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DAVID COMISSIONG, Chairman, Caribbean Pan-African Network (CPAN)

The campaign to secure “Reparations” for the multiplicity of genocides and crimes that have been committed against the sons and daughters of Africa during the centuries of Slavery and Colonization consists ofย  an โ€œoutwardly directedโ€ process in which we level demands at the liable European and North American Governments and institutions for a comprehensive package of compensatory money payments, developmental programmes, transfers of resources, and national and international institutional reforms , as well as of an โ€œinwardly directedโ€ process that we African or African-descended people must engage in ourselves to repair those aspects of the damage that pertain most directly to our minds and psyches.

And deeply embedded in the concept of and campaign for Reparations are the following twelve fundamental principles :-

1. NOย  IMPUNITY!

The campaign for Reparations sends a message to all and sundry that there will be no impunity for those who commit “crimes against humanity”. Who so everย  commits a “crime against humanity” must know and expect that justice will be demanded of them– even if it takes two hundred years, and even if it is their successors and beneficiaries who are ultimately required to make recompense !

2. VALIDATION OF OUR HUMANITY

If we Africans or African-descendants fail to demand that the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of thoseย  institutions and nations that committed the most horrible crimes imaginable against our ancestors be held accountable and made to pay restitution, we would be implicitly sending a message to ourselves and to the world at large that we do not consider our ancestors (or ourselves) to be sacred beings invested with inalienable rights and deserving of respect and justice! And so, the very act of demanding Reparations constitutes a validation by us of our own precious humanity, and is a critical component of the process that we must engage in as individuals and as a collective of repairing ourselves!

3. KNOWLEDGEย  OFย  OURย  HISTORY

The Reparations Campaign must be built upon a foundation of knowledge about who we African or African-descended people were before the criminal European impositions of slavery and colonialism — knowledge of the achievements and glories of our pre-slavery, pre-colonial African civilization; knowledge of the history of European orchestrated enslavement and its destructive effects on the civilization of Africa; and knowledge of the extent to which the present-day materially imposing Western industrial societies constitute agglomerations of wealth stolen from the sons and daughters of Africa over the centuries.

4. COMPLETION OF THE EMANCIPATION PROCESS

Of course, the point must also be made that the racist oppression of black or African people did not end with the formal abolition of slavery! Indeed, after the abolition of slavery in the 19th century our historical oppressors deliberately entrapped our ancestors in economic, political and social arrangements that were designed to handicap them and to serve the interests of the former enslaversโ€“ arrangements that have persisted (in modified form) down to the present day. The struggle for Reparations must therefore beโ€“ among other thingsโ€“ a struggle to expose and put an end to such arrangements and to complete the Emancipation process!

5. COMPENSATION MUST BE PROPORTIONATE TO THE CRIME

The demand for compensation from the present-day representatives of those who inflicted horrendous crimes on our ancestors and who damaged and disabled succeeding generations must consist of a demand for the transfer of material resources in an amount proportionate to the enormity of the crimes and their deleterious effectsโ€”resources to enable present-day African and African-descendant populations to counter the economic and social imbalances derived from those centuries of criminality.

6. REPARATIONS MUST PRODUCE THE JUST SOCIETY

The campaign for Reparations or for Reparative Justice must be designed to produce the “just society”, in that the demand for Reparations must be formulated as a demand for a fundamental transformation of the currently existing inequitable and exploitative economic and power relations that exist in the international arena and in many of our domestic societies. This principle has implications not only for the restructuring of such international entities and phenomena as the United Nations Security Council, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and the terms of international trade and finance, but also for the manner in which our domestic African and Caribbean societies and Governments function. Implicit in the demand of our Caribbean and African Governments for Reparations must be a commitment to themselves deliver justice to their own people! And this is a commitment that the masses of African and Caribbean people must be prepared โ€“ through dynamic activism and advocacy– to hold our Governments to!

7. WE AFRICANS MUST EXERCISE AUTONOMY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS

An integral strategy of the contemporary Reparations Movement is to present the demand for the payment of compensation (in financial and material resources as well as in developmental programmes) to the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of the evil system of slave trade and slavery and to invite their collaboration in addressing the tragic effects of this monumental historical crime. But even while adopting this approach, we Africans and African-descendants make it absolutely clear to all and sundry that even though we value the concept of collaboration, that the strategies and tasks to be implemented for our psychological repair and for our economic and social empowerment are our own responsibility and will be conceptualized, directed and controlled by us!

8. WE MUST REPAIR OURSELVES

A critical component of the campaign for Reparations is the African’s and African-descendant’s own inwardly directed struggle for psychological, cultural and spiritual self-repair. Thus, African or Afro-descendant members of the Reparations Movement and their governments must be committed – as individuals and as collectives – to seek to identify all of the ways in which we have been and continue to be negatively affected by false notions of white supremacy and black inferiority, and to rigorously attack them and eradicate the negative effects that impact on our individual and collective psyches!

9. SELF-REPAIR WILL GENERATE MASS SUPPORT FOR REPARATIONS

The effort to “prosecute” and hold accountable the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of the historical oppressors of the African and African-descendant people will require the widespread participation of Africans and African-descendants: and the attainment of such widespread popular participation will, in turn, be dependent on the inwardly directed struggle for self-repair and its capacity to persuade a critical mass of the African population to re-evaluate themselves and their history; to perceive the gravity of the injustice; to feel the tragic historical loss they have suffered; and to be sufficiently motivated to get involved or otherwise support the campaign for Reparations. The Reparations Movement and the African and Caribbean governments that lead it must therefore engage in a comprehensive mass education outreach programme to the community that is designed not only to educate about the relevant history, but to also help as many of our people as possible to emotionally connect with that history and the tragic loss and injustice suffered.

10. REPARATIONS MUST BE A BROAD MOVEMENT

The campaign for Reparations must be designed, on the one hand, to bring on board with us all of our natural allies in Africa and the Diaspora, Latin America and Asia and to enlist the tremendous weight of world opinion on our side, and, on the other hand, to isolate and publicly hold up to international embarrassment and critique all those entities that perversely and unreasonably seek to deny and resist the manifest justice and righteousness of our claim to Reparations. This will call for a concerted effort in the field of international diplomacy by the Ambassadors, Embassies and foreign Missions of the nations of the Caribbean Community (CARICOM) and the African Union (AU). It will also require consistent effort at the General Assembly of the United Nations, the Organization of American States, the Commonwealth and in other relevant international organizations.

11.ย  THEย  MASS OFย  OURย  PEOPLEย  MUST BE INTIMATELY INVOLVED

The masses of our African and African-descendant populations must be intimately involved in the campaign for Reparations: they must be permitted enough time and opportunity to thoroughly discuss and understand the issue; their right to have the final and decisive say on the concrete details of the Reparations claim must be respected; and they must have a say – through representatives specifically selected by them – as to how the compensatory resources are utilized. Furthermore, at a national level– within our many nation states–the Reparations Movement should systematically appeal to and challenge all of the relevant local and national organizations to put support for Reparations on their agenda and to include it in their programmes and Manifestos – political parties, trade unions, youth organizations, churches, womenโ€™s organizations, educational institutions, local government administrations, and the list goes on.

12. NETWORK AND ESTABLISH A NEW INTERNATIONAL LEGAL STRUCTURE

The successful pursuit of Reparations will require the establishment of a world-wide network of community, regional, national and international organizations. Indeed, at the grassroots level, the community based Reparations organization must be linked into a national network, while at the level of our African and Caribbean governments we should establish a trans-Atlantic international network that is preparing and engaging in legal, diplomatic and political strategies at the international level to achieve Reparations. The African and African-descendants Reparations Claim (s) will either be consensually negotiated between mutually respectful State parties gathered around an international negotiating table, or it will have to be litigated in a series of international law cases brought against the Governments of the liable nations.

CONCLUSION :

The time has come for the African and African descendant people of the world and their Governments to finally present their Reparations Bill to the current day successor Governments of those national Governments of Europe and North America that organized, facilitated, legitimized, financed, and benefited from the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and the associated system of racialized Chattel Slavery — the governments of Britain, Spain, France, Portugal, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Norway, and the United States of America (a former colony that perpetuated the enslavement of African people for nearly one hundred years after attaining its independence).

Onwards to the achievement of Reparations in this United Nations International Decade For People of African Descent!


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  1. October 17, 2017 / Caribbean / Jamaica

    UWI launches Reparations Research Center

    By Vinette K. Pryce

    C. Peter Ferguson

    UWI Professor Dr. Carolyn Cooper.

    A center for reparation research became a reality at the University of the West Indies in Kingston, Jamaica last week when the islandโ€™s prime minister and numerous government officials launched the Center for Reparations Research, a CARICOM mandated facility.

    Endorsed and approved by heads of government of Caribbean member states during the 24th meeting July 2013, they developed a 10-point action plan to seek recompense from European colonizers that shipped Africans against their will to the Caribbean islands in order to exploit them by working them without pay on the sugar plantations from which they built prosperous economies and even empires.

    Notwithstanding is the context of a slave trade that had irreparable consequences on the entire African population while proving to be an economic boon to the slave owners and their benefactors.

    It is with those issues at the forefront of the united initiative that a 10-point plan for reparatory justice was approved to decide โ€” Full Formal Apology, Repatriation, Indigenous Peoples Development Program, Cultural Institutions, Public Health Crisis, Illiteracy Eradication, African Knowledge Program, Psychological Rehabilitation, Technology Transfer and Debt Cancellation.

    โ€œThe owners of todayโ€™s international banks and telecoms networks are the ideological heirs of the โ€œold piratesโ€ who continue to โ€œrob I,โ€ UWI Professor Dr. Carolyn Cooper said referencing lyrics from Bob Marleyโ€™s โ€œRedemption Song.โ€

    Cooper, a specialist on culture and development added that โ€œtrafficking of Africans was financed by capitalists who put profit far above any concern about the humanity of the โ€˜goodsโ€™ they were transportiยญng.โ€

    โ€œThatโ€™s a lesson we simply cannot afford to forget.โ€

    Last month marked the 65th anniversary of the signing of a $13.8-billion reparation agreement by West Germany to provide compensation and reimbursement to the Jewish people.

    Victims of the Nazi inflicted holocaust, they were compensated for losses and suffering the German racists meted out to them.

    โ€œUnfortunatยญely, we are not Jews and the former colonists not Germans who, incidentally, were not colonizers of Caribbean countries,โ€ an editorial in the Jamaica Observer noted questioning the viability of the CRR.

    The publicationโ€™s position was one of skepticism for the CRR but proposed โ€œmoreover, as the Caribbean islands are so tourism-dependent, those countries might be more easily persuaded to deepen disaster prevention and mitigation assistance to their present and former colonies as a way of reparation to Caribbean people living in these hurricane-ravaged territories to which we were brought by them.โ€

    The center will serve as the official outlet to study how best to resolve the issue long debated by CARICOM nationals of how to engage a global reparatory justice movement โ€œto respond to the terrible crimes against humanity that enslaved Africans endured.โ€

    The initiative of establishing such a center emerged out of the need to support the movement and โ€œbuild awareness, engage advocacy, and conduct research which will advance the claim to Europeans for various forms of reparation for native genocide, African enslavement, deceptive indentured service, colonialism and its legacies.โ€

    The council of reparations is co-chaired by Verene Shepherd, professor of history, and Laleta Mattis Davis, chairman of the Jamaica National Heritage Trust. Shepherd will head the CRR.

    Cooper suggested that in order to glean any viable results CARICOM should โ€œswiftly take the case for reparation to the International Court of Justice.โ€

    2-Star Nation Amass 5-Star Parade

    Although the immigrant Panamanian community comprise less than a quarter of a million and is recorded to be the sixth-smallest Hispanic group in the United States and the second smallest Central American population, nationals boasting the two-star red, white and blue banner won kudos and โ€˜nuff respect for parading pride, culture, heritage and independence recently.

    On a day when size mattered, thousands exceeded the anticipated 50,000 benchmark figure projected by the Day of Independence Committee Parade of New York organizers whose members have been at the forefront of presenting a separate and unique staging of their heritage for 22 years.

    Claiming the second Saturday in October, this year, they managed to upstage the rain-drenched Hispanic Day and the Columbus Day parades. As if rewarded by the weather Gods, Panamanians received tropical-like sunshine, low humidity, seasonal temperatures and scores of supporters.

    As in past years, marching bands, beauty queens, fraternal and folkloric groups, vendors, etc represented however, this year it seemed as if the vibe permeated throughout and dominated until the very last band of musicians known as Campesino Colon entered the triangle at Classon Ave. and Eastern Parkway.

    Thousands reveled behind the folk drummers following to the very end at dusk.

    Panamanians are one of the least visible Hispanic nationalities in the United States however, for this one day to display patriotism they travel from all parts of Canada, the USA and Panama.

    They have never been shy about flaunting their national dress and adornments.

    Conspicuous at the annual WIADCA in Brooklyn, the Hispanic Day Parade in Manhattan they annually provide alluring glances to flouncing polleras, bejeweled tembeleques and colorful embroidered molas unique to the cultural melting pot acclaimed as the narrow bridge of land that connects North and South America.

    As a matter of fact due to their zealous participation, organizers of the Hispanic Day parade beseeched the contingent of Panamanians to limit their numbers of participants in this yearโ€™s parade.

    โ€œIt is not the Panama parade, it is the Hispanic parade,โ€ they were reportedly politely informed.

    Geographically mapped by 51 miles, the Panama Canal forms a shortcut to North and South America. Three years ago, the Brooklyn parade commemorated 100 years of the diggers who flocked there from various islands of the West Indies to build the technological wonder which easily transports ocean liners from the Atlantic to the Pacific Oceans.

    Also distinguished for being the first Spanish colony on the Pacific, Panama holds claim to being the winner of the first Olympic gold medal from Central America.

    Long jumper Irving โ€œKangarooโ€ Saladino, won the menโ€™s event in Beijing, China in 2008.

    Colon-born Saladino was the special invited guest to the parade this year. Along with Urenna A. Best Gayle, who serves as director general of the national secretariat for growth and development of Afro-Panamanian heritage, they joined with grand marshalls Jose F. Francis and Shawndya Luisa Simpson to demonstrate pride in the isthmus.

    Simpson, a Brooklyn, civil court judge and Francis who hosts the popular TV show โ€œRinconcito Panameno,โ€ joined Victor Marshall, President of DICPNY, Mauricio Alleyne and Dorothy Small, co-founders of DICPNY and the very small team of 12 that surpassed every expectation by parading a violent-free, safe and perhaps the best example of pride in culture and independence in Brooklyn.

    Unequivocally, Panamanians can claim the prize for putting on the best show reflecting a blend of African, Native American, North American and Spanish influences.

    Had Panama-born Republican John McCain attended, he too might have expressed appreciation of the pride of his birth in the two-star state.

    Catch You on The Inside!

    Updated 4:59 pm, October 17, 2017

    ยฉ2017 COMMUNITY NEWS GROUP


  2. More racist drivel from the parasite Commissiong, who has made a comfortable living avoiding work to promote dissension, dependency and racial division. He is the Bajan version of the two so-called Reverends who have similarly stirred up hatred in the US, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton.
    (I note that while the repulsive Jackson is a rabid Jew-hater, and racist, his criminal spawn is a Federal ex-con for thievery, and Sharpton is real sharp about not paying his taxes like the little people).

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/frenzy/jackson.htm

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/nyregion/questions-about-al-sharptons-finances-accompany-his-rise-in-influence.html

    Once African descendants had the likes of MLK, now they have thieves, charlatans and parasites stirring up the resentment that they live so handsomely off.


  3. Why do you blame Comissiong for being an advocate of reparations? Is he the only one? Isn’t Caricom and the UWI at the vanguard of the demand for the once colonial masters to represent?

    The article below shows why Blacks and those sympathetic to the cause must keep the pressure on this matter. Imagine we have tis thinking lodged in high paces in the establishment.

    Repent!

     

    Market strategist Marc Faber under fire for racist remarks

    by Julia Horowitz @juliakhorowitz

    October 17, 2017: 8:32 PM ET

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    Comments made by Swiss investment adviser Marc Faber about race triggered a swift backlash.

    Faber, who is well known for his market pessimism and often referred to as "Dr. Doom," said in the October edition of his "Gloom, Boom & Doom Report" that it’s a good thing white people colonized America.

    "Thank God white people populated America, and not the blacks," he wrote. "Otherwise, the US would look like Zimbabwe, which it might look like one day anyway, but at least America enjoyed 200 years in the economic and political sun under a white majority."

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    Faber has since resigned from the board of Sprott, a Canadian asset management firm, at the request of the other directors.

    "The recent comments by Dr. Faber are deeply disappointing and are completely contradictory with the views of Sprott and its employees," CEO Peter Grosskopf said in a statement. "We pride ourselves on being a diverse organization and comments of this sort will not be tolerated."

    Novagold Resources, a precious metals company, also announced that Faber had resigned from its board on Tuesday evening.

    Ivanhoe Mines, a mineral exploration company, said Tuesday night that it requested and accepted Faber’s resignation from its board.

    "There is zero tolerance for racism," the company said in a statement. "Ivanhoe Mines disagrees with, and deplores, the personally-held views about race that Marc Faber has published in his current investment newsletter."

    The company said the resignation is effective immediately.

    Meanwhile, television networks are distancing themselves, too. Spokespeople for CNBC, Fox Business and Bloomberg TV all confirmed to CNNMoney on Tuesday that they do not plan to book Faber in the future.

    Reached by email, Faber stood by his remarks.

    "If stating some historical facts makes me a racist, then I suppose that I am a racist. For years, Japanese were condemned because they denied the Nanking massacre," he said.

    CNNMoney (New York)First published October 17, 2017: 5:57 PM ET


  4. Reparation in the form of financial compensation from Britain is an unrealistic and unachievable objective because:

    British Politics: It is very unlikely that any British Government (BG) will pay reparations to the Caribbean, e.g. in 2015, the BG said โ€œnoโ€ to reparations: see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34401412 No other political party in Britain has said that it would pay reparations to the Caribbean. Reparations may also prove to be very unpopular among British voters/taxpayers. In the light of Britainโ€™s austerity measures (and the Brexit Bill) โ€“ they may ask โ€œhow come we have no money for public services but we have money for reparations?โ€ I donโ€™t think that a reply based on morals will suffice.

    Law: Slavery was not crime. Hence, references to compensation paid to the Jews for war crimes are unhelpful. The legal facts in each case are not the same.

    Negotiating Power: The Caribbean has no negotiating or economic power, e.g. it cannot โ€œtwist Britainโ€™s armโ€ to pay reparations to the Caribbean.


  5. Whites are still racist scum

  6. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Tony..you will note that it’s Slave Masters said slavery was not a crime, they had no right.

    If you killed someone deliberately, or stole from someone, or raped someone deliberately, you too would say it was not a crime..

    The perpetraters of slavery made the laws back then…that makes any laws they made null and void…they were and still are the criminals, laws criminals make are not laws, they are excuses to commit crimes, in this case against people of African descent…and their descendants…

    Reparations does not have to come in the form of money….but reparations will be paid.

    45fascist is seeing his days for misusing and abusing the descendants of slaves to enrich a minority and his pretence of white supremacy coming to a swift and surprising end…so it is not sitting well with him but he gotta deal with it….or just leave the damn earth, who cares,

    …….who cares about Al Sharpton…if he can shove it to the US injustice system…more power to him.

  7. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Again…laws created by the same white criminals who perpetrated, benefitted from and are still benefitting from the Slave Trade….are not laws.

    They are not recognized by KARMA.


  8. Look it is very hard to get the support of people that were not alive or ancestors were not living in that country at the time slavery was happening to pay for the sins of the elites centuries ago. Its not like you are canadian indians and had signed contracts. Does anyone else see a problem with the book title.

  9. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Faber did not mention the successful African countries that did not have Zimbabwe’s sanctions organized by the west…and are prospering just fine…,that is the problem with racist scum, they only see what they want to see, glad they fired his ass….let him pontificate on that.

    On its present trajectory and with the orange idiot at the helm, the US is more than 98% likely to end up worse than any African country…..

    ….Karma has much work to do.

  10. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson…no one cares if slave masters are dead or alive, dead is far better for them ……and their descendants are very much alive and still benefitting from the slavery crimes of their ancestors, the eugenics, the racism, the white supremacy, the constant scams and thefts from the descendants of slaves to keep their future descendants in modern day slavery and debt bondage….

    In other words…slavery and enslavement of the mind never ended, but simply refined and modified…all the way from the 1400s to 2017. …try disproving that.


  11. “555dubstreet October 18, 2017 at 6:05 AM #
    Whites are still racist scum”
    Yeah, and blacks cannot be racists, yet they willingly enslaved and sold their neighbouring tribes for beads and baubles. So blacks are not only racist scum, but genocidal racist scum.


  12. The Caribbean occupied pride of place in the triangular route historians refer to as the Middle Passage. Blacks in this part of the world must continue to be aggressive by keeping the issue of reparations on the front-burner This is not about money only as the myopic who rail against it will suggest We must be relentless and Jew-like in our pursuit of justice. How the hell does a human not know that to whip even an animal was wrong? The article above in today’s enlightened age exposes the mindset.

  13. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    But Blacks are not the ones going to pay for perpetrating the slave trade from Africa to Caribbean, to Europe, North, Central and South Americas now are they…….because they did not.

    See what I mean, racist scum only see what they want to see.

  14. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    As long as Commisiong and his movement recognizes that crimes are still being committed against the descendants of slaves as an extension of the African Slave Trade to enrich the descendants of slave traders….all which he can present with countless previous centuries and modern day decades of evidence of CONTINUING CRIMES against the descendants of slaves from the Caribbean, to North America, to Europe and beyond………it is a cakewalk.

    Karma is working overtime.


  15. WW of course they are, if reparations are going to be paid they will tax blacks as well as everyone else to pay it, i dont think it is going to happen. You do need somebody high profile to lead the charge, forget sharpton you need obama. You still wont get it but he will make you feel all cute and cuddly.

  16. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson…..It’s not about what you think or want…no one cares what you think, it is about reality, modern day realities….what you want is irrelevant, you have no control over what happens next, so what you think will never count..

    ..the movement for reparations has been ongoing in US for decades, when those who pass away move on, it is taken over by the next generation and will for hundreds of years going forward….unless is comes to an end in our lifetime, but there is no stopping the movement…or its successful outcome.

    Sharpton with all his faults have kept the racists of the US on their toes for decades, ironically he found out years ago that he was related to one of the most evil white racists in the US senate and the country, the long dead Strom Thurmond…who raped a black 14 year old maid in his father’s house… and fathered a black daughter…so you have no authority to speak about Sharpton….neither you nor 45fascist.


  17. I see the BU BLOG posting articles like this is starting to smell like the south coast sewage system in Hastings, LOAD OF CRAP. Just a lot of supposed educated N’s blowing off gas. They would be better off using their limited intellectual abilities to tackle the regions economic issues.

  18. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    And speaking of limited intellects, it’s only racists and house negros who do not take a reparations for Black people seriously and jump out to scream and holler everytime they say payments for crimes against African descendants in the Caribbean being addressed.

    the UK has already had to pay reparations to Africans some time ago, I believe it was Kenyans or another African tribe….for crimes against them and their ancestors…

    Germany after initial resistance agreed to pay East Africa for the slave crimes their ancestors committed and from which they still benefit……so there is already precedent in place.

    What also has to be addressed in the region is the racists and house negros, particularly in Barbados who continue to perpetrate crimes against the descendants of slaves to enrich themselves which is now solely responsible for the negative economic fall out and hardships being experienced by the citizens, those crimes need to be addressed and the perpetrators imprisoned for very long stretches with all their illgotten gains confiscated and sold to repay taxpayers and pensioners…

    ….that would be justice.


  19. Commie wrote,
    The campaign for Reparations sends a message to all and sundry that there will be no impunity for those who commit โ€œcrimes against humanityโ€. Who so ever commits a โ€œcrime against humanityโ€ must know and expect that justice will be demanded of themโ€“ even if it takes two hundred years, and even if it is their successors and beneficiaries who are ultimately required to make recompense !

    Abject BS! So if my 7G Grandad owned slaves in the 1750s and I, nor my mother, an orphan at 8 yrs ever received a penny of that money I should pay for that? This clown Commie should be a comedian! Should you spend 25 yrs in prison or receive the Death Penalty without parole because your 7G grandad raped and murdered my relative?

    I, MB, do promise to endorse any cheque or monies I receive from my 7G Grandad or other such relative, or if I should come into possession of their cheque books, gold, silver etc I will turn it over to WUNNA forthwith! Additionally, should the British Govt ever send me a payment regarding my family’s treatment by Judge Jeffries and Charles 2 as a result of the Monmouth Rebellion OR should said Govt payout for permitting my youthful familly who were sent down in coal mines, contracting black lung disease and who tended to DIE by age 25 in horrible conditions in the said foggy, rainy UK, I will endorse to wunna.

    If Commie really cared about the people he would spend his efforts wisely on helping the Southern Sudanese who are enslaved by their northern Muslim aggressors.


  20. I have read somewhere that the figure put on reparations is $76bn. If so, how was this calculation made?

  21. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    “Abject BS! So if my 7G Grandad owned slaves in the 1750s and I, nor my mother, an orphan at 8 yrs ever received a penny of that money I should pay for that?”

    Yes ya should MoneyB….it’s the proceeds of crimes against humanity.

    Arent the proceeds of crimes confiscated. ..

    Besides. ..why are you even concerned.., your ancestors were Barbadosed and were indentured servants….so it’s the descendants of indentured servants who with their house negros in parliament stealing from taxpayer and pensioners on the island in present day real time and who should have everything confiscated for those thefts….in the near future.


  22. Wily Coyote October 18, 2017 at 8:32 AM #

    They would be better off using their limited intellectual abilities to tackle the regions economic issues.
    ………………………….

    Truer words never spake…..

    Then again why…….easier to day dream and believe that 130 years after our great grands developed a model island with their blood,sweat&tears,the UWI grads can out do them in 50 years with fancy economics and after that has failed these same grads are going to convince the populli that great grands were stupid not to have gotten any money but that they can do so now by reviving the the slavery debate and by a master stroke link it to the holocaust of eighty years ago.

    Lovely pie in the sky with kool aid tossed in.

  23. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    as soon as house negros and racists hear the words Reparations for the AFRCAN descendants of the Caribbean slave trade perpetrated by UK, Europe and North America, reparations which is none of their business because, they will not be the ones paying it with their broke ass selves always trying to rob Blackpeople…and they have no interest in it, yet they are always the first to rail, scream and shout fighting against it…

    we must ask ourselves why these level of idiots who have no right to speak for a majority black population and are always trying to derail black personal progress, believe themselves entitled to have a say.

    not this time.


  24. I’m just another Soldier in the Army of Love
    https://youtu.be/d4YVugLyJms


  25. Wylie and Vinnie,

    Dem will put their minds to TEEFING more of the people’s $$$$$$$.

    What many on here dont get is that encouraging the youths to think that the Gravy Train coming to town on their behalf,will likely prove counterproductive to the improvement of said youth.

    I do trust that we could attain a spanking new Hospital for Bajans but NO direct payment should be made to the Govt ie Pols dem will find some method of exacting a huge
    Commission!


  26. Waiting for Reparations is for Dummies!

    WW, the more clever amongst us know it is a useless pursuit since these Euro countries already mash up ie Bankrupt—Dead ment walking!


  27. Vinnie,
    In today’s world each life should be worth at least $500K, so 40 mn X $500k= $TR 20.

    That money would not clear on an excellent day! Who gin receive the payment? Each dead slave has at least hundreds of progeny!


  28. Are whites allowed to express an opinion?

  29. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    MoneyB…first of all, i have said repeatedly i dont believe reparations should be in the form of paper…that is what money is….because of all the thieving politicians, ministers, lawyers, priests, reverends etc who would want to be involved…but i am a minority voice.

    there are so many things much more important and worth more than money and i can creatively name 20 things on earth worth more than 3 trillion….that should be returned to the black population and descendants of slaves..

    still…reparations concern the African descendants of the slave trade, not racists and not house negros, its their choice how they want to be paid.....no one elses.

  30. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    were whites, blacks, latinos or anyone else allowed to speak FOR them when jews demanded reparations for crimes against humanity. against themselves and their ancestors…….just asking.

    i mean no one is stopping opinions, but it`s the same people over and over believe they have a right to speak FOR the majority population….believe no one but themselves know what is best for them, inveigling and intruding and that is wrong, a clear violation of rights and total disrespect.


  31. dont believe it should be in the form of paper????? what???? we already gave you an island and look what you have done with it ……better try and get the paper……


  32. Lawson,
    Is there a home more the mentally ill in Canada? I can recommend someone to you.


  33. @Andrew

    What is your view?

  34. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    Lawson did not learn anything from the last time he tried to wind me up…lol


  35. Andrew Simpson October 18, 2017 at 3:18 PM #

    Are whites allowed to express an opinion?
    ……………………………………………………………………

    An interesting question.

    ……were all “whites” culpable of the iniquities of the slave trade

    Which then leads on to, which progeny is entitled to express an opinion:

    ……The House slave…….The Yard Slave…..The Stable Slave…..The Field Slave……The Freed slave?

    Now we have decided which of those can voice an opinion ????

    As we have no 100% African descendant of a slave in Bim today what percentage of which African tribe from the above decision would be entitled to reparations.

    Once those individuals are identified one may have to ensure that they were only adulterated by bona fide indentured servants.

    Should this exercise be carried to its logical conclusion one may find that those asking for it are not entitled to it……that would be interesting


  36. @Vincent

    Why do you think we have to beat Andrew over the head with our wornout perspective? Let him share a view. Some of us are debating the issue at a principle, moral and philosophical level. Others persist to engage the issue at a granular level. This is a muddy issue and we must show extraordinary restraint and capacity to accommodate all views. The initiative has the blessing of a Caricom sub committee with its agent the UWI charged with carrying out the mandate. It will not go away without the strongest debate and lobby. Already Sir Hilary has claimed a small victory based on monies disbursed to the Caribbean Development Bank.


  37. David

    Andrew had a valid question deserving a response that would allow him to come to his own conclusion.

    Besides my disagreement with Caricom,Beckles,Commisiong and Co….the question remains as to who is entitled should they ever be succesfull.

  38. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    I was waiting for Andrew to share his view, why would Vincent spew such nonsense to addle what is in Andrew’s head, it is only to share an opinion, the decision is not his to make either……

    there are other reparation movements that I am sure will combine their efforts and arrive at what is best for the descendants of African slaves in the Caribbean.

    There is no mistake of who is descended from African tribes…DNA genetic testing does not lie, most slaves were taken from West Africa……..UK and other Euro countries have records of where the others were taken from…standards regarding who originated from these regions will have to be met, a non-African descendant cannot pretend to be African descendant…..African features are too distinct and genetic testing is very accurate….

    …..cause you still cannot believe much of what lying europeans say..

    I dont know why Vincent is hurting his head with the semantics, the decisions will not be his either….that is why there is an organization of people tasked with making those decisions, besides, as long as precedent has been set regarding reparations for crimes against humanity because of the slave trade, after the initial resistance….barriers will start being broken down, small victories will lead to big victories, until the settlement.


  39. most slaves were taken from West Africa ?

    Taken or SOLD by chieftans due to Wars ie POWS, intra tribal problems ie big boss dont like yuh, criminality, fella teef a bread cause he is hungry etc? We are talking about history here where all kind of madness happened to people who had no power, EXACTLY the same in Europe where Whiteys were treated badly too! The top 1% mash up evabuddy! But now the poor whites are supposed to take a viscous lash again?

    This is NOT a Black White problem! It is a Powerful versus not powerful problem. The Race is used for simplification and to rile up certain people.

    When I watch a movie and see the brutal treatment of slaves, I derive pure sadness from that as if I cast myself back say 300 years I can envisage my darker Bajan friends in that position. It gives me no comfort whatsoever.


  40. MB

    This is NOT a Black White problem! It is a Powerful versus not powerful problem. The Race is used for simplification and to rile up certain people.
    ……………………

    The idiots still cannot understand your point….well made.

  41. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    MoneyB…your argument is old and tired, it will not stop reparations from being paid, you and Vincent are not the ones making that decision, neither of you can come even close, so I will not go there with you……

    Suffice it to say, the people who can be trusted to do the right thing by the Caribbean descendants of slaves when they have to present what is required, will….and neither of you will be there…that makes both youepr views and opinions irrelevant and pointless….it has no bearing on the outcome.

  42. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Vincent Haynes October 18, 2017 at 4:26 PM #
    โ€œAn interesting question.
    โ€ฆโ€ฆwere all โ€œwhitesโ€ culpable of the iniquities of the slave trade
    Which then leads on to, which progeny is entitled to express an opinion:
    โ€ฆโ€ฆThe House slaveโ€ฆโ€ฆ.The Yard Slaveโ€ฆ..The Stable Slaveโ€ฆ..The Field Slaveโ€ฆโ€ฆThe Freed slave?
    Now we have decided which of those can voice an opinion ????
    As we have no 100% African descendant of a slave in Bim today what percentage of which African tribe from the above decision would be entitled to reparations.โ€

    Would you also plead a similar case of forgetting the past and pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps for the marginalized descendants of the native โ€˜Americanโ€™ tribes whose populations were decimated to make even Hitler look like a Saint Bernard dog and their main livelihood the bison deliberately slaughtered to almost extinction to make way for the โ€œlegalโ€ stealing of their ancestral lands to turn old America into a brand new โ€˜greatโ€™ white country?

    The vulnerability of your view on the reparations debt due to the descendants of enslaved West Africans is โ€˜cockedโ€™ on the notion that specific individuals would be given specific amounts of monetary compensation only to be frittered away.

    Any settlement of claims for reparations for people of West African descent living in Barbados and elsewhere in the Americas of the post Columbus era must never be in the form of monetary payments to any government or individual (pauper, prince or priest).

  43. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    The stage the reparations movement is at, is beyond the reach of petty detractors, why do yall even bother….ya cant stop anything, giving yaselves high blood pressure and strokes for something that does not even concern you……is pathetic.

  44. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Exactly Miller…I don’t know why they are so up in arms when there are people with levels of intelligence who know exactly what to demand and in which form….and they will know to whom reparations will have to go….

    My take on it is that reparations should never be in a form that those now protesting reparations can thief from the majority population…because they will believe themselves entitled to tief what is not theirs…..

    And even if it is in paper form and fritted away, it’s still none of the detractor’s business.

    It’s just bad mindedness on their part towards Caribbean Blacks, that is all it boils down to, they cant leave it alone….to play out….and will hate to see Blacks no longer demonized and criminalized…they have been protesting reparations for too long.

    Sensible bloggers would have stopped when they heard that progress was being made, but not these….

    what is going to really kill them is they cannot say that every Black person in the Caribbean is not indigenous to Africa.., that is where their argument gets weaker and weaker.., they cannot dispute African descent for the majority population on the island….or prove their ancestors originated from anywhere else but Africa…..lol


  45. Miller

    Yuh got muh cawfuffled…what elucidation do you require?

  46. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ vincent haynesw October 18, 2017 at 7:52 PM

    Vincent the Pelau (like the miller) let us โ€œkerfuffleโ€ you some more.

    You would clearly appreciate that the descendants of those white master/black female slave sexual liaisons and who can’t be identified as either European fish or African fowl should be entitled to a share of any reparations?

    The descendants of these โ€˜half-breedsโ€™ might not have suffered so much from the physically destroying effects of the back-breaking slave labour in the sugarcane fileds but โ€˜clearlyโ€™ from the psychological effects of having been sired by white men but with no access to daddyโ€™s legal recognition and guiding love.

    The case for Reparations is even made stronger when the continuous rape of the black woman is taken into account. From generation to generation there was no option of refusal of sex before Christian marriage for the black โ€˜virginโ€™ wench raised on the plantation.

    Now remember what you said earlier:
    โ€œAs we have no 100% African descendant of a slave in Bim today what percentage of which African tribe from the above decision would be entitled to reparations.โ€

    You better quit before Comissiong and the others of mulatto-slave descent but still carrying names like Prof. Sir Hilary Beckles, C. Peter Ferguson and Dr. Carolyn Cooper read these submissions and โ€˜up de reparations tingโ€™ for an ante as a way of compensating for the continuing damage to their psyches of not being able to get those monkeys of European names off their backs.

  47. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    That would be like John…who went on and on until he made an even more solid case for reparations…lol


  48. WW,
    Of course my opinion is irrelevant it should be left to Profs and others of high standing.

    When I see the full results are positive, I will believe it then. Just mek sure it wont cost me anything since I was born in the 1950s NOT the 1750s and all those born in the 1950s benefited from what went before. The roads, the schools, the hospital, the whatever but those who were working hard and paying Taxes, the minority, paid for it as 12% of the population paid more than 80% of total Taxes.


  49. You are never getting reparations in a bad economy, and you cant have it both ways slagging trump while he tries with great effect to turn the economy around. So get on the trump band wagon WW and your dreams may come true
    Now when foreign aid is sent to barbados each year is that not in a way reparations or are you getting my money because I owe you for something else.

  50. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    MoneyB…you dont even live in the Caribbean…what your taxes will pay for are the crimes committed against the native Canadian indigenous tribes……the First Nation people of Canada.so will Lawson’s…….

    …..and I will take your lies about minorities who only make up 2.5%..3% of a population …..7,500 people or less…..paying more taxes than the 95% Black population…….260,000 people, whose labor continues to be stolen by the same miniscule minorities…with a cup of salt.

    We have now passed the stage of detractors claiming that the Black descendants of African Slaves should not be paid……there is existing precedent and a valid claim for Caribbean Blacks to be returned their due for crimes perpetrated by whites against their ancestors….the theft of labor, raoes and murders.

    To continue to act as a detractor against reparations for Caribbean Blacks, particularly the majority population in Barbados….. is obsessive and borders on the maniacal. …ya already lost the debate since last year, move on to being glad….

    ……they can keep their fake apologizes….this is about giving back what they stole….centuries of labor was stolen, still being tiefed today…Caribbean people have to be educated that the white criminals who owned slaves were thieves, rapists and murderers, stop honoring and glorifying them and look at slavery realistically…..

    …..the thefts were againsts their ancestors and still being perpetrated against themselves today through thefts from the taxpaying treasury and pension fund ….paid by the majority population…but stolen by a minority of thieves in the business community.

    http://ow.ly/EaGp30fZ1R5

    The Caribbean people have a legitimate claim for slavery reparations
    Cecily Jones

    The economic and social poverty of parts of the region are a lasting legacy of slave trading

    Sunday 16 March 2014 16.32 GMT First published on Sunday 16 March 2014 16.32 GMT

    Caribbean heads of government gathered in St Vincent last week to discuss reparations from Europe for the enduring legacy of slavery. Professor Hilary Beckles, a Barbadian historian who chairs a reparations taskforce for these governments, wants to open talks with former slave-trading nations including the UK, France, Spain, Portugal and the Netherlands.

    The Oscar-winning 12 Years a Slave has opened up new conversations across the region, and what was once considered an unrealistic and unachievable demand now seems imaginable.

    Campaigners point to the continuing socio-economic problems that have their roots in the colonial era. They argue that the present-day underdevelopment of the Caribbean is a direct and lasting legacy of the slavery trade, and descendants of enslaved Africans should be compensated for present-day injustices, rather than historical suffering. That the legal case will be difficult to establish is in no doubt; the moral case, however, is less easy to dismiss โ€“ especially when the nations of the former colonisers owe their present prosperity to, and are still benefiting from wealth accumulated from the slave trade and slavery. Though whites in the Caribbean represent a minority, they own most of the wealth.

    Most of the largest businesses are owned by families who amassed huge fortunes from plantation slavery and, when slavery was abolished, from the compensation paid to them by the British government for the loss of their human property.

    By contrast, not a single enslaved man, woman or child received even a penny for the backbreaking toil they endured almost every day of their lives, or for the loss of mothers and fathers, children, brothers and sisters caused by the callous separation of families. There was no compensation for the pernicious brutality exacted against them, or for the violent sexual assaults on enslaved women.

    Even today, international trade agreements lock the region into disadvantageous western-imposed tariffs that stifle economic growth. Yet many people across the region harbour ambivalence and antipathy to the idea of reparations. Doing my own mini-research, I am struck by how many reject reparations through what I interpret as a deep sense of shame. It seems people are still coming to terms with a history of enslavement, and many would rather the topic wasn’t discussed.

    I am reminded of this whenever I visit any of the Jacobean and Georgian-era great houses that are dotted around Barbados. Their foundations were literally built on slavery. Tour guides will wax lyrical about the gracious lifestyles led by the planter families who lived in them. But there is rarely any mention of the armies of enslaved peoples whose forced labour made such living possible, and who are all too often erased from these histories. It is as if islanders attach greater shame to being the descendants of enslaved peoples than the owners of these houses attach to having been the holders of human property.

    For me, as a descendant of African forebears stolen from their homelands and forcibly transported to Barbados, the issue of reparations is deeply personal. I am semi-resigned to the fact I will probably never know the African family names of my fore-parents. The family names I carry (Forde on my father’s side and Griffiths on my mother’s) derive not from any African ancestors, but were almost certainly imposed by a now-anonymous slaveholder.”

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