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Mia Mottley MP

A word of explanation to this title is necessary for the benefit of non-Barbadians.ย  A fly-stick is a “trap” set by young boys in Barbados to ensnare wild birds, it is not a good practice, should not be condoned and can never be justified but in this scenario it serves the purpose.ย  The Ground-dove (Columbina-passerina) is a small bird with a gentle nature whose velvet-smooth feathers, beautiful colouring and sharp reflexes makes it a joy to behold in its natural habitat.ย  To wish harm to a Ground-dove is akin to one who sets out to kill a mocking bird.

Owen Arthur – The Master Tactician – with a velvet glove smoothness and a deft touch of which only he is capable, has given Mia Mottley the opportunity – we are told – to reply to Chris Sinckler in the Estimates Debate.ย  When the surprise of this manoeuvre left the faces of political commentators and the head scratching subsided.ย  The question asked was why?ย  To have been so daringly bold and to think beyond the expected, with the agility of mind to play a stroke of genius is why I gave Owen Arthur the title The Master Tactician some years ago.ย  Perhaps now at last those followers of politics in Barbados will get a deeper understanding of what I meant.

You have to make an offer in your own interest, yet so attractive that the person to whom it is made thinks it is a wonderful opportunity….pure genius.

How should Mia Mottley play this one.ย  She is clever that is beyond doubt and has a feel for the common touch.ย  She should play it from the “heart” and connect with the electorate, be statesman-like and hold her ground.ย  The Nation expects and Mia can deliver.

Rarely has so much rested on the words of a Barbados politician.ย  Many will be watching as victory will surely come to the one who plays the best hand.ย  As for Owen Arthur he is in the ring but there is no need for him to lace up his gloves.


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  1. old onion bags Avatar

    Who would put back these CLOWNS?..tell me

    THIS IS THE WORST ADMINISTRATION EVER IN THE HISTORY OF BARBADOS…I LIE ???

  2. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    I hope the unemployment figures reopens the debate on the methods used to estimate the unemployment. I think that was the essence of the point Sinckler was trying to raise yesterday, not trying to make a claim that jobs were up as the paper’s headline said today.

  3. old onion bags Avatar

    @ Sarge
    In case you forget….true dat..that stench that will be emitting….. will be coming ….. from the tomb in St.John parish church yard ! It still GOT TO BE AIRED…..so rightly said.

  4. old onion bags Avatar

    Trained Economist…man declare you hand man…if you want any creditability.. WHO YOU IS ?..
    or you want Onions declare he is a Doctor of Sexology ?


  5. TAKE OFF EXTRA FUEL CHARGE:
    I must agree with this suggestion. As a matter of fact I think we would all agree with it. The cost of fuel has a direct impact on the coast of living. Since the BNOC’s debt is now cleared, the extra charge shoulg be removed.As was stated in the artical of the Daily Nation March 13, 2012 page 17, if the extra charge is removed, it would put more money in the pockets of Barbadians, which would inturn drive the economyof this nation. It does seem to me that, the cost of living has been influenced more so by Government policy, than by outside influences.

    Just to note: I am neither a supporter of BEE or DEM. I just call it as I see it, and as I see it THE EXTRA FUEL CHARGE HAS TO GO! And it needs to go NOW !!!


  6. @all

    For the sake of those who are Independents on the blog can we try to make substantive points although our partisan positions are fully known?

    @Trained Economist

    The lack of financial literacy and acumen remains unacceptable given our touted level of education. How difficult is it, using stats 101 – to interpret an issue where the underlying issue is about the use of methodology? We had the same issue in the headline a few days ago “1 billion gap” which was malicious in the prevailing climate.

  7. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    David I think the paper can do much better than it has on these financial matters. In 2012 how can our leading paper write about estimates in such a simplistic manner is beyond me.


  8. @Trained Economist

    Then you should not read the Editors Note in this week’s Business Authority.

  9. Observing (not to be confused with Observer) Avatar
    Observing (not to be confused with Observer)

    @Trained Economist

    Have we ever witnessed a 2% turnaround in unemployment in one quarter? Particularly when the “engines” of the economy and government were stagnant or not firing?

  10. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    I have some difficulty seeing the fuel charge purely in terms of BNOC. We are now dealing with oil likely to be around $80 or more for the foreseeable future. How can we incentivize the economy to adjust to this new environment? I am not sure how a fuel subsidy helps in this respect. I would also be concerned about the potential impact on forex reserves.

    Onion bags, I am trying to understand the issues we face as a nation today and use my commonsense and learning to help me. I am not some puppet to have my strings pulled by the media or parry politics.

    I see we have a set of choices before us.

    We can try to drive growth from domestic consumption by giving an ease on fuel, VAT and entertainment allowances. This will benefit us all in the short-term as we will have more money in our pockets to spend, and it can certainly drive growth and employment. This approach is clearly very appealing but it to err om the side of risking the forex reserves in an environment where the oil price is high and heading higher and tourism spend is flat.

    The alternative is to seek to protect forex by keeping fiscal policy tight and work with the growth from the foreign exchange earning sectors. In terms of the long term health of the economy and the current economic environment I prefer the choice of erring on the side of protecting reserves.

    I also believe that we need to embrace Alternative Energy and Agriculture in a major way as distinct from seeking this consumption led growth.

  11. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    Of course there is room for compromise between the two positions and I await the budget to see where the government goes.

  12. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ insurancebarbados | March 13, 2012 at 9:10 AM |
    “I am neither a supporter of BEE or DEM. I just call it as I see it, and as I see it THE EXTRA FUEL CHARGE HAS TO GO! And it needs to go NOW !!!”

    You have made a suggestion worthy of discussion. I can agree with its removal from the fuel to generate electricity and on diesel for commercial use in order to lower the cost on domestic electricity bills and the cost of doing business especially in transportation. However, I would not extend this reduction to gasoline or diesel at the pump for private vehicles. The fuel surcharge that would remain on gasoline and diesel for domestic use should be earmarked to help fund the expansion and further technological development of alternative energy solutions. Why not use the surcharge on gasoline to set up a very low interest loan and grant facility to be made available to small businesses and household to help them transition to alternative energy solutions. Integrated systems to generate both hot water and electricity can be the next major tax saving incentive for householders. Importation of smaller and more efficient vehicles using electricity or non-fossil fuels (mixture of gas and some other fuel, ethanol for example) attracting much lower tariffs can also be considered.

  13. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    Observing that is exactly the point I have been trying to make. the issue is more to do with the methodology for computing the rate. You know statistcially nothing has really happended, the rates published are all within the confidence interval.

    maybe there was never really a jump from 10-12 in a single three month period. Statistical errors have a way of cancelling out with repeated sampling.

    Persons seem to be showing their bias in that when the rate jumped 2% in one quarter they were quick to seize on it as accurate and berate the Central bank for questioning it in light of other data. The view espoused then on this blog and in the nation newspaper was that the stats department is the only authority to speak on unemployment, central bank should shut up and we should accept the number. Now the same stats department is reporting a 2% decline in one quarter we are suddenly supposed to buttress the number published by the stats department with our own sense of whats going on around us.

    This has been an interesting four years.

  14. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    But miller the current system allows the very categories you speak off to access petroleum products at subsidized prices.

    Insurance, there is also the tiny matter of trying to stave off another downgrade. The ratings agencies will not respond well to any perceived softening of the fiscal stance.

  15. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @Trained Economist | March 13, 2012 at 11:06 AM |
    “But miller the current system allows the very categories you speak off to access petroleum products at subsidized prices.”

    I am not clear what you are on about in regard to your statement above.
    Just for sake of clarity, are you tell us that there is no fuel surcharge on the diesel bought by BL&P?
    We know the transport Board and the PSV sector have access to the “privilege pump’. But what about the other commercial vehicles used in construction, goods delivery to the various retail outlets and taxi operators?

    Are they exempt from or can they reclaim the fuel surcharge?
    And lastly, what is the fuel surcharge used for other than liquidating BNOCL debt? Does any of it find its way into the Treasury for co-mingling with “ordinary’ tax revenues?

    Just Asking on behalf of ordinary BU readers!

    PS: Hey, “anthony”, what’s up? We need you to turn on the electric light and counter some of this ‘trained economist’ political propaganda so we can see the true picture.


  16. an interesting point made by Sinckler indicates Governemnt will see out its full term to the end of March 2013. The question is will the temporary truce in BLP infighting and in particular OSA last that long. No early election for Owen, Pain and Gail.
    The decline in unemployment is welcome news and not surprising along the ABC highway from Warrens to Sobers roundabout I counted 10 major construction projects, amazing in Barbados recession hit economy.

  17. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    Miller I will try and get you the exact details on the subsidy program before i post so i don’t get accused of political propoganda.

    In all the analysis and critique no one is pointing out that the BWA no longer needs a subsidy. So right now BWA and CBC are not a burden to the tax payer. That seems like progress to me. where are the fair minded commentators?


  18. Interesting to note Mia’s reference to expanding the International Business Sector. She asserts the carry cost is less than the Tourism Sector. Is such a strategy worthy of debate?


  19. meant Warrens to Graeme Hall where road widening is under construction a bit past Sobers roundabout.

  20. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    Porter | March 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM |
    “The decline in unemployment is welcome news”.

    Just remember that there are three types of lies: “Lies, damned lies and statistics”.
    That % statistic 10 12, or whatever is just what it is. It does not include the long-term unemployed and those who have decided to drop out of the system. Only those receiving unemployment benefits or actively looking for work. Look around Barbados any day in the week and you would see the wasted talent and potential labour force idling their time away.


  21. millertheanunnaki
    no comment on 10 major construction projects just between Warrens and Graeme Hall?


  22. Minister Byer-Suckoo has denied interference by Cabinet in the decision by NIS to invest in Paradise Beach Development. Can she explained why was the board summons to Government House on the matter?

  23. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    Porter | March 13, 2012 at 12:30 PM |
    “millertheanunnaki:no comment on 10 major construction projects just between Warrens and Graeme Hall?

    Not yet! Just waiting to see if these concrete and steel edifices will be fitted with solar panels or small wind turbines. This area is nearly within our major water table zone. Are we going to see water sustainable facilities and so-called green economy features?
    Let us see if government has mandated these new arrivals to the concrete jungle to put their money where they talk is.


  24. Trained economist you are spot on with your analysis and pointing out to these BLPities that the old fiscal way of doing business is not the way to go in stagnant economy

  25. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David | March 13, 2012 at 12:54 PM |

    Maybe if we can get the marshal(l) to do a Peter Wickham we might just get a hint of the reason.

  26. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac | March 13, 2012 at 1:07 PM |
    “Trained economist you are spot on with your analysis and pointing out to these BLPities that the old fiscal way of doing business is not the way to go in stagnant economy.”

    True, very true! A new economic paradigm or way of doing business is already upon us. We will need to jettison the old rule book starting with the 2008 DLP Manifesto of largesse, handouts and “welfarism”.
    Maybe you can make a similar call for the BLP’s book of false promises.
    See, I can see out of both eyes! What about you, ac?

  27. old onion bags Avatar

    Onion bags, I am trying to understand the issues we face as a nation today and use my commonsense and learning to help me. I am not some puppet to have my strings pulled by the media or parry politics.
    *********************************************

    HELLO HELLO Mr. Trained Economist…I know you like many others in here feel Onions is just a BLP born and bred….but alike you Onions was once a DLP for more years than I care to recall.Onions went to the Hill in the time of FUNDY, Ralph Gonsalves,,Marson,DT,and like..completed economics up third year too….but majored in something else…fully qualified .Making full use thankfully of EWB free education plan.

    Point is that being even a more balanced eye than most, I have lived to see the D’s make a complete about turn to earlier days. What we have seen in recent times is a circus of inepts, trying to do what is completely out of their depths..and making a meal out of it to the disadvantage of poor people.
    How in gracious name could you a trained economist say nothing on the continuation of not subsidizing gas prices when people are at dying ends to make end meet?. How D hell could Govt ( thru BARNOC) could hold out …making profits at our expense ($100 million in a year ) …with no remorse whatsoever….sending up fuel prices in tandem with bottle gas….whipping the hell out the middle class and poor arses? How D hell you a trained economist could standby and see a tin a mackerel being sold from once $1.89 now $4.67 (poor people food man) a sardine $2.09 a tin of corn beef $4.25.?..watlessness man…..ALL THESE PRICE INCREASES DIRECTED TO THE POOR..cuddear carson…it’s shameful…and these brute driving bout BMW’s and Jag’s and still Jesse- James-ing on and about CLICO money funds that pensioners put up for rainy days….Am I not truthfully neutral enough for ya ?Have I not used my lil common sense to analyze ?
    Is that sufficient releasing of all party strings for ya Mr. Economist ?


  28. Good question Onion, trying to understand this Barbados National Oil Company growing P&L and how we need to factor it in the equation. Trained Economist we need to hear you on this point.

  29. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    Is BNOC 100% percent government owned?


  30. The winner in chest is the person who commits the second-to-last mistake. This is something FS, CS, OSA and MAM understand and appreciate when it comes to Four Seasons.

    Poor Tony Marshall, you have to feel for a fellow who takes comfort in a promise from a minister or ministers and then acts in an official capacity pleased to be able to help-out the promisor only to realise that when he signed (the Four Seasons deal) he signed his own death warrant.

    Congratulations Mr. Marshall you have a wonderful piece of costume jewellery around your neck, its called a fake NIS-Four Seasons deal.


  31. @Trained Economist

    It is government owned.

  32. old onion bags Avatar

    D flystick like it hold Marshall…looka mah crosses.

  33. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    if bnoc is 100% government owned then the pricing policy is part of the carrots and sticks approach to energy policy put in pIace by the administration. In light of this whether or not a loan is paid off or bnoc is making a profit (which is effectively government revenue, remember the deficit ans the credit rating) I stick to my earlier position.
    the price of petroleum products is going to be high for the foreseeable future and we must adjust. the squeeze is currently tight I agree and i am feeling it. but as a result of the high cost (the stick) i am beginning to make adjustments in terms of my household energy use, I am actively exploring an alternative energy solution (hoping to take advantage of the carrots) at home and fuel efficiency will be a major factor when i change vehicles. If this ease is granted as we are all clamoring for i might not bother about these adjustments and stick to my old lifestyle and choices.


  34. If the government is intended to use the strategy you suggest the RE policy should have been more aggressively implemented. We should have been further along four years hence. Wither the Wind Farm at Lamberts? What about the rider to encourage consumers to feed BL&P grid?

    Lastly if what you say is the policy why has the government not seen the value is rolling out a communications strategy to apprise Bajans? Would it not deflate much of the rhetoric floating in the public domain?

  35. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Trained economist:

    You know very well that BNOCL is government owned. Anybody following the oil prices debate on this Blog for the last 12 months will know that BNOCL is owned and controlled by the State.
    So what’s the real intent of your ‘redundant’ question?

  36. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    onion bags I have learnt to focus on the arguments and not the blogger. so i don’t respond to yours or anyone’s post from my sense of their politics. too much of our public discussion is based on personalities and perceived affiliation rather than the argument being advanced.

  37. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    I cannot speak for government pr, thats outside my competencies.

    There has been a lot of movement on the alternative energy policy framework over the last four years. There are now major tax deductions, duty free imports, the Smart energy Fund and the pilot scheme with BL&P. I have investigated the scheme with light and power for personal reasons and in terms of the rider and it is very attractive. the issue for some is clarity as to what the rider will be after the pilot project is over. The government should move quickly to provide clarity on this if more people are to sign up for the pilot scheme.

    In my discussions with BL&P, they indicate that while there has not been a lot of take up on the pilot scheme, a substantial number of players in Bim have gone off the grid and are using an alternative energy solution.

    Tenders have already been put out for a number of public buildings to be fitted with alternative energy solutions. It would be a shame if the same old money people are the ones who will grab this new area while we clamor for a return to subsidies.

  38. G.C. Brathwaite Avatar
    G.C. Brathwaite

    Looking at the member for St. James Central provides a synopsis of the DLP: they are maimed and looking at Barbados through one eye that focusses on self and not the people. They are stressing the creation of a society and failing to see from their one eye that you need to build an economy that can take care of the needs of the society.
    For them with the one eye set on the Paris network, they see big people and big money, but fail to see the small man, ordinary bajans, the small contractors, the marginalised and disabled.
    Thanks to Mr. George Hudson, we know that the DLP is a one-eyed government with no political will to do what is right for the majority of Barbadians.

  39. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @Green Places | March 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM |

    Now that you have mentioned Four Seasons, what is the state of play with that project?

    It seems as if the good โ€œprofessorโ€ has jumped ship too. After pocketing huge fees with nothing to show for his pay, he has, it appears, abandoned the project just like the original developers. Leaving the โ€œeverybody hates Chrisโ€ inheritance from the dead DT bรชte noire to swim, sink or turn to rust. One would have taught that all these millions floating around the likes of L P and the queen of the East would have created private companies to clean their โ€œsuspect- gotten gains via the investment route in the 4 Seasons project.
    Maybe the fired marshal can be used as the fall guy and can be put before the firing squad of political expediency.
    But what about the Finance and Economics self-acclaimed guru professor?
    Just heard him on the BBC World radio programme โ€œworld have your sayโ€ (WHYS) doing what he does best:-โ€œtalkingโ€. Talking about the UK governmentโ€™s proposal to introduce to a small tax/fee on certain financial transactions to help defray the cost of the various bailouts and shore up pensions and other deferred income funds.
    He has probably returned to Academia after lining his pockets with easy money from the stupid Bajans. He was gentlemanly referred to by the person hosting the programme as โ€œa fellowโ€ at the London Business School.

    Maybe โ€œacโ€ or โ€œ!โ€ the two senior communications specialists at the George St. Auditorium (or even the โ€œtrained economistsโ€) can let us know if the goodly โ€˜professoreโ€™ is still involved with the 4 Seasons controversy and when can we see a restart of the project promised since September 2010.

  40. old onion bags Avatar

    Mr.Trained Economist…..you got a lotta talk….playing star boy and all …so wait what really is your role besides looking like john wayne….I ask you already to come clean and not like Marshall who now get ee neck pop.
    So far ya ain’t proffer ..not one solution….just explanation plasters fa the present Gov’t sores…How we don’t know they aint send you ? Why you can’t do like George Brathwaite or Justin Robinson and spell ya name / Are you from the IMF ? Tells us these things man… Trojan or Neofite ?

  41. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    my solution is carrots and sticks on energy policy to push alternative energy.

    my solution is a tight fiscal policy to preserve forex and the investment grade credit rating.

    I am definitely not IMF. you notice how the nation and others have elevated the IMF to oracle of delphi status.

  42. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @Trained Economist | March 13, 2012 at 2:43 PM |
    “Tenders have already been put out for a number of public buildings to be fitted with alternative energy solutions.”

    As I indicated before I am not against the retention of the subsidy. But it should not be continually imposed on fuels that make up significant cost inputs to those products and services that make up a large percentage of the consumption pattern of poor people (food, utilities, public transportation). What about the โ€œordinaryโ€ householders who cannot afford the upfront cost of investing in alternative energy solutions? Should they be part of the vanguard to bring about a โ€œgreener economy and environmentโ€? Canโ€™t low cost loans or strict grants with strict conditionalities be made available and financed through the fuel surcharge on gasoline and diesel for private vehicles?

    Just to clarify: Are these tenders for the actual retro-fitting of solar electricity generating systems or are these just invitations to conduct surveys and studies? We are eager to know the actual purpose and requirements of the tenders- so refer us to the tender document. It would be interesting to find out if it calls for: โ€œto survey and actually do (install)โ€ or โ€œto study and recommend various courses of actionโ€ (to be another useless report prepared by some Party favoured consultant).

  43. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    old onion bags you must know that battening down and riding the storm is a valid approach. now that we have had some stability we can begin to look out and try a thing.

    However, the global recovery is tepid at best, the rating agencies got us by the balls, and we are stuck with the debt overhang from the debt buildup due to the massive off budget public investment program (highway, judicial center, cost guard base, kensington and cricket world cup, prison) now brought on budget and the policy of no layoffs and only minor adjustments with the entitlement programs over the last three years.

    As mia said, there is little or no ficsal space. as sinckler said trying to drive growth from local consumption risks the exchange rate peg. We need to embrace alternative energy, embrace agriculture, seek efficiencies in the delivery of our treasured social programs, exploit our strengths in tourism (luxury segment and seek to develop heritage tourism). We should not be harking back to a glory day of a property led boom and domestic consumption.

    As I think it was someone called Ellis Chase posted some time ago, much of the policy framework has been laid but the elites in bim want another shot at the glory days of property booms and consumption rather than accept that the environment has been fundamentally altered and begin the slow and painful work of building out a new economy.


  44. @Miller

    The challenge posed by your suggestion to exempt commercial enterprises from paying gas surcharge then the carrot and stick approach becomes compromised. It is the commercial sector that has to lead the transformation no?

  45. old onion bags Avatar

    WHAT THEY SPEND D $5 BILLION ON ?????…….Bus fares ? Summer Camps ?, Constituency councils,?Signs ? CLICO ? CHINA ?..what what …The question again is asked…..Coventry Houses ?..NO..that belong ta a white man..so not dat …what they spend the $$$$$ ON ..Mr.Speaker ? Parties ?Foot ball ? Blackman Gollop School …ye sire…Help me Mr. Trained Economist …any more Onions and Duguid missed ?

  46. old onion bags Avatar

    Look Economist…you don’t FOOL Me one bit…..stop calling my name…You just like the man now speaking…..A POSER porno…..wanna aint do SH #1..but rob and theif …..endogenously….Horse and carrot my ass…..you all are an insult ! An abomination to this county…..tell Donville he made a living from spreading nuff disgusting-ness on the nett. He would know these tings..

  47. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    Come on Onion bags you can read the estimates for the figures.

  48. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David | March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM |

    Agree that the commercial sector needs to be in the forefront of change. But imposing additional costs would not translate into any meaningful transformation or changes in habits. Just remember that all costs imposed on businesses are eventually passed on and borne by the final consumers. Businesses do not pay taxes, they just collect from consumers and pay into the Treasury some of them and hopefully most). All costs (including the profit element) are included in the final price charged to consumers. So it is the consumers who are fully bearing the fuel surcharges. What is required is for government to establish a legislative and enforceable framework buttressed by tax regimes which provide incentives and possible punitive sanctions or deterrents to current behaviour. It must also be the model and embodiment of the path to the way forward (leading by example). If the government does not set a good example then it canโ€™t haul the private/commercial sector over the coals.


  49. @Miller

    Perhaps your way is another policy option and would have worked better in ‘time’ of plenty when ‘time’ was on our side.


  50. The Democratic Labour Party will lose the next Election .
    Freundel Stuart knows that

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