Convicted Murderer of Russian Teenager Appeals His Sentence in Barbados, May 5, 2015
Submitted by Amy L.Beam
Anna Druzhinina
On May 5, the Court of Appeals of Barbados (in the new High Court building) will hear the appeal of Teerath Persaud for the length of his sentence for manslaughter of Anna Druzhinina. It took family friend, Amy Beam, two years (and a new Registrar of the Court) to obtain the transcripts from the trials of the two murderers (McCollin and Persaud) of Anna Druzhinina, a popular and loved 16-year-old Russian girl who lived in Barbados and was hanged in her home November 8, 2008.
Appeals are heard by 3 judges, including the Chief Justice. Court opens at 9AM and is open to the public. Beam wrote about the murder of her friend, Anna Druzhinina, in 2013, after the manslaughter trial of Teerath Persaud was completed and he was sentenced to 21 years of which he has now served six-and-a-half years.
Counting one year as actually only 9 months for “good behavior,” Persaud could be eligible for release in under 10 years. BFP published the story written by Dr. Amy L. Beam in 3 parts in 2013: Barbados murder of Russian teen Anna Druzhinina: Censorship and Travesty of Justice. The Barbados Nation News also published the story – the cache is still available and the URL Death Load.
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The way things are going in our courts, I won’t be surprised if he gets away with timed served and and apology. That bastard should never see the outside of a prison again.
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I honestly don’t know how the horrible torture and MURDER of an innocent 16 year old girl could have been classified as manslaughter.These two should have been hanged, but at least given life sentences.Travesty of justice.
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Teerath Persaud doesn’t sound like a Guyanese name to you? Maybe, that might explain why he got manslaughter.
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@Caswell
Boy you are mashing the crease, you see they took out Deeds.
It will be interesting to hear the mitigating argument for Persaud.
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David
I am behind the crease with my bat and pad close; I am punishing in the bad balls and playing the good ones to suit. Persaud’s case help to establish a pattern.
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Is this where legal academicians on the Hill could carve a role by delivering case reviews? There must be a way to do it without offending protocols.
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It appears to me that the 21 year sentence of Teerath Persaud will be confirmed.
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David
My views on this case are well known, and they have not changed. I have previously articulated my position on BU. Please follow the link below:
https://barbadosunderground.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/murder-or-manslaughter-depends-on-who-is-the-killer/
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Caswell, that comment from Appeals Judge Peter Williams that your statement was intellectually sound but that you are not an intellectual is a classic.
Your argument was intellectually sound but you lost because it was not delivered by an intellectual. OMG.
And still we struggle to understand how profound there is a social class stratification in Barbados. A snob appeal.
The elite are the elite and then they are the rest of we.
You should have that quote prepared in lovely calligraphy suitably ascribed, framed and placed in a place of prominence in your office or study.
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Barring two of the disciples most of those chosen by Jesus the Christ were “unlearned” men who were chosen by the Son of the Living God, so that His Works might be made Perfect in the Imperfection that is man.
We ignorant denizens of this sphere and sheeple of this island would seek to rewrite that which hath been written from the foundation of this earth.
What Mr. Franklyn has experienced and will experience re: the social graces of a lost society commenting on his inability to make a wise contribution by virtue of his “pedigree” or lack thereof, as they see it,, is emblematic of what we will encounter in a society that has lost its way.
In the cauldron of the fire and the obvious loss of direction, it is still my hope (and that of Bush Tea) that men like Mr. Franklyn stop for a while in his pursuits to promote his Unity? Union and turn to the bleeding altar of political service.
Whatever lies within your “closet” cannot be of such a nature that, on putting on the garment of social redress, the Bajan populace would be so aggrieved at it that it would see you in a light so poor that you would be slaughtered.
Let me see if I can go down a list of “things that Would Make One Loose an Election”
WIFE BEATING. Remember the wife/woman beaters * from Deacons, St James and Eden Lodge, three notorious and well known politicians who, even in spite of their known predilections, have run and continue to run, and hold seats.
TIEFING (GUVMENT MONEY & TEKKING BRIBES. Remember this is a matter that we need to SPEAK to in our HOUSE that is the collective house of our nation. Can a man point at you and say that you overcharged $700K for legal advice, or that you charged $30K for cutting down a tree , setting up accounts in foreign jurisdictions so that when you approve FDI and overseas corporation tax exemptions, you are well awarded in US Dollars
BULLING & LESBIANISM. You can be assured that even if you was a ladies man that you are going to be accused of both so what is the bother. And, technically speaking both are true. Not that will cause you to open your eyes but let the ole man explain. Lesbians like women right? You like women too? So that doan mek you a lesbian? Bulling. Every day, through the inaction of men like you Mr. Franklyn, you allow yourself and other men like me to get bend over and get things done to us, without grease.
There is really nothing else that you need to address when running for politics – character assassinations, accusations of tiefing and being called a homo or a wicker.
We need men like you for national service who can change this posturing that allows Anna’s murderers to be “so laxly sentenced” that they can seek some loophole, afforded by the ineptitude of *** to seek to escape from this sentence.
But then again one would ask the question why 6 life sentences were accorded the murderers of Tiffany Harding, Kelly-Ann Welch, Shanna Griffith, Nikkita Belgrave of Barbados; Kellishaw Olivierre of St Vincent; and Pearl Amanda Cornelius of Guyana but 21 years afforded this Guyanese? murderer?
Answer the call to duty Mr. Franklyn
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Dr. Myles Munroe, the religious leader who died in a plane in the Bahamas today, once preached that “the value of life is not in its duration, but in its donation.”
We are not supposed to bury our offspring, It kills the human spirit. That is the ole man’s feeling abut these things but that is a personal feeling, I am not “He who plumbed the Earth” and “Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.”
I weep for Anna Druzhinina, Tiffany Harding, Kelly-Ann Welch, Shanna Griffith, Nikkita Belgrave, Kellishaw Olivierre and Pearl Amanda Cornelius.
But I weep for Barbados more because, while we would stop and look at this incredulous issue, through a looking glass complexioned by (i) purported favouritism towards criminals of a particular nationality and them being given free passes for egregious crimes or (ii) others whose $$ is brought to bear in criminal matters so that in a fit of rage we can kill king WITHOUT any fear of retribution, save that GOD WILL ACCORD US, or bring cocaine in the island in truck bodies and the case never be heard.
The real issue here is how, by these seemingly disconnected events, a chairman here, a judge there, a CoP cross there, a PS down there, a Comptroller under there, and of course the natural denominator, politicians, ant their lackey senators, all over the place, slowly and inexorably, we are sliding into the claws of incompetence, social anarchy and doan carishness.
Let us face it. We have all adopted the attitude “as long as it is not happening to my family WE JUST DONT CARE!!!”
And Like de Merriboys in their song say “when de men kill de men, all dat gine be lef is women”, it seems as if the thought is “let them kill out each other and all the crime is going to stop!!
So we have become a generation led by administrators, pastors, leaders, politicians, “deciders” (George Bush’s word) who simply, dont really care a French Connection.
I was here writing and I paused to ask myself what could change this?
De ole man closed my eyes and screamed what could change this? and the answer came back to me, there is nothing that I, or any of us can do, OF OURSELVES.
It is not GOD’s WILL that we should die, for such would render the Fruit of the Tree of Life, and Jesus, the Way, The Truth and The Light, meaningless.
Those of us who believe in GOD, or other Deity that you revere, let us just take a stand for what is expected of us by our respective Creators.
Those of you who do not believe in GOD, calibrate yourselves based on the principles of what is right and just and give input driven by such.
At the end of our individual reviews what we arrive at is a collective realization that this mess that we are in, if we stay here in our inaction, like stagnant water, in graeme hall swamp, we die.
I do pray that the long arm of “reverse xenophobia” which we Bajans have lately been practicing against ourselves, does not so taint the minds of our 3 Judges that they entertain and secede from justice into the fold of supporting the “Free pass for Guyanese murderers” that of late, has surfaced in Barbados
I pray that GOD remember you all in His Kingdom
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All of you hear know that the British has said to Barbados: get rid of hanging and get rid of your bullying Laws or NO TOURISTAS to your shores. You tink Fumble foolish. This man shall walk free!!!!
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The RBPF have upped their game and catch criminals at a stupendous rate. Its time for the courts to match the stellar performance of the police and send criminals particularly murders to jail quickly and for methuselah spells. When a shooter leaves jail he should not have the strength or the inclination to pull a trigger. He should be at least 90 years old if he lives that long. Crimes of domestic violence should put away offenders for long long spells that breakdown their muscle and spirit. That’s the way you deter the boys on the block and others from entering a life of crime. Kudos to the police they have the bad men on the run. The courts must up their game. Sending crooked lawyers to jail has started and must be intensified. BU’s lawyers list in the right hand column should all be facing prison time. Over to you men and women of the judiciary. We are watching.
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Togetherness you forgot to mention corrupt politicians.
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re It is not GOD’s WILL that we should die, for such would render the Fruit of the Tree of Life, and Jesus, the Way, The Truth and The Light, meaningless.
SIR CAN U PLEASE KINDLY CITE RELEVANT SCRIPTURES, RIGHTLY DIVIDED IN THEIR CONTEXTS TO SUPPORT YOUR HERESY HERE.
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It will be terrible if these men sentences are cut. They killed this young beautiful young girl, her parents will never, ever see her again in this life, and this country calls that justice, and now want to cut the sentence. the sentences should be increased, or or they should be hanged, just as they did to that young girl.
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I understand that Ms Beam has in her possession the Official Court transcripts of the Trials of Persaud and Mc Collin .The murderers of little Girl up at Palmers Plantation.
That the transcripts show that DPP LEACOCK, gave false evidence in abundance to the Courts at both of the trials.
RPP LEACOCK ,lied thro his teeth.
At the First trial that of McCollin, the DPP said that the accused , went for Revenge and Robbery and that Mc Collin was just really not the one who was responsible ,that Persaud was.
At the Second of the trials that of PERSAUD, the DPP reversed the whole process and made PERSAUD the one who was ,lets say, “just along for the ride”.
Allowed mitigating evidence of what a “nice man” Persaud was; from his previous wife from Guyana and his current “wife” in Barbados, evidence which was taken into account and used to allow for a reduction in sentence time.
EVEN THO there was evidence previously shown by the Police that Persaud had not been divorced from his first wife and was said to have bigamously married the woman in Barbados.
Did not inform the Court that there was a current arrest warrant for Persaud in the matter of a vicious assault on an old man and presented Persaud to the Court as being of PREVIOUS good character. To obtain a more favourable sentencing.
Did not have Persaud charged with Arson after Persaud had been involved in burning Palmers Planatation Great house ,causing many 100,s of thousands of $ of destruction.
Did not make any sort of case against Persaud at all.
Even tho clothing owned by Persaud was found at the scene of the crimes and that the “accomplice” McCollins ,had given statements to the Police as to the extent of Persauds vicious attitude and behaviour ,in the course of the murder of the child.
That Persaud had stated whilst the child was dieing, strangling on the end of electric flex,when McCollin had told Pertsaud “she is not dead”.
That Persaud,s words were” leave her ONE LESS we have to DEAL with”
The DPP indicated there were no grounds for a murder charge.
Much much more.
David, I am sure Ms Beam would be glad to send you copies of the transcripts for you to publish and show up the Criminal Farce fabricated by The DPP of Barbados CHARLES LEACOCK.
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@ Dr Love – are not the transcripts of the trial public documents? If so, surely there is no reason not to publish them or extracts therefrom highlighting your assertions.
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Dr. GP,
I repeat IT IS NOT GOD’S WILL THAT WE SHOULD DIE for if it were so after the death of the first Adam, HE would not have sent HIS SON so that we could have Eternal Life AND NOT DIE THE SECOND DEATH!!
You might be knowledgeable of the Medical Books but of HIs Word I am no slouch kind sir.
The concatenation and brevity of my previous post was intentional since I DID NOT WANT TO MAKE AN ARTICLE ABOUT ANNA AND THE OTHERS A BIBLICAL TREATISE and to be sure sir I WILL NOT.
@ Dr. Love
Mitchlans has a point.
The article posted brings to the forefront an issue which any parent, black or white, will identify with – the pain of a mother or father whose child was so heinously murdered.
If one of the grans goes in a car or plane accident while one would grieve, one would be less angered than when one’s child is left to strangle and then burnt.
I would not do that to a dog or a cat furthermore a human. Would You? ISIS does though, without the strangling…
A person in possession of these supporting documents, especially mindful of the time that it took for them to get them, (maybe to allow for some sort of doctoring?) may be “better served” by the exposure.
IF what you are saying is true, send it to David the Blogmaster.
Many of us have heard 2nd or third hand of the modus of Barbados’ Director of Public Prosecutions but it would be interesting to see him up close and personal.
“”Unless I see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”
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since you are no slouch in the Bible then explain
it is written in Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die.
it is written in Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death,
it is written in Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God..
it is written in Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die ….
Your answer is most unsatisfactory Sir. You did not answer the question I asked
Besides being a Dr in Medicine …………………………..LOL
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PIECE IS A BIBLE MAN NOW
ANOTHER ONE ON BU WHO WOULD LIKE TO TEACH BIBLE TO A BIBLE SCHOLAR
piece ARGUES It is not GOD’s WILL that we should die, for such would render the Fruit of the Tree of Life, and Jesus, the Way, The Truth and The Light, meaningless.
FIRST IT IS “I am the way and the truth and the life.
life piece not light JOHN 14:6 LOL
I ASKED SIR CAN U PLEASE KINDLY CITE RELEVANT SCRIPTURES, RIGHTLY DIVIDED IN THEIR CONTEXTS TO SUPPORT YOUR HERESY HERE. AND YOU RESPOND WITH SOME GOO
WONDER IF ANY WILL DIE AFTER THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT ACCORDING TO HIS ERRATIC ERRONEOUS STATEMENT.
WONDER WHAT JOHN MEANS IN JOHN 5:29
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PIECE SO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FIRST ADAM AND THE SECOND ADAM?
HERE IS A LIKKLE PIECE ON CHRIST THE LAST ADAM
HOPE YA LEARN SOMETHING
Head of the old creation. The head of the new
Received the breath of life “Breathed on them the breath of life”
Gave to man a body of flesh, Gives to man a body, incorruptible
corruptible.
Became a living soul. Became a ….. quickening spirit
Gave to man a sinful spirit. Sent to man the Holy Spirit.
Gave the substance from which Will give glorified bodies when He comes
temporal bodies come
Links with the earth, earthy. Links with the heaven, heavenly
Was provided with food Suffered for food
Was the first citizen of the old world Was the first-born of the new world
Was challenged by Satan Challenged Satan
Was tempted in the garden Was tempted in the wilderness
Was the chief cornerstone of Is the chief cornerstone of the new world
the old creation.
Was tested by Satan and fell Was tested by Satan, and triumphed.
Brought death and destruction. Brought everlasting joy life and joy
Was tempted in the physical appetite Was tempted in the physical appetite
Was tempted to presumption, and sinned Was tempted to presumption, without sin.
Was tempted by power an ambition, Was tempted likewise, and overcame.
and succumbed.
In sin lost his claim to the old world In death and resurrection proves His claim in the new world
Surrendered God’s Word to Satan Resisted Satan with God’s Word.
Was ruined by Satan Will eventually ruin Satan
Was driven from Paradise by humiliation Will regain Paradise in glorification.
Gives a fall nature, from below. Gives a new nature, from above.
Is the old model of man, subject to sin Is the new model for man, perfect and sinless.
Was the first in insurrection, bringing Is the first resurrection, bringing life
death
Ate of the tree of knowledge, forfeited life IS the Tree of Life, insuring eternal life.
His first son was a murderer. Is God’s only begotten Son, the savior.
His posterity built and lived in man’s city His followers will live in God’s City.
Brought sorrow, pain, tears, and death Shall wipe away all tears, sorrow, and death
into the world. In the world to come.
His home was temporal, marred by sin. His mansion is eternal, “Wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
Ruled over the old creation Will reign over the new creation.
With his bride was set over the first With His bride will rule over a redeemed
creation. Creation.
Took to himself a bride, the woman, Will take to Himself a Bride who cannot
who fell. Fall.
Had a bride from his body. Will have bride which IS His body.
His son, Abel, was the first man to slay WAS the sacrificial Lamb, “Slain before
a typical sacrificial lamb. The foundation of the world.”
Was tempted by the serpent, the devil, Will conquer the serpent and cast him into the pit.
His fall was death to the race. Triumphs in life FOR the race.
Was given speech to communicate with Is the Living Word, revealing God.
God.
Was cast from the Garden of Eden. Prayed in the garden of Gethsemene..
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PIECE IS A BIBLE MAN NOW
ANOTHER ONE ON BU WHO WOULD LIKE TO TEACH BIBLE TO A BIBLE SCHOLAR
piece ARGUES It is not GOD’s WILL that we should die, for such would render the Fruit of the Tree of Life, and Jesus, the Way, The Truth and The Light, meaningless.
PIECE HOW MANY MEN YOU KNOW THAT HAVE NOT DIED AFTER LIVING OUT THIER DAYS?——-EXCEPT OF COURSE ENOCH AND ELIJAH?
OF COURSE THEY ARE MANY THAT WILL NOT DIE WHEN CHRIST COMES AT THE RAPTURE AS TAUGHT IN 1 THES 4:14-18 & 1 CORINTHIANS 15:51-57
AM I A SLOUCH PIECE MA BOY YA OLD HERETIC!
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this is going to get interesting some fast bowling going on here by GP with piece at crease so far he is swiping blindly,,LOL…and GP (Gran Pa ) has already licked down a couple stumps,,, LIGHTS seems to be getting DIM for PIECE but i guess he might have a little LIFE left( some where) after he comes back from lunch
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BU will be happy to post the transcripts under another blog.
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ac checking back to see if play resumes,, i guess Piece call in for Bad light,,, he couldn.t be having lunch this long.. ac will check back later i think..
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Pieceuhderock said “….It is not GOD’s WILL that we should die, for such would render the Fruit of the Tree of Life, and Jesus, the Way, The Truth and The Light, meaningless.”
John 3:16 says “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life…. (not die)…
Can someone please explain what GP is trying to say….?
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PIECE YA WANNA TALK ABOUT THE TREE OF LIFE MENTIONED ONLY THRICE IN THE BIBLE AT
Genesis 2
Revelation 2:9
Revelation 22:2
PIECE DO I SOUND LIKE A SLOUCH PIECE
• The overcomers at Ephesus are promised the gift of eternal life. The symbolism of salvation for the Ephesians is “the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God” (2:7).
• These symbols stand for eternal life in the kingdom of God.
• Both symbols go back to the beginning of the Old Testament. Where the centerpiece of the Garden of Eden was the tree of life, a symbol for eternal life (2:9).
• The Tree of Life is first mentioned in Genesis 2 as one of the many trees that were given to Adam and Eve for food. But, that earthly tree was lost in the Garden of Eden when Adam and Eve chose to sin.
• We see the tree of life symbol again in Revelation 22:2 in the new heavens and the new earth, where it symbolizes eternal life. That Tree of Life will last forever. It is never going to be lost again.
• The use of the same symbol is an illustration of the unity of the two Testaments in their presentation of the gospel.
• Genesis 2-3 describes a Paradise Lost to Adam and Eve because of sin; the book of Revelation promises a Paradise Regained through the blood of the Lamb.
• The church resurrected to life (the New Jerusalem) will receive salvation (eat fruit from the tree of life) in the Lamb’s eternal kingdom (the Garden of Eden and Paradise of God).
• The paradise of God is that new heaven and that new earth that we look forward to that we read about in Revelation 21 and 22.
• We can look forward to that Tree of Life that we will never lose.
• That paradise of God in the future is so much better in the Garden of Eden because there will never be any chance of sin in that new paradise.
• So, what he is promising them is that you have eternal life.
• We are to relish it and look forward to that new future, in the new heaven, and the new earth.
• We are to relish our eternal hope. It is there. We are to persevere and live for it.
• To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the Paradise of God (Rev. 2:7b).
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bushie
Pieceuhderock said “….It is not GOD’s WILL that we should die, for such would render the Fruit of the Tree of Life, and Jesus, the Way, The Truth and The Light, meaningless.”
John 3:16 says “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life…. (not die)…
very good bushie YOU CAN QUOTE A BIBLE VERSE OUT OF ITS CONTEXT
BUT to whom is The SPEAKER TALKING that will have eternal life……….those who believe
so will others not die?
WHAT DOES THESE VERSES SAY AND MEAN E.G HERE IN gENESIS 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
WHAT DOES THESE VERSES SAY AND MEAN
it is written in Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die.
it is written in Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death,
it is written in Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God..
it is written in Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die ….
Can someone please explain what bushie is trying to say….?
WHAT DOES THE WORD DIE MEAN IN GENESIS 2?
WHAT DOES JOHN MEAN IN jOHN 5:24-29
OR IN rEVELATION WHEN HE SPEAKS OF THE SECOND DEATH
HOW MANY GREEK OR HEBREW WORDS ARE TRANSLATED DEATH IN OUR ENGLISH BIBLE
WHAT ARE THEIR PRIMARY MEANINGS/?
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GP
I am not a biblical scholar. I am just a Star Trek fan so please excuse my ignorance and the conclusions I draw about Elijah. But have you ever considered that the chariot of fire and horses of fire was actually a space ship, and that the fire was in fact the exhaust plasma? Horses don’t have fire coming from their tails. The mode of transport in those times were chariots so a person would more than likely call a vehicle a chariot because that is what he knows. The whirlwind was caused by the exhaust kicking up dust. Amen.
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@ GP
Man go and drink a malt or something and cool yuhself…. basic English Grammar…
The subject of Piece’s sentence is GOD’s WILL…. In other words, What GOD would LIKE to have occur…
Piece says that this “WILL” is for everyone to have LIFE rather than DEATH.
John 3:16 says that GOD’s “will” is for man to have everlasting live ..and that OUT OF LOVE, he gave his only (begotten) son so that WHOSOVER believe this son WILL have such life….
This has NOTHING to do with the wages of sin; the appointment of men to die; or the soul that sinneth……..
You bringing a cannon to a fist fight….. but your ammunition is wet….
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@ David
This whole episode of that child’s murder and the followup official and legal shenanigans in Barbados is a disgrace on all of us …that we could not only allow such a travesty to be perpetrated on a family, but that there has been NO CENSURE of those involved; no changes in administration; and indeed no change in our modus operandi since.
How in GOD’s name can we as a country NOT expect to be seriously CURSED and to bare serious consequences for perpetrating, condoning and allowing such levels of wickedness and misuse of justice…?
Without repentance, restitution and CHANGE at the NATIONAL level, the price that we will pay will be beyond ANYTHING that we have ever contemplated in this country…..EVER….
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GP
I am not arguing; I am seeking knowledge. I was only asking you if my I were making sense.
Sent from my iPad
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Caswell Franklyn May 5, 2015 at 10:13 PM #
GP
re I am not arguing; I am seeking knowledge. I was only asking you if my I were making sense.
i know that and you were making sense as I explained except for the exhaust part which I would need to research as that is not considered aS important as the CONCEPT OF ENOCH AND ELIJAH BEING TRANSLATED TO HEAVEN AS A PREFIGUREMENT FOR THE IMMINENT RAPTURE OF TE CHURCH
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@ David
The appeal for a reduction of the already ridiculous sentence for this heinous and senseless murder adds insult to the family’s injury….and to the country’s…
This brings to mind the role of JUDGES in the whole justice system. Is it that the judges’ hands are tied when clear manoeuvres are being made to corrupt the course of justice?
Is there no way that a REAL, upright judge can now review this case during appeal, and actually impose a more meaningful punishment – like live in prison?
One gets the impression that our Judges are more committed to process and form, than they are to JUSTICE and fairness.
@ GP
..surely you have someone who care enough about you to recognise that you need some kind of help….possibly psychiatric…
You are, by your ongoing attitude, unmannerliness, and illogic, demonstrating to one and all that whoever it was that chased you away from Barbados and ignored your ramblings did indeed do the country a great favour….
Shiite man, this is a serious blog about a painful issue of national import and you ranting and raving about a SIMPLE straightforward statement by Piece that GOD’s will is that all men should live and not die….OBVIOUSLY the subject of GOD’s will is SPIRITUAL life and death as opposed to physical life and death….
Why the hell don’t you start your own blog if you want to brag about some shiite you teach or learned in bible school…. and while you are at it, you can explain the simple issues that you were previously asked about the” Trinity” and “why Jesus spoke in parables”….
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Ok. GRN PA has eased u some of his fire power on Batsman #3 , folks but dont hold wunna breathe that is the calm before the storm.. wonda what he meant horses do not have fire coming from their tails but doing research on exhaust for chariots,, Once again gran pa is setting out to prove that he can confused the batsman,,one of his specialty tricks often used ,
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Bush Tea May 5, 2015 at 8:36 PM #
John 3:16 says “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life…. (not die)…
Can someone please explain what GP is trying to say….?
DOES John 3:16 say THAT THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN CHRIST WOULD NOT DIE AS BUSHIE THE BIBLE ILLITERATE OPINED?
DID THE APOSTLES INCLUDING PAUL BELIEVE? DID THEY DIE?
HAVE NOT COUNTLESS BELIEVERS NOT DIED THROUGH THE AGES?
WHAT DOES 1 CORINTHIANS 15:21-22 MEAN
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
DOES IT NOT SAY THAT ALL DIE BECAUSE (OF THE SIN OF DISOBEDIENCE) OF OM MAN ,ADAM?
IS THIS NOT TO BE CORROBORATED WITH SCRIPTURES I QUOTED BEFORE AND THAT I WILL QUOTE AGAIN BELOW?
it is written in Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die.
it is written in Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death,
it is written in Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God..
it is written in Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die ….
Can someone ………..ANYONE please explain what PROFESSOR BRASS BOWL WHO KNOWS EVATING BOUT EVATING is trying to say….? ANYONE? ANYONE?
2 Peter 1:20 NOT VERY TRUE ?
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation,
in other words you must use Scripture to interpret Scripture
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RE @ GP
..surely you have someone who care enough about you to recognise that you need some kind of help….possibly psychiatric…
You are, by your ongoing attitude, unmannerliness, and illogic, demonstrating to one and all that whoever it was that chased you away from Barbados and ignored your ramblings did indeed do the country a great favour….
you cant defend what i am saying
YOU CANT REFUTE WHAT I HAVE SAID SO YOU MUST REVERT TO AD HOMINEM
NO ONE CHASED ME FROM BARBADOS I LEFT ON MY OWN STEAM—- AND I AM HAPPY THAT I DID OR I WOULD BE NOW LIVING UNDER FUMBLE’S REGIME
I THANK GOD FOR THAT EVERYDAY
GOD DID ME A GOOD FAVOUR WHEN HIS SPIRIT LEAD ME TO LEAVE BARBADOS
RE his is a serious blog about a painful issue of national import and you ranting and raving about a SIMPLE straightforward statement by Piece that GOD’s will is that all men should live and not die….OBVIOUSLY the subject of GOD’s will is SPIRITUAL life and death as opposed to physical life and death….
ACCORDING TO YOU THEN ONLY JOHN 3:16 is relevant!
SO WHY WERE THE OTHER SCRIPTURES WRITTEN THEN
i dont care two hoots about you or your so calLed serious blog
NOTHING IS MORE SERIOUS THAN THE ACCURATE AND SOUND PRESENTATION OF THE WORD
Why the hell don’t you start your own blog YOU MEAN LIKE THE VERY UNSUCCESSFULL BUSH TEA AT LARGE?
if you want to brag about some shiite you teach or learned in bible school…. and while you are at it, you can explain the simple issues that you were previously asked about the” Trinity” and “why Jesus spoke in parables”….
I WILL DISCUSS THESE IN MY OWN TIME
ALL THAT IS WELL PRESENTED ON THE NET
YOU GETTING VEXED?
GREAT ! i love to anger you when you try to contradict me
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Walking up to the crease and mumbling to himself is batsman Bushshite,, after a short interval of medical treatment to his mout,
ooooh,,, here comes first ball he ducks not taking any chances,, second ball he is almost bowled out but stays safe at the crease to survived another grueling onslaught and punishing bouncers by gran pa. can any one ..anyone predict the outcome of these two rivals,, well we would have to wait and see,, so far a good game although unequally matched but worth watching…
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@Bush Tea
Yes it is a serious blog and we many eagerly await the decision; it will say a lot.
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come on bushie you can do better than that
come wid some more ad hominems
bushie why dont you do the country a great favour and get rid of FUMBLE AND ALL WITH WHOM YOU DONT AGREE – the brass bowls- from Barbados who by thier obvious”
ongoing attitude, unmannerliness, and illogic,” ARE MESSING UP THE COUNTRY?
I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT THE FEW ” ramblings ” I EVER MADE IS “indeed doing the country a great favour since 1986 AND HAS BEN COPIED AND IMPLEMENTED ELSEWHERE VERY SUCESSFULLY….
come on bushie you can do better than that
come wid some more ad hominems
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By the way Bushie BU can see through your obvious attempt to be gallows bait here. Hope GP realizes.
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tick tick tock
bushie getting mock—— and by someone who HE BUSHIE (AKA PROFESSOR BRASS BOWL WHO NOSE EVATING BOUT EVATING) THINK IS A MAD MAN
BUSHIE ONLY KNOW ONE BIBLE VERSE BUT HE DONT KNOW THE ONES THAT LEAD UP TO IT OR FLOW FROM IT
tick tick tock
bushie getting mock——
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David May 5, 2015 at 11:23 PM #
By the way Bushie BU can see through your obvious attempt to be gallows bait here. Hope GP realizes.
HE IS NOT A GALLOWS BAIT HERE DAVID
HE IS SIMPLY A BIBLICAL ILLITERATE AND DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH
HE HAS NO HERMENEUTICAL SKILLS AND WANTS TO DEBATE BIBLE WITH AN ACCOMPLISHED BIBLE SCHOLAR
HE RAN DICTIONARY AND ZOE BUT I AINT GOING NO WAY
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OK…It seems that no one cares enough about you to seek to protect you from your own self inflicted bad manners.
So someone takes the time to post an article on a personal matter related to a family and national tragedy, but you could not care less….as long as you get to brag about how many scripture verses you know…is that it?
We can only hope that your BU persona is very different from the real person …otherwise your life must be a lonely affair ..as you come across as crass, rude, uncaring and hateful.
Shiite man..If your BU persona represents the fruit of the spirit of GOD then Froon must be John the Baptist.
This may come as a serious shock to you too GP, but you are not all that intelligent either…. your famous ‘medical” PowerPoints are mostly basic points of fact easily found on Wikipedia; your BU contributions are largely boisterous bragging about your great medical literacy – or as someone recently explained, as a legal drug dealer; ….and your biblical knowledge is largely by rote, and largely a whole lot of useless Greek shiite….
A simple question, like the one asked you YEARS AGO by “Technician” –
Why did God create the Devil?
….you have no damn clue, …but come here ranting and raving to a simple accurate statement made by Pieceuhderock.
Bushie done with you and that topic on this particular blog…… out of respect for the seriousness of the original moot, and what it must mean to those closely involved….
No doubt you will feel free to continue to insult good taste…
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David May 5, 2015 at 11:23 PM #
By the way Bushie BU can see through your obvious attempt to be gallows bait here. Hope GP realizes.
DAVID ACTUALLY I BAITED BUSHIE TO JUMP INN SO I COULD BASH HE ! LOL
I KNOW THAT HE COULD NOT HELP BUT JUMP IN TO TRY TO CONTRADICT ME
IN A WHILE, ANOTHER PARTICULAR ONE WILL JUMP IN
BARE MOCK SPORT IN DE RUM SHOP
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How can the book inspired and written by the hand of God even here engender such anger and hate filled words? There must be something amiss when an interpretation of the word devolves to remarks like “biblical illiterate”, “bird brain” and so on.
We might as well be dueling Muslims and Christians.
Is the word written to confuse and contradict or to provide a framework and a pathway to faith and the journey to spiritual immortality!
Why are elitist views of being a ‘biblical scholar’ relevant to accept and follow that path and digest the guidance of the carpenter’s son?
Can you really be a shepherd when your every action is to slay the sheep !
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@ D Ingrunt Word May 5, 2015 at 11:49 PM #
RE Why are elitist views of being a ‘biblical scholar’ relevant to accept and follow that path and digest the guidance of the carpenter’s son?
THE WORD BIBLE SCHOLAR IS NOT AT ALL ELITIST AS SEEN FROM READING THE LITERATURE. IS THE WORD LEGAL SCHOLAR ELITIST. YOU ARE A SCHOLAR OR YOU ARE NOT.
RE Can you really be a shepherd when your every action is to slay the sheep !
Suh BUSHIE WHO KNOWS EVATING ABOUT EVATING IS THE SHEPHERD ON BU
HE IS THE ONE WHOSE EVERY ACTION IS TO SLAY THE SHEEP.
IF HE CAN FALSELY CALL ALL BAJANS “brass bowls” WHY CANT I TRUTHFULLY CALL HIM A “biblical illiterate”, “bird brain” and so on.
RE Is the word written to confuse and contradict or to provide a framework and a pathway to faith and the journey to spiritual immortality!
the word WAS written to provide a framework and a pathway to faith and the journey to spiritual immortality BUT YOU HAVE TO STUDY IT AS CLEARLY TAUGHT IN 2 TIMOTHY 2:15
IN YOUR BIAS, YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOT SEEN THE AD HOMINEMS CITED BY PROF BRASS BOWL
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@ The Family of Anna
I am truly ashamed of myself.
I have done you an injustice during your pain and sorrow and this obvious “challenges” with Barbados’ inept court system and our honourable DPP.
@ GP
I WILL NOT ENGAGE YOU HERE, ANYWHERE ELSE, BUT NOT HERE, IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE, DOCTOR GP AND ACTUALLY SMACKS OF TASTELESSNESS
@ David the Blogmaster
Out of deference to the seriousness of the topic, I would think that your suggestion to shift this “Ecclesiastical discourse” where the Pope and Pontiff of the Lord can share with us the mysteries and his mastery of the Good Book.
Someplace else where these (self professed) biblical behemoths might discourse there on things that none of them know about .
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Sorry.
That should read “where we (self professed) biblical behemoths might discourse there on things that none of us know about”
In stating that “know nothing about” I am mindful of Socrates’ Apology which I have partially truncated in support of that “know nothing about” perspective”…., gentlemen, is no other than to think oneself wise when one is not, to think one knows what one does not know…. And surely it is the most blameworthy ignorance to believe that one knows what one does not know.’
So let us engage anew ELSEWHERE CAUSE DE OLE MAN DUN.
@ Dr. Love
Where is the copy of the transcripts??
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My daughter went to school with Anna.
She told me about this court matter and since I have a similar matter in court I just came here to read this.
It is unkind to do this
Anna was a nice girl.
Kind and gentle and if you had known her you could not be doing something like this to a parent who has lost a child.
I might be fighting a court case and commenting on my failure to get a day in court but this is low.
A few days before Anna died my daughter remarked how pensive she had been and you use a place where a person in pain comes to get some recourse from a court system that has failed them, as it has failed me, for eight years, to play a word game with posters?
This is why our country is where we are
Do you have children?
No parent could do this to another parent
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David Weekes May 6, 2015 at 6:26 AM #
“Thine Ingrunce Knows No Bounds.”
Perhaps you have not noticed, if this matter had happened in the United States of America, it would have been taken more seriously.
A child has been murdered in Barbados and we have contributors arguing about the Bible. Yet these same individuals have remained focused enough to post over 700 comments on Freddy Gray and riots in Baltimore, USA.
No wonder the Trinidadians have forced hundreds of Barbadians into the preference of purchasing STAG beer at CBC (which is owned by Barbadian tax payers) “Q in the Community”, while local beers, Banks and Deputy, have to be sold off the premises where this event is being held.
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Freedom of expression is a funny thing. We have it yet some abuse it however the reality is that although we don’t like what other may say at times they have the right to express it good tast or not.
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The question brought to table indicates that the Freddy article generated six hundred comments and attenion and has nothing to do with the affairs of barbados…however the similarties arenot the same .this case went through a judicial process and a sentence was handed dowm to the guilty party whether one agrees or not is disputable.unlike the frddy issue and other similar circumstances. where justice was inappropriately handed down seeing the accusers walk free without as much as spending a day in jail…one must not let their political biases cloud their vision of the totality and impact cases like Freddy have to a democracy which “supposedly”is govern by the rule of law and which has the possibilty if left unfettered w to be govern by the rule of lawlessness and which gives reasonable cause for outrage and attention
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D Ingrunt Word May 6, 2015 at 1:20 AM #
RE Not trying to be biased
YOU ARE BIASED –VERY BIASED
RE Doctor. I can only proceed by aiming to discern what is before me. AIMING TO DISCERN IS CORRECT BUT NOT DISCERNING
RE You initiated the broad-sides with your brick-bats to Pieces. Disagreement is fair. Emotive, invective laden disagreement on the biblical word is the height of bad form (hypocrisy). ON BU THAT IS CALLED CHALLENGING. I MAKE NO APOLOGY FOR WHAT I SAID
RE Context as you mentioned is everything.YOU GOT THAT RIGHT An in-depth scripture essay or discussion with a church group or similar may require scholarship validation.
A blog clarification with the remark “…AND WANTS TO DEBATE BIBLE WITH AN ACCOMPLISHED BIBLE SCHOLAR” is not the tone of a shepherd guiding the less informed.
NO IT IS THE TRUTH! THE ONLY SHEPHERD ON BU IS BUSHTEA
RE It is that of man for whom the posture and posing is more important than clarification of the Word itself. THAT IS YOUR OPINION
The brilliant doctors with profound scholarship but who have a perverse manner with people are either researchers who find great cures or great professors to the next generators of docs (or heavily insured, cantankerous louts)..,similarly, if you are focused on your biblical scholarship and can cite so boldly, ‘IF HE CAN FALSELY CALL ALL BAJANS “brass bowls” WHY CANT I TRUTHFULLY CALL HIM A “biblical illiterate”…” then you have a perverse manner with getting the word to the flock.
BU IS NOT ANY FLOCK AND BUSHTEA IS NOT ONLY A BIBLICAL ILLITERAT BUT A SEED PICKER
REThus you should validate your scholarship and write weighty tomes; as clearly you are experiencing great difficulty in actually practicing the tenets of the Lord about whom you ‘proselytize’ so much here.
I AM HAVING FUN IN THE RUM SHOP AND YOU CAN WRITE YOUR LENTHY TOMES TO TRY TO BASH ME BUT I WILL DO WHAT I WANT OK?
I HAVE THE RIGHT TO POST LIKE EVERY BODY ELSE AND TO EXPRESS MYSELF LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AND I WILL
RE I understand that have completed a fulfilling life and that this is ‘bare mock sport’ but what I really don’t understand is why a biblical person would basically be so anti-christian in manner as he expounds about God.
I DID IT SO THAT NOW YOU CAN BE ADDED AS A WHIPPING BOY TO ME LOL LOL MURDAH
RE That sir speaks to a strange mock sport at the Lord. I believe you scholars might call it sacrilegious.NO MOCK SPORT AT THOSE WHO CONTRADICT MY ACURATE AND RIGHT DIVISION OF THE WORD OF TRUTH
But ingrunt me! EXACTLY!
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pieceuhderockyeahright May 6, 2015 at 3:06 AM #
Sorry.
That should read “where we (self professed) biblical behemoths might discourse there on things that none of us know about”
NOT SELF PROFESSED SIR
STUDIED DILLIGENTLY (BY ROTE LOL)
RE Ino other than to think oneself wise when one is not, to think one knows what one does not know….
I AINT WISE I AM NOT INTELLIGENT (according to bush tea)
the medicine i share on bu can be obtained from wikepedia
but i DEFINITELY KNOW WHAT I KNOW I DONT THINK I KNOW IT
I KNOW I KNOW IT
RE And surely it is the most blameworthy ignorance to believe that one knows what one does not know.’
I DONT BELIEVE I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW
RE So let us engage anew ELSEWHERE CAUSE DE OLE MAN DUN.
GOOD IDEA BECAUSE YOU MISQUOTED JOHN 14:6 YESTERDAY AND YOU COULD NOT RESPOND TO MY CHALLENGE
ALL I DID WAS CHALLENGE
ALL I DID WAS THE BU THING — I CHALLENGED
I OFFERED AND DEFENDED MY VIEW ah lie?
bare mock sport in the rum shop just like tanty merle in the oval ROTFLMAO
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David W, in what sense has this particular blog and the previous ones archived here, abused the ‘kind and gentle’ spirit of the child you knew and for whom you grieve?
How has anyone here been “doing something like this to a parent who has lost a child”?
Anna’s father from what I gleaned from the previous posts was very instrumental in posting and highlighting this very painful matter and he himself did admit – as obviously it would be – that to rehash the affair was very hard on him but he also suggested that to do otherwise would be a travesty to the death of his beautiful daughter.
I hear you pain and concern but how else can we seek redress and properly balm that deep wound unless we pull back the dressing and administer to it afresh.
And oh, every thread has unrelated cross-talk, we are mature enough to dismiss and focus on the point at hand. Which thread has not been filled with unmannerly, disgusting, uncouth commentary?
Back in the days when I debated at school it was considered an art form to ‘dis’ your opponent in the most respectful way possible by showing the fallacy of argument. A good debater never cussed his opponent straight-up. Never.
Here on the blog, manly (womanly) power is to show who can use the best condescending and nastiest rhetoric. It is offensive.
This BU group is like a small village community and when you see the behaviour of someone deemed a wise village elder in a matter of this type it does show the irony and hypocrisy of bloggers now doesn’t it!
I read this blog and was absolutely shocked at the depraved indifference shown by the killers and wept quietly for Anna. But unless these matters are highlighted in all their base gory narrative how then can we become aware of the utter depravity and callous collusion that also drives those on the ‘right’ side of our criminal justice system.
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Bushie wrote “This whole episode of that child’s murder and the followup official and legal shenanigans in Barbados is a disgrace….”
The pain and suffering inflicted on that child before she died should have been enough to send her murderers to prison for life without parole.
That is my layman’s opinion.
I will keep my opinion of the Barbados Justice system to myself.
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The case is an example of the ‘mental disorder’ our justice system and country suffers. Where is the damn outrage!
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David May 6, 2015 at 10:26 AM #
The case is an example of the ‘mental disorder’ our justice system and country suffers. Where is the damn outrage!
the ‘mental disorder’ our justice system and country suffers has been going on for a long time………….perhaps that’s the reason for the lack of outrage
i have suffered personally too but why kick against the pricks?
i am not intelligent and i learned by rote but I KNOW RANTING AND RAVING AND SHEDDING TEARS ON BU WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING ah lie?
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hants wrote
The pain and suffering inflicted on that child before she died should have been enough to send her murderers to prison for life without parole.
The pain and suffering inflicted on THE PEOPLE OF BARBADOS BY FUMBLE AND THE DLP should be enough to send FUMBLE AND THE DLP to prison for life without parole. ah lie?
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We have to do something GP or the same outrage we are witnessing across the US will begin here. We believe it can’t happen here but as sure as John 3:16 it is possible.
On 6 May 2015 at 14:51, Barbados Underground wrote:
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The pain and suffering inflicted on that child before she died should have been enough to sentence her murderers to prison for life without parole…….Then they should be jailed in solitary confinement like Paul Bernardo.
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Now we are hearing the Courts of Barbados are being further compromised because there is a shortage of ink and paper.
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Bibliomancy
“I DID IT SO THAT NOW YOU CAN BE ADDED AS A WHIPPING BOY TO ME LOL LOL MURDAH”
How Christianity was introduced to Black Amerikkka (Part 2)
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Ebola a forgotten topic has now reemerged in the news as one Ebola survivor has been diagnosed with a re-occurrence of ebola found in his eye, this indeed is nerve wrecking for survivors and the hundreds of care workers who might have never shown signs of ebola but maybe carriers of this deadly disease lodging somewhere in their anatomy yet to be activated,. this should be of serious concern to the public since the survivor who is a doctor was pronounced as being cured of the disease when first treated and dismissed from the hospital,
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