Cane Industry Restructuring Project (CIRP) and River Tamarind
The government of Barbados by its recent decision appears to be committed to the $250 million Cane Industry Restructuring Project (CIRP). The goal of the project is to integrate the existing sugar industry into the emerging renewable energy project Barbados has ambitiously undertaken to diversify energy needs. Barbadian taxpayers are always the last to be informed about the finer points of public sector projects. One question which keeps surfacing is what part river tamarind will play in the new enterprise. Tony ‘Kite’ Gibbs in a comment on another blog made the following intervention.
Permit me if you please to analyze the ‘facts’ surrounding the CIRP currently in the public domain and hopefully shed a little light on the burning issues.
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25 MW of electricity generated, 65 MW of waste heat suggest an input of 85MW and system efficiency of 30%.
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30,000 tonnes of sugar suggest 330,000 tones of cane and 100,000 tons of bagasse of which 33% will be used internally for process steam and electricity. 67% will be converted to electricity that will be exported to the grid.
This level of exported electricity from bagasse is equivalent to an average of 5.4 MW. This means that approximately 17MW will be required from river tamarind. To acquire 17MW of power from river tamarind requires approximately 150,000 tons of river tamarind.
Based on the best agronomic practices, it is possible to get 100 tons per hectare for fuel crops such as river tamarind with the proper plant spacing. These crops have a 3-5 year cycle. The best we can get from sugar cane currently is 20 tons per acre.
When BL&P looked at this project back in 2012, their costings were based on a reference or base price of BDS$10 per million BTU’s for locally produced biomass. This works out to about BDS$120 per ton. This means that bagasse and by extension river tamarind would be worth more per ton to the farmers that the $60 per ton they are getting for sugar cane.
Finally, for those who would listen this is not a cane industry restructuring project but first and foremost an energy project. Barbados no longer has a sugarcane industry.
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david
Are you promoting this for the South and West coast of Barbados or only on the East coast?
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Imagine how that would look near shore say from by Accra beach or Hasting boardwalk.
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The average we are getting from sugar cane may be 20 tonnes per acre, but that is hardly the best we can get from sugar cane. the best farmers have yields of 35 tonnes cane per acre. The translates to a little over 70 tonnes per hectare,per year. Where as river tamarind needs 3 to 5 years to achieve 100 tonnes per hectare. Which is to say, cane is still more productive on a per annum basis.
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Modern Life Is Probably Screwed by Peak Oil, But It’s Not Too Late to Avoid Mass Starvation
By George Monbiot
I don’t know when global oil supplies will start to decline. I do know that another resource has already peaked and gone into freefall: the credibility of the body that’s meant to assess them. Last week two whistleblowers from the International Energy Agency alleged that it has deliberately upgraded its estimate of the world’s oil supplies in order not to frighten the markets. Three days later, a paper published by researchers at Uppsala University in Sweden showed that the IEA’s forecasts must be wrong, because it assumes a rate of extraction that appears to be impossible. The agency’s assessment of the state of global oil supplies is beginning to look as reliable as Mr Greenspan’s blandishments about the health of the financial markets.
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According to farm scientists at Cornell University, cultivating one hectare of maize in the United States requires 40 litres of petrol and 75 litres of diesel. The amazing productivity of modern farm labour has been purchased at the cost of a dependency on oil. Unless farmers can change the way it’s grown, a permanent oil shock would price food out of the mouths of many of the world’s people. Any responsible government would be asking urgent questions about how long we have got.
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The Uppsala report, published in the journal Energy Policy, anticipates that maximum global production of all kinds of oil in 2030 will be 76m barrels per day. Analysing the IEA’s figures, it finds that to meet its forecasts for supply, the world’s new and undiscovered oil fields would have to be developed at a rate “never before seen in history.” As many of them are in politically or physically difficult places, and as capital is short, this looks impossible. Assessing existing fields, the likely rate of discovery and the use of new techniques for extraction, the researchers find that “the peak of world oil production is probably occurring now.”
http://vww.alternet.org/story/144017/modern_life_is_probably_screwed_by_peak_oil%2C_but_it%27s_not_too_late_to_avoid_mass_starvation
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Green Monkey, forget the peak oil nonsense. Every gasoline engine can be converted to run on natural gas. In the US alone, there is over a hundred years gas reserves. Even if oil does start to decline in the next 30 years, it can be replaced.
Fracking as a technology has been proven to work despite the bawling from the usual liberal lefties and phony environmentalist that continue their propaganda campaign unabated, and that process continues to increase oil supply.
I will not be losing any sleep over this one.
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This DLP Government is an Idiot Government,
The DLP is destroying Barbados,
The story of BRA for example is a sad one that
needs serious investigation by the opposition and people in Barbados.
Never before in the history of Income Tax has unpaid returns gone over to the next year –never-
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@ Neville
Boy you ent see nuttin yet……
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The first battle the BRA should have taken on is to audit Leroy Parris and others to deal with this taking for granted of our oversight bodies.
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David
I understand that the 23 March is a non starter for logistical reasons……we shall see
Still cannot understand why you would start a harvest???
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Stephen McLeash March 4, 2015 at 8:13 AM #
David
You all that river tamarind the GOB got growing in the Belle?
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Tell me that I am seeing things. Barbados’ abandoned cane fields and former rab land, from the north of the island to the south ,are all covered in River Tamarind, and the Government has seen it fit to cultivate River Tamarind in the Belle?
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From Nature, the international weekly journal of science, 03 Dec 2014:
I would recommend anyone wanting an insight into the interactions between energy, resource depletion and the economy review the articles on the blog of Insurance industry actuary Gail Tverberg at ourfiniteworldDOTcom
About Gail Tverberg:
My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues – oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to inadequate supply.
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“… 30,000 tonnes of sugar suggest 330,000 tones of cane and 100,000 tons of bagasse of which 33% will be used internally for process steam and electricity. 67% will be converted to electricity that will be exported to the grid.
This level of exported electricity from bagasse is equivalent to an average of 5.4 MW. This means that approximately 17MW will be required from river tamarind. To acquire 17MW of power from river tamarind requires approximately 150,000 tons of river tamarind.”
The above statements need further clarification. Maybe the following questions could assist:
Is this new “restructured” energy producing cum specialty sugars factory going to be operational everyday/night of the year?
How many months of the year would the reaping and processing of the estimated 330,000 tonnes of cane into 30,000 tonnes of sugar be required?
How many months of the year would the 150,000 of river tamarind take to cut down, transported to the factory and burnt to generate the 17MW of power?
When and where would the electricity generated from both of these sources for on-feed into the national grid be stored?
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@ Miller
The above statements need further clarification. Maybe the following questions could assist:
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steupsss…. you ever heard that bullshit baffles brains…?
can’t you smell bullshit when it is piled so high around you…?
That whole thing is just a lotta shiite to justify borrowing a couple hundred million dollars…much of which will be diverted to current expenditure to get this government over a few more precious months as they inch towards the pensions-finish-line….and leave our asses in even more debt…
Bushie never heard so much damn shit in his long life ’bout here….
(well…not counting AC…)
By the way … what happened to the Engineers association? don’t they have any more professional opinions on these complex projects like WTE and this sugar shiite? ..they got stung with 3S or what?
If this is such a sweet ENERGY project …pray tell why BL&P is not doing it ..or apparently even involved?
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This is about current expenditure, bribes and kickbacks and those sweets are to be spread as lean as possible…
River tamerind shiite…..
Which TRUE professional is standing publicly behind this project?
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When you look at the uniformly planted River Tamarind in the Belle, given the fact that the River Tamarind plant propagates rapidly, the cost of labour to keep these plants from doing so must be quite high.Higher than sugar cane . This may be necessary if the River Tamarind is intended to be harvested by mechanical means.
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labour pains for Mia Mottley
The opposition BLP to announce this weekend whether or not it will abandon its boycott of House of Assembly debates…amid reports that the opposition will back down from its hard-line stance.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// what waste of taxpayers money
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@Vincent, Colonel Buggy et al
Have we had the crop starting this late?
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If the crop has ever been started this late , it might have been one time within the last 15 years when the union and the sugar producers were haggling over payment for the workers. But certainly in the old days, ie prior to year 2000, it always started either in January of February.
The owner of Nicholas Abbey has stated ,because of the late start he may loose a considerable percentage of his yield.
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What about the argument by Warren we need to cultivate sugar cane to defend the island look.
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But lets face it, how long are we able to attract visitors to these shores, to gawk at roads overgrown with grass and fields upon fields of brush. Perhaps in the next 50 years when these the neglected and abandoned lands mature into a rain forest, then we may be able to market it in the same way as Dominica does.
Cane is not the only answer . Some years ago I remember the buzz word was cultivating Rattan. Coffee and Cashews were grown in Barbados on a commercial scale , according to my father, whose life, spanned three centuries.
Here in Barbados , the Almond tree, either grows wild, or as an ornamental plant. But in parts of the USA and Central America, the Almond is a very viable crop.
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@Buggy
We need to make up minds what we want to do with sugar and bloody do it.
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@David March 7, 2015 at 1:38 AM #
Still not sure despite the mouthings when or if this years crop will start……so far it has broken all known records
I agree with Warrens’ views
@Colonel Buggy March 8, 2015 at 3:35 PM #
I heard that we aloso had a thriving tamarind operation going for export to be used in Worcestershire sauce
@David March 8, 2015 at 3:39 PM #
Wishfull thinking…..the entire system is broke,not only sugar……no one seems to know how to fix it
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One step forward and two steps backwards. Sinckler and Estwick back at it again.
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@ Vincent
…no one seems to know how to fix it
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Boss ….they are such brass bowls that they don’t even know that they don’t know…
Got some bad news fuh yuh Vincie boy…
Dog dead!!
The “evil times” are upon us…
…welcome to a new dispensation…
where evil is good ..and good is shiite
where high is low ..and low is high…
where ISIS is attractive to the youth …but not public service
where the first is last …and the last is first (realhistory, Racism blog)
So expect the following….
ISIS and Boca Haram will gain in strength…
Stuart and Sinckler will continue to fumble along…
while Mia and her lot wait their turn to continue the decline..
The traditional values will slide …
USA and EU will out-do us in brass bowlery
Sugar is dead
Cricket is dead
Sweet life is gone…
We are now in for the worst period EVER in the history of human civilization….
Perhaps you may need to review the perspective with which you look at this late start of our sugar crop…..
…you think? 🙂
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This River Tamarind talk is a load of BS and is a distraction and no real alternative to the problems facing the sugar industry. I vote for continued planting of Moringa trees since that seems to be the be all for whatever ails you so local sales should go through the roof, wuh Bushie even tried Moringa to restore his flagging manhood …..well he can come clean with the results.
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@Norst
How so?
On Monday, 9 March 2015, Barbados Underground wrote:
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@ Sargeant
Shiite man….. yuh going tell out ALL o’ Bushie’s secrets now?
LOL
But Sarge, what result would you expect with moringa ..from people who cannot even succeed with sugar that THEY pioneered for 400 years… Is sugar not one of the most pervasive food items in use as we speak..?
People who cannot even succeed with things that are UNIQUE to them (like sea island cotton and black belly sheep)
People who spent BILLIONS on ‘education’ and now depend on others to own, manage, control and dictate their assets, people and future….?
…while they beg, borrow and scrape like pets?
Moringa shiite…. we would just find ways to incur a couple more hundred million dollars in debt ..while Estwick and Sinckler continue with their incoherent tiffs and Stuart snores on….
…and Mia continues like a dumb blond…..
Brass bowls will be brass bowls….
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@ David
Did Estwick not write to Fumble complaining that Stinker bypassed him and gave some instruction that goes against a cabinet decision….
By the time Froon wakes up and gets to read that letter ..deadlines will have passed and million dollar projects scrapped….
Three big brass bowls….
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Bush Tea March 9, 2015 at 8:08 AM #
Cannot disagree with you……the dog is dead……I wonder if the young ones care or know……as some one said some time ago,we are a bunch of old Duffers,who like to complain amongst ourselves…….hmmmmmm
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The MOF is out of control. Its only a matter of time before he thinks he is strong enough to challenge Fumble for Prime Minister. No a fellow in cabinet except for Essy got the balls to challenge Sinckler.
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Both these intellectually and politically backward, bankrupt and discredited DLP and BLP disorganizations must go or be forced to go in the forseeable future in this country.
A reading of the back page story of the Sunday Sun, March 8, 2015, would show that the Blasted BLP team in the House of Assembly is no longer boycotting sittings therein but will return as a team to the House of Assembly on Tuesday. Indeed, they were boycotting those sessions in protest against the Speaker of the House of Assembly, Mr Michael Carrington’s refusal to vacate the Chair after being ordered by a High Court Judge to hand over a substantial amount in monies to a former client, John Griffith.
Now, the move was a terrible political strategy by Miss Mia Mottley and shows again how seriously lacking in political substance she is.
A reading of the back page of today’s Daily Nation newspaper, March 9, 2015, shows that the Minister of Finance, Mr Chris Sinckler, and the Minister of Agriculture, Dr David Estwick, are at it again, this time, over an attempt by the Minister of Finance to divert credits gained from Ansa Merchant Bank for purposes of helping set the basis for use of monies and credits towards the Barbados Cane Industry Restructuring Project, to purposes NOT negotiated by Dr Estwick and company.
As such an attempted diversion is learned of by the PDC, it clearly has serious and adverse implications for the further transferring of credits to the government of Barbados by other external financial institutions, for the credit rating of the government of Barbados by the big credit rating agencies – Standard and Poor’s, Moody’s – and for the restructuring of the Barbados Cane Sugar Restructuring Project, et al very horrendously negative.
Meanwhile, the worst prime minister Barbados has had so far in its post-independence history, sits like a bulging rebarbative frog, in a pan of water over a fire in a stove, waiting until the water gets hotter before it jumps out of the pan.
PDC
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@ Stephen McLeash March 9, 2015 at 2:48 PM #
“The MOF is out of control. Its only a matter of time before he thinks he is strong enough to challenge Fumble for Prime Minister. No a fellow in cabinet except for Essy got the balls to challenge Sinckler.”
Do you expect a castrated bulldog like Estwick whose tongue has been clipped to breed a silverback gorilla like Liar Sickler?
You mean not even Sir Donville Inniss- a man of independent means- can’t even put Stinkliar in his place?
We all know the Don from Pornville nakedly wants to be the P M of poor Bim but it seems he has allowed his mouth to run like a sick nigger backside much too often.
In his fits of drunken stupor he comes across as suffering from a congenital case of intellectual flatulence and has emitted to much hot air for his own good.
But even-Steven I would put my money behind the king of porn for P M before backing that Emperor of bold-faced lies Stinkliar. One wonder what story he is preparing to tell about the Four Seasons ‘always ready to restart very soon’ project. That it is no longer his baby as it has been returned to the Private sector?
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Estwick got to tone it down with Inniss, as he may very well put a spoke in Hoodees wheel, from setting up shop outside the Airport , where Frankies got burnt out.
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David March 4, 2015 at 9:26 PM #
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Meanwhile in Barbados , at the side of the Old General Horse- Pit-al
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@Colonel
Is this the government’s way of keeping down the grass in hard times?
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Colonel Buggy March 9, 2015 at 5:41 PM #
David March 4, 2015 at 9:26 PM #
You should know better…..showing up people as” PUDR” says treasoness
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It seems that Mr Sinckler is going to eat out Mr Estwick’s money before Mr Estwick’s tamarind project gets off the ground. Will Mr Estwick”s lamentations be answered or will he have to bite the dust again
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Besides being unethical to use funds access for one reason for another is it legal and who is responsible for calling out the government on it? We live in a democracy don’t we?
On 10 March 2015 at 12:58, Barbados Underground wrote:
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David…
Besides being unethical to use funds access for one reason for another is it legal and who is responsible for calling out the government on it?
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This is the story of our last 30 years.
You REALLY think that the sugar factory scheme or the CAHILL plot was about alternative energy?
Boss…. these are about GETTING EASY MONEY to spend on MP cars, trips, salaries and other shiite. It is just that lenders are easier to maneuver if you go with these fancy projects… 🙂
We have been doing this shiite for YEARS now…
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It seems that Mr Sinckler will eat out the cane re-structuring money before Mr Estwick’s tamarind project gets off the ground. Will Mr Estwick’s lamentations be heard this time or will he be again made to bite the dust?
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Minister of Agriculture Dr David Estwick has again written to the Prime Minister, this time complaining that his colleague Minister of Finance Chris Sinckler is behaving as though he is the Cabinet.
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In a letter dated February 27 addressed to Prime Minister Freundel Stuart, Estwick charged that officials of the Ministry of Finance, on Sinckler’s instructions, bypassed his office and issued instructions to the general manager of the Barbados Agricultural Management Company (BAMC) that were not in keeping with Cabinet decisions.
The matter surrounded the long-awaited loan from ANSA Merchant Bank of Trinidad, which he said was secured specifically to restructure the local sugar industry, but which the Ministry of Finance was now asking BAMC to use to pay wages, salaries, vacation pay and Sol (Simpson Oil Limited).
Describing the matter as “a fundamental breakdown in Cabinet governance”, Estwick noted he had been charged by that body through decisions made on May 13, 2013 and January 15, 2015 to advance the project.
Please read the full story in today’s Daily Nation, or in the eNATION edition.
– See more at: http://www.nationnews.com
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What a lot of people don’t know about this matter above is that Sinckler is trying to get his hands on the Cane Industry Restructuring Project bond proceeds so that he can pay his good friend M Maloney the $20 MILLION he is claiming BAMC owe him for the molasses tanks at the Bridgetown Port.
WHAT A TANGLE WEB WE WEAVE WHEN WE FIRST PRACTICE TO DECEIVE.
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or that the Governor has approved the use of the Housing Credit Fund of the Central Bank to pay directly to Ministry of Finance money the BRA/Treasury advance to the NHC in 2013, 2014. Once the money from the Central Bank’s Housing Credit Fund hits the MOF/Treasury then the Minister can pay M Maloney from Preconco the $28 MILLION he is claiming the GOB owe him for Grotto housing project.
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can anyone on BU guess which director on the board of the Central Bank has responsibility and oversight of the Housing Credit Fund?
What a fucking sham the Central Bank has turned out to be.
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Estwick has become so irrelevant that on another day this story would have been a hot talking point on BU and on Brasstacks.
Mr Estwick, no one is taking you seriously. You lost all credibility and what little you had left after your last outburst in March last year. Had you stood up and acted like a man then who claimed he had principle, you would not have to be here begging the PM to control the Stinkliar in 2015.
You sound worse than two little siblings complaining to Mommy………mom she took my toy….mom he took my sandwich……Have you no shame? Why are you continually compromising yourself when dealing with Stinkliar. You know that he is an inept, incompetent lying bastard who does not know what the hell he is doing, you said so yourself.
Go away, you are just as useless as Fumble and the liar!
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Advice from PM Stuart to David Estwick, ” Get a Doctor, preferably a Psychiatrist”
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Estwick should concentrate on franchising Hoodies.
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Where next should he locate a Hoodies?
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Sugar consultants issue warning to Sinckler
Added by Emmanuel Joseph on March 12, 2015.
Saved under Agriculture, Local News
The much-touted Barbados Cane Industry Restructuring Project (BCIRP) tonight appears to be facing a serious threat.
The Inter-Sugar Partnership (ISP), which negotiated a $70 million sugar bond with Ansa Merchant Bank of Trinidad and Tobago for the project, is casting blame on Minister of Finance Chris Sinckler.
The problem reportedly stems from efforts by Sinckler to change a May 15, 2013 Cabinet decision which directed that the bond money be used to fund the field side of the BCIRP and also its advance financing requirements.
In addition to that, a letter from the Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Agriculture, Esworth Reid, dated February 27, 2015, reminded the chairman of the Barbados Agricultural Management Company (BAMC) that “the funds borrowed are to be managed by the Barbados Cane Industry Corporation (BCIC), the Government entity charged with responsibility to implement the restructuring of the project.”
Speaking to Barbados TODAY from the United Kingdom, Edward Marston, an ISP director, was adamant that the island’s sugar industry would die if Sinckler succeeded in redirecting the proceeds of the bond to satisfy an outstanding debt by the BAMC.
“The effect of what would happen, if the Minister of Finance is successful, is that out of a bond proceeds of $31 million net, for which $12 million have been left with the BAMC to pay the farmers that the Prime Minister promised . . . approximately $19 million (remained) which was transferred to Barbados Cane Industry Corporation, because that is the entity that has been charged by Cabinet with responsibility to undertake this project,” Marston noted.
“My understanding is that the inter-financial arrangement that the Minister of Finance is seeking to rely on, which is that funds are due back to the Treasury (amounting to) $17 million. So out of $19 million that went to BCIC, the Minister of Finance is requesting that $17 million be sent back to the Treasury. That would leave the BCIC with roughly $2 million,” he added.
Marston pointed out that the BCIC cannot refund the $17 million because it has had to deduct four or five million from the $19 million to pay over to BAMC to start this year’s sugar crop. He said: “The only money left at BCIC now is $15 million for which the Minister of Finance is saying he is entitled to $17 million.”
Marston added: “If the Minister of Finance is successful in getting the Cabinet of Barbados or whoever else to agree to this new adoption, it in essence means that the Government’s BCIRP Project is dead by default.”
“Not a nickel (would be left) to advance the due diligence with the funders, no money to pay Bosh, the engineering constructors, no money to pay the demolition which is a precondition to the funding [nor] the environmental assessment.”
Ian Rogers, another ISP director who participated in the interview, cautioned that the “most fundamental fallout” would adversely affect farmers. “But more fundamentally,” he stressed, “(there would be) no money to pay the balance of payment that would be due to the farmers for the 2015 crop, contrary to promises made by the Prime Minister that this year’s crop would be paid for in full”.
Rogers noted that what the Minister of Finance was asking would also go against the basis on which Ansa Merchant Bank raised the $70 million loan in the first place.
In a letter written to the General Manager of BAMC, Leslie Parris, dated February 23, 2015, and signed by Gia Howell for the Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Finance, Parris was instructed to settle a previous debt from the money received from Ansa Merchant Bank.
“I am directed to inform you that the Minister of Finance has advised that the advances related to salaries, wages, vacation pay and payments to SOL Barbados [Simpson Oil Limited] and the overseas supplier Czarnikov made to BAMC, will be reimbursed to the Treasury from the proceeds of the $32 million loan from Ansa Merchant Bank,” the letter read.
”Please have the necessary loan agreement between the BAMC and the Government of Barbados drawn up to facilitate the reimbursement to the Treasury from the proceeds of this loan,” it concluded.
In reply to the Minister of Finance’s request, Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Agriculture, Esworth Reid, wrote on February 27, 2015 “the Minister of Agriculture, Food, Fisheries and Water Resource Management has instructed the Permanent Secretary to convey the…position to the principals of the Barbados Agricultural Management Company Limited for their guidance and compliance, because your request as instructed by the Minister of Finance, appears counter to the decision of the Cabinet.”
When contacted, Sinckler said he had no comment to make on the matter.
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This is the kind of thing one sees when government officials are just puppets who are owned and controlled by secret private interests.
Sounds a lot like the arrangement that David Thompson would have made to divert CLICO funds to his master Parris when it became clear that the bottom was falling from the CLICO barrel……
Thank God that BU will provide the needed transparency so that we can all see the dirty wash when the public laundry begins….
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Wunnah hear dah gust o wind from the perfect storm?
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David
Seems we are no clearer to a start date……hmmmmmm
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@Vincent
Looking like April, is it worth it though?
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re Seems we are no clearer to a start date
the start date is april 1 off course ———-all fools day!
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@David March 12, 2015 at 5:19 PM #
No……we have an interesting stand off
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Do we have a Minister of Agriculture,or do we really have a Minister of Construction?
Somebody’s Crop will start when the new Sugar Factory starts construction.
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Buggy
a minister of agriculture who gets things done than others couldn’t or wouldn’t do.
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Stephen McLeash March 13, 2015 at 3:08 PM #
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For example ???????????????
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