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Those of us who refuse to navel gaze by maintaining a keen interest in global affairs would have followed the the Brexit referendum and all that ensued in the United Kingdom, followed by the elevation of Donald Trump to the presidency of the USA. Both outcomes represent outcomes not predicted by many talking heads who represent the establishment. Both events exposed rising concerns by citizens about unfettered immigration; unprotected borders as well as the need to have greater focus on the domestic economy.

The French presidential election has taken on global interest in light of Brexit and the rise of Trumpism. As we scribe this blog Marine Le Pen from the far-right and Emmanuel Macron labelled a centrist have been projected to move to the second round of voting to determine who will be president of France on the 07 May 2017.

The BU household does not boast of any intimate knowledge of the political landscape of France, however, even from our arms distance there is enough to observe to provoke a comparison and critique of the Barbados political space.  One of the observations by French political commentators has been that the French people will have the opportunity to vote for the kind of France they want. In Macron they have a man who does not believe in left or right political ideologies but prefers the pragmatic approach to confronting the issues that confront France. He has taken the view for example that a strong France will have its foundation in the European Union.  On the other side of the presidential race there is Le Pen whose nationalist bent is about pursuing an anti European Union, anti immigration agenda and to reinstate the Franc as the currency of choice.

Unlike France there is no marked difference in the political ideology of the two main political parties that have governed Barbados since Independence in 1966. The homogeneity of the duopoly Barbadians have had to chose has led to a stasis state and a creep in voter lethargy.  BU is hopeful the platform agenda of all the political parties in Barbados will be about selling a vision for a new Barbados for the next 50 years. What messaging we have been exposed to so far is much of the same and akin to band-aiding serious injuries. Our governance model is seriously broken and bold leadership is required. To make the concern acute is the absence to date of charismatic leaders.

It has not escaped BU that Theresa May has returned to the people to seek a stronger mandate to pursue a hard-Brexit AND the rise of Donald Trump the rank outsider who fought against the so called establishment to win. Again in the French presidential election we have two individuals who have never run for public office. Across the globe there is the rise of populism. In Barbados in contrast we detect that although there is an annoyance by many directed at the two main political parties the third parties have not been able to gain traction to this point. We remain optimistic!

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141 responses to “The French in Bajan Politics”


  1. Le Pen is an MEP and has been a presidential candidate since she got rid of her father. The French are the bests educated people in Europe and are used to tactical voting.
    What I missing of your analysis is the problem with its French-born Muslim terrorists. Major. A result of it war in Algeria.


  2. @Hal

    The very cursory analysis of the French situation was to compare the diversity of their political landscape to ours.


  3. Facts are facts, or in summaries they are alternative facts.


  4. BBC labelled Trump and le Pen as economic nationalism (white scum speak for racism) and Obama as liberal globalism (white scum speak for anti-racism)

    reminds me of money brain

  5. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    “Far-right French politician wants to bring back death penalty and BEHEAD terrorists”

    That is one of the things Le Pen is campaigning on….

    Ramener la guillotine…..and of course some politicians will also get their heads caught in it, just like the kings and queens of France did centuries ago…lol

    The UK should think of dusting off their guillotine as well and……enlevez leur têtes……

    The guillotine was used in Germany, Hitler used it with gay abandon.

  6. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @Hal. ” The french are the best educated people in Europe”. On what basis do you make such claim?


  7. David, what “diverse” political ideologies could emerge in Barbados? Far right far left left of centre right of centre, centrist? What would beliefs/positions would encompass these positions on the political spectrum?

  8. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    Education can be overrated especially, in the highly charged political sphere. The Nazi party had some of the most educated germans as members and supporters.


  9. Secondary school curriculum, including the teaching of philosophy, pedagogy, quality of universities, and post-university outcomes. The Finns do better in the PISA tests, and the Germans on technical education.


  10. @enuff

    Good questio -a nationalist view could be to withdraw from Caricom and nationalize the banks.

    A pragmatic centralist view might be to negotiate to join the EC subregion.

    And so on


  11. Forty,

    CLR James did not go to university, Prof Richard Titmus did not have a degree, nor Isaiah Berlin did not write a book.


  12. Yea Hal,how about you critiquing the French scene for us in the far flung Anglophone empire that was.You have a penchant for standing by the foreshore shouting at the waves but never venture to put out to sea to face the elements like those brave men and women who go down to the sea in ships and occupy their their business in the deep.
    Tell us why the French maintain a large presence in Africa,troops and all,and make the Africans pay for it by controlling their finances.
    That Le Pen guillotine is intended for blacks who dare to think Liberty is universal.


  13. Gabriel,
    I am not French and have no deep interest in French politics. Sorry.


  14. But you are just next door and part of the federation


  15. Wrong again. I am not French and have no deep interest in French politics. I am a supporter of a United States of Europe, although lack people will likely get a raw deal.


  16. What is of note is that Macron started a movement not a party in late 2016 and in that short period at the age of 39 became the winner of the first run off.
    It shows what a young peoples movement can achieve.


  17. @Vincent

    You are sure his emergence is not about the collape of the traditional parties? Macron will win, Le Pen does not command the support needed.


  18. @DAvid
    “Good questio -a nationalist view could be to withdraw from Caricom and nationalize the banks.

    A pragmatic centralist view might be to negotiate to join the EC subregion.”

    We shall do neither.

    the common thread (Brexit, Trump, Macron-Pen) is a rejection of “thing as they were”

    In the Barbadian context, this rejection still leaves an uncomfortable void that will push people’s “X” in the direction of one status quo or the next.

    All due respect to BIM, Grenville, CAP, UPP and whoever else decides to try a thing…..but…I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…..

    “Will the real leaders please stand up?” –

    Just observing


  19. Le Pen is the candidate of the Kremlin, Macron the candidate of Liberalism and Bruxelles. With Le Pen on the top, the destruction of the European Union and another “Great” War are inevitable.

  20. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @Hal. Wouldn’t a better metric on education be like: average years of schooling of the population or % of the population/ or cohort groups with teritiary level credentials.?


  21. @Observing

    Preach it!

    @Tron

    One commentator in the post runoff analysis stated Macron represents the vote for hope and le Pen the vote for anger. How will the French reconcile the two? Historically the French have voted against the far-right not so?


  22. The French deserve Le Pen.

    They Francophone asses still have a huge debt outstanding for what they have done to Haiti…. and Karma does not forget. She just waits for the REALLY opportune time, and clearly their Great War experiences were only down payments so far…


  23. David, a cursory review steeped in facts is still a worthy read.

    I am always intrigued with this concept of “charismatic leaders” and in this case your remark of their “absence” is interesting.

    Seems to me that a charming leader comes down to a few broad basics: the average person sorta seems themselves in the individual…or basically they admire their smarts, oral skills, intelligence and appealing savoir faire (simply good looks). Or otherwise the person hits the nerve which bothers many and he/she rides that wave expertly.

    Bernie Sanders was the latter type. And in that regard there is nothing stopping Grenville from being that sort of person… if he had the gregarious personality to adapt and adopt the necessary affectations and guile needed.

    It always amuses me when I read of Donald Trump as “the rank outsider who fought against the so called establishment”.

    The man has been in and around the ruling elite of the US for the last 25+ years. He is an outsider only because he was never elected to political office. In every other sense he is the establishment.

    I get that outsider narrative which he used and which resonates so glibly but it really does not tell the true tale. Frankly, Barack Obama was more of an outsider than Trump was.

    And in France LaPen has been buzzing around French politics for quite some time.

    It would have been beyond having balls for little Barbados who exported her people all over the region to adopt that nationalist stance of “… to withdraw from Caricom …”

    But then sometimes you need Machiavelli size balls: give yesterday and take back today …we too got angry when we thought immigration of the poor and downtrodden were overwhelming our structures and many started to adopt xenophobic views.

    What is being seen in US and across Europe is unfortunately a natural inclination..it may be racist and insular but we all get very concerned when we can no longer control our way of life because the immigrants brethren appear to be imposing their will to our detriment.

    BUT…Barbados never made themselves a nation builder and imposed their will on the rights of other nations as the US and indeed France and others in Europe did…. if it was ‘their will be done’ then so it be now, handle the consequences.

    Payback is always a bad ‘itch!


  24. Mr BushTea, I love it when we agree. LOL.

    Just saw your note. As I wrote, Henri Christophe and Touissaint L’Ouverture came roaring to mind.

    That victory was sweet in de goat mout but my gawd the French made that a bitter gall that has been centuries in the bowels…

  25. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    The French haven’t won a war since the defeat of Napoleon. And the francophone african stooges and puppets, still kowtow to them, giving them a veneer of of prestige and military might in the world.


  26. Don’t you guys know that France continues to do to the 11 or so African Francophone countries what they did to Haiti?


  27. DavidDavid

    Correct….Macron should win and his headache will be June’s elections and fielding candidates….will he convert to a party??


  28. How France makes the former African French colonies pay penance today…..

    https://thisisafrica.me/france-loots-former-colonies/

  29. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @Gabriel. The biggest african puppet to the French was Felix H. Boigny of the Ivory coast. He institutionalised the notion of francafrique.


  30. ” We are new, we are fresh but we are rooted in the principles of the Barbados Labour Party of 1938 and the spirit of transformation of Grantley Adams.”

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/04/23/blp-fresh-and-ready-mottley/

  31. Vincent Haynes Avatar

    I wonder how many are aware that Touissant L’Overture was the role model for Washington Pitt Franklyn the illegitimate son of Baileys Pltns owner who was disenfranchised on his fathers death and was responsible for putting together a force to overthrow the then govt and establish a kingdom……what we falsely refer to as the Bussa rebelion.

    Bim has too many false stories that we need to be truthfull about before we can move forward.

    Our National Hero should be London Bourne….entrepreneur par excellence….against the odds…..an African who owned slaves and indentureds,as well as a shipping company that trafficked with his fellow Africans in the slave trade…..it was the business of the day.


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  33. David,
    Why do you allow this woman to use BU to promote her business. Her rantings are silly. The implications of a Le Pen victory are simple: she want to take France out of the EU. And unlike Brexit, a Frexit will spell the end of the EU since Germany would almost certainly do a Trinidad (remember Eric Williams when Bustamante withdrew Jamaica from the Federation?).
    That will be all that we need to know. The multilateral agreements we have with the EU will die and we will have to open bilateral talks with the 27 (8) separate nations.
    There is nothing else of technical interest. In terms of the French departments (Gaudeloupe, Martinique, etc) it will b business as usual.


  34. Vincent,
    The biggest national myth is that of the role played by Barrow in our independence. He was in the right place at the right time.


  35. Forty,

    I understand you, but no. India has one of the biggest illiterate populations in the world, it also has one of the bet educated groups of scientists, mathematicians and technologists in the world. The same with China.
    You will be surprised at the number of Brits and Americans who are illiterate and innumerate. In Britain, in a little known scheme, the government now offers free lessons in English and maths to those above school leaving age; on average very few people take up the offer, including black people.
    To get a job as a min-cab driver (a form of taxi) drivers musts now have Level two English. The world is changing. It is global competition. That is why instead of taking cheap money from the Chinese, the govt should have invited them to teach maths in our schools.
    Remember the old saying||: give a man a fish, you feed him for a day; teach him to fish, you feed him for life.

  36. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    “David,
    Why do you allow this woman to use BU to promote her business. Her rantings are silly. ”

    Hal…….you can be so very disrespectful to the blog master and unnecessarily so to other bloggers, why dont you start your own blog with Carl Moore…..

    …….you do not go into people’s houses and tell them who to invite or if they should have anonymous bloggers, the female is not anonymous, but because you are hellbent on pushing your own dumb, destructive agendas, you want her gone from the blog….that is so rude.

    What is wrong with you. Your rantings outside the subject matters are so uncalled for.

    I dont see you complaining about Loveridge.

  37. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    It’s the African leaders, the weak black leader’s responsibility to destroy the strangle hold that France is trying to keep in Africa to feed off the African population and the continent’s rich filled resources, like the parasites they have been for centuries on the earth. …..

    …black leaders continue to allow the french to be parasites on the backs of Blacks on the continent, somewhat like the relationship with the dumb DBLP government ministers and the few minority crooks on the island, but on a grander, centuries old scale…….

    The AU heads need to work harder to get rid of the french parasites from the African continent..

    …..white french people are lazy and would prefer steal, enslave and kill, rather than do an honest day’s work…..les Français ont toujours été les sauvages les plus bas et les plus viles……the best thing about the french is the beauty of the language.

    On another note, the black government of South Africa have a responsiblity to the 30 million majority Blacks to draft legislation and make it illegal for the 3 million white savages in that African country to never be allowed to practice racism, apartheid and the evil that resides in their hearts ever again, there should be serious consequences with prison time attached to that evil that is rearing it’s ugly head again……

    …..weak black leaders cause these problems for their own people…they seem to never learn….it will however be very different this time around for white racists….the younger generation of blacks will not tolerate racism like their foreparents did.


  38. I am sorry, but what is disrespectful about questioning a commenter who is apparently using the forum to promote a business, rather than participate in debate?
    If that I how it comes across, then I apologise.

  39. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Hal.., she is participating in debate and giving information that some are not aware.

    Loveridge always promotes his tourism business for himself and others on the blog, no one complains unless he oversteps in a way that is not favorable to the majority population, as what he posts……. it’s also meant to benefit the island, however little…..

    …..you may want to view the young lady in the same light, her posts might cause something to stick, something to change to benefit the majority pooulation….we can all learn something..

  40. Vincent Haynes Avatar

    Hal

    I agree with you on EWB and independence.

    This country is full of myths,lies and damn lies…..we are the original purveyors of fake-news.

  41. Vincent Haynes Avatar

    Alicia

    Interesting and informative article as usual…..what are your thoughts on Le Pen getting rid of all of their Colonies?


  42. Vincent
    It won’t happen.As Donald Trump before her she is playing on people’s emotions and again like Trump the lunatic in waiting,she will back track,hesitate and change her mouthings.France is nowhere without its colonies.The irony of it all is its the colonized resident non whites which cause the social mayhem.A catch 22.


  43. @Hal, your critique of Ms Nicholls is booming hypocrisy. I agree totally with WW&C particularly the last part of the sentence that “she is participating in debate and giving information that some are not aware”.

    In addition to her Loveridge point your hypocrisy also explodes because surely you would have facilitated this exact type of expert feature in your years in the media business.

    Your paper would have tapped knowledge leaders who wrote opinion pieces (with all their credentials in full glare) or as you guys started to move into more web interface certainly expert views were displayed on website podcasts and so on.

    So what if David tangentially promotes caribbeantradelaw by offering her opinions here.

    When things go overboard we can react accordingly but otherwise your slip of hypocrisy is definitely showing.

    Now on your 2:27 AM post there is basic agreement…though it’s terribly cliched to say simply that he was in the right place and time. Was Churchill so located too?

    After all he was the man for a war and was discarded like a old tire as the country rolled on to peaceful life.

    No @Vincent the info about Barrow and Independence is NOT fake news.

    Yes it makes him the leading star where admittedly other stars do not get the widespread acclaim he often does but that does not make the narrative FAKE.

    ALL historical stories have a slant towards a main character.

    And just so we are clear here is an example of ‘real’ fake news:

    http://cnn-channel.com/donald-trump-signs-a-visa-free-travel-policy-for-barbados/

    That’s the type of utterly dangerous BS that permeates.

    And what is truly scary is that the freaking Pres of the USA is a consumer and amplifier-in-Chief of that level of info from people like the Alex Jones of this world who believe and disseminate similar baloney…no wonder so many people get taken in with these things.

  44. Vincent Haynes Avatar

    dpD

    Never said anything about fake-news with EWB a man I knew.

    It is a separate line like this one is and bearing no relevance to the above line like this one is not doing…..my point is that fake-news abounds in Bim from Bussa coming forward.

  45. Vincent Haynes Avatar

    dpD

    Let me elaborate on EWB and independence….right here on BU,I think it was Caswell that showed us documentation to the efect that independence was already a work in progress when EWB assumed office and it was based on the Colonial power after WW2 agreeing to shed itself of its colonies.


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    Jamaica – 7.21%

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  47. LOL @Vincent, you must excuse me bro but if you say: “Hal I agree with you on EWB and independence. This country is full of myths,lies and damn lies…..we are the original purveyors of fake-news” then you are linking fake-news back to EWB and independence.

    But no issue. I get your main thrust.

    Hope you appreciate mine that story telling – even factual historical recapitulation- will still create a protagonist. It makes the dry narrative more interesting.

    And to be brutally blunt anyone like yourself who was exposed to a rather decent secondary education long ago appreciated the point Caswell (or whomever) made, well before it was recast.

    Independence was on the cards as our neighboring island showed. Barrow went to university with the entire cadre of regional leaders who developed out of that era thus it is practical, rational and reasonable to expect that they discussed all that and more while studying and discussed it more stridently between themselves when they returned to their respective home (imagine if social media was available then, LOL).

    So most surely the Hon EWB did or could not have originated independence all by his lonesome self….but that does not make any of the narrative of him being ‘our father of independence’ or others like it ” a myth, lies, damn lies…[or anyone] purveyors of fake-news”.

    Just a sweetly slanted recap with him as the national icon.

    It does not change the reality of what happened in any way.

    Hope we are on the same page now. I gone.


  48. de pedantic,

    Ignoring the irrelevant parts of your contribution, the fact is that at the Bretton Woods talks, the UK, led by John Maynard Keynes, offered to exchange Trinidad, Jamaica and Guyana in exchange for the post-war loan. Instead, the US negotiating team forced Britain to give its colonies their freedom.
    The result was that Cyprus, Israel, India, and later Ghana and others were offered their independence. In the Caribbean, it was generally agreed that the islands could not sustain independence, so the federation was proposed. We all know how that ended.
    When Barbados gained its independence the Foreign and Colonial Office had already been in talks.
    By the way, Britain won the war yet its debt to GDP ratio was 250 per cent, by 1960 it had dropped to 100 per cent.
    All these papers are in the Library of Congress.

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  49. Vincent Haynes Avatar

    dpD

    Chuckle…..we must agree that one cannot be a biological father if one did not inseminate….presumably one could adopt the mantle of guardian of the new born……hence referring to EWB as the father can be viewed as either an untruth or a myth.

    We are on the same page nevertheless.


  50. @Hants, most Jamaicans drink theirs, comme moi.

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