Tribute to Muhammad Ali

Submitted by Afra Raymond
Muhammad Ali

Muhammad Ali – 1942 to 2016

Cassius Clay, later Muhammad Ali, was an iconic, irrepressible example to us growing up in the disputed diaspora…We are now hearing that Ali died last night, Friday 3rd June 2016, although my mood had shifted to a sombre, reflective space a few days ago with the news of his hospitalisation…To me, Muhammad Ali epitomised the vogue expression ‘out of the box’, even before that phrase was invented…He represented a kind of constant restless wrestling with destiny and possibility…he showed us the limits of possibility and, in overstepping those, showed us the importance of dreaming and the necessity of trying to break out of the boxes of racism, imperialism and the many overlapping isms with which we are beset…he used his fists, his fine mind and his exquisite lyrical ability to rank with the best…Ali’s autobiography ‘The Greatest’ (authored by the late Alex Haley of ‘Roots’ fame) remains one of the top-ten non-fiction epics I have read since its publication almost 40 years ago…it ranks with ‘The Black Jacobins’; ‘Capitalism and Slavery’; ‘How Europe Underdeveloped Africa’; ‘Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee’…those are all true epics for the ages, so that is some measure of the man…The movie of the same title also remains a classic, with the title song by George Benson ‘The Greatest Love’, remaining in my top-three of contemporary music of sheer beauty and power…

Finally, I have to say that Ali always seemed to me to be one of those Midnight Robbers of Yore, telling it like it was in outrageous, unmatchable verse…here is a short one from one of the many effusive obituaries published this morning –

I done wrassled with an alligator
I done tussled with a whale
Handcuffed lightnin’, threw thunder in jail
Only last week I murdered a rock
Injured a stone, hospitalized a brick
I’m so mean I make medicine sick

Ali, the Diasporic Boukman!

Note from the BU Blogmaster – Cassius Clay, later Muhammad Ali suffered from Parkinson’s Disease. Here is a presentation from Dr. GP to take the opportunity when we will have an increased focus on this ailment.

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  • @ Hopi

    To she of the people with no word in their language for time, and mindful of the tenet of your song so aptly chosen, I bow to the wisdom of your counsel and desist from contending here in the memory of this warrior who has move on

    There shall be other cyber fora to speak of these other things.

    but to the memory of the Champ I doff my hat to a fearless warrior among the few that remain who do justice to us in our respective battlefields.

    A battle well fought, a race well run and a baton well guarded and safely passed for a new leg

    Rest in Peace Muhammad Ali

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Just saw a facebook post about Ali, stating without apology, that many of those who will be paying tribute to him in the next few days are the same ones who would crucify a 25 year old Ali in 2016 for doing what he did and saying what he said.

    It’s easy to weed out pretenders…for sure Ali will be remembered for hundreds of years going forward into the future…the legend of history books, not many can say the same. He is gone but the footprint is going nowhere.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Pieces, I am bemused by your treatment in last few posts. Why must we have an analog 1 or 0 discourse on Mohammad Ali’s rise to glory as compared to any other person whether a local ‘legend’ a la Cozier or any other?

    If, for example, US congressman John Lewis was to die tomorrow would we be here giving ANY praise. One iota???

    There is a man who has done as much over his life time for Black people in US and by extension the world over and fought racism personally and has the scars to show. But he has not one-tenth of the renown as the acclaimed greatest himself, Mohammad Ali.

    Not many a Bajan would recognize the name or have any real details on the man even if the name rings a bell.

    My point sir is that Mohammad Ali is undoubtedly a powerful comet…and there are many who are small stars with less blazing impact but yet provide lots of perennial light (that is borrowed by the way) so let’s praise Mohammad but remain real about the Coziers of this world and certainly the Lewis’s even more so, at the same time.

    @David, your 12:26 PM is a tad perplexing.

    Donald Trump is the living, breathing most brash demagogue of this moment. He actually embodies the PT Barnum showmanship of Mohammad Ali sans the integrity and deep intellect. So of course his death would put the local media on blast!!!

    The media exposure over Ali’s death has been stupendous around the world so to be frank who really cares how many column inches Keith Holder or Andi Thornhill or any other local scribe gives to him.

    Any Bajan can read copious words or see excellent video clips on this great man with the same facility as Ali floating like a butterfly in the ring…or go on myriad blogs and offer their two cents…just like me here now!

    Not sure why we need to worry about what the Nation, Advocate or BarbadosToday does on Mohammad Ali; but then again I am not in your spot so there may be more in your tea-leaves than I can grasp!

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Incidentally Pieces, Hopi cautioned me similarly a few day ago and I found it amusing.

    I would say this. Give to Mohammad Ali’s blog the same deference and respect given to any other. I have never read or heard that Mohammad Ali saw himself as a God above others – putting his showmanship braggadocio aside.

    So to debate commentary here about him can be done respectfully and with decorum. He was a man who enjoyed an intellectual verbal joust . But he also was a warrior in a brutal sport called boxing.

    If only we operated respectfully ALL THE TIME there would be absolutely NO NEED for Hopi’s admonitions.

    Just saying!!!

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  • @Dee Word

    It says a lot about our maturity as a society.

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  • @ Piece,

    I have already seen this excellent documentary on the BBC. Jack Johnson was infamous. Just like Ali we can all say what a man. He was the precursor to Ali. A genuine trail blazer, a dandy, a man with many talents and a man who ran the risk of being lynched simply because of what he represented: self-autonomy.

    Men such as Ali and Johnson were the ultimate “uppity” Negros. They have sadly been super ceded by the generic, prototype, modern day Negro: educated, spineless, cuckolded, timid and contented.

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  • ac June 7, 2016 at 6:22 PM #

    Well i have to stay mounted on my high horse and talk more sh,it about influence a word which was used to categorized certain political operatives a few days ago with derrogative connotations however what cannot be overlooked and denied is Angelo Dundee influence which provided the necessary credential of class added for good measure which took a little black boy and reformed and structured his life into a story of endless accolades and world wide respect not only did Angelo provide guidance to Ali professional but taught him and surrounded Ali with the best and brightest brains in the business world
    Today some of the rattle snake species here on BU would rather frown and denied Angelo Dundee influence in Ali life and rather look at the final result as the official count than to give respect where it is due some of which belongs to a man Angelo Dundee who help shape form and sculpted the life of the greatest a Man called Mohammed Ali

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  • @Piece……A very good frequency for spirit travel. Inadvertently sent the wrong one “Thina” Mudimo is beautiful for the Great One.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Exclaimer…the weakminded niggas was always around, those were the ones used to run and tell massa when the slaves were planning to escape or rebel, they made sure that their black brethern and sisteren were lynched, burned alive…..chased down and hunted like animals…..these are now their descendants you see with the pimp titles, messengers for buckingham palace, house niggas in parliament and yardfowls who cannot stray far away from or survive without massa…the curse yhat is their genetic memory.

    These are the obstructionists who are stopping the progress of the islands….just check out the Scotland scandal now developing around her, being one of buckingham palace’s house niggas, it’s worth monitoring, just to see the trend.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Well Well & Consequences June 7, 2016 at 8:12 PM #

    Given the amount of weakminded people we have all encountered on this blog, for me, over the last 3 years and as being currently advertised on US channels…..It takes strong people to make strong people…in contrast, weakminded people make others around them, who are not strong…..equally weakminded. Just imagine what happens to the children and grandchildren of the weakminded.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Exclaimer June 7, 2016 at 6:39 PM
    “I have already seen this excellent documentary on the BBC. Jack Johnson was infamous. Just like Ali we can all say what a man. He was the precursor to Ali. A genuine trail blazer, a dandy, a man with many talents and a man who ran the risk of being lynched simply because of what he represented: self-autonomy.”

    I too saw the Jack Johnson documentary some years ago.
    Jack ran the risk of being ‘lynched’ because he liked too much white pussy and made no bones about it.
    Do you know anything about another great boxer called the Brown Bomber? Can you recall any documentary about the Louis vs Schmeling racial rumble during the height of Nazism?

    I guess you have heard about another great black athlete Jess Owens who had to face similar racist challenges.

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  • Well Well,
    You commented:”…how have you applied what you saw and experienced in the US to the mentalities in Barbados to make things better….what have ya done to open people’s eyes and their consciousness. …..WHAT!!!!.”

    Read my three books: The Royal Palms Are Dying, The Wind Also Listens, Yeshua A.K.A. Jesus the Nazarene. Excerpts from one of my books were used as a test question in CXC English one year. Read my Play (You were too young to appreciate it when it was performed at the University at Cave Hill; “JaJa King of Opobo, (Google and learn who he was, I also wrote three Stage shows with Music, that were all performed, by the Barbados Festival Choir. ONE OF THEM WAS BASED ON GABBY’S SONG EMMERTON”.. I opened my own private MEDICAL LABORATORY, AT VERY REASONABLE RATES. I mentored someone A medical technologist, from conception of the idea; (mine), and his progress until he got his PhD. I gave freely of my time, knowledge and energy to the Fisherfolk for seven years, only just gave it up so that a younger person could take over. Want more of what I did? You asked so I am telling you, not boasting, but telling it like it is. Because I do things quietly does not mean that I don’t do things for my country and my people.I talk to young people constantly. For years I was mentor to two generations of young ladies who I took to school every day from the time they entered secondary school ; both generations entered Lester Vaughan, until they graduated. One young lady I encouraged, and she went to BCC and finally Cave Hill and will graduate this October with second class honours in Marketing.
    So wheel and come again

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin…Barbados is a small island…again, how did you apply what you learned in the US re human rights, independent thought, free spirit, standing up to racism, discrimination etc…to the island as a whole…I dont want to hear how you helped a couple people excel at school, any focused person can mentor others, it’s done for university credits in the bigger countries..by students, by police…remember PAL….it’s nothing new, I am talking at the level of a Huey Newton an Ali, but smaller scale….answer that and stop pretending ya dont understandl.

    Since you said you marched in the civil rights movement in the US….how did you apply that knowledge to make changes in Bim….cause I can tell you now, nothing has changed…if ya did, it did not work. I dont have to wheel…like Pedant…ya too easy.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Miller…what the yardfowls and othrrs dont understand….some from that very era..is that the Alis et al, opened doors formthe Jordans et al to be the saga boys that they are, they now have the freedom to fund charities, what those dudes like Ali experienced under raw hatred and racism in the US is not comparable to what Tiger and that lot experienced in the 80s and 90s, that was the backend to what the Panthers, Muslim nation et al endured in the frontline.

    I saw some photos of Ali meeting Prince some years ago and ya can read the magic between those 2…something that the shallow minded superficial black who is not conscious of their very own existence could never visualize or comprehend…even if they lived in the US under the beast that is racism and Jim Crow laws at its most evil….for a thousand years, that programming within many black minds cannot be decoded.

    Alvin claims to be this great author and even him cannot understand that….brain freeze.

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  • @Good Morning WW&C……………Gurl ya cruising fa a bruising ya know! Stop entertaining folly. Let others send their self-aggrandizements to Christine…This thread is about one MAN and one MAN only who has reached PERFECTION. Let them go elsewhere, PAS ICI!

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Hopi…we gotta make comparisons or we are going nowhere…..Ali was not singleminded we have to keep showing that there are no conscious black males left, even after his generation, to carry on the mantle…..Gettynews said it best. ..he was a one-off….check below and see what black males in leadership positions are good for only…in 2016..if we pound in into them enough we may get another Ali emerging.

    Alvin….you should be familiar with this dude, he used to be a councilman in the Bronx in the late 90s and 2000s…till he rose, now in handcuffs for being self-serving…..none are capable of sacrificing to send a message, take a stand or make that change for the better of the black society or be a role model that young black men can identify with…..read ALI….all are saga boys.

    http://ow.ly/kJJ83012R2c

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    And….CROOKS.

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  • Georgie Porgie

    re This thread is about one MAN and one MAN only who has reached PERFECTION

    WHAT UTTER RUBBISH! WHAT A LOAD OF COW’S WALLOP! CONCENTRATED BOVINE EXCREMENT!

    There is only man who has reached PERFECTION …….AND IT SIMPLY AINT CASSIUS CLAY

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    “As far as the establishment was concerned, Ali was blessed with the most dangerous quality of all – charisma. He had the uncanny ability to make you like and admire him even if you were didn’t agree with what he stood for. Even the KKK were susceptible to his charms.”

    Incomparable, unparalleled. …cannot be duplicated…the phenomenon that was Ali.

    The description above does not begin to tell what the world lost.

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  • THERE HAS ONLY BEEN ONE MAN WHO WAS PERFECT……….and it was not Cassius Clay…….tell muh dat I lie?
    WHAT BLASPHEMY!

    1 Peter 2:22

    WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS ANY DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH;

    2 Corinthians 5:21

    He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

    Hebrews 4:15

    For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin.

    Luke 1:35

    The angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God.

    1 John 3:5

    You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.

    Matthew 27:24

    When Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but rather that a riot was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd, saying, “I am innocent of this Man’s blood; see to that yourselves.”

    John 19:4

    Pilate came out again and said to them, “Behold, I am bringing Him out to you so that you may know that I find no guilt in Him.”

    John 8:29

    “And He who sent Me is with Me; He has not left Me alone, for I always do the things that are pleasing to Him.”

    Isaiah 53:9

    His grave was assigned with wicked men, Yet He was with a rich man in His death, Because He had done no violence, Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.

    1 Peter 1:18-19
    knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Georgie Porgie June 8, 2016 at 9:59 AM
    “There is only man who has reached PERFECTION …….AND IT SIMPLY AINT CASSIUS CLAY”

    Who says your minor desert god Yeshua the son of your major desert god Yahweh is not an incarnation of our Muhammad Ali the earthly son of Allah?
    Both worked miracles and stood for the same thing: the liberation (both physical and mental) of their people.

    BTW, Ali whopped and demeaned a man by the slave name Ernie Terrell for calling him Cassius Clay instead of Muhammad Ali.
    Insha’Allah, you will not suffer a similar fate!

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  • MILLER YOU ARE AN ILLOGICAL IDIOT
    YOU ARE TALKING THE SAME SORT OF SHITE CLAY USED TO TALK

    CLAY WORKED MIRACLES EH?
    LET HIM RISE FROM THE DEAD NOW………………LOL

    I REPEAT “There is only man who has reached PERFECTION …….AND IT SIMPLY AINT CASSIUS CLAY”

    STOP BLAPHEMING FELLAS

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Georgie Porgie June 8, 2016 at 10:53 AM

    You can only rise from the dead if you died in the first place. How can God die? Was the Devil in charge during that 3 day period of being in Hell?

    As for the miracle working, well let us say that Muhammad Ali was/is more ‘popular’ than your sweet Jesus not only among so-called worldly Christians but among the others who make up the global population.

    Clearly you must recognize that, as a man of medicine and science, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Communists and the myriad followers of other faiths are human beings too.

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  • RE Clearly you must recognize that, as a man of medicine and science, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Communists and the myriad followers of other faiths are human beings too.

    AND YOUR POINT IS?

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    GP…ya gotta admit that any black man who can rattle the US establishment, …is exceptional.

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  • A good opportunity to shout out Happy Ramadan to our Muslim brothers and sisters. Remembering that Ali was of that religion.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Georgie Porgie June 8, 2016 at 11:45 AM

    The point, GP, is well embedded between the lines.

    These other ‘non-believers’ who do not go along with you in the deification of your Jesus would more easily recognize Muhammad Ali as a great man than they would recognize Jesus as the only son of Yahweh or- as preached among some fundamentalist Christian sects like yours- God Incarnate and Supreme overlord of all mankind.

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  • Well Well,
    Nelson Mandela. Fidel Castro, Charismatic …LEADERS. SEE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR GP TO CALL MUHammed Ali by his right name? Pure racism. Even though he grew up with and among Black people, in a Black country, he can’t get it out of his system. Bet he has a crucifix with a white jesus; even though Yeshua was not white .
    I never ever put forward that I am a great writer. I just happen to be a writer, among other things. I don’t have to hold public meetings to get the message across. If everyone mentored one or two it would be of great help. I do my part without advertisement or fanfare. You asked what I do to help guide the youth. , I told you.
    As I told you I am like the Samaritan.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    I did not ask you anything about guiding any youth Alvin, read my posts again, you always make up crap when you cant answer difficult questions.

    Never even heard about Norton’s death, he was always a low key kinda guy.

    GP…probably had a bad experience with Ali…lol

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Oh dear, Ken Norton definitely is twinned with Mohammad Ali in life in the ring and now too in death.

    Amazing coincidences of this existence we enjoy and endure.

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  • Didn’t Ken Norton die in 2013?

    Annunaki………that’s right Muhammed Ali was more famous than the Christian phantom definitely touched more souls as well.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Well indeed he did. LOLL. The blogmaster pulled a fast one there on us (me)!!!

    Shows how attuned to the life and death of former boxers, I am.

    Boinng!. goes the snap back of my head from that zinger!

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  • Georgie Porgie

    MILLER ET AL
    I HAVE EVER ONLY HAD ONE HERO

    At the Name of Jesus, every knee shall bow,
    Every tongue confess Him King of glory now;
    ’Tis the Father’s pleasure we should call Him Lord,
    Who from the beginning was the mighty Word.

    Mighty and mysterious in the highest height,
    God from everlasting, very light of light:
    In the Father’s bosom with the spirit blest,
    Love, in love eternal, rest, in perfect rest.

    At His voice creation sprang at once to sight,
    All the angel faces, all the hosts of light,
    Thrones and dominations, stars upon their way,
    All the heavenly orders, in their great array.

    Humbled for a season, to receive a name
    From the lips of sinners unto whom He came,
    Faithfully He bore it, spotless to the last,
    Brought it back victorious when from death He passed.

    Bore it up triumphant with its human light,
    Through all ranks of creatures, to the central height,
    To the throne of Godhead, to the Father’s breast;
    Filled it with the glory of that perfect rest.

    Name Him, brothers, name Him, with love strong as death
    But with awe and wonder, and with bated breath!
    He is God the Savior, He is Christ the Lord,
    Ever to be worshipped, trusted and adored.

    In your hearts enthrone Him; there let Him subdue
    All that is not holy, all that is not true;
    Crown Him as your Captain in temptation’s hour;
    Let His will enfold you in its light and power.

    Brothers, this Lord Jesus shall return again,
    With His Father’s glory, with His angel train;
    For all wreaths of empire meet upon His brow,
    And our hearts confess Him King of glory now.

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  • Which came first the egg or the chicken?

    Iu or Heru/Horus the manifesting Son of God(Ancient Egyptian/Kmetian)
    Jesus the manifesting Sun of God (Christian)
    The ever-coming Messu or Child (Kmetian)
    The Hebrew messianic Child (Christian)
    Osiris whom Horus loved (Kmetian)
    Lazarus whom Jesus loved (christian)
    Horus the Gracious Child (Kmetian)
    Jesus the child full of Grace (Christian)
    Horus the Word made Flesh (Kmetian)
    Jesus the Word made Flesh (Christian)
    Horus the Krst (Kmetian)
    Jesus the Christ (Christian

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  • Which Ken Norton is this? The Ken Norton that fought Ali died in 2013, he had a son also named Ken Norton Jr. who I remember played in the NFL for the Dallas Cowboys but he is very much alive and involved in football as a Coach.

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  • Sheer clas
    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/4cac79c0a862436cbbd84844a3a73602/muhammad-ali-welcomed-all-pennsylvania-training-camp

    “Every old-timer around here seems to have an Ali tale.

    James Ferenchick, 71, Orwigsburg, recalls stopping at the camp early one morning before work and running into a worker hooking a horse to a carriage. Ferenchick told the worker he was there to see Ali. The worker fetched Ali from his cabin, and Ali gave him an autograph.

    “He says to me, ‘Are you in a big hurry?’ I said, ‘I have to go to work, but no, I can be late.’ He says, ‘Jump in the carriage.'”

    And that’s how Ferenchick found himself on a 45-minute buggy ride with the champ, up and down Sculps Hill.

    “I’m sitting there with goosebumps,” Ferenchick said. “It knocked me over.”

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  • *CLASS

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  • “There is no greater man that has done more for this city than Muhammad Ali,” the church’s assistant pastor, Charles Elliott III, said Sunday morning, drawing a round of “amens” and prolonged applause from the congregation.

    Coming from the Asst Church Pastor… wow, not even Jesus?

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  • A good article from The Guardian.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jun/05/shunned-by-white-america-how-muhammad-ali-found-his-voice-on-campus-tour

    Ali and Frazier may now be history but at least on BU we have Miller and GP!

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  • Georgie Porgie June 8, 2016 at 9:32 PM #

    Indeed, as we all learn at some point or another ‘hero’ is an over used word.

    Our one and only Icon is The Almighty.

    Though my perspective and yours obviously differs somewhat on the matter, but I sense that the result is the same.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Any black man that can rattle the US establishment is worth his weight in gold.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Black leaders would do well to emulate the humbleness of tru grestness.

    “Asked once about his preferred legacy, Ali said: “I would like to be remembered as a man who won the heavyweight title three times, who was humorous and who treated everyone right.

    “As a man who never looked down on those who looked up to him … who stood up for his beliefs … who tried to unite all humankind through faith and love.

    “And if all that’s too much, then I guess I’d settle for being remembered only as a great boxer who became a leader and a champion of his people. And I wouldn’t even mind if folks forgot how pretty I was.”

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  • Words of Wisdom from a GREAT MAN who has now become Immortal.

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  • Georgie Porgie

    CASSIUS CLAY DEAD CAUSE HE NOT IMMORTAL

    WE STILL TALK BOUT HITLER AND CHURCHILL…….BUT THEY DEAD,,,,,,,JUST LIKE CASSIUS CLAY
    STOP THE BLASPHEMY

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  • Well Well,
    You never ask difficult questions. You ask stupid questions, and make silly, biased, and bigoted statements.

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  • And the Immortal Muhammad Ali will live on thru HIS RIGHTEOUS DEEDS. He unlike the Christians understand that its through your deeds that ye will be judge and not because you beLIEve in some ‘phantasmic’ entity called Jesus.

    What a Great Man!

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  • Muhammad Ali’s mortal body and flesh died. His SPIRIT didn’t die neither did his SOUL die. They live on for ‘We’ shall put on Immortality and according to the works that Ali has done he has surely put on Immortality. He does not have to sit around and wait for some Rapture only the vile at heart has to be raptured.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Yeah..Alvin and none of that changes the fact that you are an emptyheaded yardfowl who lacks credibility and a pimp for Clare Cowan…Cahill and DLP who tried to rob bajans and destroy the air quality on the island with your destructiveness…which can all be proven.

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  • The memorial service for the late and greatest Muhammad Ali. He was a great boxer and he used his fame to make the world a better place. This unfolded at time when Blacks were regarded as chattel.

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  • Nothing has really changed

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  • And in one corner we have the light weight contender,Bim, punching above its weight. In the other corner is the Freundel Stuart administration,who have succeeded in knocking Bim,into a stupor, to the floor.

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  • Tributes flowing from Whites and Blacks alike.

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    1. westindies@westindies 16m16 minutes ago Saint Kitts and Nevis

      TRIBUTE TO ALI: Windies put boxing gloves on the stumps during today’s training session to remember Muhammad Ali

      Jason Holder, Ballr and Muhammad Ali

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  • Muhammed Ali was giving a heroes sends off befitting of royalty . A black Messiah was today put to his final resting place thousands of people lined the streets in his home town to say good bye to man who had a reason for living May he rest in Peace

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  • In Memory of the Greatest

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  • G.P. I am disappointed in you. There is a flaw in your character for even though you have reached a higher plane, through education and experience, you still have such built in biases and prejudice; yes prejudice, that even not you find it diffuclul, or refuse to , call Mohammed Ali by his right name. You are aware, or should be, of his history, his character, and his courage, and yet you refuse to give him the respect due. Say it loud and clear:MOHAMMED ALI It would be good for your psyche.
    Well Weii,
    I WATCHED THE service. I have known and admired Ali since 1963, through the enthusiasm of a young white girl in Binghamton who was enamoured with this handsome young black man called Cassius Clay, who had the courage to throw his Olympic Gold medal in the river his hometown, because he could not eat at the lunch counter of his choice. That takes courage; a courage demonstrated by a young lad.I have admired him since then till now. I watched his funeral service, and shed a tear, for theses types of men come once in a lifetime. I shall not live long enough to see another one, and I give thanks that I witnessed it. He was far above the pettiness, spite and bitterness displayed by some on this blog. Displayed by persons wh will never understand the greatness that was Ali. They are too shallow. Let not your heart be troubled by my “yardfowlism”, for I am not bothered by any of the epithets you throw my way. I am above them. I know who I am, and I am comfortable with who I am. And I will always be the person I am.

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  • By the way GP. You have never seen “your” Jesus. You worship and revere, and you await the coming of the “rapture” so that you can be “with him; not again, because you have never met him, except in your mind, in paradise. (Whatever that means).You have seem Muhammed so you should understand the ability to achieve perfection.But you cannot pay him the respect he is due.

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  • I propose that AC change his name to BC (Broken Clock)
    He was right twice in one day.
    Seriously. Good job, AC.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Alvin Cummins June 12, 2016 at 12:11 PM

    There is absolutely no difference between the likes of GP and those Islamic fundamentalists who under the guise of Jihad would kill thousands and themselves just to get to heaven to bed 70 virgins (virgins that both Mohammed and Jesus have already deflowered).

    The only difference that can be gleaned is the name of the ‘stars’ playing the part of the special or last and ‘only’ messenger of some desert god. It just takes one back to the story of Abraham and the feud between his sons Ishmael and Isaac except in reverse birth order to fit in with the timeframe of the two major faiths of myths, lies, chicanery, and bovine excrement aka bullshit.

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  • Please forgive me for being silent. I was busy mourning. MUHAMMAD ALI (caps intended) meant much to me. Tony Cozier meant much to me. They were mortals with flaws I am sure but I have NO IDEA what they were. I will always mourn them BOTH! I have no problem with white people in general, just the racist ones. I have no problem with Moslems in general, just the extremist ones. I have no problem with men, just the sexist ones. I have no problem with people in general, just the bigoted ones. I have no problem with atheists or non-Christians, just those who call me a fool for believing what they have no way of disproving. (Just as I have no way of proving.) I choose not to respond in kind. But I must say I have a problem with someone refusing to call a man by the name he chose for himself! Is a man not allowed to name himself? Why the disrespect? What exactly has this man done to deserve it?

    MUHAMMAD ALI, thank you for being sooooooo pretty!

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  • Alvin Cummins June 12, 2016 at 12:11 PM #
    By the way GP. You have never seen “your” Jesus. You worship and revere, and you await the coming of the “rapture” so that you can be “with him; not again, because you have never met him, except in your mind, in paradise.

    i peter 1:8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

    The Anglicans have a hymn of which the first verse refers to this verse It is sung to a lovely tune with a sweet sweet tenor

    O Savior, precious Savior,
    Whom yet unseen we love!
    O Name of might and favor,
    All other names above!
    We worship Thee, we bless Thee,
    To Thee, O Christ, we sing;
    We praise Thee, and confess Thee
    Our holy Lord and King

    Re You have seem Muhammed so you should understand the ability to achieve perfection.But you cannot pay him the respect he is

    I AM SORRY SIR I ONLY HAVE ONE HERO……..THE LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO DIED FOR MY SINS

    CASSIUS CLAY WAS A MAN WHO BOXED

    and no I AM AM NOT AWARE NOR DO I CARE ABOUT his history, his character, and his courage,

    SURELY I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHOM I WANT TO GIVE RESPECT TO

    Re Say it loud and clear:MOHAMMED ALI It would be good for your psyche.
    COWS WALLOP HE IS NOT JESUS MY SAVIOUR

    re . I watched his funeral service, and shed a tear, I WATCHED THE LONE RANGER INSTEAD AND ROY ROGeRS

    . I too know who I am, and I am comfortable with who I am. And I will always be the person I am. AND I WONT BE BULLIED BY ANY ONE ON BU

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  • Some went overboard in attempting to elevate a mere mortal above human status and others went overboard in attempting to degrade him below the inherent status due to every human no matter how unremarkable. Nobody wants to bully you. You are just sooooo mean- spirited it hurts to see it! Is it necessary to pull down everybody so that Jesus can stand tall. He really doesn’t need any help from us in that area. He is ascended and seated at the right hand of the Almighty God and attempting to pull us up with Him. Will you help Him? That is the assignment He gave! You may have the last hateful word.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Miller, …”There is absolutely no difference between the likes of GP and those Islamic fundamentalists who under the guise of Jihad would kill thousands…”

    That is a serious bit of rhetoric. You are suggesting that this scholarly gentleman is just like a Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. A learned Imam or religious scholar who uses his faith based script as a cudgel to beat us who do not share his views.

    Moreover, though you are further suggesting that we BUers are a party to his spiel of hate as we embrace his religious mantra in the name of free speech and his invocation that ‘he will not be bullied’ although he repeatedly shouts at us, disrespects us all and yet hails himself as a true acolyte of a man with a message of peace.

    Hmmmm. I never thought of him that way before. You sir may be right.

    Alas, he is a Bajan scholar – one of our best and brightest- and has saved lives with his gifted doctor hands. We cannot dismiss that, now can we. How can he be terrorist-like with a cold heart that would take heads. Impossible. We over dramatize.

    He is just a regular guy who likes to get his way and has the brains to demand it. Nothing terroristic or ISIS like about him in the least…who cares if a few ‘bullers’ get killed and how can this Christian soldier pay homage to a apostate who choose to call himself Mohammad Ali.

    Surely we over dramatize. This man is a doyen of peace, love and togetherness. All hail the power of free speech.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ de pedantic Dribbler June 13, 2016 at 6:40 AM
    “Alas, he is a Bajan scholar – one of our best and brightest- and has saved lives with his gifted doctor hands. We cannot dismiss that, now can we. How can he be terrorist-like with a cold heart that would take heads. Impossible. We over dramatize.”

    There are also many so-called intelligent men- some of them medical doctors of greater scholarship and career achievement than GP- and other knights of humanitarianism who are indoctrinated members or supporters of ISIS.

    You certainly underestimate the power of religion on the human psyche. When religion comes knocking on the minds of the weak and vulnerable, rationality and commonsense disappear.

    “He is just a regular guy who likes to get his way and has the brains to demand it. Nothing terroristic or ISIS like about him in the least…who cares if a few ‘bullers’ get killed and how can this Christian soldier pay homage to a apostate who choose to call himself Mohammad Ali.”

    Oh yeah, a regular guy alright! Which regular guy in his “right” mind would want to believe in or promote a god that instructs human beings to commit mass murder and the raping of virgin girls?

    “They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man……..Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.”~ Numbers 31:7,17-18.

    “Kill everything that“breathes” from humans and animals!” ~Deuteronomy 20:16

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  • Even though the DEVILS wrecked your muscular system and called it Parkinson’s, believing that they could Park you in a corner until you withered away and died, YOU defied them.

    For this GREAT man refused to be held down. He travelled the world spreading his Goodwill message of Peace, Love and LIGHT. Some were just contented to touch the hem of his Garment while others needed to touch the flesh of this great soul. As a Great Soul who cultivated and fashioned his heart in the Light, it was quite possible for your other organs to shut down while your HEART continued to beat on, for only a Clean and Pure Heart lives on…………a mystery to the ignorant, low frequency, five-senses one-dimensional beings whose western trained minds are light-years behind SPIRITUAL medicine.

    A Great Soul who loved those things which were below him and was beloved by the beings above him. Foggy air never disturbed the direction of his attention and the dense earth was no obstacle to his work, no depth of water however great, impaired his view. He was all things and was the same everywhere. His intelligence was endowed with consciousness for it was that consciousness that raised and sustained his intelligence. You Great Soul existed in Ousiodes. Having been formed of Divinity and Matter, you descended to the earthly realm, completed your mission, and you’ve shed that earthly body and returned to Divinity ….So travel on Great Elder, for the Light Ones, the Neteru await you.

    Like that Butterfly you are now free so float on with the beautiful lyrics of Earth Wind and Fire.

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  • O soul, are you weary and troubled?
    No light in the darkness you see?
    There’s light for a look at the Savior,
    And life more abundant and free.
    Turn your eyes upon Jesus,
    Look full in His wonderful face,
    And the things of earth will grow strangely dim,
    In the light of His glory and grace.
    2
    Through death into life everlasting
    He passed, and we follow Him there;
    O’er us sin no more hath dominion
    For more than conqu’rors we are!
    3
    His Word shall not fail you, He promised;
    Believe Him and all will be well;
    Then go to a world that is dying,
    His perfect salvation to tell!

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  • “The world is waking from its phantom dreams,
    To make out that which is, from that which seems.”

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  • AND SO THE MOCK GOD DIES BUT CAN RISE AGAIN UNTIL THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT
    LET HIM SAY HE IS THE GREATEST THEN LOL

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  • Muhammad Ali’s Matter stays in the material grave but his DIVINITY returns to that from whence it came. SPIRIT TO SPIRIT MATTER TO MATTER. He does not have to wait for some ‘racist’ great “White” throne for he did not descend from a great ‘white’ throne for there is NO Great white throne.

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  • The important point is that so long as we are alive our well being is stoked by those who would inspire us to be the best that we can be while in the temporal arena.

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  • i agree David THAT IS WHY THE LORD JESUS CHRIST INSPIRES ME SO

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  • And that’s why Muhammad Ali inspires me and countless others. He definitely had and has more impact than JC who is not the LORD.

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  • poor likkle hopi , he think he bright
    poor likkle hopi , he talking shite

    wuh loss murdah

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  • Georgie Porgie………….The virtual fly has landed! Finally you have nothing left to say but spew bilge. Typical of your kind. You are one pathetic entity. You truly are a christian. You call yourself a doctor but I find that hard to believe for a ‘man’ who spends most of his time in BU rum shop looking for attention and validation and look….. the only manner in which you can attain that attention is NEGATIVE. There’s absolutely no way that you could be in the business of healing because your frequency is just too damn low, nasty in nasty out. Prescribing toxic pharmaceuticals is more like your specialty.

    You are pitiful just like the Pharisee “Thank God I’m not like other men” “O thank god I’m a ‘doctor’ because that makes me ‘smarter’ than other men’ “o thank god I’m good and they are bad…o thank god thank gawd’ Nigga your aura is putrid.

    SO ‘PHYSICIAN’ HEAL THYSELF for you are nothing more than a Spiritual Leper.

    You are NOT Muhammad Ali and you will never be like Muhammad Ali so go elsewhere and seek attention.

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  • Watch the full Billy Crystal’s eulogy for Muhammad Ali

    http://boingboing.net/2016/06/12/billy-crystals-eulogy-for-mu.html

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  • Georgie Porgie June 13, 2016 at 5:26 PM #
    poor likkle hopi , he think he bright
    poor likkle hopi , he talking shite

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  • Its open season on Muslims today so she just got on board. Jesus never owned slaves because Jesus never existed. Ali left Christianity and took up Islam and she left Islam and took up christianity to tell black people to free themselves. Oh the folly! Pot calling the kettle black! Did Muhammed Ali preach hate? She obviously doesn’t know the history of Christianity. How does she know that Ali’s heart was full of hate? O yea she’s a christian so she would know. Woman go free ya blasted mind please because you are obviously domiciled in a vitreous place.

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  • poor likkle hopi , he think he bright
    poor likkle hopi , he talking NUFF shite

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  • Good Morning Dr. Misery…this one is for you…

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  • poor likkle hopi , he think he bright
    poor likkle hopi , he STILL talking NUFF shite

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  • Wait, that is a prayer?!!! Aaaaaaamen.

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