminal…maybe she should start pursuing this first as a criminal matter..fraud and theft, if the commissioner will see it as a complaint, but first she has to file it on the ground in Barbados ..

    …the money issue is really for the foolish purchaser to pursue with those two thieves who stole land to sell him.

    Old Fowl..have a read of the Constitution..and Mayers should too.


  34. @David
    We all agree about that…… but who was the cheque payable to? Banks are fairly consistent about these matters so I can’t see them accepting a large cheque payable to an Estate and depositing to a personal account.

    However, there is a caveat, the “Executor” could be a sole Executor with solo signing authority on the account in which case they could transfer the funds to their personal account, in that case they have not fulfilled their fiduciary duty to the other beneficiaries but this is Barbados and it’s the “Wild Wild West” as we can see with this case.


  35. “Now yuh dead a..ses come up here talking crap trying to defend Payne and Dale even when the evidence point of illegality in their direction….”

    Mariposa

    I want you to indicate to me where in my contribution I sought to defend Payne and Marshall.

    However, you need to answer the question.

    In your new found conscience, are you admitting that you were wrong in defending Carrington’s actions relative to John Griffiths?


  36. Oh no…I made an error…the lawyer for the two ladies is the same Hal Gollop of Mrs. Smith fame..

    I mixed up the cases, that was another case same problem, same two thieving ghouls…PAIN and TEETS.


  37. @ Simple Simon August 29, 2018 12:26 AM

    Barbados is now in the most critical situation since independence. Not even the death of a child or a brother or a sister justifies the leaders of the country to leave their position in their high offices. Just a question: Did General Bussa leave his position when he fought for justice and freedom of his people? He sacrificed even his live for his people although he knew there won´t be any grand funeral as in the case of Lord Nelson. And therefore I admire Bussa so much. He is a true inspiration for everybody living on this island.

    Principle and duty above personal needs. Everybody living on this island shall demand that the leaders of the country spend 100 hours per week working on the reform of the public sector and on the restructuring and payment of debts. We had enough talk about “family and live” last year in the CJ´s speech at the opening of the new judicial year.

    We need leaders we can look up to, leaders high in the sky, not leaders who could be our sister or brother.


  38. But seriously, now I think of it..Hal Gollop is a QC, he knows the INs and OUTS of that Supreme Court…why was he unable to even get to first base with this case, he would have known it is land theft, so what is he playing at, were it me, I would hire a UK lawyer that can practice in Barbados or one from the other islands…because obviously Gollop in this case, is ineffective for whatever reason..


  39. @Sargeant

    If the proceeds went to the Executrix account then explain why she was not able to access the one third portion of funds to improve herself?


  40. @David
    Are you speaking of the “loan”? Perhaps I should describe it as a phantom loan as far as I can surmise there is no visible evidence that it was used to improve her circumstances. In the old days Solicitors used to advance funds to clients and hold their land as security if the landowner was unable to repay the Solicitor realized on their security and the land was lost. If this “loan” was advanced to an individual with the land as security when the land was part of an Estate it doesn’t pass the smell test.

    We can’t locate the Justice’s decision, we don’t know the paper trail except for a few bits and pieces and for the lawyers “Mums” the word.

    Maybe Hal is correct


  41. So in keeping with the spirit of civic mindedness I asked someone to kindly send a message to the ladies with Hal Gollop’s history..because something is not sitting right about this mess here…..Gollop as a lawyer would know PAIN and TEETS engaged in land theft, so what other angle could he have pursued this case from other than land theft and fraud against the surviving beneficiary…

    The CCJ gave the daughter the correct advice, so what was Gollop’s game.


  42. A lot of those lawyers want dragging off the island and dumping in some caged hole like Guantanamo Bay or down some dark site hole in the far reaches of Europe, they are repulsive and despicable…maybe then the others will stop committing crimes against the population for the sole purpose of enriching themselves..

    unless drastic action is taken against 5 or 6 of them, this will not end, it is a well worn, well used criminal template they have passed on to each other through the Bar Association since the 1950s……..notice I did not say bullet to the head…lol


  43. lol..so Payne is starring in his own land fraud saga online, complete with photos of stolen land, he is famous.

    I am beginning to wonder if Mia thinks this is cute that 2 of her ministers are well on their way to bringing her down, maybe she likes it so…what do I know.

    No one needs to be whistleblowers, ya done know none of them can be trusted and would pick up their phones and extort a bribe or some favour from the person whose name is called for the information and give up the whistleblower…there is social media everywhere to expose their asses, and it’s most effective.

    But my main point is…can any of these ministers and lawyers stop looking at stolen land and stolen money and corruption and how much they can rip off bajans for the next 5 years for just one minute and envision where all of this is going, because it is clear that they are not seeing it and as very generous and kindhearted as I am known to be..I sure as hell don’t feel. generous enough to tell any of them, because every time I see them, I also see their victims, so what is heading toward them like the Acela, or the Shinkansen they damn well deserve it… I cannot think of any other group of people more deserving.


  44. Watch Hal Gollop!


  45. My sentiments exactly, I know Jackie is savvy and would have figured by now that something is not quite right, but given what she was told by CCJ and Hal Gollop as a QC and someone who traverses the Supreme Court on a daily basis and he could not see what the CCJ saw and give his clients that same advice and have them file a criminal complaint against Payne and Marshall with the police while they were on the island..says a lot about his actions and motives regarding the case…watch him, I would fire his ass immediately, I would not even have to hear anything about the murdered Mrs. Smith and his role in that confrontation.


  46. Now this is what i talking about

    George Walton Payne
    Is he. Or is he not?

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=873669412842599&id=100005986451739


  47. “The other segment to the CCJ drama unfolding was the criticism levelled by the CCJ at two prominent senior lawyers Vernon Smith and Hal Gallop, QCs by CCJ president Justice Sir Dennis Byron in delivering on the case Systems Sales Ltd. The criticism was quickly dismissed by Smith as ‘diatribe’ .”

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2015/02/21/barbados-and-ccj-in-a-tiiff/


  48. So sorry that Gollop, Smith and Haynes were not fined $50,000 each by CCJ just for believing the CCJ was as corrupt as their playground at the Supreme Court…am sure they made the justices skin crawl…I got too close to those three one time and my skin actually crawled…none is better than the other.

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