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Benjamin Netanyahu  snubs President Obama
Benjamin Netanyahu snubs President Obama

This week’s unwelcome visit to Washington by Benjamin Netanyahu is the latest manifestation of deep-seated differences between the Obama administration and an Israeli government driven further and further to the right, at home, but more and more popular within the ranks of the love-hating, dispensationalists, WASP, Republican led, United States Senate and House of Representatives. These are occupied Israeli territories in the place called North America!

Nobody who has any sense, in the ‘international community’, likes Netanyahu. Whether it is Obama telling former French president Sarkozy, into a hot mic, that he did not like him. Or Obama himself complaining that he had to deal with him every day. Or the Europeans, countries like Switzerland, distancing themselves from the Zionist regime over settlement expansion while recognizing the Palestinian Authority, as a legitimate government, in international fora. Indications of how distasteful this maniac is.

To the Zionist tyrants, in Washington, it would not matter that there is an election in Israel around the 17th, of March 2015. It does not matter that in relations between states there is a tendency to avoid internal politics, showing a preference for one candidate over the others in an election period is generally a no-no. Inviting the leader of a political party and giving him a global platform is unheard of amongst decent people. But the stakes are high, so there is no time for the niceties of international relations. Netanyahu and Israel have been conning the world with the specter of the failure of that entity.  This time he may well have a point but the people of the world are no longer in love with the Zionist project and are ready to dis them. Only people like the money grabbing, election contribution greedy, pimps in Washington can be made an audience of. God is not on their side either, if He ever were.

That Netanyahu could be allowed to violate the most sacred protocols of diplomacy tells us, on the one hand, that the Christian Zionists amongst their ranks see it as the work of their dying god to side with Israel, whether right or wrong. On the other hand, that they see Obama as too impotent to cut off the legs of the Netanyahu government in the way political killers like Bill and Hilary Clinton would have. Even the Bushes! Netanyahu may be mad, but he ain’t foolish.

After-all they have carefully watched Obama for nearly seven years. They have him well measured. They are certain that his handling of this embarrassment will be no different than his red lines drawn to President Assad, of Syria. They have watched his avoidance of war in Ukraine. They will see him as a ‘sneaky fellow’ who likes low impact guerrilla wars using drones, terrorists and mercenaries. But when it comes to frontal aggression, he lacks the will, ability. That is how they think! In short, they see him as a toothless tiger. We are betting that the next purchased American president of a puppet will be an ignorant, gun toting, armchair war hawk, who will again, have to be brought to heel by some country in the South. Moreover, the Lobby (AIPAC) believes that Netanyahu has a more powerful economic-political base within the United States than Obama. Indeed, they may even want to further inspire the kind of chaos theory, within the United States, that Obama has allowed the rest of the world to degenerate into.
In short, we have a tail waging a dog! A dog that can bark, but has no bite!

What has AIPAC and the Zionists, of all stripes, so exercised, is the expectation that Obama will do a Nixon to China, this time with the Islamic Republic of Iran (IRI) over the nuclear issue and other interests. Iran has vast resources and some corporate interests can’t wait to do deals with the Iranians and are waiting for the lifting of sanctions, especially the Europeans.

Other forces have been milking the lie that the Iranian nuclear program has military dimensions, for nearly 25 years. A nuclear program started by the Americans with a then reluctant Shah, before the 1979 Islamic Revolution. It is Netanyahu, himself, who has been arguing all this time that the Iranians will have a nuclear weapon in less than a year, in less than six months. Twenty five years hence, he’s selling the same snake oil. Some forces are tired of this ignorance.

They have even gone to extreme measures to politicize the peaceful Iranian nuclear program, and to demonize the Iranians wherever they could. It is this Zionist lobby that has brought the world to imposing illegal and immoral sanctions against the Iranian nation, employing all aspects of state power. Their demonization of Iran extends beyond the nuclear file. It extends to the AMIA bombing in Argentina in the early 1990’s. A false flag operation to create conditions for war. These same Christian-Zionist forces are currently trying to prevent a proper investigation as agreed between the Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner government and the Islamic Republic. An investigation which is likely to reveal Israeli hands behind the killing of more than eighty Argentinian Jews. All of this to create the circumstances for a Western led war against the Iranian people.

America has always acted to destroy the perceived enemies of Israel.

The Zionist lobby and their Mossad, most times in cahoots with the intelligence agencies of the United States, tried to sabotage Iranian nuclear facilities with the Stuxnet virus, a few years ago. They plotted with Jundallah, an Iranian, anti-revolutionary group, to hand over fictitious nuclear engineering  documents on an alleged Iranian computer to the IAEA as evidence of weaponization. These are the same people who have created the confusion in the Middle East. Have destroyed Libya, Syria and Iraq. Partitioned Sudan. Invaded its neighbors and fought countless wars of aggression to make flesh of the greater Israel project. All done on the backs of the American tax payers. All in the name of a rapacious Christian-Zionism.

But Netanyahu maybe an evil man, but he is no fool. He can see the writing is on the wall. His Zionist state has been defeated in wars by Iran or its allies no less than six times. The specter of Israel as a military power has long changed. They cannot win against Hezbollah or Hamas. It was Hezbollah,  almost entirely supported by Iran, which ran them out of Lebanon in 2000 and again defeated them in the July 2006 war. Netanyahu is a former military man and he must reason if his country cannot defeat a small guerrilla group, then is it impossible to even dream of defeating the Islamic Republic? Their only option was to get the ignorant Americans to die for Israel, again. Obama is saying ‘no’ like he means it.

Our sources in Washington are telling us that Obama told Netanyahu that if he thought he could ensnare America into another war by attacking Iranian nuclear facilities that he (Obama) would shoot down the Israeli military jets. For the Iranians see no difference between an Israeli aggression on their territory and an American attack. The Iranians have promised to put the Middle East on fire and all of American interests. It is a Dark Ages phenomenon. And they have the means by which to do.

How contradictory is life? We have a man, Netanyahu, coming to the United States to abuse the Obama administration. A man who is wanted by the same American authorities, for questioning, for the thief of over 800 triggering devices for nuclear weapons. Devices to support an illegal Israeli military nuclear program as given to them by the Americans and the British. A program President Kennedy, the last genuine American president, was against. A program never inspected by the IAEA. A program which has up to 400 nuclear warhead. In a country which has a military doctrine called the ‘Sampson Option.’ They are saying to us, that if the state of Israel cannot continue in its wicked ways, they are prepared to destroy the whole world. There are no sanctions against them but a country (Iran) which has no nuclear weapons has several sets of sanctions. A country whose highest authority has fore-sworn nuclear weapons. A country which has issued a Fatwa against the military application of nuclear technology, has had crippling sanction for a decade or more.

The Iranians and their allies are the only genuine opponents to the Zionist projects. This is why Netanyahu wants Obama to destroy their enemies. They are too weak to themselves cast a dirty look at the Iranians. But the Iranians and their allies are not afraid of the Great Satan either. In fact, the Great Satan is afraid of the Iranians. You can’t beat them militarily so you try to defeat them through ‘negotiations’, same as for the Cuban Revolution. Through diplomacy. By drawing them into your economic sphere of influence. But they are yet to learn their own history. Then the history of the Persians. Not that bullshit about 300 Spartans!

Nobody anywhere is afraid of Israel anymore. They have long lost their perceived invincibility. Their patina of being divinely inspired has long gone. As this Zionist project is being ‘wiped from the pages of time’ we are to expect more and more reckless attempts to maintain itself. We should expect that Al-Aqsa Mosque is to be destroyed, as present attempts are galloping, at pace. We know the ignorant Christians will say, ‘for the second coming’. We say the only second coming associated with these people will be another Holocaust, this time in the very United States of American, that modern Jerusalem


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137 responses to “Benjamin Netanyahu – The End of the Zionist Project”

  1. HAMILTON A HILL Avatar
    HAMILTON A HILL

    @ Gabriel …… Your post of 6:26pm tells it all. Spot on if I may say so. The record that history presents paints a picture that religious zealots who post here cannot deny. Perhaps the light that Christianity shines upon this world does more than obscure the vision of the believers. It impairs their thought process. That’s why they have failed to recognize the fact that the Jews are so effing wicked. When the sacred state of Israel launched their bombs that slaughtered innocent little Palestinian children was that sanctioned by the good book? Please stop trying to cram your beliefs down the throats of others, for on that day of which you speak we will all be together. I WILL SOONER SEE A GHOST THAN A TRUE CHRISTIAN.


  2. @ Miller
    Contrary to popular opinion, the Bible does not MANDATE what will happen in the future, it merely foretells it….To a very large extent, “the future” is a direct result of the combined actions of mankind and the natural entropy of the universe.

    It is not really a very complex scenario if you can grasp the fact that the inspiration for the bible comes – not from those humans who were used to write it -but from beings who stand OUTSIDE of the constraint of time….in short, concepts such as “past, present, future” does not constrain them.

    In order to demonstrate that messages have indeed originated from super-human sources, these beings have deliberately provided ‘prophecies’ where they have told us the future in advance – something that human beings are unable to do normally.

    simple as that….

    There have always been fanatics who seem to think that if they can somehow precipitate, or at least conjure up, some of the prophecies, then the end would have followed….
    LOL
    Boss…..BBE is in no hurry. Time means a lot to US…but it don’t mean squat to BBE… In fact when the end becomes imminent, the bible says that the process will be accelerated, but only ….FOR THE ELECT’S SAKE.

    Bushie’s position is based on an intelligent look around our country and our world… not on any 2000 year-old prophesy….that is another story altogether.

    Go on Miller!! would you like to tell us of your rosy picture of a glowing future for this world …… apart from the inevitable radioactive glow that is….
    The best scientists and experts around the world are now saying practically the IDENTICAL things as GP and Zoe….

    @ GP
    You really should not allow yourself to be so easily riled up by Bushie… 🙂


  3. David,

    In the American system of government are not all the branches equal? God help Israel if America is suppose to be its strongest ally!


  4. for all of the skeptics who have doubts about end time prophecies, please listen to documentaries by persons like Johnathan Caan and the blood moon series by John Hagee will prove interesting viewing. there will come a time when vast armies including Iran will invade the land of ISRAEL with the intention of wiping them from the face of the earth as espoused by the Iranians, however the lord god almighty will completely destroy them, and by the way one of promises made to Abraham by GOD was that he would bless those who bless the JEWS and curse those who cursed them, food for thought,and we all know that GOD cannot lie for in that way he is not like man.


  5. Maybe Israel and BiBi already know that Saudi Arabia et al are on their side against Iran. Indeed, Iranians themselves dislike the “leadership” of Iran which is a theocratic dictatorship that citizens despise.

  6. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    HAMILTON A HILL March 3, 2015 at 9:09 PM #
    @ Gabriel …… Your post of 6:26pm tells it all. Spot on if I may say so. The record that history presents paints a picture that religious zealots who post here cannot deny.

    RE Perhaps the light that Christianity shines upon this world does more than obscure the vision of the believers. It impairs their thought process. That’s why they have failed to recognize the fact that the Jews are so effing wicked. When the sacred state of Israel launched their bombs that slaughtered innocent little Palestinian children was that sanctioned by the good book?

    ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY OR CHRISTENDOM? WHICH ?

    READ THE TEXT AND YOU WILL FIND THE ANSWERS SIR.

    AS I LIKE TO TELL MY STUDENTS “HIT IT AGAIN & COME BACK”

    RE Please stop trying to cram your beliefs down the throats of others,

    SHOULD PACH MAMA AND THE OTHER TWITS BE ALLOWED TO CRAM THEIR RAMBLINGS DOWN THE THROAT OF OTHERS?

    RE for on that day of which you speak we will all be together.

    YOUR IGNORANCE IS UNBOUNDED
    GO READ UP ON THE BEMA OR THE JUDGEMENT SEAT OF CHRIST & THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT

    RE I WILL SOONER SEE A GHOST THAN A TRUE CHRISTIAN.
    THIS IS THE STATEMENT OF A MORON
    BY DEFINITION A TRUE CHRISTIAN IS A GEM!

  7. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    BT
    RE @ GP
    You really should not allow yourself to be so easily riled up by Bushie…
    I ACTUALLY DONT GET RILED UP BUT SHORT PITCHED BOWLING MUST BE DISMISSED

    RE Ben Hur. March 3, 2015 at 9:30 PM #
    for all of the skeptics who have doubts about end time prophecies, please listen to documentaries by persons like Johnathan Caan and the blood moon series by John Hagee will prove interesting viewing.

    THE ANSWER IS TO SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES LIKE THE SAINTS AT BEREA TO SEE IF THE THINGS SPOKEN ARE TRUE OR NOT c.f ACTS 17

    RE there will come a time when vast armies including Iran will invade the land of ISRAEL with the intention of wiping them from the face of the earth as espoused by the Iranians, however the lord god almighty will completely destroy them, and by the way one of promises made to Abraham by GOD was that he would bless those who bless the JEWS and curse those who cursed them, food for thought,and we all know that GOD cannot lie for in that way he is not like man.
    YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF TWO IMPORTANT TEXTS


  8. @ GP
    I ACTUALLY DONT GET RILED UP BUT SHORT PITCHED BOWLING MUST BE DISMISSED
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    LOL….probably exactly what Phil Hughes said…
    Just make sure that your helmet is wukking hear…. cause bushie got a vicious ball dat does cut back from outside off….


  9. Bushie:
    I am actually shocked by your 5:14 pm post. It seems as if you have done more reading in the Good Book. Paul has an entire thesis on the whole concept of the Israel being a vine whose branches decided to take another direction and can now graft those who seek the true direction through Christ. Zoe and Georgie both know that. Without that mechanism NO ONE outside of the family blood line of Abraham could be saved, according to the promise which is fulfilled in Christ Jesus. If that is valid then those Jews who continue under the Torah and its ceremonies can not be justly referred to as the true followers of Christ. These are those people who now represent themselves as the true followers of God in present day Israel while holding on with all their might to ceremonies associated with the Sanctuary; ceremonies that have been fulfilled by the life and death of Christ. Christ did not come just to die on the Cross; he came to demonstrated that a man (this why Christ HAD to come in human form) could fulfill all the requirements of the Torah and he did it very successfully for over thirty years.

    What ZOE and Georgie are presenting here is the Left Behind Thesis which is taken from the Futurist Movement which was conceptualized and spearheaded by the Jesuit Order in the Roman Catholic Church. This thesis needs to have literal Jews returning to their home land and setting back up the Torah and its ceremonies in the to be rebuilt Sanctuary. The only thing that can be said about Israel today is that the New Jerusalem shall descend on Mount Zion as this is where man shall start again to rebuild this Earth. The very job that Adam forfeited when he sinned.


  10. Bushie:

    How could join with a man like Miller who believes that band of superior beings populated this earth and left it to mature. Hence, man on his quest has thought up various entities who he refer to as Gods. The picture Jupiter Rising attempts to validate this concept. Miller do not let me start!!

    There are times when I can solidly back Georgie and Zoe but there times when I can not. This is one of the times; I can not.


  11. @ Lemuel
    Wait bozie…. we very tight today… what happen?? you done cussing cock rat bushie now..?
    LOL …or you just looking for an ally against GP and Zoe…. ha ha
    …cause you done know um is only a matter of time (and some exegeses) before the two of them light into your donkey…. ha ha ha

    “How could (you) join with a man like Miller…..”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    LOL “a man like Miller….”? ha ha ha
    Boss, Bushie joins with no one when it comes to the serious business of whacking….Miller can believe whatever Miller wants to…. THAT has no bearing on the price of rice…

    Perhaps GP may wish to explain why he believes that just because some white people from Europe moved to Palestine in 1948 and said that they were “Jews” ….makes THEM the Jews / Israelis of the Bible …..

  12. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    RE What ZOE and Georgie are presenting here is the Left Behind Thesis which is taken from the Futurist Movement which was conceptualized and spearheaded by the Jesuit Order in the Roman Catholic Church.

    REALLY?? WHAT A LOAD OF COW’S WALLOP

    This thesis needs to have literal Jews returning to their home land and setting back up the Torah and its ceremonies in the to be rebuilt Sanctuary.

    HAVE YOU SERIOUSLY READ THE OT PROPHETS SIR?
    IF YOU HAVE NOT YOU CANT ARGUE SOUNDLY HERE

    RE The only thing that can be said about Israel today is that the New Jerusalem shall descend on Mount Zion as this is where man shall start again to rebuild this Earth. The very job that Adam forfeited when he sinned.

    DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
    DO YOU KNOW THAT PREPARATIONS ARE BEING MADE TO REBUILD THE TEMPLE?
    DO YOU KNOW THAT RED HEFFERS ARE BEING BRED IN ISRAEL
    DO YOU KNOW THAT EVERYTHING IS PROCEEDING AS WOULD BE EXPECTED

    HOW CAN ANTICHRIST CAUSE TH DAILY OFFERINGS TO CEASE UNLESS THEY ARE RESTARTED

  13. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    RE Paul has an entire thesis on the whole concept of the Israel being a vine whose branches decided to take another direction and can now graft those who seek the true direction through Christ. Zoe and Georgie both know that.

    RIGHTLY DIVIDED PAUL’S TEACHING IN ROMANS 9-11 DISCUSSES THAT GOD IS NOT FINISHED WITH THE JEWS. ITS CLEAR CLEAR. YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT HE WAS SAYING

    RE Without that mechanism NO ONE outside of the family blood line of Abraham could be saved, according to the promise which is fulfilled in Christ Jesus.

    ALL PEOPLE WHETHER JEW OR GENTILE ARE SAVED BY FAITH IN CHRIST

    OT SAINTS LOOKED FORWARD IN TYPE TO CHRIST’S DEATH
    ROMANS 4 SAYS ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD AND IT WAS IMPUTED TO HIM FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS

    SINCE THEN BELIEVERS LOOK BACKWARDS TO CHRIST’S DEATH

    RE If that is valid then those Jews who continue under the Torah and its ceremonies can not be justly referred to as the true followers of Christ.
    NO ONE HAS SAID THAT THE JEW IN ISRAEL ARE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST
    SERIOUS STUDENTS OF THE SCRIPTURE KNOW THAT THE JEWS IN ISRAEL ARE IN UNBELIEF. i HAVE BEEN AT PAINS TODAY TO STRESS THAT NETANAYU SHOULD TRUST GOD INSTEAD OF THE BACKING OF AMERICA

    RE These are those people who now represent themselves as the true followers of God in present day Israel while holding on with all their might to ceremonies associated with the Sanctuary; ceremonies that have been fulfilled by the life and death of Christ.

    JEWS DONT PROFESS TO BE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST

    RE Christ did not come just to die on the Cross; he came to demonstrated that a man (this why Christ HAD to come in human form) could fulfill all the requirements of the Torah and he did it very successfully for over thirty years.
    YOU ARE JUST SHOOTING WORDS HERE. WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE ISSUE?

    YOU ARE LEANING TO YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING
    YOU ARE NOT COMPARING SCRIPTURE WITH SCRIPTURE
    YOU HAVE NOT MASTERED THE MESSIANIC PSALMS OR EVEN THE SHORT MINOR PROPHETS FAR LESS DANIEL EZEKIEL ISAIAH & JEREMIAH

  14. St George's Dragon Avatar
    St George’s Dragon

    If Zoe and GP had been born in India, they would have been Hindus and believed that the Vedas were the word of God.
    If they had been born in China they would have been Buddhists and believed that the Tripitaka was the sacred text.
    If it was Bangladesh they would have been Muslim and thought the Koran was the word of God.
    By an accident of fate, they were born in Barbados and therefore brought up as Christians.
    Why does this accident make the Bible “truer” than the other major religion’s texts?

  15. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    SOME ONE IS LEANING TO THEIR OWN UNDERSTANDING

    THEY HAD THE GOSPEL IN INDIA ETC LONG BEFORE BARBADOS WA COLONISED ah lie?


  16. This is a strange post. In a way it’s nice to see GP and Zoe taking over the standard stuff by their own brand and crowding out – especially fellas like Hamilton H and Pacha still incorrigibly spewing hatred against the Jews. I don’t share their end-times thesis no matter its source but respect their standfast in respect of Israel. If what’s his name…Hanoman….can petition against partition perhaps its time to form a ‘Friends of Israel’ – for it’s time the other side was represented.

    David

    One of your posts above seems even-handed. But let me ask – why should the fact of an Israel election rule out anything? From one perspective the man should be at home canvassing. It’s better for sure than playing golf.

    DeeWord

    A word about substance in face of your kind words which I do assure you are taken in the way intended.

    Now – as usual DeeWord in your race to ramble you don’t read carefully. I was NOT merely talking about politicians lying. I suppose they all do that. In other words, it’s not about a lie count of the ‘my Dad’s bigger than your Dad’ category. I’m actually talking about someone whom I regard – even from the roof tops if you will – as being ‘the lie’ itself in the sense that Scott Peck talks about ‘people of the lie’. You miss the point because you fasten on part and ignore the whole of what I wrote. Do you remember me warning you about this? You may reject this thesis but don’t attempt to rubbish it from the vantage of the simpleton.

    On Bush, your ‘bigger than’ case.

    I quite accept that it’s possible that Bush may have lied about Iraq’s capacity – and this especially so if you read and swallow all the standard stuff and happen to have a certain mindset, say, if you’re a Democrat, or a ‘leftie’ (how I hate that term), or a ‘liberal’ (ditto) or Pacha (PBUH) rather than a ‘conservative’ (ditto), or – get this – a “gadfly”.

    We can certainly accept the view that he was wrong and that he misrepresented the position – for that IS fact.

    But whether he “lied” raises different considerations. One is the feature that after 9/11, rather like ‘after Pearl Harbour’, poor Bush was confronted by a world which had apparently changed at its core. I don’t envy him. The ‘war on terror’ was an apt phrase and we all know that it’s like the ‘battle of the trees’ which in stark reality never ends. It is a battle which it was wrongly thought could be won – and that one way of doing it was to ‘take out’ Saddam and, for that matter, other autocrats – a policy and mindset which was misconceived and short-sighted though otherwise shared.

    Now, equally, we all know that the Bush approach, though wrong, was reliance-based – or is said to have been – and if you’re a Republican or a ‘conservative’ or even a “gadfly” that’s the line you will take.

    Which is right? I don’t know and you don’t know – so at this point we have a difference of perception which may or may not be rooted in fact. In other words, gentle DeeWord, don’t present speculation as fact – one of your other failings I think I warned you about.

    I suppose one way of sorting out the dilemma is by asking ‘If Bush lied, what was his objective and did it succeed?’ Well, whatever it was, did it? And if it failed, why did it fail?


  17. Ross I must admit that your piece has gone way over my head this time.

    ” ..it’s not about a lie count of the ‘my Dad’s bigger than your Dad’ category. I’m actually talking about someone whom I regard … as being ‘the lie’ ….

    “I quite accept that it’s possible that Bush may have lied about Iraq’s capacity… But whether he “lied” raises different considerations…”

    You certainly have a firm grasp on the point you are making but I absolutely do not.

    I am completely discombobulated. But you have long presaged that as par for my course, so nothing new on that front.

    I do however appreciate the seemingly collegial tone of the discourse.

    And your references as usual display a wide and varied reading list.

    Until next time.


  18. @GP, Zoe,Lemuel and the other learned theologians here gathered can you lady and gents explain to this one not studied in the pages of theology a few things coming out of the various comments that highlight age old queries?

    Zoe said: RE there will come a time when vast armies including Iran will invade the land of ISRAEL … however the lord god almighty will completely destroy them, and by the way one of promises made to Abraham by GOD was that he would bless those who bless the JEWS and curse those who cursed them, food for thought,and we all know that GOD cannot lie for in that way he is not like man.

    and GP responded: YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF TWO IMPORTANT TEXTS

    Bushie remarked: Perhaps GP may wish to explain why he believes that just because some white people … said that they were “Jews” ….makes THEM the Jews / Israelis of the Bible …

    GP also said: NO ONE HAS SAID THAT THE JEW IN ISRAEL ARE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST…SERIOUS STUDENTS OF THE SCRIPTURE KNOW THAT THE JEWS IN ISRAEL ARE IN UNBELIEF.

    So with those said, why is it that the entire treatise of a Christian life has anointed a special group that are blessed to receive milk and honey to the disadvantage of all others?

    It is written ” Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard?” and that we can ALL receive salvation through faith in God.

    Then why is the story of Christ a story of one group of people and their ascendant place on earth?

    If we are all worthy why does the righteous Father have this favored son?

    Not so much why was the Christ child scribed as born Jewish but why was the story of life everlasting and faith scribed as it is?

    Basically, Religion 101 questions.

    I am hopeful the level of scholarly discourse and teaching here would allow my simpleton queries.


  19. @DeeWord

    The bible must be fulfilled, it is that simple.

  20. Easy Squeeze (make no riot) Avatar
    Easy Squeeze (make no riot)

    Zoe and GP (who are like 2 lovers in one spirit) iare referring about a hate of Jews when it is not true and also referring to wrong Jews. They are like kids in class who say they are better than everyone else when teacher has left the room.

    If you want a Bible reading
    try
    Matthew 5:9 or 5:5 and go out to play children


  21. So David it is a matter of faith and that is it.

    The good book was written by man as dictated by the Almighty and it is what it is?

    Ok.

    I don’t see what harm there is then in a clarification of the queries.

    We know we are destined to die but we still try to balance and over’stand matters while we have breath,


  22. @DeeWord

    We have had this discussion on BU several times with GP. Zoe and other Christians concerning how Christians see this issue. Just pressing fast forward.


  23. Understood. The questions/discussions is as old as the bible itself.

    Maybe I will just troll your archives then if they have pontificated on the questions previously,

    Was being a bit lazy.


  24. @DeeWord

    Not suggesting you do so, just moving the discussion along.The exchanges must recognize new players to BU.

    On 4 March 2015 at 10:09, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >


  25. It is obvious this address by Netanyahu was a political stunt on his part with a general election looming. It is clear that trying to prevent Iran from pursuing a nuclear program is an impossible task. What is the solution, nuke them like many Republicans are suggesting? Like Bush Tea opines this is a messed up world.Imaging a leading congressman Peter King stating that Israel is US’ staunch ally in the ME. Which country is responsible for dishing out the most military aid to Israel?


  26. so the question still remain / Who are the Jews of the Bible? genealogical evedience have said differently , then why are the scribes and modern Day Pharisees still adamant of pushing and ignoring such a fact,
    Yes this war will escalate from a perspective that Muslim and Christian are divided not so much of Biblical literature but because of the elephant in the room who stands their as a fictitious character and misrepresentation of Who the Real jews are.

    http://www.timbooktu.com/horton/misrep.htm


  27. You guys are right …the world would be a much better place if the middle eastern muslims were in charge of the nuclear weapons rather than the jews, wasps or christians

  28. Hamilton Hill Avatar

    Jews. ..The single most wicked bitches on the face of the earth. GP…The anointed one. Appointed by the father to regulate the affairs of consenting adults, unless they are priests, who by the way love little boys. Again I say that on that day we shall all sit together.


  29. Ross:

    It is sad when I have to agree with you, but I thought I was the ONLY one who recognized that DeeWord reads but does not understand and then he proceeds to spew his misunderstanding all over the blog. Apparently he is bolstered by that one Bushie who describes him as a heavy weight “intellect”. The only true thing he said in his reply is that your post had gone all over his head. True to form he shall respond by saying he was being ironic!!!


  30. ZOE and Georgie:

    I am not getting into a shouting match here but listen to the books of Galatians and Romans without reference to a bible commentary. Listen to Paul’s argument; remember he was one of the most devout Pharasees; of all the disciples Paul fully understood the Sanctuary and the role of Christ. Killing and burning fat in Jerusalem shall not bring back God; he left after the pleadings of the prophets fell on deaf ears. There is no more returning of the literal Kingdoms of Judah and Israel.

    Bushie:

    I do not any part of your protection; I can do that all by my good self, thank you.

    Have to go fellas; see you later.

  31. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ St George’s Dragon March 4, 2015 at 12:19 AM
    “If Zoe and GP had been born in India, they would have been Hindus and believed that the Vedas were the word of God.
    If they had been born in China they would have been Buddhists and believed that the Tripitaka was the sacred text.
    If it was Bangladesh they would have been Muslim and thought the Koran was the word of God.
    By an accident of fate, they were born in Barbados and therefore brought up as Christians.
    Why does this accident make the Bible “truer” than the other major religion’s texts?”

    SGD, you have just slain the dragon of nonsense that breathes fire of religious intolerance and feeds upon the jingoistic ignorance of the religiously myopic.

    When the likes of Zoe , GP, Lemuel and, most disappointingly, Bush Tea begin to incorporate these other religions practised by the other populations that make up the majority human beings on this little orb then we can engage in meaningful ‘ecumenical’ discussions about the role of religion, faith and spirituality in the life of human beings.

    Its time you guys wise up to the fact that the world does not revolve around the literary relics of some mythically contrived and plagiarised Abrahamic faith.
    There were religions long before the mythical character Abraham came along (ask Melchizedek if you are in doubt);. and there will be others in the future as long as mankind continues to see the need for a god from the Sky.

    Maybe another alien contact would get rid of these old desert gods and be replaced with one of technology provided it’s not of the Borg. The Internet seems to be the first large step in this god replacement venture.


  32. Miller:

    Lord have mercy! These truths are too profound!


  33. whether they were other religions before is a mute point.Christains could not care one way or another.the underlining focus of this issue is a differing point of view between muslim jews and the teaching of bibilcal prophesy .
    A controversial issue that the land on which the jews dwell was ordained by God and the jews who now dwell on it are the rightful owners everything else only overshadows but does not deal with ownership


  34. @Lawson

    We should all understand that Froon should be in charge of all Nukes—-he will never make any decision with regards using them! lol

    Actually give control of the Nukes to “leaders” in Africa like the Central African Republic or Zaire, they would quickly stop any debate via ANNIHILIATION!


  35. @Hamie Hill wrote

    Jews. ..The single most wicked bitches on the face of the earth.

    When did you have the lobotomy??????????

    People like you always hate what you are incapable of understanding. Jews have produced more Nobel Prize WINNERS than any other single group of people relative to their proportion of population.

    Jews are supposedly God’s chosen, so you are saying that God is the DEVIL.

    Jews have suffered many holocausts and so have Africans in slave days, so Africans should be learning from the strategy of Jews to better themselves, if not why not?

  36. Easy Squeeze (make no riot) Avatar
    Easy Squeeze (make no riot)

    “Jews have suffered many holocausts and so have Africans in slave days, so Africans should be learning from the strategy of Jews to better themselves, if not why not?”

    Forward-looking companies invest in responsive administrative projections.


  37. David

    You must understand that the Zoe/GP axis, though I respect it, is only one strand of ‘Christianity’….I think we’d have to say the ‘wahhabi’ strand.

    Lemuel

    Not clear why you’re “sad to say”. Did we quarrel?

    But yes, your last two sentences to me are spot on.

    Anyone

    I am very serious about a ‘Friends of Israel’.


  38. @ Lemuel March 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM #… I thought I was the ONLY one who recognized that DeeWord reads but does not understand… The only true thing he said in his reply is that your post had gone all over his head. True to form he shall respond by saying he was being ironic!!!==============

    Again thanks for the interface. I would prefer if we debate positively rather than your unnecessary pull-down of my remarks.

    There was no irony, sarcasm or double-talk in my comments.

    Ross has an inherent ‘lawyerly’ way of argumentation that leaves me bamboozled often. I have discussed this with him previously.

    This was one of these cyclical, intellectual things to defend what I thought was a perplexing position

    To wit: ” ..it’s not about a lie count of the ‘my Dad’s bigger than your Dad’ category. I’m actually talking about someone whom I regard … as being ‘the lie’ ….“I quite accept that it’s possible that Bush may have lied about Iraq’s capacity… But whether he “lied” raises different considerations…”

    A sort of “he (Bush) may have lied before he possibly didn’t lie but this guy (Obama) is worst because he is a liar incarnate” type of cloud.

    I can recognize that the man is well read and thus intellectually strong. It does not mean however that he speaks with any degree of absolute truth nor that his screeds are always logical.

    It was over my head. And frankly still is because my own interpretation makes no sense to me.

    Thus, I was done wid that.

    Why you would find that confounding, untrue or otherwise is unknown to me.

    And BTW, no one here, and definitely not Bushie, has suggested I am any ‘heavy weight intellectual’. I believe some people accept my clarity (at times) but in the main I get the ups and downs as everyone else.

  39. Easy Squeeze (make no riot) Avatar
    Easy Squeeze (make no riot)

    I am very serious about a ‘Friends of Israel’

    Try ‘Friends of Palestine and Israel’ they are everywhere (except Government, Army, Mossad, Spies, News Media)


  40. DeeWord

    LOL…. what a pompous, self-justifying, delusional wanker you are. Mind, I think I’m becoming fond of you….errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


  41. Easy Squeeze

    Taking your remark at its face value, you do have a point. I prefer it to the ‘Alliance of Christians and Jews’.

  42. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    RE David March 4, 2015 at 6:44 AM #
    It is obvious this address by Netanyahu was a political stunt on his part with a general election looming. It is clear that trying to prevent Iran from pursuing a nuclear program is an impossible task. What is the solution, nuke them like many Republicans are suggesting?

    This is just the opinion of many but it is not necessarily so. The man cares about his country but has no faith in the God of the Bible who has brought his people back to the land promised to them by God to Abraham in Genesis 13 etc Netanyahu should not go cap in hand to the USA. The God of heaven is stronger than the USA- which is clearly in decline just like the Babylonians, Medes & Persians, Greeks Romans Europe etc before them
    Instead Netanyahu should PRAY
    I laugh at all the fear around the world. MANKIND MAY HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO DESTROY THE WORLD BUT HE DOES NOT HAVE THE PERMISSION.
    The world that was, was destroyed by God by the waters of the flood
    2 Peter 3: 5-7 clearly teaches that THE WORLD THAT IS< WILL B DESTROYED BY GOD BY FIRE! NOT BY IRAN.

    5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
    6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
    7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

    Re David March 4, 2015 at 6:18 AM #
    Theexchanges must recognize new players to BU.

    WHAT DO THESE NEW PLAYERS HAVE TO SAY? HOW WILL THEY ADD TO THE PLAN OF GOD WHICH IS CLEARLY UNFOLDING BEFOR OUR EYES
    I WILL ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF DEEWORD LATER

    RE David March 4, 2015 at 5:53 AM #
    @DeeWord
    We have had this discussion on BU several times with GP. Zoe and other Christians concerning how Christians see this issue. Just pressing fast forward.
    Zoe and I have put forward the VIEW ESPOUSED BY THE BIBLE BY COMPARING SCRIPTURE WITH SCRIPTURE.
    THE ONLY FAST FORWARD HERE IS THAT THESE THINGS ARE COMING TO PASS…….AND FAST!!!!.
    EVERY NOW AND AGAIN AN EVENT PRESENTS ITSELF THAT TAKES US BACK TO THE SAME POINT SIMPLY BECAUSE THE PROMISES OF THE ESCHATON ARE BEING FULFILLED BEFORE OUR VERY EYES..
    THE UBIQUITOUS USE OF COMPUTERS, BAR CODING AND NOW MICROCHIPPING AND THE IMMINENT MOVE TO A CAH LESS SOCIETY AS BEING IMPLEMENTED FOR EXAMPLE IN UGANDA AND ZIMBABWE AND OTHER PLACES AND SOON IN THE USA ALONG WITH COMPULSORY NATIONAL IDENTIFICATION CARDS SPEAK FOR EXAMPLE AS A PREPARATION FOR HOW THE MARK OF THE BEAST WILL BE IMPLEMENTED AND POLICED.

    ONE MORONIC SCOFFER ASKED LAST NIGHT IN HIS STUPIDITY HOW IS THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT TO THE PAST WHEN JOKERS CLAIMED JESUS WAS COMING THEN.

    IT IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT OBSERVED THE ‘”when’S & then’S “ IN THE OLIVET DISCOURSE. SIMPLE!

  43. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    Re DeeWord March 4, 2015 at 5:41 AM #
    So David it is a matter of faith and that is it. ABSOLUTELY!

    The good book was written by man as dictated by the Almighty and it is what it is?
    ABSOLUTELY!
    This is what the Bible teaches about the origin of the Bible
    Firstly, 1 Peter 1: 20-21
    20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
    21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

    Secondly 2 Timothy 3:16-17
    16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
    17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

    RE I don’t see what harm there is then in a clarification of the queries.
    We know we are destined to die but we still try to balance and over’stand matters while we have breath,

    AGREED I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. JUST GETTING UP

  44. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    DeeWord March 4, 2015 at 4:18 AM #
    @GP, Zoe,Lemuel and the other learned theologians here gathered can you lady and gents explain to this one not studied in the pages of theology a few things coming out of the various comments that highlight age old queries?
    Understood. The questions/discussions is as old as the bible itself.
    Maybe I will just troll your archives then if they have pontificated on the questions previously,
    Was being a bit lazy.
    DeeWord March 4, 2015 at 6:09 AM #
    RE Lemuel said: there will come a time when vast armies including Iran will invade the land of ISRAEL … however the lord god almighty will completely destroy them
    These are promises made in Ezekiel and shown/predicted to be fulfilled in Revelationn
    Re , and by the way one of promises made to Abraham by GOD was that he would bless those who bless the JEWS and curse those who cursed them, food for thought,and we all know that GOD cannot lie for in that way he is not like man.
    These are promises made in Genesis 12 I think as part of the Abrahamic Covenant, which is central to an understanding of the fracas in the Middle East
    and GP responded: YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF TWO IMPORTANT TEXTS
    because as I said above the Abrahamic Covenant, which is central to an understanding of the fracas in the Middle East
    In the Abrahamic Covenant, God chose a man to start a nation and promised him a land see Genesis 13
    14 And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:
    15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
    16 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered.
    17 Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it unto thee.
    And genesis 15
    18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
    19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,
    20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,
    21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.

    Bushie remarked: Perhaps GP may wish to explain why he believes that just because some white people … said that they were “Jews” ….makes THEM the Jews / Israelis of the Bible
    Bushie is basically a Bible illiterate and a seed picker who does not know that first the Jewish people were conquered first by the Assyrians and the Babylonians. Under Ezra, Zerrubbabel and Nehemiah about 20% of these folk returned to Israel, and became the Jews of Jesus day.
    These folk were again dispersed in keeping with a prediction in Deuteronomy after the Roman Titus sacked Jerusalem in 70 AD.
    Thus the prophesy of Hosea 3 was fulfilled
    4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim:
    5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.
    “the latter days” in verse 5 above refers to the days after Armageddon- the period which is often discussed in the OT and called the Millennium because of the words used in Revelation 20.

    The second part of verse 5 about seeking their God etc is not yet fulfilled………so GP also said: NO ONE HAS SAID THAT THE JEW IN ISRAEL ARE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST…SERIOUS STUDENTS OF THE SCRIPTURE KNOW THAT THE JEWS IN ISRAEL ARE IN UNBELIEF.
    GP SAID THIS BECAUSE THIS IS TRUE.
    THE JEWS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A STIFF NECKED PEOPLE AND UNBELIEVING EVEN WHILE THEY WERE IN THE LAND BEFORE THE TWO INVASIONS AND THE SAKING OF ROME
    Re So with those said, why is it that the entire treatise of a Christian life has anointed a special group that are blessed to receive milk and honey to the disadvantage of all others?
    The entire treatise of a Christian life does not revolve around the JEWS but around JESUS.
    The entire treatise of a Christian life has NOT anointed a special group that are blessed. Believers acknowledge God’s sovereign right to chose whom he would as his “people”. Believers know also that NT Christians are also chosen and are also chosen by God as taught in passages like 1 Peter 2, and John 6 and 10 inter alia

    It is written ” Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard?” This quotation from Galatians is irrelevant to this discussion. It relates to the Galatian believers seeking to live by faith but yet holding on to the law, which was given only to lead them to Christ as taught in Galatians 3
    22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
    23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
    24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
    25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
    26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

    Then why is the story of Christ a story of one group of people and their ascendant place on earth?
    the story of Christ is NOT a story of one group of people and their ascendant place on earth.
    The story of Christ can be summarized as
    HIS VIRGIN BIRTH
    HIS VIRTUOUS LIFE
    HIS VACARIOUS SUFFERING
    HIS VICTORIOUS RESURRCTION
    HIS VINDICATIVE ASCENSION
    HIS VITAL SESSION
    HIS VISIBLE RETURN
    If we are all worthy why does the righteous Father have this favored son?
    CHRIST IS THE FATHER’s FAVORITE SON AND SO AR ALL THOSE WHO ARE ALL THOSE BELIEVERS WHO ARE JOINT HEIRS WITH CHRIST as taught in ROMANS 8

    Not so much why was the Christ child scribed as born Jewish but why was the story of life everlasting and faith scribed as it is?

    ASK THE LORD GOD WHEN YOU SEE HIM
    ARE WE TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING?
    Basically, Religion 101 questions.
    Re I am hopeful the level of scholarly discourse and teaching here would allow my simpleton queries.

    I HOPE THAT I HAVE ANSWERED SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS

    NOW SIT BACK AND WATCH THE SEED PICKER TRY TO CONTRADICT WHAT I HAVE SAID
    IT WILL BE HILARIOUS


  45. Chosen People. Chosen to be exonerated for breaking cease fire after cease fire so as to engage in numerous sorties. Hundreds of innocent children and old people died. Jews. .the single most wicked bitches upon the face of this earth.


  46. @ Hamilton Hill

    You can’t know how right you are. Regardless of which metric we use we can find people who call themselves Jews involved in the worst of crimes. Starting with the African slave trade and the Jew, Christopher Columbus. To the trafficking in stolen human organs for sale on the parallel markets. To the trade in blood diamonds. We can go on and on.

    HH, this is because they believe that they have many more ‘blessings’ from god ( or mitvahs) than anybody else, especially Black people, who in their way of thinking have the fewest, or anybody else of colour. Thus is the mind that wrote the very bible. A book written to give Jews power over non-Jews or gentiles.

    What is wrong with the people who have never lived with Jews, and are not used to their theory and praxis, is that they rely on the propaganda from the bible. These people, even our friend Bushie, would not know that he could not even touch a Jewish Holy Man, a Rabbi, for example!


  47. Or in a Jewish restaurant only the Rabbi to turn on the stove. And the meanings of these things.


  48. @Hammie

    Jews are the single most CLEVEREST bitches on the face of the Earth so it follows that since ALL HUMAN sub groups are WICKED, then the Jews would be better at it than others when NEED be.

    Dont forget that the Jews, Arabs, Palestinians and the ME in general are family, descended from Abraham. After 5000+ years of fighting do you really think that the NON Jews are in no way culpable? JOKER! lol

    All is fair in love and War! Never thought I would ever hear anyone with an IQ above 100 suggest that Arabs don’t lie, don’t take advantage, didn’t ENSLAVE the Jews.

    Why would descendants of Slaves and holocaust victims NOT have the capacity to comprehend the Jewish situation?


  49. @Pach and Hammie

    The Arab Muslims did NOT enslave East Africans????????????????

    The Arab Muslims are still enslaving Black people in Sudan right NOW!

    Which Black people pun here or anywhere are doing everything they possibly can to put a STOP to that?

  50. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    MY BIBLE TEACHES THUS
    ROMANS 1 THE GENTILES HAVE SINNED
    ROMANS 2 THE JEWS HAVE SINNED
    ROMANS 3 THE OBVIOUS CONCLUSION=> ALL HAVE SINNED!

    NIGGERS SIN TOO ah lie?

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