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Submitted by Heather Cole
Caribbean Court of Justice
Caribbean Court of Justice

In the game of cricket, there is no victory without a challenge. In athletics no race is won without a challenge and in the court of law, no precedent can ever be set without a challenge.

Two recent occurrences prompted me to write this article. The first was a call from a lawyer in Barbados about two weeks ago informing me that a sixteen years old case was finally set to be heard. It was one of two cases and there is no light yet at the end of the tunnel for the second case. The second occurrence was the revelation of the court documents relating to the death of Marcelle Smith in an article on the Barbados Underground. The documents in my opinion pointed to a motive for her murder and the persons responsible.

At present the system for the delivery of justice in Barbados leaves a lot to be desired and that is putting it mildly. No one should have to wait 16 years for a case to be heard. There has been enough time for those responsible for the administration of the system to over haul it and come up with a creative and transparent process for cases to be heard. It leads one to question the management of the system from which justice for the entire population is to be delivered. Are there checks and balances to ensure that all cases are heard in a timely manner? Are there cases lying around in or on some desks catching dusk? Is there a prevailing corruption in the system that warrants the need for a regulator whose duty it is to ensure that all cases are heard in a timely manner? One can also question the effectiveness of the position of the Ombudsman. By now the Attorney General should have created an instrument to define the period within which a case must be heard. I am positive that this would help reduce the backlog in the system. Are there enough Judges, magistrates and cases managers and do they work 8 hours per day? The time has come for a person to be able to track the movement of their case on line that way they will be in a better position to seek a resolution to any bottlenecks that that are inherently in the system. They must be penalties, fines and disbarment to practice for anyone circumventing the process of justice regardless to who they are.

With regards to the emails sent by Mrs. Smith to her Attorney, I was shocked to read the contents and I queried why Vernon Smith and Hal Gollop had entered the deceased property and interrogating a man with dementia. It was a house not a court or a law office or a police station. They had no right being there to conduct legal matters uninvited and that it was most unconventional to bring the police to add credibility to their deed. Protocol should have dictated these learned lawyers to schedule a meeting with her attorney present since she had responsibility for her husband. This case in itself raises many issues highlighted above and it makes one wonder if it will ever be heard since two high profile member of the legal community are involved. However, one also wonders how the revelation of their meeting with Mrs. Smith will impact their credibility with the public of Barbados and if this case is not heard will it justify that some people are above the law or that there is in fact no law.

The above are just two examples but I am sure that there are many more cases out there. Every right thinking Barbadian and those who the judicial system has failed must come together to challenge the system. We are in an era to have a Class Action Suit against the Attorney General, the Chief Justice and the Ombudsman with regards to the administration of justice. Is there any attorney out there who is up to this task?

Paradoxically, two of the reasons set forth to end the jurisdiction of the British Privy Council over the former colonies of the British West Indies can now be put forth regarding the legal system in Barbados. There are the unpopularity of the decisions and the perception that the system has too much power. Can it be that the deeply entrenched partiality now makes the legal system inadequate? It sets forth an argument for the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) to expand its scope to become a local court of the jurisdiction.

One hopes that we the citizens of Barbados can petition to amend its constitution to allow local cases of Barbados or the region to be heard and be not only limited to CARICOM matters or act as an Appellate Court. The petition to the CCJ can also request that it includes the practice of law in its disadvantaged sector and amend that sector include lawyers. Or, by some other measure allow all lawyers to practice across its jurisdiction in any member state. This is intended to create one Bar Association within the jurisdiction that will allow a lawyer in Jamaica or Trinidad to accept a case in Barbados or vice versa without fear of victimization. Therefore one should seek to find out if this problem of Barbados is being experienced in Jamaica, Belize and Trinidad and Tobago.

Another outlook is that since the present judicial system is not serving the best interest of the masses, one wonders if the people of Barbados can by way of referendum be given an option to have their cases heard locally or by the CCJ by-passing the present court system.

The question that we must all ask ourselves is if Barbadians have to die awaiting justice or should they be assured of justice in Barbados or allowed to have their cases heard by the CCJ. In the final analysis, our problem can be resolved by competition and the establishment of a regional local court. To this end it is my intent to find out what is happening in the other islands for which the CCJ has jurisdiction. However, with or without the other territories, seek dialogue with the CCJ and petition them and the Government of Barbados from the Barbados Lobby to extend the scope and services of the CCJ to hear local cases of the people of Barbados. I hope that all who have been disadvantaged by the court system will join in this effort. Your comments and or assistance are welcomed.


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242 responses to “Justice Must Be Served”


  1. Do you guys mind not hijacking Heather’s submission? There is a blog below where US politics can be discussed.


  2. http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/75639/-worth-little-change-qeh

    The good in America outweighs the bad. The bad in Barbados outweighs the good. The United States is not healthy as should be but damn Barbados is extremely ill and has been for quite some time. Must I remind you, Barbados Underground audience David Thompson before his demise sought treatment in the United States, Columbia University Hospital (New York) NOT Queen Elizabeth Hospital (Barbados) and damn I don’t blame him. You may or may not know Columbia University is ivy league. Unlike University of West Indies (Barbados), Columbia is a college of prestige. Barbados Singer Rihanna donated 1.7 million to the Barbados Queen Elizabeth hospital but apparently not enough – considering rationing to save cost – https://barbadosunderground.wordpress.com/2015/03/02/qeh-head-suggests-rationing-to-save-cost/ – would not live there, Barbados, just would not live there.


  3. On the other Blog dealing with this matter i had made a suggestion that the agency responsible for it, the Telecommunications Unit under the ever vigilant FTC, might require that cellular phone (and landline) companies be required to keep monthly paid or prepay phone data for a prescribed period of time if a matter of an legal or criminal investigation so required.

    Just to give a little insight into this i cite my own matter against LIME or Bartel or whatever name they wish to call themselves as some suggest that they slow-ly slime them where across the island.

    My matter was one where for 14 years, I purport that LIME over-billed me close to $100,000. I tend to keep records, email, whatsapp texts, voice recordings, things that people send me, I keep.

    Good thing that I did because I had to present said records to the court as evidence to show my matter since the Defendants did not seem to be able to find theirs.

    That story does not end too good for, as in my matter with CAROM, even in the face of a court order by Justice Chandler,to the contrary, LIME turned off my phones and has subsequently refused to obey any of the instructions of the Court issued over a year ago.

    That action alone would seem to “answer” Mr. Jeff Cumberbatch’s (rhetorical?) observation about there being “some entities in Barbados that are above the law”

    It would appear as if, like some talisman, I have the enchanted power to attract many of these travesties of justice.

    But, I do not mean to hijack the topic.

    What i am seeking to point out is that, in the event that it was required to have a forensic examination of the telephone records, as this matter seems to be proposing, it should be that Bartel/SLIME/FLOW should be required to keep all their records archived in such a manner, through such software systems, which could not be overturned in a court of law, unlike the sheepish spreadsheets that they provided me with in 2014.

    Armed with such inviolable records it would only require that the RBPF use its I2 Software to produce this type of visualisation of the records in their possession AT THE FLICK OF A SWITCH

    http://imgur.com/iOx06z9

    All of the purported relationships would be visible for all to see/

    I am wondering if Amused might be able to use his good graces with the goodly gentlemen and have them give permission to the Bartel People so that their records could be examined immediately at the opening of business on Monday morning.

    I mean was it not stated on this or the other blog that both parties insisted that they were like open books and could be investigated at any time?

    Amused, what better way to show the public that, without any purported collusion at LIME or FLOW, oops they are the same thing aren’t they? that the records could be submitted to the IT Unit of our RBPF and subjected to I2?

    Just a suggestion address the current situation, beyond all of this salacious speculation about lawyers “seeking to benefit from $40,000 per year rentals of properties in Claremont and income from other properties” etc…

  4. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Hello Heather

    There are some typos in my defending your points submission in my first post, but I think you understand what it is saying. So let me continue.

    There is so much evidence that provides enough reason for aspects of the Barbados constitution to be amended, and reasons galore for a few things to be included. These inclusions will be necessary to prevent politicians from manipulating the law in order for them to achieve their purposes.

    Anyone who thinks that there is nothing wrong with the constitution of Barbados would have to be foolish. As long as the constitution can be tampered with by politicians to serve what they believe to be important to them and not the entire population, then it should be subjected to changes, insertions or clauses to prevent such persons from manipulating it for their good pleasure.

    We have already two instances where the constitution was tampered with in order for both political parties to insert their man in the chair of CJ. And, we also have evidence, that where ever their man has been inserted the outcome has been either very little change or zero change. There is also the fundamental belief held by me and others that a political party selecting a party faithful cannot serve as Chief Justice or any other important position that has the influence to effect change, in the best interest of its citizenry, because close affiliations of that kind are bound to create conflict of interest issues. These conflicts have been made obvious by the type of politics practiced by both parties and to that end, both parties have provided enough evidence for certain powers to be removed from them because in many instances their interests are more self-serving than the interests of those to whom they are selected to serve.

    There must be constitutional reforms and included regulations that allow for decision-making protocols that cannot be affected by partisan views, loyalties or outside influences of any kind. And, that a system that closely monitors those air marked for certain seats of power, to be subjected to a set of stringent rules that are instantly brought into effect by persons responsible enough and honest enough to do so. that sets the wheels for incarceration immediately in moving mode.

    If therefore, they are clear cut cases where political loyalists are air marked for important seats that have the greatest impact for change in our society then these persons cannot be selected by any political party or persons who are known to pledge their allegiance to either of the two evils, no matter which one is lesser.

    Every effort to remove these convoluted arrangements and decisions that serve no real useful purpose must be pursued.

    There is just too much evidence that points to the judiciary not being able to function efficiently and with complete transparency even though the two political party faithfuls were placed in the CJ chair. So it makes a whole lot of sense to me that if politics is the interfering factor that is stopping change in those positions for which change can be made, then it is time to remove the power from the obviously despicable element and let the voice of the people be the voice for change. This change must be a concerted effort and a shout in all forms of protest since the outcome of our development is being affected by decisions that are cloak in too much self-serving deviance.

    I am with you on all your points, Heather, they are not impossible until the reasons behind the complexities are unravel to show if the true state of what makes them complex is deliberate and specific to serving interests for the few while disadvantaging all others. So far, it is clear to me that they are only intended to protect the elite group and so the complexity is all one-sided and needs now to be tampered with from a protest from the people.


  5. The Barbados Supreme Judicature Act was amended.

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  6. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    SSS….most of the players do NOT want the PRACTICE of using the judicial system for self-serving purposes removed, in other words, the practice cannot be amended re insurance companies inviting the officers of the court to sit on their board of directors, so they do not lose any cases and have easy access to legal consultants, these officers know it’s a conflict of interest and a direct disenfranchisement of people who have cases againt the insurance company, but what do they care, they are getting paid……that cannot be amended by parliament, the court officers, in that scenario, , should be fired, but they will sue, just like the doctor at the hospital who was sent on leave for rape, he successfully sued with the argument that other doctors at the hospital were charged for rape and were never fired and still work at the hospital…..he also still works at the hospial….so there.

    Something is fundamentally wrong with the whole legal setup, that is what it has become to the people….a big ugly setup.

    And don’t let’s get started on the nepotism, cronyism and bribetaking for those who avoid being charged, arrested and imprisoned altogether. .


  7. @SSS,
    The constitution must be re written. It is neither of the people or for the people. It does not give the people the mandate to bring about change. It is as though the framers decided that the people should never have a voice.


  8. @Heather

    Your best be is to lobby Mia and the BLP. Get it inserted in their manifesto if doing such will mean anything.

  9. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    Come on, be more specific, Ms Cole. What would you require in the Constitution that is not there? One does not just…amend a Constitution!


  10. @ Jeff

    State model
    Bushie would convert Barbados into a “Co-operative Democratic Republic”
    The Motto would change from “Pride and Industry” to ‘God and Country before Me”
    The Government would be elected as per BU’s 10-Point plan

    Business model
    Clear preference and support will be given to OPEN COOPERATIVE type businesses where the owners are largely the customers, but closed coops would also be encouraged where closed groups come together to operate cooperative entities.

    Meritocracy
    State-of-the-art performance review systems would be instituted in ALL government agencies and all their operations – from recruitment, promotion, pay, bonus and even retaining one’s job will be contingent almost exclusively on individual and team performance.
    The performance system will apply to the Courts; Schools; military; all systems funded by government.

    Governance
    There will be constituted a body called the NATIONAL SUPERVISORY COMMITTEE. It will comprise twenty one persons appointed from across the country.
    12 of those positions will automatically go to specified office holders such as “Three religious leaders; The heads of the chamber of commerce, the BAR, BARP, BAPE, BYS, Scouts, Guides, Manufacturers…..etc
    The remaining 9 will be appoint based on extensive knowledge and qualification in Cooperative principles.

    This body will have governance oversight of all government operations and may institute internal and external audits as it feels fit, but MUST execute automatic audits of all agencies at least once every three years.

    ….and that is just a start.

  11. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    WWC and Heather

    You see, there lies the problem with the brainiacs. The constitution cannot be this, there is nothing wrong with the constitution, it’s the people, this and that act was amended, one does not just amend a constitution just like that.

    Jesus H Christ my beloved saviour, if the constitution is this and that how is it that some unconstitutional act that manipulates it or goes around it, with some shitety clause, are allowed without question to serve singular interests? I am saying that either add, take away, or insert necessary clauses that make it constitutionally strong for unconstitutional persons to insert their brand of change that is more specific and not broad base.

    Jesus H Christ my blessed redeemer, the persons who are responsible for enforcing the law do so base on who you are. We have enough proof and evidence to hold to the Barbadian notion as right that they are, indeed, the existence of two laws in Barbados. The writers of the law ensured that protectionist script was included to make it possible to press any issues against them through the formation of the secrecy act and the media chain that allows the press to go that further and no further. Do not tell shite about what nonsense the press would do. They are not directly responsible for the knee deep cesspool Barbados is currently in. Let them have the teeth to dig into the nastiness of these people so the fear of the lord at what consequences their actions could result in can lead them towards doing what is right.

    You want to tell me that with the developments that have sprung forth from two parties competing for the coveted title of most controversies, accusations and despicable things, that an act of constitutional reform is not merited?

    Jesus H Christ my power and strength, what the shite you brainiacs telling me. We had a case where a former prime minister was able to argue for more money for himself and his ministers (because he thought the salary of a PS, his or his ministers, were too close) just before a pay cut was orchestrated across the board.

    We had a few persons that decided that the same length of time it takes for a civil servant to get his pension should not be the same for ministerial servants since the two roles are different and thus they should be entitled to theirs just after putting in 8 or 10 years (which ever is correct).

    There is no way in the world that that type of power to effect such draconian changes to suit the desires and whims of some should be allowed to remain in the hands of two parties that have proven themselves to be lacking in scruples and appropriate financial practices for many years.

    All major decisions need to be subjected to oversight by persons with the wherewithal to execute the type of oversight needed. Thus, it makes a whole lot of sense, to me, to give the Auditor Generals department the power to investigate, interrogate and press for the charge and lock up and, an Oversight Committee for the Evaluation of Political, Financial and Ministerial Conduct as a constitutional change for a select group of people from the bajan cores to oversee and report on practices under a new constitution that give them the power to effect serious changes while allowing the people to have a say in their decisions via a vote.

    The island’s political system have nicely established the doctrine of no transparency, accountability and integrity rules and you people here telling me shite that a constitution cannot be changed like that. Wuh it cast in Flintstone or Kryptonian material? Wuh the only thing that does not change is time, therefore, all others are subject to change, including the darn constitution of Barbados that needs amendment, changes, and strong reinforcement.

  12. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    So go ahead and change it, SSS! Why don’t you? Or since you can’t, why not vote only for the representative(s) who is/are willing too change it along your lines? Or is talk just cheap?

  13. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Jeff Cumberbatch

    Are you adding to the problem or simply providing the usual sympathy tones to say why we cannot do it? Wuh you know good enough that the existence of everything bad in Barbados is because no one does anything to change it. Why then talk shite bout…”so go ahead and change it SSS, why don’t you?…’ You would got to be an educated kubba, no insult intended. We, you, me and everyone in Barbados who want our island to be running on proper cylinders that the people can see working, must seek to push for constitutional reforms, amendments and whatever else is needed to get these despicable people from doing what has been profiting them for years. Do you not understand that with the people so docile, afraid, and naive, the only protest that would work right now is digital protest in the form of flyers and posters. Jesus H Christ, there is more than one way to skin a cat. BU is one way, your column is another but then comes the pictures and words for people to interpret and see for themselves. You like you want this shite to continue while you write sweetly and get praise for the ability to use the English Language and the other few accolades associated with your status.


  14. @ Jeff,
    This is not our first discussion about changing the constitution. Put your students to a meaningful exercise and see what they can come up with. It was written in favour of the decision makers not the people.

  15. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Heather how would that be a ‘meaningful’ exercise for the students? Would they be in concert with the changes that you are desirous of seeing? Regardless, drafting changes is the simple part!

    If we have so much hand-wringing re gaining a simple majority re the representative political process how would it be so facile to bring about constitutional change which has a much higher hurdle re voting majority.

    Jeff’s comment re voting for those who are ‘are willing too change it’ indicates the absolute difficulty re the process.

    So it’s not his students you need in order to get at your constitutional problem but rather of course you need to attract interest and generate the widespread support of Bajans to the desired changes as the integral first step.

    Unfortunately at this point that is the problem that any proponent of constitutional change must address… of course the fantastic thing of modern life is that the framers never foresaw the ability of social media to propagate information quickly and extensively.

    So a path to gaining the required majority support is less onerous that they would have planned…but chatter here is but a baby-step nonetheless

  16. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Dribbler

    …. you need to attract interest and generate the widespread support of Bajans to the desired changes as the integral first step….

    Precisely Dribbler. But Mr. Cumberbatch presents a resident hurdle in that he believes that the probability of the constitution changing is 288,000 to 2. The people constitutes the battering ram to effect constitutional change. No other force will be able to persuade more effectively than the say of the people by the force of the people. The evidence that leaders will not demit from their positions towards changing anything must, therefore, be given a little the incentive If he thinks I am just all talk, I wonder what the heck he thinks his column contributions are. Geeeeez


  17. @David Weekes April 9, 2016 at 10:21 PM “No one can say anything because it is treason…”

    Has Barbados actually tried, convicted, imprisoned or executed anyone for treason in the last 100 years?

    Just a simple question from me

    Simple Simon

  18. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    The students doing research and writing dissertations at universities today are the leaders of tomorrow. ..we have to remember that they are the future, the older dying people, including present leaders are the past…just trying to make it clear.

    Those shithound parliamentarians change and amend what they want, when they want as it suits them….most often without the knowledge of the taxpayers, they just have no intentions of amending or changing some 400 year old law, rule or procedure at the REQUEST OR DEMAND of the people.

    The constitutional laws were ratified with the explicit intent that black people on the islands would remain slaves for thousands of generations, there was no intent for the people to benefit from the laws….the jackasses in parliament like it just so….it serves their self-serving wants, just fine.

  19. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    Simple Simon

    A google search can explain that simple question that you asked.

    Context is what you simply are missing so i shall essay to explain this to you in simple terms.

    Let us say that you unfortunately go out with a man who is a serial rapist, accustomed lacing women’s drinks with incapacitating drug.

    Say the two of you go out and he resorts to that practice, with you, BUT, in addition to being a rapist, he is like Charlie Sheen, HIV positive, suppose as a direct outcome of that encounter, you contract AIDS which leads to your death, has that man not “executed” you?

    Say that the girl who was gang raped by those teenagers was your daughter, i find that people, while not caring less about other people’s children, empathise when it is happening to them, do you not think that, through that crime, they have “imprisoned” her in her skin, FOR LIFE?

    And given the stigma that is accorded victims of rape, here in Barbados, as if the victim is responsible for the rape, you know well how we will state “she was too wufless, and does walk round exposing sheself, and she deserve it”, do you not think that she has been “convicted” to a life of snide comments, behind her back, and to her face, here in this progressive island?

    Context ma’am.

    The point that I went to pains to point out is that, as long as you speak out against any action by the party in power, be it when they are in Trinidad at the Crowne Hotel and comment ultra vires, about the CARICOM matter, or when papers and NIS memos mysteriously find themselves in the public domain, and you have two members of Parliament commenting incredibly about treason, I hope that you understand what my submission means.

    “Simple” dissent (don’t mean to use part of your name so much) is now accorded the categorization of treason, any response, rather opinion contrary to that of the parties in power, is customarily called sedition worthy of “shooting some people and cracking a few skulls.”

    I hope that this explains my use of those terms earlier now, augmented by your google search, regarding the context of their use.

  20. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    I have no intention of muddying anyone’s waters, but my views are based on the fact that constitutional change is not simply effected overnight and, even then, not by mere call in contributions or blog posts. Think, if you may, of how many constitutional amendments have had since 1966 and point out to me any that were effected by popular desire. In fact tell me how many ordinary laws were made since then as a result of popular urging,

    It may be, however, that some are unaware of precisely how the Constitution is amended…in which case I should understand your youthful exuberance!


  21. Perhaps ‘youthful exuberance’ is more appropriately defined as thinking that something is sacrosanct because there has been no change in 50 years….


  22. @ Dribbler what you said is correct. However on order for Barbados to become a Republic the Constitution must change. Those who are saying that it is not easy to change seems to have forgotten that.

  23. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    There issue, with all due respect, is not whether the Constitution cam be be changed or not. Of course it can be. The question is how? Whether by the actions of the legislature or by wishful thinking and “robber talk”on a popular blog?

    Bush Tea. perhaps you in your “wisdom” can tell me how? Or at least waffle about (around) it?

  24. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    And, Ms Cole, you are asserting that it will be “easy” to change the Constitution for us to become a “republic”?

  25. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Heather, I must disagree. The fact is that anyone who contemplates a constitutional change recognizes that all roads go through Parliament…so it goes right back to the representatives and thus to that integral first step of exciting those who must elect them.

    Nothing wrong with youthful exuberance but the difficulty is essentially the will of the elected members or Parliament…you know that.

    Incidentally, exactly what are the changes you need to the constitution?


  26. @ Jeff
    So was Hal Gollop and a few others no secretly doing exactly that?
    How do you know Bushie is not a Hal … to get three others and write down some stuff ..and then hold a revolution?
    All needed is 21 seats in the HoA,…. something that Froon is currently gifting to Mia…

    The point is … it need not as hard as you seem to be making it out to be….


  27. What you and others are missing Bushie is that it suits the expediency of the political class to change the Constitution to accommodate a Republican system of government. Especially if the Opposition is on record as supporting it read the government co-opting them in the process. It is not being changed because the people want it per se. We have a chicken and egg situation, Some of us are advocating for greater citizen activism because the political class has been ignoring the people and the people need the political class to make changes to allow for greater participation.What will it take, blood?

    Houston we have a problem.

  28. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Jeff Cumberbatch

    This is your facts? To tell me what the obstacles are and how long the process will take. You think I do not know that is the reality? What about the reality that has brought us all here on BU to protest and utter our objections, obscenities, and defenses to what we all believe is right in our eyes.You think I do not know the intricacies involve in conceptualising a constitution far less constitutional amendment towards specific change. You think I do not know that the same people doing shite are the same people who are responsible for pushing those changes? So what would be your solution, Mr. I know the facts? Why don’t you spend the time in your nice little polish columns and write a few more articles about the Heartbeat of the Nation and its Bleeding Wounds, or the Complexities of the Constitution and its Relevancy to a Barbados of yesteryear in the Modernities of a changing Tomorrow, or, What we must Do in order to be Saved. If you are happy that the only time the people can exercise their constitutional right to effect change is around election time, I want you to know I am not. My point shall remain rather you think I am noise maker, a trouble maker, a young upstart or even an idiot. I will advocate civil protest in any form except via the use of violence. And I am telling you now that Barbadians will head down the road of protest sooner than you think because the tension is mounting and those who are controlling the reigns believe that they cannot be challenged.

  29. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    David

    There should and must not be any constitutional reforms unless is agreed, after perusal, by the people. This shite of excluding the people out of major decisions must be brought to an abrupt end pronto.


  30. @ David
    That business of politicians doing as they liked in the past was only possible with control of the press. The last victory of that era was the Trinidadian use of the Nation and VOB to capture local industry.
    It cannot happen again with the new social media…
    The people will be made aware. If the choose to allow shiite then that is their right…


  31. @Bush Tea

    Nothing wrong with your last comment.

  32. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    SSS…..the politicians over the last 5 decades got used to doing the bare minimum, misusing the constitution to cover their tracks of self-enrichment, do you really feel they have the WILL or maturity to CHANGE that….while braying to those yardfowls and people who are not aware about how they are the best political party to ever run the country, no one better, they both say this….the best economy, things have never been better……Barbados is the best, richest, most intelligent, educated in the Caribbean. All the while, not thinking for one moment that all the dumb shit they kept spewing and fooling those dumb enough to believe for 50 years, would one day catch up with them.

    Night has just caught day.

    We can always for the next 50 years use the example of how the prime minister Fruendel Stuart and speaker of the house Michael Carrington, used the useless, to the people, procedures in the parliament to cover Carrington’s criminal actions against a man in a wheelchair, with Owen Arthur jumping in saying it’s not illegal. That is what they are ALL protecting…..the disenfranchisement of the people.

  33. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @SSS April 12, at 2:01 AM…you said: “… any constitutional reforms unless is agreed, after perusal, by the people. This shite of excluding the people out of major decisions must be brought to an abrupt end pronto.”

    Your statement is a valid truism. One can almost say sacrosanct and should be a bedrock.

    However, the leadership of this nation – all men/women like you and me principally – did not stipulate any plebiscite type movement as a bedrock requirement for constitutional change at least not directly. It is implied based on the fact that representatives of the House, where changes are made and ratified, are elected by the people but no where is it specifically set that a referendum (agreement after perusal of the people) must be the agent of change re the constitution.

    All that to say, we the people – short of the violence, you abhor – do indeed have the ability to drive the change but its via a process that is measured and deliberative.

    Street protests, peaceful disobedience and vocal social media are all valuable tools but at day’s end they must still be fashioned into a strong parliamentary voice to effect the constitutional change.

  34. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Related to all this and using @David’s remark as the reference re: “…it suits the expediency of the political class to change the Constitution” is the simple fact that people are becoming more aware, bit by bit, of exactly how expedient leaders actually are. Two examples spotlight that perfectly.

    Definitive constitutional rules were circumvented to appoint the current Chief Justice. The people were not really consulted then and nor did they protest vehemently for being left out. A comparable situation can be found with the disputed appointment of the new justice to the US Supreme Court. There too that constitution is being ‘circumvented’ by the refusal of the Republicans to hold hearings to confirm/deny any appointment.

    A slap in the face to the constitution when it suits those in power.

    The other example is the current election brouhahas. Bajans must be thankful that Maria Agard has challenged her dismissal in court as it gives a ventilation on the operational process for candidate selection. Regardless of the outcome of the court case we should now be more aware that in many instances the will of the man and woman in the street does not drive the process. It is the backroom decision making.

    And again the same (similar) is seen in US. Whether one loves Trump or not his loud annoyance that the delegate selection process for his party’s nominee is being hijacked is clearly a notification that leaders always have a backroom method to steal the will of the people.

    When that theft is to our overall good we are overjoyed…but of course that expediency is not always to our good.

    The process called elections was exactly the method to get our wishes and intentions heard and supposedly to ensure that our will was not going to be circumvented. But ‘eyes wide open’ we surely see that ain’t’ working as it was expected!

    So short of ‘the blood’ the blogmaster spoke I am sure we know what is needed to effect change … as I am also sure we will not get it done!


  35. Blood? You would become a ‘colony’ again as you would get a detachment of US marines so quickly and so far up your butt that you will not be able to squeeze out a fart,

  36. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    All of the above positions carry such validity of perspective that one could easily say “they are all right.

    Jeff rightfully says that changing the Constitution or even amending it is not as simple as it seems. It cannot be an assignment for students because that suggests auto spontaneous pertinent amendments much a kin to a rudderless ship.

    Mrs. Cole, and my girlfriend Suzanne, speak to constitutional change being necessary, that is, if we seriously wish to deal with many perilous? matters of state that we see staring in our faces

    Suzanne appends this to say that said changes cannot AND MUST NOT BE in a vacuum, it has to involve the people and cannot be done in the quiet under a bushel

    Brother Bush Tea says, such in in the styling of solitude that one Gollop et al were utilizing and may still be. An act in and of itself, given the appointment of this, and the previous Chief Justice, may shed light as to what was/is intended particularly if, and when, there are any legal challenges.

    Certainly the challenge that David Commissiong is bringing per the Terrorism Act 2015 will disclose these concerns and our fears that under DLP or BLP we are moving to a one party state.

    Mrs. Cole, I have seen your facebook page and am concerned about some of the “unbiased” content on your site. By unbiased i mean, your being here, championing change yet having one of the same “foxes guarding the Constitution Reform chickens, so clearly visible on your FB page. So it would seem that in one breath you say “we mush change, and then in the other you say “this is the change we need!’

    The Honourable Blogmaster has, without doubt “drawn his line in the sand” for all to see.

    As such relates to all things Bajan, this BU campaign, these many years, evidences, with unflailing certainly, his undaunted commitment of Citizen Empowerment be it individual or collective rights.

    He has and continues to champion the absolute need for the studied discourse and dialogue that is needed and commensurate ventilation of proposals to be adopted to get us there.

    My friend DPD is a pragmatist, he makes you look at yourself and what you are saying, and if it is sound or on shifting sand.

    How do we engage the public? so that it is not just 2 of 288,000 chanting against this oppression and imminent imprisonment?

    Dare I suggest that as one of our tools we can use ads. Simple ads, like that below.

    http://imgur.com/6uX45aF

    This is how “certain types” of ads work for the bring or brilliant or the slow of mind, like me.

    Ads. Fliers or videos.

    The first element of an “ad” speaks to the (or presents an) emotive issue and conveys through words or images how detrimental the matter is to, let us say, health, social well being, whatever.

    Its second part shows who, or what, the problem/culprit is, and may even show someone or something effecting/facilitating the culpable act

    The third part is “the solution” being proposed and may pose that one remove the problem by means “x”while showing a benefit/resolution or alternative

    I can only say that I identify with Suzanne’s position “by any means necessary,” barring violence and arms, for even soldiers, of which cadre I am not one, grow tired of guns and resort to “soft” words.

    Let us continue as the new calibre of “soldiers” who in picking up pens, computers and/or scathing tongues, use, in addition to other media, the new battlefield of social commentary, which, irrespective of the previous monopoly by the imported masters, from T&T, is not constrained by delivery routes to houses but, with the flick of a switch, 100K email are sent to recipients on list or sent to 150K cellular phone numbers (I am sorry if I have exposed the Kryptonite of those fellows who have added your efforts to the Wolf Pack)

    We “anonymice” and those of us not so anonymous, need to cloak ourselves with the armour of doing that which is right, and not that which is popular.

  37. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    And since I know that Dribbler will examine the artistic aspects of the following item here is something Sam’s relative showed me lol

    https://youtu.be/gofs13jA81A

    THis video provides an compressed example of an “emotive issue”, one person set against another, and a statement of denouement as the “solution” proposed

    @ Dribbler

    Your critique is expected and is always welcome and will not incur a response of it being sedition or treason.

    And before you say it, yes some to the written content is “too fast” but you would be quite amazed at how many people will pause it to examine the content for their future adoption and replication.

    Said parties to adopt may even include the subjects lol

    My substantive point is this.

    As it relates to the Constitution and others of the issues here it is clear that we are dealing with the lives of our citizenry and we cant affort to make mistakes with our country.

    What is at stake her is too serious for our population of 288,000, with a lauded literacy rate of 98%, to be effing around based on allegiances to simpletons.

    But then again, Dribbler, we must not forget that the Kadooment festivities have begun so “we having a good time” so we can expect that any law can and will be passed while the LOO and her peeples are out partying

  38. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Provocative as usual Mr Pieces. Quite. And funny too.

    I read a report yesterday re an entrepreneur’s assertion that by end of year he will have ‘driver-less’ cars on the road for a value of US$1,000 and immediately discussions here came to mind…re innovation, room for growth and developing new ideas.

    Of course the driver-less car is not new per se as they are several prototypes being tested currently but this company ‘Comma.Ai’ is founded by one of these brazen, brain-blessed youth who started out by hacking the un-hackable stuff and now being bored out of life has evolved into an ‘accepted’ developer.

    His intent is to create a kit that can be installed in (any) car that transforms it to ‘hands-free’ road-safe transportation …

    That too is provocative!

  39. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Artificial Intelligence.

  40. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ De Pedantic Dribbler,

    Since we are in that vein of thought regarding “innovating” I will share that I have always felt that the minds of our youth were, and still are not, properly challenged. But that is another discourse for somewhere else but suffice it to say that there is a place for “ethical hacking” where our IT dependent institutions should be able to benefit from that expertise to harden their firewalls.

    It permits these fertile minds the opportunities to expand but Lord Forbid if the Governor of our Central Bank deploy some of the IDB grant? funds towards facilitating such innovation to say, protect the constantly failing, NIS platform.

    I want you to look at the phenomena of the Season of Kadooment and how, even as we speak, sponsorship is being secured for T-Shirts and shorts, and all sorts of merriment to facilitate the wukking up.

    I am made to understand that one of those Crop Over get ups can costs $300 yet, we can bet that youth, many of whom are not employed, find the money to outfit themselves.

    Concomitantly we are going to find that corporate Barbados, establishments like say DIGICEL and other entities, are going to find significant advertising $$ to fund “the fun in the sun.”

    Like many of us Bajans, I too have grown to expect some shootings on the highway, a few deaths, some cutlass attacks etc as they make their way to Brighton, some customary stabbings, the usual indecent exposure and involvement of the 8 and 9 year olds and a few assault of females on the road.

    Imagine if, instead of the effort spent in the frolicking and hedonism if, we were to put some more time in something else?

    Imagine if Mrs Heather Cole were to solicit the support of the LOO, and or various businesses in Barbados to promote a sensitization campaign about The Right to Vote, Fair and Free Elections or The Need for and the Mechanism to Seek Constitutional Reform.

    Imagine as opposed to us doing all this fancy writing in the 650 word constraint of this blog, if we were to do something other than talk?

    http://imgur.com/bGSljgu

    You feel that any of these corporate business houses being cnavassed by the loquacious Chamber of Commerce, might be inclined to support this internal reflection and catch word
    interest that people all around are voicing “Time for a Change”?

    Whu you thing Dribbler?

  41. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    My sweet piece

    That is what I am talking about, generating the type of awareness via technology and the use of flyers and posters. Wish I had done that graphic’s art course. BU generates a lot of meaningful discussions, but many have a reading span of two paragraphs or less. A simple video with a specific message, a flyer that points out particular disgusts and the need to reform them by applying pressure to the unmovable mentalities, provides the greatest impetus to effect change.

    A flyer or poster with the words: Whom do they serve- Themselves or WE
    A poster with the words: No to anticorruption laws means less Transparency and Accountability. It’s just the way they like it.
    A poster with the words; To B or not to D what is the difference.
    A poster with the words: Is our politics transparent enough to tell the truth
    A poster with the words: Buy a CJ today. Cost? Loyalty to Change Very Little, Ask SIMMAR- A working model of the S.A.M.E. Selected At My Expense!

    The canvassing for change can start with this simple online protest. Talk, fancy words. and writing will take you that far, then comes action, which is the real driving force to inspire change.


  42. JUSTICE DELAYED.

    “Almost four years since he was arrested and charged with the murder of his estranged wife he has been released on bail.”

  43. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Hants

    A nice little poster to point out the unbelievable process that is our justice system after two appointed Chief Justices were to bring about the greatest of changes. The only word that can sum up what change is happening in Barbados is the word the S.A.M.E

    The acronym for the SIMMONS AND MARSTON EFFECT that resulted in very little change in the practice of changing the highly criticised judicial process of Barbados

    TIME THAT THE PEOPLE SELECT THEIR CHOICE OF CJ FROM A LIST OF SUITABLE CANDIDATES REGIONALLY, INTERNATIONALLY OR FROM HOME SOIL.


  44. Sunshine Sunny Shine April 13, 2016 at 2:32 AM #

    And Sunny actually thinks that such action will make a difference. To wit, ignorance is bliss.


  45. Well Well

    You would have had to had a direct knowledge of the level of violence in the streets of America to comprehended President Clinton actions, regarding the incarceration of so many black youths during the 1990s.

  46. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Crusoe

    Then provide what action you think would be more appropriate besides talk, talk, talk. Right now you have so much ignorant being exhibited in the management of the Barbados economy by the Stuart administration and all you got to offer to effect change is that ignorant is bliss. What is your alternative since you seem to have a plan of action.

  47. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Dompey…I did…and is it any better now, the violence is still vicious in every walk of life, ya just not find that many body parts strewn across Eastern Parkway anymore, but police are complaing that crime is steadily rising.

    As a matter of fact, some recidivists started using the prisons as a revolving door and they had to start charging a processing fee every time someone got arrested…that is what Clinton’s scheme caused.


  48. @ SSS
    The only word that can sum up what change is happening in Barbados is the word the S.A.M.E
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Did you mean S.H.A.M.E…?

  49. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “As a matter of fact, some recidivists started using the prisons as a revolving door and they had to start charging a processing fee”

    That’s actually the city and county jails.

    When people are homeless, just commit a crime, free room and board, the taxpayers pay…until they started charging a processing fee for that scam..lol

    SSS…as I said, all you will hear from some on here is how nothing can be done, it’s a negative mentality that prevails and manifests non action.

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