@Bush Tea

It is amazing the debt in USA keeps climbing and Romney has promised to allocate trillions more to beefing up the military and this does not resonate in the way it should. There was a time balancing a budget be it at the individual or national level use to be a commonsense decision.

On 6 November 2012 11:36, Barbados Underground

Bushie

Thanks. I do not have time to develop my argument for why Obama deserves to be elected again, but totally from an American context as if I were a thinking american with a history of belligerent presidents starting and continuing wars and covert immoral actions against their people and, in spades, against the best needs of the world. I think Obama has done more in that context than perhaps the previous 4 presidents to justify his reelection and that the cynical racist policy of the GOP, telegraphed from day one, has resulted in this situation.

Check out Rachel Maddow’s opening statements last night on MSNBC on the case for Obama. Its probably on Youtube by now. I disagree with her about the aspects related to the gay agenda but in nothing else.

In my view racism is at the core of the present situation.

Robert Ross; I normally tend to agree with many of the positions you take on BU but definitely not this one. But then I know for a fact that white people in Barbados have been traditionally backers of Republican positions while our majority ethnic group has been predominantly Democrat backers. So I think that some positions on this board are definitely consistent with that linkage and mindset.

We shall see tonight or later what transpires. The polls seem to suggest that Obama at this stage is leading by a nose. I hope that he wins but I won’t be surprised if he loses.

It is boom and bust, economic performance is cyclical. We should not forget that Bill Clinton was in charge when the push for low cost housing was made a political issue and which ultimately led to the sub prime story. A continuum anyone?

On 6 November 2012 12:51, Barbados Underground

Boom and Bust is the way the economy of Barbados operates too . It is a result of Adhocism and a lack of seriousness occasioned by a mendicant attitude and master/servant relationship syndrome.

YES
Vat is a Tax on Tax
Didnt you all know that
Where are you living
There is no logical explanation that is convincing enough for the Vat is charged.
Hey what about Land Tax, the most stupid and unfair Tax ever.

Why are poor people burdened with this heavy load ?

@ Yagga Rowe

Cant believe my eyes
12 million for 3 concrete storage tanks
Whats going on there
…………………………..

My thoughts exactly!
How comes only Jada, Innotech and Mark Maloney are the only contractors getting all the work from this government?
Were we not told that the BLP is the party for white people?
Were we not told by the DLP in their manifesto that small contractors would be given a fair share of the work from government?
Did this work go out to tender?

I am just asking as the 12 million dollar price tag seems rather high!

I am not excited about Obama Presidency, he would not be my first choice but I’d take him over Romney any day.

The middle and poorer classes would bite on iron if Romney made it to the White House. I think he would do everything in his power to do whatever it takes by any means necessary to bring down the deficit, but it would be without a shadow of a doubt at the expense of the middle and poorer classes which will hurting them tremendously.

I think Obama bite off more than he could chew, and it started to choke him, having no cooperation from the opposition.

Romney did’nt deserve a chance!!

Obama is projected to win BUT as the Jamaicans suggested in a news report today what does it mean for the Caribbean?

It is interesting to note that Romney leads in the popular vote BUT the Electoral College does it for Obama.

Was watching CBS and they were wondering why Romney wouldn’t concede and a reporter said that Romney only wrote one speech, so the assumption is that he is working on a rewrite.

The plutocrat is also arrogant to boot.

Hants; mmmmmmm! I misspoke. I really didn’t mean that the latinos did it on their own but that they played a significant role in the results.

Seventy percent of the population is indeed white but ca. 52 % of that population are women, a large proportion of whom are young and resent the GOP’s apparent projection for controlling their bodies re. (family planning) and think that there should be equal pay for equal work; another significant proportion of the white population comprises working males who see the economy as improving; and another cohort that is tired of the GOP inspired wars and another one that thinks that the super rich should contribute more to the economy in taxes.
So this election appears to be showing that there are significant portions of the white population that did not vote for Romney. We know that over 90 % of the afro americans would have voted Obama for several reasons, including race. When you try to dissect out the most significant sector that might have contributed to Obama’s putative victory (since Karl Rove and Romney are not conceding Ohio yet and Donald Trump is calling for a revolution) my very unscientific call is that the Latinos would have played a very significant role since the GOP policies have antagonized most of them (some exit polls suggested this).

There are still about 4 more states to be called, including Florida, But what do I really know? There will be lots of analyses done over the next several days and months and years and will tease out all of the factors that might have led to this result. For now, i’m sticking to my suggestion that the latino vote would have played a significant role.

@David
It is interesting to note that Romney leads in the popular vote BUT the Electoral College does it for Obama
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By the end of the evening that popular vote lead may not hold, but it just shows that Obama’s political operatives were much smarter than Romney’s. They targeted those so called “Swing States” and focused all their time and energy there and it paid big dividends.

Oops read Ohio votes above. not Florida

@ David

Past tense re popular vote…..lmao. California votes gotta get count.

David
The divided House could be a problem and Speaker Boehner is already on record tonight that he will not be amenable to tax increases but in the sober light of the election results he may be obliged to change his attitude.
The Republican leadership was being directed by a rump of Tea Partiers who were elected in 2010 but the Party lost a couple of winnable Senate seats because of the Tea Party.
This was Obama’s last election and he may not be as conciliatory as he was in his first term so the Republicans may give some ground as the country wants the politicians to work together to solve its problems that is why the Obama/Christie partnership after the hurricane was so welcome.

@Hants

Maybe it is Whites voting party.

@Robert Ross

Kind sir, let me say this briefly. You missed my point entirely. You seem either by accident or otherwise to have glossed over my earlier point about the nature of the former priest Romney and how this man of the cloth, your great white hope, this visionary for change in American politics could have employed these cheating tactics, in the face of the US audiences, across the face of 1000’s or US TV stations, inclusive of the Republican propaganda machine FOX 5.

Watch Mr. Ross how your great white hope, in addition to his penguin steps, shows his real colours (otherwise titled “Romney Cheating At Debate” ) see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RQeEx-6wgQ&feature=youtu.be

I guess you and other Romnesians will have some explanation for this thievery too.

The problem with people of your ilk is that you glorify the trials of General Custer against the natives, the struggles of all things/people american, the right of the jews to remember the holocaust and to say, “never again” but let a black man like me intone, sine shame, “in the castle of my skin” and have pride in a black man in the White House and immediately you start to denigrate this using the excuse about failed economic policies. The clown after Clinton fuc** up the surplus didn’t he?

But i do note that this denigration (of things Bajan) is your modus operandi.

You must be seething now that the results of Election 2012 are final.

President Obama, while on a public stage holds his wife, and daughters, with a decorum befitting public embraces of family members. The Queen of England or any other of your acceptable public figures, including your past hopeful Romney, does not stick their tongue into the mouth of their significant other while on a stage.

Live long and prosper.

Obama strikes back with a fiery speech that came from within the belly of an underdog .and a man who understands thatbuilt within the walls of an econmy are the needs of a society and minorities in their vote said YES and once again gave OBAMA a second chance showing that their were willing to a reelect a person based on TRUST and a person with whom they can identify and understood their plight Romney on the other hand delivered a message with policies which were exclusive to the poor and pandereded to the rich n policies which had built in implications and a dismissive attititude towards those in a society who would be impacted negatively by the harsh realities of an economy and a policies which gave hope to a few while leaving the masses to fend for themselves.

Jeff Broomes’ knowledge of US Elections is extensive…..(having lived there)…Morning Bdo’s this morning….his knowledge of last nights outcome, has put CBC resident political analysis to shame…..with her mumbo jumbo which she often offers as political opinion. Well done Jeff!

Congrats, President Obama! You can now show your true mixed ‘colours’ provided you do nothing for the republicans to try to impeach you.

Can we now ask our PM Freundel Stuart to call elections to benefit from the Obama hype? By going into the new year the Obama reelection effect would have dissipated.
Selling the residual BNB shares would give us only a month forex breathing space before the IMF wolves come to our financial shores.

The fact that Boston’s Logan airport had to accommodate moe than 80 corporate jets yesterday says it all.

@ Miller

I know your game and like it.

Our sleeping giant cannot be compared to Obama, who is a true giant and is alive, awake and in control (though he went to sleep for the first debate).

1. Obama was handed a totally wrecked economy, the DLP was handed an economy with low unemployment, $2.8 billion in foreign reserves and a current expenditure surplus. Our foreign reserves are now being depleted at an alarming rate and government has to borrow $50 million a month to pay its current bills.

2. The US economy was haemorrhaging jobs and Obama created 5.5 million net. In Barbados the government found unemployment at 6.7% now it’s heading for more than double that, with us losing about 18,000 public sector jobs so far.

3. Obama give the middle class a tax cut while the Barbadian middle class has been decimated by taxes and energy price gouging by the government.

4. Obama moved to control the cost of healthcare and make it more accessible. Our government has increased healthcare costs and make it less accessible to people who have been paying taxes in Barbados for decades.

5. Despite an opposition with the power to block his policies, Obama has shown real leadership. Where is the leadership shown by the PM?

6. The economy of the US, though it is weak, is. showing signs of recovery and growth. Our government has burdened our productive sectors with onerous taxes and energy prices, so our economy is now stagnated: More than 30 hotels shut down and dozens of businesses in the offshore sector gone, manufacturing at a standstill.

7. Obama relied on an economic stimulus which was certainly more successful than the austerity measures that abound in Europe. We chose the path of austerity .

8. Obama continues to offer hope; our government offers hopelessness.

And, I can go on and on.

So, yes, PM Stuart should try to benefit from the hype of the Obama win and call the election now.

And yes hiw about the jewish vote with another Obama presidency they too have much to ponder as they lack of support for his foreign oplicy took them out in droves to viote against him but it was all ior naught as the minorties did also send them a message

I am not surprised that since the 6 Nov 2012, on this particular thread, that both Miller and Onions have stayed clear of commenting on the outcome of the USA election results.

Many of us here on BU site are not surprised. As I was reminded by an unrepentant BLPite this morning – First it was A for AMERICA then B for BARBADOS.

Victory for the INCUMBENT party.

Obama prevailed so too will our GIANT…Freundel.

Yes, Onions 5 more years for the BLP in Opposition.