Prime Minister Stuart Deigns to Speak

Will Prime Minister Freundel Stuart

This week the Prime Minister of Barbados Freundel Stuart deign to address an issue which has been of concern to many Barbadians. It is an open secret David Comissiong’s challenge  of the decision to grant approval to Mark Maloney of Vision Development Inc to build the Hyatt Centric Resort on Bay Street reported to cost USD100 million has rubbed the Barbados government the wrong way. Minister Denis Kellman has declared Comissiong an enemy of the state. Minister Donville Inniss has dived in with his usual rhetoric by stating he would, if he had the time, stand in protest outside  David Comissiong’s place of work. It is ironic to note that our laws support Kellman’s labelling of Comissiong as an enemy of the statement as well as Inniss’ bluster to protest outside Comissiong’s office.

Prime Minister Stuart’s response to the Hyatt issue is interesting. He seems to be of the view that citizen advocate David Comissiong’s application for a judicial review is not supported by the law. We say to Stuart if he believes such is the case why not let the Court decide where the matter has been delayed a hearing because of the unavailability of the judge?  In the matter of Michael Carrington withholding clients funds from a client your response was to advise him to seek redress in the form of acquiring legal counsel. Why not be consistent and allow the legal apparatus to work for Comissiong who has followed the advice you gave to Michael Carrington who stole- or more euphemistically- withheld $244,000 dollars from a wheelchair bound septuagenarian?

BU’s position is a matter of public record. The attack on citizen advocate David Comissiong’s right to access the laws of Barbados by members of the Cabinet of Barbados is the issue BU will steadfastly defend.  In fact, we go further to question why the large cadre of lawyers registered to operate in Barbados have up to now avoided the opportunity their training affords them to be ideal citizen advocates. In a democracy it is critical for citizens to organize to pressure the “establishment” and to date the legal fraternity has been delinquent as a group.

The position prime minster Stuart has taken to question the legal grounding of Comissiong’s judicial review application was made the more interesting by a recent decision handed down by Privy Council  of England in the matter originating from Trinidad & Tobago Reginald Dumas v Police Service Commission on the right of the High Court to hear an application by a citizen to interpret a provision of the Constitution. The gist of the Privy Council’s decision is that there is merit under the law to entertain an application from a citizen if it was deemed in the public interest.

What does the Barbados law support Mr. Prime Minister?

We note that you have not quoted any law to support your position and until you do it will be punished with laughter by onlookers. It must gnaw at your innards that Comissiong wrestled the amendment to the Immigration (Biometrics) Regulation 2015 to the ground and he now has the Hyatt project in his sight. The pressure you and members of the government must be absorbing from those who are demanding a return on the 2013 campaign financing contribution must dig deep.

Here is the link to the Reginald Dumas v Police Service Commission report – Appointments to Police Service Commission …DUMAS WINS AT PRIVY COUNCIL

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  • Thanks for the link Enuff.

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  • Vincent Haynes

    In fact, we go further to question why the large cadre of lawyers registered to operate in Barbados have up to now avoided the opportunity their training affords them to be ideal citizen advocates. In a democracy it is critical for citizens to organize to pressure the “establishment” and to date the legal fraternity has been delinquent as a group.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    The lack of citizen advocates posited above speaks to the greater issue of greed and the crab in the barrel mentality of Bimmers.

    …..only money talks and my degree is not for the likes of you.

    …..despite many cries of how christian Bimmers are with loads of praying,shouting and annointing…..go figure.

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  • What is scary for the BU household is to listen to talk show moderators like David Ellis, Dennis Johnson and the most strident of all Glyne Murray fulsome in their support of the building of the Hyatt hotel, a project clouded by serious issues read environmental concerns, lack of due process if we are guided by the draft physical development plan and of course the the financiers behind the veil with a general election on the horizon.

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  • Vincent Haynes

    Barbados needs a review of its tourism plan with consideration to be given to the new kid on the block Airbnb,the many disused plants around the island to get them up and running,conform to the environmental request to cease building by the shore before any thought be given to a fresh construction especially when Paradise is available.

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  • Vincent do you live in Barbados? For the Barbados economy to fire other sectors along with tourism must contribute significantly. Airbnb what!

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    No one trusts lawuers in Barbados, because you only find a few who are willing to stand up for citizens’ rights, the belief is all the others would sell their mothers and every bajan on the island for the not so mighty dollar.

    It’s a disgrace and embarrassment to hear people inside and outside of Barbado, particularly Nirth America and Europe speak about lawyers on the island.

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  • CUP.Violet Beckles Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZI

    No Rule of law in Barbados and your Prime Minister is a top crook on the island, Anything to buy votes with a building no one needs. Your PM will pull anything at any time waving food in front of hungry people that he created, Its would have been better to finish the FOURSEASONS THAT has no clear title with NIS crooked from the people account,200+ Million?,, It would be better to finish the Sam Lords also no clear title, A QUICK Burn and Collect JOB,,, better yet to run water to all people of Barbados, or get back to return tax credit, or tax returns, or pot holes, or 10 million he stole from the QEH to fix up DLP party house, maybe it would be better if the PM and the MOF did not mess with Red Jet, maybe it would be better if he got Sir COW to fix the roads which he was overpaid to fix in the first place.
    there are so many other things to fix in Barbados for them to do this just for votes that will help a few people, this must be the return of Cahill 700 million fRAUD WHERE THE price kept dropping to 500 million? where did the other 200million went? in the pricing, PIMPs and hookers running Barbados out of business its time we run the pimps and hooker off the island,
    Time for the DBLP to go, Vote CUP / BFP

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  • Vincent Haynes

    David

    For crying out loud….try to comprehend what you have read.

    My post uses three key words ….Review….Plan….consideration…..open your eyes to the potential of Airbnb and stop being myopic like this and previous govts.

    I agree that other sectors must fire,I have been a proponent of that for some time.

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  • Will a fourteen-floor hotel ever have more than 60% occupancy? What’s wrong with seven floors of high quality service that fits much better against our skyline?

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  • Jeff Cumberbatch

    “We note that you have not quoted any law to support your position and until you do it will be punished with laughter by onlookers”.

    @David, To be fair, you do realize of course that the PM did not himself state his defense in public. It was Mr Comissiong who did so. In such circumstances he could not have cited any law to support his claim and since the matter will not be determined by public discourse, I doubt very much that he would have.

    Incidentally, my column for tomorrow is on the issue of public interest litigation and the citizen.

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  • @Jeff

    Incidentally, my column for tomorrow is on the issue of public interest litigation and the citizen.

    Yes read it with great interest. Of course BU’s article takes a political blog slant compared to your scholarly piece.

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  • Jeff Cumberbatch

    Of course, David. The respective points may be closer than you think!

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  • Ill say it again for the umpteenth time: Let the construction of the Hyatt begin forthwith. Bulldoze those dilapidated building on Lwr Bay Street too. Thank you!

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  • @Kevin

    pssst, haven’t you heard? An application for judicial review was made to the court. Unfortunately the judge rostered to hear the case is on vacation.

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  • Kevin man hush do!! Stop eliding the idea of a hotel in Bridgetown/on that site with the process and the project. There are not the same!!!

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  • Montenegro Historic Town is at risk of losing its UNESCO Status.The town’s mayor when asked why is quoted as saying the ‘reckless construction is as a result of bribery and nepotism.That construction was initiated by privileged families and advisers despite experts advising against it.’…..doesn’t it sound very,very familiar?

    http://www.voanews.com/embed/player/Article/3847263.html?
    type=video&FullScreenMode=True

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  • Privileged families and individuals……….

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  • The plot of land designated for this project cannot hold a 15 storied hotel……….what kind of jackasses are we dealing with?

    Why is it that every project Maloney has undertaken has been on our…….the taxpayers land. Has he ever paid for any of the land?

    ……………Coverley where 1000 houses were to have been built on our land,

    …………Bushy Park which is still under dispute and which this moronic government has not paid the owner for but yet has given the area where the race track is but also allegedly 2700 other lots,

    ……..Hard Rock Cement sits on land at the Port.,

    And now the Hyatt………..Ronald Toppin asked the minister what is the position with this land as the land is vested in the BTII and not a word from Sealy. This is how these morons treat us.

    No wonder on the morning that the PM did a spot visit he did not want the media around and I cannot believe that the Police would assist the PM in this nonsense.

    What we needed to hear from the PM is how on earth he could OK a 15 storied hotel for that plot of land and how much money Maloney paid for the land………otherwise he could shut the hell up and announce the election date.

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  • @Prodogal Son

    Wouldn’t the TPD have the competence to know if a 15 storey building fits the space?

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  • It does not seem so, David………..

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Gabriel…the ones in Barbados are not priveleged, they all started out as a bunch of hungry parasites pretending to be friends with stupid government ministers pretending teey have arrived after being elected so they could get their hands on taxpayer contracts, money in the treasury and the pension fund….without that they would all still be potstarvers including the ministers, what privileged what.

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  • Where will the hotel staff and their guests park their cars?

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  • David

    The decision by Commisiong ass to seek a section from the Court system…..does not present work from the Hyatt continuing.

    Indeed the work will continue as the project has planning approval from theT & CP office

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  • That’s why Commissiong subsequently filed an Interim Order.

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  • what is so scary is having political demons like david BU and comissiong playing Russian roulette with the barbados economy, Indeed that is the most scary

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  • In regards to “punishable by laughter” dufus there is no laughter in seeing any progress which would increase growth to the barbados economy grounded to a halt.For certainly those punished would be those whose livelihood have been given a blackeye depending on the construction of hyatt for jobs because of the spirit of vexation dwelling in the cold hearted soul of the communist pooch licker david comissiong

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  • My recollection of how Richard Goddard and others established locus standi was that they formed the Scotland District Association which then took the matter to court.

    Membership was for persons living in the Scotland District who did not want to see the National Dump in the National Park.

    I remember attending an AGM held at the Conrade Hunte playing field, seems like an age ago.

    I could not vote for the officers as I was not a member but I remember a large number of persons being present who were.

    Work on the landfill did continue and the Government emptied $50 million plus into the hole but for whatever reason, it was halted.

    I like to think commonsense prevailed but what a monumental waste of money.

    If that money had not been blown back then perhaps the Government would have been in a stronger position when developers asked to develop Four Seasons and Harlequin and not Hyatt.

    The pressure to break its own rules might not have been present.

    Lets see, $50 million at 10% doubles every 7.2 years so theoretically, there would have been three doublings, first to $100 million then to $200 million and finally to $400 million!!

    Guess it was all borrowed from IADB or CDB and contributed to the growth of the National debt.

    I still look on the bright side, the clear existence of water may prove to be beneficial to the island.

    I have often wondered how much was available from the Scotland District.

    The Greenland River and Long Pond are two places where the majority of the water from the springs in the hills concentrate and perhaps it could be harvested, treated and pumped up to the edge of the escarpment for release into the catchments that feed Alleynedale and Haymans pumping stations.

    Perhaps it might reduce the times in the dry season when these two stations have to be shut down to avoid salt water intrusion and the North gets hammered.

    But the feasibility would have to be examined and the quantity available determined.

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  • The only people who believe that this economy is growing is the people who tinkered with the numbers to get the result they wanted for their masters.

    Barbados is at a virtual standstill, nothing is happening but the economy is growing. I wonder if I can get back my tax refunds.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Are these the evil Arab animals David Estwick is hellbent on borrowing 5 billion dollars from.

    “‘inhumane’ treatment of servants
    The Independent The Independent
    Chloe Farand
    1 day ago

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    Eight princesses are facing trial after they were accused of trafficking servants into Belgium and treating them in an “inhumane” way.

    Princess Sheikha al-Nahyan and her seven daughters, from the United Arab Emirates (UEA), travelled to Belgium regularly and brought with them at least 20 servants, all women, to wait on them hand and foot 24 hours a day.

    One servant went to the police after escaping from the luxury suite in the Conrad Hotel in Brussels where the princesses were staying in 2008.

    She claimed her and her peers were working long hours, sometimes without enough food, did not have beds to sleep on and were not in possession of visas, Deutsche Welle reports.

    Belgian police launched an investigation and found the women were living in “inhumane conditions”.

    The eight princesses have now been accused of violating labour laws and human trafficking.

    The case could have far-reaching consequences, not least because the al-Nahyan family is one of the most influential families in the UEA.

    Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed al-Nahyan, a member of the ruling family of Abu Dhabi, is the owner of Manchester City football club.

    According to the German broadcaster, the royal’s family lawyers claimed the police violated the princesses’ rights by searching their hotel room and a nine-year legal battle followed.

    Speaking to Deutsche Welle, Patricia LeCocq, spokeswoman for Belgian human rights organisation Myria, said: “The servants were not paid, they worked day and night and had to sleep on the floor. The princesses shouted at them and abused them continually.”

    She said the Belgian court had the chance to set a precedent.

    “If the court decides there is enough evidence to support a charge of human trafficking, the accused may have to pay compensation to their employees and may even face a prison sentence.

    “But the problem is that this case is already several years old. Even if the princesses are convicted, chances are the verdict could be very mild,” she said.

    Earlier this year, a similar case was heard by the European Court of Human Rights after a family from Dubai brought three servants from the Philippines to Vienna and were allegedly working around the clock without being paid their agreed wages and were physically and emotionally abused and threatened.

    They reported the case to Austrian police and claimed their employers took away their passports, ill-treated and exploited them.

    But in its ruling, the European Court of Justice concluded despite authorities having taken all necessary steps as part of the investigation, a trial would “not have any reasonable prospect of success”.

    The court said there were no mutual legal assistance agreement between Austria and the UEA and that the alleged victims reported the case to the police about a year after the events, when their employers had long left the country.”

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  • @David

    “Wouldn’t the TPD have the competence to know if a 15 storey building fits the space?”

    SIMPLE ANSWER — NO

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  • David,
    Wily Coyote, Prodigal son, and all those obstructionists; including David Commissiong, should present their engineering background and credentials before they open their mouths. You should also let us know yours, because the objections you are raising about construction of a 15 story building are so stupid I have to laugh out loud. Right here in Toronto buildings are being constructed with over 80-90 floors on land where once rivers ran. A 15 storey building on land which was once rock; for the sandy beach where the hotel is to be built was once all rocks, has a foundation as strong as any.Do you think Hyatt would allow their name to be affixed to a building that is badly constructed? do you think that the construction of a hotel such as this would not be constructed by competent engineers; of all types? Do you realize that the people working at Town Planning are qualified engineers, architects, and urban planners, and would have studied many years to reach where they have reached? Are these not the same people who would have approved the same home you are living in? For those talking or suggesting that somehow or other the ownership of the land is an issue, is again talking foolishness. Before it was designated for a hotel, do any of you remember who owned the land and what was on it?Do your research and leave your prejudice, obstructionism, and stupidity where it belongs; in the toilet.
    For your comments on Air Bnb, and your scornful and haughty attitude, AirBNB is another type of tourism; one that Denis Kellman had spoken about years ago. It is they type of community tourism that is good for the country. Many Many people with room in their houses, or with buildings they can rent out are profiting from this. It also allows many tourists to mix with the people in a way that many enjoy, and allows them to have more disposable income to spend away from the formality of a hotel setting.
    “Where will the hotel staff and their guests park their cars?” This from Prodigal son. Should anyone pay attention to any of your contributions after such a stupid question? Have you seen the plans for the hotel? Do you know the essence of any discussions for the area to be occupied by the hotel? Are you aware that all the land once owned by the Bethel circuit of the Methodist Church are included in the land to be used by the hotel? Sa I said, if you do not know, research before you comment. Stupid lot!!!

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  • Alvin Cummins May 14, 2017 at 9:50 AM #

    Based on the assumption that Hyatt will not be up and running before 2020…..has a review of present room stock to future arrivals been done…….do we know the percentage occupancy for the seasons in Bim…..approximately 4 hotels are coming on line shortly,how will they affect occupancy……….has an assessment been made of the future impact of Airbnb to present room stock been done???

    Alvin I hazzard to suggest that the answer is no to my above questions…..so why exactly are we adding more rooms?

    Why not build any new plant at Paradise.

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  • @Alvin

    Have you read the application for Judicial Review of the decision to approve Hyatt? What has any of the grounds mentioned by DC call for being an engineer? You know the elders in our midst are expected to bring wisdom and leadership NOT yardfowlisms.

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  • @ Alvin Cummins May 14, 2017 at 9:50 AM #

    Jackass COMMENTS from a YARDFOUL, Barbados has NO BUILDING CODE, NO ELECTRICAL CODE, NO PLUMBING CODE — Just a TURD WORLD COUNTRY living well above its real status.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Alvin….do you know the size of 7,000 square feet…can you visualize the area of 7,000 sq ft……that is a normal size house as long as you build upward and you can only safely get 2 floors.

    I am yet to hear the property on Browne’s beach being bigger than that, unless the scamps in government and their fellow scamp Maloney plan to seize property from owners abutting that property.

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  • David,
    Reading should be accompanied by an understanding of what is written. First of all being observant and telling it like it is is not yardfowlism. Being unnecessarily obstructionist, and not progressive is indeed that. and that is what all you are.
    My above was addressed to the many commentators who questioned everything; like those of Prodigal, who’s questioning “Parking spaces for employees’ cars”. they are getting on like everything or everybody connected with the planning, construction and everything else connected with the hotel are idiots. Commission’s first contributions were not concerned with the EIA. they were concerned with the use of the beach space and what he saw as an encroachment on the use of the Space at Brown’s Beach, by locals. Where the Hotel is proposed has no effect on Brown’s Beach per se. Some elders have good memories. Where was the “new” Hilton constructed? And why has Needham’s Point Development not moved the last couple of years? check that out?
    Vincent Haynes,
    People like you are always criticizing the government on “lack of foresight and forward thinking. Why do you think, and assume that those who have to deal with this subject have not thought of or done this. Do you have any idea of what their projections are? If we hope to attract different types of tourism; such as large conventions; some large companies etc have conventions at which large numbers of delegates attend, isn’t it prudent to plan for the provision of necessary space to house these types. Do you expect the tourism numbers to stay static when we are trying hard to attract greater numbers and grow? Paradise is already a Four Seasons hotel space a(designated). We have Hilton, Radisson, Marriott, and Hyatt (provisional). What about Delta, What About Sheraton, What about Crowne Plaza, and so many more that can be attracted. You people; the negatives, just want to be obstructionist.

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  • @Alvin

    If there was a comprehensive communication plan to sell the Hyatt would questions about traffic management and others be surfacing? How is DC obstructionist if he has exercised his right under the law?

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  • Alvin Cummins May 14, 2017 at 10:52 AM #

    Bottom line….has a study been done,to justify increases in room capacity…..yes or no?

    You are saying that a patriotic Bimmer has no right to ask questions?

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  • Vincent,
    How do you know that a study has not been done? Do you think that someone just gets up one morning, decides to build a hotel, puts in an application to Town Planning, and is granted permission? Don you think that the financiers, the members of the Board of Directors of whatever corporation is tasked with the responsibility for the building of the hotel. Have you checked with the Board of Tourism, to see if they have the study that you require? A responsible Bimmer has a right to ask questions, but not to make assumptions without having made the necessary study.

    David,
    The hotel has not been constructed yet so I ask is this a correct assumption: “If there was a comprehensive communication plan to sell the Hyatt”
    I am not questioning David (c) right , or as a matter of fact anyone’s right to question , in whatever way, the activity of any entity that impacts the public. I have issues with those who are deliberately being obstructionist, especially in these days when the economy is on tenterhooks. The decision to build a hotel there did not just begin last year. It was mentioned years ago when the decision was made to cease the use of that space for Harbour Police. It should have been obvious to any and everyone that the space ‘created by nature” would have been developed. The decision many years by BS&T to build a Marina development would have been discussed etc.Now that a decision has been made, everyone is coming out of the woodwork, not to help advance the project, but to obstruct any decision by the present government to make improvements, in the country. People always want to see nefarious activity in proposals.

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  • Alvin

    Stop trying to bamboozle me,it will not work…..I asked you a question………kindly answer it.

    Once it has been answered we can deal with the rest.

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  • @Alvin

    How do you mean you should wait until the hotel is built to have a communications plan. Are you saying, contrary to the draft physical development plan, that the government should plunk a 15 story hotel in a location without regard for the opinions of Barbadians? How will the traffic be managed. How will the coastline be affected etc. It does not matter that a EIA was done for that whole area as touted by some, it must still be communicated to citizens. The government serves at the pleasure of the people for crissakes!

    You may have the last word.

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  • Here we go, an election looms!

    BLP renews call for integrity legislation

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    The opposition Barbados Labour Party (BLP) has renewed its call on the Freundel Stuart administration to enact integrity legislation that will force people in public life to declare their assets.

    The BLP representative for Christ Church East, Senator Wilfred Abrahams, made the call on Saturday following a tour of the constituency with other members of the party.

    Abrahams accused the governing Democratic Labour Party (DLP) of endless “corruption and moral decay”.

    He said while members of the DLP based their 2007 election campaign on transparency and accountability, they have failed to deliver on their promises.

    “I believe that everybody in public office should have to declare their assets, I have nothing to hide,” Abrahams said.

    “It cannot be a case where representatives are benefitting on the back of people especially when people are suffering. Every dollar that a representative puts in his pockets is a dollar less to spend on his constituency.”

    Abrahams accused the DLP of using delaying the proceedings, noting that the only thing delaying the passing of the integrity legislation is the absence of the Governor General’s signature.

    “If this government wanted integrity legislation it would be there already. If this government wanted to have control over election spending it would be there. If they wanted to have oversight over campaign financing it would be there but there is no political will to do that and you have to ask yourself why. Why is this government shying away from its promises when those promises are related to accountability, transparency and integrity?”

    Meantime, Abrahams said members of his party are ready to declare their assets.

    “We are prepared to declare our incomes, we are prepared to not pay lip service and actually implement the integrity legislation promised by this current government  . . . I believe that those in this current government need to backtrack, check their tax filings, if they have them, and confess to the people what they had nine years ago in 2007 and what they have now,” he said.

    “I want them to start digging and shaking the family tree and let us know what your brother, your sister, your wife, let us know what your mother had in her bank account seven years ago and what she has now.”

    Abrahams who is vying for the seat currently held by the Minister of the Environment, Denis Lowe, said “if you have nothing to hide then the people should know what their public servants make, not just the politicians, the senior civil servants, all the politically exposed people. They all must stand up”.

    The attorney also accused the Director of Public Prosecutions and the Commissioner of Police of having “their wings clipped” and have turned a blind eye to the corruption plaguing the island.

    Abrahams called for the Cahill Project to be investigated.

    “When you shine a bright light in the corners, the rats are going to scatter, let us shine that bright light and let us see who runs,” he said.

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  • Hopalong aka waiting

    When is the Hyatt case to be heard and will one of the million lawyers in Barbados explain how a court goes on vacation. This case needs to be settled as a matter of urgency. Let the Hyatt construction forge ahead. Jack Warner’s case is to be concluded in July . Extradition is in the air. The Americans are a month away from getting their hands on Jack The Cat Warner. Cant North Korea or Outer Mongolia extradite Commissiong? The sight of Commissiong smiling while hindering a project that could bring hundreds of jobs for the unemployed is more sickening than a dead rat in a Broad Street gutter.

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  • @ David
    Alvin is an idiot…. 🙂
    …but he does have quite interesting discussions with Vincent….

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  • Vincent Haynes

    Bushie

    Chuckle….bozie yuh real weird en trufe…….what interesting discusions??

    Go back and tackle John and let him put some more warm lashes en yuh tail.

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  • Hopalong May 14, 2017 at 12:46 PM #
    When is the Hyatt case to be heard and will one of the million lawyers in Barbados explain how a court goes on vacation.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The Judge took a vacation.

    I have seen it before, twice, the last time I was told through the grapevine that the Judge had been sent on vacation to bring his outstanding decisions up to date.

    Judges are people and people get ill, have pressing personal problems or just need to catch up on their paperwork.

    So Judges take breaks.

    The whole court however, shuts down at the end of July for a vacation in August.

    It is like the long holidays when we were at school.

    School shuts down.

    A new term, will start in September.

    I think September is when you see the long procession of robed judges going to or coming from the Cathedral where the Church prays for the members of the Judiciary and God’s guidance in their work.

    All David Commissiong needs to hope for is the Judge’s vacation ends before July 31st otherwise it will run into the Court’s vacation and he won’t get a date before September … if he is lucky.

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  • …. BTW, I am not a lawyer …. or a judge!!

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  • Vincent…………you have time to talk to a yardfowl like Alvin Cummins.

    Whatever this inept government does is right, remember Cahill was the greatest investment ever for Barbados for him and we were stopping progress for Barbados. Same talking points from yardfowls each and every time.

    My house sits on more land than where this Hyatt is to be built…….give me a break, AC.

    Why dont you serve God instead of the DLP? Moron!

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/05/14/blp-renews-call-for-integrity-legislation/

    Same old song and dance….stop asking politeky and expose their cirruption once and for all.

    “BLP renews call for integrity legislation
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    The opposition Barbados Labour Party (BLP) has renewed its call on the Freundel Stuart administration to enact integrity legislation that will force people in public life to declare their assets.

    The BLP representative for Christ Church East, Senator Wilfred Abrahams, made the call on Saturday following a tour of the constituency with other members of the party.

    Abrahams accused the governing Democratic Labour Party (DLP) of endless “corruption and moral decay”.

    He said while members of the DLP based their 2007 election campaign on transparency and accountability, they have failed to deliver on their promises.”

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Alvin idiot. Even I know that no environmental impact study has been done in that era in over 10 years.

    Do some reasearch.

    Stop embarassing yourself as a clueless, stupid yardfowl.

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  • Hopalong aka waiting

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  • Alvin is merely obfuscating and talking nonsense!! No one has questioned the structural integrity of a 15-storey building, the argument has always been about appropriateness given the location of the site within the designated heritage area, the proposed layout and mass. All the talk about Toronto and tall buildings, one can’t be dropped any and everywhere in the city, including heritage areas. This is why I love the internet:

    http://www1.toronto.ca/city_of_toronto/city_planning/urban_design/files/pdf/tall-buildings.pdf

    http://www1.toronto.ca/city_of_toronto/city_planning/urban_design/files/pdf/hcd_policies.pdf

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Alvin has one set of standards for Canada and a more primitive set of standards for his own island and people.

    A true house negro.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Alvin Cummins May 14, 2017 at 11:35 AM
    “Vincent,
    How do you know that a study has not been done? Do you think that someone just gets up one morning, decides to build a hotel, puts in an application to Town Planning, and is granted permission? Don you think that the financiers, the members of the Board of Directors of whatever corporation is tasked with the responsibility for the building of the hotel.”

    Hi Alvin the C, Miller here, again. Doesn’t this sound like déjà vu all over again?

    Isn’t your set of arguments proffered here in respect of the Hyatt erection the same as those you ardently prosecuted in respect of that economic game-changing Sugar Point Cruise ship terminal to be constructed down Trevor’s Way which was scheduled to start since January 2014?

    So where is your cruse ship terminal? Shot dead in the water just like the Cahill nuclear reactor which would have been used to incinerate now only the thousands of vehicles which have come to the end of their useful lives while beautifying Barbados but also the emaciated bodies hundreds of poor people unable to get a ‘decent’ internment because of the hardships ‘wrought’ by your deceitful lying party?

    We all know you are the expert not only in the ‘science’ of engineering but also in the dodgy art of finance.

    So tell the BU readers where is the money to ‘raise’ the Hyatt erection coming from?
    Is it coming from the same source as that which was used to finance the ‘engineering’ redesign of the Pierhead marina or the Sugar Point Cruise Ship Terminal by bilking the suckers called ‘Taxpayers’ via your so-called BTI, BTII, etc?

    Who would it be this time around? Would it be the same simple suckers (aka hard-working National Insurance contributors) as were duped out of $120 million in the Four Seasons restart scam?

    Is it true to say the same way those projects were used as a pipeline to channel money to fund the 2013 elections of your deceitful lying party the Hyatt scam would also be used to carry out a similar exercise in the upcoming event of tomfoolery to make the stupid electorate believe your administration is really attracting FDI to create an economic miracle on a piece of land which cannot even accommodate a casino one-tenth that of Paradise Island?

    Which foreign investor would back a project?
    Unless he is an AC octogenarian scunt living in Toronto who refuses to return to his beloved Barbados to save his incompetent political party from planning to be a suicide bomber by destroying the economy.

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  • How Delisle Worrell and lawyer in the news Gregory Nicholls get a court to sit on Sunday and went on to lose their case?. The Worrell/ Nicholls nonsense was of zero significance to the national good. Thousands of jobs and the revitalization of Bridgetown are on the line with Hyatt. Wickedness is at play by a tiny minority who want to stop Hyatt. Why cant the court convene vacation or not or even sit a Sunday as was done for losers Nicholls/ Worrell.

    Do any of the mob a ton of lawyers care to say why? We don’t expect to hear from the lawyers who are in prison or on bail accused as thieves . The remainder of lawyers must have a clue.

    .

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  • barbados has officially been designated as a banana republic. who ever heard in the international community a judge suddenly going on vacation. such a disappearance would have to be of more importance in the international community than a vacation especially when the country interest is being placed on slow burning coals
    Only in a banana republic would a judge have a court schedule two months in advance and decides it is time for vacation and vacation time supersedes the nations interest,,, enough to give one a belly hurt

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Lol

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  • Frustrated Businessman: enact Facilitation Martial Law!

    God loves irony.

    If the useless cabinet of Fools had fixed the justice system as they promised in 2008, this legal challenge wouldn’t be a problem. The case would have been heard in 6 to 8 weeks and ‘right’ would have been victorious.

    Because Fumble’s Fools have done nothing but tear down this country for the past 9 years, the justice system is more broken that it ever was and they will be tied up in court for years like the rest of us.

    Justice delayed is justice denied.

    In our court system, regardless of who is right or wrong, we all lose except Fumble’s very own lawyer class.

    Not this time Fool. Come down from your ivory tower and roll in the mud with the rest of us.

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  • @ Frustrated B
    …are you suggesting that Fumble’s fools are being mauled by their own judicial dogs…

    At least they will now know how ordinary citizens seeking justice have felt for decades now….

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  • Vincent Haynes

    Alvin

    The Adrian Loveridge Column – Will Barbados Have to Recruit Hotel Workers to Staff the Hyatt and Sam Lords?

    Adrian Loveridge

    I read with some incredulity an article entitled Hotel school’s funds ‘drying up’ – Principal in another section of the media.
    ………………………………………………..

    So you are still telling me that we are all prepared for an increase in room capacity?

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  • Holalong

    Even judges are now sick of you morons! It is that bad………

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Fumble’s Fools are not smart enough to know that a broken judiciary means the country cannot function.

    A country is only as good as it’s court system.

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  • @Prodigal Son May 13, 2017 at 8:33 PM ” I cannot believe that the Police would assist the PM in this nonsense.”

    I don’t want to be mean, but the average policeman has how many CXC’s again

    2 1/2 maybe?

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  • @Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger May 13, 2017 at 8:45 PM “get their hands on taxpayer contracts, money in the treasury and the pension fund…without that they would all still be potstarvers including the ministers.”

    Potstarvers?

    Lol!

    Don’t know the last time I heard that word.

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  • Hopalong aka waiting May 14, 2017 at 12:46 PM #

    “The sight of Commissiong smiling while hindering a project that could bring hundreds of jobs for the unemployed is more sickening than a dead rat in a Broad Street gutter.”

    @ Hopalong aka waiting

    Is that sight more sickening than a smiling Michael Carrington being ALLOWED to REMAIN as Speaker of the House, after being ordered by the Court to pay funds he with-held for over 2 years from a wheel chair bound senior citizen?

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  • @Alvin Cummins May 14, 2017 at 9:50 AM “Right here in Toronto buildings are being constructed with over 80-90 floors on land where once rivers ran.”

    And isn’t it true that Toronto was expecting 3 to 4 inches of rain last week, and was worried about flooding?

    isn’t it true that the Toronto government several years ago ordered householders not to let run off from their properties get into the city’s storm drain system but that householders were ordered to manage the run-off withing their own property boundaries.

    We can build on waterways all we like, but at some time mother mature will cut our @ss.

    Did Mother Nature not cut Montreal’s @ss just last month even though there was less than 6 inches of rainfall in a 30 day period?
    http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/montreals-april-rainfall-record-may-be-broken-by-sunday-night

    Yoo know that in Barbados we regularly get six inches of rainfall in 24 hours right?

    Some of you from the north seem to not know or have forgotten what tropical rainfall is like. In Barbados 6 inches of rain in 30 days is nothing. We send our toddlers to school with rainfall like that. But how to manage 6 inches in 6 hours is a completely different story

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Dont mind Alvin….we nearly drowned right outside Loblaws in the Bayview area sone years ago, building codes are very strict and impact studies are mandatory, even the GO trains nearly got swept away, police cars were in trouble. Canada is a prarie.

    Idiot Alvin believes anything should go in Barbados. He is useless.

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  • https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/why-does-the-don-valley-parkway-flood-so-often-geology-hydrology-and-urban-development/30338
    “A particularly strong rain storm washes over the [Greater Toronto Area], or a concentrated heavy downpour drenches the east end of Toronto, and suddenly commuting along the Don Valley Parkway goes from simply slow to downright [HAZARDOUS] as the Don River crests its banks and envelopes the traffic artery’s south end…laying down even more concrete and asphalt up and down the lands that border both sides of the river valley…This is what it really comes down to for flooding along the Don River and the Don Valley Parkway today – urban development. ” Scott Sutherland, Meteorologist/Science Writer

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  • We can build on waterways all we want, whenever Mother Nature is ready she will have her pound of flesh.

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  • CUP/BFP Violet Beckles Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZ

    Prodigal Son May 15, 2017 at 9:44 AM #

    Holalong

    Even judges are now sick of you morons! It is that bad………@@@@

    more than 50%of the judges came from the same nasty pool as the lawyers, and the Clerk of the Court also a crook even each time they are replaced,

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  • @Alvin

    Your long winded articles carry the same stench as the garbage accumulating around the island. Is Fundal Stewart a building, or civil engineer? If so he probably went to school with the same engineer that planned the Warrens Roundabout redesign. These studies were done years ago! If this type of development continues the citizens won’t have any access to the beautiful beaches. What happened to the Villages at Coverley anther Mark Maloney development? It’s just a series of greased palms!

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  • Fruendel Stuart. Adriel Brathwaite, John Boyce and Dr. David Estwick should have “deigned an apology” to Barbadians and held accountable for failing to act on serious matters confronting this island.

    A few weeks ago the Sunday Sun published two consecutive reports of squatting, where Guyanese and Jamaicans are illegally constructing houses and securing “house spots” for relatives and friends in Rock Hall, St. Philip.

    Adriel Brathwaite said he was aware of the situation, but as at May 15, 2017, the authorities have not done anything to address this issue. However, since Brathwaite also mentioned he had friends living there, it is reasonable to assume that squatting will continue.

    Several illegal Guyanese vendors can be seen openly selling vegetables on the sidewalk in front the Cheapside Market, while Barbadian vendors have to pay the Ministry of Agriculture for vendor space in the market. A number of illegal Jamaican vendors are also selling vegetables in Spry Street.

    A visit to the old Fairchild Street Market would reveal a number of newly built stalls owned and operated by Guyanese, selling food and beverages without the appropriate food & liquor licenses or toilet facilities. The other side of the market, going towards StarCom, is occupied by Jamaicans also selling food and beverages without the appropriate licenses and toilet facilities.

    Why have MoA Estwick and MoH Boyce refused to address these illegal and unhealthy issues?

    Over the past 6 years the pleas to John Boyce from vendors in Oistins to have the sewage and general environment cleaned so as to facilitate a healthy environment for Barbadians and tourists have remained unanswered.

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  • @ David

    I’m experiencing the same problem again. This has been occurring since I singed on to wordpress. Perhaps I should “deactivate” my account.

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  • ** signed

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  • @ Artax
    Had that same problem..
    Bushie done wid that sign-on shiite… 🙂

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  • Artax,
    I said it before and I will say it again, Bajans are a nasty lot, they do not care about their environment, and they expect to get everything from the Government.
    Why the hell to vendors in Ousting cannot get off their lazy asses and look after the same environment that they want to encourage visitors to frequent. Why must Government be responsible for cleaning the environment where their customers litter and dirty, and they themselves polite with waste oil, greaSE, AND CONTAINERS.As for the vendors selling illegally, we have inspectors who refuse to do their jobs. There are laws rules and regulations, that they choose to ignore rather than enforce, and we have politicians; (the city),the Ivy (Prescod) Penny Hole (Brathwaite).
    Miller: The financing for the Sugar Point will from from the same source as what would have been obtained for Needham’s Point development; what was it again; Condominiums, convention centre etc, etc.? How long ago was it? 2001 or thereabouts? If you had taken the time to look at the EIA for the Sugar Point development; I know you did not because your name was not in the book you had to sign at Barbados Port Inc to see it,MY NAME IS IN IT. you would have seen that one of the conditions that had to be fulfilled was the removal and replanting of corals from the area that dredging and reconstruction haS To be done. Corals take time to be reestablished.Check aND SEE FOR YOURSELF

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  • Hopalong AKA waiting

    A sensible editorial for Barbadians loyal to the country who think for themselves and are unafraid of the rowdy traitor minority.

    FRONT PAGE COMMENT: A matter of urgency

    Mon, 05/15/2017 – 12:00am Barbados Advocate
    The ongoing saga surrounding the proposed Hyatt Hotel development has brought a number of issues into sharp focus which should be of concern to all Barbadians who are interested in the well-being of their country. Of particular interest among them are: the efficient administration of the Courts in this country and the conduct of the press in its coverage of matters before the Courts.
    When the matter which Mr. David Commissiong has brought against Mr. Freundel Stuart in his capacity of Minister responsible for Town Planning came on for hearing on Tuesday, 9 May 2017, it was adjourned to a date in July as the Judge before whom it was set down for hearing has reportedly gone on vacation leave.
    This information raises a number of questions:
    1. Who is/are responsible for the assigning and setting down of cases in the High Court?
    2. Would that responsible authority not have been aware that a particular Judge would be going on vacation within the short period between the last adjournment and the upcoming hearing? Certainly the matter of an official in an organisation – any organisation – going on vacation must be something known to that administration. What does this administrative howler say about the administration of justice in our country?
    3. Given the importance of this case for the economic development of Barbados and since it came on as a matter of urgency, might it not be transferred to another Judge? Why should the country have to be held in continuous suspense in respect of the hearing of this important matter?
    In addition to the above, the manner in which the Complainant has been speaking to the press and radio on a matter which is sub judice must be a cause for concern.
    On the adjournment of the matter, the Complainant, Mr. Commissiong, addressed the press on the steps of the Supreme Court and announced among other things, that his right to bring this matter before the Court – his locus standi – was being challenged by the Defendant in the matter. He went on to definitively state that the Defendant’s challenge was misguided as a very similar case in the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council from Trinidad supported his right to bring the case. His comments formed part of a CBC TV news item in the evening news on 9 May 2017.
    That matter of which Mr. Commissiong spoke is an issue of fundamental importance which will be left for the Trial Judge to decide after hearing the submission of Counsel in the case; it is an issue that can decide the case outright.
    As such, it is our view that discussion to the extent which the Complainant embarked was highly prejudicial and possibly contemptuous.
    One cannot ignore that a number of issues raised by Mr. Commissiong are political rather than legal. In that regard, Mr. Commissiong is free to give vent to any political agenda he might be possessed of. However, it is our view that he should leave the legal issues involved in the case for the determination of the Court without seeming to give assistance to the Trial Judge through his addresses to the press.
    We consider the matters raised above to be of great importance for the impartial and fair administration of justice in this country and look forward with keen interest to the future conduct of this matter before the Court.
    The Hon. Anthony T. Bryan, CHB, GCM
    Publisher

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  • @Alvin Cummins May 16, 2017 at 9:13 AM “I said it before and I will say it again, Bajans are a nasty lot, they do not care about their environment, and they expect to get everything from the Government. Why the hell to vendors in Ousting cannot get off their lazy asses and look after the same environment that they want to encourage visitors to frequent. Why must Government be responsible for cleaning the environment where their customers litter and dirty, and they themselves polite with waste oil, greaSE, AND CONTAINERS.”

    You asked Why:

    Because the Minister of Health and the Minister of the Environment have had the benefit of an excellent education, mostly funded by the taxpayers, because we pay them very well to do their jobs, because they volunteered for leadership positions, because the vendors pay taxes, and therefore have a right to expect tax services for their tax dollars. because selling food in a nasty area is potentially a hazard to all of us, because food borne diseases can spread beyond the individual selling, and the individual buying and consuming the food. Reference “Typhoid Mary.”

    Because as well the public health inspectors had the benefit of an excellent education, mostly funded by the taxpayers, because we pay them well to do their jobs, because they volunteered to be public health inspectors. because selling food in a nasty area is potentially a hazard to all of us, because food borne diseases can spread beyond the individual selling, and the individual buying and consuming the food. Reference “Typhoid Mary.”

    Because as well the sanitation workers had the benefit of an education, mostly funded by the taxpayers, because we pay them to do their jobs, because they volunteered to be sanitation workers, because selling food in a nasty area is potentially a hazard to all of us, because food borne diseases can spread beyond the individual selling, and the individual buying and consuming the food. Reference “Typhoid Mary.”

    So yes these people have a duty to WORK FOR US, to lead us, to teach us to do better, and to continue to educate us, because education never ends.

    We have too soon forgotten that there are people still living who endured food borne diseases, and who have required expensive hospitalization. Because expensive hospitalizations cost all of us taxpayers.

    I trust that I have answered your question.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Because Alvin is an idiot.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    The court system does not function…..therefore the country cannot function.

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  • Well Well and Simple,
    “Because Alvin is an idiot”
    True. But alvin also knows that Alvin also as a responsibility to keep around him clean and tidy, without expecting anyone else to clean my place. Because Alvin is an idiot and knows that even though he worked in a Microbiology Laboratory, that he could not expect the cleaners in the lab; or anywhere else in the hospital to clean up for him; he knew ha had to keep his work environment clean and tidy, so he always cleaned off his work area with disinfectant etc periodically, and especially at the end of the work day. He did not depend on someone else to do it for him. Because Alvin knows what it is to be clean and tidy, and one does not need special knowledge to know that if one is selling food to others that he MUST obey the Sanitary regulations. Each individual has a responsibility for his work environment, and even though the individual may not have the necessary education, those who supervise have the responsibility to TRAIN those who work for them. Granny keeps her surroundings clean and tidy, she does not depend on the Minister, the Sanitary Inspectors, or anyone in authority to enforce any provisions. She KNOWS that she should keep her surroundings clean and tidy, and I have seen her workers cleaning up the surroundings. So don’t come to me with any of that foolishness and idiocy.
    Why can’t the vendors in Oistins, get together, join together purchase a power washer, hire someone and give him the responsibility to power wash the Bay Gardens on a daily basis, Buy some Bleach, dilute it 1:10 and power wash the areas. Join together and pay that person out of your profits which are large and keep your surroundings sanitary and clean.
    As you say:”Because expensive hospitalizations cost all of us taxpayers.” therefore each of us has a responsibility to look after our interest. Thus put our trash IN a rubbish bin. Thus we each have a responsibility to police our surroundings, thus we should NOT throw our garbage out a bus or vehicle window. Thus we must separate and put our garbage in the requisite garbage container. Every dollar the is expended by government comes out of the people, not anyone from Germany or Mars. More important has to be the realization that an outbreak of serious food poisoning; which can kill, has to be taken seriously, because it can drive the same vendors out of business, and leave them with a possible lawsuit on their hands.
    Do you expect the Ministers to come and bathe you or do you take it upon yourselves to bathe yourselves?
    And “because selling food in a nasty area is potentially a hazard to all of us”, Therefore those who sell food, because they are adults and should know better, MUST do what they are hired to do, not shirk their responsibilities nor pass them on to somebody else. And this applies to everyone.
    .Don’t come to me with no more of this crap.

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  • Get a life do …Alvin !!
    Talking a lotta shiite as usual…

    When you can have a minister putting a tipping tax on citizens who are seeking to clean up their surroundings and to take the stuff to the official dump …. and not EXPECTING that this will cause indiscriminate dumping, you KNOW that you are in high-level, ‘idiot company’…

    When, in order to dump garbage, a citizen FIRST has to go to some shiite government department to buy ‘tickets’, then proceed to the damn dump (but NOT on weekends – when working people have time to clean up) to dispose of their stuff…. What message is the DLP idiots sending to the citizens…?

    Instead of coming here with you nonsense, why not advise the StinkLiar to use a system like the parking tickets at the airport … where customers can buy a ticket at the site which is then used to open the access gate to the dump?
    There are no decimals involved …so perhaps he can manage to get that done….

    Steupsss!!
    You could REALLY keep your damn trap shut…. and your donkey up in Canada.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @BT
    now de teefing whackers…https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/05/17/weed-whacker-thief-to-pay-back-business/

    My daily dose of comedy. Said whacker was stolen “sometime between April 11, 2015 and May 9 this year”. Two effing years and dey en sure when!!!! One hell of an efficient inventory system.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @WW&C
    “building codes are very strict and impact studies are mandatory”
    just so you know, they finally announced today they will be disbanding the OMB, which is the bullshit group the developers literally own, and where the studies you cite have been a mockery for some years now.
    The codes may exist, but the builders skirt them constantly.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/omb-changes-1.4117063

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  • LOL @ NorthernObserver
    …which is why Bushie will not be renting out his whacker…

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Nirthern……..as it should be, they took full advantage, particularly in the Toronto area….something like what Fruendel the Fool and Maloney the Fraud are trying to do.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Alvin…ya cant even drop a candy wrapper in Canada without incuŕring a heavy fine, have you noticed how clean Canada is……

    Welll tell ya idiot government ministers to either legislate or ENFORCE heavy fines for littering..

    That is THEIR JOB..

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  • Well Well,
    Again you are letting political bias outperform your common sense. Ministers do not enforce. The legislation is there. The ENFORCERS are ones to look after the enforcement; police, supervisors, etc are the enforcers, and if they do not do their jobs Ministers are powerless. If a minister is doing his job, producing the legislation, and you throw the garbage NEXT to a garbage bin, which has a sign placed next to it, asking you to place your garbage IN the container, that has a sign next to it, indicating the amount of the fine for disobeying the sign, and YOU still throw YOUR garbage outside contributing to the garbage problem, whose fault is it. Is it NOT the nasty person (YOU) who put YOUR garbage outside? That is the situation in Barbados. A bunch of Nasty, Indisciplined, people who want everything provided for them, without any sense of discipline or sense of responsibility. So you and Bushie and all those others can talk until my Black face turn Blue, I will still continue to tell all of you like it is. Blaming the politicians, as you do, is just a way of trying to escape from yourselves.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    The attorney general, a minister, head legislator directs police and DPP to ENFORE laws.

    Clueless Alvin.

    Head yardfowl.

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  • The advocate editorial worth reading some one with common sense whose understand the importance of putting a country interest above all other interest
    David BU has his head so stuck up in Commisiong rare end that nothing said in that editorial would be enough to persuade him of the vindictive nature of David Commisiong in his political adventures to destry the economy of this small island

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  • Well,
    they don’t have to DIRECT anyone to do anything. When the Enforcers are hired they know what the responsibilities of the job are. After that it is their responsibility to DO their job.
    Why do people like you adopt this attitude of condoning what is wrong. that is what Trump supporters are doing. Although the evidence points strongly to wrong doing they still continue to support him. The same thing obtains here in Barbados. Even though the government does what is possible within limits on the country they still present obstacles and expect miracles.

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