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Oldest building in Bridgetown…c.1650 – Dr. Karl Watson

The following was posted by Dr. Karl Watson on his Facebook Page. BU crafted the title of the post.

This is the oldest building in Bridgetown…c.1650. As you can see, it is Dutch inspired and would look quite in place in Amsterdam or Willemstad. It was one of the linchpins of our World Heritage application/dossier. Because it is a metaphor for Dutch/English commercial conflict and the subsequent emergence of the English/British dominated North Atlantic system, it deserves iconic status. It stands as a tangible/monumental beacon, explaining why it was that the first of a series of Navigation Acts was passed by the English Parliament…directed largely against the relative free trade which Barbados was enjoying with Holland. Within the context of British economic history/the trading arrangements of the British Empire, it is possibly the most important building in the English speaking Caribbean…a lonely survivor from the seventeenth century, having survived the many fires which devastated Bridgetown.

It has just changed hands and this picture and one to follow show some “renovation” work being done. My brother took this on Sunday gone. If you zoom in, you will see that the Dutch curvilinear gable is being filled in with wet cement. One of the quoins (those white bricks on the side of the building) has been irreparably damaged. You can see a mason on the scaffolding cutting away a parapet…this fell block by block as we watched and pleaded with the workers and owner that what was being done was contrary to the ideals of authenticity and integrity which inform/govern the World Heritage listing. Such work actually puts our recent World Heritage listing in jeopardy. Mine is a lonely voice crying in the wilderness. If you respect and understand these monumental relics of our past…if you can see through the neglect and garbage to what Bridgetown has the capacity to attain, because all is not lost…then talk about it…repost this…call in the radio programmes, write to the press….individuals pleading for sanity by themselves have their voices drowned out or are seen as mere evidence of some strange eccentricity. Many people shouting with the same voice are heard and are listened too…action will follow when the public demands it.

Related Link: Barbados Enters World Heritage List With Bridgetown And Its Garrison Inscribed


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104 responses to “Guarding Our World Heritage Listing”


  1. @ Island Gal
    “Baffy I know yuh ent nuh woman hater like BT and Scout”
    @BAFBFP
    tourists are looking for they could shove what they are prepared to spend up their pretty little fannies …..
    Also:@ Nia

    I am so hot for you right now …!
    __________________________________________________________

    This man is so into himself that I bet he’s having to type with only his left hand. Island Gal you honestly think that these and other expressions from “Baffy” show that he is not a woman hater? When the tourists stop coming (and they will), and BAFBFP is grovelling around looking for something to eat, it will be for sure somebody else’s fault. Anyhow, how come he’s not communicating in Yoruba or some other African language? Steupse!


  2. Yeah … uhum … yeah … uhum …yeah … yeah … yeah .. yes … yeas .. YES … YES .. YES … MY GOD YES … YY EE SSS …!

    Whoo …!

    Thnx Steupse! I needed that …! Whoo


  3. Don’t waste your time Nia…that is an exercise in futility!

    @ David…

    Who owns the building?


  4. @BAFBFP

    I am shocked to think that you can’t follow the relevance of my points! I have more faith in your capability than you seem to have yourself! SAD

    All this just because you could NOT convince me that Castro and his Cuba have failed miserably compared with the smaller and less resource rich Lee’s Singapore!
    HINT….dont fight unwinable arguments…… you are good BUT not that good!


  5. Almost all discussions in Barbados appear to lead to White vs Black, when there is no need. The downside to this is when there is an issue of race with serious implications, it becomes trivial because of the expected glibness.

    I will look at only a few World Heritage Sites to get a feel of what it means.

    The Ruins of Great Zimbabwe: They are only ruins but they are built of stone and were there a long time before Europeans came to Africa. They echo a great past of African skill and knowledge, we would not have known of them if a Chief had said destroy them, they are only uninhabited stone dwellings.

    The Tower Of London: “The imprisonment of Edward v and his younger brother in the 15th Century, and then in the 16th Century of Four English queens, three of them executed on Tower Green – Ann Bloeyn, Catherine Howard and Jane Grey – with only Elizabeth 1 escaping, shaped English History. The Tower was known as a place of torture and execution”. Does that mean her Majesty The Queen would not visit the place because her relatives were executed there ,should she petition to have the Tower razed to the the ground.

    Robben Island: Where Nelson Mandella was imprisoned for some twenty years. Should it be destroyed because one of the most well known men in the world suffered there.

    “The buildings of Robben Island bear eloquent witness to its sombre history.

    Robben Island and its prison buildings symbolize the triumph of the human spirit, of freedom and of democracy over oppression”.

    World Heritage Sites are about sustaining the great “diversity of the interactions between humans and their environment to protect living traditional cultures and preserve the traces of those which have disappeared, those sites called cultural landscapes have been inscribed on the World Heritage List.”

    The lesson for us is to learn from what has happened, and to assist when and where we can. We should not forget the past but not be weighed down by it, to an extent that it prevents our forward movement. We can “never” erase History but we owe it to those who have suffered to see issues in a clear light….and have the clearness of mind to acknowledge the contributions they made, because “we know” the circumstances of their contributions.


  6. @NIA
    Where did I say that I love those groups and NOT the African, Black, Bajan my bros and sistas I grew up with at home, in the village and school in BIM ????

    Orientals are peeps from the East and Occidentals are people from the West….there IS nothing to be offended about! It is hardly a historically nasty word like the N word. My wife is Oriental! She is PROUD of it too!

    I don’t have the time with all this research so why don’t (did’nt you) you make your point?

    I have spent many years close to Bajan’s of colour and I am highly qualified to coach anyone including Bajan’s and Black peeps in the methods of success and the AVOIDANCE of wasteful energy reducing tirades that ain’t going to lead to self improvement.( may help ease frustration tho).

    You want me to conduct research BUT the Cbean has been independent for 45yrs + and surely the history books have been rewritten by Black authors by now, if NOT why not???? I thought that History books at HC in the 1970s were thus produced.

    Are you going to blame whitey because the newspapers , teachers, parents in Bim have NOT fostered the right concept of SELF for Black kids????
    45yrs is a long time to be Independent of the colonisers and Aug 1 st 1834 is 177 yrs back. I would have believed that progress in this respect had been accomplished. It seems that darker peeps are holding some very lofty positions in Bim and acquitting themselves very well in medicine, law, business etc. Admittedly the politicians for the most part are failing the populace by needless partisan nonsense just like their former colonisers and the US!


  7. NO! NO! BAF do not burn those buildings. let them stand there as a constant reminder to the children and their grandchildren of those whose foreparents perpetrated crimes against humanity and was rewarded for doing so,After all :Deadmen do tell tales”


  8. @Technician

    Will try to find out.


  9. s
    David | January 12, 2012 at 12:53 AM |
    Barbadians were promised when the World heritage status was received that a massive communications campaign would have been rolled out to sensitize everyone. There was even the promise of a website and access to the voluminous document which was prepared by Barbados to acquire the designation. Where are we with this promise? It is not enough to get the designation which seems to be contrived more than out of a culture of valuing and being sensitive to the environment.
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    But David you know full well that we are a 9-day wonder society. We are also a nation that does not believe in Planned Maintenance or Maintenance of any kind. We see it daily with a shortage of vehicles in key sectors. We are in the midst of a Leptospirosis scare and the Sanitation Service Authority is suffering from a shortage of trucks,causing a build up of garbage all across the island.
    So, true to form, the World Heritage Status will surely be taken from us, if we do not get our fingers out and start working.The only way that we might save the status of the Garrison is by incorporating the Pioneer Company/Platoon of the BDF into the maintenance plans for the Garrison.


  10. David | January 12, 2012 at 1:30 AM |
    @BAFBFP

    Aren’t you the one always crying about the need to focus on assets which generate forex? Don’t you think the oldest building in Barbados adds to the brand and or product we have and therefore lends appeal to the potential visitor? Who by the way spends forex when they visit? Also is it not a positive to create a culture of preserving our history? History is history it does not matter how it was created
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    I had the pleasure of visiting Israel. Many of the old buildings in Jerusalem and Israel in general, were built by the Romans or others , who the Jews detested up to this day, judging from the frothing of the mouth of our Jewish guide,during his commentary when we visited places like Masada, but never once were we discourage from paying a fee to visit these places.
    Like the lady on Bush Hill said ,on a hard night , when a certain potential jockey approached, ” ……….he does smell too damn musty, but ah need the little dollar.”


  11. My! My! We getting on our high horses about who sold whom.,and how bad slaves were treated. Are we the same people who in the 21 Century of the Year of our Lord, take our elders to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital and dump them there like a sack of garbage?


  12. @Colonel Buggy

    Now don’t go there Colonel you are getting personnel. Under what circumstances a person does what in a family relation has no place in this discussion.


  13. All this talk is a bare joke…..
    At the end of the day, someone owns the building and doesn’t give a shit about Heritage. They seeing $$$….why not find out and deal with that person(s) and leave the insults to others on BU for the owner?
    Maybe the owner will shock us….maybe not.


  14. Techie

    Is right of course. The same is also true about The Globe and Empire Cinemas. And Techie believe it or not the same also held true for the stupid George Washington House whose previous owner made a pretty piece off of the GOB in the process. By the way he is an ex-politician.


  15. Colonel Buggy

    The Jews you talking ’bout really ain’ got nah real claim to Israel hear … So hush wid that example.

    And it is about time that you and David understand that all this World Heritage nonsense was simply about finding something for the many senior executives in the Ministry of Culture to do and having an excuse to travel and see the world … that is all, that is all, that is all …


  16. nis-is-in

    What the hell did you expect. The NIS CANNOT afford to keep peoples money in cash or fixed deposits with inflation and interest rates as they are, and there are NO real investment opportunities around to put the money in. This project is long term so it is the very best option available right now


  17. I admire passion and taking positions based on the courage of one’s convictions. I am glad that so many people have taken the time to respond to this posting and that a debate has ensued. Angela Ifill makes a point and asks a valid question when she posted the following: “This heritage thing to me is a load of crap. Whose heritage? The colonizers?” Among the exam questions I set in the recently concluded Caribbean History and Heritage course in the M.A. Heritage programme at Cave Hill, UWI was this one: Explain why heritage issues in the Caribbean are at best often hotly contested or at worst, ignored as being irrelevant to a modern Caribbean.
    A rudimentary content analysis of the postings here on this topic show that the variable of race has assumed greatest prominence. Whether we agree or not with modern anthropological thinking that there is no scientific justification to apply the concept of race to humanity…homo sapiens….we must all acknowledge that race does infiltrate and factor into our emotions, our thought processes and our discourse. So BAFBFP has posted “I say burn Islandgal and Carl Hudson, all the Guardians of White Heritage and their lackeys.” A succinct statement designed to set the cat among the pigeons from a master agent provocateur. Undoubtedly there may be some, hopefully not many, who hold this view…I don’t relish the thought of being the victim in a modern day auto da fe. …but then I am not Carl Hudson nor am I the “Guardian of White Heritage.”
    Let us look at the idea of White Heritage. This view is firmly held by some and has hampered the work of the Barbados National Trust. We are commonly seen as a group of elderly, white, elitist dogooders, hell bent of preserving questionable aspects of a dismal past. My first statement as incoming President two years ago, was that I wanted to challenge this perception and change the image of the Trust to one of an organization working for ALL Barbadians and not just a select few.
    I may have been raised and be seen as a white Barbadian, but as I have often pointed out, my great grand mother was a quadroon and I too have ancestors who survived the Middle Passage. My roots are in the Bayland where I was raised in a chattel house so any claims to my elitist status are founded on perception and not reality. Yes, I was born into a Barbados where issues of race and class merged, creating a shadowy mix of subterfuge, denial, manipulation and anger. One of my earliest memories is of playing with a “white” neghbour’s children, and of being directed to the kitchen door while they went through the front door. Needless to say, my mother forbade me from ever visiting that house again. Having been a victim then and on several other occasions, I do not consider myself so insensitive or ill informed as to push exclusively the idea of “White Heritage.” Like Dreyfus, I too can say, “J’accuse.”
    It may very well be that I argued erroneously, when I persuaded then Prime Minister Owen Arthur to invest scarce Barbadian resources in restoring the George Washington House or now, as in the present case of the Nicholls Building, decrying the loss of integrity of this historic structure and pointing out the possible negative results this could have for our World Heritage listing.
    If I am mistaken, then don’t immolate me. It was the power of my convictions and my genuine desire for a better Barbados which lead me down this trajectory.
    There are gloomy days ahead. All Barbadians rely excessively on the income derived from tourism in order to survive. Even when we think that we have no links to the tourist sector or tourist originated dollars, we are mistaken. So if we scoff at dollars coming from European or American tourists attracted by our heritage offerings, then we do so at our peril. We want, we need their money and we want it shoved into our Treasury not their “fannies.”
    I honestly do not know who built the Nicholls House. Since it was constructed in the mid seventeenth century then it is highly likely that European craftsmen rather than Africans, did the work. This in no way detracts from its significance. Interestingly enough, this building was owned in the late eighteenth century by a black freedwoman who rented it to a white Barbadian.
    All over the globe, countries are making use of their heritage to better the lives of their citizens. Why should we be any different?
    Russia is rebuilding from scratch, buildings destroyed during the worst excesses of the Communist regime….St Petersburg once again shines, as Leningrad has been relegated to the history books. Cuba spends scarce resources preserving their architectural heritage which dates from Spanish colonial times. China has rebuilt those damaged sections of the Great Wall of China. Neither Ghana or Senegal have seen fit to burn or demolish the castles and other trading entrepots that marked the slave trade.
    Let us debate by all means but let us not throw out the baby with the bath water.


  18. “…burn Islandgal and Carl Hudson, all the Guardians of White Heritage and their lackeys.”

    Man I never said that. But I am guilty of saying “… we should care for animals, including the Wild Coyotes, Duppy Lizards, Johns, Fat Arss’s and Hoods,Duppy Lizards, Johns, Bournes and Hoods.”

    Secondly I do not differentiate on degrees of Whiteness. Purity is not my thing. Nope, no quadroons or mulattoes here, these are White people words. I prefer it simple … White and non-White, or Black and non-Black. Sorry Watson but you be White, like it or not. Your experience with the “Separate and Unequal” nature of the Barbados heritage has now been modified to “Separate but Equal” and I am to sit here and not continue or at least try to be a “master agent provocateur”…?

    Thirdly for arguments sake Russia’s move to “relegate Leningrad to the history books” is committing the exact same wrong as per your sensitivities. Why should the Czars buildings and names be anymore relevant than the Communists? Surely they were more brutal and unforgiving in their time.

    And finally where are the stats to support the arguments that tourists come here to see the Lord Nelson statue and the rest of it? At least I referred to their fannies as pretty, give me some credit for that.


  19. To Nia and BAFBFP:
    What the proponents of this “cultural thing” and that includes Karl Watson do not understand is that when you take the possibility of earning foreign exchange or any other change out of the equation, then BAFBFP has a point it would be better to burn it down, for these edifices do not worth any thing to the majority oppressed people of Barbados. I am all for the “change”; do not tell me any thing about cultural. As Techie would agree it would take too oil to swallow that pill which include the bruising brutality the slavery was made of.


  20. BAFBFP aka Big Ass Fat Black Foolish Parasite (I hesitate to refer to “it” as a person). Your problem Parasite is the fact that each morning when you crawl out of your hole and catch sight of your reflection in some cesspool you are reminded that you were hatched out black.


  21. It is unfortunate when issues like this one has to be discussed majority discussion always boils over stoked by racial commentary. The good thing if it can be termed such is that we need to continue to discuss these matters and expose the latent feelings which exist. Once exposed maybe we can work our way to a meeting of the minds.


  22. To Duppy Lizard:
    I do not see how this post helps the situation. BAFBFP has a right to a position even it jars yours sensitive nature!


  23. @ David and lemuel – Yes I agree that what I wrote does not help the discussion. However, the blogger who writes under the name of BAFBFP also does not help the discussion. ALL of his submissions are filled with hatred and animosity. Why does he have the right to a position and not me? Your criticisms of what I wrote is therefore biased.


  24. @BAFBFP – “Man I never said that.”. Really….
    BAFBFP | January 11, 2012 at 11:41 PM |
    I say burn Islandgal and Carl Hudson, all the Guardians of White Heritage and their lackeys …


  25. @Duppy Lizard

    Maybe you missed a recent comment to BAFBFP where he was urged to use his vast intellect to add more value to a another discussion. This comment is not to ‘show up’ BAFBFP but simply to clarify.


  26. @Duppy Lizard

    Maybe you missed a recent comment to BAFBFP where he was urged to use his vast intellect to add more value to a another discussion. This comment is not to ‘show up’ BAFBFP but simply to clarify your erroneous position.


  27. Is it only me ?…..

    Do you others see an emerging pattern on BU as soon as race talks come up?

    Take a look at the ‘offended’ posters and note their handles…..BFP just love to come across to this side when the race issues come up…seems that agenda is still at work but this is Barbados and even those who come and wax philosophically, still ring hollow……because we black Bajans see it and live it every day and no amount of sugar coating will ever change that.
    Rather than being so surprised and offended at BAFBFP’s comments, ask yourself, what have you done to change the situation.


  28. @ Anon2

    Shite you right. I did say that. But of course in response to Islandgirl who offered to burn me first … Now come on ..

    @ David

    Man you complement me with this talk about vast intellect, so I urge you to up your game if you must are to be useful here, with respect, since I sense a bias on your part.

    @ Duppy Gizzard

    Didn’t take much to attract your sorry ass back to the fold nah ..


  29. And by the way Guppy you better hope that Negroman don’ get wif of this discussion or you will definitely see hatred and animosity and probably for good reason.

    Techie

    You spending too much time cross the other side. I see that you recognize some of these objectionable people commenting here. BFP is just another acronym for ad homonym


  30. Actually BAFBFP….I haven’t been on that site for quite some time but I recognise the handles of a few of the instigators from my time there.
    I too was banned and accused of threatening Adrian Loveridge and his family. This was because I challenged BFP on the Great Money Laundering Expose they had promised for months and failed (to this day) to deliver.
    Up to this day, BFP can not show the IP address or proof. AL knows me personally and stood there while they said all this and said nothing so as far as I am concerned ‘de watchman as guilty as the thief’.

    Be that as it may, there has always been a concerted effort by these ‘operatives’ to fuel any racial discussions on BU, to then highlight selected quotes, which are then used to paint a completely different picture of what BU really is.
    It’s hard to lose ‘the only game in town’ status. 😉


  31. ac | January 12, 2012 at 9:43 PM |
    @Colonel Buggy

    Now don’t go there Colonel you are getting personnel. Under what circumstances a person does what in a family relation has no place in this discussion.
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    Can’t the same be said for our African cousins ,who according to one blogger, sold our black arses to the white man?


  32. Techie

    You are the victim of the Callous Arrogance that characterizes the White bajan male to this day … and all of this Heritage talk is a by product of it. The good Doctor is very innocent of course. He is like any other academic doing what he sees as the “right thing”. But of course as is with so many things in life, what is good for the goose in never really good for the gander, not even if goose and gander need lil’ tourist dollars. Academics will continue to be academics, but beyond the books and research there still are very real people out here who will disagree.

    If I may borrow the phrase, let the blasted buildings “be relegate to the history books” … with photographs of course!

    You see me, I love a good fight …!


  33. Sugar is on the way out. The once thriving industries which we had in the 60’s , 70’s and 80’s have mostly disappeared to other countries with lower labour charges,leaving our industrial estates as bare as Mother Hubbard’s larder. Tourism is our main wage earner, the Sand and Sea is no longer a prime attraction, these can be had in other parts of the world, further afield ,and at a lower cost. What else have we got to offer visitors, beside heritage tourism,and comparable with what they may have at home or what they have seen in other countries during their travel. No one wants to come here and visit an old broken down rat infested building . I happened to be in Queens Park recently,and saw a couple of visitors perusing the park, they were in and out in less than 10 minutes. The sight of vagrants and Parros sleeping on card board and rags under the patio of the historic Queens Park House, once the home of the General Officer Commanding the West India Regiment, was more than enough to turn one off, visitor or local alike. Is this what we want our old buildings to be used for and look like ? Rundown ramshackled , smelly and pissy .
    Kill Heritage Tourism,and we are killing the golden duck. But no doubt those who are so vibrantly opposed to this venture , which will bring in vital revenue, will give us suggestion on alternatives.


  34. Colonel….Queens Park is only a name…this so called park lacks plants, lacks proper layout and design and lacks character. It is one bare piece of shoite. The NCC is a bare joke and knows very little of garden design and plants. This is the only city park and should be a photographer’s delight. Most parks in other islands boasts of exotic flowers and plants, historic character and delightful ambiance. Queens Park reminds me of a barren piece of land with a few struggling plants. This park needs redesigning to make it a place of serenity in the city. The name needs to be changed because it is an insult to the Queen to have a park looking like this.


  35. Islandgirl. It IS a photographer’s delight…….at least on Christmas morning when every man and womanjack parade and show off their latest threads, if only the cameras could capture some of the decay , disarray ,neglect and garbage in the background ,maybe someone would sit up and take heed. But it appears as if this is the type of environment that we now prefer.
    Not an hour ago I was parked in a busy car park on the South Coast, and was not really surprised to see quite a few drivers pull up in the middle of the well lit car park, got out and in full view of others, began pissing all over the place. Of course this is also part of our heritage.


  36. Colonel…LOLL you are right , I forgot about the Christmas morn parade. Things have really gone to the dogs. I will excuse a dog for urinating in public BUT a MAN NO! It seems people have to get used to the L”AIR DE PISS around this island. Look at what this once clean and pretty island has become! A cesspool! We have NO PRIDE! They also need to rename the flower Pride of Barbados to Piss off Barbados. I wonder how many officials see this decay?


  37. All this just because you could NOT convince me that Castro and his Cuba have failed miserably compared with the smaller and less resource rich Lee’s Singapore
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    A quick footnote to this Singapore started to destroy its heritage some 3 decades ago but soon realised its mistakes as the adverse effect on its tourist trade became apparent. People can see shopping malls anywhere in the world. It reversed its policy and heritage buildings are restored and preserved.


  38. The idea is to keep the people ignorant. Not just of their history and culture, but of the world in general. Isn’t that the way our educational system is now set up? When the people are ignorant, they are easy to subdue and rule. This is the way of the Taliban – and Mugabe.


  39. Peltdownman

    Actually you are wrong. This is the way of the Government of the United States of America, the financiers or its political parties and the conglomerate media houses that facilitate its interests. Wake up, pussy ..!

    Wunna White people get me tired … fah real!


  40. Islandgirl. At least the dog makes an effort to place its “mannie” out of sight , between one side of its body ,and a lampost / car wheel / tree / hydrant etc.


  41. @Isln gal

    FLEE …..what you doing in hay

    where ur dog ?


  42. @Keith Howard……someone call you? My dogs are fine they are sleeping at the moment what about yours? You have a wormy dog? Tek some salts a good dose please!


  43. Yardbroom | January 12, 2012 at 5:04 PM |

    Almost all discussions in Barbados appear to lead to White vs Black, when there is no need. The downside to this is when there is an issue of race with serious implications, it becomes trivial because of the expected glibness.

    Brillant piece Yardbroom and couldn’t agree more when you said “The lesson for us is to learn from what has happened, and to assist when and where we can. We should not forget the past but not be weighed down by it, to an extent that it prevents our forward movement. We can “never” erase History but we owe it to those who have suffered to see issues in a clear light….and have the clearness of mind to acknowledge the contributions they made, because “we know” the circumstances of their contributions.”

    Too many of us carry this on our shoulders like a cinder block.


  44. @BAFBFP

    Pure RACIST with total lack of understnding of how the global world operates. Individuals like you are why 95% of the independant colonial BLACK nations have FAILED. The sucsseful colonial countries are the ones that did not want independance but maintained close ties to thier mother countries. The Black race is not alone in this belief of self rule, several white nations have also FAILED by wanting to be independant but not anaylising the full consequences of that decision.


  45. Colonel….”Islandgirl. At least the dog makes an effort to place its “mannie” out of sight”

    Colonel don’t you understand the “every woman (white) wants a BIG BLACK Dick” mentality? So they must show it off at every turn? Look at how some of these DAWGS they keep feeling up their crotches in public?

    Perhaps Keith is a member of this group! LMAO


  46. Here is the Nation editorial catching up with social media on this issue.

    http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/a-tragedy-on-the-rooftop


  47. @BAFBFP
    Actually you are wrong. This is the way of the Government of the United States of America, the financiers or its political parties and the conglomerate media houses that facilitate its interests. Wake up, pussy ..!

    Wunna White people get me tired … fah real!
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    Wuhloss Baffy! Your slip is showing fuh real! Please, stay in your little mental hole and believe that the whole world is against you, led of course, by the Great Satan, the United States. If thinking that makes you feel better, go for it PUSSY!!


  48. For godsakes can someone says who owns this building?


  49. David | January 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM |
    For godsakes can someone says who owns this building?
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    A. Ifill & BAFBFP (Barbados) Ltd

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