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At 1:05AM EST the blogmaster had the uncontrollable urge to lookup the definition of ‘stupidity’.  One of many definitions a trusty Google search brought back was – behavior that shows a lack of good sense or judgment. The reason to refresh the memory of a a well used word in the every day lexicon of John Public surprisingly had nothing to do with having to read the daily comments posted by certain BU characters. It happened after watching the following video.

The three former ministers and a Senator in the last general election have the right to share views.  What is surprising though is that we have a political party decimated at the polls not feeling any urgency to come to the pubic to make ‘peace’. The majority of the public – we estimate 70% – sent a loud message that it has no confidence in the Democratic Labour Party as it relates to managing the affairs of state. What we want to know is how does the DLP plan to organize itself to be relevant in a period strong opposition will be required to safeguard the interest of Barbadians.

What many of us do not want to hear is a fragmented DLP lot coming to an expectant public looking for change to spout rejected narratives. Where is the credibly to be found in the four soundly defeated candidates pontificating about concerns they were found guilty of on the 24 May 2018?

The first job of the DLP is to organize itself to demonstrate to the public it understands where it has failed as a party, AND,  here is what we have done to correct. As a party it has not taken any positive decisions to assuage recent public opinion it is a credible political party to be considered the government in waiting. Especially given the frenetic pace the Barbados Labour Party has embarked since taking the reins of government

After ten years in government what is the enduring memories of the four by the blogmaster you ask? Donville, hot air. Estwick, puppy and Jesus Christ, Stephen Lashley, $2.00 stadium and Verla, always pun CBC.

 

 

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98 responses to “DLP Comfortable in the Political Wilderness”

  1. T.Inniss Avatar
    T.Inniss

    I am sure this blog is not from David/BU because it appears very convoluted.

    Oh and may I ask – did the blp when they reduced to 3 members and the dlp when they were reduced to 2 -did they fall prostrate before the public?

    This is not the time for public flagellation,but for an acknowledgement that some members of the public were not happy with what they had to offer and how it was offered and they will internally look at correcting those areas.

    I think it is admirable of them to at such an early stage to offer alternative perspectives on this current government offerings.

    It seems as though you are damnned if you though and damned if you don’t.People were saying they needed to speak and now that they have started to speak – people want to tell them how they should speak.

  2. David Avatar
    David

    You missed the point of the blog big time. Then again this is not surprising.

  3. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Those 4 look real good sitting in their seats looking and sounding stupid, it looks good on them, they wear it well…let them stay there.

  4. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    The whole disaster is unfolding now. Canadian business banks which form the backbone of the local financial system, face billions of losses.

    I wonder who forced them to hold so many BB gov bonds which were trash long before the present PM declared default. FCIB is already considering to move its headquarters to another island.

    If I had CIBC shares in my portfolio, I would start to throw chairs and pencils on DLP posters.

  5. T.Inniss Avatar
    T.Inniss

    David the blog has been posted twice.

  6. T.Inniss Avatar
    T.Inniss

    I will re-read a third time to see what hidden message I have missed.

  7. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    “The Fantastic Four”

    David “The Thing” Estwick should be ashamed of himself coming to the public talking shiite. Here is a man who severely criticize the former Finance Minister…… he admitted his party’s economic policies had failed to achieve the desired objectives and were responsible for Barbados’ current economic situation.

    He brought alternative economic policies and experienced difficulties in presenting them to his Cabinet colleagues……when he was finally given the opportunity to present his policies for review…. they were REJECTED.

    Yet he remained in the House and voted for those same failed DLP policies and did not do anything to help Barbadians, especially those that elected him to parliament.

    This man REMAINED SILENT on government economic policies…….he REMAINED SILENT during the recent water outages in St. Joseph and only spoke after a nudging by the then Opposition Leader …….he REMAINED SILENT on the new sugar factory……he REMAINED SILENT when the sewage was flowing on the south coast.

    “The Thing” has now FOUND his voice after a severe whipping at the polls.

    Stephen “The Human Torch” Lashley received a national award for “organizing” the failed CARIFESTA XIII Barbados, 2017. This man has not done anything for the youth and to enhance sport in Barbados.

    Sports journalists and those in the sporting fraternity can tell you of Lashley’s attitude. I note with interest many of these journalist expressed the view that they hope the new Sports Minister, John King, is WILLING to LISTEN to the stakeholders and work with them.

    Lashley, who was also the chief spokesman for the DLP during the 2018 election campaign, should be undergoing a self examination, rather than coming to the pubic with shiite at this time.

  8. John Avatar
    John

    They don’t need to come to the public apologizing because the BLP has gifted them the opportunity of coming to the public explaining the unconstitutionality of the House of Assembly!!!

    Life will move on as it always does.

    That there are people in the DLP that want locking up for stupidity among other things is absolutely true!!

    But the BLP has begun its stint at the public trough showing all need locking up … for stupidity alone!!

  9. David Avatar
    David

    The issue here is the lack of respect the DLP has for the public. Before commenting as a party it needs to have an intimate conversation with the public.

  10. sirfuzzy Avatar
    sirfuzzy

    The whole disaster is unfolding now. Canadian business banks which form the backbone of the local financial system, face billions of losses.

    I wonder who forced them to hold so many BB gov bonds which were trash long before the present PM declared default. FCIB is already considering to move its headquarters to another island.

    If I had CIBC shares in my portfolio, I would start to throw chairs and pencils on DLP posters.

    @Tron,

    If these loses are from the Barbados operations, then all the commercial banks operating here must be facing the same issue

    just may take

  11. David Avatar
    David

    Sirfuzzy

    Some would be in the deeper hole based on market share and or risk appetite over the years?

  12. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @David

    When was the Election date? A month hasn’t passed and they are still in search of a leader as Freundel seems to be in the Witness Protection Program since his mea culpa on election night. When the DLP elects a new leader, he/she should articulate the direction of the Party until then this blog is like all the newly discovered critics from both sides who are vocal on every damn thing.

  13. sirfuzzy Avatar
    sirfuzzy

    Some would be in the deeper hole based on market share and or risk appetite over the years?

    @BU

    You are correct, the international banks were already under pressure as they “considered de-risking” which was a political decision or policy that was placed on these bank from the HQ countries.. I guess some will go; but I am sure the ones that stay will just dominate the local banking sector, That too is something we must be wary of.

    Just maybe we need to consider the idea of a locally governed or national bank. We may need to allow the CU movement the opportunity to set up one as quickly as possible.

    Just my take

  14. David Avatar
    David

    @Sargeant

    Given the unprecedented result at the polls it requires and equal reaction by the party to signal it heard the message and is quickly reorganizing?

    Is it too much to ask?

  15. sirfuzzy Avatar
    sirfuzzy

    De-risking due to correspondent banking relationships.

  16. Gabriel Avatar
    Gabriel

    The kaisoman got it right.It is the asphalt.Never ever again will wunna ever get back pun wunna feet wunna dawgs.Go to hell,Gaul bline all o wuuna chocksutting bastids.Got the people in a bind dat Mia got to now clean up.But Mia got tings under control.Barbados is back in spite o wunna fulchers.Barbados spoke!! wunna miserable 4 pisspoor swine

  17. David Avatar
    David

    We have had this conversation on BU many times re the credit unions. The international banks have the advantage of mitigating risk by leveraging economies of scale. How will the CU authorized capital be funded? How will it generate revenues to cover cost given the state of the market? What is the status of the plan to establish a CU Bank by the league? They brought in consultants Sir Courtney and Justin Robinson a few years ago to give meat to the idea. Money down the drain?

  18. Gabriel Avatar
    Gabriel

    This is Grenville chance to replace the DLP.Grenville do your national duty and rise from the ashes of defeat and help the country by replacing the DLP as the serious opposition.

  19. sirfuzzy Avatar
    sirfuzzy

    @Sargeant

    Why are u in such a hurry. The DLP is not dead it will re-emerge when it is ready. If it emerges before its ready(force ripe) it will be exposed as such. Barbados’ democracy is in safe hands. Last time i checked Barbados constitution doesn’t recognise “political parties”. But it does encourage the right to assemble and associate.

    The constitution may need to be fine tuned in some areas when it comes to capturing the representation of the people. I for one would like the senate to be an elected body. With term limits and fixed election cycles. Maybe we need to end “first pass the post”?

    I have faith the DLP will re-emerge after their required introspection. My real fear is that UPP or SB will die a slow death. After 50 years of this experiment we call independence we may need to change the political formula. At some time in the near future we may need to “change” the administration not “exchange” the administration.

    We seem to forget that not all the talent in this island may be comfortable wearing a Blp Or Dlp label after their name. Both these major parties have plenty history that may repulse the new emerging electorate. The ten year old boy or girl today may not be too impressed with how the B/Dlp has run our island when they are in their 30’s etc, and may want to try the third or fourth option.

    Just my take

  20. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    These blp yardfowls reaction is in chorus with what is expected. However it befuddles my mind to think that the blp yardfowls have short memories forgetting have to sit in the wilderness for ten long years along having there past leader OSA rejection and fleeing the flock
    As now having luck on their side all wait and see how much better the blp can do to restruct the economy
    As for the Dlp they have not been giving a mandate to say yeah or nay

  21. FearPlay Avatar
    FearPlay

    Granville? Granville has his own party problems according to Barbados Today. Twelve disgruntled candidates are leaving because of the leaders alleged attempt at being a dictator by demanding a $1M penalty for members who want to leave the party.

  22. FearPlay Avatar
    FearPlay

    I have no doubt that the DLP will reemerge…..in 20 years time. That is the amount of time it will take to correct the wrongs they have wrought on this island. In 20 years time we will be profitable again, the economy will have recovered and we will be enjoying annual surpluses again and there will be no foreign exchange crisis, sooooo the people will at that time “give them a chance again”. This is twice that they have ruined our economy. Three times lucky?

  23. sirfuzzy Avatar
    sirfuzzy

    We have had this conversation on BU many times re the credit unions. The international banks have the advantage of mitigating risk by leveraging economies of scale. How will the CU authorized capital be funded? How will it generate revenues to cover cost given the state of the market? What is the status of the plan to establish a CU Bank by the league? They brought in consultants Sir Courtney and Justin Robinson a few years ago to give meat to the idea. Money down the drain?

    @BU. Globalisation, Concentration Capitalism and elections all have consequences. We make choices or choices are made for us; or we have rules to abide by once u are a member of the club; (unless you are a privileged member eg China US etc). I am in the camp that any economic model we adopt will come with a glass ceiling. We probably will not be allowed to “punch above our weight” again if the economic bullies get their way. The careful elimination of locally owned successful commercial banks by changing the rules of operation is very sad but it clears away much of the fog that has hidden these foreign overseers.

  24. David Avatar
    David

    It looks good in theory, the reality is that domestic banking owned by a credit union even will have to abide by regulatory constrained driven by external factors. Do not misunderstand the blogmaster, we want an indigenous institution to succeed .

  25. sirfuzzy Avatar
    sirfuzzy

    @FearPlay. You maybe correct or you maybe wrong. Time will tell as they say. But I love your confidence in knowing the future.

    Does your crystal ball tell u which person will be elevated or elected a s the new bishop in Barbados? LOL

  26. John Avatar
    John

    The issue here is the lack of respect the DLP has for the public. Before commenting as a party it needs to have an intimate conversation with the public.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The exact same thing can be said of the BLP!!

  27. sirfuzzy Avatar
    sirfuzzy

    @BU. I have heard the term “levelling the playing field”. Most of the time it gives the idea of that persons are allowed to compete and those that do a better jobs will succeed and reap the benefits of the hard work. That all are starting at the same place and are equally empowered to succeed.

    Today levelling the playing field must be seen in “construction jargon”. Literally wiping away all that is in your way with the heavy machines aka regulations. The small local bank by having to deal with the new international regulations cannot compete, there are at an disadvantage. So regulations that are seen as being impartial are a way of levelling the playing field.

  28. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    ” “Those like Sandals that get everything without consultation, . . . those who have to come to the Ministry of Tourism, and

    I believe every two weeks the Ministry of Tourism is taken up with having to push paper, which is nonsense, and then

    those who don’t even get anywhere near the Ministry of Tourism or anywhere near the concessions because their cash

    flow has been such that they had difficulties in being able to meet basic statutory requirements and as a result therefore

    they are precluded from being a beneficiary of any of those concessions,” Mottley explained.”

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2018/06/14/sandals-call/

  29. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    Canadian banks feel heat from Barbados debt default

    http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet/ArticleNews/story/GAM/20180608/RBSWCIBCBARBADOS

    How much longer before the leave?

  30. sirfuzzy Avatar
    sirfuzzy

    @ Hants.

    From the globeinvestor.com we see that the Canadian owned banks are not shy about disposing of their Caribbean assets.
    RBC sold its Jamaica operations to the sagicor group back n 2014.

    Let see what the FIBC and RBC and Scotia have to say about their operations in Barbados. We know over the last few years and months all of them have seen closing branches via consolidation etc. .

    They have introduced new features and fees and regulations at the retail banking side that points me to believe that they will be further reductions of operations and real estate footprint across the island. I do hope this “selective default” is not a bridge to far for any of them.

    Just my take

  31. Bernard Codrington Avatar
    Bernard Codrington

    Going forward the GoB has to be careful about the competence of their advisors. The latter have to understand the structure and functioning of the local financial system. They also need to monitor the international economic and financial environment in which Barbados has to operate.

  32. Bernard Codrington Avatar
    Bernard Codrington

    But let us wait and see how things unfurl. Some times we learn better from mistakes.

  33. Watchman Avatar
    Watchman

    @ T.Iniss

    You need $$$$ signs to find a message in any discussion

  34. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @The Blogmaster, your remarks appear to have dropped from Mars…no connection to the reality of Bdos for the last months specially or of the overall tenure of the DLP.

    Why do we as Bajans need ” to know … how does the DLP plan to organize itself to be relevant [as a] strong opposition [to] safeguard the interest of Barbadians.”

    They never told us how they decided to award national recognition to a Minister simply for completing his mandated duties (what exceptional reward did his work accrue to Bdos) among much other silence so why do we need to hear from them now on internal org matters? WHY exactly?

    Are these not the SAME party operators that allegedly enriched themselves with blatant conflict of interest schemes and contracts?… The SAME crew that awarded unethical multi year services contracts even as they conspired to dissolve the people’s parliament to avoid scrutiny.

    What great positive, well meaning plans should we expect from them now in opposition? Pray advise!

    How in the name of all that’s reasonable and just can we even consider that the DLP actually still HAS “respect” for Bajans?…Which Bajans…the ones they see as bribe worthy vote sellers…or the ones they deigned not to speak to honestly for most of their ten years? Which ones?

    So respectfully, how can they NOW attempt to have “an intimate conversation with the public”. WHY now? What about five or eight months ago or even one year ago?

    Yes Mr Blogmaster you are surely asking way too much! Way, way too much!

    But this utter destruction is frankly only fitting following the revelations about the man from Waterford U.

    We cannot and SHOULD not expect anything from the DLP…”[g]iven the unprecedented result at the polls” other than to reorganize COMPLETELY. Period. Full Stop. That’s it.

    We would have to be real ole time Bajan “cock-rats” to embrace them again before that is done.

    Just saying, bro!

  35. bajanfreeparty Avatar
    bajanfreeparty

    DLP Comfortable in the Political Wilderness? Well, they have all the duty free things they ever wanted, cars homes boats, guns, drugs, money from all the vat, taxes, , pay off, all crooks living happily in Bigger homes than ever as the people cant get water or toilets, massive land fraud, and Ponzi paid off well, some even die to make all this happen , crook promote crooks, only two top crooks not in the BBLP government is Sir COW and Sir David all other are in the nest , Alex Mitchell BFP/CUP

  36. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    The DLP is no longer the government.

    The members of the DLP can talk all day every day because Barbados is still a democratic country

    and until that changes we have the freedom to talk and write sheet ad nauseum.

    The Barbados Labour Party is the ruling party in Barbados having won an absolute majority 30 – 0.

    The Barbados Labour Party will be the ruling party in Barbados indefinitely. They have a glorious opportunity

    to fulfill ALL their campaign promises and rescue Barbados and rebuild from hurricane DLP.

    Remember what Prime Minister Mia Mottley said ““Give me de vote and watch muh!”

  37. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    Barbados named Caribbean Luxury Destination of 2017

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/167151/barbados-named-caribbean-luxury-destination-2017

  38. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    These dems have a nerve, though!

    They are a bunch of shameless morons. They are still shell shocked from the shellacking they got.
    A total redwash.

    I really think that they need to do a total introspection and wheel and come again. Go underground for at least five years as what is coming out from the various ministers dont show them in any great light.

    They were so wutless and seemingly encouraged their cronies to rape the treasury as if it was their personal piggy bank. Does anyone remember how the Brek Up Dem and ac used to rant and rage that they do not want the BLP to get their hands back on the treasury?………..Well, now we know why……..as it seems as if they allowed their cronies to take how ever much they wanted.

    Imagine Richard Byer up front putting in an invoice for $750,000 when under a BLP administration a lawyer charged $30,000.

    How about Mr LEC himself submitting an invoice for 1.5 million?

    How about the man who decimated the Police Force with his $300,000 consultancy?

    How about a man being paid $20,000 for two weeks work?

    How about the latest…..a man who is a close friend of St Michael South putting in an invoice for 5.8 million and then settling for $700,000? …….this same man as well as a former AG’s son have been raking in huge fees.

    How about the former speaker who raked in three quarter million for looking over sale documents for a building at Newton?

    ……..and Sandi asked how we got back here?………look no further than the lying members of the DLP.

    I would like to know why Permanent Secretaries allowed the accounting officers to write these huge cheques………….we need accountability.

  39. David Avatar
    David

    @Prodigal Son

    Call them out, do you mean Michael Yearwood and Adrian King?

  40. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    Barbados Today has a headline of an Avanash Persaud speech titled” No more business as Usual” in which he warns the Banks that they must change the way they operate.

    I can’t help but think that they are too many cooks in the Financial kitchen of Barbados, in addition to the PM, there are two Ministers Caddle and Straughn, an Ambassador Mascoll and Persaud (of indeterminate position). There is also an outside agency advising the Gov’t on how to handle its debt obligations, with all these people in the stew it is not going to be appetizing.

  41. Gabriel Avatar
    Gabriel

    These teefing lawyers got their training in Trinidad when they did their LEC there.One only need read the Express to see how the UNC lawyers fleeced the Trinidad Treasury during the Persad Bissesar regime, kicked out two years ago for the same wastage and corruption.That Clico hearing and a host of other cases would have given the Barbados crows the idea to do the same thing here.Millions of dollars in fees were billed.Difference is that Trinidad has a Freedom of Information Act and this information cannot be concealed for long.
    That public servants approved this wastage of taxpayers money should give Joseph Atherley some work to do.Haul their asses before the PAC and let them explain.

  42. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    “However it befuddles my mind to think that the blp yardfowls have short memories forgetting have to sit in the wilderness for ten long years along having there (their) past leader OSA rejection and fleeing the flock……”

    Mariposa

    Yuh see why I duz tell you to let someone in George Street proof read your contributions before posting them?

    You are comparing two situations that are completely different.

    Yes, the BLP had “to sit in the wilderness for ten long years,” but the BIG DIFFERENCE is they SAT in Parliament……

    …………..not OUTSIDE Parliament, as is the case with the DLP……having not gained at least ONE seat in the May 24, 2018 general elections. Well…….the Governor General made sure there are a few DEMS in the senate.

    Owen Arthur and Maria Agard left the BLP, with both of them continually attacking Mottley. Arthur called her a “despot” and “megalomania,” while Agard referred to her as a “demon in white.”

    However, what you should concern yourself with is the fact that the DLP’s performance during the past 10 years was so ABYSMAL that the electorate voted against DEM. And mind you, the DLP began to lose popularity coming on to the end of their first term. Hence, the 16-14 result of the 2013 general elections.

    As for Owen Arthur, over the years he has lost the respect of many Barbadians………to the point that anyone hardly ever mentions him.

  43. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    David BU

    While reading comments on the topic “Local Media Dithered As Sewage Plants Entered Failure Mode,” I noticed Ping Pong posted photos of a Clarifier filled with sludge and grass.

    I believe this topic would be ideal for those photos to be posted…… let Estwick team up with the other members of the “Fantastic Four” and explain that situation.

  44. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    Am I the only one appalled a the poverty of politics generally, and the mess the DLP is in in particular? Having just been rejected by the electorate and forced more likely and rightly to be kept out of government for at least a generation, it is a bad joke for some of the same inepts that led the DLP to electoral disaster are now setting themselves up as critics of the new government.
    Where is the next generation of DLP leaders? Who are the Young Turks in the DLP stepping up to set the new agenda for their party? Where are the DLP members and supporters explaining, from the inside, the electoral disaster that just whipped out the parliamentary party?
    The poverty of politics; the poverty of ideas; the lack of vision is like an infectious disease.

  45. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    Yes David……….these two non entities for lawyers prior to 2008 are now multi millionaires off of the backs of the poor taxpayers of Barbados ……….and to think that these four morons who sat in Parliament and said yes to every new tax that Chris Sinckler imposed on us now have to gall to be now questioning the corrective measures PM MAM had to impose.

    This all gets me so mad…..Barbados did not have to be in this position….never!

  46. David Avatar
    David

    @Artax

    Ping Pong requested BU to post the pictures which have been widely distributed on social media.

    src=”https://barbadosunderground.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/picture-7.jpg” alt=”” width=”860″ height=”778″ />

  47. John Avatar
    John

    Great to see the change at the Bridgetown Sewage Plant

    I suspect its built in redundant capacity will become available and some of the sewage being sent to Graeme Hall can be processed in Bridgetown instead and then sent to Needham’s Point without having to bubble up along Highway 7.

    It won’t solve the problem but it could reduce it.

    Now if someone can remember why the tank was abandoned it might be worthwhile because more than likely there was a sound technical reason and that is what needs to be solved.

    Cleaning the tank is only a part of getting it back into use and impacting the problem we face.

  48. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    I started writing on this article a 1/2 hour ago but, because of the defensiveness of this VPN tool de grandson tell me to use, it wiped the submission after my inactivity.

    Just goes to show you too far east is west

    I was responding to Mr. Bernard Codrington and his very focused comment at 10.19 and i also noted that he had wisely ignored the non entity and deceased DLP

    I will summarise what i had written then so not to be prolix.

    MAM needed breathing space so she did this default.

    2.She was not advised wisely as to how to do a de facto default WHILE NOT TRIGGERING THE INTERNATIONAL ALARMS because none of her advisers have worked with sovereign bonds and DO NOT UNDERSTAND their administrative mechanisms and loopholes that permit her that breathing space.

    These are not like car loans and they provide the latitude for her to have negotiated and not triggered the Bond downgrade

    3.That point about advisors features highly, YET SUBTLY, in Mr Codrington’s article. He is a diplomat who is capable of calling a man or woman, a blasted fool to their face but not saying so in words.

    All of which again underscores what the ole man is repeating IN PLAIN ENGLISH about what is evidently lacking in the MAM third tier – practical experience.

    4.One can only hope that MAM SEES that these persons who have sought to bind themselves to her skirt tails inder of an “otiose ilk” (whuloss de ole man finally get to use dat word instead of “Otto owes” whuloss…The Luminary and the The Sage would be proud of me)

    But let de know-it-all ole man go back here and see whu de grandson doing wid he Stoopid Cartoons dem

  49. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    Instead of running his mouth as usual to bellow and talk BS, David Estwick should explain this sorry state of affairs under his watch.

    What the hell were we paying these ministers for?

    They should be charged for dereliction of duties!

  50. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    But should the workers and managers down at this plant bear some responsibility for this sorry state of affairs?

    Where was the leadership?

    No wonder our country was left in such a state of disrepair!

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