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Caswell Franklyn, Head of Unity Workers Union
Caswell Franklyn, Head of Unity Workers Union

In an effort to recover monies owed to the Student Revolving Loan Fund by delinquent borrowers, the Student Revolving Loan Fund Management Committee (Committee) has resorted to naming and shaming delinquents by publishing their names in the print media. I wish the Committee well in its efforts but I am afraid that it is going to be difficult to shame persons who seem to be devoid of any conscience. They made use of the funds and now have no compunction about not repaying so that others can benefit, as they did.

Many of these heartless defaulters had asked friends and family members to be guarantors. Now that the loans are in arrears, these kind-hearted souls are left holding the bag and are required to repay the debt. Unfortunately, in many cases, the guarantors are retired public officers who rely solely on their pensions to keep body and soul together. And now without showing any mercy, the Committee has issued instructions to the Accountant General to garnish their pensions.

I do not know if the Accountant General has acted upon those instruction but the Committee will soon find out, if they have not already done so, that it has no authority to issue those instructions.

Pensions granted to retired public officers are intended to maintain the pensioners’ quality of life, and can only be levied upon in very limited circumstances. Regrettably, satisfying another person’s commitments to the Student Revolving Loan Fund does not qualify. Section 15 of the Pensions Act states:

15. A pension, gratuity or other allowance granted under this Act shall not be assignable or transferable except for the purpose of satisfying

(1) a debt due to the Crown or a debt due to the Housing Authority under the Public Officers Housing Loan Fund Rules, 1958;

(2) an order of any court for the periodical payment of sums of money towards the maintenance of the wife or former wife or minor child of the officer to whom the pension, gratuity or other allowance has been granted, and shall not be liable to be attached, sequestered or levied upon for or in respect of any debt or claim whatever except a debt due to the Crown or a debt due to the Housing Authority under the Public Officers Housing Loan Fund Rules, 1958.

The Student Revolving Loan Fund is not the wife or minor child of any of the guarantors and it is certainly not the Crown. It is a statutory board established by section 3 of the Student Revolving Loan Fund Act. Section 4 established the Student Revolving Loan Fund Management Committee, and goes on to say at subsection (2):

“The Committee shall be a body corporate and section 21 of the Interpretation Act, Cap. 1 applies thereto”.

For the purposes of this article, part of subsection (1) is relevant, it states:

21. (1) Where an Act passed after the 16th June 1966, contains words establishing, or providing for the establishment of, a body corporate and applying this section to that body those words shall operate-

(a) to vest in that body when established-

(i) the power to sue in its corporate name;

(ii) the power to enter into contracts in its corporate name, and to do so that, in relation to third parties, the body shall be deemed to have the same power to make contracts as an individual has;…

This does not mean that a guarantor, who is a government pensioner, does not have to repay the loan in the event that the borrower fails to honour his/her commitments to the fund. It means that the Committee would have to take those pensioners/guarantors to court to see if they have any means to pay, other than their pensions.

While I condemn, in the strongest terms, those borrowers who refuse to repay their debt to the Student Revolving Loan Fund, the Committee must share in the blame for accepting men of straw to be guarantors.


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130 responses to “The Caswell Franklyn Column – Student Revolving Loan Fund: Guarantors Left Holding the Bag”


  1. Bajans

    Re: your comment at 11:00

    If people borrowed money from the Government an refuse to pay, you are correct when you said that the Government can garnish their pensions. Unfortunately, the money was not borrowed from the Government: the lending agency in this case is the Student Revolving Loan Fund (SRLF) which is a separate legal entity outside of the Government.

    The SRLF is not the Crown (Government) and cannot therefore garnish the pension of a former public officer.

    Sent from my iPad


  2. Well
    well,
    People who “invested” in the EPA and/or EFPA did not borrow the money: or agree to loans. Of course some of these might have illegally “used” the money from funds they were managing to agree to purchase the instruments, but you have to be crazy to try to equate A Loan for which a person cosigned with those who put money in these instruments.


  3. Caswell, it may be a separate entity. However, it does/did not get its funding by Divine Intervention and certainly not from the private sector or some rich benefactor. My understanding is that this entity comes under the Ministry of Education and is/was funded by government. Therefore, it is Crown money and a Crown entity. You are a unionist and will split hairs, I see it vertically.

    For example, Canada Post is a business corporation, with a President, etc. A separate entity. Operates for profit like any other business with no assistance/interference from government. However, it is a Crown Corporation.


  4. Instead of trying to pick peas out of shiite

    We should be more concentrated on the larger issues.

    Bajans over-and-way don’t even have the right to vote but it is to be a good ideas to send international bailiffs after them.

    We’ll bet the total indebtedness over the years must be less than 20MM dollars. It represents a pittance compared with the losses internally induced.

    But our own government at home can give the equivalent of billions to others and there is to be no way to stop that. Or invest NIS money in white elephants and no necks are sent looking for shoulders, B. Clarke.

    Bajans can’t even get government to privatize any economic areas to co-operatives.

    The most recent ways of stealing, officially, are these guarantees passed by Parliament. The garbage fiasco, the hotel subsidies etc. Our foci are properly located there.

    Well, we know that Caswell is nobody’s friend when it comes to these matters, large and small, but the investigation of petty thieffing, especially by poor people who can’t pay back at all, should certainly be beneath him.

    If we could cut off the heads, pun intended, of a few big crooks the body politic will respond accordingly. LOL


  5. There are people in this society who knows how well to pull the tail of the tiger when they think the tiger is asleep until one day the tiger wakes up and mauled their back side Caswell is one such person using legal gymnastics to divert attention away from those who are duty bound to pay the monies borrowed from the SRLF monies which is govt funded by way of taxpayers money ,


  6. @Pacha

    Agree with you that the racket being generated by this matter when compared to the humdreds of millions owed to the NIS Fund and VAT pales in comparison.


  7. no it is not peas or Sh..t we dealing with but the taxpayers money dont try playing glib in your approach does not matter the size or who owes what . For sure you would not by pass a friend or a family member who owes you money and when asked use the flippant excuse as a reminder of who owes you the most , i guess when the problem does not affect individually all the excuses in existence would be given as a refreshers course


  8. To lend weight to bajans interpretation,the SRLF is managed by a public servant,an officer of the Crown and the direction comes from the MoE.Some years ago I received a letter from the SRLF as a guarantor for a nephew’s loan.I made one phone call to the offending nephew and a suitably worded threat to make a call to his boss.The matter was resolved without further ado.


  9. @David

    Our attention was drawn to an article in the Nation, Sunday – front page

    Seems as though a Bajan is to face some embarrassment for dreaming about things of which he knows not. LOL

    But that a hundred more people could be so mislead speaks to the level of desperation locally.

    Reading between the lines it appears to us that the sponsor of this ‘missive’ was himself deceived by others unseen, poor fellow!

    There is a dire need to carefully read what is happening in political-economy matters. ‘These days for funny nights.’

    The absence of which leads to this. And more will follow.


  10. @Pacha

    Not too worried about the 97 moreso the two lawyers and a retired banker who were duped. Some potential employees are more equal than others.

  11. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David September “Agree with you that the racket being generated by this matter when compared to the humdreds of millions owed to the NIS Fund and VAT pales in comparison.”

    That is exactly the type argument that drives the awesome narrative of the Bernie Sanders which generates so much interest. It’s a valid argument one must admit…as how can we get over wrought by non-payment of average Marys and Daves when money flying off willy-nilly at the Cave, Edu-tech, CLICO etc etc.

    Everyone working and not servicing their outstanding loan is likely using that line of logic: why should I pay this when the big boys stealing so much money.

    BUT, Mr Blogmaster when do we start cracking some eggs and frying someone.

    Chicken and egg…egg and chicken. These are some of the folks who will likely have a career working for our political establishment. So how the ‘bad word’ do we expect to EVER get some honesty in the frigging system.

    Like Bernie and Pacha and you, I rail against the real big-money culprits. But I still will get down on my ‘grand-son’ to start repaying the loan his ole-lady cosigned rather than taking that exorbitant relaxation trip to South Africa. At 23 what relaxation he need so far away. Take a cheap trip to Cuba or DR do!

    But everybody jucking we in the eyes, just so…so why should the little man be honest and pay his debt. That is just so 1960s Barrowish. Oh lawd!

  12. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @ Caswell, I don’t quite understand why section 21 of the Interpretation Act, Cap. 1 makes the SRLF not a Crown entity. It gives them the power to transact business under their own corporate identity, but surely this ability is shared by a host of Crown entities.


  13. @Dee Word

    We all agree wrong is wrong however justice must always be seen to be done. If the small man down the ladder observes that government is practising even-handedness and fairness how decisions are being taken then it becomes a whole lot easier to collect from them. Let us take the Auditor General reports for example where millions are leaking to the Jane and Johns. The Trans Tecs, the paying of $15,000 per week for a tractor, the payment of 26 million from the HCF to pay Maloney and the apartments still closed for over a year. In the meantime Sinckler is busy signing letters to small contractors promising that they will be paid soon.

    On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Barbados Underground wrote:

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  14. Gabriel

    You are misleading yourself and BU as a result. You stated that the SRLf is managed by a public servant. That is true only to the extent that a person who serves the public could be described as a public servant. You seem to be mixing up public servant and public officer.

    Public officers are employed by the Public Service Commission, under power it derives from section 94 of the Barbados Constitution. Staff of the SRLF might give public service but they are not public officers. They are employed by the statutory board called, “the Student Revolving Loan Fund Management Committee

    Sent from my iPad


  15. Similar to the non repayment of the Student Revolving Loan Scheme, is the BWA’s and by extension the Barbados Government demanding, maffia style payments for water services rendered to the people of St Joseph,who has not had a proper delivery of water for almost 2 years now. Their monthly water bills are considerable higher than those non affected residents in Christ Church ,and like areas A thief from a thief, makes the devil cry.

  16. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    @Colonel.
    Good to see you….

    “Their monthly water bills are considerable higher than those non affected residents in Christ Church”.

    Surely you jest.


  17. i really get a lol out of David BU with his exorbitant political grandstanding .

    Bring in the orchestra please!


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  19. Caswell
    I know of what I speak.The letter sent to me is by a public servant who is still in the Service.
    Perhaps it is the type of post to which the civil servant was seconded and that person was in the MoE before assuming the role at the SRLF.

  20. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    So eho is going to pay back the NIS pension fund the 60 million US dollars for Cow and Bizzy’s 4 Seasons scam.

  21. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin…tiefing is tiefing.., the matter is in court, if Parris was oit tiefing…there is no way in hell the matter would end up in ciurt.,, there is a judgement on appeal….for him to repay money HE STOLE from CLICO…stop trying to make this about the victims/policyhokders…they have not been charged with anything or out in court for any crime…they did nothing wrong…you so and so yardfowl.


  22. I read the story of the guarantors last week and was truly moved………I felt so sorry for those people.

    I must say that myself and my spouse have been very lucky…….I signed for a friend’s daughter and my spouse signed for a friend ……….thankfully they both repaid the monies.

    The SRLF needs to find out where these defaulters work and write to their employers and shame them……after all that may not be too hard………everyone knows someone who knows someone and plus these days people put all their business on social media.


  23. Peter

    Section 21 operates to give an entity a separate legal personality from the Government. If you are suing the Crown, the Attorney General is the defendant. For example, if you car’s wheel is broken off in a pothole the proper defendant is the AG. On the other hand, you have to name the Student Revolving Loan Fund Management Committee if that entity is the defendant.

    Sent from my iPad


  24. WW&C
    As far as I can recall Parris is represented by Batman in one matter and Robin in the other case,that is Gollop and Smith and you know how they love to appeal and appeal and appeal.They even appeal a CCJ ruling to the same CCJ and Sir Byron cite them asses and Batman went on DLPTV cussing the CCJ and tell other Caribbean states don’t join that court.Can you imagine that kind o thinking.Its called sour grapes and no doubt the Parris JA will be getting the same old,same old.

  25. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Gabriel…Parris, Gollop and Smith keep tying up the courts with their frivolous scams and delays….all 3 of them should be locked up.

    I know Amused will take issue with that, but he too takes offense at all the court delays perpetrated by jackass lawyers and judges.


  26. The crux of the matter is honesty. So let’s also get the list of present and past MPs who have refused and continue to refuse to pay their taxes. Let’s get the list of present Parliamentarians who before they were MPs and had their private businesses refused to pay the requisite taxes. Its persons like you, mot just those that refused to repay the revolving loans. that robbed the Treasury.


  27. Anonymouse – TheGazer September 11, 2016 at 5:27 PM #
    A few months ago, before I was fitted with a so-called smart meter, my monthly bill on average,was $30. Some residents in Sugar Hill ,at that time, had bills of almost $40. some even higher.


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  29. where are the tax returns? where are child care credit ? where is Barack money ? where is Violet Beckles money? ,where is the NIS money and they to lead by what? Fraud,
    How can someone who dont pay their bills force you to pay yours? that they create ? As the Ministers pay goes up so does your taxes and vat in line with their pension, Hall your asses, Everybody fat all the food gone , but yet the food gone,We not hungry we just pick.

  30. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/85408/clico-investors-dying

    That is exactly what Fruendel and his Fowls like Alvin are waiting for….all the poor, ekderly pensioners who had all their money stolen by the tief Leroy Parris, to die out so they will not get a dime back.

  31. millertheannunaki Avatar

    @ Well Well & Consequences September 12, 2016 at 8:10 AM

    These student loan defaulters are of the same moral mould as those to whom the leader of the corrupt pack of demonic lying parasites gave succour and advice.

    Do you remember the famous expressions of loyalty to the devil of dishonesty?
    โ€˜The man [Greenverbs Leroy P] is not leper. He is my close friend and an estimable gentleman with an impeccable track record as an astute and successful business manโ€™.

    โ€˜My friend Michel Carry-away-a-ton is not only an honourable member of this august chamber but also a well-established and learned attorney-at-law and if he is wrongfully accused of stealing a pensionerโ€™s money then I would โ€˜genuinelyโ€™ advise him to get a lawyer (preferably one more crooked than he) in order to tell that disabled old fart Gruffudd the Griffin to โ€˜karryaway a ton of he mudda scunt before the speaker pulls a pit-bull gun on him and sends him to the committee of stalemate to die a most dishonourably inevitable death.

    Donโ€™t you think with that kind of moral instruction to outstanding members of the Bajan society that socially less responsible members might just have the impression the student revolving fund is just like the NIS to be used by the current administration as a piggybank to dish out largesse to their friends and elections sponsors like the mark baloneys of the grotto?

  32. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Lol…Miller…the leaders are morally bankrupt, they have no souls or empathy for those who do not want their favors or to become their emptyheaded yardfowls, true sociopaths.

    They ministers do not accept responsibility for their own actions that hurt the economy and people…., but want to blame mothers for their hardheaded son’s behaviors, when those sons are emulating the behaviors of the leaders in parliament.

  33. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    And I should add that the defaulters who are not paying their debt to student revolving are definitely emulating the leaders in parliament who hate to pay debts to people on the island….as Miller said, Fruendel $ Co are supposed to lead by example…but dont.

  34. millertheannunaki Avatar

    @ Well Well & Consequences September 12, 2016 at 9:24 AM

    You ought to tell that nitwit Braffit the absurd gorilla (ag) looking boy that since guns are not made in Bim he should look for the source of their importation by looking at the same covered-up investigation into the importation of the illegal condemned chicken wings.


  35. When yuh grow up hearing yuh old gran mudda singing โ€œTrust and doan payโ€ and there are no shopkeepers around yuh look fuh de next target and if it happens to be the guvmunt yuh pratice de Italian salute โ€œtwo middle fingersโ€ in its direction.

    Long live Bim life too sweet, too too sweet.

  36. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Miller….we been saying that on here for months, if they lock up the importers, the source, if they cooperate with outside agencies that have the technology…..ask their assistance in finding the local importers of the guns in Barbados….the amounts of guns imported will be eliminated…ergo, less guns on the streets, but Adriel Nitwit and Fruendel know why they do not want the guns off the streets…or they would ask for help and coordinate with outside agencies in tracking down the well funded gun runners and importers…who are not the boys on the block.

    If they would put cameras in the port at the airport, seaports and monitor customs completely, if they would put cameras at port st. Charles and port ferdinand and coordinate with outside agencies that have the technology to catch the gun runners entering those ports, who will also be decked out with drugs….but Adriel Nitwit and Fruendel do not want to do so and they know why….all they do is complain and claim that they are not to blame.

  37. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    As for Dumbville and his fraudulent nastiness, he will also get his, no one trusts him.


  38. Therefore WW&C,the first order of business is to remove Bjerkhamm,Maloney,Williams 1&2,Tempro and Leacock from the inner circle where they are privy to all the inner workings of the security forces.


  39. Well Well & Consequences September 12, 2016 at 8:10 AM #

    โ€œThat is exactly what Fruendel and his Fowls like Alvin are waiting forโ€ฆ.all the poor, elderly pensioners who had all their money stolen by the tief Leroy Parris, to die out so they will not get a dime back.โ€

    @ WW&C

    I recall that, in March 2015 during his contribution to the debate on the 2015/2016 Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure in the House of Assembly, Freundel Stuart, with a โ€œsmugโ€ look on his face, revealed he had a list of the names of those individuals who invested in CLICOโ€™s EFPA plan, while implying they may have been involved in some sort of financial impropriety.

    โ€œ. . . Wait. There is going to be a lot to be said on this. Do not mistake my silence for an incapacity to speak. The time will come when all things will be made clear and explained. I ainโ€™t saying anything yet,โ€ Stuart said.

    โ€œHe added: โ€œI have a list . . . of all of the persons who invested in the Executive Flexible Premium Annuity, but I ainโ€™t saying nothing yet. I know all the people who EARNING QUICK MONEY, who were ENTRANCED by the LURE of ATTRACTIVE INTEREST RATES. I know them, I have all of the namesโ€.

    โ€œThe Prime Minister gave no indication of the nature of the suggested wrongdoing by persons named on the said list, but HINTED that the investment might have QUESTIONABLE LEGAL STANDING.โ€ [Source: Barbados Today, March 17, 2015]

    Against this background, I hope Stuart has other lists in his possession that he plans to soon expose as well.

    As it relates to CLICO and investments that may have โ€œquestionable legal standing,โ€ I hope Stuart ALSO has a LIST of the names of those INDIVIDUALS who INVESTED in the CLICO Balanced Fund, which Senator JEPTAR INCE was INSTRUMENTAL in ESTABLISHING in the year 2000.

    Surely Stuart should remember that Ince, as FUND MANAGER, and one of the Fundโ€™s directors, now Ambassador TONY MARSHALL, were ENCOURAGING Barbadians to BORROW money from CLICO Mortgage & Finance Corporation to INVEST in the CLICO Balanced Fund. Interestingly, by 2006 the CBF had declined by 5%.

    Perhaps Stuart may be of the view that those individuals were NOT โ€œentranced by the lure of attractive interest rates,โ€ because Ince and Marshall were not involved in any โ€œinvestments that might have questionable legal standing.โ€ If this was the case, Ince would not be APPOINTED as a Senator and Parliamentary Secretary in the Ministry of Finance or Marshall would not have been REWARDED with appointments to the NIS Board or as an Ambassador.

    Ironically, Stuart mentioned โ€œpeople who were entranced by the lure of attractive interest rates.โ€ Yet government is โ€œLURINGโ€ Barbadians at home and in the Diaspora to buy government savings bonds, which are being sold at โ€œATTRACTIVE INTEREST RATES,โ€ as a result of Barbadosโ€™ numerous credit rating downgrades.

    More importantly, I hope Freundel has a LIST, to share with Leroy Parris, of the CLICO investors who subsequently died before being reimbursed by CLICO.

  40. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Gabriel….exactly, those named should not be having any information about national security or be present at any such meetings…re coordinating with outside agencies to grt rid of the gun and drug runners, money launderers and human traffickers… that would defeat the whole purpose. …

    ……..it’s only high level law enforcement officers should know what’s going on so it would be easy to pinpoint who works for the same gun and drug runners..

    You see now why Fruendel and Adriel Nitwit dont want to involve outside agencies…like Mia and the same named, with trying to get rid of social media out of Barbados….they are protecting the criminals they know are involved.

  41. millertheannunaki Avatar

    @ Artax September 12, 2016 at 11:02 AM #
    โ€œIronically, Stuart mentioned โ€œpeople who were entranced by the lure of attractive interest rates.โ€ Yet government is โ€œLURINGโ€ Barbadians at home and in the Diaspora to buy government savings bonds, which are being sold at โ€œATTRACTIVE INTEREST RATES,โ€ as a result of Barbadosโ€™ numerous credit rating downgrades.โ€

    One might be tempted to say these so-called investment grade bonds being peddled by Deliar are no more safe than the same EFPAs the man Fumble is now decrying.
    The same conditions that forced CLICO to push junk paper to the greedy and gullible now exist with the GoB.

    What we want to hear about are not condemnations of the EFPA gamblers but those who were sold โ€˜guaranteedโ€™ life insurance policies and were, as part of their employment contracts, forced to become members of their employersโ€™ occupational pension schemes.

  42. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    The insurance industry in Barbados is a scam, when you get robbed by the criminals managing these companies, you have little to no recourse in the compromised and corrupt court system…people be warned.

    Your best bet is to expose everything they are doing, let everyone know.

  43. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Art….Stuart is a liar and hypocrite, he himself claimed he has policies with CLICO, so his name should be on that list he is waving around…..Leroy Parris and his lying insurance representatives targeted clico policyholders in their 70s and 80s because they knew these people would not bother their heads…..at their advanced ages….investigating the new policies or the representatives they know and trust for years…..

    They knew they eere going to rob those elderly people, Parris knew he was selling those policies…illegally.

    Both governments were warned by the supervisor of insurance that Parris was selling policies illegally…they ALL ignored the criminal activities and allowed Parris to steal from senior citizens and launder the stolen money, helped by his sidekicks.

    Fruendel should be ashamed.


  44. Well Well: Miller, Artax,

    “…Fruendel should be ashamed…”
    “..Both governments were warned by the supervisor of insurance…”
    Since when was Freundel responsible for the actions and activities of the BLP?
    You also say:”…they knew these people would not bother their headsโ€ฆ..at their advanced agesโ€ฆ.investigating the new policies or the representatives they know and trust for yearsโ€ฆ..”
    How many fund managers; much younger, took the money under their management and bought those instruments?

    Each individual is responsible for his own welfare.

    It is stated in the New Testament: Remove the beam from your own eye before you seek the mote in another person’s eye.


  45. Miller:
    Are you serious? After years of trying to deny it you finally come and admit that the people who bought these instruments were gamblers who were looking for quick return you have the nerve to say: “What we want to hear about are not condemnations of the EFPA gamblers….” Why not condemn them, especially if they used funds under their management to “gamble” with?


  46. Gabriel,
    Is this the same Leacock that people like you were touting to be leader of a third party?

  47. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin…people are learning the hard way that insurance companies and their “investments” are SCAMS….all of them, they are being warned to keep their money out of insurance companies when their reps and CEOs come around with their mouths filled with lies.

    If Leroy Parris was not so dishonest, he would not now be fighting a court case, trying to keep stolen money because when he loses the appeal, he will be arrrested….FOR THEFT.

    If Fruendel was not so dishonest, he stood a chance of winning the next election….but he WONT.

    I dont see me havng to defend myself in court forv stealing policyholders money….so speak for thyself….I am not the one looking as old as the same policyholders Parris stole from while Fruendel enabled, condoned and tried to justify the robbery of senior citizens.


  48. Well Well

    Why are you not getting it (A)lvin (C)ummins = AC. I won’t be surprised if he is not the original AC


  49. Alvinโ€ฆpeople are learning the hard way that insurance companies and their โ€œinvestmentsโ€ are SCAMSโ€ฆ.all of them, they are being warned to keep their money out of insurance companies when their reps and CEOs come around with their mouths filled with lies.
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    Really

    What a bunch of malarkey

  50. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Caswell…Alvin is a weak and horrible excuse for a human….him and all the ACs combined.

    It will be wonderful to see them all in the boneyard where they belong, after elections, they can spread their blight right there.

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