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Submitted by the People’s Democratic Congress (PDC)

Mark Adamson, leader of the PDC demonstrating outside Barbados Light & Power against high electricity charges by Barbados Light & Power

The current political economic depression in Barbados, and the depth and duration of it, ought NOT to have come as a surprise to the broad masses and middle classes of people of this country.

As that, a few years before the coming about of this depression, the PDC was warning the public of Barbados that if certain political financial systems remain in existence in this country in the long term, that they were going to substantially cause very staggering and profound amounts of decay and decline in the production and exchange structures in the country.

Furthermore, too, then, the PDC warned the public of Barbados that certain actions that were  from time to time being taken by the so-called leaders of the national tripartite social arrangement (esp. those of BLP/DLP Governmental leaders), to disgracefully expand these very systems, such as TAXATION; INTEREST RATES; REPAYABLE INSTITUTIONAL PRODUCTIVE  LOANS; IMPORTATION OF THE COST OF GOODS AND SERVICES FROM OVERSEAS; EXCHANGE RATES PARITIES; WORK; etc. (which invariably are some of the same fundamental causes of the massive production and exchange decline that is now being witnessed by many people in Barbados), were going to mean the guaranteeing of political economic recession soon after political economic recession, for Barbados.

Also, during the first year of our party’s existence in the said 2005/2006 period, we reinforced in the minds of the said broad masses and middle classes of people, the notion that if the systems and other relevant ones were not REMOVED TOTALLY once and for all from the the political material financial landscape of Barbados, and were NOT at the same time replaced with modern viable systems, how their continuation would make sure that Barbados would become so much vulnerable to external shocks and turbulences, that the country would certainly accelerate tremendously towards becoming a second rate Third World country in the next 10-15 years (from the mid 2000s) – with all the attendant chronic social illnesses for many to see.

The truth is that whether or not our warnings were taken heed of by many persons in Barbados, as it stands now, Barbados has been in a severe state of political economic crisis since the last part of 2007, with many businesses closing down, many thousands of people being laid off, and there being significant declines in national output, there being substantial increases in the cost of living and doing business in the country, with also crime going up, and increasing hopelessness abounding.

But, as can be gleaned from economic textbooks and from the teaching and practicing of economics (and Western Financial subjects) in Barbados, theories of TAXATION, INTEREST RATES, etc., have long been seen by many people to be integral parts of this dark and discredited discipline called economics.

Make no doubt about it most (80%) of the concepts, theories and principles that are found within the economics discipline are totally obsolete and backward and are antithetical and irrelevant to 21st century national development for Barbados.

So, having studied much economics ourselves, the point must be hammered home that with these above mentioned systems and other ones being responsible for the massive production and exchange decay and decline (soon substantial ruin) in the country, and the consequent worsening social environment, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever continuing to teach and practice political economics any where any time in Barbados – given that the above mentioned systems and the relevant unmentioned others, in theory and practice, are at the core of the economics discipline  in Barbados and elsewhere.

That is why the  PDC has been letting the broad masses and middle classes of this country know of the absolute need for them to wholly and systematically dispense with most of the concepts, theories and principles making up this very dismal approach called economics.

And that is why, too, we have been asking some individuals from within these said categories of people to take the lead in coming up with a new and relevant people centered discipline; a set of new and rigorous  tools of analysis; and a body of fresh and exciting methods, theories and principles, that, et al, would definitely aim to describe and explain multi-farious aspects of the productive, material and income affairs of this and other countries, and that would positively seek to describe and explain countless relationships that would exist between numerous political, social, production, commercial and income related variables.

Indeed, a proper understanding of the history of the emergence of the discipline of economics in the 18th century in Europe and its later development across other parts of the world, is also very necessary in any fundamental understanding as to why the ordinary people in Barbados must evolve a new dynamic and scientific discipline, as a means of not only properly projecting and at the same time substantially reflecting the productive material and financial circumstances of the country, but also as a means of signifying a substantial thrust towards providing greater intellectual political social and financial growth and development.

For, any overwhelming breaking away from the clutches of colonialism, not only means the quest for political independence for a previously colonized country; for a country’s own final courts, but also the doing away with things like economics which are loaded with imperialist oligarchic biases and prejudices.

Since, it is economists and their cohorts (in the political, business, legal, banking and other relevant fields), that have been failing to recognize that it is economics  (as well as its political underpinning and structures) – out of all the other disciplines – that has been bringing about the greatest possible harm, destruction and degradation of the national/sub-national affairs of Barbados, it must therefore be the duty of the most keen and knowledgeable practitioners of the other social studies and other disciplines in this fair land to take the lead in creating alternatives to economics teachings and practices in Barbados, and to at the same time continue the process of steadfastly pulling the country out of the big giant mess that it has been put in by certain political people in it.

For, the country cannot now afford to be seen to be committing more of the same egregious blunders as in times gone by when persons like Dr. Frank Alleyne, the late Wendell McClean, Owen Arthur, and other ruled dominated public policy making in this country in the 80s and 90s – and when things political economic now, such as the alarmingly high government debt, deficit financing, etc. are partly as a result of advice and information given to government and private sector officials by them.

Therefore, Owen Arthur, Clyde Mascoll, Anthony Wood, Dr. Brian Francis and others must not appear ever again to be catapulted into the limelight of current events, esp. by the traditional media, when in the country’s search for solutions to its material and financial problems, it is seen that NOT one of them (as economists) in Barbados has brought forward any solutions to the myriad political economic and financial problems we in Barbados are faced with at this stage.

In closing, we would like to ask BU readers/visitors the question: How could Arthur and Mascoll have been reported in recent, different editions of the Nation Newspaper (but in different contexts) as bemoaning the disastrous effects that – as they say- the printing of money (government borrowing from the Central Bank ) can have on the performance of the so-called Barbados economy? when borrowing of money/value by all kinds of entities from other kinds of entities is a common place thing in this country?

Whereas Arthur reportedly termed such action by the Central Bank, as the last desperate step before going to the IMF, if the history of Barbados was correct, Mascoll reportedly stated that this action in the context of the Caribbean economy, was the fastest and deadliest way to undermine stability in a country like Barbados.

However, both these economists must be told that while it is true that such printing of money at very alarming levels can lead to disastrous consequences for the so-called Barbados economy (NOT through any really false and fictitious economic concept of building up inflationary pressures in the economy, BUT really through the cost of use of money going up as a direct result of that type of Central Bank action and other effects) it is absolute rubbish to suggest that money/value when added to other amounts of money/value can anyhow devalue the existing value of the existing money pool in a country like Barbados. What old, archaic economic thinking!!!

The truth is that anytime a  PDC Government comes into existence in the future in this country, the government will have the right to borrow up to 35-40% of the then current GDP, in any one given fiscal year, from the core financial system without having to repay such, such within the context of the implementation of a National Institutional Non-Repayable Productive Loan Scheme.


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  1. @PDC

    Why did you decide to march against the BL&P?

    Would it not have made more sense to demonstrate against the FTC?


  2. david i have asked trained economist to nenlighten me as to whether the majority of the cost on my light bill goes to a government agency and not the light and power.don’t any of the economic experts on the blog have an answer to this question?


  3. @balance

    A visit to BL&P’s website gives information on how the company bills to consumers.

    It is no secret.


  4. @balance

    Yes the majority currently goes the bntcl/bnoc. This was discussed already on other blogs.

  5. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    “Yes the majority currently goes the bntcl/bnoc.”

    Since you seem to be so informed please explain the cause of the sudden increase in BL&P annual profits from around $ 28 million to possibly in excess of $ 50 million without a significant/ commensurate increase in kilowatt demand. This increase (estimated to be in excess of 70%) seems rather high in the light of the FTC’s ruling.
    If my analysis is way off the mark, please provide a more informed and realistic analysis.


  6. remember that the rate increase granted to bl&p took in effect from last year around march. This rate increases will cause the normal base cost of you bill to grown due to increase sought by bl&p. The fuel cost remain the majority and paid to bntcl/bnoc. http://www.blpc.com.bb/photos/BL&P%20-bill%20charges%20050711-r.jpg Now to let look at the balance sheet. http://www.blpc.com.bb/photos/BLP%20REPORT.pdf total profit was 46.1 million compare to 27.9 million. On page 22 we see a gain on 10 million from the the sale of caribbean fiber holding to other parties. so let take that away we get 36.1million in profit . So now we look at total sale hour we see a 1% growth now much at all. then we look at breakdown in revenue and expense on page 66. revenue increase by 22% while expense have been increase 21%. Majority of revenue increase can be attribute to secondary and domestic raising 24% both. on the expense side we see fuel gone up by 30%. Actually profit percentage are 9.5% and 8.4% respectivly. This is well within the increase allowed in the ftc that maximum profit should be around 10%. The issue here is the profit rose in accordance to the revenue amount since that increase then profit would increase as well. it is not bl&p taking a much large percentage of the bill for their profit great than amount allowed by the ftc


  7. @anthony: “remember that the rate increase granted to bl&p took in effect from last year around march. This rate increases will cause the normal base cost of you bill to grown due to increase sought by bl&p. The fuel cost remain the majority and paid to bntcl/bnoc.

    Your entire post immediately above is accurate, but I want to make one clarification…

    The “rate design” approved by the FTC was a one-off change in rates which was designed to allow BL&P to make a 10% rate of return on “rate base”. The “rate base” is the investment of equipment used in the Generation, Transmission and Distribution of electricity.

    The specific point I want to ensure is clear is BL&P are not allowed to further increase the rates just because they’re not actually achieving the allowed 10%.


  8. Well that true Christopher until the next application for increase.

  9. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ anthony:
    What do you mean by the following statement?
    “Majority of revenue increase can be attribute to secondary and domestic raising 24% both. on the expense side we see fuel gone up by 30%”

    We were of the view, based on your strident (and on the face of it, persuasive) argument, that the cost of fuel used by BL&P in the generation of electricity is not treated as an operating expense but as a direct pass through to consumers in the form of the fuel adjustment provision seen on bills. The net effect on profitability should therefore be zero when compared to previous periods. Or is this a different type of fuel, e.g. diesel used in the vehicles ($ 307,803,000 is a lot of diesel to put in vehicles).

    Do you have access to the most recent provisional or interim summary financials so we can compare the first 6 months of this year to the same period last year, of course making provision or adjustments for any unusual and extraordinary items?


  10. @anthony: “Well that true Christopher until the next application for increase.

    Oh, absolutely.

    But the second sentence of your above could have been interpreted such that BL&P could continue to increase rates until they reach the allowed 10%.


  11. @MTA: “The net effect on profitability should therefore be zero when compared to previous periods.

    Correct. The cost of all fuel *used for generation* is passed through to the consumer (via the Fuel Clause Adjustment) with no profit going to the company.

    All fuel used in vehicles is an expense.


  12. those increase are larger than the 22% overall increase in revenue. Fuel accounted for the majority of the 21% increase. For financial statement they must be written in as they pass thru the company. 306 million is diesel,jet a1 and bunker c. and what ever else they may use. if you remove the 306 million from the revenue and expense you get the similar ratios.but still must be include in the company financial statements. this doesn’t effect profitability but it part of the company revenue numbers. increases in reveune can be mostly attributed to in crease in the fca

  13. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ anthony;
    From my reference to the fuel not having effect on net profitability should indicate to you that if the fuel cost is included in the revenue collected from consumers then sound book-keeping principles dictate that the same fuel would have to appear as part of the business cost and reported in the G L, either in the form of purchases or operating expense (Cost).

    What we consumers want to know is if the net profit is in line with the 10% plus return on the company’s investment in generating capacity. If that can be shown without any massaging of numbers then we consumers can have no issue with the company but should question the FTC’s method and decision on the calculation of the ROI.

    I await the financials for the period ended December 31, 2011. A period in which the effects of the fuel adjustment and the approved ROI will be reflected.

  14. St George's Dragon Avatar
    St George’s Dragon

    A couple of thoughts.
    1. Its interesting to see that not a single post has commented on anything the PDC article covered. Is that because people don’t understand it, don’t agree with it or because its nonsense?
    2. There is a general appreciation across Barbados that Government borrowing is too high and that this is affecting the rates of interest charged on those loans and the Government’s ability to borrow.
    If it is the PDCs stated position that they will borrow 35 – 40% of GDP in any year without having to repay it, please tell us who you are going to borrow that from bearing in mind that the convential lenders are the ones saying borrowing is too high now.
    Also, bearing in mind that your policy is to abolish taxes, please tell us what the difference is between a tax of 35% (unacceptable to the PDC) and an enforced borrowing which will not be repaid (stated policy of the PDC)? And don’t tell me that by calling it a “Productive loan” that makes it different.


  15. http://www.ftc.gov.bb/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=221&Itemid=26

    Q: What is the Commission’s view on the Company’s reported profit?

    A: Based on the Company’s financial statements for the year ended December 31, 2010, the rate base was approximately $525 million and the operating income was approximately $42 million so the Company realised a rate of return on rate base of about 8%. This figure means that the rate of return on rate base is less than the 10% which was approved by the Commission.


  16. millertheanunnaki

    What we consumers want to know is if the net profit is in line with the 10% plus return on the company’s investment in generating capacity.

    Didn’t my previous post show that is was it 9.4% now. the additional sale of CFH cause the profit to jump an extra 10 million which would put the figure above 10%

    As for the bookkeeping method you would need better access to the actual auditing sheet then the financial audit report. They would show the break down of each of the section of utility supplies and the fuel cost pass on to bntcl/bnoc for it.

  17. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ anthony:
    You seem to have more than an superficial appreciation for the technicalities and calculations associated with the BL&P financial representations and accounting figures. For a better understanding of this most relevant and current issue so crucial to consumers and the local economy, please answer the following questions:

    What is the net profit attributable solely to the electricity generation segment of the business for the most recent financial period to which you have access? December 31, 2010 or later?
    What is the book value (gross and net) of the assets (investment) attributable to the electricity generation segment of the business at the beginning and end of the same accounting period?

    This basic info could assist the layman like myself in getting a clearer understanding of the company’s ROI (rate of return).

    By the way, do you know if the proceeds from the sale of the CFH investment were repatriated?


  18. @millertheanunnaki

    Can you shed any light on how the removal of government guaranteeing the sovereign risk associated with BL&P borrowing forex loans is factored in the cost of generating electricity post FTC decision to deliver a return of 10+% on rate-base?

  19. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David;
    Your man” anthony” is in a better position to provide a more informed and technically sound answer than an ordinary consumer like me.
    However, my take on it is that the higher risk associated with overseas (forex) loans (no sovereign guarantee) would be reflected in a higher borrowing cost which would therefore flow through to a higher Cost of Capital. This higher estimate of the cost of capital would be factored into the FTC’s decision in setting the rate of return.

    The question to be posed is this: Is BL&P going to borrow to expand and upgrade the plant as promised to the FTC and consumers in Barbados. If it does not borrow and expand then they will be getting a portion of profit they have not earned.

    I (a layman) might be way off so “anthony” can put me on the right track.


  20. @millertheanunnaki

    Thanks fro your layman response.

    To take another stab at giving a layman’s response would you say then that if the BL&P has to borrow then this can be considered a downside if the government is not obligated to giver a sovereign guarantee?

  21. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David:
    The more sovereign guarantees (government backings) issued by Government the more exposure it runs of having its credit rating downgraded. Hence the move away from backing BL&P loans which it is felt it can stand on its own especially in the light of its new parent’s financial status. Both the government and the FTC were aware of Emera’s intention to effectively control the local operation but it had to prepare itself like a bride for the set date. A guaranteed rate of return commensurate with Emera’s expectations was the wedding ring.
    The higher risk associated with borrowing in the open market (even with Emera’s parental association) would be reflected in a higher borrowing premium. Is it a downside? Yes! But that is the cost of doing business in a perceived risky (and growing) market such as Barbados. If Bajans want electricity this is what it will cost and on our (Emera’s) terms. Don’t expect to see any government sponsored large scale move away from reliance on BL&P as a generator of electricity if these higher cost loans are taken out to “expand and improve’ the plant.


  22. @millertheanunnaki

    Both the government and the FTC were aware of Emera’s intention to effectively control the local operation but it had to prepare itself like a bride for the set date. A guaranteed rate of return commensurate with Emera’s expectations was the wedding ring.

    Should this comment be taken as an indictment on the FTC?

    It is a statement which suggests a lack of integrity from the FTC Commissioners.

  23. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David:
    The FTC acted honourably and innocently in light of the information presented, the known facts and prevailing economic circumstances.
    No aspersions are being cast on anyone’s integrity here!
    Your mind be working a bit overtime imputing meaning and motives where none is meant.

    A populace gets the government it deserves which includes its executing agencies!


  24. @millertheanunnaki

    gross income before taxation from generation 42 million according to dec 2010 report page 22. there are finance charges and taxation to this income of which thet values would give me the net profit guess those would leave it an approximate at best since i have no access to the actual numbers, i guess about 38-39 million after tax. a gross assets value is 1.074 billion net asset value is 583 million page 46. the CFH sale cash would have been kept by light and power holdings. Now while they reported 46 million in profit for year including the cfh sale. the shareholder are getting about 6.9 million in dividends on page 23
    exclude is another 2.6 million that was finial dividend after year close. rest is reinvested in the company. they have liquidity of about 121 million in cash or short term investments

    @david
    Can you shed any light on how the removal of government guaranteeing the sovereign risk associated with BL&P borrowing forex loans is factored in the cost of generating electricity post FTC decision to deliver a return of 10+% on rate-base?

    well no government guarantee can mean higher loan rates.the actually cost of the loan isn’t factor into the capital assets only the original gross value of said assets and it depreciation over it lifetime Now the rates isn’t per say factored directly in in the generating electricity cost it fall under finance charge which is a capital expense. this would effect the net profit before taxation. if they pay more then then less profit. less profit less taxes. on the flip side bl&p can then approach the ftc for increase in the base rate if this is eating too much into profits to achieve the rate of return agreed on. .

    @millertheanunnaki

    The question to be posed is this: Is BL&P going to borrow to expand and upgrade the plant as promised to the FTC and consumers in Barbados.

    From my understand some of the wind turbines will be built by other companies and light of power will lease them . Some light and power will build itself. when they will get started is the question.I heard of no solar plan,tidal per say. I think the proposed natural gas pipeline is probably a waste. I think they should invest in nevis geothermal plant and use high voltage dc lines. also think the other volcanic island should invest in geothermal power. Currently i heard of no plans for any slow speed diesel or bunker c generators. this would reduce need for gas turbines. The new sugar plant with ethanol and electrical generation could prove useful . i can see about 10-20 mw which would be enough to keep us of gas turbine for awhile.is there enough bugasse to keep it running year long is the question. a methane power plant from extraction for the dump could produce up to 10 mw of power. also reducing the need for the gas turbines.


  25. @anthony

    Can you shed any light on how the removal of government guaranteeing the sovereign risk associated with BL&P borrowing forex loans is factored in the cost of generating electricity post FTC decision to deliver a return of 10+% on rate-base?

    Can we say the approval by the FTC to give a return of 10%+ on rate base possible impact on consumer would have been factored?

  26. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ anthony:

    What does the BL&P intend to do with its massive retained earnings?
    I will get back to you with further queries on your above post but I am busy right now.


  27. @millertheanunnaki

    remember the emera caribbean agree to sell it stake of 19.1% of LUCELEC for US $25.8 million. I assuming they will be paid out in cash from the retained earning. These retained earning have the ability to of l&ph to gobble up large amounts of shares from the other caribbean power companies without need to finance thru loans or Emera itself. This allows emera to consolidate and grow it caribbean holding with lp&h who are cash rich. also allow for some liquidity extraction of bl&p if share are bought from emera caribbean if share have increased in price.

    @david

    the max rate of return is 10%. Now the base rate by definition will always continue to be reduce due to deprecation of assets. only way to increase base rate would be to buy and install new assets. How bl&p leasing electricity from a third party would be calculated into the base rate is interesting question to find out.

    What do mean by factored in? Like the above post the interest rate are not include in asset price just it current value. Asset finance would come out from it operating income before taxation due it being a capital expense.the financing is never worked into the base rate. increase financing may cause bl&p to ask for increase in base rate to ensure it growth in profitability but not in rate of return percentage of the base. or they may ask for different calculation as to how the base rate is formed.


  28. current figures as according the central banks online database. total expenses for Q3 is not stated as yet online will update when they become available. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aseqbfk-363sdDdPUWdvMjFWdjltZEhlbG1lUDZSOUE

  29. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    DAVID

    “BLP Conference streaming HERE”

    No one is interested except you.
    That should have been cancelled, it is just a useless exercise.

  30. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    BLP conference.

    Held in Barbados and not Australia. However it has only nuisance value to the Barbadian Public.

  31. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    BLP Confreence.

    Now here is wasted money.

    The BLP, almost broke, but still spending what precious little money that they have on dog and pony show.

  32. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    DAVID

    I notice that you are going back and deleting my posts.

  33. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ anthony:
    “I assuming they will be paid out in cash from the retained earning. These retained earning have the ability to of l&ph to gobble up large amounts of shares from the other caribbean power companies without need to finance thru loans or Emera itself. This allows emera to consolidate and grow it caribbean holding with lp&h who are cash rich. also allow for some liquidity extraction of bl&p if share are bought from emera caribbean if share have increased in price. ”

    Would you agree the retained profits were primarily generated through the production and sale of electricity to Barbadian consumers? These are profits acquired through previous rates of returns set and awarded by the Regulators (PUB and its successor FTC). Profits retained in a business are usually earmarked for reinvestment to maintain, upgrade or expand the capacity of the business to earn future profits. Since bl&p is cash rich why not use some of its retained earnings to protect future earnings in it core business in Barbados by investing in the electricity generation (alternative energy technology, for instance??). This strategy of investing in other businesses would not be viewed in a strange light if much of the retained profits had been earned by way of overseas investment income. Why should retained profits earned from electricity generation and sale in Barbados be used as a cash cow to finance investment and speculative ventures in other Caribbean businesses before looking after the local milch cow? But then again, bl&p Holdings could declare a dividend equivalent to the cost of the Caribbean investment and pay it to Emera Caribbean Holdings (presumably the largest shareholder in bl&p Barbados Holdings) who would in turn “gobble up” the shares in other Caribbean power companies. But this might require an unusually higher dividend payment to the remaining local shareholders. The CBB might view this exceptionally large dividend payment to the parent as a challenge to their heavily pressured foreign reserves even with the deduction of the withholding tax. This option would meet with more resistance than the alternative investment in shares in other power companies in the Caribbean given the prospect of future foreign investment income being repatriated to Barbados.

    The FTC should keep an eye on any major dilution of net assets through any exceptionally large dividend payout or any large investment -other than in local electricity generation- made by this utility.

    Over to you!

  34. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ CCC”

    “The BLP, almost broke, but still spending what precious little money that they have on dog and pony show.”
    That may be so but it is not taxpayers’ money!

    Barbados almost broke and your party partying like there is no tomorrow using taxpayers’ money for the Punch & Judy Show. The circus might be in town but only until March 31, 2012.

  35. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    millertheanunnaki (May2012)

    “That may be so but it is not taxpayers’ money”

    Dont fool yourself, that IS taxpayers money which they stole and stashed in secret overseas bank accounts and they have brought a little of it home. Otherwise no “conference”. Remember the WHITE BAJANS and Elders of the party are no longer giving them any money.

  36. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ anthony:
    “Asset finance would come out from it operating income before taxation due it being a capital expense.the financing is never worked into the base rate. increase financing may cause bl&p to ask for increase in base rate to ensure it growth in profitability but not in rate of return percentage of the base. or they may ask for different calculation as to how the base rate is formed.”

    Correct me if I am wrong, please!
    Who agrees the rate(s) per kwh shown on the “Energy” rows of the table as outlined in the electricity invoice (not the fuel charge)?
    Presumably, using simple analysis, these charges cover your costs (taxation too) plus the return on investment (net amount attributable to shareholders).
    If these rates are set upfront by the FTC how would they have arrived at their calculations unless reasonably dependable cost estimates are submitted by the bl&p, questioned by the objectors but eventually accepted by the FTC. We know how the actual interest expense / financing costs are treated in the accounts but how are these costs factored in the rates submitted in bl&p application for rates increases applicable to future periods of supply.
    Are the costs of future borrowings for asset acquisitions, say for 2012, factored in the current rates being charged to consumers? How are these incorporated in the calculations? As part of the estimated pool of future operating costs (finance in nature, of course) or as part of the calculation of the capital charge grossed up for tax in arriving at the rate of return?


  37. CAN anyone see that with the amount oF shoite that spews from CCC that he would have to be an ass-hole
    ??? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL !!!

  38. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ CCC:

    March31 is the end of the financial year. From April 01, the IMF manages all expenditures. Like it or lump it.!


  39. I saw some White Bajan homes in St Philip … Jesus H C’rist, I din know we had such opulence ’bout hey …


  40. @millertheanunnaki

    yes it it suppose to be used to purchase future assets. what those assets might end up to be would depend on management. Like i said before i know they are suppose to build some wind turbine but other than that i have no idea of their future assets purchase plan.

    The FTC purview is not concern with actual dividends but profit made in the year. it up to CBB to deal with that.

    for the second post.

    Some future cost be calculate other cannot that is why bl&p from time to time ask for rate increase. actually methods would be by actuary to work out those figure but like many thing are subject to change in the international/local markets. What increase finance cost will do is lower overall profit. as the rate of kwh already has operating income and finance up to apoint built in. After that amount it will then be reduce profit and bl&p would apply to ftc for an increase in the base rate. Now given the eqaution is dervided at 10% of base rate and base rate in terms their assets there is only one way to keep the base rate from continuously dropping. that is the addition of new assets. if they added no assets then over time they will depreciate till the profit goes above 10% at which time we may see refunds to our bills. To slow this down you can change rate of deprecation but then that will affect the tax bill. End result is they must keep adding new assets for the base rate to either increase or remain stable for period of time. The problem is other than wind turbines i have heard of no new asset plans.

    @all

    Just ignore CCC he just craves attention.


  41. BAFBFP yuh went to visit de white chick in her opulent environment ?


  42. Unfortunately nobody in the BU household was able to listen to Minister Sinckler’s press conference which explains our lack of comment.

  43. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ anthony:
    “The FTC purview is not concern with actual dividends but profit made in the year. it up to CBB to deal with that.”

    So if the FTC granted a rate increase which included a return to cover the cost of financing an asset replacement and improvement programme over 5 years and the bl&p failed to institute the asset replacement programme but instead declared large dividends to shareholders shouldn’t this breach of commitment be of interest and concern to the FTC, operative word is FAIR?


  44. No Hants, but I wish I had one. My God I was impressed …

    David

    I heard, both is and the opposition leaders speech. I turned the radio on to hear some music and there was Arthur on a station that I do NOT listen to any more. (How could that be… maybe it was The Invisible hand of providence). So I listened, well not really, I just did not change the station until it was all over. Nothing grabbed me other than the obvious questions led off by Patrick HoyAss and the usual “believe in me and my integrity” type responses from Stinkler.

    The kind of question I would have loved to have asked is “How much did Government spend on International Travel in the past year, and where can we go to find such information on Government expenditure broken down to that level” Responses like” Mr Stuart is the least traveled Prime Minister” and “Since I became Min of Finance I made it clear to seniors that an eagle eye will be kept on unnecessary traveling” does not cut it with me … sorry. Give me numbers please, and measured comparisons. Where is the data?


  45. @anthony

    Going back to the original question posed by BU to you. How does the subsequent movement of share ownership impact the BL&P strategy as proposed by BL&P?

    Is there merit in FTC revisiting the transaction given its role to protect consumers* as well.


  46. @millertheanunnaki

    If that was the case they could be taken to courts. However that isn’t the case now. Fact is bl&p total divend payout was like 6.8 million and year before 6.4 million. this compare to lime dividend of 60 million pay out well you can see the difference.

    @david

    I heard most of both, Owen had some idea they where just general overviews. nothing detail. interesting point is he stated the bntcl/bnoc is over flowing with profits. in the region of 100-120 million for the year 60 -80 million last year. If that is true majority of the so called 180 million debt should have been paid off and we be getting reduce prices at the pump. Sinckler it was repeat of the his reaction to CBB q3 report. Question and answer segment was more interesting. Seem the minister doesn’t know certain facts of certain programs but was casting blame on the bl&p like always. his lack for stating why certain program where not up and running already was laughable at best when you consider people have access to Iadb reports and know certain loan have either been disbersed in full or have been sitting and doing nothing for a year or two.

    @bafbfp

    according to the natio they done 85 flight for jan – sep. Sinckler commented that the figure was untrue but didn’t go into details. just stating he travelled less than was stated. as for cost of travel good luck trying to get that info.

    @david

    you need to state which share ownership. st lucia shares or bl&p shares or cfh ?

    If it is st lucia it is to consolidate of ownership with a nice war chest to buy a good stake in other companies.

    If CFH then it was bl&p getting out of ownership which need injection of capital for cash at hand.

    FTC can’t interfere with either either transaction as both of foreign. they may interfere if it was a local company which control majority of a products market.


  47. my applogies i seem to have really miss heard figures. it was 60 million for this year and 50 million for last. most of the supposed 180 million hole blp made would have been covered. http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/owens-way/


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