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According to our Nation daily, there has been some confusion on the start of the sugar cane reaping season, with farmers unaware of the schedule set by the authorities.

However, the Government has indicated its intent to invest taxpayer dollars heavily into a new sugar processing plant, costing hundreds of millions.

Does it seem logical, that a Government so intent on splurging taxpayer dollars, cannot even manage a sugar cane reaping schedule and that there is so much confusion between government and farmers?

Does the right hand know what the left hand is doing?

Do they even care?

Or is intent only to spend taxpayer dollars on a failing industry? To the benefit of, not the farmers, not the taxpayers, but those who are contracted to build the plant, take their profits and walk away?

Leaving taxpayers to repay a huge loan and farmers no better off?


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170 responses to “Another Sweet Fiasco?”


  1. David
    The new ‘multi-purpose’ factory are Andrews will earn more money from the co-generation of electricity than from the sale of all of the sugar and its by-products. In essence all the new factory does is allow the GOB to create electricity, sell it to light and power at sufficient profit to run all of the factories operations and remove the Treasury from having to subsidise the BAMC to the turn of $80 MILIION DOLLARS each and every year.


  2. The Minister of Agriculture is quoted at a recent constituency meeting, asking the question “Am I half -a -clown?”, in relation to exporting Barbados sugar to Europe.
    Please sir, do not ,and never , sell yourself short……You are a full -fledged Clown, ask the whole of Barbados.
    Imagine he is telling us of the construction of a Super Factory construction of which is scheduled to start in June 2015, and in today’s news we hear Patrick Bethel lamenting that the sugar cane farmers are owned millions of dollars from the last sugar harvest, and they have no money to reap the canes this year. We also read that the Government owed millions to the owners of two plantations in St John which were leased and are now being auctioned off.
    But to add insult to injury, we also learn that four very productive plantations in the Andrews Sugar Factory catchment area, namely ,Fisherpond, Andrews Plantation, Blackmans and Easy Hall, have recently laid off some 20 plantation workers, and more may follow.
    And this Clown has the affront to used the word “I,I,I” , as if he is the sole overlord and chief mechanic of the Sugar Industry.
    Barbados has been systematically destroyed by a lot of Industrial, cultural and Community Terrorists,masquerading as political leaders.


  3. Grace Fuller January 28, 2015 at 11:34 AM #

    David
    The new ‘multi-purpose’ factory are Andrews will earn more money from the co-generation of electricity than from the sale of all of the sugar and its by-products.
    …………………………………………………………………………………………..
    So is this super factory going to work all year round, or only the few weeks it will take to harvest all the cane on the island.


  4. islandgal246 January 28, 2015 at 9:21 AM #

    ….Our flour will further constipate us with the cement dust in it.
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………
    I understand that the local bakeries have no problem there.The flour will be ideal for making Rock Cakes.


  5. @ Bush Tea,
    I am amazed that Barbados does not see a future in the production and the manufacture of sea island cotton.

    John Smedley, is a UK company that has been established for well over 200 years! It uses sea island cotton. Sea island is superior to all other cottons and is synonymous with luxury.

    http://www.johnsmedley.com/uk/mens/view-all?material=55
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/19feb310-ef00-11e2-bb27-00144feabdc0.html


  6. What about coconut water. Its now been marketed as the next big thing!

    Our Rihanna is promoting it.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/rihanna-rocks-red-hair-flashes-5045338

    http://vitacoco.com/uk/our-story/


  7. @ GP
    Do you think that Bushie will be interested in arguing with a doctor about the merits or otherwise of sugar – whether from sugar cane or corn?
    Doctors have most of their business because people follow bad habits that compromise their bodies and then require medical interventions…. a BOOM for doctors.

    Wuh shiite fella, if Bushie was a doctor with an expensive Benz to maintain, then the bushman may even GIVE AWAY sugar to all and sundry…

    In a recent lecture at the Frank Collymore Hall, a lady researcher who knows more about it than you do, explained that there is a DIRECT correlation between the consumption of sugar and obesity and diabetes.
    In fact she gave the example of the situation during the war when sugar was restricted, where levels of diabetes and obesity fell dramatically ….only to resume when the war ended and sweetness returned.

    As to HFCS, …cheap and ubiquitous, makes it more dangerous because it manages to get itself into almost every shiite in huge quantities, making overdose almost inevitable.

    Poison is all about quantities as you well know GP. even water can be poisonous in high enough doses, and some persons highly recommend things like cyanide and and other known poisons in trace amounts for various benefits.

    wuh boss …look how fluoride, a known, dangerous poison, is DELIBERATELY put into our water, toothpaste etc on the proven-FALSE claim that it somehow reduces cavities….!!

    You could sing all the praises you like of sugar and HFCS. Bushie will be a minimal user …cause your doctor friends ain’t getting their hands on the little Bush-cash that easily…. wunna think wunna in de lawyer business or wuh…?


  8. Exclaimer.
    One agronomist who worked for the Government and was in charge of cotton production, became so frustrated, that he packed up and is now in New York teaching. The guy was no air-conditioned office worker, everyday he used to don overalls and was out in the fields. Cotton production has lost a stalwart.
    But farmers have become so frustrated these days that many are planting what is referred to in some quarters as “Cash Crops”. Can you imaging many plantations now planting field of Pigeon Peas, which are hand picked for local consumption only. Pigeon peas are not something that can be used as a stand alone meal. And to compound the issue,all of the supermarkets in Barbados shelves are fully stocked with various brands of Pigeon Peas from the region and else where, and being retailed at a far lesser price that what is paid for ‘fresh’ pigeon peas.
    As far as processing coconut water, do not think that the sole local bottling plant, BBC, has not got their eyes on it. But at present , we do not have any coconut plantations as such. The trees are spread all over the place, and in some remote places, making the harvesting of coconuts, as far as labour is concerned,an expensive venture.


  9. Buggy
    I understand that the co-gen plant will work and produce electricity year round. During the harvest season the co-gen plant will have the added bio-mass from the bagasse not used to fire the boilers.


  10. @ Grace Fuller
    The new ‘multi-purpose’ factory are Andrews will earn more money from the co-generation of electricity than from the sale of all of the sugar and its by-products.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Ha ha ha ha
    Steupss
    You probably believed that Four Seasons would have been opened in 2011 too …right?
    …and that the VAT increase would have been temporary….?
    …and that the Japanese was bringing money for us to recover energy from waves…?

    LOOK Grace…. You think the people at EMERA are idiots?
    you think that they will just sit by and facilitate such a coup for government?
    If this was the plan for sugar why the hell did NIS sell their shares in BL&P rather than invest MORE….?

    Are you aware that Portvale attempted to sell electricity to BL&P some years ago?…and that after BL&P robbed them blind for a while ..they got wise and cut their losses…?

    Bunch of JAs can’t even keep a tourist belt clean…. and think they can cut in on the business BROUGHT AND PAID FOR by an international pirate like EMERA?
    …a simple lawsuit in a Canadian court and all that money down the drain…

    Fools and their money are SO easily separated…


  11. Bush Tea
    the GOB and Light and Power have already signed the power purchase agreement for the electricity. Emera will make a margin on the pass thru to the grid with having to put up cent one for the additional energy capacity. This is a very good deal for Emera and they know it.


  12. WITHOUT having to put up cent one for the additional capacity.


  13. I would like to know more about the 10,000 ft deep geothermal well and how it produces electricity, anyone know?


  14. @ Exclaimer
    The problem is NOT the viability of the project.
    It is the BRASS BOWL IDIOTS at the steering wheel, as well as those jackasses and yard fowls sharing the fatted calf….

    Those cvnts could not organize a successful piss-off up at the new Banks factory without incurring unsustainable cost over-runs,legal fees, consultant fees and plain missing funds.

    …and the Auditor General would simple cut and paste the same shiite comments that he has been making year after year after year…

    All the while, Caswell playing the ass…..

    Steupsss…


  15. Round and round the mulberry bush we go……….is that you Bush Tea?


  16. Vincent, are you still drinking so much these days and nites?


  17. @ Grace Fuller
    Listen Boss…
    All EMERA is interested in is EXTRACTING profits.
    By signing such an agreement, it means that they will now have a legitimate excuse NOT to invest in new generating plant in Barbados ….something that is LONG OVERDUE.

    EMERA done know that this cane thing is bare shiite, so by not having to spend $200m on new plant to maintain the existing quality of service, they can continue to milk us until the shit INEVITABLY hits the fan (when the old generation plant finally dies)
    …then they will simply say “well YOUR GOVERNMENT said they would have 60 MW available so we couldn’t very well go ahead with OUR generation…..could we???
    ..oh dear…. so sorry.. (while deading with laugh back in Canada…)

    Now ..if you want US to solve your power problems, here is what it will cost you….
    …or you can always wait for the Government plant to done…..ha ha ha

    There MUST be shit where some people’s brains are supposed to be….


  18. @ Bushie
    You forgot to mention the hundreds of acres of the so called hard-as-rock Fuel Canes which many plantations had went ahead and planted on the advice of the politicians and so-called experts, only to have these canes standing in the fields a couple of years, taking up precious space, and eventually being bulldozed into the earth.
    http://imgur.com/gMJqeAn


  19. Bushie

    Ye of little faith.


  20. Bush Tea January 28, 2015 at 12:37 PM #

    @ Grace Fuller
    Listen Boss…
    All EMERA is interested in is EXTRACTING profits.
    By signing such an agreement, it means that they will now have a legitimate excuse NOT to invest in new generating plant in Barbados ….something that is LONG OVERDUE.
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………
    Or renew the engines at Spring Garden, something long overdue. When they reach this bend in the river, they will not cross over , but will sell out to another like type.The Barbados Government will have to pay the Ferryman.


  21. Grace Fuller January 28, 2015 at 12:33 PM #

    Vincent, are you still drinking so much these days and nites?
    ……………………………………………………..

    My old drinking buddy,since you get higher up and better off,drinking black and blue these days,I hope you remember your liver problems and the diabetes……..good to hear you are still alive and have beaten the odds.


  22. @ Grace
    Ye of little faith
    ++++++++++++++
    Actually of NO faith…

    …in proven bribe-taking, inept, shiite-hounds, who have turned out to be nothing but DISGRACES to our hard-working, resourceful, long-suffering, visionary fore parents – who built a society that was the envy of the world, while wearing the yoke of apartheid and slavery….

    …only to have it disgraced by the last 25 years of ass holes with degrees.


  23. Vincent
    thanks. Are still with the whiskey or its it rum these days (and nites)?


  24. @ Grace Fuller

    Like Bush Tea et al BU is cynical about this mess. This government has a poor record of implementing projects.


  25. David
    There are two type of ‘projects’ which politicians pursue
    1. Genuine projects intended to benefit the Nation
    2. Those which are about fees intended to benefit the Politicians

    Examples: the Pierhead Marina and the New Cruise Pier fall into category 2. The new sugar factor at Andrews falls into category 1. You can tell the difference between the categories by how many consultants are engaged by the GOB, at the expense of the GOB and by the share size of the consulting fee engagement.

    Would you be surprised to learn that the BWA has already paid $30+ millions on the West Coast Sewerage project, and all they have for that expense is some drawings and pokey ass office in Holetown with a few tables and chairs and outdated fax machine?


  26. Grace Fuller January 28, 2015 at 1:55 PM #

    Vincent
    thanks. Are still with the whiskey or its it rum these days (and nites)?
    …………………………………………

    I can see age is catching up with you or is it those new fancy spirits destroying your brain cells……remember the Doctor warned both of us to stick to beer…..looks like you did not take his advice.

  27. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Grace Fuller January 28, 2015 at 12:25 PM #
    “I would like to know more about the 10,000 ft deep geothermal well and how it produces electricity, anyone know?”

    I too would like to hear more about this “10,000 ft deep geothermal well”.
    Is it geologically possible to extract that amount of heat from a well on a coral island? I know volcanic islands like St. Lucia and Nevis can supply geothermal energy in commercial quantities . But Barbados would surely be an interesting place to conduct such a study with large consultancy fees to follow the kickbacks to Quisling Boyce , Lowe and others.

    BTW, G F, you seem to be quite involved in this co-generation plant as part of the imaginary new sugar cane industry. So tell us, outside the cane harvesting season, what would the factory be burning to generate electricity? Isn’t the river tamarind plant earmarked for the production of animal feed; and the garbage all over the island for Lowe’s WTE incinerator?
    Would the co-generation facility be the new crematorium to put Coral Ridge and the Bajan grave diggers and undertakers out of business?


  28. @Grace Fuller

    What is the latest with Cahill?


  29. Bush Tea January 28, 2015 at 12:05 PM #
    @ GP
    Do you think that Bushie will be interested in arguing with a doctor about the merits or otherwise of sugar – whether from sugar cane or corn?
    YOU DOIT ALL THE TIME

    CERTAINLY SUGAR –ESPECIALY SIMPLE SUGARS- OUGHT TO BE USED MINIMALLY, AND FOLK SHOULD GO BACK TO USE OF COMPLEX SUGARS.

    BUT IT CAN NOT BE DENIED THAT GLUCOSE –DERIVED FROM SUGAR OF ALL SORTS–IS THE MOLECULE UPON MICH THE METABOLISM OF ALL LIVING THINGS RUN.

    RE . Wuh shiite fella, if Bushie was a doctor with an expensive Benz to maintain, then the bushman may even GIVE AWAY sugar to all and sundry… I DO NOT HAVE A BENZ OR EXPENSIVE CAR AND I DON’T CONDONE GIVING SUGAR TO ALL.

    I BELIEVE THAT THE USE OF COMPLEX SUGARS AS FOUND IN TUBERS AND OTHER ROOT CROPS IS THE WAY TO GO.

    EVEN SO WHERE THESE ARE THE PRIMARY FORMS OF FOOD FOR MANY ALL OVER THE WORLD, WE KNOW THAT OBESITY IS RELATED TO MANY OTHER FACTORS.

    FOR EXAMPLE HIGH CONSUMPTION OF BOTH FATS ALCOHOL AND PROTEINS ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO OBESITY………AS ALL OF THESE FOODS ARE METABOLISED TO ACETYL CoENYME A WHICH IS THE PRECURSOR TO THE FORMATION OF FATY ACIDS AND TRI ACYLGLYCERIDES(FATS) AND CHOLESTEROL.

    RE In a recent lecture at the Frank Collymore Hall, a lady researcher who knows more about it than you do, explained that there is a DIRECT correlation between the consumption of sugar and obesity and diabetes.
    HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT I KNOW, AND THAT SHE KNOWS MORE THAN I DO? IS IT BECAUSE SHE IS PAID TO SAY WHAT YOU BELIEVE?

    RE You could sing all the praises you like of sugar and HFCS.
    I HAVE NEVER SUNG THE PRAISES OF EITHER SUGAR OR HFFS

    WHAT I CLEARLY SAID—AND IT CAN NOT BE REFUTED EVEN BY “The lady researcher who knows more about it than “I do— IS THAT THE METABOLISM OF ALL LIFE FORMS REVOLVES AROUND GLUCOSE AND GLYCOLYSIS.

    WHAT I ALSO ACCURATELY SAID IS THAT SUGAR OF ALL FORMS WHETHER FROM BEETS, SUGAR CANE OR CORN IS METABOLIZED BY THE SAME METABOLIC PATHWAY.

    I AM SORRY THAT YOUR OBVIOUS BIAS DOES NOT PERMIT YOU TO ACCEPT THE ACCURACY OF THE VERY VERY BASIC BIOCHEMISTRY THAT I HAVE STATED.


  30. Bush Tea is enamored by an imported consultant researcher? Wow, stranger things have been known to happen…lol.


  31. You just got to love the PM. He spoke today at the BCCI Luncheon and promised the sugar farmers will get paid…soon. If only he did not make it sound like the farmers begging for something.


  32. David
    put up the audio clip of pm address to the BCCI


  33. LOL @ GP and David
    What can Bushie say? the woman knows more than anyone else… it is her specialty. Apparently she came up with the drug that allows diabetics to come off the insulin injection and at the same time, improve their blood sugar /insulin balance.

    BTW Bushie never said that you were wrong GP….just that simple sugar and particularly the ubiquitous HFCS has been the REASON that obesity and diabetes is now almost epidemic.

    if everyone did everything in moderation we would not recognize this world. Do you have ANY idea how many sweet drinks modern children drink EACH DAY?

    …back in our day we could only afford one each week – and had to share it with 4 others… 🙂
    we were no smarter…just poorer.


  34. RE David January 28, 2015 at 4:20 PM #
    Bush Tea is enamored by an imported consultant researcher? Wow, stranger things have been known to happen…lol.

    BAJANS ALWAYS SEEM TO THINK THAT SOME ONE FROM OVERSEAS IS IN SOME WAY SUPERIOR TO LOCAL EXPERTISE

    WE ALL KNOW FOLK WHO USE LITTLE SUGAR, AND INDEED EAT VERY LITTLE, BUT YET GAINED WEIGHT.

    IN CONTRAST WE ALSO KNOW OF FOLK WHO EAT LOTS OF FOOD AND DRINK NUFF RUM—BUT YET THEY ARE AS THIN AS A BONE. SO CLEARLY THERE IS MORE TO OBESITY THAN JUST THE USE OF SUGAR OR HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP.

    WHEREAS THESE MOLECULES ARE INVOLVED WE KNOW THAT CERTAIN FATS IN THE DIET AND OVER CONSUMPTION OF MEAT IS ALSO INVOLVED

    IN ADDITION CERTAIN HORMONES AND ENZYMES HAVE RECENTLY BEEN DISCOVERED BY REAL TRUE TRUE RESEARCHERS THAT INDICATE THAT THERE IS MORE IN THE MORTAR THAN THE PESTLE
    WHAT IS ALSO KNOWN IS THAT SOME CONSULTANT RESEARCHERS ARE PAID TO REPORT WHATEVER THEIR EMPLOYERS WANT REPORTED.

    THE RESULT IS A LOT OF TROUBLE IN THE PHARM INDUSTRY, INTER ALIA


  35. RE Apparently she came up with the drug that allows diabetics to come off the insulin injection and at the same time, improve their blood sugar /insulin balance.

    YOU DO OF COURSE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN LOTS OF TROUBLE WITH THESE PREPARATIONS……….OR IT SEEMS YOU DONT KNOW


  36. dAVID
    I GOT A NEW DRUG TOO
    CAN YOU ARRANGE A TALK FOR ME AT FRANK COLLYMORE HALL
    ITS CALLED PUSS-A
    ITS FOR MEN WHO CANT STOP TROUBLING WOMEN
    WICKERS CAN USE IT TO
    WHEN YOU TAKE IT, YOU FORGET ALL ABOUT PUSS…….E OR C


  37. Wow, a lot here today.

    1) Bushie / Dr.GP – I do not doubt the accuracy your (DR.GP’s) comments, however, on this I think all Bushie is saying, as I inferred in the original comment, is that in the circumstances, sugar is effectively a poison.

    Yes, sugar is used as energy, in all its forms, via the processes and pathways. However, thrown on top of a ‘regular meal’, and consumed in excess, it ‘becomes’, for practical purposes, effectively a poison.

    And for us to put emphasies of sugar production over say, okras, yam and carrots, even brussel sprouts (via modern techniques), is madness.

    And yes, the emphasis being on producing fibrous, complex-carbs and legumes in preference to sugar, is the intent.

    2) Grace Fuller / David – Promises, promises….. that a project will result in significant energy gains. So, is that the main intent? If so, then why not put those funds directly into solar energy for most households and businesses, where the returns in saving on imported oil etc will be direct and more sustainable???? Also, using solar energy, rather than farmland, thus saving farmland for other productive uses i.e. maximization of resources, including using an ‘within mankind’s lifetime’ infinite resource (the Sun), for energy production?

    But noooooooooo……

    3) David – farmers will get paid ‘soon’? Like Barack? Like the tax refunds? Like the NCC wokers?

    It is obvious, except to the most foolhardy, that Government does not have the funds to pay anyone.

    That said, seemingly good tourist season, monies coming in from the margins on gas prices, WHERE IS the money going??????????????????????????


  38. Georgie Porgie January 28, 2015 at 6:35 PM #

    I though that was chile saltpeter???? 😉


  39. @GP

    Give John Boyce a call.


  40. RE David January 28, 2015 at 7:01 PM #
    @GP

    Give John Boyce a call.

    YOU MEAN BOUT PUSS -A? LOL

  41. St George's Dragon Avatar
    St George’s Dragon

    The Andrews bio-mass electricity generating plant is planned to run on bagasse in cane harvest and on river tamarind the rest of the year. Apparently the initial study said they needed (from memory) 5,000 hectares of land in tamarind. The story goes that the study which established the farm area was based on tamarind yields from the U.S.; it was an old potash mine (fertilizer, in other words) and the hot money is that we will get nothing like the tamarind yields they predicted.
    Also, you have to ask why the plant has been given the go-ahead when no tamarind trial has to my knowledge been carried out here. Who is going to grow it; how much will they get paid? So many questions.


  42. Crusoe January 28, 2015 at 6:39 PM #

    THIS IS NOT THE DEFINITION OF A POISON SIR
    MAN HAS CONSUMED SUGAR IN ALL ITS FORMS FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL

    SO DID WE WHEN I CAME ALONG– WE JUST DIDNT ABUSE IT OR WE WERE BURNING IT OFF IN INTENSIVE ACTIVITY/EXERCISE

    WE WERE WASTING THE XYLITOL IN THE BAGASSE FOR THREE CENTURIES


  43. Dragon
    Have you not noticed the river tamarind trials being undertaken by the GOB and BAMC in the Belle…………..all visible from the ABC highway??????


  44. @ Crusoe January 28, 2015 at 6:22 AM #

    David January 28, 2015 at 6:15 AM #

    All I have heard is a ‘multi-purpose’ facility, what that means I have no idea. But the with an inability to harvest in the first place, how can the project be viable?
    ……………………………………………………………

    Why are these idiots borrowing all of this money to most to Jada and Preconco? We can bet these two will get this contract. we have been told for years that producing sugar is not viable any longer, why are we going this way instead of looking to turn the sugar lands into growing vegetables and employ agriculture “police” to guard the fields?

    Lord, these morons have gone mad. Who is going to account for this money? The politician?


  45. Prodigal Son

    the government aint borrowing a cent for the new multipurpose factory, it is a foreign direct investment by private company made up of investors from UK, Brazil, South Africa and Germany.


  46. @ Colonel Buggy January 28, 2015 at 11:39 AM #

    and

    @Grace Fuller January 28, 2015 at 11:34 AM #

    “The new ‘multi-purpose’ factory are Andrews will earn more money from the co-generation of electricity than from the sale of all of the sugar and its by-products.”……………………………………………………..

    Mark my words on this 28th day of January, 2015. This so called multi purpose factory is a pipe dream and will end up just like Greenland under the Bees!

    Waste of borrowed funds……why dont these morons stop borrowing expensive money? Why are these morons putting these heavy burdens on our children to repay!


  47. all the government will be doing is operating the factory


  48. @ GP,

    I SEE THAT YOU HAVE RETURNED.


  49. Chuckle…….still spinning top in mud……..when will the sheeple awake???/…..

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