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Stuart and Arthur, our political leaders in waiting
Stuart and Arthur, our political leaders in waiting

Whether you believe that the political manifesto of a political party is its intent to rollout certain policies if elected or that it is a social contract becomes an exercise in semantics. It is currently the preferred option which political parties have to outline a set of promises which they hope – if elected – to implement. In a growing democracy the electorate should have a reasonable expectation that a political party’s record over time should demonstrate the level of credence given to manifesto promises.

What is reprehensible is that with 10 days left to the 21 February 2013 both political parties continue to withhold manifestos (proposals) from the electorate as if it were a big secret. This is happening at a time when our tiny island continues to face unprecedented challenges posed by the global state of affairs. Both major political parties obviously see political tactics and gamesmanship being more relevant.  What does it say about us?

Until we achieve a higher level of maturity how we conduct political campaigns in Barbados the current reality which see political parties entertaining the party faithful and others looking for a good laugh will continue. Why would an intelligent electorate, and society, not demand from the candidates that they communicate their proposals to inform debate in the country well in advance of the election date? If ever there was a time in our history when we needed our politicians to depart from the same old same old the time is now surely. What does it say about us?

One is therefore left to ask, what has been the objective of the political campaigning so far? If both political parties and the handful of Independents have the national interest at heart, why not rush to deposit well articulated ideas and suggestions in the public space? The corn beef  style of campaigning described which served a purpose in the 60s and 70s cannot be relevant now. The irony is that more people, especially the youth, are becoming so cynical about politics and giving up their right to participate in our democracy? We have sunk billions into educating our people yet a significant chunk of our citizenry do not feel compelled to fully participate in our system of democracy. What does it say about us?

One manifesto item that will be of high interest to BU is how will both parties outline a media policy. This is a subject which is dear to the BU household. BU was conceptualized and given birth at a time when we detected deep hostility by Arthur and cohorts directed at the media in the 2006 to 2007.  In an information age it is evident significant institutional strengthening is required in the area of journalism and a supporting framework. Both parties should explore how resources can be strategically targeted at this segment which does not compromise its independence. It is 2013 and there is no vibrant body to represent media practitioners. What does it say about us?

Instead of discussing issues we have to witness politicians on both sides hurling abuse and otherwise vacuous statements at each other. However, in less than two weeks they will dress up in their finest Italian suits and enter the august chamber of parliament to assume the mantle of lawmakers. What does it say about us?


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255 responses to “Manifesto WATCH”

  1. Crazy Horse Jockey Avatar
    Crazy Horse Jockey

    David

    I am getting confirmation that Operation Bang is being spear headed by General Pitbull. Operation Bang will dilute the results of CADRES poll being released on Sunday.


  2. @Maddox

    The Bees have already said that if they are attacked they will respond in kind, so have fun with your Bang.


  3. By law there should be a limit to how much an individual could contribute to a political party and, in my view, no corporate should be allowed in law to contribute to political parties and have that money tax deductible. That is corruption.
    We need transparency in our electoral laws: a register of assets and liabilities and an annual audit; if any MP has assets that s/he cannot account for they should be banned from public office for a minimum of five years and face criminal prosecution.
    To get back to the manifesto, or lack of them, patties contesting this election should be spelling out their vision of the future of Barbados, including a roadmap to get us out of this economic mess.
    If they do not, then do not vote for them.


  4. @David

    You have clearly not been attending the meetings and, if you have, you have not been paying attention.

    The BLP has begun to focus on their platform on some of their plans for the future, revealing hints of what is in the manifesto.

    Clyde Mascoll, Mia Mottley and Owen Arthur all dealt with some element of the manifesto in their speeches since Saturday.

    So it is not true to insinuate that they are only focused on their past performance.


  5. Not hints…but clarity and simplicity…


  6. Georgie Porgie | February 12, 2013 at 3:27 PM |

    re Instead of discussing the vexing issue of campaign financing our trusty media – Tony Best included – continue to write about the size of the crowds and related trivia.

    Explanation may be here

    http://bajan.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/barbados-mission-report.pdf


  7. We get the media we deserve. In the 1950s we had seven newspapers. Where are they now?


  8. A few questions for the DLP supporters on this site that have some much faith in their “Big Bang.”

    Why not focus on what you plan to do for the country? Don’t you think that would be more important at this critical in our history given the dire economic circumstances that we face?

    Don’t you not think as well that the electorate might very well judge your party harshly for failing to bring the persons you intend to accuse before the law courts? Has the government by its inaction not aided and abetted the alleged crimes or at least their cover up?

    Sounds like a risky (a.k.a. dumb) strategy to me.


  9. @Hal Austin

    Perhaps the word “hint” was used a bit loosely.

    Specific plans for financing UWI, fixing CLICO, dealing with taxation policy and energy pricing, among others, have been revealed on the platform so far.


  10. @DavidB

    The DLP CANNOT win a debate on managing the economy hence the reference to political condiments.

    Both parties are bereft of a vision to transform Barbados even as the shift to the global economy becomes more apparent. At the top of the agenda must be harnessing a winning attitude by Barbadians. If we can create this awaking in our people the rest is history.

  11. Crazy Horse Jockey Avatar
    Crazy Horse Jockey

    DavidB

    They will do that after they have demonstrated with cold hard evidence why the BLP should never run this country again unless and until a new crop of BLP candidates is introduced.


  12. Forget growth, that is the clarion call of the economic illiterate. We need jobs, jobs, jobs for the 16 – 24 yr old.
    Another questions: should people not born in Barbados be allowed to become MPs?

  13. Crazy Horse Jockey Avatar
    Crazy Horse Jockey

    Hal

    What does the Constitution say MP’s


  14. @David

    I heard Mia speak on this very topic on Sunday night, I think. The idea was not fully fleshed out, but it is clear that this is one area that will be given some treatment in the BLP manifesto.

    The proof of the pudding would be in the implementation. And, I have no illusions about the many slips between cup and lip when it comes to election promises.

    But, at least one party has begun to speak to some of the concerns that we all have.


  15. @DavidB

    What has not been dealt with by the BLP is how will they pay UWI? Increase the current account deficit? How will they settle CLICO Barbados and avoid litigation by OECS countries? They have not addressed the legal implications of this action. How will reverting to subsidising energy via BNOC impact its operation? What evidence do we have that the tax relief promised will generate the revenue in the domestic economy touted by Mascoll ie. 75% of a dollar stays in the domestic economy.


  16. @Crazy Horse

    And they will do all this in five days?

    Or are they relying on this alleged material alone and hoping that in the “aftermath” the people would not notice how bare the DLP cupboard really is?


  17. The UWI problem is not as serious as it appears. Any incoming govt should give the UWI three years to be self-financing, using the Yale endowment model to fund itself, provided the fund is managed by professionals.
    Sir Hilary is empire building. It is as badly run university.
    In exchange for its funding, the govt should have s stronger say in the courses offered and entry qualifications. At present we have people going up to university who do not have qualifications for properly constituted community college.
    Put the university, put it on notice it must be self-financing and improve all round. Also, lecturers must be given new contracts. finally, the university must decide if it is a teaching university. If so, give it five years to become one of the top 2000 universities in the world on the Shanghai list..


  18. @David

    Not true about the financing of UWI. Owen said, I think on Saturday, that the BLP would reduce the contribution to NIS and introduce a higher education levy (to the extent of the reduction) to finance the UWI.


  19. Austin seems committed to reforms. We wish you well with that. We can guarantee you that the system is more likely to change you than you changing it. Don’t you see the ‘black one’ in the USA who talked about change last time turned out be worse than Bush, his predecessor. Drone wars on civilians, NDAA, unprecedented corporatist power grabbing, bringing the drone war home to the US, wagging terrorist wars against sovereign states, behaving like a king and giving himself the right to use drones to kill his own citizens. Do you really think this thing could change? Again, we wish you luck with that!


  20. DavidB | February 12, 2013 at 4:38 PM |
    _______________________________
    DavidB don’t you think Owen Arthur should outline how he intends to clean up the mess he created in the Al Barack case ?

    This matter is important…..since Owen’s claim this time around is
    ” putting money in people’s pocket !!! “


  21. If the nonsensical idea of a graduate in every home is to have any real meaning, the reality is that going forward govt cannot finance that. The brain drain is a big problem in the Caribbean; we cannot continue to train people who want to go off to the US, Canada and the UK. If they do they must repay the taxpayers in full.
    We must also get rid of the Barbados Scholarship, which was created in the 1920s for a totally different society.
    We must give the university a deadline to stand on its own two feet. No more taxpayers’ support.
    Why should the poorly educated pay tens of thousands to educate doctors who treat them like scum?


  22. Regarding CLICO, they have said that they will put OECS governments on notice to bring some assets (specifically Crown lands) to the table. The argument is that they have to take some of the responsibility.

    Remember as well the the OECS countries have already approached the Trinidad government for assistance and it seems they have gotten a favourable response.

    I am prepared to give the new ideas being put forward a chance to succeed or fail.


  23. I have confidence in the people. At some point they must realise that there are collaborators who would sell their parents for their thirty pieces of silver. Just look at the useless expatriates on the West Coast who contribute nothing to the Barbados economy but enjoy the life of Reily. Just have look at who funds political parties behind the scenes.
    Even Barbadians would realise what is going on eventually.


  24. Clico is simple: incompetent regulation got us where we are. People should be in jail.


  25. Regarding BNOC the plan, as I understand it from Clyde Mascoll, is to reduce the profits without allowing it to go back to a deficit/loss situation.

    The resale of fuel oil to the BL&P at world market prices is consumer rape.


  26. @Hal Austin

    Agreed. Some people should be in jail for CLICO.

    And perhaps some dead bones should be dug up and reburied at Dodds!


  27. What would be most interesting is the part that would be willing to gout on a limb and restructing the tourism industry to where locals are mostly involved . revoultionary at best. i would bet that no party would venture into such uncharted watersbut would prefer to conscentrate on the same ole ideas which have remained futile.


  28. @Fractured

    Al Barrack started under the BLP. There was a dispute, it was arbitrated and the government lost. Then the government decided to appeal.

    As far as I know the appeal was not decided until early in the term of the new administration and at that time the money became due and payable.

    The pussyfooting after there were no other legal avenues for appeal has greatly exacerbated the problem in terms of cost, put more especially in the perception that Barbados is a lawless country whose government refuses to obey the rulings of its courts.

    Only the DLP can take credit for that charge.


  29. @ac

    I never thought I would be able to say this, but I agree with you.

    There is a greater need of greater local input into the tourism industry. And not at the level of the big players, but carving out a niche/niches for the small man.

    The greater stake people have in the industry, the higher the level of service would be.

    Cuz on Pebbles Beach and the Shiggidy Shack in St. Kitts are examples of the awesome contribution that can be made by locals to the tourism product.

    I also believe that the Intimate Hotels group needs more support especially in creating a stronger online e-commerce presence, and finding ways where they can present a consistent online brand.

    More has to be done to encourage and incentivize “small people” to cast their lot in this business.


  30. How does reducing the NIS contribution impact NIS surplus? Do we know?


  31. DavidB,

    Why did the BLP terminate Al Barack contract…after declaring he was the best man for the job ?


  32. @Fractured

    That is not the point. I accept that a geological survey should have been done. So there were problems from the beginning.

    As I remember, the dispute was who was responsible for the cost of dealing with the cave that was discovered under the site.

    The government felt it had a case and so did Mr. Barrack and eventually they could not come to an agreement so they went to arbitration. This seems to be a quite normal and legitimate way to handle disputes which are bound to happen from time to time.

    At the end of the day, there is a building to show for the principal cost incurred.

    What do we have to show for the accumulated interest on the unpaid sum, the bulk of which (the interest) is attributable to the failure of the current government to pay a debt that the court decided (during the government’s term) was a legitimate debt of the government.

    Obviously, you are unable to appreciate that it it not just a money issue for which both parties can take a portion of the blame.

    But the issue of governmental lawlessness is rather disturbing and already has had a chilling effect on the investment climate in Barbados.


  33. HAL
    RE We must also get rid of the Barbados Scholarship, which was created in the 1920s for a totally different society.

    Why should the poorly educated pay tens of thousands to educate doctors who treat them like scum?

    CLEARLY YOU DID NOT GET A Barbados Scholarship,BECAUSE YOU ARE A DUMMY. LOL! DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY BDOS SCHOLARS MADE A GOOD CONTRIBUTION TO BIM? DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO THE BDOS SCHOLARS ARE?
    QUESTION Why should the poorly educated pay tens of thousands to educate LAWYERS WHO BECOME POLITICIANS WITH BRAINS THE SIZE OF A PEA WHO DONT LISTEN TO DRS LIKE ME WHO TRIED TO EDUCATE THEM ABOUT HEALTH MATTERS? LOL!


  34. @David

    How does reducing the NIS contribution impact NIS surplus? Do we know?
    ===================
    The NIS has a surplus because it is currently oversubscribed. Matching the contributions more closely to future benefits would reduce the surplus, but that is not a bad thing.

    I have a problem with collecting more money than will be needed to cover future benefits and then using it for another purpose. To me that is tantamount to stealing.

    However, collecting money specifically for higher education seems a sensible option to me. And would stabilize the precarious financial condition of the UWI.

  35. Crazy Horse Jockey Avatar
    Crazy Horse Jockey

    @ David

    Mrs Fowler and the policy holders association have been playing politics with this matter every since and since the bell was rung, they both have upped the ante.

    I don’t condone the comments by Sinckler by politics is the domain of politicians so if you wade into their water expect to get both wet and dirty.


  36. Are we saying Barbados is ready for means testing at the UWI?


  37. @DavidB

    Please explain why did the Actuary recommend to push back retirement age a few years ago if the NIS surplus is excessive. How do we know anyway if financials have not been audited since when.


  38. I have not heard anything about means testing. I think though, that the BLP idea is to collect sufficient funds to finance the current approach of “universal” access.

    However, I have no problem with means testing.

    I have saved money for my daughter’s education since she was born. I don’t say that to boast, but to point out that I never felt it was government’s responsibility to look after her education when I could afford it.

    Alas, however, my daughter wants to do her first degree at UWI and then go on to do her advanced studies in the UK. So, I will still get to partake in the freeness.


  39. @David

    It’s precisely because the actuary’s recommendations were implemented on a timely basis that we are now in the position of surplus. This is one of the very good things that the Arthur administration did.

    The current actuarial estimates are the basis for determining that there is now a surplus. Only the actuaries can determine whether or not a fund such as the NIS has a surplus or deficit, so your question seems a bit odd.

    I am not sure about the status of the audits, but actuarial reviews are done every year on the fund.


  40. @DavidB

    The simple logic is if there is surplus then the NIS contribution should be reduced.


  41. @ David

    That is exactly what I said. And that is what the BLP says it will do.

    The next part is that a levy will be introduced to finance higher education.

    To taxpayers it would not seem any different, but a major social issue would be fixed.


  42. @brek up dem
    “You and Owen Arthur will get a dose of your own medicine”…………………..

    These are moves of a desperate party.

    We have been saying for years that you dems could not defend your record so you would have to resort to the only kind of political game you know, gutter politics.

    Go right ahead, if the DLP was clean, the BLP would be shivering in their boots but alas, you have some DLP ministers whose hands are as dirty as hell.


  43. @ DavidB

    I do have a problem with means testing. It makes a distinction between people who can afford things and people who can’t. everyone will know who the welfare case is and while you think you are doing people a favor you are just stigmatising them and children and young people can be very cruel.
    If everyone does not have to pay you that is one way of leveling the playing field, socially at least.

    I believe a better idea would be to pay for a number of years, say a 3year undergraduate degree either full or 6yr part-time for everyone that wants it and anything beyond that you pay yourself. You can do a similar thing with BCC and SJP complete course free additional courses or repeat years you pay for.

    I however agree 100% on the NIS surplus. If there is one, reduce the contributions.


  44. DAVID GILL IS MAKING SOME SERIES ALLEGATIONS ABOUT THE DRUG SERVICE.
    SAD IF WHAT HE IS SO IS TRUE.
    THIS IS NOT THE WAY I PLANNED IT TO BE
    ITS FUNNY THAT THE ST LUCIANS HAVE COPIED OUR SYSTEM OF POLYCLINICS AND HAVE ADVANCED ON IT!


  45. @Doc GP

    How has St. Lucia advance on the polyclinic model?


  46. @Tired

    I was reflecting on this issue after I wrote my comment about means testing.

    My original position was influenced by my long term determination to save for my daughter’s education. So, I was perhaps suffering from a form of self inflicted myopia.

    But I now realize that the BLP approach encompasses the idea of people paying according to their means without having to deal without the bad affects of means testing. It will be based on the same NIS formula which is a percentage of income up to a certain level . So it will have fairness built in .

    However, the rule would have to be that the children of self-employed persons who do not pay the levy should not be allowed to benefit.


  47. When I say do not pay, I mean refuse to pay.

  48. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ tired of this | February 12, 2013 at 7:32 PM |
    “I believe a better idea would be to pay for a number of years, say a 3year undergraduate degree either full or 6yr part-time for everyone that wants it and anything beyond that you pay yourself.”

    That’s a very socialistic and appealing as far as leveling the playing field is concerned. But where would the money continue to come from to fund this project that not even rich countries can afford? What happens when the economy goes into contraction or even freefall as we could soon witness here in Bim?

    At what point should this so called free entitlement to tertiary education at the University level continue? Should it be sustained even into the second generation of graduates and their progeny when other sectors of the economy and society are under severe stain and about to cave in?


  49. If you indeed want to hear about the issues that you claim are not being discussed by either side, listen to the BLP live stream from Factory Avenue http://www.ustream.tv/channel/blplive

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