David Estwick, Minister responsible for the Barbados Water Authorty
The problem of sewage running on the street of the South Coast is so serious BU shares a public service recording produced by the Barbados Water Authority which attempts to explains the challenge.
I enjoyed the discussion on the Baobab trees in Barbados.
Made me think and search for answers to questions I never asked myself before.
One thing I realized is that the one at Warrens is probably tapped into an underground stream or streams which bring water from parts of St. Thomas, St. Joseph, St. John and St. George to the Sheet Water area under the Belle and Codrington pumping stations.
The heavy “development” in the Warrens area bodes ill for water quality from these prime water pumping stations.
If you think the sewage problems on the South Coast are huge, don’t be surprised if issues at the Belle and Codrington arise suddenly and put them into the shade.
… uncontrolled “development”!!
The takeaway is that the plant is so compromised that a new treatment plant will have to be constructed. The GM is placing the blame on unnamed commercial entities that are dumping “rags” in the pipeline which coupled with drain water has overwhelmed the system.
Does anyone know the specs for this system? They will need a bigger pipe.
@ Sargeant,
There is an immediate problem for which there must be a solution.
It will take months to build a new plant.
Barbados has Professional Engineers and BWA workmen who can provide an emergency short term solution.
No need to wait for an outbreak of a deadly disease to beg the INTERNATIONAL AID DONORS for help.
Does anyone know if the sprawling Sandals project is hooked up to the sewage system?
Hants
Ask who for help?………….did not Barbados vote against the US and the “powful” foolish minister bragged about her decision?
The US said they will remember people’s votes……….so they better not go begging the US for help.
Prodigal Son January 3, 2018 at 10:27 PM #
Does anyone know if the sprawling Sandals project is hooked up to the sewage system?
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The sewage line goes as far as Oistins if I remember right.
So the Sandals project should be attached to that line other wise it goes in the sea which is supposed to be a no no!!
There is a benefit the other side to Bridgetown does not get.
Gravity assists.
From Top Rock Service Station to the Sewage Plant in Harmony Hall …. another Quaker name … it is down hill.
Suction!!
Not as much pressure on the lift stations.
On the other side coming from Bridgetown it is relatively flat and the load is heavier … more hotels … and more problems.
… plus there is a slight hill to climb by Bert’s Bar.
It appears as if the eastern half to Oistins works ok.
https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2018/01/03/health-scare-2/
Murphy like he stirring!!
@Hants
According to the GM (and I am giving him the benefit of the doubt) they are trying a “workaround” but they are running into other issues. I realize the urgency of getting to a solution but based on his comments they will need a new plant eventually.
How the hell are “rags” getting into the sewage? Are these “rags” in the general terminology of the day or are these some other type of material?
It is difficult not to consider the possibility of sabotage when you see what is coming out of the system.
Remember a while back the BWA was complaining about people interfering with manhole covers.
“Rags?”
Are people flushing their bed linen, and/or clothing down the toilet?
And if so why?
John
It stands to reason then that it is Sandals who has caused this or added to this problem……..Sandals have added hundreds of rooms.
Just imagine after giving Sandals a washpan of concessions, this government is going to have to bear the cost of correcting the system.
Hignorance to the highest degree.
I am not even sure if Sandals is open as yet …. anyone know?
Last time I passed, months ago I decided to avoid that part of Barbados.
It was totally disappointing to see the destruction of the old graveyard in the corner and just I tried to avoid the sheer lunacy.
Mr. Waithe’s shop still brings back memories.
I used to live in Maxwell Coast Road, till I was 9.
I can’t bring myself to return to the mayhem that exists there.
It is a different world to me now on which I have turned my back.
Will probably go sometime and see what sort of mess they have made.
The black elite and their white donors cannot even handle shit properly. Imagine what would have happened if we had built the doomsday machine called “Cahill”. It would have been exploded after one month due to a lack of maintainance.
Nice to read sensible comments on here – especially Prodigal Son. Nothing like pissing off the very people you are going to go cap in hand to in extremis. Politicians are very good at vainglorious grandstanding, pandering to the baser instincts, and of course lining their own pockets all the while, but not so good about giving a toss for the legitimate interests or concerns of those they are elected to represent.
I wonder if Well Well I Am Full O’Shite has a suggestion, as the expert in ordure?
So it was true, there is a gastro outbreak on the South Coast that government is trying to cover up, the sewage spill is so ba, people who can afford to will have to leave their homes…and they got Kenneth George lying about the restaurant, just a matter pf time now, they got dead fish in the area, just a matter of time.
https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2018/01/03/health-scare-2/
“Health scare
Close to a dozen residents come down with Gastro on south coast
Added by Emmanuel Joseph on January 3, 2018.
Saved under Health Care, Local News
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Health authorities say they have found nothing so far linking a Christmas Day outbreak of gastroenteritis at some business establishments on the south coast and the ongoing sewage mess.
Acting Chief Medical Officer Dr Kenneth George told Barbados TODAY this evening that after the ten cases were reported, a team from the Ministry of Health, including environmental health officers and officials of the epidemiological department, started investigations on December 30 and found no evidence that the long-running sewage problem was responsible for the outbreak.
“We have found no bacterial or viral contamination in the establishments across the south coast,” said Dr George, who explained that the teams had carried out an environmental health assessment of food kitchens in the area.
Dozens of dead fish have been seen floating in a swamp at a commercial and residential facility at Perone Village, Worthing, Christ Church, which has been affected by the recent sewage spills. Inset, Acting Chief Medical Officer Dr Kenneth George.
The senior health official said the teams went to the various proprietors and food establishments to determine the source of the gastro, which is caused by contaminated food or water.
“There is a process for this. It involves interviewing persons who were affected. It involves taking samples and it also involves paying scrupulous attention to harm prevention and control strategies at food establishments. The laboratories have been assisting us,” he stressed, adding that the ministry would continue to update the public on developments.
However, despite the absence of a direct link, Dr George said the ministry established several guidelines which the outlets must follow in the preparation, storage and delivery of food on the south coast.”
I see the trumpturds are unsettled, pity they can’t put handcuffs on them too.
45fraudster…that obsession you got with me without just cause is very unhealthy, it serves no useful purpose, does not contribute to helping anyone and really damaging…for you.
The fish are dying, just a matter of time before the bacteria climbs up the food chain in a more direct manner than gastro.
Yall bottom feeders are idiots, the US should not fart on the government anyway re a new sewage plant, they had 10 years to maintain this now leaking one and find solutions using the money they certainly had to build a brand new one, ten years and money they wasted on crap, including building a demonic pitchfork to satan on the garrision.
Yall weak ass, balless wonders like to depend on others too much…Barbados got engineers and builders…ya would still have to pay to build a new plant….
,,,…the first sign of trouble which the government is responsible for and the weakest red negros and others in the society want to go begging colonists, have yall no shame or self respect, stand on your own two feet as real men for once.
How ya like that solution ya bottom sucking weaklings.
The US has its own problems, no one wants to deal with idiots and their selfmade sewage problems with shit in the streets in the Caribbean, voting to help kill Palestinians would not have made a difference you miscreants.
its like a gastro outbreak on a ship and the owners need to keep the money coming in so they will make any excuse how this is a one off or the people boarded the ship with it. Shit has been in the street for months on tires on shoes in the air to say that this gastro outbreak has nothing to do with the backup is laughable and defies logic.
Like the portait of dorion gray, WW has a picture of maxine watters in her attic ….Alas WW thats not a portrait thats a mirror , history will tell about trump but after he replaces kennedy and ginsberg on the supreme court we can breathe easy for a couple of generations.
Lawson…ya have not heard the latest obviously, but the day is yet young, stay tuned and clutch that chest…it has all just turned real….lol
@ Sargeant January 3, 2018 at 11:30 PM #
“How the hell are “rags” getting into the sewage? Are these “rags” in the general terminology of the day or are these some other type of material?”
Come on Sarge, you are an ‘officer’ commissioned with ‘Commonsense’. So don’t get ‘wrap-up’ in those lying excuses.
These people have been coming up with all sorts of excuses from the inception of the leaking shit.
From vandals tampering with the manhole covers to too much rain to faulty construction under the previous administration to BLP operatives sabotaging the lines to make the current administration look incompetent in order to win the upcoming elections.
Can’t you see they are even looking for a scapegoat for the inevitable outbreak of gastroenteritis? Don’t be surprised if some anonymous ‘visitor’ from some other island ’is ‘fingered’ as the likely culprit.
If it was a case of rags getting into the system then why the long talk about taking a very long time to correct the problem or the building of a new plant.
Why not get some ‘highly-paid’ sewer monkeys to remove the rags and monitor the equipment of those hooked to the system with severe penalties for those in breach of the regulations like those tampering with the BL&P equipment?
It’s a massive structural problem involving broken lines due to poor construction and inferior quality of equipment used in the first place in ‘outfitting’ the distribution system.
miller rags:: a lot of this stuff is hygene products and diapers etc I worked in a treatment plant years ago and they had one machine specific to remove all this stuff before it went through the pumps. Years ago in the gap I was amazed at how small the new sanitary pipes that were being installed as part of an upgrade having worked in the trenches installing sewer and watermains they seemed tiny, Our flood waters are not in the same sewers as our sanitary lines
What they are saying is the strainers in the system do not have the capacity to collect the âragsâ. Too much rags in there!
As at today the manholes continue to piss the sewage, conclusion- no solution!
Prodigal Son January 4, 2018 at 12:01 AM “this government is going to have to bear the cost of correcting the system.”
Not the government.
Us.
Us the taxpayers.
@ John January 3, 2018 at 10:59 PM #
“The sewage line goes as far as Oistins if I remember right.
So the Sandals project should be attached to that line other wise it goes in the sea which is supposed to be a no no!!”
Yes, the line goes as far as Oistins. And this is the highly probable next location for the sewage problem to flare up.
The toilet and liquid waste disposal facilities are woefully inadequate given the number of food-selling businesses and level of human traffic in the area.
The authorities have been warned over and over about the need to improve the general sanitation and washroom facility at the Bay Gardens but to no avail.
What will it take to kill off that foreign exchange cash cow whose earnings go straight into the local economy with the attendant multiplier effects?
An outbreak of food poisoning among the hundreds of visitors who spend thousands partaking in the local culinary fare?
Our children, and grandchildren.
When this set of cabinet Ministers are all dead, dead, dead.
Our grandchildren and great children will still be paying for this shite.
I have previously spoken about the gross incompetence of Barbadian public servants, and this sewage proem is a classic example.
The keyboard warriors on the blog all see it in party political terms; yet, here is a serious public health issue and absent from the discussion is the public health officer; the doctors’ association; the environmental health officers; the business community; the cabal of idiots holding political office.
A group of people all with enough PhDs to sink a ship, yet they cannot solve what is a minor public health problem. It is a problem that has been around since Sandiford.
This is linear thinking, the one-dimensionality of thought, what fools mistakingly call linear thinking when faced with critical reasoning.
We continue to go round and round in circles because we cannot breakout of our mental prisons.
@lawson January 4, 2018 at 7:49 AM “miller rags:: a lot of this stuff is hygene products and diapers etc.”
Babies need diapers.
Girls and women need sanitary napkins.
Some elderly people need diapers–once a man twice a child kinda thing.
Question: Does the Barbados Water Authority conduct an ongoing, in your face public education to tell people what should and should not go into the sewer system? If BWA has been doing so i have NEVER seen any evidence of it.
I’ve raised several children to adulthood, and I’ve NEVER, NEVER put a diaper down a toilet. Let me be explicit. I was instructed to dump the jobby from the diaper into the toilet, then to fold the diaper shit side in and pull the sticky tape to close the residual mess, then put in the dustbin, and from there it goes to a tightly covered outside bin, then to the landfill. Has the Barbados Water Authority been teaching new parents how to do this? If so I have NEVER seen any evidence of it.
I have had 42 years on menstrual periods and I have NEVER, NEVER put a sanitary napkin down a toilet. The sanitary napkin is rolled, bloody side in, wrapped in the piece of plastic in which it came, then over wrapped in a piece of toilet paper. Then it goes in the bathroom bin, and at the end of the day into a tightly covered outside bin and fronm there to the landfill. Has the Barbados Water Authority been teaching young girls and women how to do this? If so I have NEVER seen any evidence of it.
I have looked after 3 elders who needed diapers and bed pads, the same process is used as for children’s diapers. Has the Barbados Water Authority been teaching those who care for elders how to do this? If so I have NEVER seen any evidence of it.
But we are a bunch of poor great poppets who can’t talk about shit, piss, and menstrual blood. even when we have shit, piss and menstrual blood running in the streets.
@Simple Simon
It is a matter of public record, the damn plant was not adequately maintained. Part of maintenance is continuous education. Those engineers that worked with the setup appears not to have been consulted by this lot,; Dr. Hugh Sealy comes to mind. Did you listen to Grenville on the talk show yesterday? He is of the view the country made an error when NISE was rolled out instead of ISO9001.
Needless to say that a lack of vision is the real cause of this problem. How could not the technical engineers oinvolved in the design and technical aspect of the plant not informed the govt bureaucrats about potential problems over time that would lead to a failure ir collaspse of the plant because of his inabilty to handle large volume as the area expands in population growth.
The GM has now openly stated the obvious the plant is inefficient to handle the volume and is overwhelmed by
indifference and usage
The question therfore when this plant was being built how come engineers and the designers did not pinpoint these potential problems to govt officials involved in the initial plans
My thought on this would be that knowing how politicians see self interest first no matter what kind of information given to the beuarracy concerning potential dangers nothing would have haulted the building of the plant and any information given would have fell on deaf years.
So here we are twelve years later back to square one trying to solve a problem because of lack of vision
@ Dr. Simple “Riff-Raff” Simon fake Phd.and all January 4, 2018 at 8:40 AM #
R-R, this is on piece of unsanitary shit you cannot blame Bajan men for!
It is a matter of public record, the damn plant was not adequately maintained. Part of maintenance is continuous education. Those engineers that worked with the setup appears not to have been consulted by this lot,….(quote)
Nonsense. Good record keeping would have flagged up the need for constant maintenance, it is elementary. It has nothing to do with education, if defined in the conventional sense, but with organisational memory. You do not wait until something happens then to go in. Good engineering is about taking precautionary action.
As to the equal nonsense that previous engineers seemed not to have ben consulted, what if they had died?
The problem is one for the people currently in charge and they have proved grossly incompetent. No excuses. Bajans must put their hands up when they fall down on the job.
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“My thought on this would be that knowing how politicians see self interest first no matter what kind of information given to the beuarracy (BUREAUCRACY) concerning potential dangers nothing would have haulted (HALTED) the building of the plant and any information given would have fell (FALLEN) on deaf years. So here we are twelve years later back to square one trying to solve a problem because of lack of vision.”
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Wow……….. confession is good for the soul.
It is good to see you have finally come to terms with reality and placed the blame at the feet of your DLP for their lack of vision at the time of conceptualizing the plant……
………….and that the “technical engineers involved in the design and technical aspect of the plant,” “did not pinpoint these potential problems to govt officials involved in the initial plans” and include them in the environmental impact assessment (EIA), which was prepared sometime during 1991.
It’s also a change from your usual one sided arguments that you acknowledged the fact that a LACK of an EFFICIENT and EFFECTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM “spans” both BLP & DLP administrations.
However, if one takes into consideration the time of the plant’s conceptualization, construction and now, the time period of “twelve years later” is incorrect…………it is in fact 27 years later.
@ David who wrote ” the damn plant was not adequately maintained. ”
You have stated the obvious.
It no longer matters who effed up. This problem could get worse. Spinning will not solve the problem.
“Health scare
Close to a dozen residents come down with Gastro on south coast”
https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2018/01/03/health-scare-2/
of course the idiots would put sucking up to tourists well ahead of maintaining their shitfilled sewage pipes and plant until they explode all over the streets..
but tourists have many other destinations to choose from so let them continue with their shit show and the blame game and see if the tourists care.
What are the significant differences between “Part of maintenance is continuous education,”…………
…………. and “Good record keeping would have flagged up the need for constant maintenance?”
Or, as usual, you’re just trying to be difficult by “nit picking” to present a “shiite argument?”
Are not “good record keeping” and “consulting previous engineers” part of the continuous education process?
Why would an engineer consult a previous engineer…… if not to learn pertinent information from that individual?
As with everything that requires maintenance……. for example, computers & associated peripherals, vehicles, equipment, the sewage plant and even human beings……..over time the variables involved change, requiring computer engineers, mechanics, engineers and doctors to remain abreast with changes in technology and maintenance that occur from time to time……..
…………through continuous assessments, “good record keeping,” “not waiting until something happens then to go in,” “taking precautionary action” and “consulting previous engineers,” which could be reasonably included in the process of “continuous education.”
Why do you bother Artax. He likes to nitpick instead of trying to understand what is being communicated.
Perhaps it is his way of either trying remain relevant or demonstrating that while everyone writes shiite, he alone has a “supreme knowledge” of everything.
After all……..yuh kant kill a fella fuh liking and promoting he-self.
A poorly designed plant and flawed system which has out lived its purpose in capacity to service an expanded population and industrialized area
The general manager of the BWA points out in the press conference that the plant is being abused by some. He and Inniss also agreed before the press conference that the BWA has not done a good job with maintenance and responding to demand. This is the same BWA that accused others of sabotaging the manhole covers. Of course the yard fowls ran with that explanation at the time. Subsequently the then acting general manager was removed:
Continue to politicize the matter. We have shit running on the street that needs fixing.
Yes agree that that indifference by public is also a cause. However the GM stated that it would be better to build a new plant. If that plant was worth the time and cost being given to guarantee long term service with proper maintenance the GM would never have recommended a new plant.
This system was not built to service such large volumes and bulk debris from industrail area hence the reccomendation for a new plant which can tolerate large volumes and tackle debris which the GM alluded as problematic
The GM is not an engineer, his background is selling cellphones and before that he was a bank branch manager. Grenville called the program yesterday and was very clear to articulate what should be happening towards a solution.
I don’t know why some would politicize this unhealthy situation where people have to drive or trek through sewage on the streets and which forced some businesses to close as a result.
Successive BLP & DLP administrations have not found it necessary to implement efficient and effective maintenance programs to adequately maintain government resources.
This is evident by the number of “broken-down” state-owned vehicles awaiting to be repaired or discarded……. that can be seen laying idle at the Ministry of Health compound in Jemmott’s Lane; ambulances on an adjacent compound; old or damaged police vehicles at Central & District A Police Stations; Transport Board buses at Weymouth Headquarters or Mangrove Depot; tractors, trucks and other equipment at MTW depot in the Pine;
…………..then you have derelict buildings such as the “Old Eye Hospital” on Bay Street that once housed the National Assistance Board and Welfare Department; the old Welfare Department building in Country Road, old buildings at Jemmotts Lane, Garrison, Culloden Farm; the National Insurance building in Fairchild Street; old BWA offices in the Pine;
…………….Roebuck Secondary School compound; the recently closed Alama Parris School in Speightstown, St. Peter and several primary school buildings located across the island, which were closed as a result of amalgamation of schools.
A section of Culloden Farm, for example, was renovated to accommodate the National Assistance Board offices. That building has now been abandoned and NAB is RENTING a building and office space re Murrell House, Country Road………. at the unnecessary expense of taxpayers.
Some of these derelict buildings could be repaired, used to accommodate government offices, while implementing a maintenance program………… which would prove to be economically feasible in the long term.
That plant was built off the blood and sweat of taxpayers money. Heads should roll and questions by media outlets should be fast and swift to the bureaucrats regarding the specifications of the design of the plant and why after ten years the plant inabilty to service has collapsed under the weight of volume
We have shit running on the street that needs fixing.
Soon there will be more shit as disease spreads.
This is fuqqin disaster.
@hants
If one could discern a level of urgency on the street like frequent washdowns, condoning off of shitty areas etc it would make for PR at minimum.
just a question the stretch from hastings to bridgetown what direction do the sewage lines go. It must change since water runs down hill you would think it would be flooding at the yacht club area not hastings
Maybe the Government is planning a mass colorectal screening clinic after the outbreak of
shit diseases.
@ ac January 4, 2018 at 11:42 AM #
Do you know what maintenance is? A sewage plant is not a silver Mercedes E class which the ruling elite drives until it breaks down. Ask your masters COW and Bizzy how to run a facility.
Do you still think that Cahill was a good idea? Imagine these clueless and light-minded local lads were in charge of maintaining it. We had an explosion with lots of dioxin just after one month.
In 1858, an act of Parliament authorized the development of a sewer system designed by Joseph Bazalgett, who was a civil engineer and chief engineer for the water works in London at the time. Bazalgette’s project was completed in 1870 and is still in use; (obviously with necessary improvements from time to time).
And here we are……….. behaving as though the only reasonable or feasible solutions to the South Coast sewage plant……. which was built in the 1990s……….
…………is to build a new plant…….. only for politicians to find some other reason to build a new plant in 2028.
If the mercedes was not properly fitted with correct parts all the maintenance in the world would not correct the flawed design.
Have you ever heard of cars being recalled because mainteance could not correct the problem.That is call a manufactures defect or flaw that began with poor design or poor procedure
You are really a JA. Not even the government is blaming the Opposition yet you who is clueless about the issue continue to harp about defective plant. All agree the plant was not designed to handle the current load, also to handle runoff, Dr. Hugh Sealy says so. The DLP government has held the office of government for nine years years and what has it done? Even Mia has come public to say she quietly requested a meeting with the PM to discuss and he refused.
JA
Yuh can cuss me all u want. My point remain as to intial design and methodogly and the technical aspect of the plant resulted in its ability to handleclarge volume.
The vision or lack therof lead to a total collapse of the plant.
And the point your hard head will never comprehend is that the DLP was voted in to fix the problems and did NOTHING about it since gaining office.
lawson January 4, 2018 at 11:49 AM #
just a question the stretch from hastings to bridgetown what direction do the sewage lines go. It must change since water runs down hill you would think it would be flooding at the yacht club area not hastings
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From what I see, I think it goes like this like this.
Two main input lines bringing sewage from the eastern and western extremes, Oistins and Bridgetown to the treatment plant
One output line from the treatment plant to Hilton and then to the sea.
The main input lines will have feeders eg Amity Lodge (??) to Highway 7. there is a low point by Big B.
There is a problem with sections of the input line from Bridgetown to the plant.
The section between Sandy Beach and the Stream has been bypassed … pump at Sandy Beach … and delivered directly to the swamp.
Not sure if that is the output line or the input line but given the debris, it is the input line.
If that is the case all of the raw sewage from Bridgetown to the plant is going into the swamp, minus any debris filtered by the pump at Sandy Beach.
There is a problem with the output line.
There is a problem with the plant.
Given my interpretation of the bypass is correct the plant is only receiving sewage from the Oistins line!!
I am going by what I observe.
Why do you bother Artax. He likes to nitpick instead of trying to understand what is being communicated. (quote)
It is not nitpicking, you silly man, it is deconstruction, close analysis instead of accepting nonsense from people with PHds.
Here is another example of humiliating deference: …………………. . All agree the plant was not designed to handle the current load, also to handle runoff, Dr. Hugh Sealy says so. (quote)
So who is “All”, this is a ridiculous claim. And, even more ridiculous, it is so because Dr Hugh Sealy says so.
Pls go away and learn to think and stop behaving like an angry schoolboy. I am not a civil or structural engineer, but common sense tells me that before undertaking a major project they would have done a cost/benefit analysis: what would it cost? What would be the mass and type of sewage it would expect to carry now, in five years time, in 20 years time and in 40 years time? This, of course, would depend on the catchment area (residential, commercial and beach overflow).
The providers of the equipment would recommend the necessary maintenance procedure, which would be part of the contract after this the maintenance team would claim ownership of keeping the equipment running. Regular team meetings would give a constant update and keep senior executives informed.
People must ask questions of the technocrats, not just accept because they have a PhD that what they say is gospel; that is the thinking of a braindead person who dreams about getting similar qualifications and, with them, assuming a position of social important.
One minute we are told people with the right heritage should b leaders – because they were raised in homes with lots of books and important people coming to lunch.
Grow up. Some of us are not looking for social status in Barbados. You call it nitpicking, I call it interrogating the evidence.
@ac January 4, 2018 at 9:08 AM “when this plant was being built how come engineers and the designers did not pinpoint these potential problems to govt officials involved in the initial plans.”
Engineers have to tell government officials about sanitary napkins and diapers? What next do we have to teach our officials? That they must look both ways before they cross the road?
Stupseee!!!
@millertheanunnaki January 4, 2018 at 9:09 AM @ Dr. Simple “Riff-Raff” Simon fake Phd.and all January 4, 2018 at 8:40 AM “R-R, this is on piece of unsanitary shit you cannot blame Bajan men for!”
Stupseee!!!
Stop being idiotic.
One of my elders who needed diapers and bed pads was male.
How did I know?
i changed his diapers.
There is a second aspect of the system that needs to be borne in mind.
The two input and one output pipes run in 5 foot concrete tunnels.
These tunnels sound as though they have been breached in listening to the minister.
So the Sheet Water surrounding them can get in.
Possibly as tides and swamp levels vary, the manholes weep.
I think that is part of the process happening at Big B.
A competent engineer would have advised the bureaucracy of all possibilities that could lead to breaches. However i am more convinced that political interest and interference could have outweighed the necessity and cost of building a more efficient plant hence a process of risk taking was the alternative procedure.
@ Dr. Simple “Riff-Raff” Simon fake Phd.and all January 4, 2018 at 12:48 PM #
“Stop being idiotic.
One of my elders who needed diapers and bed pads was male.
How did I know?
i changed his diapers.”
Simple, it’s not a case of being idiotic but being realistic.
We are not talking about the wearing of diapers like boy babies do but those who are most likely to carelessly dispose of them ;both from the young and the old, male and female.
Culturally and statistically, it must be women doing the careless disposal, not so?
Unless you, Riff-Raff, is not only a fake doctor but also a mock man.
@millertheanunnaki January 4, 2018 at 9:09 AM @ Dr. Simple “Riff-Raff” Simon fake Phd.and all January 4, 2018 at 8:40 AM “R-R, this is on piece of unsanitary shit you cannot blame Bajan men for!”
Are you telling me that Bajan men NEVER change the diapers of their children or of their elderly parents?
If that is the case, then shame on you.
Love to see these fishes in a glass bowl chattering to each other..
So frigging inconsequential
clean up your nasty shit. you don’t matter
According to the 2010 census Barbados has 86,424 girls and women aged between 12 and 55, that is 86,424 menstruating females. If we assume that each woman and girl needs 15 sanitary napkins per month that is 1,296,360 sanitary napkins which have to be disposed of each month, or 15, 556,320.
This is not rocket science. The census data is there. The Barbados Water Authority has access to this data, so does the Ministry of the Environment and the Ministry of Health. periods do not go away. They will be with us always, even unto the end of the earth.
If we do not want 15 1/2 million sanitary napkins per year clogging up our expensive sewer system, then people must be educated on the best way to dispose of napkins.
Including the million or more napkins used by tourist women and girls.
Our male policy makers may not want to think about used sanitary napkins, but we do pay sanitary engineers to think on such things.
“However i am more convinced that political interest and interference could have outweighed the necessity and cost of building a more efficient plant hence a process of risk taking was the alternative procedure.”
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The yard-fowl is SPEWING more POLITICAL SHIITE as she continues the “blame game” nonsense.
Anyone reading information relative to the IADB’s loan policy, would observe that countries borrowing from the Bank have to fulfill certain requirements before the loan is approved and disbursements are made in phases, according to the terms and conditions outlined by the Bank…… in this case as per contractual agreements signed on March 08, 1993, by the then government of Barbados.
With projects of this nature, the Bank pays a particular interest in assessing the environmental and social aspects. As such, one important requirement is an Environmental (and Social) Impact Assessments (EIAs), which, according to the Bank, “are prepared for projects with potentially substantial environmental and social impacts. EIAs are made available to affected populations and local nongovernmental organizations by the borrower BEFORE the Bank conducts its Analysis (or in the case of non-sovereign guaranteed operations, its Due-diligence) Mission.”
Another requirement is the Monthly Operational Summary (MOS) reports on the status of projects while they are in the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) lending pipeline.
You must realize the project was done in phases and the loan funds were disbursed accordingly. Each phase had to follow the guidelines as agreed to in the contract.
Surely to suggest “political interest and interference could have outweighed the necessity and cost of building a more efficient plant,” should be DISMISSED as POLITICAL RHETORIC. Such fool hardy action would be an obvious violation of the agreed terms of the contract.
On November 18, 2016, the IADB approved a loan of US25,000,000: BA-L1035: Road Rehabilitation and Improving Connectivity of Road Infrastructure.
Project Status: Implementation
“The main objective of the operation is to improve the quality of road infrastructure and its connectivity, in order to inter alia enhance Barbados tourism competitiveness and growth. Specifically, the program aims to: (i) rehabilitate sections of road networks and lower logistic cost, particularly transportation costs and travel times and improve safety; and (ii) provide a framework for institutional strengthening to improve transport sector planning capacity, road investment’s sustainability and financial mechanisms for rehabilitation and regular maintenance interventions undertaken by the MTW.”
I would like Michael Lashley to explain why we are having a problem with “pot-holes.”
@ Dr. Simple “Riff-Raff” Simon fake Phd.and all January 4, 2018 at 2:27 PM
“Are you telling me that Bajan men NEVER change the diapers of their children or of their elderly parents?
If that is the case, then shame on you.”
The short-shrift manner in which you speak about men one can only conclude that men are a bunch of lazy irresponsible bastards despite the fact that the first 7 years of their lives their mother or some other female figure is the influential agent in forming their moral character, given that 70 % of Bajan households are headed by females.
So, by statistical analysis one can only conclude women are to be blamed primarily for the disposal of diapers both on the baby boys and old men.
BTW, the majority of senior civil servants who influence the policy-making process are FEMALE. Check your facts.
its not just the diapers but the wet wipes as well, toilet paper degrades but a lot of you have been keeping the nation newspaper in business by using it for wiping after reading it. Condoms are very bad for the system and throwing cigarette butts into urinals is a no-no… Well Well tells it makes them soggy and hard to light.
Hahaaaaaaa!!! The DLP apologists are boldfaced mi sey. Notwithstanding Artax’s sustained debunking of this design claim, the apologists persist. However, I have one foolish question–if it is the BLP fault why Sealy and Boyce didn’t say so from the outset instead of bathing in the filth?
Maybe Sealy and Boyce want to breakout with a pox to gain the sympathy vote?
Are we able to say that the input line from Oistins DOES NOT get clogged and the one from Bridgetown DOES?
If that is the case there is more going on here than meets the eye!!
@ lawson January 4, 2018 at 4:07 PM
Lawson, you are too ‘bad’. Your ‘’dirty’ irony never escapes those albino rats who have to patrol the gutter that makes up the racial divide.
Leave poor WW&C out of it. She is/was married to one like you, ass-scratching and all.
We are really disappointed in these educated blacks but you of all the dirty harry’s’ should understand that you can take a white pig to the opera but it can still behave like a black sheep without a bag of white wool to camouflage.
You know where the miller is coming from don’t you, chameleon?
Lol…don’t mind Lawson…let him keep his rancid tail in 40 degrees below monster cyclone weather and watch trump be taken down….the trumpturds are now on their own…cause trump don’t want yo see any of them, he will gladly have secret service shoot them on sight…lol
WW no need for shooting me when i come down in march the island should be percolating with bacteria if nothing is done and an old fella like myself will probably get legionaires disease from the air conditioning
Worse than that Lawson…did you not have your children walking barefoot in the poop up Ch, Ch last year..
I fully expect you to glow in the dark this year…lol
Thats is true and they all picked up some foot worm, but the water in front of dover I thought was just rain water now I am thinking different, what did miller mean when he said you were married to someone like me, do you know other people that have a job.
🙂 Lawson: A wise guy
Lawson…Miller meant a better version than you, a self made man from a stronger gene pool, to be married to me this long, he would have to be.
Oh dear Barbados as a tourist coming soon this is pretty worrying! Sanitation is the cornerstone of civilisation – you simply have to find a way and money to deal with this NOW! Once infectious disease starts and finds it way into the naiive (immunologically speaking) tourist population you will have a long term financial crisis on your hands ( let alone causing lots of suffering) – u should not plan to allow raw sewage into the sea – or at least only in dire emergency many miles out- just give the engineers their tools and resources to improve the plant the short term -they will know what to do – make sure you have sanitary bins in every toilet in every institution, hotel and house – make sure as a short term measure you test bathing waters affected daily (e. Coli is a cheap indicator test) make sure all kitchens have no one working having v&/or d make sure if anyone has had v&d they are excluded from kitchen work until 48 hours after those symptoms have ceased pretty please get on top of this before it gets on top of u