The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – “…The Ball That Shot Nelson”

Nelson Statue Located In Heroes Square Barbados

“…As a symbol of white supremacy and slavery it was meant to send a message. But it also represented an excessive and brutal abuse of parliamentary power…” – Sir Hilary Beckles on the 1813 erection of the statue of Lord Nelson in Heroes Square, Bridgetown.

Readers of a certain age may well recall the Barbadian saying from one or two generations ago, usually expressed in the vernacular, “He or she goin’ ha’ to show me the ball that shoot Nelson”. As I recall it, it was uttered in the form of a threat, implying that there would be hell to pay if the absent object of the admonition did not achieve a task that I imagined many thought impossible or at least impractical, by giving a satisfactory excuse for their perceived indiscretion. As I have recently discovered however, the very ball that shot Admiral Nelson still does in fact exist, even though it probably remains as inaccessible as once thought.

According to the Royal Collection trust website –>-, a single lead shot or musket ball, about 15mm in diameter and weighing about 22 grammes, mounted with some remnants of gold lace from Admiral Nelson’s uniform lies beneath glass in a hinged silver locket with a gilt metal rope work border and suspension loop and forms part of the royal collection. The family of Dr William Beatty, the surgeon who removed it from the fatal wound after the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805, gifted it to Queen Victoria in 1842.

The recent initiatives in the US to remove historical monuments and place names from buildings that memorialize the Confederacy might have contributed to a local self-examination in that regard and once again caused us to reconsider the incongruous and prominent siting of the statue of Lord Nelson in what has been renamed Heroes Square. This discourse, as those relating to a capital punishment, the corporal punishment of children, the buggery laws, is prone to erupt periodically, to fret a fitful hour in the public domain and then disappear without any concrete action being taken by officialdom. It is as if the national conversation is enough in itself, a therapy for local public ennui.

The most recent attempt to reintroduce debate on this matter came last Sunday with the publication in the Barbados Advocate, (and during the week in another section of the print press), of a closely reasoned and cogently argued letter penned by Sir Hilary Beckles, Vice Chancellor of the University of the West Indies, under the caption, “Why Nelson must fall”. Will this counterblast prove to be the local ball that shot Nelson?

In his letter, Sir Hilary makes the point that while generally nations that claim their ideological roots in the democratic struggles of the working class have opposed publicly revering persons and their accomplices known to have committed crimes against humanity, and while their governments seek to avoid using their considerable moral and legal state power to normalize the acceptance of such crimes within the community of victims, Barbados may be considered deviant or a pariah in this regard, given the central prominence in the public square of the monument the of Lord Nelson who he deems a “vile racist white supremacist who despised black people and dedicated his political and military life to the cause of protecting Britain’s criminal possession of the 800, 000 enslaved Africans during his lifetime”. He asserts further that this “blunt brutality of state power” as he sees it, is considered criminal in some quarters.

For him, the continued presence of the statue is “a persistent violent imposition upon the mind of every right-thinking democratic citizen and he turns on its head the familiar justificatory canard that English tourists will stop coming to Barbados to Barbados in the numbers we expect if the statue is removed.

Sir Hilary argues to the contrary that our English tourists are mostly educated and informed people who would feel more relaxed in Barbados if we appear “more dignified and less bowed”.

Unsurprisingly, as it is here with most matters that relate to the intellect solely and not to scurrilous gossip, to hints of scandal or to partisan political issues, the subsequent populist response has been underwhelming to say the least. To my best knowledge, the issue was not broached on either of the daily talk-shows during the past week, there has been as yet no column or letter to the Editor of either print newspaper on the subject, neither of the two historians whose names he mentioned in the letter has responded, and a perusal of some of the published individual comments to the letter on the other newspaper’s blog evidences a largely popular lack of concern about the issue.

One commentator agrees that the statue should not be there, but also argues that given “the many problems which are chocking (sic) Barbados, now is not the time for talking about its removal. Another queries rhetorically whether Nelson was not part of our history and if yes, why are we trying to erase history? For him or her, we would be more “constructive and productive” if we were to focus on the pressing issues. And of course, there is the not unexpected uninformed comment that Sir Hilary had absolutely no problem with accepting a knighthood “based upon the same English imperial honours system which rewarded Nelson for his accomplishments”. The writer further expresses the hope that on the same day that Nelson is removed, that Sir Hilary Beckles will “renounce and return his knighthood to the appropriate authorities”. This newspaper adverted to this regrettable confusion in a recent editorial, a confusion wrought primarily by the odd insistence on titling one of our highest national honours after a middling English honorific, even if in a different and local Order.

Some of this populist thinking mirrors that in the US, where some argue that the Confederate monuments are “a reminder of what the country had to go through to become whole again” and that it is important to save these monuments for future generations to see and learn about them …” Others ask, “Why are we looking back? Why are they wanting to remove our history? Isn’t this what the Taliban and ISIS have done? This is not a race war. It is about securing our country’s history as it is…”

To be continued…


  • ZOE

    The Science you cite, though accurate, is way over the heads of the average BU poster,


  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Look Lawson, we are going to lock up each and every one of you, get ya out of society, yall been soiling up our earth for centuries, much too long….yall are good for nothing terrorists.

    “Three alleged neo-Nazis, including two British soldiers, have appeared in court accused of joining a terrorist group.

    Lance Corporal Mikko Vehvilainen, Private Mark Barrett and Alexander Deakin, a civilian, stand accused of being members of National Action.

    It became the first far-right group prohibited by the UK last year because of its “virulently racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic” ideology.

    The trio appeared at the Central Criminal Court via video-link for a preliminary hearing on Thursday.

    Vehvilainen appeared alone from HMP Belmarsh, while his co-defendants appeared together from Winchester prison.

    Vehvilainen, Barrett and Deakin are accused of being part of a chat group where racist messages were exchanged, including plans for a white-only Britain and race war.”


  • @ Chad
    Boss, as an aside…if you know more about Physics that Bushie does, then you are indeed a genius…

    You are missing the point.
    …which is that ‘education’ in its true form, goes WAY BEYOND (as Zoe puts it) knowing that what is, is …and that what is not, is not…
    That is what physics is all about – understanding and quantifying the EXISTING laws of nature.

    EDUCATION is about understanding and internalising the REASON that these laws exists and the INTENT that drives the construct called ‘life on Earth’ … which is sustained BY THESE Laws.
    In sum, the ‘Physics’ is in place to support and sustain something of GREATER IMPORT.

    You do not go to school just to learn about how the school administration works.. IN AND OF ITSELF – although it is useful to know the inner workings of the system.

    Physics tells us HOW our physical world is administered…..
    “Education” (which is what Zoe is attempting to champion) would delve into the PURPOSE it exists in the first place….and the strategic INTENT behind its coming into being….

    If this is too high for your albino-centric orientation please let the bushman know… LOL


  • All humans today have virtually identical DNA, indicating a recent population bottleneck. New (Jan 2013) genetic analysis found “recent explosive population growth”, “suggesting that many mutations arose recently”, which “arose in the past 5,000 to 10,000 years”.

    An explosion in population requires an explosion in Agriculture … mouths need to be fed.

    Follow the spread of agriculture and you will follow the population explosion, and it does not seem to originate in Africa if the archaeological evidence is to be believed.


  • @GP

    Not really, it always comes back to faith and the unbelievers. We have to accept /respect that some people do not ‘beleive’.


  • Bush Tea

    Obviously, you have a nice pension.

    While you are navel-gazing ( i.e., pondering unanswerable Why questions), the rest of us are focused on the trivial stuff, such as the struggle to find the food we need to survive and prosper. That’s why we are interested in Physics and other such subjects.


  • @ David
    That is a cop-out used by the ‘intellectually challenged’ of the Chad variety…. ( i.e. academically brilliant, but in REALITY, quite clueless.)

    The point REALLY is about BASIC EDUCATION, in its REAL sense.
    The ‘science’ that GP and Zoe champions is at the level of “existential strategic intent” and of absolute values.
    As GP rightly posits, this ‘science’ is WAY above the heads of those whose focus is limited to the (intricate and interesting though it is) Physics and Biology that is EMPLOYED PURELY to sustain the CLASSROOM in which real ‘science’ (Bushie has been saying ‘education’) is intended to be taught….

    What ‘Faith’ what…. that was back then when we were clueless…. or for the uninitiated now…

    BUT in our modern enlightened world, interest in this ‘education’ (or GP’s science) SHOULD be THE matter of utmost concern for all brass bowls…

    …except that brass bowls will be brass bowls…even in the face of a collapse of the ‘Physics and Biology to which we had become accustomed in the form of chaotic world events…)


  • @ Chad
    …the rest of us are focused on the trivial stuff, such as the struggle to find the food we need to survive and prosper.
    The VERY same can be said of basic, instinct-driven animals in the wild.

    If you are comparing your strategic purpose in life to that of the troop of neighbours living in the gully next door to Bushie, ….then to call you a ‘brass bowl’ may indeed a compliment…

    You may wish to retract and rethink that retort….

    ..and it is not the pension that counts in Bushie’s case.
    It is the rich Step-father… and the whacker.


  • Re David September 21, 2017 at 11:24 AM #
    Not really, it always comes back to faith and the unbelievers. We have to accept /respect that some people do not ‘beleive’.

    The Science {Genetics} Zoe cites is indeed accurate, and way over the heads of the average BU poster,

    I admire Zoe’s brave attempt on BU to follow Christ” command in Mathew 28 referred to by evangelicals as the Great Commission

    Unlike him, however, I will no longer engage Bible illiterates on Biblical issues on BU. It is a waste of time. The unbelievers can continue to refuse to believe. It is their right.

    It is also the right of the Master, at His soon coming “To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him,” as is clearly taught in Jude 15


  • Science and the Bible

    Truth from science must in the long run agree with Biblical revelation-if the Bible is true. If the Bible “says what it means and means what it says” (to quote Chuck Missler) then it is Jesus who holds the universe in his hands just as the old American folk spiritual says.

    Our moment-by-moment existence depends on His gracious sustenance of every electron, every atom, every molecule and every spiritual entity as well. We are safe when we place our trust in Him and put our whole lives into His hands! Can we not then stand in awe of our great God and Creator, along with the Psalmist who wrote:

    “O come, let us sing to the LORD; let us make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation! Let us come into his presence with thanksgiving; let us make a joyful noise to him with songs of praise! For the LORD is a great God, and a great King above all gods. In his hand are the depths of the earth; the heights of the mountains are his also. The sea is his, for he made it; for his hands formed the dry land. O come, let us worship and bow down, let us kneel before the LORD, our Maker! For he is our God, and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. O that today you would hearken to his voice!” Psalm 95:1-7


  • Chad9999,

    Yes physics and mathematics are challenging , but relatively straightforward for those who have a feel for it. Do you know what it takes to qualify as a neurosurgeon , or better, a pediatric neurosurgeon?

    Question, why is it that the default position of the our black brothers and sisters the world over, whether intellectual or the opposite, a race baiting one, no matter what the issue? Are we going to continue this nonsense for another 300 years ?


  • What is very very clear to me that many have forgotten, or did not understand then, or now, the words of this hymn which was taught in primary school….

    Lord, I would own Thy tender care,
    And all Thy love to me;
    The food I eat, the clothes I wear,
    Are all bestowed by Thee.

    ’Tis Thou preservest me from death
    And dangers every hour;
    I cannot draw another breath
    Unless Thou give me power.

    Kind angels guard me every night,
    As round my bed they stay:
    Nor am I absent from Thy sight
    In darkness or by day.

    My health, and friends, and parents dear,
    To me by God are giv’n;
    I have not any blessing here
    But what is sent from Heav’n.

    Such goodness, Lord, and constant care
    I never can repay;
    But may it be my daily prayer,
    To love Thee and obey.


  • Ph.D September 21, 2017 at 1:05 PM
    re Do you know what it takes to qualify as a neurosurgeon , or better, a pediatric neurosurgeon?

    can you please kindly enlighten us as to what it takes to qualify as a neurosurgeon , or better, a pediatric neurosurgeon?


  • @ Georgie Porgie September 21, 2017 at 10:09 AM
    The Science you cite, though accurate, is way over the heads of the average BU poster…”

    You got that one right!

    Doctors like you GP used to promote that the smoking of cigarettes was good for your health and contributed to male virility.

    If you wish to call that fictitious archaeology based on a set of Jewish myths plagiarized from much earlier Sumerian, Babylonian and Egyptian fables a science, then so be it.

    But let us point out that the “science” both you and Zoe subscribe to is ‘explicitly’ denying the physical (not mythological) existence of dinosaurs on the planet called Earth or Gaia.

    The evidence produced by palaeontological investigation and analysis supports the real science that dinosaurs did indeed exist and roamed the planet in its past clearly much earlier that the time period in which the Adam & Eve story set in a biblical stone of fiction.

    We, for the life of Imhotep, cannot come to grips with your support of Zoe’s belief that the dinosaurs were in that mythical garden of Eden- along with snow-loving polar bears, walruses and wooly mammoths, sabre-tooth tigers, komodo dragons, koala (bears), jumping kangaroos, flightless kiwi birds and the poor old silly dodo- all of which exited the garden and took the first ‘plane’ out to jump on Noah’s ship of safety so large as to make the Queen Mary 2 to look like a mini-Moses bobbing on the water in the Graeme Hall swamp at high tide and being observed by Quaker John the Baptist in his tireless compilation of their nomenclature.


  • mr miller
    i refer you to Proverbs 26:3-5

    A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool’s back.
    4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
    5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
    which type of fool are you

    It i very clear to me that you are a descendant of the son brought to Jesus as recorded in Mathew 17 who was described thus

    Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick,


  • Georgie Porgie:

    Chad 99999 mentioned physics and mathematics at Ph.D level as the two most challenging scientific disciplines. I merely added another , neurosurgery. Why did you not ask me to enlighten you on mathematics and physics ? Since you are the doctor , would it not be better for you to do that , or maybe Paul Steinbok would be a more qualified person .
    I have no time with petty foolishness.


  • SIR


  • There is a third option…

    He WON’T….
    ha ha ha







  • Roll Call

    When the roll is called up yonder


  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    Lord have mercy! The inimitable rogue – GP – is back on BU flaying to the boundary his old nemesis, the cart horse Miller – murdah! Welcome back GP.


  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson look…at least my Justin is all man, he can address the injustices that you squatters think was so right and that all so arrogant about…

    “© Provided by
    UNITED NATIONS, N.Y. – Prime Minister Justin Trudeau used a speech to the United Nations on Thursday to probe a source of national shame: the historic struggles of Canada’s Indigenous peoples.

    He spoke of forced migration and forced family separation in residential schools, which he said left a devastating legacy on reserves to this day.

    He said Canada came to exist without the consent and participation of the Indigenous populations who had lived there for millenniums.

    “For Indigenous peoples in Canada, the experience was mostly one of humiliation, neglect and abuse,” he said.

    It was the major theme of his address, which did not gloss over the country’s failures and even referred to the international condemnation they have drawn.

    But he also looked ahead to at a series of solutions: better infrastructure on reserves, better housing, signing of the UN Declaration on Indigenous Peoples and a dismantling of the old Indian Affairs department.

    “Canada remains a work in progress,” he said. “For all the mistakes we’ve made, we remain hopeful.”

    Trudeau used these examples to bolster his main point here at the UN this week: that Canada is ready to take on complex challenges, at home and abroad, and deserves a seat on the Security Council.

    The rest of the speech focused on climate change, international trade rules aimed at helping workers and his controversial tax reform which he cited as an example of his middle-class-friendly policies.

    Trudeau drew applause when he promised to keep supporting the international climate-change treaty.

    “There is no country on the planet that can walk away from the challenge and reality of climate change.” he said.

    He also promised to stick to his efforts to empower women and girls.”


  • GP, your description of me implies an unquestionable finality, yet you know absolutely zero about me. An absolute statement , back by zero evidence.
    I will say this, I am not one of your first year students that you can demand in your arrogance, any response or answers , concerning anything , period.

    My first post merely mentioned the challenges of the three disciplines. Whether they are physically, intellectually or a combination when trying to achieve the highest qualifications, is inconsequential .Your last post is to some degree contradictory.
    I will refer you to your own post earlier, and ask the same question, which kind of fool are you ? Case closed.


  • re I am not one of your first year students



    re My first post merely mentioned the challenges of the three disciplines.




    those who enjoyed dissection in Anatomy classes tend to be surgeons
    the intellectual fellows tend to be Neurologist, and engage in long talk on ward rounds because essentially they could very little for the pathology they encountered


  • the intellectual fellows tend to be Neurologist, and engage in long talk on ward rounds because essentially they could DO very little for the pathology they encountered
    they used to bore me to death


  • When learning Neuroanatomy today you can refer to any of the great atlases or the modern three dimensional models including tho you can dismantle and put back up

    when dealing with would be intellectual wannabe’ on BU you have to wander at the number of folk who just bullshit without adding anything to the flow of the discussion.

    if you ask them a simple question they respond with concentrated bovine effluent
    It defeats the whole purpose


  • There will never be another blogger like GP…. Not on BU, not anywhere… the man is like a razor….
    Bushie can only imagine how GP would perform WONDERS in the Barbados Parliament…?
    LOL …shiite would be always hitting the fan….

    HOWEVER, in his above slicing up of PhD, he managed to sidetrack the conversation and to potentially save Chad99999 from a much-more-deserved slicing-up compliments of the old whacker…

    Chad has to surely come to the realisation that the kind of measures that he is using to gauge ‘educational achievement’ are nothing but the equivalent of measuring the extent to which a student understands the internal school rules and regulations.

    Whether we are talking Physicist, neurosurgeons, neurologists or just plain brass bowl BU bloggers, they are ALL just tinkering with internal school rules, structures and regulations, which – in the final analysis – are only there in order to support school life….so as to prepare students FOR A BIGGER CAUSE – namely, life AFTER SCHOOL.

    Imagine if PLT had spent all his time at HC learning all the (admittedly fascinating) details about alumni, founding fathers, school rules, finances, canteen menus and septic systems…?

    …actually Bushie could name a few HC alumni whose expertise seem to be in “HC septic systems” – otherwise known as High Class shiite.. (Hint … Joh* – N..ow comes to mind) 🙂

    This is what Chad is advocating with respect to the School Of Life ….. that brass bowls measure their progress by the extent to which they know school rules physics, biology and mathematics …and neurology…

    What the hell wunna going do when wunna graduate…..??????


  • Miller, There is NO way that such SOFT TISSUE as found in Dinosaur fossil bones, could be 80 Million years old. Utter Evolutionary GORILLA CRAP!

    All of such findings, which they have tried to keep quiet about, as IT POINTS to the Creation model of TIME, THOUSANDS of YEARS 5,000 – 10,000 NOT MILLIONS Miller-Naki!

    Dinosaur soft tissue
    In seeming desperation, evolutionists turn to iron to preserve the idea of millions of years.

    M. Schweitzer Dinosaur-bone-cells
    Bone cells discovered by Schweitzer, showing classic appearances including nuclei and connecting fibrils—from a Brachylophosaurus allegedly 80 million years old!
    by Calvin Smith1

    Published: 28 January 2014 (GMT+10)

    Dinosaur soft tissue in fossil bones!? Nearly every CMI speaker has watched incredulous looks on people’s faces as pictures from a 2005 Science magazine article flash on-screen. These show transparent, branching flexible blood vessels and red blood cells alongside soft and stretchy ligaments from a supposedly 68 million-year-old T.rex bone. The remarkable discoveries by palaeontologist Dr Mary Schweitzer have rocked the scientific world.

    Time and time again

    Following the most rigorous tests and checking of data, many evolutionists now admit the existence of such dinosaur soft tissue and organic material in not just one or two specimens, but well over thirty.2 They now have to explain how extremely delicate structures could have been preserved over incredibly vast time periods.

    Following the most rigorous tests and checking of data, many evolutionists now admit the existence of such dinosaur soft tissue and organic material in not just one or two specimens, but well over thirty.

    It is not just dinosaur soft tissue, either, but the presence of detectable proteins such as collagen, hemoglobin, osteocalcin,3,4 actin, and tubulin that they must account for. These are complex molecules that continually tend to break down to simpler ones.

    Not only that, but in many cases, there are fine details of the bone matrix, with microscopically intact-looking bone cells (osteocytes) showing incredible detail. And Schweitzer has even recovered fragments of the even more fragile and complex molecule, DNA. This has been extracted from the bone cells with markers indicating its source such that it is extremely likely to be dinosaur DNA.5

    Others have reported the fast-decaying carbon-14 from dino bones—not a single atom should be left after 1 million years.6

    Moreover, more recent discoveries show dinosaur soft tissue in samples that are (by their own assumptions) many millions of years older than those in Dr Schweitzer’s original 2005 discovery. As one article states:

    “The researchers also analyzed other fossils for the presence of soft tissue, and found it was present in about half of their samples going back to the Jurassic Period, which lasted from 145.5 million to 199.6 million years ago…”7

    A huge problem for the evolutionary paradigm

    Believing proteins could last for tens of millions of years takes enormous faith. According to a report in the science journal The Biochemist, even if collagen were stored at 0°C, it would not be expected to last even three million years.8 But such is the power of the evolutionary paradigm that many choose to believe the seemingly impossible rather than accept the obvious implication, that the samples are not as old as they say.


  • Most of us missed the boat at school in many ways.

    I told my sons that it was important for them to make friends at school and not enemies, because in the future you will meet your school mates in all walks of life afterwards

    i told them the purpose of home work and house duties is not about grades but about learning to divide up your time properly and to prioritize.

    I taught them how to use the due date on a credit card when purchasing and paying, so that they could use the banks money for two months and dont pay interest. My first son used this ploy for 5 years in canada and angered his bank managers no end

    The purpose for learning anything is to be able to use it practically. I taught them the use of a lever and the inclined plane etc long before they did common entrance, and how you can ue Phythagarus to square a building when setting out the foundations.

    If we were taught the purpose for the things we were taught or how they could be used, a lot of duncy boys would have been real bright, ya hear

    We used to think Darcy was real bright because he used to get all A’s in every subject every term. Darcy turn out to be a…………………………?


  • @Anonymice – Theophilus Gazerts September 20, 2017 at 9:39 PM “I guess my prayers were not answered…. Zoe is back”

    I second that.


  • WW your boyfiend is a putz thank god he and his dike premier friend will be gone before they give the country away and tax the middle class to death. Do you really think our new immigrants give a darn about how rough the injuns have had it. My Rwandan cab driver last night had a much sadder story and was surprised that canadians think they have it bad.


  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson….ah saw ya girlfriend Kathy Wynne suing somebody for insulting her.

    Everyone thinks they have it bad until they hear the other dudes story…but none can whine like the quebecois, not even you…they should be starved.


  • The Public ragged schools… Warren Alleyne

    The Schools that were conducted in Barbados for the benefit of the ragged children during the latter 1800s owed their existence entirely to charitably disposed private citizens.


  • it is written in 2 tim 2 :19 et secq
    Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
    20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
    21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master’s use, and prepared unto every good work.
    22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
    23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
    24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
    25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
    26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.


  • Kind of untrue Vincent, they are pretty sure they found the bones of the high priest that was involved in Jesus’s arrest.


  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson look…the thieves are going into African countries that yall love to say are so poor…

    ,….according to the orange retard at the UN, trying to enrich themselves,….African leaders are being warned to deport them…cause since when does anyone go into poor countries trying to get rich.

    “I have so many friends going to your countries, trying to get rich.” – President Trump to African leaders at the UN.
    Africans should be very worried of his friends.”


  • Boy sometimes you can be pretty short sighted, he said that so a lot of you will rush back home to be ahead of the curve and more will stay in africa thinking its gonna get good and stop trying to sneak into the US. Your prime minister is coming to party in ottawa sunday…. maybe checking out some new digs…..houses in ottawa are reasonably cheap the average price is about 3 duffel bags


  • @ Zoe September 21, 2017 at 9:16 PM #
    “Miller, There is NO way that such SOFT TISSUE as found in Dinosaur fossil bones, could be 80 Million years old. Utter Evolutionary GORILLA CRAP!
    All of such findings, which they have tried to keep quiet about, as IT POINTS to the Creation model of TIME, THOUSANDS of YEARS 5,000 – 10,000 NOT MILLIONS Miller-Naki!”

    For you, Zoe, to accept that pseudo-scientific crater of volcanic lies aka Judeo-Christian fundamentalist claptrap is only proving you to be a complete jackass which has just been swallowed, entirely, by a python of a serpent still hiding in the dark waters of the Euphrates river flowing through the garden of Eden.

    For you to believe in that 5,000 – 10,000 year lifespan of the planet Earth you must also believe that the Sun is just about 5,000 years plus 1 day to 10,000 years plus 6 days in its starry ‘twin’ existence in the universe made up of billions of billions of brotherly stars and zillions of sisterly planets.

    One can only conclude from your wildly wide (mis)calculations that since our Father Sun takes about 25,900 or so Earth orbiting years in its ‘annual’ trek across our Milky Way it’s just about a third of its way from Mother Mary’s womb.

    Baby Jesus, please save Prof. Zoe and his friend Dr. G P from a hellhole of total insanity!


  • Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    Ottawa is just good for retirement after losing an election.

    Lawson, no one listens to the dotard trump, its pronounced doeturd, everyone wants to be in the west when he either resigns in shame and disgrace, is impeached in shame and disgrace or is handcuffed in shame in disgrace, half of the African continent is likely to travel for the event….


  • Ha no-one listens to trump wrong, sounds like yogi berra’s …nobody goes to that restaurant..they dont like to stand in line.


  • @Miller/Naki, You are in terrible DARKNESS, as the Word of God declares to those of your ilk, “….If therefore the light that is IN* you IS* DARKNESS, how GREAT is that DARKNESS>” (Matt. 6: 23b)

    He ( Jesus) that Created ALL things, IS* the LIGHT of this world!

    “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ALL THINGS were made through Him, and without Him NOTHING was made that WAS MADE. In Him was LIFE and the life was the LIGHT of men. And the LIGHT shines in the DARKNESS, and the DARKNESS (Miller & Co) DID ( DOES NOT) comprehend it.” (John 1: 1,3,4,5)

    Miller/Chimp, Jesus HOLDS the Sun He Created in the palm of His HAND, like an ATOM. And IN* Him through the Word of His Omnipotent Power, the ENTIRE Universe IS* HELD Together.

    Miller/Chimp YOU CANNOT begin to comprehend such ETERNAL OMNIPOTENCE!

    Our steady sun: a problem for billions of years
    by Jonathan Sarfati

    All living things on the earth ultimately obtain their energy from the sun, as do the wind and water cycles. And nuclear reactions power the sun. In theory, as its nuclear fuel ‘burns’ up, the sun’s core should shrink, and this would make the reactions occur more readily. Therefore, the sun should shine more brightly as it ages (see panel below).

    But this means that if billions of years were true, the sun would have been much fainter in the past. However, there is no evidence that the sun was fainter at any time in the earth’s history. Astronomers call this the ‘faint young sun paradox’, but it is no paradox at all if the sun is only as old as the Bible says—about 6,000 years.

    Evolutionists and long-agers believe that life appeared on the earth about 3.8 billion years ago. But if that timescale were true, the sun would be 25% brighter today than it was back then. This implies that the earth would have been frozen at an average temperature of –3ºC. However, most paleontologists believe that, if anything, the earth was warmer in the past.1 The only way around this is to make arbitrary and unrealistic assumptions of a far greater greenhouse effect at that time than exists today,2 with about 1,000 times more CO2 in the atmosphere than there is today.3

    The scientific evidence is consistent with the sun having the age that we would expect from a straightforward reading of the Bible. In 6,000 years or so, there would have been no significant increase in energy output from the sun. It is a problem only for old-age ideas

    Evolutionists assume that the sun’s core has 4.5 billion years’ worth of helium, but this has not been directly observed. In any case, even if there was a large amount of helium, the record shows that the sun was never faint. Rather, if the core contained lots of helium it would be a design feature so that the sun would be hot enough. It may also be responsible for the sun’s exceptional stability compared to that of other stars of the same spectral class—see Sarfati,


  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson….ya would have to be a bigger jackass than dotard trump to listen to him, so let me rephrase, no one with an iQ above 17 listens to trump,


  • “Britain’s best known naval hero – so idealised that after his death in 1805 he was compared to no less than ‘the God who made him’ – used his seat in the House of Lords and his position of huge influence to perpetuate the tyranny, serial rape and exploitation organised by West Indian planters, some of whom he counted among his closest friends.

    “It is figures like Nelson who immediately spring to mind when I hear the latest news of confederate statues being pulled down in the US.”

    Afua Hirsch , Guardian Newspaper.

    Speaking on Sky News, Afua added: “He( Lord Nelson) believed that black people were inferior, that they belong on plantations working under conditions of torture and exploitation and he used his incredible position of influence to try and prolong that situation…”

    Afua Hirsch coments has sparked outrage in Britain after calling for Nelson’s Column to be removed – and branding the Naval commander a “white supremacist”.

    Afua Hirsch said the monument in London’s Trafalgar Square should be torn down because the Admiral “defended slavery”.

    The article was met with fury by Londoners and tourists who described the call as an “insult to our history”.

    Twitter user Andrew Graham said: “Toppling statues? Nelson’s column should be next.” These days someone’s offended by everything… #RewriteHistory”.

    Russell Lloyd added: “Tear down Nelson’s Column, what an insult, it’s part of our history, where in the world do these pathetic idiots come from?”

    Chris McGovern, o‎f the Campaign for Real Education, said: “Statues and monuments provide the landmarks of our past that define our national identity whether we approve of it or not.

    “They should be protected and in many cases revered. ‘Pulling them down polarises society and leads to violence and social breakdown.

    British critical of racism in America but still support white supremacy .


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